The Reel Rejects - DOCTOR WHO 60th Anniversary Special 3 | "Giggle" Review!!!

Episode Date: December 10, 2023

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Let's get to it. With that timeless challenge is the Lord. Yeah, I know. They're like, hey. David, like, I'm going to what up, y'all? Yeah, we're not resetting shit. All right. Destination.

Christmas. That's something to wrap your goddamn head around. That's for sure. All righty. Well, I've got a lot of praise. Okay. And I've got a lot of questions. Sure.

That my lead to criticisms, depending on the answers specifically John gives me. Wow, you hate Doctor Who. No, no, no, not at all. I actually quite enjoyed the hell out of this episode. My criticisms will be mild. There will be more concerns depending on the answers John gives me. I have so many answers, gee. This is why we need an ending explained.

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I'm John you're John here's what I loved here's what I loved I love the madcapness of this episode I thought it was a lot of fun I think these specials I quite enjoyed all them my favorite would still probably be Wild Blue Yonder

and this would be it would go 2, 3, 1 Yeah, for me I think I agree I like them all but I like them in that order I like them in that order specifically But I loved how this had a little bit of that absurdist horror

I thought Neil Patrick Harris was a lot of fun I thought I'd be distracted That it was Neil Patrick Harris the whole time Just like in the Matrix movie Sure Where I was really distracted I don't remember what his character was It wasn't the architect

It was something else The analyst Yeah I always just go I don't know why I really got gripes with him in that movie for some reason. I was so distracted that it was Neil Boucher Karras the entire time. But anyway, that's beside the point. I believed him as the character of the toy maker here.

And I thought he had so much fun with the different accents that he was doing. Like, he just, he brought his stage presence to life here, I thought. And I thought he was a great delight in a wonderful foil for the doctor. And in every account. And in terms of like what they did with the by generation, there were so many moments that I thought were very tender and touching. You know, like, what's his name? 15th doctor?

Shuti Gatwa. Yeah, okay. It's going to be a while before I call him that. Let's call it. Just call it 15 for a while. 15. All right. Dr. G.

I will remember it by next. week all right you got this so 15th doctor uh when my 15th hugged 14 i thought that was a really sweet moment because the only one it could really understand the pain would be 15 um 14 being able to say there there are things contextually that uh even outside of my questions that i really love like you know you had uh one through eight doctor show canceled or ended or whatever right i don't know prolonged break took a prolonged break there's a movie in between and some other stories they told and then they come back with nine yeah and uh they've ended this era from nine to 14 they've ended that era essentially the story at least

because they're going to start over with 15 you know so i i i love how we got to have certain goodbyes you know tenant got rose you know what i just realized they never mentioned martha and all that Yeah, that's right. They mentioned Rose. They mentioned Bill. They mentioned Amy. They mentioned Rose, Bill, Amy, and... They didn't mention any of Whitakers. No. Whitaker had like 12 companions. Yeah. And I guess for the most part, they're mostly fine, I guess. So that's a little different. Like, I guess of all the companions, they don't have the harshest lives to get back to... Still did not mention any of them. Sure. Yeah. And I'm surprised that they would over... look martha because she was a she was a good one what happened with her shenna would make you or some shit afraid like she she does something

it doesn't matter yeah um so i i i loved i loved uh 15th um performance you know you're gonna get both in this one episode yeah and you really got to distinguish them and i and i enjoyed his introductory performance quite a bit and he takes command of the screen felt comfortable and i loved that tenant was really sharing the screen with him and it was interesting because a lot of times when you get you know your collapse with the doctors it's because you've been take take the other special when you had Smith and Tennant yeah you know you've been hanging out with Smith for a while

then Tennant comes back and it's the nostalgic crossover element of hey look at these two crossing over together and this is completely different where I am literally going to be sharing the screen with you whilst introducing you to the world it's a completely different gamble yeah yeah yeah that's a very hard thing i and i for imagine what what's his name 15 chuti gotwa chutei gotwa yeah chutee we can start there i think yeah it's it's yeah we can start with chutee chutee

you know the last name okay godwa godwa got what chutee the last name's easy part it's it's chutey sounds way easier to me well it's it's when you look at it it's spelled nc uti so it's so it's americans don't throw that on my brain john yeah don't throw that my name Chew tea. Chutee got one. I can remember Chutee because I imagine it spelled totally different. Sure. Chutee.

Phonetic. Excuse you guys. I'm a little under the weather. Stubbick is also killing me. I got this like big stomach pain bloat happening at the same time. You were in the worst shape imaginable. But Dr. Who is willing to keep going to still bring in the joy. I got to do this.

