The Reel Rejects - DEXTER SEASON 4 Episode 5, 6, 7 & 8 REVIEW!!

Episode Date: October 12, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Sorry. Math. Sounded like someone I know. Four episodes already? What a way to end that. Just on a... Huh. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Gang. it has been another momentous block of dexasodes dextosodes they're both sound good john if you made it to this point the video would love if you could leave like subscribe hit the notification bell so you can be notified when the next block of dexter's comes your way as well thank you very much to the team over a prepper for slicing and dicing the tomatoes for this omelet of reactions together it's a task especially for a show like we've had some you know challenges along the way
Starting point is 00:01:03 getting these all over to you guys and the Prepper team is a huge huge factor in that happening so thank you to them and if you happen to be listening to this on a podcast platform of your choice leave us a little bit of a rating if you would be so kind we would very much
Starting point is 00:01:20 appreciate that it's big help yeah no my goodness I'm glad you mentioned that because if paper would have forgotten the sliced diced of onions and tomatoes I would have said this is not acceptable and take it back and re-edit this. Yes, of course. But they did a good job.
Starting point is 00:01:37 They remembered the tomatoes the first time, John, so we're good. Oh, yeah, they never forget. We're good. They never forget. All right. So I said, John, we'll get to the questions in a moment, but I said at the beginning of when we started
Starting point is 00:01:50 that this is probably so far, prematurely, my favorite season. I still feel that way after three, these four episodes. Yeah, I get. I love, love, love, seasons one through three. Very, very much, though. Seasons on another level. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:06 So, yeah, but there's been so many fascinating different things about Dexter trying to understand and gain knowledge emotionally, intelligently wise in his relationship and why he can't be fully honest, obviously. And Rita just is totally valid with the way she's feeling. like she wants a partner not someone she can't i mean obviously too also on top of that the things that they've dealt with in the past with lila and just with the miscommunication she wants a husband and a partner not someone uh that she has to worry about lying and you know not be in
Starting point is 00:02:45 being less you know less than truthful and uh not someone she can embrace fully so uh i thought that was a crazy angle and then just seeing uh deb uh having such a low view on herself and not feeling worthy of happiness and then also having this obsession and paranoia about going after the Trinity killer and then this latest new twist like the because we know John Lithgow is is a tall person I really know in my heart of hearts he is the one who killed Lundy and Deborah I'm sorry it's not some random but until with that is revealed I'm going to believe it was John Lithgow's character um alan right or not alan it's sorry uh arthur excuse me arthur mitchell i i i just don't know how he got down i don't know what he was doing or how he did he's a very meticulous and resourceful
Starting point is 00:03:38 serial killer but yeah i i don't know how he did it but i'm curious when we find out what happened and how he was able to make that shot at a at a shorter angle like that so i'm curious when we uh allow that to happen and the the fact of when we're delving more into his backstory. So again, we don't, we're not justifying what he's doing. It's awful. It's terrible, as we always talk about. But we understand him. And those are the best kinds of villains. They're written. And there's a lot of parallels between him and Dexter. Like, he didn't have the proper guidance and mentorship like a hairy. He had the exact opposite. He had an abusive alcoholic father who beat the shit out of him and called him names. So
Starting point is 00:04:20 understandable, not justifiable why he would walk down the dark. passenger path without any moral code so i think this season is absolutely brilliant and i hate christine hill with a passion uh but she's really really attractive what about you john how you feeling buddy i'm feeling good this has been really compelling continually and uh and yeah they've done a really nice job like i get the more we see of this the more i sort of understand why this show has been as beloved as it is and how it has you know endured the way that it has and one thing that's been fun and surprising is that these all feel like they are really well connected like there's a good serial quality to this while each season feels somewhat anthological as well you have you know
Starting point is 00:05:11 a new guest star you have a new sort of central mystery but it's all part of this ongoing growth and contortion of Dexter as a character, as a person, as a, you know, being, attempting to understand the unique makeup of his mind and the unique way he does or does not experience, you know, human emotions and sensations. And so, yeah, this is really nicely kind of provided yet another mirror for Dexter to look into and to, you know, both compare himself to, contrast himself from. and I do find it fascinating and I think John Lithgow
Starting point is 00:05:48 obviously his performance has been really lovely and multi-layered and you know the more you see of him the more you observe of him the more you know engrossed you are and yeah I really appreciate that they constantly find these ways
Starting point is 00:06:03 you know to develop Dexter's character by pitting him against you know people who are both were the adversaries but who also have little pieces of the puzzle that he might be missing and so yeah i continue to be very invested just in the ensemble in general uh and you know it's they have a really fun array of things that are engrossing some things that make you mad in a good way you know that are fun to yell at and uh yeah this has just been continually terrific incredible and i also
Starting point is 00:06:34 i love those office interactions too they are so much fun in when they're dramatic they need to be dramatic when they're fun they need to be fun but it's we're so invested in these characters that I like when they're we're off on the the subplots that are not pertinent to the main plot I love those office interactions they're just so it's so incredible to uh to watch and observe as an audience member like I you could literally not even have the main plot and just do the office interactions yeah we'd get tedious after a certain amount of time but I love them so much that I don't care and no this is this is I don't know they yeah they they they do a really nice job of making so many
Starting point is 00:07:12 engrossing, twisted circumstances that you both, it's weird. You want to see justice brought or, you know, some kind of retribution. You want Dexter to get his man, so to speak, but at the same time, I don't know, yeah, it's so fascinating that you find. They're good
Starting point is 00:07:29 at playing on the gray areas of things because, yeah, it's like you want to see more of them, and part of you is like, well, maybe you could really learn a lot from this guy, and the further you get the more, you're like, I don't know. But before we get any further, I think we should start with our questions because some of what we're talking about is going to relate to these directly. Yes, that's a good idea. We got to hurry through this question. I got twins
Starting point is 00:07:47 John. Yes, of course. I would not want to keep you from your big wins, John. Big weekend. Let's kick things off with Vampire Toad. Sorry, just make the claps really evident for the editing team. How do you feel? And thank you Vampire Toad for chiming in. We're going to break some of these comments apart so that we can get the most sort of show specific stuff addressed up top and then, you know, dive further into the fun facts and the, you know, more
