The Reel Rejects - DEXTER SEASON 5 Episode 5 & 6 REVIEW!!

Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you to Shopify for sponsoring this video. More on them in just a bit. And without further ad-do, it's Dexter time. All right, it's Dexter episode five of season five. First Blood, here we go. Oh, my goodness, gracious, gang. We have done it again. I just want to hear him say to Peter Willer.

Starting point is 00:00:28 What are your prime directive? serve the public trust, protect the innocent, uphold the law. Yeah, clearly. And, you know, take a little cash under the table while you're at it. That's the robot cop I like to follow. You know, Paul Verhoven would definitely tell him to say that, okay? Okay, John, because that's what the Robocop would do, especially now in today's society. Of course.

Starting point is 00:00:49 Is Paul Verhoven like Russian? Russia, I think he's, where is he from, is he Dutch? Go look it up. I don't know. I need to know, actually. right now look up what paulverhoeven is all righty gang we have done it if you made it to this point in the video first of all a huge thank you to the folks over at perper for uh this season in particular i have to imagine is going to be quite a challenge to get visible on youtube so uh mightily

Starting point is 00:01:21 mightily appreciate their uh you know efforts their hard work and uh as well if you happen to be at this point in the video if you could leave a like and subscribe and when you subscribe hit that notification bell so you can be notified when the next batch of dexter episodes comes you're away and last but not least if you happen to be listening to this in podcast form on any podcast platform of your choosing leave us a little bit of a rating if you could andrew john we got a couple questions today but here at the end of the episode how are you feeling sir i'm feeling john i'm feeling some cathartic episodes here Even though we still have a resolve to get to when it comes to Lumen and Dexter. I really enjoyed these episodes. I'm liking this, I want to say, mentorship type of role that Dexter is feeling he needs to embrace when it comes to her. Kind of like Harry had to do when it came to Dexter of someone who was born in blood and had to train in the coat of Harry. And now Dexter is going to have to do that with Lumen.

Starting point is 00:02:28 Now, there's a different dynamic here, though, in terms of this was a mentorship of father and son. And now this is going to be a mentorship, what, at least how I'm interpreting it, I could be wrong as I usually am. It's more of a romantic type of mentorship as well as someone who's trying to get what? Really? I'm definitely feeling a romantic tension. Yes. Huh. Okay.

Starting point is 00:02:52 She was in the bathtub. She reminds her of Rita in certain ways. Yes, I'm definitely feeling romantic tension. in a way, and she's Julie style, she's really hot. Fascinating. Yes, I am fascinating. I know, John. Thanks for reminding me.

Starting point is 00:03:05 I appreciate you, affirming that. Yeah, so I think that that is going to happen. Could be, as I just pointed out, totally wrong. And if that happens, I'm totally fine with that as well. If it's just a, if there is no romantic thing that happens and it's just going to be a friendship type of mentorship, I think that will be as satisfying as well but I think she also just mentioned

Starting point is 00:03:33 about Owen and how she wanted more in life so I think Dexter could provide that hole in her heart that she never got when she thought she was going to get something more in Miami she found darkness and awfulness but there could be some light at the end of the tunnel when it comes to Dexter coming into her life it could be in the form of a mentor

Starting point is 00:03:58 and someone who's training her to contain the dark passenger and to get a cathartic feeling of we're going to get peace and relief here and I'm going to teach you to contain the beast even though it's been born but I think also as well it could be in a romantic sense so that is my thing and I think also we saw some other areas

Starting point is 00:04:21 that are very fascinating when it comes to dramatic tension obviously the tension is ramped up when we are talking about Quinn and Debra they are now officially official I don't know if they posted that on their Facebook but it looks like their lips and their words have made it official and it's only a matter of time

Starting point is 00:04:41 before Debra finds out that Robocop is trying to get Dexter on well at least on his dark passenger side that he's not who he says he is because he's too squeaky clean on paper like drug dealers right so once deborah finds out it's going to happen i would imagine at some point the next few episodes it's going to cause a little bit of a rift if not a big one in the relationship oh yeah so that's one thing this show does a great job

