The Reel Rejects - DOCTOR WHO 15x1 (2x1) Breakdown & Review!

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Starting point is 00:00:43 All right, ladies and gentlemen, we just watched episode one of season two. I guess. Still confuses the fuck out of me. It's prepper. Thanks for writing down these highlights. I know especially with BBC, it can be a little bit of pain in the end. asked to get public so thank you for all your hard work on this all right well uh johnny boy gregory uh please man as the man who interviewed these two what did you think uh what did you feel

Starting point is 00:01:12 how do you feel how do you feel post go there you're feeling okay neutral a little overwhelmed or whatever the hell you were feeling how you feel it feel pretty good i feel i mean i had a lot of fun just now like that was definitely a fun ride of an episode uh you know not without a couple of comments I would make on it, but as a season opener that, you know, comes at you with a lot of energy and a lot of color, I thought it was a lot of fun, and it was a very fun note to start off on

Starting point is 00:01:42 whilst also having, you know, at least a bit of portentousness. And, you know, in that little back and forth that we had briefly, you know, they did say that... What is portentousness? Something portentous just means like it seems, like there's something looming in the distance and you know it seems like something is about to descend upon the circumstances or whatever you know a portent is like maybe an omen so yeah like

Starting point is 00:02:10 you know i thought that they the transition between those two flavors could have been a little it's got that thing that a lot of it's like a classic doctor who ism where you're like if there's like an extra act here to transition us from one uh set of circumstances to the next tonally a little bit because this has to be its own episode and then the CODA sets up like the rest of the season so I feel like if you didn't have to do that

Starting point is 00:02:33 you might be able to make her turn toward taking the big responsibility a little more finessed or make it feel a little more finessed but I loved the back and forth between the two of them

Starting point is 00:02:46 I thought the production value was really fun and yeah for like a bouncy sci-fi you know hey we're back kind of episode this was a lot of fun you know and while it's not maybe perfect. It was very appealing

Starting point is 00:02:59 and I like I like what they're laying down here even though there are aspects I think could have been finessed or given a little extra breathing room but then again that's like again a classic kind of thing to say about a Doctor Who episode especially premiere. Yeah totally so how would you say you're feeling

Starting point is 00:03:15 post reaction I like the last half a lot more than the first half there's elements in the first half I do enjoy I think visually from beginning to end it was consistently appealing the aesthetics of the future oh not the future but the planet the belinda planet that they're on

Starting point is 00:03:34 oh i love the retro vibe uh it felt like very classic in in the most classic of senses you know even right down to the kind of ships that have the oval UFO type of shaping to them yeah a very childlike wonder to the crafting and there's sort of thoroughness to the Yeah. And there's a cleverness in a lot of the language, too. I like the whole every ninth word and picking up on it. This is something that I think is really easy to overlook. And especially when you call attention to it, you usually point out when it's bad. And rare is the day where it truly shines. And I think the editing in particular, and so many of these sequences really shine. Like the editing is one of the stars of this episode to me. What do they call it when they're going through the time?

Starting point is 00:04:26 flexi part of those like skip edits yeah but was that whole process they assigned some like silly word to it say it was like getting smushed some one of their

Starting point is 00:04:39 some one of their made up words yeah yeah so like that whole sequence too and the way that was edited was great with a nice usage of sound design as well that really allowed for these like sharp cuts to really land like when the doctor is going back

Starting point is 00:04:55 and explaining like what he landed in here and the way they do these like quick cuts to the past show and then even using moments of silence like when the Shannon Sharon was around when she dies yeah like it was really obvious she was going to die and then the doctor's no is silent

Starting point is 00:05:18 you know and to have Belinda I think the way the fleshed out Belinda's interest because you could tell she's distrusting. You could tell she has a difficulty with connection in certain regards. And when she sees the doctor crying, our doctor, or shoot deep, often cries, and to have it have an emotional moment

Starting point is 00:05:43 where it causes a sort of conversion to trust a little bit more because the thing that tethers them in terms of the heart or hearts is the people. And she sees that he really cares about the people and yeah so i think there's a lot of great things there i think a lot of the flaws if you know us at all you probably know what we'd say yeah flaws we'd find or things that particularly i wasn't a big fan of i felt it was really i thought this was a really really really rushed

Starting point is 00:06:15 experience and it feels like you're running through a theme party yeah yeah as if you've like you're familiar with them in some way and i know it's it's it's the new companion episode i especially feel though when you're introducing a companion you have to take a little more time because like they gave so much attention to ruby yeah it's our whole own spotlight episode and i think if for any new companion they're kind of deserved that of course over time we will get to know her we it's doctor who we've been through a billion seasons together like we know we know but I think for your first one, though, it's important to really get you to connect with her.