Starting point is 00:08:17 amusing questions. But we'll try to get to everybody, of course. So, from Vampire Toad, how do you feel about the contrast of this new guest star character in comparison to Dokes, who is going after Dexter, Miguel, acting as an enabler
Starting point is 00:08:33 of sorts? How do you see that turning out? I hope you guys continue this show as I'm very intrigued with it as a first-time viewer myself. Thank you for following along with us. Long-time viewer, I love the reactions from you guys. You bounce off each other great. Oh, hell yeah. Well, bing.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Thank you, Vampire, too. We really do, actually. Yeah, I appreciate that. I love shooting with us. You too. The Flash and Bang or Bang Flash or whatever, we're a pretty good dynamic duo, you know, so thank you. We appreciate that. In regards to the
Starting point is 00:09:03 contrast of the new guest I'm assuming, obviously, you are talking about Alan Arthur, whatever his name is. He's fantastic. Archibald. Oh, yes. We'll go with that, Donald. He's fantastic. In comparison to Miguel Perado.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Yeah, he definitely enabled. I mean, he was kind of enabling Dexter because he got a release out of him in terms of like, this is the person. He had that dark passenger inside him, and Dexter helped him feel alive when he was doing these types of things and also to yeah yeah enabling each other but also too like michael was a very ambitious person and uh you know being assistant d a when he couldn't
Starting point is 00:09:50 do things uh in the legal sense and dexter would help him in that way too and he felt like you know i can use dexter to further my career as well so in my ambitious uh bindenset me string this out for my nefarious purposes so you know in that sense but uh arthur's a different beast just because they both had and again not that miguel didn't have a traumatic past his father abused him too so you can make that comparison as well that abuse and trauma are yeah abuse and trauma are very common theme i mean that's something people in these positions especially of course of course you know so you're going to find that comparison but i mean you know you you got a lot different in regards to that this man's got an
Starting point is 00:10:41 m o pattern he's been on the loose for 30 years and he's just very fascinating the the whole layer of his backstory is just so intriguing and compelling but in regards to the comparing of the two i really really adore the interactions between the two but i also love how dexter can learn from him in the good portions of i'm even though we saw a little bit of the tracks of it with the family life like it's kind of being very like stern on his children like you know you clean the car like this let me mr miagi you in the mean way it's like this like this like this but also too like he has seen like how successful he is as a family man so i do like that mentorship type of role um so i i do like that in regards to the contrast but uh you also asked
Starting point is 00:11:27 about doaks in there i would say like my reading between the lines i say there is a contrast in comparison of Doakes and Quinn, how they're both onto Dexter, although Doakes was just on to him from the very beginning. He never, like always something always felt off about Dexter, whereas Quinn, he's looking for a one-up on Dexter because Dexter's got leverage over him in regards to the money in the pocket. And so now he's looking for something to get leverage over him. So I like that comparison on why they were both going after Dexter.
Starting point is 00:12:04 so what about you john yeah i love the new uh i love the contrast that arthur trinity provides and i really have enjoyed the development of that character because yeah at first you imagine a guy who is maybe cold or detached or yeah who is you imagine somebody who might be very akin to dexter who you know probably has this one side of himself that is constantly internal monologing and the other side that he, you know, props up as a mascot to show to people to hide behind. And the more you get to know him, the more questions I have and the more sort of disconcerted I am because he does seem like a guy who is guided by some degree of faith. And he does have this, there are times when he feels like very fatherly and very like a mentor.
Starting point is 00:13:00 And there are other times where he feels like a child. like he feels like somebody who's really kind of acting on some sort of impulse and is and is sort of a wash in the world around him. And so, yeah, like I feel like the cat and mouse game this time is really fun because, you know, it's like a Miguel Prado or somebody is very at first, you know, avuncular and personable and then you reveal the cold calculating person within. And whereas you kind of start here with this idea of like, oh, man, this cold calculating guy who's been doing this for decades. And yet, I don't know, like I feel for him in ways and I am fascinated by him in a lot of ways. And we're in the, again, we're staring down the final four episodes. I have no idea how this is going to end up. And the whole thing where Dexter and the rest of the crew save his life at the end.
Starting point is 00:13:56 and they're now on this weird level playing ground where they both have some sense of each other's darkness. Yeah. He's really fascinating and yeah, like that whole thing where he takes him to his house, his old house to visit the scene and sort of starts painting the picture for him.
Starting point is 00:14:13 It really feels like a guy who is kind of making it up moment by moment, which makes the ruse or the hide all the more fascinating. And it does make me wonder who what else his family members might know and I think it's a big stretch to assume that they all know but maybe one of them done like I don't know
Starting point is 00:14:36 they all know the truth and they're scared shitless of him so they follow his every horse I can't tell or else some of them are on board with it or or something we're so proud of you dad you take out those people well I don't know like because this season has a lot to ask about you know dexter as a father and you know the the yeah what adding that into the mixture does yeah and this guy is uh uh you know he is when we meet him he is living like the lifestyle that dexter is trying to create and has been told
Starting point is 00:15:09 he couldn't have and this guy seems to be having it all and he's not tired all the time so you know and i'm assuming he's gotten his daughter an ipod once in her life but you know john it just makes you wonder how the more we observe him the more manic and the less sort of calculated and in control this guy feels so then it makes you wonder like how did you build this life you know that that would be without arousing suspicion from your family well that but also just how did you build a life that is so structured and has so much scaffolding and has so much you know like you're an active member of your community you're doing charitable work you're at church you are you know with your family and you come home every you know all of a lot to do
Starting point is 00:15:53 up you can still real... Yeah, and the stretches of time that go, like, it sounds like this, they paint it as it's a potentially like annual ritual or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:04 And, you know, what happens, I guess, in between all that time, you know, are you just bottling it up until the trauma becomes too much? Like, it's, it's just, yeah, it's a fascinating series of questions. Last thing I'll say, because we do need to move on
Starting point is 00:16:17 to the next set of questions, but I highly doubt as much as I think Arthur isn't very intriguing. character like Miguel Prada. There's no way he's going to have a better line. I've got Sadie and Hull! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's probably one of my favorite lines in the whole show.
