The Reel Rejects - DEXTER SEASON 3 Episode 3 & 4 REVIEW!!!

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Starting point is 00:02:06 that's the show no more episodes yeah could literally end up there oh my goodness all right that was intriguing very good stuff guys

Starting point is 00:02:17 well that was episodes three and four as John is loading up our Patreon royal reject questions make sure you guys do all the YouTube stuff

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Starting point is 00:02:47 And also, if you are listening on Apple or Spotify, if you don't mind giving us a five-star rating, we would appreciate that as well. Donald. Andrew Shige. We've got a bunch of questions here. We got a bunch. We got a blow through these today, unfortunately.

Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah, guys, we got to get through these questions a little bit quicker than normal. We got another shoot here, right? Yeah, we got another shoot. We started this one a little bit late, so we're going to get through this a little quicker than normal. So apologies about that. But thank you all for. Yeah, thank you. I'm glad you guys have such an invested interest in asking questions.

Starting point is 00:03:22 This is awesome. So let's get started here. Absolutely. Here we go. Sarah Thompson Hall. thank you for jumping in. Love catching back up with Dexter with both of you. Thank you for joining us. It's been

Starting point is 00:03:33 quite a ride so far. Loving it. At the end of episode four, a lot of characters are left in precarious positions. Do you think there is too much competing drama happening all at once? No, because I think what the show has continued to do from seasons one,

Starting point is 00:03:49 two, and this one, they always do a good job of balancing it out. And, you know, there's other shows and other movies where it's like, wow, this is just like, sensory overload. So I can understand, like, the basis of the question, but I think this show, again, just does such a great job, like really giving every character, like, shining a light on what they're struggling with

Starting point is 00:04:15 or a focus on what they need to do or an arc that they're going through in the season, while also, like, objectively focusing on what the main plot of the season is and, of course, focusing on Dexter itself, so I don't think so. What about you? Yeah, I think, you know, part of the charm is that they're able, especially as of season two, like, ride the line of having a number of things going. And obviously, you have multiple characters who you're following on their own journeys, as well as the shared ensembles.

Starting point is 00:04:41 So thus far, this has not, you know, pierced into the realm of too much yet. I feel like it's, for my taste, enough for Dexter to be grappling with, because obviously he is going to have to balance regular life and home family life that he has, Ozen that he is cultivating alongside, you know, normal police operations alongside all this stuff with, you know, Freebo and Miguel and all of that. So, I mean, it is a lot to have on a plate, but I don't feel like it's a detriment to the season thus far personally. It's a lot, but again, I think it's really nuanced and well-balanced, in my opinion. And, you know, the precariousness is part of the fun. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:05:23 But, yeah, I'm curious to see it's also in the totality of things, you know. If they can stick all these landings and really tie up all these various ends, then I think it'll be well-earned. But I would be curious to hear y'all's thoughts as well. Thank you so much for your question. Moving along. Josh, who do you think is more dangerous, Dexter because of his skill or Miguel,

Starting point is 00:05:46 because of his influence and position of power? And how do you think Harry would feel about Dexter's relationship with Miguel? Would he approve or warn him to keep his distance? I'm thinking Harry would not be thrilled about this. I think this is a loose end and it's just a means through which Dexter could get caught. So I think Harry would

Starting point is 00:06:05 probably recommend caution here. And I think it's a great question of, you know, which is, I think it's a debate of the season. Yeah, like who is more dangerous, you know, someone like Dexter who is out here, you know, taking direct action or somebody yeah, who lives up the