So Chutee. Yeah, everything about his performance was great. And I think that for him to be introduced. here I'm like yeah I'm looking forward to seeing what he does there was so much I really loved about it what do you think John before I get to my question I enjoyed this verily I enjoyed this quite a bit this has I think it's a last time before I forget before I just for I just let myself settle with my little symptoms for a while please go sorry John get it out get it out we discussed this prior so okay the the how like Rose had a

tragic ending in some ways right initially yeah but then she got to be off with tenant yeah yeah yeah and and donna had tragedy befall her in a lot of ways and there was a a darkness to her you know if she remembers she'll die metacrisis all that yeah but she's able to they're able to have this like sweet tenderness like who knows how long 14 would be there but this is the exact and antithesis to the kind of life that the doctor never thought he'd be able to live. Yeah. And now he gets to have the opportunity to live that. And I think that is so, so sweet and unexpected and a big part of why I like the choice of what they did.

Yeah. You get the sense that he actually gets to rest for the first time. The doctor rests. And now, as you should. Now let you talk for a little bit before we get to the questions. Thank you, John. No, I've, like I said, and we've touched on, really enjoyed all three of these specials. And it's been such a lovely thing to have David Tennant and Catherine Tate back, especially,

and all of our sort of surrounding players and unit and things like that, both new and old. And yeah, this was an episode that certainly, I think they did a nice kind of trio here that's proportionate in that, yeah, you have the first episode, you know, which is very much kind of doing, I don't know, it felt kind of like a synthesis. of the Whitaker reintroduction, but going back to the tone of the Tennant era, especially. And yeah, you're, you know, kind of dealing with a terrestrial thing here at home. Then in the second one, you're dealing with an isolated, very sci-fi thing out in the future. And then these two episodes, the middle and the last one, both go into the past for certain little historical details, which I thought was really nice.

And apparently, I think his name was John Logie Baird is a real guy. That whole thing with the TV is, you know, based on actual history. History. Stooky Bill is a real, you know, a puppet from history. I love when they do that stuff. And yeah, this episode had especially a lot of just the aesthetics that appealed to me directly of, like, you pointed out the sort of like trippy Gothic stuff they're doing when they're in like the infinite Scooby-Doo hallway. And you've got the demented mannequin ventriloquist dummy dolls. And yeah, you've got these like circus elements and stuff like that. I really enjoyed the whimsy. and the mad capness of the toy maker and his presence here. And yeah, I think that NPH, you know, it can go either way because I'm a fan. I enjoy him. But yeah, it depends on what the thing is. And there are certain things you watch where you're like, yeah, he's perfect for this.

And he blends in really nicely with everything around. And then there are some things, like, I get your point with the Matrix, where it is, like, I'm kind of aware that I'm watching you specifically. And I get that maybe that's part of the point. But I think that plays better here. because yeah like you know you're watching MPH and he is big but I liked that he clearly you know brought all of his you know utmost showmanship and flamboyance and I like the whole thing with the accents going back from the German to you know French a little bit I don't know much about the original Toymaker other than learning that it was Michael Goff who's you know prolific British actor was Alfred and the Tim Burton Batman's and stuff that's who that was yeah and that's that was that That character was like a kind of an Asian stereotype, so they, you know, adjusted it. A Fu Manchu?

Kind of, yeah. I would have been way better. Yeah, we just have Neil Patrick Harris going all Cloud Atlas on us, but, uh, but yeah, like, I thought that they tempered the history. Have you seen Cloud Atlas? I have not. And you are speaking out of line, John. I just know that Asian face plotline had everybody, uh, really, really, really appreciative.

You must experience context before declaring. Correct context. I want to see it. But yeah, I liked his presence. I liked what he brought. I liked... If the movie does do that. The way they just...

You know, I get the choice from the outside, from the vague things I've heard, but may be problematic, you know? Maybe problematic. But, yeah, I like the way that they updated the... From what I understand. The little I know about the original character from way back in, you know, the beginnings of Doctor Who, I liked what they updated him to here. and yeah i like that it was something that is largely here in the present with our major characters kind of reconnecting to yeah here's our ensemble commemorating all the time that we have spent together especially with unit bringing back old companions and we did see mel briefly at like the companion support group at the end of the whittaker season she's not one of the ones that like i don't think is you know like coming back and helping directly because we had the other two uh but uh but yeah like all those things were nice uh And yeah, I, if anything, I was just like, man, I could do with another, like, 15 minutes on this. Because the third act, like, is, it's Doctor Who.

So the third act is truncated, and it's a special, it's longer than a normal episode, but it's still like 55 minutes. And I'm like, ah, man, this is the time where you could go for an hour 10 or something like that. And, you know, I bought most everything. I do have questions about stuff. I like generally that they're making some of these choices, though, just because, I mean, yeah, they're obviously nodding to certain aspects of our culture, especially with the whole motif they used of the toy maker, you know, creating this game where everybody basically assumes that they are just, like, of the utmost authority, and everyone assumes that they're correct in all of their opinions and that sort of boiling over into chaos. It's very relevant to our times and whatnot. How? You know, because I'm right and I said so.