Starting point is 00:06:59 And I think they were hitting certain things that on paper sound like good beats to hit for a character. The selfless act is going to turn myself in, quippy banter. And I, you know, don't take orders from anybody and I don't let people talk down to me. Yeah, there's a lot there. But I think they, the reason I say the second half was the second half breathe better. Yeah. and had scenes that allowed a little bit more. But at the same time, it was such a,

Starting point is 00:07:30 such a shift in pace that it, I was still in like, we're moving fast, we're moving fast while the scene was moving slow. And I was like, okay, I need to slow down. Yeah,

Starting point is 00:07:41 totally. And it was a bit of a whiplash of an experience for myself. So I do think that it's interesting to say that the editing really shined in terms of, the impressive editing moments yet it's also paste weirdly and not good in my opinion

Starting point is 00:08:00 it feels like the editor like did a really good job of like stitching this thing together like you it could be more incongruism more kind of dissonant and yeah there's you do beg that level of breathing room

Starting point is 00:08:17 and that level of finesse again because yeah like you want to get endeared to blend and you watch her through so many it's it's like if the emotionality of that we're hitting more i guess you wouldn't you wouldn't be zeroing in as much to the editing like it's it's weird because the editing is very cool in style but it's also like one of the better aspects of the episode overall and like the performance is really appealing and obviously we love watching shutigatwa do his thing and i really like uh you know what what the blint like what varada setu brings as the character what's her name varida setu i believe

Starting point is 00:08:51 Varda Sato, okay. Which I'm sure my pronunciation is great. But, you know, I like the performers that they are, and I like the connection to boom and all that stuff. But, yeah, like, as of this episode, there's not, like, enough time to, like, sit with her in any one experience to, like, really feel like you're in her shoes, or, you know, you have quite an eye line with her,

Starting point is 00:09:11 and I'm hoping that they said, like, they're... The story of her and them will be, like, a big thing of the season. So maybe their plan is to spread out that endearment over time and maybe we're not as of this episode supposed to have like the full picture yet which is neat I I the only scene I loved yeah the only scene I loved

Starting point is 00:09:31 because everything else was like nice and cool looking and had moments that was they'd have like a moment I love like I love the editing on the ninth word right? Yeah it is the scene though at the very end when Belinda

Starting point is 00:09:47 is being told about the boom episode and her descendant. And he's like, it's fate. We're connected. And how she flips it immediately. Yeah. Of you're not, I mean, as a guy I identify with that. Sure, sure.

Starting point is 00:10:06 On this side of like, never taking someone's DNA or something like that. But on the side of, oh, I'm doing this great thing for a woman. Oh, oh, whatever mind. I have not seen this from woman's perspective. Yeah. So even though there's more. with and that i think that is part of what they're what they're doing yeah especially we're also they have a planet of incels thing you know so there the the i'd like how she immediately

Starting point is 00:10:31 flipped that and got to the whole like you're actually like a dark soul aren't you there's actually a darkness to you yeah to get to that quicker and for the assessment she makes to feel like a logical assessment that does grant her more agency and now she's being forced to companion yeah not choosing to companion based off of the setup. I think that's a really unique dynamic to have unfold as opposed to another. Like, yeah, it is fate. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:02 So wonders. And like as cool as this is, oh, my God. Yeah. I think there's a lot of, you know, repetitive beats we go through with companions. And I thought they did a nice way of laying the groundwork for something different. Yeah. And to position her in a way where she. she's resistant towards it like she's kind of like a prisoner right now and like not not a prisoner

Starting point is 00:11:26 she's trapped but she's not a prisoner there's a difference yeah she's she's caught up in this weird yeah malady of a situation and like I appreciate a companion that's in that sort of like martha donna yes even clara sort of spectrum where it's like they will push back and they have you know a good amount of their own headstrong view on things uh and yeah it's like I like what this i like everything on paper and when they're setting up and the idea of all that all right rejection quick personal update on january 25th that was 218 pounds as of today i'm down to 188 that's 30 pounds lost six pack gregg is coming in and while there's been a lot of factors one of the biggest keys has been keeping my energy up especially while having to up my

