The Reel Rejects - DOCTOR WHO 14x7 Breakdown & REVIEW!!!!

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Starting point is 00:01:38 That was cool. That was legit. Well done. So the granddaughter of the doctor is Sutec? Yep. That's what I took away from this. No red herrings here, G. Wow.

Starting point is 00:02:01 I predicted all that. You did. You did. You saw it coming. Nailed it. It's about time we were Egyptian with Dr. Hood. Holy shit. That was crazy. That was very fun episode.

Starting point is 00:02:12 It was very. That was like very Ghostbusters-y type of supernatural aske era. Yeah. It's the whole vibe of it. It felt like 80s horror. Yeah. And I like that, you know, like going back to that whole thing with David Tennant and the whole, you know, like, we're at the edge of the universe and like superstitions are starting to bleed in. And like, it's not been the biggest.

Starting point is 00:02:30 most in-your-face flavor of this season, but I feel like there has been more of that, like, eerie, slightly more supernatural-feeling quality to certain things, as it to culminate that? There's been so much more supernatural. Okay. This season is 100% supernatural. Certainly.

Starting point is 00:02:46 I mean, flat-out said it. Even Kate Stewart says, like, we have a supernatural department. Well, no, here, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying, like, across the season there have still been classic things that aren't, you know. Dean and San Winchester. They're going to show up any minute now. They're in unit USA.

Starting point is 00:03:02 Doc! Who? But yeah, like to culminate, I think they've incorporated the supernatural elements nicely, because again, it hasn't felt as though the season, the show has just switched to being like supernatural, but Doctor Who. But it does feel like, oh, yeah, there's now like a new facet of the world that exists.

Starting point is 00:03:25 And then to culminate the season here with something that, yeah, feels so dreadful and so supernatural and so like prophetic in the ways that like you know revelations and ancient myths are and stuff like that like all the monologuing at the end of just like i am the terror i am the loss i am the darkness like it's ghostbusters it is ghostbusters it's a scientist trying to fight ghosts you know you know fair enough he's going to catch him inside the sonic screw driver we're watching right now he's got to build a proton pack out of old tartis parts it's Ghostbusters 2 is what I'm feeling. Yeah, where's the portrait?

Starting point is 00:04:02 Ors Vigo, the Carpathian. That was great. I was really hooked into that. That was an awesome episode. It was tense. It was taught. I was like enjoying both storylines, and somehow this has to connect, even though they were seeming like two very different

Starting point is 00:04:20 mysteries to unpack. You're not really sure how they're tied together. Still not really sure how they're tied together, honestly. They have not fully made that clear, but they're obviously tethered in some way. Yeah. Because they're each affecting one another. But the way they let that unfold

Starting point is 00:04:36 and like the mystery behind it, like there's still so many questions that need to be answered. Like who exactly, Susan Tardis is, what's her name? Susan. Susan. Travis. Travis. Uh, Travis Scott. Uh, her name is Susan. Susan B.

Starting point is 00:04:50 Arthur. Yeah. Susan Flut. Susan Twist. Uh, Startis. Tartis. That's the TARDIS. I can want to say TARD. Travis?

Starting point is 00:05:02 Triad. Triad. There we go. Susan Triad. There we go. We got there. We got there eventually. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:08 It's the wrong anagram. Well, I'm sorry. I would have never predicted suit tick. Sue Tick. Was it on the lookout for, oh, it's Tuteck. And is that a new name? Like, would you have? I'm going to look it up, Mother F.

Starting point is 00:05:20 If it's a new character, no one could have. But yeah, I wonder if any, like, very astute, like, deep cut. Because, like, it does. For a second, I thought it was going to be that, uh, uh, the OG, like, Cyberman. It was, I thought, I was like, oh, shit, we're doing it. Yeah, totally. The way they designed. It looked like Night King in that.

Starting point is 00:05:38 Sure, absolutely. And, uh, and the one guy, the, like, half human cyber man and all that stuff. The original one. Um, yeah, like, I, I wonder, because it does seem also like, at least, especially teasing us with the doctor's granddaughter. Like, it seems like they've been more apt. And not that they didn't do this when they revitalized the series the first time. but you know to like dig back into the classic canon i feel like maybe yeah he's from the classic canon there we go cool he's from uh so it's here fourth doctor oh damn is that what sarah is

Starting point is 00:06:09 hey is that uh tom baker doctor i feel like people really love that era in particular was that tom tom baker and uh and uh and uh sarah jane chronicles should have been able to put together man, people are screaming at their YouTube's during that whole end like idiots, it's obviously going to be Sue 10. Why aren't you getting this? I mean, is there

