The Reel Rejects - DOCTOR SLEEP (2019) CHILLED US TO THE BONE!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:01:08 Do you have anything to tell the people Andrew before we get started With our patron questions I have so much to tell the people But I'm going to do it when we answer the questions But I could also do some quick thoughts What do you think? What should we do? I'm going to you're the host

Starting point is 00:01:22 You tell me to her Go ahead give them your quick thoughts I thought this was such an incredible sequel It really as I pointed out in real time during the reaction it pays homage and respect it does what a good sequel should always do Tara it pays respect and homage to the original

Starting point is 00:01:39 while still doing its own thing and not feeling like it is doing a shot for shot recreation I know that's more reboot and all that but still like it really I could have watched this movie and had no idea if I had not even seen The Shining like oh yeah this is part of the Shining

Starting point is 00:01:57 it just felt like it's a own thing. Yeah. And I really, and I thought the storyline was really satisfying to watch while the exploration of the characters was fascinating in its own right, like watching the trauma of Danny from the original film, that kid's life would be, it makes sense where when we start the film that this man is an alcoholic, he's got severe PTSD and he's got crazy amount of trauma from what he, not only what his dad tried to do to him, but the crazy shit he

Starting point is 00:02:26 saw in that hotel as well as just having the clairvoyancy or the shine as well so i thought that the exploration of his character was the way we work throughout the film and the way his character is able to have an arc and a purpose i thought was so masterfully done i don't want to get too much because i want to answer the questions and then i thought rebecca ferguson was incredible performance she was extremely sadistic she was extremely scary and she did a phenomenal job of giving the threat level you want to feel in an antagonist when you watch that type of character while also like being mesmerizing at the same point in terms of their performance like you don't like the character but you understand perspective on the why why is she doing this she has a niche for it I guess or niche whatever you want to say and also because this is allowing her to live a lot longer so makes total sense from her perspective and I love the character of Abra, not only from the power level. I love how stoic and confident and courageous

Starting point is 00:03:32 and the strength she provides throughout the film. Like, never once wincing or being scared. Like, such an incredibly grounded character. This was awesome. And I loved her chemistry and her interactions with Danny. It was so incredible to watch as well. So, yeah, really incredible film. I really didn't know what to expect

Starting point is 00:03:54 because the shining is you know this is recency bias that's one of my favorite reactions on this channel it might be top 10 favorite horror films and this is right up this is this was incredible I really really loved it but do you have quick thoughts

Starting point is 00:04:10 definitely a great film about like pain trauma healing that's like at the depth of this we didn't see a lot of healing in the first one they paid a great homage to it but also it's really great pacing for a three hour movie I don't say that about a lot of films and this was three hours

Starting point is 00:04:26 and like five minutes. Still very engaging just like the first one you know two hours flies by this one they still did a really really good job with you didn't really feel the time and that's I think the biggest task is that if you're going to give us a cut

Starting point is 00:04:42 that's three hours it better not feel that way and I don't think that it did so I think they did a good job. Let's go to our first question. Jaden Rhodes I love this movie even as amazing as older Danny Torrance. What I really find is is that Mike Flynn again told Stephen King before making this movie, he was going to try

Starting point is 00:04:58 to make it a blend of a sequel to the movie and the book, which I think was the best move they could do. But I'm curious, do you all think this movie is on par with the Shining, or do you all think this, do you all think that the other one out shines? Also, Rebecca Ferguson puts it

Starting point is 00:05:14 all in, puts in an all-timer villain performance. I mean, we just mentioned, or I just mentioned it. I think the shining is only seen it. once, of course, recently here is one of the greatest horror films I've ever seen, the psychologicalness of this, of that film, and the performance from Jack Nicholson is one of the best performances I've ever seen from anyone.

Starting point is 00:05:38 That was amazing. And Shelley Duvall, she was amazing in that film, the score, the direction by Stanley Kubrick, the acting from the little boy who played Danny. I think it was Danny Lloyd, was the actor's name. Everything in that film is pretty much perfect. And when you talk about a horror film building up suspense, this one was amazing too. I don't want to play the comparison which one was better. I just think they really ebb and flow beautifully together.