Starting point is 00:16:33 That's an epic moment, yeah. Yeah, 100%. Thank you, Vampire Toad, for the question. We really appreciate, and for you being a Royal Reject. Heck, yeah. Let's go to Emma! Next, you got a trio of questions partly two, just to how the sausage is made a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I'm trying to kind of off-road through these. in descending order or some kind of order from like the most, you know, specific questions pertaining to these episodes and then, you know, working toward the more fun and, uh, hypothetical questions after that. So, uh, sometimes if you have multiple questions, we'll read them together. Other times we'll break them up, et cetera, et cetera. Uh, Emma starts by saying, uh, hey, John and Andrew.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Hi, Emma. Hope you guys are enjoying season four so far. What do you think of Arthur's backstory? We now know the reason for the pattern of his murders. do you think there's more to it he didn't tell Dexter or do you think he was fully honest and if he didn't kill Lundy and Deb who did I'm just real quick I'm going to read the follow-up question as well yes just so we get that in there because it is directly pertinent to what we're talking about Emma goes on to say also what do you think of John Lithgow's performance this season I think he does a great job do you guys have a favorite movie or performance of his and then we will hop into the last question after these but but yeah so we'll start there uh well we know that john does not john thinks there might be something more to his backstory who knows he's a serial killer so i mean he could be telling a portion of the story right i mean that's what guys in this position do they
Starting point is 00:18:13 they there's a fallacy to to the stories that they tell right so sculpt a reality yeah exactly like And I think John might be on to something. I mean, if it is the full truth, very compelling, very sympathetic, I would feel, again, no justification, but I would actually feel for him like this is the cycle that, this would, this is the cycle and the tragedy that led to this man becoming this and having to relive this moment again and again and again by, you know, doing this to other victims and people. so it's like, this is awful. So he could be, couldn't be. I'm intrigued to find out. I can't wait to see what the truth really is, or if it is this. And do I think he killed Lundy and Deb?
Starting point is 00:19:00 100%, I think it was him. Until I am proven otherwise, or until I'm told otherwise, it was him. I don't know how he did it. He is so meticulous. He is so resourceful. He is so intelligent. It was him until I'm told otherwise.
Starting point is 00:19:13 John Ler, favorite Lithago performance. I have not seen a ton of his films, but if I would have to pick out of the very few I've seen, I guess I would go, or not I guess, I'm going to go with Cliffhanger. He was such a fun, meticulous, and I like how he was able to be comedic to at times in that film with, with a long sight. Because Sylvester Stallone is bigger than life, you know, type of brute. It's like, in a physical fight, he's going to freaking pete the crap out of him. So he's got to, like, use his brain to outsmart. You know, someone like Sylvester Stallone, but I would, I'd pick a cliffhanger. Yeah, goodness, favorite is hard to pick.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I would, the first thing that comes to my mind is the adventures of Buccaro Bonsai across the, is it the eighth dimension or the ninth dimension? I should know this. Oh, yeah, he was an interstellar. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's good, an interstellar too. Like, yeah, Buckaroo Bonsai is always the first thing that comes to my mind. I like that name.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Across the eighth dimension, there you go. I want to say that name, Buccaro Banzai. go ahead buckaroo hey man that's your boy it's uh freaking peter weller is uh buckaroo bonza that's a great ass movie and if you haven't seen it go watch it dead or alive you're coming with me it's a bonkers movie it's got a lot of great character actors
Starting point is 00:20:30 in it uh there's he was born june 30th 1947 if i'm not mistaken but i might be wrong i will trust you on any matters of date oh yeah he was lord farquod i've always wanted to i forgot he was rachel Zegler in that film. Lull. I mean, Lord Farkwood, I mean.
Starting point is 00:20:50 What? Oh, no, people mentioned in the new Snow White movie, the way her hair is. She looks like Lord Farkwood. I was just a joke, Rachel, I'm sorry. I've always wanted to see Third Rock from the Sun. I know people... Oh, yeah, I've heard that's a great show. I know people love that, or loved
Starting point is 00:21:05 that show when it was on. But yeah, goodness gracious. Oh, I forgot how I met your mother. I mean, yeah, there are a lot of great roles. And I wanted, I feel bad like there was that remake of, of Pez Cemetery that he was pretty good in, even though the movie wasn't great. But yeah, I, uh, I really appreciate what he's been doing here. And yeah, the backstory is, I think, yeah, there's definitely more to it. I mean, we know now a lot of crucial details.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And I was, yeah, sitting here, I think, kind of surmising like, okay, what happened? Is this all a recreation of what happened with your family? Surely enough it was. And I think, yeah, there's a fast. fascinating moment watching him go into that sort of weird reverie slash you know traumatic recollection of yeah you know spying on his sister which is already kind of like an interesting little piece of he says that thing he's like I was 10 it was innocent and like there is an argument for that but it is like one of those moments that you think of and you're like okay at least at the outset a certain degree of something you could call deviance you know and then and then yeah this accident that happens and then uh you know the the abandonment you know as his mom detaches and then the anger and the trauma from his father and all that stuff and then uh you know and then every recreation and then and then sorry i'm missing the bit uh yeah like i i find him
Starting point is 00:22:39 fascinating i have to imagine there's more it's the thing is like the further we the more details we get the more like cold facts we get the more i am fascinated by like just his behavior and why and uh yeah i i think there's probably more there that he didn't tell dexter but as of these four episodes you certainly feel like you've gotten a good expounding on his character his mode you know what he's recreating sure and he sees a little bit of dexter and a younger version of himself too yeah i think in in fascinating ways is there seeing versions of each other in each other. And it's been fascinating
Starting point is 00:23:19 to watch the power dynamic change and to your question about the performance. I mean, it's only gotten more engrossing and I love the shades he's playing because it feels like there are a bunch of people in there. And it almost feels like he's, and I don't mean this in like a silly Hollywood
Starting point is 00:23:35 kind of way, uh, it almost feels like he's got multiple personalities or something or I don't know. Like it's not like they're all not him, but like one day. Yeah, he's very, again, short and cold. And you watch him slip in and out of these mindsets. You know, he's warm one moment.
Starting point is 00:23:54 And then, you know, everyone leaves the room. And then you watch him change. And there are times when he seems very, you know, calm and in control. And, like, he's got a sense of learned, lived wisdom. And then other times he feels completely manic and, you know, sort of like he's acting on impulse. Yeah, when Dexter was holding the sister's ashes. Ooh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:14 and like to watch him get rattled and then to have them both in another position where they have this leverage with each other like he knows a version of dexter's secret and dexter has gotten an even greater glimpse into his secret and uh and yeah we're again at the precipice of the final act of the season and i'm like i don't know how we're gonna friggin wrap all this up and it seems like the more i know the less i know and that's really fun yes that's a good point i am very Curious about who shot Lundy and Deb, I am 50-50. Because part of me is like there's every reason that he would want or need to do this. You ran right into Lundy. Yes. Part of me is prepped for a mislead here, though. I mean, the shooting trajectory is a fascinating detail. And part of my brain goes, well, he could have crouched or he could have had some kind of other way of accounting for that.