Starting point is 00:06:39 like other, let me look this up, I want to know. I'll be watching Who Culture anyway, so I imagine I'll find out what, I want to make sure I got that right. Shouts out to Who Culture. What episode is Sue Tech. Can you spell that? S-U-T-E-K-H I think. In Doctor Who

Starting point is 00:06:56 from let's just find out because yeah what martin landau is the toy maker toy master in like one episode like way back at the beginning yeah the episode the pyramids of mars the original series oh cool pyramids of mars i mean and it does look like martian egyptian okay cool very much like a yeah like a newbis or something like i don't know why this uh this villain's so bad as i don't even know what's like going on exactly with um what do you call it Susan Susan Triad

Starting point is 00:07:30 Why she's still like spanning time Yeah You know And I mean It's interesting To have that prospect too Of like we have Susan Triad And we have Ruby also

Starting point is 00:07:40 Who both seem like Some timey whimy Hinky stuff exists around them And they're coming closer together But we also haven't had them like Exactly I mean they've been close But they haven't like

Starting point is 00:07:55 She's back at at unit while all this is happening so they haven't actually like met in the same room and so i feel like maybe there's something there that could happen um and and two i like that we've been sitting here this whole time and they could still make it uh susan the granddaughter i forget what her last name is now um be arthur susan b arthur is susan b anthony uh but uh i appreciated that they've had us sitting here going like oh maybe whoever ruby's mom is is you know the daughter of his granddaughters and like that, you know, maybe, you know, they're linked in that way and maybe, yeah, whoever this woman is who's appearing, if the doctor's granddaughter, Time Lord, maybe she's appearing all throughout time in some kind of way. And stuff like that can still happen, but it feels like we got here and it was like, oh, no, it's something else entirely. And that's kind of fun, especially because, like, I wouldn't be dissatisfied if there was some kind of reveal along those lines. But at least sitting here now, I'm like, oh, sweet. Like, it wasn't the thing that we've been sitting here wondering about the whole time. No Dr. Tears is time.

Starting point is 00:08:59 No Dr. Tears. He almost. Almost. I thought at the end he was going to, I thought we were going to get another teary doctor. I thought in the hallway. I thought at the very end. About the very end at least. His eyes are wide. This is the moment.

Starting point is 00:09:08 He should have cried for the soldier guy. Yeah, that whole thing was so tense. I love that. Will they call that time window? Time window. Yeah, that time window stuff was really cool. What a cheat code to try to bypass crossing the timeline streams. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:22 A smart way of doing it. I really enjoyed that a whole sequence. And I think just like this I like the inclusion of the new characters I even like the little 13 year old boy Yeah dude Morris Gibbons was the G was a legend Yeah Yeah well you get like a little person to play that role

Starting point is 00:09:38 So they just got a 13 year old Or it's a little person playing a 13 year old Or it's a little person 13 year old Who's just grown very quickly Yeah they had like a fun Almost like slightly Terry Gilliam-esque like group in the yeah in unit i mean you know obviously we know kate but yeah like they had like just the right amount of

Starting point is 00:10:00 quirk to everybody to where they were all interesting but then when like a reveal comes around then we have another harbinger which did they name that character fully did we just miss like them saying like oh her name's you know harriet arbinger she said harriet arbinger the first time we met her and we just missed that she said harriet and i mean said Harriet, it kept bugging at my head because I was like, why does that stand out? Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like, I love that too. And, uh, and, and I like this as a facet of like, oh, like we're meeting, you know, it's up to them to space them out and to make sure the stakes always stay on point. But yeah, it's like we've had the toy maker. We've had the

Starting point is 00:10:39 maestro and then hearing of all these other, you know, primordial God beings that exist out there, ostensibly meeting the worst of them now, you know, but like, yeah, like the transition into that. Like, I really loved the way the tone of this episode operated because it started out, as you pointed out a couple times, like, it was so fun, it's so upbeat and so kind of exciting. And I feel like they really nicely transition. Like, once you get to the time window and things start transitioning, like, it's such a nice gradual shift to like, okay, this is starting to feel a little intense. Oh, wait, things are starting to actually feel kind of sinister. Oh, wait, this is really ramping up. but now we've got like a whole situation

Starting point is 00:11:20 that feels like some kind of grand conspiracy and the doctor's over here and we're back at unit and there's like simultaneous things coming to a head and I barely had time to like think about it and when they got to the end

Starting point is 00:11:34 I thought it was like the perfect kind of little cliffhanger to do like the rare Doctor Who to be continued you know because it's already the climax of this moment but there's still so much more left to do and it didn't feel like it needed

Starting point is 00:11:46 any more or less time than it had I loved having Ruby's mom at least involved with some of it just as like a character. Claire Reis. Black mom. Black mom. Carla, there we go.