Starting point is 00:05:12 of is dramatic tension in relationships i feel and i'm very curious how that one's going to go because deborra as we have mentioned so many damn times she's very direct and but she's also very emotional. She's emotionally charged just in general, and she really cares about those she bonds with and to see someone that, and she wears her heart in her sleeves, not literally otherwise she stain a lot of her shirts,

Starting point is 00:05:41 but I will say that when she finds out that Quinn is onto her brother or attempting to, that's going to not feel good for the person that's supposed to be her partner. turn her actual partner, not her work partner, but her romantic partner is investigating or going after her brother. I can imagine she's not going to take kindly to that. So I'm very fascinated by the drama and the dramatic tension we're going to see as a result

Starting point is 00:06:12 of that. And then the angel and I know you're trying to get some words in here, John, I'm rifting here, buddy. There's just so much fascinating shit going on here. The Angel and La Guerta storyline as well is extremely interesting as well with non-communication, neither of them. Well, I guess Angel has been married before, but La Guerta is not. She's also someone who takes extreme pride on the work she does. So the fact that Angel's got a bit of an attitude because he also, like Deborah, wears his heart on his sleeve, he's got, he's very emotionally charged as well. And when someone talks about someone he cares about in a very negative way,

Starting point is 00:06:58 he doesn't take too kindly to that. And La Guerta, while she does come from a compassionate and loving place, she's also looking out for herself in that way. And I think in any strong, positive relationship, or I think the key to many, I think the key to a relationship succeeding is communication. And the fact that she was not feeling her feelings and communicating with him was the problem with why he had. Doesn't give him the right to snoop in her phone,

Starting point is 00:07:24 but because she was not communicating, I think led to the domino effect of him doing that. If she would have communicated with him, that wouldn't have happened, not justifying what he did, but that led to that. So this is all very fascinating. It makes for great TV.

Starting point is 00:07:37 And I'm really enjoying season five. So far, I believe we are at the halfway mark. If not, John, you can hit me over the head with a hammer. But I believe that's where we are right now. And I'm so far, I'm locked in. I'm very invested in this season. I think it's really interesting storytelling. I'm loving the exploration of the character so far, especially Lumen.

Starting point is 00:07:58 Crazy-ass storyline. Julia Stiles is acting her frickin' ass off. And I'm really enjoying it. Donald, how are you feeling, buddy? I'm feeling good. Yeah, I mean, this is, I'm feeling good. It's definitely like some really heavy subject matter and not that Dexter hasn't been throughout this whole time.

Starting point is 00:08:16 But, you know, the kind of violence that we are talking about by and large, especially via Lumen, but through other characters as well is, yeah, like among the harshest, nastiest kind of subject matters there are in life. And so it's been fascinating

Starting point is 00:08:34 to watch. And yeah, I'm really enjoying Julia Stiles and the way in which they have drawn her situation and this complex PTSD that she's experiencing frequently. And

Starting point is 00:08:50 you know the way in which there's so much about you know it's it's we've gone through this in culture even recently you know the the idea of you know these things that happen in closed rooms where there's not a lot of you know secondhand evidence to go off of aside from you know two people's accounts and so many things get lost there and you have that thing you know toward the end where they've got that dude tied up in you know the warehouse and he's pleading his case he's like i'm a dentist i have a wife and kids and and i think that scene was really nicely handled in that it allows you to kind of revel in the sad frustrating uh you know yeah heat of that kind of moment and the fact that yeah people can put up a very convincing front uh and for so

Starting point is 00:09:43 many women and victims in this position you know all you have to go on is your instincts and your you know sense and you know these sometimes less than concrete but still very sort of convincing you know details and and things it's just a fascinating thing and yeah he turns out to be everything that she said he was and so yeah that just rep i think they've drawn the sort of difficulty of the whole situation in a way that at least so far has been you know pretty decently observed and I think the debate between there's more stuff about Lumen so we'll get into that with the questions but I think the debate between her and Dexter has been a fascinating one and yeah very unique like I just love the way this show continues to seemingly react to what