Starting point is 00:25:13 but if he was like five feet away as they said then that raises a whole other set of questions because yeah like how would you not notice or where could they hide that's so out of sight and yet so direct and it makes me wonder if someone else in his family maybe knows or something
Starting point is 00:25:33 as a long shot theory I know if that is the case I will freaking lose my mind part of me is like is his son looking out for him or something like that like and because Dexter has Harrison now and granted Harrison's baby there's not a ton of like deep diving into that yet but there is that question of do you pass along these jeans oh my god Harry obviously did the nurture to help you know a guide this but you know does is Arthur more like Dexter than he realizes does he pass this along to his kids in some way shape or form it certainly seems very specific to his trauma but the killer instinct maybe who knows what that's made of So, yeah, very, very fascinating and, uh, oh, yeah, we know the reason for the pattern of his murders, but I feel like there's so much more to learn about the guy. You just gave me a lot to think about now with the family on that trajectory.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I don't know. And part of me is like, that's making me think. Well, and two, I'm like, I don't know, it could be something else that we've overlooked. I mean, it, because the season has had two things to focus on, it's the vacation murders and the Trinity killer, it seems like if it's not one, it must be the other. and we ruled out the vacation stuff. But, like, I don't know. I'm still,
Starting point is 00:26:45 part of me wouldn't put it past them to, like, surprise us with something else. It definitely wasn't Johnny Rose or Nikki Lund or whatever her name was. Dude, what if it was Anton? It was definitely Anton. He wanted revenge. I think he's taller. I think he's taller than Masuka, though, but, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Masuka did it. He was Masuka. He wanted to see the twins. Because Lundy saw, yeah, exactly. Because Lundy saw him, he didn't get to see. I know. Yeah. Thank you so much, Emma, for all.
Starting point is 00:27:12 the questions. You know it's never a proper review, Emma, if we don't get a question or questions from you. So we appreciate you so much, Emma. Absolutely. Thank you so much. Hunter Preston. Thank you for chiming in. This was the season, Jennifer Carpenter and Michael C. Hall got married. Damn. Do you think that has affected their on-stream chemistry, making it less like a brother and sister dynamic, or do you think they still hit the mark? They still hit the bark. I mean, I, again, this is just a me thing? I have felt since season one, and I, made the dumbass prediction like hey you know what cut yourself some slack predictions are are far fetched half the time yeah yeah but i i said this i'm like they have and also too the fact that
Starting point is 00:27:55 they're not like biological brother and sister at the end of season one or in the middle i can't remember when i yeah you're shipping them i i was kind of shipping them just because they're not biological even though they grew up as brother and sister so that would still be a little bit weird but it was because they had so much on-screen chemistry which i guess they realized in real life too let's translate this into a real life romantic situation so having said that i understand that they were married here in real life they still hit the mark when it comes to the brotherly and sisterly uh you know uh relationship so i i don't feel for one second even though i still feel that chemistry from them uh you know the romantic sparks if you will but they still feel
Starting point is 00:28:35 you can still feel that history that dynamic uh the interactions are still really uh solid and not for one moment do I feel like they don't feel like brother and sister anymore not for a moment do I feel that way no yeah I love the deb and decks brother sister relationship and I love the kind of batting average of like sometimes they're really simpatico like siblings can be and then sometimes they rib each other or upset each other in the way that feels very much like how siblings can so I think they do a terrific job here and and those sequences man uh where in the episodes five and six earlier on when we're just recovering and in the aftermath of the shooting uh some of those sequences with uh her unloading her just emotion and trauma were so gripping and her performance has been incredible like the
Starting point is 00:29:31 when she's in the parking lot and refuses to leave and is like breaking down like oh man i felt that in my bones like like yeah they are both terrific she is absolutely terrific and yeah i really appreciate the brother sister qualities that still never as of yet still have not fallen by the wayside at any point and granted it's not like the lion's share of what we're here to do and there are a lot of different dynamics at play but i think their brother sister relationship and dynamic is still i guess firing and i really enjoy that they include it still for sure i guess the plus two to being married and being on a show like this together you can practice your lines and uh rehearse together at home when you're not doing other activities.
Starting point is 00:30:09 So that's cool. And you can put your heads together, yeah, about things that you're learning about the characters and, yeah, in ways you can kind of add flavor to a scene. And then, and then Michael probably was saying, just call me Frank Lundy. Oh, golly. But, yeah. All right, P, we miss you, Lundy so much. I know, I know. But, yeah, big props to them for some great, great acting work.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah, really seriously. Thank you so much, Hunter, for the question. Being a royal reject, we appreciate it. Thank you. All right, we'll go to another from Vampire Toad. Sorry for reading these out of order, but Vampire Toad says, I'm a first-time watcher in season three along with you. Season four?
Starting point is 00:30:50 Thank you for joining us. Well, I imagine you, what I'm taking is you started with us at season three, or at least, you know, maybe you'd seen one and two, and then from here on it's all new to you. But either way, thank you for being part of our journey. What's your reaction to Dexter's fatherly rage and his changing code when it comes to his kids. How do you feel about this?
Starting point is 00:31:09 Do you think it's a good sign of emotional growth or a sign he's in less control? Quote, fatherly rage. How do you feel? How do I feel about his father? Oh, no, no, no, go back up. I need to read it. I need visual.
