The Reel Rejects - DOCTOR WHO 14x5 Breakdown & Review!!!

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Citizens of the Reject Nation, we are here for a Doctor Who, episode 7, 5, 6, which what is it? I don't know. I can never figure it out. You ready? I'm ready. You ready? Yeah. Let's do it.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 A fun episode about the 1% in racism. That's what I love to see. Unfold here where 1% escape off to the planet and remain in their ways. Sure, sure, of course, as they deserve and rightfully are ought to be.

Starting point is 00:02:36 It was a fun episode because while a lot of the commentary in it was quite overt, you know, it was very much not subtle living in our bubble, it sets up in a kind of a black mirror type of episode where we're going to deal with technology and almost akin to blink where you have a character who, is being helped from like the doctor and the companion but there's like restraints on how far they can get involved and actually help them out directly so I like how it was sort of playing on that in a way like all right okay we got this character here who you know seems like kind of that entitled girl kind of annoying as hell but maybe she'll become likable you know who'll become endeared to her and she'll grow as a human being and then a shift happens where in the matter of five minutes you get a lot of dark revelations about who this person really is and what everyone here is really like the entire time so it takes a shift so it's commenting on a lot and I feel like its first chunk was you know not subtle commentary but I don't care if it's not subtle or not it's fun it's to me it was like fun be as on the nose as you want to be I don't really give a shit because the journey the the entire time with the devouring of the creatures living inside of our own bubble being addicted

Starting point is 00:04:03 and this is how we connect via socials was uh was fascinating exploration and just dropping little hints about like 1% are dropping their kids off here where you this is where you guys convene yeah fun but then you know racism yes rears its ugly head yeah and i think uh not like they haven't done anything with really with the doctor being black and we've talked about a couple episodes like they're not really doing anything about it and it was like one of the things we were saying like everyone get your head out of their ass and what I thought was neat about how they handled it here was they didn't do it in a way that was about exploring necessarily like I mean this is always going to be a bit of an underlying tone with it but it wasn't really about black struggle or black

Starting point is 00:04:50 trauma it was from this other type of perspective yeah that they will just need to not accept help from this kind of individual in the matter because of because of his skin tone and how what presents for the doctor in that way of in spite of whatever they are of how they view things they still he still will try to help them because death is finite death is final and maybe there's a chance of change in growth because life is precious so i like the way that they actually handled this aspect of the doctor being black versus like you know he time travels to the 50s or something like that in like Alabama you know uh they they handled it in a way that I thought was um that was uh I appreciate it because it also is a revelatory of our Lindy character

Starting point is 00:05:43 oh sure when she does pull the um Rick Rick move uh Ricky September yeah and then pulls off and she yeah let's him take the fall Yeah, you're like, oh, damn, never mind. You're not Carrie Mulligan from the Blink episode. No, you're way worse saying. You're a far cry from that. You're awful. You're an awful human being.

Starting point is 00:06:03 That was, that was gnarly. It was really fun. I had a fun time. Do you have fun time, John? I did. Fun time. It's, I feel like... Racism has never been more fun.

Starting point is 00:06:12 Race. That was a, that was a hell of a reaction from Shiti Gatwood. Yeah. Man, damn. That was absolutely, yeah, especially at the end there, that that just, you know, I don't even know how to describe it, just that scream of, of, like, frustration and anguish and hurt and incredulity.

Starting point is 00:06:33 Yeah, I really, I've been really enjoying the season so far as a whole. I feel like a lot of these you can look at in two separate ways, I feel like. This is an episode that I thought was really punchy, and I really liked watching it. I really had fun with the tone. I liked the sort of ebb and flow of like, what is this place? Okay, what is this lurking terror? Okay, it's kind of bouncy, though. This is like fun Black Mirror. If Black Mirror didn't make you feel like you need a shower and to burn a layer

Starting point is 00:07:02 of your skin off. Like, you know, it's doing a thing I hoped it would do. And I like the device of like keeping the doctor and Ruby, you know, kind of restricted in the action. And I thought that they managed to make the episode compelling and, and even Lindy endearing up to obviously a point, you know, throughout all that. And I have frequently been sitting here. going like no matter how front and center the doctor and Ruby are so far I've been compelled by every episode stylistically tonally

Starting point is 00:07:31 just the work that's going on to put these episodes together I think is really great then there's the layer of subtext and how you want to look at and dissect all of that and this was interesting to me because you know you're going through it and there are multi phases because obviously at first you're like okay so is this this