Starting point is 00:12:03 There we go. And I mean, not that she was doing the most there, but little flourishes like that. She was there to say the original mom's crying. They gave her a necessary line. None of them have that. None of the women.

Starting point is 00:12:19 They're all married to their work. None of them could see. This woman's probably crying. How many of these women a unit are going home to a family guy? You know, I feel like you give that up. That's why the companions are all here because they don't have anybody to do that with. We can't settle down after the worlds they've seen. But I'm very excited for whatever comes out.

Starting point is 00:12:45 Like, I'm, it's a- Donna's daughter. Donna's daughter was here too Rose young Rosie Was here Killing the game Helping out being on the show One problem with the episode

Starting point is 00:12:55 They kept shoving their pronouns And their trans rights And gayness down my throat This whole episode Yeah The LGBTQIA plus agenda Just could not let its chokehold On this episode go

Starting point is 00:13:08 The fact that they had to change The unit logo Into the pride colors I thought that was too much Yes Too much shoving it down my throat Yeah, they are, you know.

Starting point is 00:13:18 And then when the doctor made out with that one soldier and the thing just to make sure he wasn't dead, I was like, is it too much. Yeah, and all the bananas he was eating. Yeah, just constantly. It's like every scene. A banana, a popsicle, a hot dog. Like, stop it, guys. Stop it, dude. And all these, like, strong, independent women who are all answering to another woman, like, jeez.

Starting point is 00:13:41 They're all kind of older, too. Yeah, all the old's they shoved in my face this episode. We got a grandma, we got Mrs. Flood, we got Susan Triad, we got Kate Lethred Stewart. Speaking to Mrs. Flood, again, her, she knows something. She's, yeah, I'm like, she's in on it. And, too, I'm like, okay, so she's not a harbinger, but is she like some kind of, yeah, familiar to these things or some kind of primordial something or else? You know what I would love. She seems like some type of entity of sorts.

Starting point is 00:14:11 She seems, yeah, to at least know. Like, she positioned herself to be right next to Ruby. She must recognize, like, the extreme amount of uniqueness that, like, just apparently radiates off of Ruby Sunday. This was called, like, the, what was this episode? The Legend of Ruby Sunday? That's the significance I am curious to see paid off in whatever the title of the next episode will be. Just because, like, this one certainly involves that and certainly hinges on, you know,

Starting point is 00:14:40 they pull her tape, they go into the studio. but it did feel like it was about a lot of things and not just solely the legend of Ruby Sunday in fact you know Ruby's presence throughout the episode was more auxiliary than some characters not to slight like I not even really in a complaint type of way I feel like she'll probably have a lot more to do the next episode

Starting point is 00:15:03 it's funny there's last two episodes of Doctor Who have felt the most I would say this one even more than the last feels the most like the doctor who of what people probably wanted when we heard Russell T. Davies was back. Sure. This feels the most traditional. Yeah. In almost every sense, you know, even with it's more supernatural elements because it's still sci-fi.

Starting point is 00:15:24 Add it to the fact that they're pulling from a classic who villain. Yeah. This whole thing, the review. But big part of me was like, please don't be the master. So far, I was just, you know, I was just kind of freeze God, not the master. Don't do anything that we know too well. Yeah. Don't do your penultimate episode, Cyberman.

Starting point is 00:15:40 Don't do the master yet. like we'll see the master again. I'm excited for that, but not yet. And don't make this, you know, I mean, I'm always happy for Daleks, but I'm excited to wait a little longer for Daleks. Yeah. Well, I think that way they handled this episode was excellent

Starting point is 00:15:56 because it was really intense. And I love whoever's playing Susan, like her... She always has whatever... TARDIS. No, no, no, I think the actress is... I believe Susan Twist is the actress, unless I'm mistaken. which she's so good yeah her reaction to the whole thing about

Starting point is 00:16:14 the dreams and having to keep her composure together just every little moment that she's been in in the show she's always left an impression in every moment where you're like I you seem sinister I'm not quite sure yet I even like the makeup of like the what I mean like sure the big

Starting point is 00:16:30 dog thing looks like it's a big CG dog yeah it's a big CG dog yeah I mean everything around leading out to it was crazy like the the whatever the entity is around the TARDIS. Like, that's scary. You can't access the TARDIS.