Starting point is 00:31:24 What's your reaction to Dexter's? It's changing code when it comes to this. No, I think it's a sign of emotional growth. I mean, having children means you're giving up a lot of your freedom. and I think Dexter like was having doubts about that in the beginning and you could see that not only having doubts but the man was falling asleep at every which way he couldn't he messed up a murder case in court which allowed someone to go free he fell asleep at the wheel which caused a horrific car accident almost killing himself in the process but you know he realized at a certain point that hey my family is a part of me it's a part of my soul it allows me to have this normalcy and I'm I'm truly not the same without my family and also too this code and this moral complex that I live by and this moral code that I live by the code of Harry like Harry was there for me
Starting point is 00:32:17 in the most troubled times and I would not be who I am without him. He's and he was my father and I can be that for someone too and I can be a have a family and have some normalcy in my life. So I mean I think he took control in that moment and embracing it and I think there's something so heartfelt and beautiful about that that Dexter made a choice as opposed to you know falling victim to what that cop for instance that he took out in episode four like she succumbed to the i can't breathe let me take out my my husband and my daughter not justified but understand where her perspective was you know she took the easy route out and dexter yeah and dexter is not taking the easy route and but he's taking the more satisfying and beautiful route of this and i think that
Starting point is 00:33:03 means he does have a good it's a good sign of emotional growth for sure and then i think john and i are experiencing something beautiful blossom and an evolvingness with dexter yeah i think his fatherly rage and the changing code when it comes to his kids is just fascinating uh and yeah like you know having people in your life and you know again having family having community these are also survival instincts in ways at least you know in a deep sort of uh cosmic kind of way um and yeah i think the changing of the code and the conversation that he's always in with the code is very fascinating and it's a great you know just sign of the fact that yeah like it's it's a little bit of both i suppose like it's a response to a changing situation that yes you are in less control of
Starting point is 00:33:55 and that you do need to kind of figure out how to reset the balance of for greater harmony and so it's fun to watch as he both tries to make the family better for the sake of these people that he does seem to care about and especially now that he has like his own actual son of his own you know uh genetic makings uh yeah like i i feel like it's partly uh a greater you know need to blend and survive but it's also yeah about making you know a place where he can have both if possible and and seeing that example set in the Trinity killer who is also a father who is also somebody who is maintaining this you know picturesque life um yeah i think it's a really fun conversation to have about dexter
Starting point is 00:34:41 and the fact that you know like his mentorship from his father is such an important part of his character such an important threat of the show now he's in a position to start passing that on and wondering from a different perspective about the things that he struggles with um so yeah i mean like it's i think it is the constantly evolving debate of what emotions Dexter feels, if any, and how. Like, I do feel like there's something in there still. And I think he is trying to grow in his own unique and fascinating little way. Yeah, I'm curious to see what kind of control he's going to have when he finds out
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Starting point is 00:37:29 John, too, we all got growth to go through. You're doing great, buddy. Matt Worsham, how do you feel about Arthur's family life? Do you think Dexter is right to try learning from the Trinity Killer on how to be a family man, or do you think he should take him out at the first chance he gets? Well, you know, if you're going to take a page as being a family man, I think he should watch a Nicholas Cage film about that. I think that would have been the better route, honestly.
Starting point is 00:37:53 But, you know, if you're going to do this, we've seen... dexter do stuff like this before you know he knew that his therapist who was played by tony goldwin i believe it was in season one he'd do this man to be a rotten piece of shit and he's like you know what we get some therapy out of it'll be get something cathartic out of this before i take out my subject so this isn't new for for dexter he knows he's going to get his target eventually so if he can gain something out of this when it comes to a positivity and the most important thing which is family because as we all know john family comes first family And, you know, I think that's how Dexter is viewing this.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Like, hey, I'm going to get my target at the end of the day. But if I can learn something valuable of this, which is going to allow me to grow as a human being and make family life that much better for me, I'm going to do it. And if I can take the good parts of Arthur, which I don't know how many there are, but if I can do that and bring even more of a sense of purpose to what I already have in life, I'll take that. And then I'll get rid of the sky. What about you? I'm very fascinated about Arthur's family life, and I feel like the more we've learned about it, the less I understand in a good way.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And I think it makes a lot of sense for Dexter. I really liked beholding that moment where he follows him for ages, and they finally arrive at the house, and he's like, holy shit, this guy is literally doing what I've been trying to do that the code suggests I couldn't do. And again, it's that evolution of the image of him
Starting point is 00:39:26 because at first you see him, in these isolated only in his element as Trinity and then when you see him in his home element he feels again so very at ease and in command of that and yet the more you get to know him the more you feel like how do you maintain this facade
Starting point is 00:39:42 and so yeah I think it's very conscientious of Dexter because of again when somebody arises who's like on his level to a degree I think yeah it is sort of like you do have to check and compare notes and as deplorable as a lot of these
Starting point is 00:39:57 this guy's crimes are obviously you know this this trauma that he's reenacting on people who have nothing to do with it and who are you know if not completely morally innocent in the grand scheme of things have nothing to do with him and so like yeah it's it's a great question mark because on the one hand harry's not wrong dexter probably should take him out asap but given what dexter is trying to the life he's trying to lead and the twofold it's like the life he's trying to lead because that's what everybody should have the right to pursue if they want to, but also because it is a good survival instinct to have that life. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense that he would want to find a way to get close and to learn the secret. And the problem for me, not the problem with
Starting point is 00:40:41 the writing, but just like the conundrum now is sort of like, yeah, I don't know. I think the cracks are probably more innumerable than you would imagine. And it doesn't seem as though he is as in control of this as it would present from the outside. So I'm wondering if, there's any more for him to learn because he certainly seemed ready to take him out in these attempts. I totally agree with everything. And last thing I just want to add to this, my only other thing I'm worried about is now that he didn't take him out, I'm worried about any other victims that might be a result of Dexter not taking this guy out. That's always the price of the intrigue is sort of like, while you're busy, you know, being sort of excited and challenged by just having another big player
Starting point is 00:41:26 in town, you know, who, you know, is cut of your cloth. At the same time, you know, this cat and mouse game has a body count, a collateral damage, you know, and that's just another moral conundrum that you have to look at and face. Yeah, I agree. But yeah. Who's going to be the collateral damage of your learning? Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 00:41:45 And then, you know, they didn't ask for that. They didn't deserve that. Yes. It's okay. Dexter needed to be a better father and family figure. It's a great question, Mark. and it is, again, something that, yeah, if you saw somebody who seemed like
Starting point is 00:41:57 they really knew what they're doing and you're like, shit, teach me. But sadly, it doesn't seem like it's as easy as that. Janice Bragg. I'll read these two together. Episode 7 has one of my favorite lines that still pops in my head from time to time.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Two serial gillers go for a ride. Why do I feel this joke ends with only one of them coming back? Excellent. That is a good one. that. And then Janice goes on to say for episode eight, why do you think Dexter saved Trinity from jumping off the building? I mean, I feel like Dexter kind of said he said he, yes, but not by my hands. I feel like Dexter wanted the satisfaction of doing it himself rather than letting this guy, you know, fall by his own, you know, throwing of himself feeling of whatever you want to say. But I think that's the simple, you know, most, or simplistic answer to, to give. Dexter wants.