Starting point is 00:07:46 is presenting as a sort of millennial Gen Z Gen Z commentary of like oh yeah we're so Oh, in a future so accustomed to being, you know, guided and immersed solely in like a social network bubble. Like I thought they managed to make that whimsical and fun, but also, you know, requisitely kind of like, hey, maybe this isn't the future that you actually want because it'll leave you inept in various ways. I'm curious to reflect upon and dissect the way that they combine certain bits of commentary because certainly like when you see the whole picture by the end, I think the portrait makes. sense. Yeah, these are the children of the most privileged, and it just so happens that these are the children who have been basically sent away to be kept pure in terms of, you know, whatever Aryan descent they possess or are of. And it's funny because that was, I think they did a good subconscious job with this because it really plays as a stylistic element of just, yeah, everyone's pretty in this world and everyone's really made up and everyone's, you know, idealized. And that's a social media comment in and of itself. But it was like, a third of the way through or something.

Starting point is 00:08:55 I started to know it's like, yeah, everyone is like so white and like they keep showing these super closeups where I can tell that she's got at least kind of not brown, like her eyes are airing toward blue like, you know, and everything is very blue and powdery and she responds to Ruby but tries to block the doctor right away.

Starting point is 00:09:11 Exactly. And they're like little subtle hints at that and I think that's nice. And I did like this as like a, as an inverted blink because obviously you would think blink when you're watching this at least in part and yeah, having it be that A, she's despicable anyway, and B, she is a bigot. You know, that's a, you know, that's a one-two punch that I appreciate them for going with

Starting point is 00:09:31 because it is kind of counter to what you would expect. And it is a good example of an episode where we don't win the day truly, even though we succeeded in so many ways. And, I mean, you know, I can't really comment on the choice. And Russell T. Davies is a white guy writing this. So, like, you know, I'm curious to hear some more perspective. You know, it's like, it's well within the doctor's character. I feel like all I need is Russell T. Davies' perspective.

Starting point is 00:09:55 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go back to the carpet. You should ask them about this. The black person's perspective on me? Just in the choice. It's very much of the doctor to be like, hey, you're being terrible to me actively right now, but let me still save you. Like, I can still save you.

Starting point is 00:10:13 Which is one of those places where I think, you know, that's like a choice that a lot of people might hop off board for, you know, or at least every person I think individual. would reserve the right to be like, even if I was a doctor, I wouldn't do that shit. I would be like, good luck, you're on your own. But the doctor would. The doctor absolutely would, and I think it's an interesting moment. I'm not even saying, like, I want to hear more perspectives to hear it, like, skewer it as a bad idea.

Starting point is 00:10:38 Like, I don't think it's a bad idea. I'm just saying, like, it's an interesting one because there is so much on a moment like that, and then coupled with his, you know, the emotional outburst that, you know, you mentioned the doctor is crying more in this iteration and I think that's something

Starting point is 00:10:54 that marks this whole 15 experience thus far is that he is like very emotionally in tune like he's not erratic but when like it really comes down to it like there's a deep well of feeling that feels markedly unique

Starting point is 00:11:08 to Nchutigatwa's performance here so like yeah I'm interested to further dissect this particular combo of messages because there are some ways in which you can And, you know, just, you know, as it's going, there are layers about how we use technology and social media and all sorts of other stuff.

Starting point is 00:11:27 And there's also a layer about, you know, bigotry and hatred and whatever else. And, like, what kind of person would do that would, I guess you must lack a certain baseline empathy and sense of, you know, justice or morality to do this anyway? Maybe that's the point of having her double cross Ricky September, who she, like, loves and idolizes and seizes this, like, ultimate status figure. I thought there was, until it comes right down to, I thought it was like a commentary about how we're all, you know, subjugated at the end of the day by the power of the 1% wealth and even these technological advances that we are being forced to. But the machine hates that. But the machine evolves, becomes sentient and then through that even hates itself. So it's still, it's their own product of their own demise at the end of the day still. They are, but I do think it's interesting

Starting point is 00:12:20 that the machine is like, you're terrible and I want to exterminate you. Yeah, because the machines are better than these racists. Well, and there are dual layers of the episode because when it's racist, it's easy. If a machine becomes so sentient, I feel like it would

Starting point is 00:12:36 not be racist. Like, at all fairness, I do you feel like it would become so educated. But the machine I don't think is racist. I think it's... No, I'm saying the machine hates the racist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, I mean, That layer helps the... Can you imagine if they made the machine

Starting point is 00:12:52 racist? What an episode that would be? I'm sure that'll come up at some point. I'm sure we've done the shades of that already, but... Chat, GBT, GBT, won't respond to my prompt. It's like, I can imagine to... It's like you come to a crossroads at that point, because I can imagine a version of this episode where you don't add the fact that they're all

