The Reel Rejects - DEXTER SEASON 5 Episode 9 & 10 REVIEW!!

Episode Date: December 9, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you to Shopify for sponsoring this video. More on them in just a bit. Let's do this thing. Oh, you are, my friend. Anyways, episode nine of season five, Texter, in three. Two, and a one. Wow, wow.
Starting point is 00:00:25 If you've made it at this point in the video, leave a like and hit that notification. bell subscribe to the channel so you can be notified on the next episode of dexter comes your way the next couple of episodes the end of season five no less God, I don't want it to end. It's so good. No, me neither. And thank you to Prepper. This is, you know, always a bit of a challenge to get visible on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:00:47 And, you know, this season is one of perhaps the most challenging in that regard. So I really appreciate their efforts on this. And, yeah, we're going to hop right into some thoughts. If you guys are listening in podcast form, please leave us a rating. Some quick thoughts before we hop into questions. How you feeling, brother? Yeah. They are tackling some very heavy, dreary things, and I think they're doing it with grace.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I think they are executing on it fantastically, and it's also very sad shit that really does happen in the world. And I think the idea of there are people out in the world that like to build themselves up by destroying and the destruction of others. so the fact that we are shining a light on it but also too the fact that even though you can you know in one light go through a very traumatic effect and feel like you know you are down in the depths you can still rebuild your I don't want to use the word rebrand but rebuild yourself up and I love that for not only Lumen
Starting point is 00:01:56 but for Dexter as well and they're through through each other and really finding that sense of doing that and whether that be through vengeance, whether that be through each other and I think that is such a beautiful sentiment that no matter how dark and deep we get in life, that we can always rebuild ourselves.
Starting point is 00:02:22 And I think that's just so cathartic and so well done. I myself, as I pointed out a few times, going through a very traumatic event of my own. I lost my best friend, the person I hold dearest to me in my life. And, you know, two scenarios that I laid in front of me, I could have either sunk to the bottom of the ocean,
Starting point is 00:02:46 the lake, the pool, whatever analogy you want to use, or I can stand with grace, encourage, face what I have to do, and just remember all the positive things my dad instilled in me and think of all the great memories and remember he's still right here every time I think of him
Starting point is 00:03:04 and he lives on through me through all the values he instilled in me and you know that's how I choose to through this traumatic event of course I'm not comparing my traumatic event to what Lumen went to she was physically assaulted
Starting point is 00:03:18 in a very disturbingly disgusting way and when it comes to Dexter his wife was albeit he was guilty in a sense of he let his eagre go get the best of him. He had many opportunities to take out the Trinity. Still, his wife was brutally and sadistically taken from him. But the fact still remains. We all go through traumatic events and there is a time in life where we get too dark and terrifying places to where can we go on,
Starting point is 00:03:51 will we ever rebound from this. And I think this season is showing we can. Having a very good supporting unit around us really helps us heal no doubt about it so i think that's very important for sure but also too you you have to have that that within you as well like nobody can force you to do it you have to not going to say the word take it but you have to you have to have to have that within you as well as having that support unit so i think that that's really good i know you said quick thoughts i've gotten a rant here this is very important to me man uh but yeah i i think this is a great I don't know why this is I don't know how this is going to end
Starting point is 00:04:28 but through 10 episodes I'm very emphatic about saying through 10 episodes I think this is right up there with seasons 1 through 4 so I don't know why it's not included by many who say it's seasons 1 through 4 and then it all downhill from there
Starting point is 00:04:45 this is just my subjective viewpoint but I think this season has been a flurry of emotions but it's been so incredibly executed the performances as per usual in amazing the ensemble as per usual and the storyline has just taken us to depths. I'm like, wow, I didn't know we'd go here, but executed so fantastically. Donald, what are your in 10 minutes, quick thoughts? Goodness. I mean, yeah, this has been a headful and heartful. This season has been very gripping,
Starting point is 00:05:16 very striking, and that continues here. I mean, you know, this is some of the most harsh subject matter you can deal with. And so, you know there's a tightrope that you walk in how to depict that and I think that for the most part they've done a really good job of you know anytime you depict this kind of violence on screen there is a discussion to be had about the worth in doing so and how much you're showing or not and I do appreciate that they've done a lot here to mainly leave it to your imagination I know we've seen flashes and images but yeah even just the sound of it is so horrific and yeah yeah And this is really dark material, certainly. It's not always entertaining in the traditional sense. However, this is something very real, and it does give an interesting dimension to the catharsis of what Dexter does. Because you're already, you know, in this fictional landscape, it's easy to be on board with Dexter when he's taking out vile murderers. But there's something especially, I think, sort of cathartic for people watching these particular kinds of, you know, evil doers.