And you shouldn't question me when I'm speaking because I know I'm talking about. Yeah, like I like all that stuff. And I like that, you know, in coming back to Tenet with these three episodes and Catherine Tate, you know, going back to something lovely and familiar, you're kind of able to have your cake and eat it too because throughout the tone and the themes, they've been like, no. we are not going to stop, you know, addressing the real world and creating these, you know, they're not like the most deeply veiled allegories, but, you know, like stuff that obviously has touchstones to modern life. We're not going to stop doing that. And so I thought they were super subtle in this episode. They were the subtlest. But I do, I'm of two minds. I'm bi-generated now because part of me, and I know there was so much with the timeless child that people don't like

it's always hazardous when you're adding new lore i would be curious to go back are you entering question terrain or criticism terrain uh question terrain more than anything maybe i don't have a direct criticism right now for the i do okay i don't okay damn it let's fight um yeah i i it's always i would if anybody wants to comment and shouts out to Rosie over at the Patreon. I'm sure you would be a great, you know, person to put this list together for me. But like, I'm curious to have an amalgamation of all the things that the new series, starting at Eccleston and beyond, has added to the rules in the canon. I know that they recontextualized the 12 regenerations into a more unlimited thing. And now we have this by

generation. I appreciate that they're not resting on the old lore. I think that's one piece of friction, spot of friction that we run into with all of these beloved properties now is like, you can only change the lore in certain ways. And, you know, there's always going to be a grace with which you need to, you know, proceed in order to do that. But I do appreciate that they are, you know, not resting on, you know, the old stuff. And as much as we do have a lovely boost of nostalgia in the circumstances here, it's also like, no, we're going to keep adding new ideas to what the lore can be and how it can work. And so, yeah, I'm still chewing and processing the the by generation

chewy as a yeah we're home uh as a concept uh but here and now like at face value i like it you know like it's and that whole thing about like i thought we thought this was a myth you know like the idea exists or at least we've acknowledged in this episode that the myth exists um and now we never had to say goodbye to any doctor that's the fear and i mean that's there's already reasons why you don't have to say goodbye to any doctor because they can bring them all back somehow but like now we can just have a big cinnamon and how we get a new doctor every episode well and i don't know what the context was but well and i you know what though i part of me thought like maybe we talked about this at one point i don't know but like having a season where

it's like a new doctor every episode would be crazy do it like the daily show trying to replace trevor noa where they're like we don't know what to do so let's just get everybody uh like i think that would be fun but uh but yeah like it on the one hand i can see it opening a door to like well then you can just always do this you can just have infinite doctors and and it's like the toy maker says i could just do this forever and have a meadow of you um and i haven't read too far into it i don't know what the plans are i've heard russell t davies has aspirations to you know expand out the reach of what this universe can be and certainly sending tenant off like this i think is is interesting because on the one hand, it's a really lovely bow on everything that he is done

if he never returned to the role after this, which I assume, even if they didn't buy generate, I assume he would, at least in a small way, at some point. But in doing this, I feel like you have a nice resting point for him. It's the lovely thing the doctor's never able to do. And with Tenet, we've certainly confronted a number of times where it's like, I'm not going to come in for dinner, I'm going to peace out. I'm going to do the Irish goodbye. and now he gets to have that lovely sort of rest with his chosen family that was the easter egg

yep when he said you're not going to leave without saying goodbye yeah that was the easterig yeah i try to do that to donna that's fucked this messed up man oh no one when um 15 oh yeah that's right and he was gonna do it yeah that's what you do man yeah see and now and it's not gonna do it now and it's it's growth man he's not gonna do it but also at the same time you're like, well, this does also give you a direct opening to have just two series. He's got a friggin' tARDIS If they put him without his own

TARDIS, I'd be like, yeah, the doctor's going to live ostensibly happily ever after, or 14 is. But on the other hand, I'm like, well, you can kind of do what you want. So it's conscientious in that they don't have to, but they easily can. It's just a little,

I guess my initial concern is, it's a little, it's like an initial concern. It all depends on how they handle it moving forward it's the way how people complain about anything like marvel or star wars like god let these characters die you know and the doctor never dies he's already immortal yeah and unlike part of me is a little concerned of is this too immortal now sure yeah i've already gotten on board with the immortality like honestly timeless child stuff did not really bother john and i didn't really bother me because

I think we just kind of watch it as one binge. Yeah. Whereas everyone else kind of has like, I watch it and then I have a little bit of a breather and I just digest it and absorb it and especially for those who absorb a classic who I could understand.