Starting point is 00:06:04 I think this is a perfect sequel, seriously, in terms of, as I just pointed out, that it's doing its own thing while respecting the first one. And it's still a very competently made film that you could literally isolate it on its own, not have it have anything to do with that. the first one and it's just a great film and i think that's the beauty of this film it's got great performances from all the actors the visual effects are scary as hell when they're like turning into dust into smoke and then they you know suck up all the the soul the the the the soul juice or whatever the hell it's called there's so many great different facets of layers that's going on in this film so i and i think terrell also said it best it's a three-hour film i did not feel any drag at all i was immersed and engaged

Starting point is 00:06:52 the entire time. And if you can do that on a three-hour movie, because I've watched movies that have been an hour and a half long, and I'm like, this feels like four hours. So pacing is such a very important thing. And you can tell this was deliberate that they wanted this to be three hours long because they had a story to tell. They had characters to explore. And they did not let one minute of frame go to waste. Everything was important that they needed to show. And the pacing was beautiful in this film. What about you? I think it's definitely on par with the shining. I'm not sure because you're mentioning that they said they're going to bring in the book in the movie. Since I haven't read the book, I don't know what parts obviously that were added. If they were, you know, any parts that I do think that we saw, they were added in the right way because they didn't like drag it timewise, which is a plus. So I would be curious to see, you know, what if Stephen King even had thoughts of like,

Starting point is 00:07:48 if he liked it or not. or whatnot because we do know that he you know he very much hated the first film um flanagan is not i don't think you know flanagan would be like oh all hail stephen king and let's make him happy i think he's just saying hey i'm going to pay like homage tribute to the book as well as the first film i think he did a great job um obviously ferguson does do a really great villain job she's she's she's a badass so not surprised amazing all right from jay Hi, Tara and Andrew. By the way, thank you for being a Royal Reject, Jane, for asking a question.

Starting point is 00:08:23 We appreciate you. Hi, Tara and Andrew. Hi, Jay. Do you think Dr. Sleep works better as a story about healing from trauma or as a battle between light and darkness? I always felt Danny's gift wasn't just The Shining. It was his burden and his redemption. What do you think the film was really about at its core, Tara? Oh, you could go ahead.

Starting point is 00:08:41 Take it. I think it's both. It's definitely about healing after the events of the first film. And we see at the very beginning, Danny is a drunk. He's dealing with trauma, and he then, when he goes to the hospice care, he finds his purpose in helping those who are literally about to pass away, who are alone and are very scared to die in their last moments. He's showing them comfortness and happiness in their final moments. And this is about healing and redemption for him. And also, too, his own mother was so scared to be around him, not because she was afraid of him, of course.

Starting point is 00:09:17 He did nothing wrong, but just the look in his eyes. reminded him of his father and what his father tried to do to them. And that's awful for a child to have to grow up after the experience that they already had gone through. And then you talk about the light and the darkness, like, it's ingrained in him. Yes, he's got the shine in him. He's also got a bit of his dad in him, too, and he's got to keep that darkness out of him. And I think that scene where he was in the bar with his dad in the shining in the gold room, excuse me. I think was such a beautiful symbolic representation of Danny being the light and able to always keep the darkness.

Starting point is 00:09:58 Even though there were times where the darkness somewhat crept in when he was drunk and all that, he's always been able to keep more of the light within him. I think the film is definitely both to me. What about you? This episode is brought to you by prize picks. The app that made me finally understand my wife's obsession with fantasy sports. She's been obsessed with fantasy sports the entire time I've known her. And I'll be honest, I would sometimes zone out whenever she would talk stats.

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Starting point is 00:12:01 like regardless of the shining, everyone is fighting something and specifically our lead character in this movie really does show us the healing part and how he really did overcome it. Luckily, we saw him get to almost breaking two times, and he chose not to, which is great. Obviously, yeah, straight up to AA recovery, but that's just like a symbol for really anyone choosing to move on from a burden that may be hard to tackle in life, whether or not you have the shining or if you're a medium in life, which most people are not, we're just human. So I think it, you know, at the core of this, this is a great horror film that's paying much to the Shining and adding another story on top of that. But I do think it's highlighting, you know, pain and trauma and also how do we come out of that?