Starting point is 00:06:24 being dispatched as they have been and yeah the progression of lumen on this you know confrontation and and attempted healing of trauma and then dexter going through his own trauma and finding yeah someone who can unlock his protective instincts and his you know willingness to put himself out there for somebody else uh you know for their well-being because it's the right thing to do because he cares i think it's just beautifully explored and yeah like you know the cat mouse games between Dexter and everybody else in the department have been very tense. Like I know I've been saying throughout this episode that I don't like it. I hate it, you know, in a good way. I mean, like, you know, that's me kind of expressing that I feel
Starting point is 00:07:04 tense because the stakes are hitting as they're supposed to hit. So, yeah, this, as we whittled down to the end of the season, I'm going to be sad to see this season go because I think this is definitely one of the top ones for me so far. It is for me too. And Julia Stiles is killing it, her relationship with Dexter, I think that's a really hard thing to do in terms of the romantic aspect, because a lot of people have been through stuff like this are not in that place for a very long time. Some are, everyone's different. And I think the way they've handled Lumen here feels very human and feels, yeah, very nuanced. And just the way that last scene unfolded where she's undressing him and sort of you can tell that she's kind of discovering
Starting point is 00:07:43 the feeling in the moment and sort of opening herself back up to a door that could have been closed forever due to this trauma. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, there's so much great stuff. Johnny Lee Miller is you know, horrific and great at playing this character. Frigin. Jordan Chase. Yeah, Jordan Chase. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:03 Peter Weller. I hate him, but he's really fun to watch. His performance is entertaining. And yeah, Deb and Quinn and all that stuff coming down to, you know, the wire and, you know, kind of being right on the edge of discovery. Yeah, it's fascinating to watch Quinn, too, because
Starting point is 00:08:19 you could tell his curiosity got the best of him when it came to dexter understandably so he is a cop at the end of the day but also love is changing him too because now he sees that he doesn't care anymore about dexter he cares more at least how i'm interpreting up to this point that he cares more about deb than finding out about dexter is what it seems to me well and he sees the cautionary tale of who um the peter weller character is yeah yeah i think because we met him in a place where we were curious about his own, you know, standing as a cop and, you know, he's got internal affairs looking at him. Is he dirty? What kind of dirty? And this guy is like dirty in a way, yeah, God, I should commit his name to memory, but the people. Liddy? Yeah, is dirty in the kind of way that, yeah, you don't want to become
Starting point is 00:09:04 or, you know, in a way that is definitely going to end you up probably sad and alone and maybe in a ditch somewhere. Yeah. And that's, and that's not where Quinn wants to be one day. So it is a cautionary till agreed with you love will conquer all let's go down that path not not the peter weller path i don't want to become robocop one day you know yeah but these these these yeah discovering these 13 girls and the you know back and forth between them and the cops and all the stuff developing just what the situation is i'm very curious to know about um uh uh the woman they went to what's her name emily burch emily burch can i ask you one question before we get to the question sure Do you now ship them?