I get what's not to love. I can totally get that. But for in the immediacy of watching it, I remember being like, all right. Interesting. Okay, fine. You're clearly a special of some kind even amongst a special race such as the time lords yeah yeah so i was like all right whatever i'll go on board yeah and i'm kind of i'm kind of of the same mind but i'm also

weirdly more couldn't whereas like the timeless child i think opened up i can't remember what positive thing it opened up for me nor was i like a negative about it you know yeah and here this at least opens up positive door and then it opens up doors of concern of kind of emotionality weight is really the only thing, right? Because it's not really, it doesn't really make a difference, you know, because he still gets every new doctor the 16th, if it's a bi-generation instead of a regeneration, they would still get the memories of one through 15. That's the question, actually, is are they going to do it so that, and I've, I've, I've, in the vague i mean 15 has has everyone's memories 14 and on 14 and before doesn't he i'm not sure well i'm not sure it certainly would seem as though but part of me wonders if in splitting

them apart and in restarting at series one again because they've said they're doing that this is a new series one with 15 but to cut you off i thought to cut you off to cut you off what to cut you Oh, I was totally just talking. I had no idea you were even talking. My days of saying, sorry to interrupt, they're done. I'm going to cut you off. Take it or leave it, but I'm talking now. And I'll just turn your mic down in my house.

Sorry, what were you going to cut me off? I don't even remember now. I just wanted to make my joke. It's okay. It was about 15. We were talking about 15, the memories. Did I have an actual point? I don't know.

It sure sounded like you did. Oh, I could think of one. What were we talking about? We were talking about whether or not 15 has all the memories of the doctors, which is a good question to ask. Oh, to cut you off. Yes. Didn't they say with the ninth doctor, wasn't that a series one? Yeah, that's, that is, yeah, exactly.

And that was a reboot of some kind. And I don't know. I mean, Eccleston certainly, as the doctor, seem to have some of the past traumas of being the doctor. So I don't really know what the reboot means in a time where there hasn't been a massive break to come back from. And I wonder if, I don't know, it just makes me curious because what gets divided in the bi regenerating

and what gets changed? It's like, are they both 100% time lord? Or is this something where, like, we had the thing with Tenant and Roe? earlier where okay you have like human doctor which i get the circumstances were different for that and you know it's it's just a human version that can grow old a different thing but at the same time it makes you wonder like okay is tenant going to kind of carry on the memories and maybe got what will be the kind of a fresher slate than that maybe or maybe not i don't know oh i think that's way too

much if they do that okay see that's the problem you got to think about if like the one the by generation keeps happening like just the multiplication process of that well i think the key is to not do it much i think the the thing is they've set up a device that can work but that you absolutely have to not get carried away with and not

use as an excuse just to have fun all the time oh i think that was i think that's my question is is okay when um 15th tenure is done and we get a 16 is it going to be a by general i doubt that we won't okay so you highly see i was under the impression that that's how it's going to be from here on out i think that's just because this is a special with david tenant i i think it's because of his legacy and of all the new doctors he is

easily the one everybody corrals around and agrees on the most i think if it was just if it's you know in a scenario where it's just 50 or if it was just jody whittaker regenerating on her own and no special right yeah i i don't think that was that what happened so much because I don't think there's as much of a reason to be like now I'm excited about two doctors I've never met before versus now I'm excited because one I love from before still carries on that that's what was concerning me about emotional weight because there's such a there's such a thing to saying goodbye because there's when as an audience member you are saying goodbye to the the you're saying goodbye to the actor um and it it feels like you

you are leaving someone behind as a character still. Yeah. Like when Whitaker left or when Tenant first left or whomever, when Smith first left, you feel like you are saying goodbye. Yeah. You feel like you are saying goodbye to this character still. Yeah. Even though the doctor will carry on, you still feel like you're saying goodbye to this person.

And meeting someone new. And I don't have that feeling now with Tenet. Yeah. It's like, oh, well, I could probably. see him again and now we're just going to focus our attention on someone else and that feeling of saying goodbye is something that I hold kind of dear to the doctor who experience yeah of kind of putting some sense even though it's like I know they can come back in some special or uh they can do something right like yeah there's there is a sense of he's just out there of something that feels a little

more finite when for a character who is infinite you know yeah um and and i i treasure that feeling and i think that's an important feeling to maintain agree and that's the concern about the by generation that 100% oh you know like i don't really i don't know how people might read into it as something else as there was all the like the non-binary stuff that was uh you know you know upsetting the world. And, and, yeah, like, people tweet about it, those folks will stop existing. I will say, I think, Russell T. Davies is writing, particularly in the first and the third episode when it comes to certain political statements.

He wants to let you know. Oh, yeah, I know. He's like, right wiggers, you're listening to my thoughts. My little anti-vax rift. Here's my Twitter riff. Yeah. Yeah, it does get very, very aggressive to the phone where I'm aware that you are now writing a message. I know that you want to rile up a certain group of people right now.