Starting point is 00:06:23 chain who has the power to, you know, see various, accounts of things, see various facts, and then decide, you know, he gets, Miguel gets to be the decider of what the truth becomes ultimately in a lot of situations for a lot of people. Right. So, in a grand sense, I would say that he's got a sinister, a more sinister reach than perhaps Dexter does, but it's a fair debate. Yeah, I agree with you that as much as I love this relationship and it's going to break my, even there is a, you know, you can obviously make the argument that Miguel, like, you his position like nefariously in certain areas obviously like the chicky hines you know just as one point of contention he's putting an innocent man away he completely ignored the witness didn't even do that so i definitely think that harry would for sure as john pointed out would give him caution in that relationship so i would say he's more dangerous in a sense like he's putting innocent people away you know and also dexter is taking out the garbage so i would say from

Starting point is 00:07:27 a physical sense dexter is more dangerous and like he can actually physically hurt people but you know Miguel is more dangerous than that like he's again putting away innocent people and not you know the evil you know tyrants of trash that are harming

Starting point is 00:07:43 society so I would say like I would put Miguel more in the dangerous side absolutely at least yeah systemically speaking of course very intriguing just the same yeah but again I love their relationship I love their their interactions

Starting point is 00:07:59 and there are so many times where Jimmy Smith knows when to ramp up the intensity and when to tone it down because I think it's about to say something like oh wait no he's not going to it like it's a really fascinating relationship I really enjoy a great deal so far and actually perfect segue

Starting point is 00:08:15 Liam Harold how are you guys enjoying the sudden friendship between Miguel and Dexter since he killed his brother by mistake Jimmy Smith is killing it in the season so far Yeah, I love the tension that comes of it. I think Jimmy Smith is a terrific actor, and it's been really fun to watch this wholly other,

Starting point is 00:08:36 you know, a scenario that on its face seems more amenable to Dexter's position than somebody out to, you know, actually expose the real truth. Right. But, yeah, I mean, the whole thing is built on lies and half-trudes and cover-ups. And so, yeah, I love the, I wish the friendship could just be unencumbered by the truth, but I'm very afraid for what will happen to when the truth comes out. That's the thing. I wish it could be too, but exactly.

Starting point is 00:09:02 Their friendship is built on a complete lie, and it's going to be extreme. I mean, we know the truth has to happen, as we alluded to at the end of the, in the review episode two. So it's going to be heartbreaking when we find out, like, again, how nefarious most likely of, you know, whatever Miguel is up to,

Starting point is 00:09:22 but also more heartbreaking that this relationship has to, break up in a horrendous way most likely. I'm going to assume Dexter's going to have to do something to him, but yeah, again, I really enjoy this friendship. What a smart way for the writers to have us go, because each season two, we've had, like, usually the

Starting point is 00:09:40 big bed of the season, has some kind of a close relationship with Dexter. You had Viney in season one. You had Lyleland? Yeah, we've had Lyleon in season two, and then, I said the name right, right? It's been a while since you watch. And then you also, you had

Starting point is 00:09:55 now Miguel in season three. So I think they always find these fascinating angles to have the villain of the season interacting with Dexter. Yeah, well, and he's not, you know, we'll see if he's even an antagonist. Well, I mean, I have to imagine, yeah, the tides of favor are going to turn

Starting point is 00:10:15 when their motivations are no longer fully compatible, which I imagine has to happen. Yeah, and again, as you were alluding to, just really quick, the truth that at Dexter took out his brother, even if it was self-defense, doesn't matter. Again, the betrayal he's going to feel in that,

Starting point is 00:10:33 and that they were so close with each other, it's not going to be pretty. Yeah. All right. Andrew Lackson, no real question. Just saying hi. Thank you so much. Thank you, Andrew. Hope you're enjoying continually. All right, Jason Inglis, hi, Rejects. I would love to know if you think, and thank you for chiming in. If you think that Dexter is really capable of emotional intimacy with

Starting point is 00:10:55 Rita, or if he still is purely invested in their relationship from the utility it provides in maintaining his cover. Love the content. Yeah, I feel like this is a question that we'll check in with periodically, but I think, as I've stated many times, that the debate of whether or not there is somebody in here, whether or not he does have actual honest to goodness feelings or not is an interesting one, and it's fascinating to watch a guy who, yeah, understands what things are supposed to look can feel like but doesn't actually know the authentic