Starting point is 00:09:48 Oh, sure. Oh, sure. I'm messing with you. I just, I've known enough people who have gone through stuff not quite to the degree that this is depicted, but who have been in this walk of life. And certainly not, I've definitely seen that sometimes at least you are not in that mode, especially when the trauma is fresh, but you might not be in that mode for a long time. But the way they've handled it here, I do, I do ship them now. It's really been earned and also, the only reason. I said that I had to get one up on you because you had Lundy and Deb from the gecko, which I give
Starting point is 00:10:20 you your credence and your credit for. But I called this one from early on just from the standpoint of what happened with Rita. And I feel like, you know, Dexter's protective instincts have been kicking in way more than normal after that whole scenario when he saw a blonde woman. It has nothing to do with her hair color, but just another woman who like was in a situation where she couldn't protect herself and like okay I couldn't protect Rita and now I got to take care and protect this woman as well and help her heal as well
Starting point is 00:10:50 as myself and like this is like a match made in heaven for me so I think this is again so I love their relationship so much and he can really truly be his full real self around or you can be the dark passenger and be himself and they can share that together they can take
Starting point is 00:11:06 out the trash together and it is interesting that she does look like Rita like it's more happenstantial it's not like you know the guys that you know abducted her clearly have a type right but it's like kind of a weird compliment to be like oh you i could see why you know people be like oh you're trying to replace rita and even though that's very much not the case she just came into his life he wasn't looking for her no totally it's just interesting and then yeah for asked her to show up and be like oh and then the baby to go mama mom yeah but anyway we got a little a few more
Starting point is 00:11:37 minutes here let's get into some questions hawk kicking us off skimming some of the details of season five to refresh my memory. I think I might have to move it up to my second favorite season. Understandable. I think Dexter's close calls with his own department is one of the best aspects of the series, and I would agree. What is one of your favorite aspects of the series so far? I can't wait for you guys to see
Starting point is 00:11:56 how this season ends. Of this series or the season? Either or, I suppose. I mean, I think they're really good at handling in short. Yeah, like the close calls between him and the department, that's an aspect you have to sell because you have to make the police seem competent enough that they don't feel
Starting point is 00:12:12 bumbling, but also you have to demonstrate that while they are competent, Dexter is even more cunning. So I do appreciate that across the show. I think one of my favorite aspects has to be Deb. I just mentioned it so many times how emotional she can be, how she always wears her heart in her sleeve.
Starting point is 00:12:28 When she found out the man that she really believed she was worried that she might be in love with because of the last few relationships she's had, how poorly or badly or tragically they have ended. Yeah. Yeah, I literally just described everything with Biny, what's a diggle from Arrow, and also with Lundy.
Starting point is 00:12:47 That's a perfect way to describe how they all ended. But also, too, like, she found out the man that she's supposed to be loving her, right? Her partner. We're supposed to be honest and communicate about everything. You're sneaking around and snooping about my brother and all this, that he could be, what's his name, Kyle? Butler. Butler and all this. So it's like, you just feel bad for her at the same point,
Starting point is 00:13:13 even though he was on the right path. Yeah. You know, he's not wrong. But at the same point, and like, is Deb ever going to find true love? It could be Quinn. I don't know. But like, from her perspective, when she doesn't have all the context of who Dexter really is, you know, will she ever in her heart and in her mind find the right one?
Starting point is 00:13:32 But at the same point, I love how, like, she is fearless she is. How direct she is. She's never afraid to stand up for people that she loves. She will literally run through fire, or walk through fire, rather, or walk through water, whatever analogy you want to use. She will stand up for people she loves. And she will also walk away from people who walk all over people she loves. And I appreciate that about her.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I think one last thing, and I'll let you get to, because I know we've got to get to these other questions. I think, like, the way they are able to stand the line between the more. moral gray area, not everything is so black and white. Like with LaGuarda, she's really been, I'm going to speak for you a little bit. She's been frustrating, both of us, you know, a great amount. But I'm glad she somewhat came to her senses when it came to reopening the case. Well, also too. And then, and then I did appreciate the whole thing of like, I did a couple of these things
Starting point is 00:14:26 for you and I couldn't tell you that. She had some accountability, which I appreciate, even though she's been pretty shitty the last couple episodes, I appreciated some accountability. and then I get the moral gray area of like hey a lot of this too is politics I'm trying to keep the department together and it's not as all black and white as the Andrews out there are complaining
Starting point is 00:14:45 about even though I've done some shitty stuff I do recognize that so I get that so John will take it away yeah there's so much I love about what they do on the show I mean I really love that each I didn't expect and I really appreciate that each season feels like it's just expanding on and reacting to
Starting point is 00:15:05 to what Dexter's gone through in the past. I didn't expect this to be quite such a serial journey of this guy. And every season has been very distinct, but has been a next to me chapter in the growth of Dexter on screen anyway. And I really love... His relationship with Aster, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:23 And we're going to get to that in some of the other questions. But like, I really love that. And I really love how they are able to really maximize and uniquely each time integrate guest stars. That's another really fun thing every season. You get a new, either single or in this case, multiple guest stars. And they're always good at making the dynamics there feel a little bit different, but very unique. And everyone they've hired so far has been terrific.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So, I mean, there are a bunch of examples I could pull through. I also love Miami as a setting. But, yeah, there's so much great in this show. And I love, yeah, the way they explore the darkness and this perceived lack of emotion in a very emotional and, you know, nuanced way. along with all the pulp and the horror and stuff. I love Los Angeles, has Miami as a stand-in as well. The music man, the freaking opening credits.