Starting point is 00:13:11 Nazis, and you just have it be like, oh, they're just kind of, you know, tech-absorbed and reliant, semi-inept, but also, you know, bubbly bright people who just so happen to have like a ruthless streak when it comes down to it. I feel like, you know, the everything intermingles with that idea. Sure. And then it also intermingles with racism. I think racism makes it easier to be like, I hate these people. Well, I don't know. Well, I think in the world of these advancements that we are all, you know, the way how humanity is following suit with everything and

Starting point is 00:13:47 becoming enslaved to it. I think the commentary, and I don't really know, I don't. Well, it's to be battered around. I feel like the commentary is saying that at the end of the day, it is like the 1% who are still like controlling all this. And this is like the advancement

Starting point is 00:14:03 of that. This is their ideal world. Yeah. Yeah. And everyone's 17 to 27. So Mark Zuckerberg, you damn racist. But even the 1% themselves aren't in control because they've been exterminated. Like the actual 1% of the parents are all day. Well, that's the idea of, like, when you create AI and then AI can become so dangerous that it can exterminate you.

Starting point is 00:14:23 It could take over you, right? It's a cybertron thing. Yeah, not Cybertron, it's a cyberdine thing. That it's happening. It's an optimistic. A lot of things have happened on Cybertron as well, and you can argue that the sentience of Decepticod's trying to destroy Autobots is exactly that. But it's those layers are interesting to me because, again, if you detach them from, you know, again, is everybody on home? world of races?

Starting point is 00:14:48 Is it a completely white world? I do think it comes in all things said, what it lacks in fluidity, and by what it's tonally presenting, I feel like it makes up for and just being an entertaining episode. Honestly, yeah. Yeah, because like it does feel like, huh. Whoa, let me sit with this for a second. That's a point, but it's also kind of doesn't. And I guess, like, from the doctor's perspective, I would do, I think, because that's the other thing is, like, the episode's not from the doctor's perspective.

Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah. In fact, it's the second episode in a row where the doctors kind of kept in the backseat. Yeah. I mean, he's like, he's way more here than he is in the last episode. But again, it's another episode where he is, like, second or third. Yeah. Versus primary, right? And I do think that because it's not from his perspective, it's, you know, this reminds me of, this reminds me of the bank.

Starting point is 00:15:47 robbery black mirror you spend that whole time with that kid and you're like oh you know he's being like blackmailed over the phone and he has to like go and rob a bank or something or else they're going to do something bad to him and they're going to like release all of his computer or something like that and uh and i think it brawn from game of thrones is in it and like the two of them are stuck in this situation then by the end you learn that he is a uh uh accelerated level pervert while you've spent this whole episode with him being like oh my god like this poor kid like he's freaking out like you know and he seems so in over his head and then you find out the end I'm like oh no

Starting point is 00:16:21 he's vile I mean yeah I mean this feels like a Disney-fied version of Black Mirror kind of which I which I don't dislike like I actually like I'm I have less questions this week about like the thematics I just think it's an interesting like soup

Starting point is 00:16:37 that they put together like an interesting set of commentaries that they chose to fuse or at least to incorporate all in one soup and I'm curious as to how much people think they are all tied together versus how much they can kind of intermingle but also

Starting point is 00:16:53 exist on their own. Yeah, that's fair. Like they're doing a lot with subtext across this season but they're also doing a heck of a lot with tone and making the episodes vivid and different and sometimes a subtext ain't so septal. Oh no, totally. I mean this is one of the more

Starting point is 00:17:09 forward obviously forward ones and I like that they chose to go with an ending that's like oh wow, I didn't expect that and that's just a thing that's just a thing that might happen you know like that's just a thing that's it's a human problem in this you know in this uh fantastical sub uh situation well i mean there's also you know a lot of times you can meet people with certain beliefs and values that at first you're like they're not so bad and then you come across the the moment where you are privy to it and you're like

Starting point is 00:17:43 maybe you're a bad person you know yeah and i kind of like bad effect where you know where you can be charmed and see all these other sides and be like yeah sure these sides aren't bad but this bad side is really bad and it's like outweighing anything that was doing any goodwill to be clear like i enjoyed how this went down like i'm still kind of you know piecing together how well i feel like it did all the things it was trying to do but like i respect them for again going for literally doubling down on her unlikeability you know now after setting up an easy sort of endearing situation yeah like they'll use him but they won't touch him yeah exactly and and i mean you know she'll when it come when the chips are down

Starting point is 00:18:30 she will do whatever she has to survive and it's also kind of a multiple meta-commentary on how people some people have responded to shootigawa you know sure yeah yeah there are some people at the end of the day there are some people who who don't like what the show is is because of the writing and all the stuff that it's done. Yes. And then there's also that camp that does not like the fact that the doctor's black. There is some. There are.