Starting point is 00:11:26 feel of those things. But I do believe him when he commits to the idea that reading the kids keep him human and bring out the best in him and are key to his both survival and to his, you know, thriving as a human. Absolutely. I think it's a bit of both

Starting point is 00:11:43 but also too I think like he's got social awkwardness that we know of and obviously he had the traumatic upbringing and a traumatic thing that happened to him in his life but I think also too like People with social awkwardness, or at least, like, in my case, too, like, we learn and adapt to things, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:12:01 So, like, when there's a situation that, you know, might go over our head initially, like, if we really care about something, we are adaptable to those situations if it really means something. And Rita and the kids mean a lot to him, and he's being adaptable. Then I think, like, in an authentic way, so. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, Reject Nation. You know it doesn't belong in your epic summer moving into fall plans? getting burned by your old wireless bill while you're planning barbecues beach days and you know long weekends

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Starting point is 00:13:52 details thank you mint mobile for preserving quality but saving us money appreciate your uh thank you appreciate you jason all right we got a few from terra so i'm gonna read them all together thank you so much terra um so we start out here uh hi john and andrew i look forward to these reactions so much and we look forward to hearing you what are your thoughts on miguel prado knowing what dexter did to freebo and uh miguel giving dexter his shirt as a show of trust very uneasy about that and i mean the shirt is good but i feel like we we said it in real time i feel like that's going it has to come back at some point you know towards the end if not but yeah and i feel like too something's going to happen i mean we've already we're seeing the

Starting point is 00:14:36 decline in the relationship between ramon and miguel as well yeah you know and dexter's already kind of twisted that or uh you know up of someone that he can't trust so i'm i'm very anxious to see where where that all goes. I love that this show just really hinges on whenever we leave off on an episode, like, I can't wait to see what's next, but I don't know what's going to happen. I think that's really good signs of writing

Starting point is 00:15:00 when stuff is not predictable. That's, again, pet peeve in mind. I hate predictability. And it's hard. Everything has been written under the sun at this point. You know what I mean? So it's very hard to be unpredictable, and the show really excels at that.

Starting point is 00:15:13 Absolutely. Tara goes on to say, surprise, Father Mucker. Just get a clap in there so that I can pop up. How much do you miss Dokes? It's just not the same with the new guy, Quinn. I mean, I definitely miss his presence. Eric King was terrific, and I'm still mourning his passing.

Starting point is 00:15:30 It still feels a little unreal that he's gone now. And, yeah, seeing him in the recap, I was like, I wish we could get him in flashback for some. I'm with you, John and Tara, and everyone else who is a Dokes fan. It's so funny because in episode one, I thought, season one, episode one, I really thought I was going to hate his guts. And then as we got to know the character more, I loved him more and more and more. And I'm missing him so much right now. I hope there's going to be some way we can insert, whether it's flashbacks or whatever. I just

Starting point is 00:16:00 really missing. And again, this also, like, the character that we've now inserted in his place, Joseph Quinn, Eddie Munson or Johnny Storm, whatever his name is, I'm just curious. like what is going on with this full ia thing and like this guy is taking credit so i'm fascinated to see where this all goes but so far and it's only four episodes so it's hard to judge like because dokes we pretty much emotionally so invested in his character throughout two seasons but he definitely does not fill the void that we feel that we felt for dokes but again not fair to judge that in four episodes yeah and then finally i mean yeah i'm interested to see what happens with that guy but uh you It's an interesting plot line, definitely no substitute for doggs, but I'm interested in what it is, and I think the guy's doing a good job.