Starting point is 00:16:14 There's so much great stuff here. All right, Vampire Toad. Thank you for chiming in. We got a few from you. We're going to get to as much as possible. And I'll read a couple things off from you before we get out of here. But yeah, episode 10.
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Starting point is 00:17:51 Once again, that's Shopify.com slash real rejects. Thank you again, Shopify for allowing us to fulfill something we didn't think was possible. Is so special to me. Lumen is healing and Dexter is maybe the most gentle we've ever seen him. do you like lumen and dexter we are short on time and i have already expounded upon it so much so i'll let john do this one yeah no i love it i really do i think julia styles has been terrific as just a performer on her own but i feel like yeah the i wouldn't have guessed a shipping being possible at the start of the season and by the time that we're recording this now i do see that and and i can see how something
Starting point is 00:18:29 very sweet and beautiful could grow out of such pain and suffering uh and And yeah, just the way this whole episode went down and the debate about whether or not she should be allowed to, you know, do the kill and, you know, them realizing that, yeah, it's like she can be empowered by Dexter because he's able to offer her a unique way of confronting this that nobody, very few people ever actually get. And then she is able to validate his dark passenger in, you know, the pursuit of that. and yeah there's something very it's like it's like a lila but not because like she's able lila was able to recognize an amplified dexter but in a bad way in a toxic way whereas lumen seems like she's able to kind of ground him and she clearly has a moral compass and a strong conviction but is also yeah she betters him whereas lylos is he can be himself yeah yeah and also i i think i'm gonna expand i'm gonna deepen this a little bit i'm very curious about
Starting point is 00:19:32 about Deborah and Lumen because Deborah is going to find out. I'm very convinced of it. Just I've watched enough movies and TV shows to know how this shit works. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But Deborah is going to find out. I think she's going to be totally fine with learning about Lumen because this holds a lot of waiter. It's very meaningful how these women were what happened to them. I can't actually use the word.
Starting point is 00:19:56 It's disgusting. But I think Deborah is going to be the fact that there is a woman out there, a vigilante, doing these things. She's going to be cool with when she finds out about Dexter that she's been lied to her whole. I think she's not going to have a problem that Dexter's doing what he's doing. It's the fact that he lied about it. That's where she's going to draw a line and not be too happy about it. But we'll see what happens. I feel like she'd be bad. I mean, unless it's only this in isolation, but I still feel like there would be a lot better. But I think there's going to be a fascinating and interesting dynamic at the minimum between Deborah and Lumen. I think
Starting point is 00:20:31 there's going to be very much a mutual respect. There's going to be quite a rift, I would imagine. Just from the lie, Deborah does not take kindly to lying in any way. And she's also going to find out her father lied to her this whole time while training. I mean, she's already found out about a panful of his lies. No, I know, but now it's an even bigger lie. So we'll see what happens. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Absolutely. Emma! Dexter. hey guys hope you are enjoying this season mightily so what do you think about aster's behavior and how dexter handled it do you think he would have been able to get through to her like that a few seasons ago or do you think dexter has grown can't wait to see you guys reactions and hope you're having thank you Emma it's not a dexter review if you are not here to ask us a question so we appreciate
Starting point is 00:21:19 you so much what do we think about astor's behavior was we talked about in real time her behavior is completely understandable after the traumatic event that unfolded with her mother, so she's just lashing out in frustration and in sadness and in tragedy, totally, totally normal, unfortunately, for her. She's alone and she's isolated. So even though she's got a friend like Olivia and all that to try to, as best as she can, not forget about what happened, but to self-heal. And Dexter's all she has when it comes to a parent. She's got her grandparents, of course, but Dexter is all she's got. So when you ask, though, would Dexter have been able to get through to her a few seasons ago?