Starting point is 00:42:54 to do it himself you know yeah i think there's definitely that and it's it's another like random variable too and i wonder if there's any element of him that while obviously you can't give everybody the full picture like this is so important to deb because of lundee and there's still the kind of question mark of like who's the shooter and is that involved in this and stuff so you know he's certainly ready to dispatch him so it certainly seems like a big part of it is just like no you're mine you know and you know you don't get to choose this way out you know you don't get to leave without the retribution element yeah uh but you know i think there could also be some level of kinship there some twisted sense of like if anyone's going to do this it should be somebody who understands
Starting point is 00:43:42 it should be me um and uh and too i don't know like it's maybe just a latent human instinct he's experiencing uh you know it's it's a fascinating one but i think it's largely that it's like no no no you don't you don't get the peace and satisfaction of just like ending this on your own terms i'm going to teach you the lesson and potentially i don't know maybe ask one more question or two yeah get a little more knowledge but also too i think i kind of just was alluding to it this is very personal like if he really is the shooter which i believe he is i mean that's that's dexter's sister that he harmed and almost killed so he wanted like if any if he's going to die he's going to die by my hands yeah yeah oh and i mean that's what the whole thing here has been
Starting point is 00:44:26 for that's what all this trouble has gone to like it if i don't if i'm not the one to do this like i feel like too there's just the pragmatic uh sort of like i waste all this time and a risked life and limb for this and you know all this weird you know development yeah and on top of that too also you create a a like when dexter does it he's very meticulous when he takes out someone and he you know, harvestes the potty and cuts it into pieces
Starting point is 00:44:52 and then throws in the ocean, if you would have let him jump right there, it's going to create a whole array of problems as well.
Starting point is 00:44:58 So I don't know. I'm sure he could have dissected, but again, there's just, there's definitely that console thing too. Yeah, it's going to make a whole mess of his,
Starting point is 00:45:05 the way he processes and does his, his thing. So, yeah, and some people have probably witnessed him in relation to Arthur
Starting point is 00:45:13 and if they're both out on this build and then Arthur disappeared. Yeah, he had an alibi that he was in Tampa, but I'm like also I don't...
Starting point is 00:45:20 Granted, I guess if he's gonna kill him in Tampa anyway so he would have disappeared where they were both out there anyway and I don't know if anybody knows he's there but there were also other guys up there
Starting point is 00:45:27 they helped right away so it would have been a very messy situation I mean granted we know that he jumped on his own but it still would have been a messy situation and again it's personal he wanted to do it himself there's so many yeah
Starting point is 00:45:40 this season's been really fun in terms of just how fascinating all the you know twists turns and and and yeah just odd circumstances Circumstances afoot. Let's go to Laura Raine has a couple of very
Starting point is 00:45:56 amusing questions here for us. I say this every time, but loving this series, as are we. I'm glad you are too. John and Andrew, you have such a great time together, and it translates all your viewers, oh, hell yeah, dude. This is seriously so much fun to you. Yeah, we do. I'm glad if you guys are enjoying it as much as we are. If you were Dexter, what excuse would you give
Starting point is 00:46:18 Rita to explain the distance she's feeling. We'll start with that one. What excuse would I give to explain with the distance? I would say I'm going to the water park a lot. It's really hot outside. The humidity. That's tough because I'm not as methodical and I'm not a serial killer. So what excuse would I come up with?
Starting point is 00:46:43 Well, I mean, if you were, though, it's as if you were Dexter. I know, I know. But I'm like in my own head. I would just say I've been out bowling. I'm really serious about my game. We got these shirts made for the team. The only problem with that is Rita knows the people. She's been to the office.
Starting point is 00:46:58 She knows Masuka. She knows on hell and she knows. Maybe Dexter's training on his own. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. Sharpen his skills. She's been working with Roy Munson and Ernie McCracken and all that. So, yeah, I really don't know what excuse I would come up with because, again,
Starting point is 00:47:17 And there's that I think that goes into John's point. Like, if the family doesn't know, how is he able to keep up this ruse and this facade while also managing to be such a good father and husband and do the serial killing and go to and be at the church and be a school teacher? How is that possible? I think it helps when you don't kill very often. Right. I think that's a big part. I do take for granted is they are like, oh, this happens like once a year. And yeah, like he moves around.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Yeah, that does help. And it's three, so, like, there's a numerousness, but it's also like, well, you could, I guess, do like a, take a week, go some place and take care of it for the year, you know? Yeah, I guess so, I guess. Yeah, but, uh, once a year three times. But yeah, if you were Dexter in Dexter's position. What excuse. I'm watching the movie Punisher Warzone, Honey, and you were great in it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:11 She's in Punisher Warzone. Yeah, Julie Benz is, um, read the fourth ramble. movie you're great and that too i don't know i really don't know what excuse what excuse so i mean because look we know how smart dexter is too he's really smart when it comes to figuring out a story right on the spot or even thinking about a story we hear it in his inner monologue or his inner thoughts rather and then he uh he is narration he's really freaking good at this stuff he's good at cover yeah he's very very good and like typically i don't know not as much with rita lately but with rita apparently because he lives with her it's 24 hours a day with her or when he's not working rather or
Starting point is 00:48:45 doing his text or dark passenger thing it's a different thing you have to have a different kind of dynamic with your partner honesty and trust to communication right so yeah that's why it was fascinating to watch him in therapy with her and like he's kind of down there but then he's kind of not you know what i mean there's there's like a sculpting of the truth there yeah i think he goes with kind of the right thing in a sense at least this idea of like hey i need space for myself i'm afraid of this traumatic past that I have driving you away if you were to be
Starting point is 00:49:20 privy to the deeper aspects of it and also I have just these you know elements these physical elements of my life that I feel like I don't have a place for like I don't know all that stuff and then the little like making of his little shack in the backyard
Starting point is 00:49:36 like the fellow as much as I love the apartment and I do miss the apartment I'm happy Deb got the apartment and and yeah I think oddly enough what he said is kind of sensible, you know, because that's, I have to imagine a very common thing people find once getting married, having kids, you don't feel like an individual so much anymore. And there's like a hierarchy of people you need to be. And you, the individual is probably, you know, further down the line than ever before. Because it's you as a member of the whole family, then it's you as the member of the couple that you're a part of, you know. And then maybe work. you and then maybe you you down here and you know that's hard to get to and so yeah i feel like his his cover generally was pretty conscientious i know what i would say honey have a seat i'm secretly a vigilante at night an anti-hero i am phoenix jones got a lot of bodies i've dissected
Starting point is 00:50:34 and thrown into the ocean and then she'd laugh and say well that's it i tried to be honest do that you're the one who's spit in my face and didn't listen to the truth do you do they tell the truth because it's so absurd no one will believe you thing that's what i would do i don't know if it would work you know fair enough alora goes on to say if you had to give dexter a fake alias uh instead of kyle butler what would you pick i got the name i'm going carl bixler oh okay i was going to say gerard reese maybe i like that yeah wow gerard reese uh maybe also peter pedigrew that's a good murderer's name um you know slime yeah yeah yeah Ted Gacy yes uh Ed Bundy yes uh Lizzie fish yes yes uh yeah BTK but stick with Borden I'm gonna stick with my names I like them
Starting point is 00:51:32 those are good alias this Amy Fisher Alan Smithy. Hey Alan Frank Hill Yeah He can be What's Trinity's name again Arthur what Arthur Mitchell Arthur Mitchell
Starting point is 00:51:51 There you go He's Mitchell Arthur Would have been the perfect Mitchell Arthur That's the perfect one Because then you could be like What Kismet
Starting point is 00:52:00 Yes As Lundy would have said But comment below Yes But yeah comment below Your alternate pseudonyms for the decks. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:52:13 We did that one. We did that one. Let's do this one. Ellie. Ellie. Hey, John and Andrew. This has probably been asked by now. But if you found out someone on the reject crew
Starting point is 00:52:27 was a serial killer who only killed bad people, would you still want to do reactions with them? I thought I told you not to tell anyone about that. My dark passenger. You know, I keep no secrets from Ellie. Okay. I had to tell Ellie. would I still want to
Starting point is 00:52:41 this isn't fast I definitely would be terrified a little bit I mean I'd be happy to know the trash is being taken out in the real world it would be better to do that than someone on the reject crew being a serial killer who does not
Starting point is 00:52:59 only kill bad people yes I mean I'd be comfortable knowing that someone is out there doing this would I want to react with them I mean, if I knew for a fact, like Dexter... Those would be some unique ass for you. If I knew... Hey, just keeping my...