I completely get the sentiment of it. I like it because it's just so freaking. It's so bold phase. It's so on the nose. It's so on the nose, but it seems clear that that's what it wants to do. Yeah. It's so confidently on the next. nose that I don't mind it where I'm like it's one thing if when you think you're being

subtle but you're not yeah that's what it annoys me yeah you know again I liken it to Barbie of of like Barbie's so on the nose of I'm like but that's what's what's about part of the point you know and and that's what I feel like I'm watching here with doctor who's like yeah I see what you're doing yeah yeah because you're making it clear like yeah we're going to do it might as well not be not as well go a little ham-fisted about it yeah um so yeah uh i i will give it that and that's my concern with it by generation and my other question is is um okay so when it comes to the face yeah i do think that if eccleston was willing to come back they would have brought back hecklesden i weirdly feel like for the arc they set forward sure although you know

it's like you would need it for rose i mean uh donna you for Donna yeah rose already has her by yeah but man whatever the hell happened with eccleston just get like these little nuggets that keep coming out um but i'm like oh no that real run is done when you when you get that yeah when you get the heckleston dude that's that's when that's when it's really done because even though he's done i i think he's in like audio books or something yeah Some audio appearances. Not audiobooks, but something. Yeah. Some weird audio appearances.

Radio stories or whatever, whatever an audio play becomes in the modern time. Yeah, I think he's done some. Yeah, when that to me would really feel like, though, that is the end of the doctor. Of that run. That would be a big surprise, yeah. Because part of me is sitting here going, okay, okay, when are we going to get Mass Smith back at some point for a special occasion? When are we going to get Capaldi back at some point for a special occasion? point for a special occasion and he's older certainly

so you know we got less time for that but yeah like with Eccleston there's that back and forth of like you know that there's certain friction it doesn't seem like he's always the easiest person to work with on these things I've heard him say that there was some conduct on set he wasn't a fan

of and I've also heard of him yeah oh Eccleston is yeah he's he didn't like the little things have come out and you kind of just piece it all together over because he like he likes to like reveal a little bit at a time yeah but yeah he didn't get along with at all with the crew and I think him and him he wanted to work Russell C Davies again and I think that when it came time for dr. hoop time yeah they were not getting along

and then there was the other director too he wasn't getting along with because I think in recent years he has kind of recanted a bit and been like oh I didn't realize exactly the mantle in the time that I was stepping into the mantle I didn't realize you know kind of what that would mean and what it would mean to people and just how a different side of this apparatus operates in terms of the fans and the love and all that stuff. And so, like, part of me does hold out hope that maybe someday he could come back. And, yeah, in a way. He said he would come back if it was, like, a solo thing.

She doesn't want to do a crossover. Okay. I can, I can, from the amount I know about Christopher Eccleston, I can see that. It's like he would probably want to come back for some kind of special that he gets to do the heavy lifting for and that like isn't oh be a fun like few minutes of screen time with a bunch of other doctors i got to imagine yeah he he wants to really show up an act which i'm happy with i like his doctor a lot but i also yeah like it to end the era and to reset the era it would feel the fullest circle and i guess it's just lucky that everyone loves tenants so much because

that works too but yeah i get what you mean it's like well i like tenet more certainly i can't disagree as we have gone on like because i i really like christopher echoes and i have a soft spot in my heart for that doctor uh you know as being my first but uh but yeah i mean i'm not gonna say that he's the best one of the new series necessarily because i don't think he was around long enough to really like hit that full on stride man you know like sure yeah yeah i like what he did a lot i like the flavors of his doctor but like you get to tenant and you're just like wow there's just so much more time to spread out and really embody and inhabit this and then Smith and Capaldi and blah blah they just all feel like they lead into each other a bit more naturally

than Eccleston into any of the rest of them well um well okay so the tenant comes back because what was the reasoning do you remember well that's something about showing me something something i got so caught up in the by generation thing that i'm like nothing else matters to me right now. Yeah. I need to understand this five generation thing. It was one of those

emotions. I like that this season or this trio of specials has also had those emotional beats where at least Donna implies here that it's like and she says it

and 15 also says it. It's like you're running ragged. You know, like you're stretching thin and you're exhausted and maybe this is some sort of attempt to like return

to something warm and familiar and to find an old friend. And in that way, it's funny because, yeah, it's like if you had Eccleston for this, these specials, or at least this special, and you have Rose, that makes sense because they are such an iconic duo

in a lot of ways. But I think, yeah, like, Doctor and Donna also makes beautiful sense. I think they, like, there are a lot of great companions and you can talk all day about who's great and why and, you know, why this might have worked with Martha or somebody else. But I think, yeah, like, Catherine Tate being back

with Tenet is such a lovely dynamic. They are a great set of characters and I think it's yeah it's that emotional thing of like instead of it being some kind of grand trick or a master plan or a toy maker plan it's maybe it's just some subconscious

cry to you know get back to something warm and familiar some kind of love support etc and maybe actually take a load off and rest after all this well yeah it seems like the

only way he could have had the opportunity to slow down and Netflix and chill and have a home of any kind at all it wouldn't be with any other companion it would be maybe with Mel because she's probably living in an old folks home with her $60,000 she's got the support group

he's got the YAS support group oh yes yeah yeah she I didn't catch it at first but yeah she shows up the support group at the end there for the Whitaker run Mel? Yeah, she's not one of the

main focus, like there are a couple other companions one's called Teigen, I forget the other one's name. Yeah, they like yeah, she's not one of the two that's like on the adventure but she's there at the end in that like roundup of companion cameos. I like how they made justifications for why he was an

old man when he was Kapaldi. Sure. They did not make justifications for why he was a young, hot professor at a college university when he was Matt Smith. You know. He's like, I'm just, I'm younger. Baby, Bo Tosick.