Starting point is 00:16:44 When the TARDIS feels like a threat all of a sudden, that's a scary prospect, you know. Usually that's such a saving grace a lot of the time, and you don't get that. What is the sound? Yeah. What is that sinister sound? And yeah, like, don't touch the TARDIS. Don't go near it, you know? Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah. Great music buildup, too. Terrific music throughout the episode, yeah. Oh, and I love that, like, Kate just looks so terrified the whole time. Yeah. really, it's funny when we were jumping back into the season at the beginning and

Starting point is 00:17:16 listening to some of those Who Culture videos, they were like, yeah, you know, sometimes part of the charm, you know, is that, you know, Kate really enjoys and, you know, looks up to the doctor in many ways, but oftentimes, like, they will be very much at odds. And that kind of stuck in my mind, because her appearances thus

Starting point is 00:17:32 far have been pretty, you know, genial and pretty upbeat, but this, like, the contrast here when she's like, I appreciate it. that the reminder of the stakes of i don't know because everybody wants to get swept up in the adventure of of working with and sense cracking you know mysteries and being clever with the doctor um and we know that you know risks must be taken yada yada but like yeah having her i don't know it all lends credence to the situation and to the stakes absolutely it all lends to the stakes like

Starting point is 00:18:04 seeing her tone shift that way and still working with him and still being like if he said to do that And that's what you got to do, get in there. You know, yeah, I just love her sense of authority. I feel like, you know, it's a weird thing to think watching an episode like this. But I was like, give more good roles to older actors out here. Sure. You know? I got the most experience.

Starting point is 00:18:24 They do. And like, there's so many great performances across these. And it's, these are imaginative characters. And we got Mel back. That's always fun. She's got a lot of spunk. Yeah. Which in the UK is obscene.

Starting point is 00:18:35 But here it just means you got Moxie, kid. I mean, she is a very active companion, and they keep establishing that our 14th doctor and Donna, who apparently works at unit. Just not today. Just mess around. They mess out of here. Yeah, they're just gooping off around the galaxy. We're just going to mention them and never see them. You know, I like, you know what?

Starting point is 00:18:57 If they make that a running gag, I would actually. Oh, they just missed them. Yeah. It's always like, oh, you have some, some like extra walk by outside a window just with like that. that David Tennant hairdo just like throw a red wig on some extra in the backdrop and just let him walk through frame what I didn't get was why and this might sound silly that Rose was so excited to see the 15th doctor I'm like do you really have a connection with this doctor do you know and it's not like your mom or grandma would be sharing stories because they can't or up till now they couldn't so like yeah like you've been hanging out with you with your the 14th doctor like that's this 15th doctor is not the oh oh oh I get what you mean like she like having the rapport with 15 like to be so excited to see 15 like I like that he would be excited 15th but rose was like oh my god you yeah I feel like you've already got a doctor

Starting point is 00:19:57 like you like see that guy for like 10 seconds yeah I don't even really recall you seen that yeah he talked like did she I don't recall her seeing the 15 doctor yeah was she on the roof I don't feel like she was in that episode even when they by generated. So, like, so yeah, unless she just knows to recognize time, Lord energy, I guess it would be. Because now, because now her life has to have been all the more expanded by having 14 around and, like, learning probably all that shit. So I don't know. Maybe just because they know there's another doctor out there, his reputation precedes him. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:28 But, but, yeah, that makes my complaint about the episode. That is a gripe. That's, that's them, yeah. That's what happens when they shove the agenda down our throat. it doesn't make sense why people are excited anyway guys and the good makeups yeah like i like the variety of the makeups because like harriet had one sort of like upper face skull thing and then the susan characters had like the dead i know thriller evil dead thriller yeah yeah sunk in skull face eyes thing yeah it's good

Starting point is 00:20:56 that was like actual practical makeup is cool yeah yeah yeah yeah i don't know i feel like spiritually we got one more episode to go but spiritually this season has been on point And construction-wise, it's like when they made the Force Awakens. And people were like, oh, wow, they're using the practical and the puppets and the CG. Like, I feel like those physical elements of the show have been on point. The spiritual, tonal elements have been on point. Yeah, I just didn't like one episode. It's all the time.