Starting point is 00:10:34 came before every season's felt sort of different tonally and structurally and I also feel like they're good at you know continuing to have this feel like one long gestating unfolding story about Dexter and you know the people he runs into in the different situations and ways in which he finds to try and approximate you know regular human living all the stuff with juggling harrison wondering what he's passed down to him the stuff you know with leguerta and angel i thought has been nicely obviously they pitch it toward angel's perspective so that we have less reasons to believe that something horrible isn't happening here but i liked the way that that played out and played on our suspicions and whatnot and you know their whole resolve and yeah everything with the sting uh deb and quinn is a fun one is just a fun you know uh interesting dynamic to throw into the mix uh masuka getting to both uh indulge in his you know tattoo expertise as well as his kink expertise very funny love that for him uh yeah there's another couple of great episodes and uh and yeah very fascinating engrossing and interestingly observed from an emotional standpoint And I think that they're doing a good job of painting right now within the mess that a lot of the subject matter can represent.

Starting point is 00:11:53 But we got a couple of questions here that are going to take us to the depth of a lot of the biggest media stuff. Emma! Thank you for chiming in. Appreciate you very much. Another short one today. What do you guys think of the Deborah and Quinn relationship? Do you like it? Do you think it'll last?

Starting point is 00:12:15 or do you think Debra's relationships are all doomed to end brutally? Also, Masuka's description of the crime scene Dexter set up always makes me laugh. I adored that so much. You know what, Masuka describing anything makes me adore anything he was to say, but that was especially awesome. That was a gripping sequence. CIS Lee is great. I've never going to watch Cobra Kai the same way when we get to season six.

Starting point is 00:12:41 I'm like, just start making sexual innuendo. Those, what is it? Sung-young Lee or whatever, I can't remember his name right now. I'm such a bad karate kid fan right now. Kim Sung-young, thank you. God dang, what's wrong with him, spacing out. Do I like the Deborah Quinn relationship?

Starting point is 00:13:03 It's interesting. I like parts of it, and there's other parts. I think I'm so stuck, Donald and Emma. I really, I wanted Lundy and Deborah to last so bad. That's my favorite. that's my favorite relationship justice for luddy i know i know damn you christine hill i really am just nothing will ever beat that for me and when it comes to deborah emings and uh there are parts of this relationship i think like are wholesome and i think that they complete each other in areas i just

Starting point is 00:13:36 think there's too much they're they are partners in work so i think that makes for messiness and i know a and La Gwerta are in a relationship, or relationship, they're married. So it can work, but at the same point, I think it can get dicey, so I worry about that. And the elephant in the room, he's not going to stop investigating, Dexter. I think, not I think, I know that's going to make for a problem. So when you ask Emma, is it going to last, I don't believe. so I'm as usual I hope to be proven wrong because I I just want Deborah happy I feel like there's moments in time during the show where Deborah is happy but it doesn't always last very long

Starting point is 00:14:32 and that's what makes me sad for her character she she she gets Lundy yay no he leaves then she gets what's his name from Arrow yay yay lundi he's back no he's caught she just does Anton thank you she doesn't

Starting point is 00:14:51 yeah that did suck but the heart wants what it wants what it wants but point being is I

Starting point is 00:14:57 Deborah when it comes to relationships too as well she just doesn't get

Starting point is 00:15:02 to be happy it seems by any don't even get me started yeah so

Starting point is 00:15:08 this is a very tragic character when it comes to relationships I'm hoping it gets

Starting point is 00:15:13 to end in a happy fashion for them, but the fact that her partner is investigating our brother, I don't see that ending well personally, as much as I

Starting point is 00:15:23 would like it, because there's times where I really like aside from the relationship, there's times where I really like Quinn. There's times from like, he's a dirty cop in areas. He just cuts corners and he does shady shit. I understand why the system is kind of messed up, doesn't pay them well, etc.