Starting point is 00:53:16 Serial murderer reacts. I'm keeping my eye on your peripherals. If I knew for a fact, they have the code that Dexter does, code of Harry, and I for sure was protected in that sense, and I'm never going to be harmed, I guess. Otherwise, I'd really be scared. Yeah, I think the sensible answer would be to be, I guess, somewhat caused.
Starting point is 00:53:38 cosmic really relieved that yeah that it's only like the most heinous of people who are getting this treatment but also i i think it would be hard to just be like cool now let's go watch a movie let's watch dexter let's rewatch it this is about you right it's a biography yeah this is like very meta for you right yeah absolutely this i mean you know you can speak from experience ha ha ha ha uh appreciate that question Emma let's do another one Emma says lastly do you think Batista breaking the table towards the end of episode 8 was supposed to happen or an outtake they kept in that's a great question I would love to go back and look at it I honestly says Emma don't know which but their reactions seem pretty real to me like they were trying not to laugh and to keep going anyways can't wait to see your reactions and hope you all have a great day I know what happened Emma I think during one of the takes or In between takes during the break time, Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter said everyone out. We're going to make sure this table is working right. They had 20 minutes to themselves and then Angel sat on it afterwards and that happened. So I think that's what happened and was not supposed to be there like that. I want to go back and look at the moment, but I would not at all be surprised if that was genuine.
Starting point is 00:54:58 And even if the cover, yeah, of like, oh, you know, good thing that didn't happen. yesterday or whatever it was you know that that cover felt like a good bit of improv and it's weird i hadn't i hadn't thought of it at the time i think because the moment flies by so naturally that it feels like a thing that just it feels just like an extra piece of detailing or a personality put on the scene but at the same time now that you've said that i'm like i bet i would definitely uh you know believe if that was the case and i love when stuff like that makes it into things yeah well like those thumbprints yeah just like uh i guess one that's a little off topic but like something that was not supposed to be in the movie for instance like in pretty woman i assume you've seen that right pretty woman yeah 1990 directed oh no wait i haven't seen oh you have sorry to yeah julia roberts yeah and richard gear but there's just it's not gotta spoil the movie free but there's a moment where she's reaching in to grab like this beautiful necklace and he closes the uh the the necklace case on her uh just hand not to her fingers rather not not to hurt or anything but julia roberts didn't know that was going to have to have happen and she's like the reaction he got from her like was very genuine because she didn't
Starting point is 00:56:05 know it was going to happen so it's like I love both bits like that and on film or on TV so that's cool 100% absolutely yeah damn it Michael Cahall and Jennifer Carpenter I bet the actor from Angels like why did you guys tell me you did that wait which actor Michael Call and Jennifer Carpenter the actor from Angel what was this no I said the actor who played Angel sat on that oh oh angel it's like why didn't you guys tell me you were in here for 20 minutes I would have not sat on that table. Lull. Who we got next?
Starting point is 00:56:35 We got Jay Rushden. Question. What up, Jay? Would the age of COVID affect Dexter's job in any way there? I mean, if it was turning right at the main point of COVID, I would imagine there'd be some remote. I don't. Yeah, I don't know because everything. COVID would absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:55 It's weird. There would, from what I understand, there were. at least some degree of death and murder happening when people were all cooped up. So, I mean, there would be crime scenes. Yeah. That would affect his police work, certainly, because he would probably have to show up for spatter. Yeah. And I think it would be.