Cool. Now, in season one, new season one, we're just going to spend all this time being like, I decide to be black. You can choose. That's why it has a black face. I chose to be black. Open up some weird racial implications. They pick, they really pick and choose.

They decided to make something about the. identity of appearance. I think there's fun to be I don't recall anything about like that's why I came as a woman. Yeah. I don't recall anything about that. Well, because there's, we're just rolling with it. There's little cause in culture

currently to be like, why did I generate as a 30 somethings white guy? You know, whereas like if it's a woman or if it's any other ethnicity or whatever, it's out of the ordinary. Well, I can't wait to see 15 go to like time periods as a black doctor that where it would be really

hard to just kind of oh yeah everyone's going to be racist all the time all the stuff Ryan companion dealt with when they would go to certain eras yeah or Martha

yeah or other black characters who would travel yeah with doctor sure sure I mean he's gonna have to experience that now

yeah and I mean it'll be interesting to see how it manifests when it's the doctor and not like an alien race and not a companion when there's a white savior to save their black companion where yeah you got your white card to get you through saving himself sure being free of all the the bigotry all this concern of other people's narrow-minded but it would be really interesting for russellty davies to write an episode similar to the kapaldi episode and he's like why did i choose this old face yes why for him to It's so caught. Why did I choose this black face?

Knowing that Russell T. Davies. What? I choose this black face. And then Russell T. You can make a lot of commentary, ma'am, but maybe you shouldn't do this Russell T.D. Maybe you should let a black writer handle this episode. Or you know, just like, let's not talk about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, like, that's always an interesting facet. And it makes me wonder again, like, how much of that, how self-reflexive they're going to do, go with the new iteration or not because it's I feel like that's always a part of it too is like every doctor has some kind of torture but you know some of them are more self-reflective than others

yeah but as an episode as a whole it was really fun you know and I do I do agree I think it should have been a little bit longer I was like by the time it got to like oh he's going to regenerate I was back to like what this is fucking just came out of nowhere what the shit and I like the game of catch but It is a bit like, oh, oh, and we're done.

Oh, it just, you threw the thing and he didn't catch it and we're done. Oh, okay, interesting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I did think that it was like, okay, now we're moving along. We're moving through some like really quick, like the beats that you must go through for your regeneration and or now by generation episode. Like you must go through those beats. But admittedly, I was like, this is happening kind of, I didn't really feel like we built to this moment at all. this feels like a transition into something a bigger finale or something yeah i think i think one thing

too when it comes to regenerations or by generations is uh or any kind of you know new introduction uh one thing i will hold dear is you kind of have to make the episode sort of feel like it's sort of about that or really building up to it in some way yeah you know even if it's not like the whole time they're just fighting against it you There's got to be some type of inkling of we are on our way to a goodbye. Yeah. And I think that would have sell the by generation moment even better if it was like, oh, we're building up. Oh, we're going to say, I have to say goodbye to 10 one more time.

Oh, yeah. This is going to be hard. What? Not just, oh, my God, is it already happening? Yeah. And then also on top of it's already happening. Now there's like a whole new wrinkle of lore and it's double happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's why the, I mean, even though the tenant thing was spoiled for us, that was impossible when it came from Whittaker to Tenet, that whole, even that episode, I think that's why the impact was beyond just being Tenet coming back. I think that was another reason with the big impact was, all right, let's see you, the new doctors after building up to it in this episode, knowing it's the final episode. For now. Yeah. But damn, man. Dude, and apparently, I didn't know this.

I like Whitaker a lot. I wish she would get more love. I thought she was great. And I would be really excited for whatever crossover event brings her back at some point. I think they should absolutely bring her back at some point. She really took care of my mommy issues for me. I felt like she was comforting me and giving me the nurturing I didn't receive growing up. Hey, respect.

Jody Whitaker was terrific in the role. And I also thought she was very physically attractive. So it really played on the Edipus complex. That's why I thought she was terrific in the role. Really did play on my mother. The hottest doctor. One thing I learned. which I didn't realize is that part of what enticed Russell T. Davies back to this world was, you know.

Our reactions on Patreon. A stream along events. Yeah, actually. There was like a big stream along event that somebody was doing during the pandemic that got like Stephen Moffat back on Twitter. And then Russell T. Davies was like, damn, I got to check this out too. And like, man, everyone's tuning in at the same time doing this live watch a lot. People watch this shit. People watch this shit and they do it together online.

What? We were just making these for us. All right, well, time to get some left agendas out there. Yeah, that's what the internet loves. Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, stream alongs, watchalongs. We got Doctor Who. We saved Doctor Who or something. I don't know.