Starting point is 00:12:59 And to see that in a lead character that's had a lot of trauma is nice. It gives people hope. Definitely. Mark Leach. I love this movie. I may be the minority, but I actually prefer it to The Shining. I'm curious about your opinions. My question is, are any horror film sequels

Starting point is 00:13:14 that you think either are as good, if not better, than the original. Mark, I don't think that is like a crazy thing to make. The Shining is one of the most hailed, you know, proclaimed horror films of all time. But, dude, it's all subjective. You're allowed to have whatever opinion of yours that you want, so I'm glad you express that.

Starting point is 00:13:34 I think it's an amazing film, so you have every right to feel that way. In regards to what is one of the best horror film sequels, I'm just trying to think. Now, I think Scream has, all the Scream franchise has had a slew of amazing. I think both, just about all of them are pretty incredible. I don't really hate any of them, to be quite honest. You can say, okay, this one's a little bit weaker than that one.

Starting point is 00:13:57 I think Scream 1 is my favorite. Hands down. Have you guys done the Scream Friends? So I won't say any, I won't say any spoilers. I'm just going to talk about numbers and what I like. I will say Scream One is my favorite. by far but i think scream two it's not it's not as beloved to me as the first one but it's pretty damn close i think it's a phenomenal sequel it plays on the tropes of the first one in a good way and

Starting point is 00:14:24 once again like i pointed out in this film does a lot of great shit on its own as well and i freaking love screaming too so much it's by far my second favorite and i think it's a phenomenal sequel so i would probably just off the top of my head without thinking about other horror sequels I'd go with Scream, too. So I'm sure at this point, if you guys haven't checked out the podcast with me and Roxy, where we rank all the Halloween movies, you will see that we did rank 2018's Halloween over the first one. So, you know, there's, there's, and when we were discussing it, we were like, yeah, we feel

Starting point is 00:15:03 like on a daily basis, this might change. which it probably would if we're, you know, constantly rewatching the movies, but we're not. We just watched all 13 for the first time. So we just landed in certain places after, you know, discussing it and really just basing it off how we felt. I do think that this movie, like I already said before, it's good pacing, had a great tone, paid really great homage to it. The fact that the hotel and all of the similarities bringing back the older characters, I think that that's why it's not surprising if there's more people like you, Mark Leach that are like, oh, I prefer this one over the original one because I don't think

Starting point is 00:15:46 that it's like, oh, holy actual shite, that's so different. It's like, no, they're both really great films. I do think that because of the original aspect of the shining, that I would maybe put that one first, but I probably have to rewatch to actually let you know. And then I would also say just really quickly, I would also say Nightmare in Elm Street 3, the Dream Warriors, I love that movie. West Craven's

Starting point is 00:16:15 New Nightmare, sorry, we're sticking with Freddie Krueger films here. I think those two films are incredible sequels. I know the West Craven's New Nightmare is more meta than an actual Freddy Krueger film, but still Freddie Krueger. Those two are great. All right, from

Starting point is 00:16:31 Jay Rushdon. What up, Jay? question. What is your take on the director's cut and the flashback there? I'm guessing the flashbacks and the fact. I don't know the differences between the thing is we didn't watch the theatrical. We only watched the director's cut. We don't really have a lot of insight to that. I would say next time, Jay, if you know the differences, let us know and say, hey, what was, you know, you're watching the directors. If you didn't see the theatrical, here's what they added. And then we would be able to to let you know. Craig Smith, would Aaron or Tara stay the winter in a hotel, either by themselves or the family? I think you mean Andrew. Andrew, you're handsome, says Craig. Tara, you're beautiful. Appreciate you. Love you guys.

Starting point is 00:17:17 Keep it the good work. High five. Hugs to everyone for me. Okay. He probably met from me. Okay. In that, and I also assume you meant in that hotel. That specific hotel?

Starting point is 00:17:33 I assume that what he, that's what he means. Hell no. Yeah. Hell no. That hotel with all those ghosts and shit, hell no. With that old lady in the bathtub, nope, nope, not doing it. Yeah. Hell no.