Starting point is 00:16:49 And then Tara goes on to say final comment here. I believe Emma asked you about Rita being pregnant, but do you think Dexter's concerns about having a child and the thought of the child turning out like him or valid concerns? He killed the guy who was taking pictures of Aster. What do you think of him breaking the code in order to protect Aster? I'm totally fine with it. I know he only saves it for people. in the murder category but when you do that with children like I'm sorry that's that you're your garbage human being like that I'm oh I know probably

Starting point is 00:17:21 prison is a like long-term many sentences but like you are garbage human being when you do that and so I'm okay and again like what's a what's a parents first instinct is to protect besides loving is to protect so and that was he was doing his instinctual habitual thing there and when he's all pictures of Aster and Cody on there, so I can understand him, I mean, it's the code of Dexter now, right? Yeah, and I mean, it seems reasonable to me within that paradigm

Starting point is 00:17:49 to, yeah, adjust for predators of that nature and it certainly seemed like this guy hadn't been reformed, so while I'm not going to go so far as to say we should just be out here killing people who are on various lists and things outright in the context of the show, it made sense, and I do think, I mean, we've talked a good

Starting point is 00:18:09 amount about Dexter and Rita as of the previous episode, But I do think that there is a spark of truth to what he is trying to, you know, confront here with his love for her and their, you know, potential union, their potential marriage. And, yeah, his concerns about the kid, like, I think, yeah, there's some interesting stuff to be examined about, you know, genetic trauma and things like that. And I think his concerns are valid. What if I pass this down, this offness down somehow? I think they're valid concerns, but I also like that he is willing to.

Starting point is 00:18:41 to go for it. And I am rooting for him to be an actually pretty all right dad, just given what we've seen here. Yeah, I think Deep at his core, he's still a good human being, even though he does very nefarious things to evil human beings. But I think Harry taught him a lot of wise lessons. And I think he's so good to Astor and Cody that I truly believe he's going to be a wonderful father. I don't think there's anything that he's not going to do for his child. Yep. Absolutely. All right. Appreciate you so much, Tara. Thank you, Tara. Hop it along. Dan minimo, thank you for jumping in. Will you just be watching season 1 through 4?

Starting point is 00:19:20 Will you watch the whole series plus the spinoffs? Not sure. That's a general question. I imagine certainly 1 through 4 at the minimum. I would be thrilled to watch all of it. I'd love to watch it all, though. On multiple varying factors. So the more we know down the line, we will let you guys know as well.

Starting point is 00:19:37 But appreciate your enthusiasm here. we got Ellie Thank you so much for chiming in Hello hello Dexter My favorite show and your reactions have been lovely I'm grateful for however many seasons we get Thank you so much Appreciate that

Starting point is 00:19:51 Let's see we got Brandon Brandon sorry How do you feel about the addition of Quinn to the cast I was very mixed on him when he first joined into the show Yeah we've talked a little bit about this So I'm not going to go on forever

Starting point is 00:20:05 But I am intrigued I'm still intrigued by him I don't love him the way I love the ensemble. I don't get the sense he is supposed to stick around and endear to us the same way the rest of the ensemble is. But I am curious about that plot line. And I think for Deb, he's an interesting foil and an interesting thorn. Yeah, and like John, just really quickly, I think like so far, like every time I feel like I think I know where they're going with the character or that I think, yeah, he's on the take. No, he's not.

Starting point is 00:20:32 I think they're doing a good job of, like, getting us off as an audience, off his scent or on his sense. So I can't figure out what his deal with. is, but I think that's, again, good writing. Yeah, absolutely. All right. Final couple. We got Fetted Muppet. How do you feel about the pacing of Season 3, episode 4? I thought it was kind of meh. Perhaps could have benefited from a new kill

Starting point is 00:20:51 thoughts. I've been wrapped this whole time, but I do get what you mean in terms of like there is like, you know, you get the start of some, you know, Dexter doing his Dexter thing with the, I believe it was episode four with the guy where he kills the guy from the beach.