Starting point is 00:21:25 And so you hate the show. I got a lot of craft and I like it that episode. It's the weakest, I think. I still don't like that episode, guys. I look back on that episode with Not Pleasant. memories i'm like man that was a grueling time i was so worried about this season i i was like i was telling uh my family i was like you guys because i know they watched dr huss i was like you guys they watch doctor who yeah yeah okay and so i was like you guys should jump in because i know it's been

Starting point is 00:21:51 a while so i was like you should jump in and start the new season and and here here i'll show you on and i was like i think i'll start at maestro and if they like maestro i'll go back to space babies later But I don't think I will start and use Space Babies as the Icebreaker Because I feel like it could really go either way and it and like it's fun like I I had a good time with Space Babies But it just doesn't speak to like the the best of the charms I don't think it even represents the season that well No, it feels isolated I feel like every episode here really represents the season Yeah even though they're all distinct There's still a good hole to the pie it feels like this this feels like a really like a different dessert

Starting point is 00:22:34 Space Babies feels like a bonus track They put at the front of the album It feels like a B-side album Yeah yeah yeah This is a single This is a single we recorded For the radio and then the rest of the album Is like this stuff

Starting point is 00:22:48 It's like every other episode I've been loving the season I think it's really strong Yeah I think it's really really strong season So Yeah I like He said he's gonna be around for a long time And I sure hope so

Starting point is 00:23:01 Because yeah like I think the writing And the energy and the two of them like chuteigatwa and millie gibson together are so great and uh well i've been enjoying seeing his more serious side too yeah as as we've been progressing you know because it's it's fun seeing him be like the really jovial doctor that we know him to be like the really fun doctor but i love his intense side as well like his intense side when he's like confronting susan or at the very end as well when he's trying to be like detective about it towards the whole finale i love all that I think he's, I think that really is one of the quality necessary ingredients to be in the doctor.

Starting point is 00:23:35 And I love seeing that side of him. And I think it's great. Yeah. And for him, I like that one of the flavors is like, yeah, this is a more emotionally forward doctor. But also I think the amount of times they've shown him in situations where he's not confronted so much like, how do I figure out this problem? But it's more of like you see him scared and daunted and having to work despite that anyway. Like there's so many situations across many of these episodes where he's been like, I don't know what. this is or what to do about it.

Starting point is 00:24:01 Well, that's makes your root. I've always, I've always prefer that in the doctors when they have that quality. Yeah. As opposed to like, I got this handle. Yeah. I know what to do. I'm the doctor. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:12 It just, I just needed to get to that last minute to figure out the crucial piece of the detail. Yeah. Yeah. All right, guys, what did you think about this episode? Leave your thoughts down below. I loved it. Absolutely loved it.

Starting point is 00:24:23 John loved it. Did you guys love it? I loved it. We want to hear your thoughts. Thank you so much for being here. Reject Nation. and we will catch you guys for the finale and then see you on Christmas.

Starting point is 00:24:35 Hey. Ian Simon, this month we are shouting out our patrons as usual, but this time we are going, which celebrity do they remind us of the most? And when I think of Ian Simon, there's really only one celebrity that comes to mind here.

Starting point is 00:24:59 James Corrude. Corden, right? That's obviously. Obviously, Ian Simon, you're like, legend. He's got a James Corden thing about it. Absolutely. You're so funny and welcoming on the outside, and yet inside, I know something lurks. You are just terribly miserable, and you take it out on your closest friends and strangers and coworkers.

Starting point is 00:25:22 Yeah, and people who have come to your show to help you out. That, you know, like, oh, you seem like the charming, relatable, quirky guy, but we know you're really. really an asshole everywhere you go and nothing will ever be enough to sate your hunger for praise and adulation but dude if you're successful like i always say you gotta respect the game if that's what it took for you to rack in that dope to rack in that following is this is this is the who you really are that's what you respect the game you deserve to walk on the little people deserve to walk on the little people that's why they're little they're meant to be They're there to prop your feet up.

Starting point is 00:26:01 I get it, dude. To bring you faster service at the bottom of your shoes. And to make life a little more convenient for you while the rest of us suffer. But because of your jokes, I mean, you keep being funny. Yeah. And you keep being an asshole in private. And we'll keep laughing.

Starting point is 00:26:21 Absolutely. Because that's who you really are, Ian. You're the James Corp. You're the James Corp. That's something to improve. brace you got your name in neon that's so cool you make people eat bad food and it's funny for some reason or tell the truth yeah that's funny that's hilarious stuff where you sing other people's famous songs you go hold up traffic and it's amazing yeah some reason you film stuff in crosswalks

Starting point is 00:26:48 and go past the point where the lights turn credible you wreck people's day with that Incredible, Ian. Incredible. It's art. I'm so happy we have a little Jimmy Corny on our corner. Jimmy Cee. Thank you, Ian Simon. James Corden of the Patreon.

Starting point is 00:27:02 Woo.

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