Starting point is 00:15:40 But there's other times from like, I really like this guy. He's cool. And you know, he's the human tort. and he's on stranger things, so there's other things about him I admire. I just want Deborah happy, but I don't see it lasting between the two of them.

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Starting point is 00:17:09 Thank you again, Shopify, for helping us out of more ways than one. I mean, I think, yeah, the Debra Quinn, first of all, Masuka's description of the crime scene, A plus epic, and a really fun, like that was a really intense kind of culmination. Like, oh my God, so many moving pieces are all colliding right now, and Dexter is having trouble juggling. I like that they give him increasingly difficult things to juggle,

Starting point is 00:17:31 and this guy escapes, and he has this, like, sort of harrowing takedown, pulling him off into the shadows, and then quick thinking turns it into a way to, like, wrap all these loose ends up in a way that I thought was very fun. fun and very rewarding. But yeah, I like the Deverecuin relationship a lot. I think it's fun dramatically. I think Desmond, um, God, Harrington, uh, does a really nice job of, he feels like a real guy. Like I like everybody on the cast. I like, you know, the various flavors of characters.

Starting point is 00:18:03 Um, but, you know, to go from somebody like Dokes, who is a bit of a larger than life personality to this new guy. Like, he does feel more like an actual, I, not that I've met many actual detectives, but he just has this kind of like spontaneous demeanor and I don't know, the flavors and dimensions he's allowed to show and his like little asides, these just like little laughs or grins or things,

Starting point is 00:18:28 you know, that he does or these little intense looks. Just a lot of flavor there. So yeah, I like, you know, the kind of long gestation of this over time. They're sort of odd couple bickering and, you know, ultimately learning to trust him after all the internal affairs stuff from before then that comes back in a roundabout way

Starting point is 00:18:47 and then that pulls him. He's always kind of being pulled back and forth between being more of an ally versus being more of an adversary in terms of just the rest of the circumstances and certainly I think all the stuff with the Peter Weller character will add a new wrinkle, a new

Starting point is 00:19:02 wrench into all the things that are happening currently. I think they're really fun together obviously. I don't want him to find Dexter out. Obviously I'm dreading whatever conversation comes when Deborah finds about out about that but yeah I think he's really interesting and I like the combination of him with a lot of characters and I think that yeah he and Deborah in a lot of ways work but I can also see how this could be doomed and I guess at this moment am sort of worried about it and not optimistic about it in the long term but at the same time part of me is like maybe because I'm feeling that way this could last because you know certain characters where you're like oh good Deborah's finally found somebody who's good for her and who's reliable and whatever else and then things get in the way and after lundee obviously i don't know if the next person she meets is going to be the one or

Starting point is 00:19:53 anything like that but you know it seems like the slate has been wiped a little bit so i'm worried for deb very much so but uh i i hope that this one isn't as brutal i'm not sure honestly i imagine she might be in a position to walk away of her own accord rather than it being some kind of messed up circumstance out of her control but it's going to be a real big bummer because she's all about loyalty or largely, you know, values loyalty and for him to be investigating both a member

Starting point is 00:20:21 of our own team, not let alone my brother, that's not going to be a good convo. I mean, look how, to your point, I agree with you, and to your point, look how La Querta reacted when she found out he was investigating Dexter, and that's just a team

Starting point is 00:20:36 member, and that's not her brother. And she admires Dexter, but that's not her brother. Well, yeah, we're a family and internal affairs seems to be like an issue regard like it's it's it's an ugly conversation to have to have regardless whether you're trying not to involve them whether you're trying to involve them and after everything in the past with him and the internal affairs agent and deb from season three or whatever that was uh yeah it's interesting that now he is investigating one of his own you know and he's not wrong but he's not wrong that's that doesn't matter it's still brother so good drama yeah it is Christina. Hey, John and Andrew. Hey, Christina. How's it going?