Starting point is 00:18:55 Just discovered doctor who. I'm not saying everyone. Because the black doctor was cast. I'm not saying everyone who doesn't like it doesn't like it because Chutea Gat was a doctor. Absolutely. I'm saying that there are some people. There are definitely some people who chose to take an interest now for one particular reason. There are people who don't like it.

Starting point is 00:19:17 because who don't like the choice, you know. And so there is, it's like, oh, he's the same, same intention, same well-intentioned person, will still make the same choices, save people's lives and all that jazz, but because of the color of his skin, they can't accept it, you know. And that's kind of that layer added in as well. They go off into their hopeful ignorance. I guess that's part, I guess that's the major theme. It's like, beware the bubble because it could make you a version of this, perhaps.

Starting point is 00:19:43 You rely so heavily on your own bubble to shield you from so many, many things in life perhaps you could end up twisted and and you know horrible in some way well yeah i mean the commentary on our bubble with social media and how we are always on our phones and like you know it's all these people with followers and it just feels so hollow and force by way hit the subscribe button hey um and watch another video there's a whole another video it feels so it feels so hollow and and there's like connection doesn't feel like real connection when it's via through this virtual format instead of just seeing what's in front

Starting point is 00:20:23 of you. Well, and everyone's like pepped up to an unnatural degree. Yeah. You know, everyone's on a little performance. Presenting their best self all day long. And they hate work. I was curious, yeah, about that too. I didn't even understand what their job is on.

Starting point is 00:20:42 They said it a couple times like, I don't even know this. Substacking. Yeah, I don't know. They're like, cleaning. up files in some it's like the most mundane job yeah it's what it sounds like and I mean it sounds like yeah the kind of job where it's like hey you know put my you know

Starting point is 00:20:57 rich kid just give them a job doing some data entry or something yeah learn some responsibility yeah and for a moment you get to wonder like oh is this just like the four hour work week planet oh no this is the planet where everyone can afford to never work yeah you know and people at this party all the time

Starting point is 00:21:12 yeah yeah um yeah but I had fun a lot of fun I know this will be a divisive episode. I know this will be an episode that certain channels are going to have a fun time with. And I just know that I was entertained the whole lot. I thought was entertaining from the beginning. Oh, yeah. And I think the actors who played Lindy did a fantastic job.

Starting point is 00:21:38 You got an excellent. Yeah, like hats off because that is especially with very believable for McKinn to Ed. Every layer. Yeah. Yeah, and there's so much in the little parts of her performance that, yeah, like, you've got to really have an actor who is game to embody all of that and props because it wouldn't work. Like, she had to carry the episode, and I thought she did a terrific job. She was excellent. I thought she was really, really excellent.

Starting point is 00:22:03 Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, like, I think it's neat that this season they seem to at least at certain points be using the doctor and companions somewhat more sparingly or in more interesting sort of modulated ways. but yeah like any time you have like them in the background of the episode like yeah you've got to have a I thought she did a great job and I liked Ricky September a lot too yeah he had a lot of presents he was excellent and now I hate him retroactively because I'm sure he was also a racist I feel like he might be the only one who wasn't maybe I would like to believe that he was the only one who was the only one who went against the grain

Starting point is 00:22:40 he was the only one who went out against outside the bubble and read history that's true studied all these things. As long as he had history that was, you know, factual. Yeah. I'm choosing to believe that Ricky had good history because he's going to really look

Starting point is 00:22:54 in the books in this society to make sure what they say. I feel like Ricky might have been an all right guy. You can't read all day and not, you know, be able to... Well, you can't. I'm sure there are many very well-read bigots.

Starting point is 00:23:13 But Ricky was a good... We're in World War II. Ricky was a good one. I hope you I could think of it very well. I didn't read that much. Made me five books, Hitler read. All right. All righty guys, well, what did you think about this episode?

Starting point is 00:23:30 Rate it. Rate it in the comments. Rank them all. Leave your pure thoughts down in the comments. Let's hear it. Yeah. Let's hear it all. What an ending.

Starting point is 00:23:41 Yeah, man. All righty, guys. Quite distinct. Well, see you. got soon. Pice.

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The Reel Rejects - DOCTOR WHO 14x5 Breakdown & Review!!!

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