Starting point is 00:57:15 That's true. I think in a lot of ways, it would be a nightmare for his, you know, dark passinging as, you know, how are you ever going to get away to do it? Yeah. How are you going to do your observation? He'd be watching that commercial. What was it, American era? I forgot what it was, want to get away. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:31 But, yeah, no, he definitely would have to be cooped up at home or in the, the tool shed that he created there. So, yeah, that would be. It's like you're either at the, like, I imagine during that time, police are essential workers. So he would be at work. And I guess that alibi could, it would just, yeah, even if he could still use that alibi, I'm sure it would constrict his ability to, you know, Dexter properly. And, yeah, I'm fascinated to imagine what COVID-era Dexter would have been like. But yeah, leave us your thoughts on that down below. We got one more.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Fun fact from Vampire Toad. An interesting fact about this season, season four marks the start of Michael C. Hall's battle with cancer. Oh, wow. He started chemotherapy when season four wrapped and was in remission by season five. So if you notice hair changes in season 5 He wore a wig after he lost his hair to chemo Incredibly his performance is still top tier And he won a Golden Globe for Dexter during his cancer battle
Starting point is 00:58:37 Thank you Vampire Toad for sharing that I had no clue But I first of all Michael C Hall I mean what what courage to still show up this I mean it's already hard enough to be an actor be on set When so many people on the crew just like Hey we just want to come here go home Like give you give a great performance and let's
Starting point is 00:58:56 get the hell out of here so like that's already hard enough but to do it while i can't even imagine the pain levels you are dealing with is from cancer and chemo and i as a viewer had no idea you are battling this uh deadly disease so i mean that again that takes incredible strength i think it speaks a lot to the testament of him as a as a human being is uh his character yeah and uh to still say like hey we need to like cancel the show indefinitely until i am feeling better. Like, nope, the show must go on, even if I am not feeling well. And to still give this level of performance. Wow, that's incredible. But yeah, wow, I never knew that. And also, I will say this, too, I did notice because I'm not sure any of you knew this, but I guess now you will
Starting point is 00:59:43 if you didn't. I'm the one who posts, uh, Roxy does a lot of the social media for us on our channel, or rather on the Instagram page and just usually across all the other, all the other social me is but when it comes to posting the movie review reactions or the tv show reactions that's all me and i will tell you when i did uh whenever i post the season four uh for dexter i was like his hair looks a little bit why does his hair look so different so i was what that was in the back of my mind i didn't look it up well and each season of a show people get no i no i know but his hair really look different than seasons one through three and i was like something or excuse me season three was the one it really looked a little off
Starting point is 01:00:24 and different. I'm like, something is often different right now. And now that I'm reading it, so I was like, yeah, this makes a little more sense now to me. I don't know if it would be in effect for season three. I know it said season four, but even I'm telling, I'll show you the picture when we're done and you let me know what you think. But
Starting point is 01:00:40 I just remember looking at his hair in that season three, the pictures I've been posting. I'm like, something feels, it looks a little off on his hair. So yeah, what do you? I mean, yeah, just big respect. I like I'm sure I mean what little I know about Michael C. Hall
Starting point is 01:00:56 he certainly seems like somebody who loves performance. I mean he I didn't realize until watching this show like he's a singer he's done a lot of stage and musical theater and stuff like that and I got to imagine for somebody in that position you know you want
Starting point is 01:01:12 to have the distraction of your work and you know not in every scene but that's I'm sure something you can incorporate into your homework for your emotional portrayal of the character and whatnot in some fashion. Right. And yeah, just like, you know, the idea that this was at least percolating during season four
Starting point is 01:01:34 and, you know, chemo oncoming and then, you know, to go from, you know, going into chemo to then going into remission so quickly is a beautiful thing to hear because a lot of people aren't that lucky and it's really lovely when you, you know, when that is the case. so yeah i mean i'll be i'll be on the lookout during season five for how his hair changes again um but yeah like that's just you know an inspiring thing and yeah for him to you know receive this accolade during a time where he's also going through this struggle just has to do you know be a nice little fill up for your soul you know people are at least recognizing the work that you're doing and the passion that you're putting into it and uh and that's got to
Starting point is 01:02:16 give you a boost of you know just resilience and life force so uh yeah i think it's really beautiful and props to Michael C. Hall and I'm glad he's I hope he's you know continued you know I hope his remission stays as it is and that you know we have him for a good long while yet certainly he's back with Dexter and people seem to be very much enjoying that so yeah here's hoping there's more for years to come but yeah it seems like a lot of life you know every show is you know an amalgamation of people all banding together and you know it's a special kind of bond and community that forms around that no matter what scale this you know kind of thing is on but it certainly sounds as if there was a lot of life behind the scenes and you know a lot of you know both struggle and beauty that
Starting point is 01:03:03 went into it and i am fascinated to kind of learn more about how the marriage aspect you know like i'm sure at a certain point i think they get divorced and are probably still on the show together so that makes me curious they stay professional though um but yeah there's so much i i you know it's like what's on the screen what's in the show is you know the the show that's the text but like I am a person who often finds a lot of interest and inspiration in the human stories
Starting point is 01:03:30 around that and who made it and how and all that stuff oh yeah no some of the behind the scenes stuff can be my favorite like everyone who's top five favorite movies Jaws I find like the movie itself one of the best movies I've ever seen and I will stick by that the best movies of all the time I will stick
Starting point is 01:03:46 by that till the day I no longer have life in me but also the behind the scenes story of that movie is so damn intriguing as well so and the personalities and how they were like very enormous and uh and the egos and the clashing of uh personalities it's it's such and just like the trouble with the shark and blah blah just i always find behind the scenes stuff like that's just so fascinating so i just wanted to add to your point that i totally agree with you hell yeah dude well gang i think we got everybody in here let's do another 30 questions the twins can wait that's right that's right right now we gotta get you out to your to your twins i agree fuck albert chung albert chung gang thank you for joining us and for continuing to imbue our journey with your enthusiasm and just making helping to make this one of our favorite things here at the channel out of an embarrassment of riches of lovely things we get to check out um so yeah be well out there and we will catch you next week for season four episodes nine through 12 i can't believe we're already about to finish I don't want to finish it.
Starting point is 01:04:49 I just want to stay in season four the whole time. Well, and too, this is like a pinnacle. Everyone sort of, everyone agrees up to season four is the established Dexter lore. And so, yeah, like, it's weird. This is a show that is both, like, fun to binge. And I feel like doing it act by act of the season is an okay way to do a binge. Even if you're not, like, generally, I'm not the biggest fan of a binge because I like to be able to savor the thing and not feel like I ran through it and know it's gone.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Yeah. But this is a good balance of, like, getting to do a little bit of binge and then having the anticipation. And so for the next week, I'm just going to savor the anticipation. Yeah, and I will tell you this, even for shows that I binge and watch all the time, like Smallville Entourage, even the seasons I don't care for, I still got to, I still rewatch them too. So, you know, even if I'm not a fan, if you're not a fan of 5, 6, 7, or however in May there are, I got to imagine, unless they're terrible, that you probably rewatch them. But let us know in the comments without spoiling, of course, if you do rewatch them.
Starting point is 01:05:47 I'd love to hear about that. I'm excited for that stuff, because I feel like once you get out of the point where everybody agrees, then there's a new game that happens where you get to discover which of seasons 5 through 8 or whatever you like more than other people, maybe less or as little as other people. It's all about how much it connects with you and what it makes you feel. So, I mean, it's all subjective. For sure. Well, gang, thank you objectively for joining us.
Starting point is 01:06:12 If you joined us, if you're hearing this. and we'll catch you next week for the last four episodes of season four thank you again justice for lundee justice for lundy peace for now

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