Starting point is 00:21:17 I've been watching the Dexter reactions from the beginning, and I've been waiting until we got here to submit a question. Oh, so glad you've submitted. Thanks for time and it, finally. I remember season five getting so much flack when it came out with season four being such a big act to follow. I can imagine, yeah. I think this is great, but I would imagine when you follow the dark night, no matter how good it is, you know? We are following it.

Starting point is 00:21:39 I think it's great. I think it's great, too. Season 5 is personally one of my favorite seasons and Lumen is one of my favorite characters of the entire series. I know a lot of people who say this. I think as a woman,

Starting point is 00:21:52 I find Lumen's journey and wanting justice such a powerful message to watch. What do you think of the relationship that Dexter is forming with Lumen? Do you think Dexter helping Lumen will also help him? That's a great question.

Starting point is 00:22:05 Do you want to take this one? I love what they've set up here in a lot of ways. And I really appreciate you chiming in and sharing that. And yeah, I know, especially women in my life who watch this show seem to have an affinity for this season. And I could definitely 100% see why. And like I know people in my own life who have had experiences not too far, maybe not quite as like violently grisly as what we've glimpsed with Lumen, but certainly in the same ballpark of horrific as what she's experienced.

Starting point is 00:22:37 And, you know, being there throughout the time as they've coped with those things and the things that they've shared, you know, it's a tough thing to do to depict in a show like this without making it seem like a geek show and without, you know, treating it like some kind of pulp subject matter. And so, yeah, I really like what they're depicting here and that it seems like a really messy situation for Lumen. And it seems like a really hard, you know, emotionally anguished state. And you want this release. And that whole thing she's talking about at the end of the episode about, like, I feel this piece momentarily. And it's only going to last a little while. I know I've got to hunt the rest of these people down.

Starting point is 00:23:19 And there's, I have to imagine, a very cathartic thing happening for people who have lived through any shade of this kind of abuse, you know, watching a character, yeah, who is kind of taking up a crusade, you know. Not on behalf of them, but, you know, like in a way that resonates uniquely with a certain group of people. And, yeah, so far from my limited perspective, I like the way that they are representing both the difficulty of the entire position, trying to get people to believe you, trying to get people to help you, trying to get any kind of relief, justice, retribution. It's so freaking difficult. And I think for Dexter as a character, it's very interesting because it gives him a chance to, you know, he's had people influence him. he's had mentors he's a father now to be them the mentor to somebody um and also finding somebody

Starting point is 00:24:10 with like a truly righteous mission and as much like i i appreciate you at him trying to preserve her and not wanting her to get caught up into this web of death and and you know violence but at the same time you know they do seem potentially like a good match and again you know the worst kinds of people are the ones that they you know murder is bad there are lots of bad there are a lot of kinds of bad but this is arguably the worst you know is what we're kind of looking into here true true and uh yeah i'm fascinated yeah i've already mentioned what i think about this relationship but just going a little deeper into it i love what they're doing with her character i think the way she depicted of her experiences what she goes went has gone through julia styles again acting her

Starting point is 00:24:59 ass off phenomenal and tragic what i like not having seen it but like listening to her exposition was heart wrenching yeah terrible i could just in my mind i didn't want to see it but i could just based on what she was describing i think for dexter this is a fascinating thing because he's never going to get relief or he's never going to it this is somewhat cathartic for him but he's never going to get over what happened to Rita, obviously. But there's a little bit of self-healing here in that he feels guilt because, of course,

Starting point is 00:25:35 there were times he could have taken out the Trinity, but he had several opportunities to, and as a result of not doing it, Rita is now gone. He didn't know that was going to happen, of course, if he did, he would have done that. It was a domino effect. The point I'm trying to make is, I think the fact that he

Starting point is 00:25:53 can, not only as John just pointed out, he's setting someone up on a righteous mission for the wrongs that were done to her. I think that's all well and good. But I think also putting someone in a position of power to where they never have to feel helpless or be a victim as well, I think is amazing. That's what Rita was.