Starting point is 00:22:05 He was still coming into his own when it comes to emotionally, having that emotional intelligence and being able to read the room. So I don't know if a few seasons ago he would have been able to do that. I really feel like through this whole event of what happened with Rita and then through Lumen, he's really grown a lot through, you know, just his humanity and really learning to as from Dexter's own words, becoming a better listener and I know Dexter's always been a listener he's been very socially awkward is most of his life but like really listening and caring
Starting point is 00:22:40 about what other people have to say and Astor is his daughter so I think that Dexter was really there for her in this case and I loved what he did to that piece of crap therey not only for what's her name for Olivia but
Starting point is 00:22:55 just for anybody who's been through that I think they could watch that thing go God, I wish there was someone like Dexter to be there to save me from a situation like that. I'm sure, like, that's a cathartic thing to see. But, yeah, I think Dexter just did an incredible job. And also the fact that he said, like, I'm not going to tell your grandparents if you ever do it again. But, like, he was there for her in the moment. He told her what she needed to hear and he was present.
Starting point is 00:23:21 He was reaffirming what he was letting her feel her feelings while also being present. And I think, like, in the past, I don't know if Dexter would have done that or had the no. the note you know had the sense to know what to say or what to do there so I think that was really incredible of him I think that was very sweet and he's really coming along very well as as a father yeah yeah you said it all I mean I think that I really like I get what's going on with Astor and that can be kind of I don't know sometimes people write that in a way that isn't as believable or that's more kind of like annoying or whatever but I don't feel that about Aster in this case and yeah I feel like the difficulty of her relationship with Dexter has been nicely drawn and this was a really touching kind of yeah difficult situation that turned into a chance for healing and a chance for bonding and I really liked that yeah Dexter to your question I think yeah this this was kind of a combination of things I think what he's been going through with Lumen has awakened something in him that yeah as he said as Harry pointed out you know you're more willing to put yourself out there for someone that you care about. I didn't know you had that
Starting point is 00:24:31 in the in you in doing this for loom and i imagine in a small way he is able to do this for astor and olivia because he's unlocked that part of himself but there's also i think just the right opportunity of like oh yeah this guy is a piece of shit and he needs to learn a lesson and this is a lesson i am well versed to give out you know i'm well uh within my you know uh abilities to give out so yeah uh i think the stuff that they did especially in this episode was really great And I really love the drama and the nuance of that. And, yeah, by the time they got her back, both, Olivia's completely changed demeanor and, you know, them opening up the door for healing. And, you know, why don't you come in and see Cody and bring in Harrison and all that?
Starting point is 00:25:12 Like, I thought that was really touching, really sweet. All right. Speed round, here we go, finishing us up today. Jay Rush. What up, Jay? Question. Who's your favorite guest star in Dexter for this current season? Peter Weller.
Starting point is 00:25:25 He's so good. He's so conniving. he's an opportunist but it's such an entertaining performance and he's so versatile in a way I never thought Peter Weller it could get to I've only seen him in Star Trek and darkness and of course my favorite one of my favorite sci-fi 80s films of all time Robocop and I loved him in Robocop too as well so he's spectacular his performance in this John watch friggin' bucker bonsai
Starting point is 00:25:47 dude I mean yeah it's Lumen is terrific I think I think Julia Stiles has been killing it I mean she's you know the the soul of this season so many ways for fun yeah if not her because i feel like you know i feel like she's gonna be a regular too peter well are so much fun to watch but they're all great i mean you johnny lee miller has been great he's been very good too yeah all the guests have been really really solid he's been taking the opportunity to be on this show well all right vampire toad we got a little bit of a speed run because uh you know i appreciate your feedback but uh but yeah we do got some thick boys from you uh we still do have a big bad as per usual how are you feeling about the
Starting point is 00:26:26 case and the tension on the police force side of things compared to previous seasons. I know it's hard to compete with the Trinity Killer for most viewers. No, I like this a lot. I mean, they constantly do, I think, a nice job of, you know, making the police investigation and Dexter's own solo endeavors, you know, a kind of muck and mire of like close calls. And I mean, that's currently happening here. And I think this season, it has been quite striking the way that the Miami Metro has been able to, yeah, open these threads and get in the way of Dexter's, machinations and all that stuff. Yeah, look, following Heath Ledger's The Joker was never going to be an easy task, or rather the Trinity in this, in this scenario. So I think they have done it with