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Starting point is 00:13:48 Thank you, LiquidiV. and yeah I just feel like the episode could have flattered just the again like the endearing parts of the character we know what her qualities are very clearly through all this action but there's so much action happening that you don't really get much of a character beat and then by the end yeah it's like I can see the nuts and bolts of like yeah I like this setup I like this idea of like well the next adventure whatever that may be is going to be one that's sort of reluctant because it's like well we have to go somewhere because we can't go where we need to go and uh and yeah I like I have I have a lot of hope and I'm still like really excited for the rest of the season and I loved again the amount they put into this but I am always kind of fascinated when you get a especially a season opener like this that does feel like yeah just so it just has this catapulting speed and this sort of rhythm that's that's like it's yeah I don't know it's like it's like when the beat overpowers the rest of the song a little bit yeah you know yeah yeah it's like when you're at a concert and like i hear everything but the vocal yeah yeah yeah and i'm like i like a lot of this stuff but like there's there needs to be something to tie it together as a as a song and yeah like i think the tender sides of belinda would be nice to get at some point and like hey maybe next episode yeah yeah yeah well the other part that would have me curious when watching this is for us it's a streaming show

Starting point is 00:15:19 imagine it still airs on television whatever network TV or cable TV is in the UK that BBC is like a televised thing is a commercial breaks and I don't know how it works and and this show doesn't seem like there's commercials yeah so I I don't know what that is because my mind is going I don't know why you didn't let this expand I that was literally thinking about that I was like maybe because I think they do run it on TV and maybe that's the constriction is like it needs to be that tight 45 whereas yeah because you're like it's on Disney plus now so couldn't they just do it at whatever runtime they needed to you know like an hour or whatever yeah but i don't know how it works on bbc if there are commercial breaks yeah i gotta imagine it's probably that

Starting point is 00:16:05 yeah yeah and and the aesthetics the the the production design the production design is is gorgeous here beyond the cg i constructs of stuff the the actual costumes that the the that everything that should have made this feel lived in it didn't because of the detachment through connection of other variables that we have already pointed out but there's a lot of good effort put it i would say it's got everything but the lived in yeah sadly like when you go to the there's always that missing little spark that you can something can't even quite like verbalize that let something feel lived in right and it usually will some breathing room and like when they go to the owl generator room i thought that was like a

Starting point is 00:16:55 gorgeous looking room and it was the closest i felt like coming to a lived in moment and you see the the the owl what he has become i thought that design was great and part of what and again this probably just this is probably like for a few who would who be aware of this or feel this to me whenever they kept cutting back to owl reactions i felt like they didn't fit he's a very evil guy yeah he's just smiling at like every single thing and it was the same thing we're looking i got to the point where i thought was this an animatronic yeah because it wasn't lining up and they kept cutting back because they needed a cut to him every accusation's like yes this was my evil plan yes tell me more of my accomplishments yeah it was the same thing every time and i thought it

Starting point is 00:17:45 wore a little thin while while a lot of great ideas and a course when like the the kaboom happens and all those crazy you know cosmos visuals out of yeah out of the who directed mandy who's that you know that panos cosmos montos type of a style yeah like i like i liked all that of course you know again like a lot of it's not i would say like i'm like a 70 no i'm like a 65 percent on it like a 65 it's got so much yeah want to give it like so much works. Yeah. That you want to give it. And it's just a couple of things that prevented from tying all the way together and really feeling like, yeah, we're locked in. I feel like I need a little bit more to get locked in. But I'm still like, man, way more than Space Babies.

Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, I was gonna say. I was gonna say. I was like a way. Space babies is still like the bottom of the two for me. This is still way higher. Well, I don't even remember the name of 99% of the episode. But you remember Space Babies for how much I was like, this is not my jam. And you'll remember this one robot revolution as planet of the in cells yeah that's that you're probably right about that being the original title for that what's what they said in the writer's but i i i still i still enjoyed it and i love the world of doctor who yeah the big practical robot suits and stuff and the big old timey space guns yeah yeah this is a show i get defensive for you know like i scope out a lot of channels and and videos of of content since last time we did doctor who i feel like i've changed a lot