Starting point is 00:21:07 And we don't really see much of that. So, yeah, I mean, I get why you would miss having some macabre, you know, murderous Dexter. And I wouldn't necessarily blame you for missing that facet of the show. But I didn't have any real problems with the pacing here. I think it's always, like, look, it's always nice to see him take out the garbage, right? But at the same point, we still got to see him be a strategist in regard to Miguel and Ramon. So I thought that was still, like, you know, compelling to watch in its own right. But also, too, it was a real character-centric-focused episode in regard to, you.

Starting point is 00:21:39 You know, how he finally got the validation. He needed watching this woman, like, making up a fake love in her mind with what she did to the guy that she, you know, killed and took his life. And that gave him the reassurance he needed in order to propose to Rita. And I thought that was, like, not endearing and sweet what he did to the guy, but sweet and endearing that he finally got the validation he needed in order to propose to read. And it was one of the sweetest proposals I've ever seen.

Starting point is 00:22:07 Absolutely was. I really enjoyed that. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah, hopefully we'll get some more serious. When we started the season, it was like, oh, Dexter's back on his Dexter shit. So, you know, the true crime serial killer aspect, it would be cool to get a little bit more of that back in the show. If you do that... So I imagine it'll come back before the season.

Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah, and I don't mind if you do that every episode, fine, as long as it's, like, really well, compelling, and the writing's good. But I think it's nice to have a little bit of breathing room and break. And as long as it's balanced, it's cool with me. Yeah, curious to hear what you guys think about that, though. And finally, Martin Nichols, appreciate you chiming in. I'm sure it comes up at the end of season two a little and possibly more just in discussion.

Starting point is 00:22:47 But if not, now that you've had some episodes to get used to it, how are you feeling about the evolving use of James Remar in his role as Harry? Excuse me. Ooh, G-fuel. Excuse me. We were talking about that in real time. They are definitely using him a little bit differently.

Starting point is 00:23:01 Not so much for, or not really, for flashbacks. They're more using him kind of in Dexter's subconscious. and like, if he were alive, how would he be speaking to me in this moment? I think that is a fascinating way to not get repetitive. And I actually, I think it's creative and inventive to not rinse and repeat in that way. So I like it. I think it's a brilliant way to use James Remar's incredible acting prowess and his versatility. And I think it's a smart way to not get, again, repetitive.

Starting point is 00:23:33 So I like it. What about you? Yeah, I think it's interesting to take that motif. into, yeah, morph it around the needs of each season and the shape and the themes of each season. So, yeah, having him be at first the flashbacks, the consistent mentor, fleshing out the code of Harry, fleshing out this origin for Dexter, then in season two, somebody pointed out, like, the more we doubt him, the less we see him, the less we flash back to him, which I thought was a pretty clever, you know, format choice, form choice.

Starting point is 00:24:01 And, you know, having, yeah, this doubt in Dexter's mind then cast shadow over his involvement just generally, physically in the show for that season, I thought was nicely handled. And now here, yeah, now that Dexter is kind of formulating his own take on the code, he's kind of in conversation with his memory of Harry. So, yeah, we're less confined to, like, you know, specific, you know, semi-factual flashbacks. Now we're sort of, yeah, in conversation with his legacy. And we're having sort of imagined conversations with him on things that they now. never got to talk about or uncovered territory that, you know, hadn't been fully provided for in the code.

Starting point is 00:24:43 So, yeah, I think the evolution of that has been interesting. I'm always happy to see James Remar. And, yeah, so far, I think each season has had a unique take on that. And I'm excited to see how it continues to unfold here. Well, let us know so far how you guys are enjoying season, season three. I'm like, wait, what season we end? Episode three and four. Thank you for joining us.

Starting point is 00:25:04 We appreciate it. We got to get going. Be sure to tune in. We will be doing episodes five and six next. That should be up in the next week. So take care. Be safe. Later.

Starting point is 00:25:15 Next time.

The Reel Rejects - DEXTER SEASON 3 Episode 3 & 4 REVIEW!!!

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