Starting point is 00:27:05 prestige, and I really hate this character. He's a slime ball, but he, the fact that he is willing to build himself up while destroying others, and, you know, he really thinks that he is above all. He's above the law. Those are my favorite kind of villains to watch Fall. So I think this is, I think the storyline with his character has been so fascinating to watch unfold and progress throughout the season. I like that they went away from the approach that they did with the Trinity, whereas we saw the character in the first five minutes, and then we slowly peeled the layers with his character, and then in this one, it was like vice versa. We met him a little later on the season, then slowly peeled the layers. Yeah, and you're getting like this ring of people that are
Starting point is 00:27:47 surrounding him, and he's in a unique position as this guru of sorts. It's very fascinating to his M.O. and just what he does and he's not even getting into the muck of it, but he's making these guys do it. Even his friends. It's fascinating stuff. It really is. Truly. Vampire Toke goes on to say, how do you see the season ending? I think some of the best writing happens in this season. Two of my all-time favorite lines happen in the next two episodes. I'll be sure to point them out when they come around. I can't wait, Vampire Toe. I have no idea how it's going to end. I'm just going to say that. I do not know how it's going to
Starting point is 00:28:18 I will tell you what John and I is one of our favorite lines. I got started. No! Yes. One of our favorite lines. I think Deborah's going to find out about Dexter and Lumen. That's happening. It's happening, John. Ship it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:33 All right. I think Jordan Chase is going to die. I don't think that's much of a stretch to say that. Peter Weller is going to die. I think Quinn's going to kill him. I think Vince is going to get laid. I don't know what else. I'll just stick with the...
Starting point is 00:28:52 Oh, and I think. that Dexter is going to give Aster an iPod and also going to text her and say Lumen and I are no longer tenants and friends. Other than that, I don't know. Yeah, I think Jordan Chase will get taken down somehow. I think Peter Weller's got to go.
Starting point is 00:29:07 I don't know about anything else beyond that. Yeah, and I all say that I think that Lumen's going to be abducted at some point, whether it be the finale episode, and maybe Dexter in a possible sacrificial way, he's not obviously going to die in those more seasons, but maybe
Starting point is 00:29:23 the possibility of giving his life to save someone that he loves, he's not going to let someone that he cares about so much have their life taken. But then love will prevail, John. And they will take down Jordan Chase or Debra will help them take him down. We'll see. I don't know. Well, I like how they're representing.
Starting point is 00:29:39 I mean, to your point here, just to cap us off, I'm going to finish kind of your comment here. Because you've said, you know, people find Lumen a bit of a contentious character. You ask about how we're finding her relationship with Dexter. And, you know, you've said here,
Starting point is 00:29:53 you know, I think she's by far one of the best characters in the show, and their relationship has been so satisfying, has helping her do an act revenge, is something I'm sure many people like myself who have been through this vicious trauma have wished for in one way or another, and I know people who have echoed the sentiment. And to that end, I think she has been a wonderful, so far, you know, emotional representation of both the sadness and the hurt and the anger, but also you can see the person inside of Lumen, the person who existed before all this stuff happened. And so, yeah, especially at the end. Like, this is a season where I'm like, yeah, you know, I wasn't expecting them to have any kind of romance. And by the end with her, that last scene was so impactful. Because again, just hearing secondhand some people's experiences. Dude, her innocence was ripped from her. Yeah. And her life was forever changed.
Starting point is 00:30:42 And he's given her something, this opportunity that she chose, you know, to take it back. And, yeah, and then this intimacy that has grown between them so gradually. over the season. By the time we get to that end scene, and like I said, she's sort of like crunching it in her head and you can see her kind of, yeah, at first undressing him, but keeping him restrained, fully letting her him, fully observing, kind of letting her take the lead was a really beautiful representation of that moment and something that some people are able to do, some people aren't able to do, but I'm sure is really cathartic to behold in a, you know, situation in a show, in a piece like this. And I do appreciate them. And I know, again,
Starting point is 00:31:19 a lot of people who have had this experience, especially, who cite this season as a favorite, and it's definitely one of, it's the most impactful to me so far in a lot of ways. It's definitely the most emotional season. Besides like the stamp ending, season season, season for season, as a whole,
Starting point is 00:31:35 it's probably the most emotional season thus far through 10 episodes, I would say. Yeah, it's been terrific. So guys, leave us your thoughts. I wish we could talk longer, but there are other shoots that got to come in. Sorry, guys. Appreciate your love.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Appreciate your support. Appreciate your thoughts. and we will chat with you on the next one. Season finale next week. I cannot wait. Thank you guys. We'll catch you soon. Peace.
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