Starting point is 00:19:13 as a person i feel like i'm like so aggressively acting working on myself constantly and and in i don't feel like i've ever lied to you guys uh with doctor who i feel like there might be versions of me where i perhaps wasn't as honest with myself first as long as i'm also myself i'll be honest and i have like checked out like other channels that you know uh i'd like to get opinions that often differ from mine not to fight you're going on the doctor who jubilee episode yeah yeah i like i like to hear other things and this is one in particular this series i i find myself getting defensive internally forward like i can listen to another video from someone else who's like the complete like oh my god gay doctor yeah yeah yeah yeah i could listen to that and

Starting point is 00:20:03 sometimes they're criticizing the show and i go oh actually i see what they're what they're saying like in terms of like the writing and stuff and then other times when they they get all but hurt over like politicide stuff or or shooty gawas having a good time not one white person the main cast or something i'm in an episode like this you know or she's woman's bleeding to us uh you know yeah they're taking the piss out of of men yeah this show in particular is is one for some reason i'm finding myself where you can hear about them from all kinds of properties but doctor who is one where for particularly shutti gawah i'm pretty defensive for yeah i never to the point where i feel like I have to argue with someone or go in the comments and defend his name. I do think, though,

Starting point is 00:20:48 that he is an amazing doctor. I love watching. I love watching. I adore his doctor. I like how he brings out the childlikeness, but the darkness is also very believable. And like the crying that I know has been sort of made fun of, even, you know, present company included in that. I think, though, that does speak to the child in him that he is bringing out of. the doctor and I love the variety. Oh yeah. That he provides too beyond the wardrobe.

Starting point is 00:21:19 One. Yeah, I think he's amazing. I think he's an amazing doctor and he is it is interesting to have an experience where I'm like, oh, I'm feeling that that fandom that fandom defense that I often get mad at when I say something and they get I'm like, yeah, I'm like, oh shit, I don't feel it for him. Well, because you know a lot of people are not

Starting point is 00:21:37 fairly giving him the chance that he deserves and acknowledging that like we've experienced this with every doctor to some degree but with Jody Whitaker especially where it's like she's not the problem she's actually pretty great in this role and you know obviously different flavors but I feel like it's it's interesting to take in a doctor who

Starting point is 00:21:53 because the more of it you watch the more it becomes also this odd exercise when you go to talk about it because the up and down roller coaster of like what type episode are you going to get and that applies not only to tone or time in place but that also applies to like does it breathe? Is it one of the rushed ones?

Starting point is 00:22:11 Is it one of the really like cacophonous, you know, shrill, garrish ones? Is it one of the ones that like, you know, does a bottle and takes it slow? And so, like, there are moments where I'm like, I'm not even that upset over whatever criticisms I had about this because I'm like, these are the kinds of criticisms I've used to from such a long-running show that they become somewhat endearing. So especially when people, and granted, the newer you are, the more you're prone to, you know, feeling strongly. but yeah like when people dog pile on this show or don't give it the proper chance or don't take it for what it actually is it is kind of a bummer

Starting point is 00:22:44 absolutely because there's so much great work and yeah like sometimes you get a rushed episode because that's doctor who and like not to give that an infinite pass we're not we're pointing it out but you know like yeah there's still so much to appreciate beyond that yeah that thought i just the thought that i just the thought that i expressed now that we're going into that kicked in for me when he's encouraging her to get inside the tartis and he's having a lot of fun I'm like ah yeah that's really fun I'm like no other doctor would do this and that's the kind of crap they clip out and yeah like and no matter the episode around it though it's stuff like that that I love

Starting point is 00:23:19 like even an episode that I have gripes with I'm like I always love watching him and the things that you can tell he must have brought spontaneously to the role that's why it's I feel like there's an impact when he gets super serious then yeah because he's so giddy and fun

Starting point is 00:23:36 that when he gets super serious, it is alarming. Like when he's freaked out about this situation. Like, whatever that was happening with Capaldi, it's like, this guy's always a Comrade. He's always in a bad mood. He's seen too much. When it's happening, particularly with him, like there's such a slingshot that you,

Starting point is 00:23:52 as an audience member, you take it very serious because then the fear kicks in that he's feeling, the peril. Like, I don't ever feel like I've quite felt that with any of the doctors more than shootigabwe, that when suddenly he's becoming intense or scared, I'm like intense and scared. Yeah, yeah, you believe the mavety.

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The Reel Rejects - DOCTOR WHO 15x1 (2x1) Breakdown & Review!

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