Starting point is 00:17:49 And if I'm going to stay in a winter hotel, I'm pot that it doesn't have ghosts and spirits. How long are we talking about, Craig? I need more specifics here because that I'll do. That's not haunted or shit. But I need specifics on times because if we're talking October 31st to May 4th or 5th? Nope. What about you?

Starting point is 00:18:07 You did just ask if we would stay in a hotel in the winter, and yes, I would. Would I stay at that specific hotel, which is what I think you meant? No. How about not that specific hotel, but a different one that's not haunted from October 31st to May 4th or 5th, and you get one or two of your friends, yes or no? For eight months, don't. Nope. Jay, Director Mike Flynn again actually recreated the entire overlook set from scratch,

Starting point is 00:18:32 making Stanley Coopers is shining using original blueprints and frame-by-frame references. Actors Rebecca Ferguson, who played Rose the Hat, trained in meditation and breathwork to help her stay calm while filming the psychic battle scene. She said it helped her channel Rose's stillness before the storm. The movie includes a blink and you miss it cameo of Danny Lloyd, the original Danny Torrance from The Shining, 1980. He plays a spectator at the baseball game. His first on-screen appearance in nearly 40 years. Oh, the baseball game is, okay, next time. Later on tonight, when I get back home,

Starting point is 00:19:09 I'm going to just check out that scene on YouTube or something, and I'm going to see who he was on that scene. Is it for sure confirmed that that kid was Elliot who played Jack Torrance? I can look it up, but, yeah, I'm pretty positive. You're probably right, because there were moments I'm like he looks like Elliot, even though I haven't seen that film, like 32, 33 years. Right. I could probably re-react.

Starting point is 00:19:31 because I don't remember much other than the moon being in the background, but thank you for the trivia, Jay. We appreciate you. All right, last one here for the trivia from Craig Smith. At the end of The Shining Novel, which came out in 1977, the hotel is destroyed by a boiler explosion, something that the Shining film omitted. Also, one of many things Stephen King did not like about the film. Stephen King co-wrote the screenplay for Dr. Sleep. I imagine that's why the explosion was included in the movie. Thank you for sharing that, Craig. I got to imagine if he co-wrote this film, he probably liked a lot more than The Shining is my guest, Tara. Yeah, I was right. Henry Thomas. You did, you did real good.

Starting point is 00:20:19 Just in case you guys are like, I don't call anything. I literally looked at it for two seconds, and I was like, that's the guy for me, T. So, you're welcome. Tara, you did great. Hold on. I want to look up one thing. Do you have anything else to add before we close this up?

Starting point is 00:20:34 This was obviously a great film. I'm happy to see that trivia. I guess like Stephen King's like, finally I get my parts of my book in here, which is great. I like the explosion in the movie. So yeah, I loved it. I think they did a great job with this film.

Starting point is 00:20:52 Absolutely. Agree. This is a phenomenal sequel. So critics, I think, are like 80. And the audience is probably like an, 84 she is good today very close so you said 80 and 84 it was 78 and 89 you were really close on both 89 is great yeah that's very good I'm glad that you that a lot of people like this film good stuff yeah you have any last thoughts before we get out of here just incredible sequel what a follow-up I'm interested to know the the scenes that they recreated from the original with the different actors like I get the ones that are are the new scenes, of course, where they use the different actors, that I probably get. Yeah, yeah, you mean the

Starting point is 00:21:35 recreation. Yeah, but the old scenes, I'm curious why they didn't just use stock footage. I'm wonder if that's like, I'm just curious what happened there, why they weren't allowed, is it a rights thing? They're not allowed to or they just, we're just going to use the actors so just it feels like more contemporary

Starting point is 00:21:51 with the present time that we're in with these actors. So I'm just curious. It's also coloring, like matching the shots. Yeah, I get that. I get it, but I'm just interested. I don't know. He's probably written somewhere. Yeah. So we can find out.

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The Reel Rejects - DOCTOR SLEEP (2019) CHILLED US TO THE BONE!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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