I mean, I like, yeah, I don't think Doctor Who really need. needed to be saved, but it needed to be saved from some tonal issues, but other than that. But, but yes, in closing, as long as they don't, I'll be happy with this stuff if they don't buy generate all the time and if we don't see Tenant for a while, is, it's kind of, I wonder. I think every other episode should be Tenet. Well, part of me wonders if they're going to use him as like a, as like a resource, like, oh, shit, we've run into a conundrum. Let's stop by, you know, Chiswick and ask David Tennant.

And then, like, even with, like, the second tardist, I'm like, what, that's some, you know, there's just some stuff. Oh, and the master. And he's in the gold tooth. The master's in the gold tooth. And who grabbed the tooth? Oh, dude, that was, I think it was, um, was it Kate? Would it be Kay, would you pull a maneuver like that?

Maybe to, well, it certainly seemed like a sneaky thing. We got to, like, we got to keep this tooth under lock and keys. We got to go through everyone's hands and see the nail polish. Yeah. And be detectives. Yeah. Or we just wait for some other editor on YouTube to figure it out. It's definitely this hand.

Yeah. If you look at this other shit from this episode and that episode, oh, cool. Good to know. The Masters. And we did to see it. Dude. And then we got Christmas in a couple weeks. Oh.

I'm excited to see. Yeah, I'm excited to spend Christmas with you. I am excited to come here on Christmas Day. Christmas Day. right i will be here christmas day and then i'll work on the edit and then you can edit it all day and i'll sit across the room and be like you're doing great yeah you're killing the game right now you're like no you can't go back to your family we have you have to keep me company while i work on doctor your gift to me is to be here for the next five to eight hours

while i edit and thumbnail and upload in the cell of this for the people it's red nail polish on those fingers who was wearing red well mel had red hair Maybe she took it. Is Missy? Is the paraplegic woman? Oh, that's right. She rolled over there. Maybe.

No one saw. Yeah. No one would suspect me. I'm in a wheelchair. Well, she can get out of the wheelchair here and there, so maybe it could be. I'm like, who else had red nail polish? Damn. No.

No. It can't be Donna. Donna becomes the new master. Master Donna? Dude, is that who I think it is? No. It's some random number. Damn it.

Spam. Spam call, sorry. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm going to be scrubbing for the next few hours for red nail polish. Any of the last? Nope. I'm ready to go home now. Yeah, well, get out of here.

Lonzi. It's a good episode. Like Delah's a great series of specials. I can't wait to cosplay as 15. Dude, you... Just be in my underwear. Get your underwear. I would be overjoyed if that's his outfit.

I think we're the Christmas special. You should just be... That's what we should just wear. So we should just wear. We should just wear tiny, whitey, box of briefs, and white button downs. And then we'll double down and do blackface. Yes, I think we should. It'll be like, hey, if the doctor can regenerate, why can't we?

Yeah, why can't we choose our face? I'll be the new Rachel Dolazol, baby. I'm taking the right lessons, aren't I? Yeah, this is, yeah, this is the woke agenda they wanted to inspire in us, right? Yeah, you should do it. I mean, I'm down for the underwear a bit. I'm down for the underwear a bit. bit so if we pull it off

We might be able to just keep it going for all the 2024. I'll have to do some squats in the meantime. All right. Well, if you made it this far, hopefully I don't know when we'll get that Christmas special to you guys. That'll be a while. It'll be February 2020. Yeah, I might just

catch up right before the new season comes out. Somewhere between Christmas and New Year, maybe in the new year. Who does? I need a minute and want a little bit of a break. Yeah, you should take a load off any. if anyone on earth deserves a few days off for the holidays it's Ryan Harry

it's Ryan Harry you don't do shit yeah I don't do anything man I'm doing nothing All righty guys well thank you so much for being here Make sure to buy yourself a Timmy Wibbley whatever I called that shirt Whibbley Wymie the doctor's lexicon or whatever And I can't remember what it's called Yeah you give it the longest title for a tuesday

t-shirt ever. Because it should be. It should be. I think it's the wibbly wobbly, timely, timely, timey-wimey doctor's lexicon. I had like, Tartis quotes, gallifrey speak. And I was like, nah, let's go. Wibbley-wobily, time me, why me, doctor's lexicon quotes. Yeah, man, it's good. It just makes them super, like, verbose. It's whimsical. The shirt is bigger on the inside. The name of the shirt is big, but you should see it on the inside. How trippy of a shirt would that be? You put it on and you're like, what? Oh, my God. I can keep it.

Take it off, and it's just like a small. It's just small. Like, how come every time put it on? It fits like an extra large, and yet it's a size small. Hey, this is great for shoplifting.