Starting point is 00:26:09 She was brutally, senselessly taken from life. And I got to imagine the Trinity did these awful things that happened to Lumen as well. On top of that, I'm pretty sure that's the insinuation. Not the same M.O., but certainly an intimate violation. Yeah, they were violating. They were naked in the bathtub. So I got to imagine awful things were happened on top of the cutting.

Starting point is 00:26:37 So my point being is that I'm sure if Dexter could have armed Rita to the teeth in terms of being prepared in this type of way to fight a guy like the Trinity, I know it would have been tough, but that would have, I know that would have helped matters and I've been awesome, but. Well, Rita is someone who's suffered a lot. lot of abuses and has had to overcome them and so yeah it's like in in accepting the idea of like i might kind of act as an avenging angel for someone like lumen sure symbolically you're kind of at least you know rita went through that and so there is a kind of symbolic connector

Starting point is 00:27:13 point there sure and again he's not going to get over whatever happened to rhea but i think this is a somewhat cathartic and self-feeling way to get over that as well as help another person so I think he's killing a few birds with one stone type of thing and I think this is such a meaningful and has so much emotional weight between the two of them and their relationship. So I really am digging it so far and I think it's beautiful

Starting point is 00:27:37 and there's a lot of just as I pointed out a lot of emotional weight so far throughout their interactions. And I also I like I think the way they're able to balance it out with some levity and some humor I think is really well done as well. Yeah and I really appreciate just the debate

Starting point is 00:27:53 of like I don't want you to move into this realm of killing and added whole new, you know, layer of darkness to your soul. But then also just this, you know, nagging sense that you'll never get relief and that whole PTSD attack at the airport. Like there's so many, yeah, like really evocative and really permeating things that they're playing with here. And I think the idea of him, you know, using his inclinations for this purpose is interesting. Because, you know, like with Miguel Prado, there's an echo of that where it's like, oh, we're going to take out these criminals. And here it's like, it's like, Like, we're going to take out these, yeah, even, like, yeah, again, the worst kinds of people, and I'm going to use this fixation, not solely selfishly, but for some kind of greater good. Miguel had trauma, for sure, from his dad, but he was a narcissist, and he did it for to further his career. And in that sense, where this woman has trauma and is doing it to heal. Yeah. So that's the difference.

Starting point is 00:28:49 But thank you so much, Christine, for your question. Jay Rush. What up, Jay? closing us out question boxers shorts are briefs for dexter what masuka was wearing that's what dexter needs to wear yeah there you go he needs a little cheetah print thong or whatever that was man thong i want to see dexter wearing that i feel like dexter's more of a boxer shorts guy between the boxer briefs but yeah we're going uh speedos for everybody then we got to have a competition yeah yeah there you go iron man competition yes all right gang this has been a tremendous uh season so far a tremendous couple of episodes loving this season so far so much i'm fascinated by what unfolds next i understand it had the the weight of having to follow the dark night or season four it's

Starting point is 00:29:37 not an easy task to do but i'm really enjoying it a great deal is it season four no but season five is terrific so far yeah absolutely i'm really enjoying it still really enjoying what they're going for really enjoying the guest stars curious about where peter weller and all that stuff's going Yeah, I'm loving this still. Going in a robotic suit after he did. Yeah, there you go. It's the secret Robocop origin story. I knew it.

Starting point is 00:30:01 He's going to go down under that bridge and just shoot every guy in the crotch. Yes. Look up that short if you haven't seen it yet. Oh, I got to see that now. Oh, yeah, it's wild. This effects team. Yeah, they took that scene and they extended it

Starting point is 00:30:13 and added a whole bunch of really specifically graphic imagery to it. And then after he shot them, he said to them all, you've suffered emotional shocks. I will notify a. crisis center yes anyway

Starting point is 00:30:26 thanks for joining thanks guys we'll catch you on the next one be well die die

The Reel Rejects - DEXTER SEASON 5 Episode 5 & 6 REVIEW!!

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