Just whoop, whoop, whoop. Maybe they should bring back James Corden. They should bring, you know, if there's one place, I'd be excited to see them. One time people like James Corden

who is off doctor. Because it's just the right amount. It's just the right pitch of James Corden. And he's believed. as that character i never saw james i never saw like oh i'm watching james cordon i was always whoever that guy is yeah i know slacker not slacker's his name again yeah but he's got the baby and yeah and the wife who never notices his absence yes hey man now that we're back maybe tenant can go see him

you know sure maybe he can surprise him like hey i know you spent more time with mad smith than me but I hope people, everyone who encounters 14 now is like, you're really boring when we're not traveling. You just don't shut up. Yeah. We know you travel. Oh, take me. Oh, you won't take me?

You just want to like get fat? Yeah, you just want to sit here and eat and comment on the molecular construction of all the foods that we have. Yeah. Or postmates all day? You just want to like, scientifically break down all the regular aspects of our life for the umpteenth time. That would be a fun episode If he finally decides to see him And it's just like super fat

He's just a busy body and he's fat Dona's like we can't get him out of the house You won't stop watching the TV Yeah you do like the classic bits Where he's like he plays Xbox online And the TARDIS all day Yeah oh my God Yeah he's got just like

A mess of cables running into the TARDIS door Just like a pathway of discarded chip wrappers It's hilarious It's a consistently hilarious bit. I do not use that word lily. You take character make them fat. They play online

it's hilarious. Yeah, and they get over-invested in it. Every time. Yeah, and then he's like, you know, bitching out some kid, some poor kid. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And he's got to have like a kid companion. Oh, sure. He's got a kid, he's got a child, teenage friend, the neighbor

friend. Yeah. Who comments on like, why is the loser, but the kid never notices. He's also a loser. for hanging out with this like older adult loser but he's a smart nerd yeah smart nerd child yeah and he finally yeah i think it's hilarious it's always funny it's always funny it's always funny it's always hilarious and i hope they do it i want to see adam sandler's doctor who it's gonna be good is that what he doesn't that's my boy no fine fine it's a hilarious movie I've got a way to go to it.

I got to do some work. Okay. I'll stop holding us up here. Guys, leave a like. Let us know what you thought of these specials and what you're anticipating for the Christmas special. Are you a fat gamer?

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And now you're always like, Mom. Mom, my Mountain Dew, Mom. By Mountain Dew, Mom. Get out of my room. It's out of my room. I'm on a campaign, Mom. It's hilarious. We're doing a raid right now, Mom.

Fat doctor. Oh, yeah. Fat doctor. Fat doctor. There should be a fit. Well, that's the next frontiers. We need like a body positive doctor. I was going to watch that.

That's James Corden could be the body positive doctor. No one's going to watch the face. No one's going to watch it. I will. No one's going to watch. I will. And then every episode is just thinly veiled messaging about body positivity. That's when these like rage bait YouTube channels are going to be like, can I, can I do thumbnails about this?

Or will I just look like a, am I just going to look like an absolute bully? Well, because, yeah, that's where I start to grow a condoom. Maybe I'm just fat-chaming. Oh, damn, which I mean, you know, people are happy to do. It's kind of sucks, you know, I feel like people are in a way. I would totally watch an overweight doctor. I was totally kidding. I find that so relatable.

I would watch an overweight doctor, and I feel like if anybody gets mad about it, that's when the bubble will burst because people are like, you know, we all agree that women don't belong on TV or black people, but like, there are fat people everywhere. Like, who cares? unlike women and black people. Al-on-Betis. Al-in-my-tummy. Al-in-my-tum-beetis.

Oh, I got you. I got you. It's the whimsy, wibbly-wobbly, timy-wimy-wimmy diabetes. Al-a-ha-a-le-le-le-bees. Yeah. And the adipose can come back and save the day. Oh, for sure, dogs. It's going to be good. People love them.

They got name checks here. Oh, damn, dude. Yeah. Look, I'm not going to say who, but there's a... But he's a Cosmic Wonder, and he did a video a few months ago. And he's showing me about how this other channel that has a few million subs where people have been calling them out for a lot of plagiarism lately. How they did a video with a very similar title.

And their thumbnail is almost the exact same thing. So if he's being plagiarized? Can you guys guess which channel? Oh, God. Put it in the comments. Oh, God, no. Who's... Who are going to do a patron of the day?

Shout out. Yay. Take it away, John. What name do we got? Hey, let's do the man, Chris Wammoth. Chris Wammoff. You know what you're getting for Christmas this year? You're getting a checkbook to write.

us more money for our live streams. That's right. Our official live stream executive producer. Every month you don't have to submit it to stream labs anymore. We don't have to do a live stream. Direct. Just put it in the tube in the wall and

it'll go right to the bank. I've already filled out all the information for you. All you do is sign it, date it, and boom right to us straight into the Wells Fargo account. We go. uh no for for christmas this year you deserve a good one you should come to l.a and take a tour of the luxurious real reject studios yeah it'll be a great two minute visit it'll be like a good 20 minute visit yeah well really stretch it out the visit you're thinking of this poster's from star wars this poster's a marvel post this is an office chair we got for free this is where we keep the tv uh no you should i hope this christmas you are able to enjoy your time with your

fiance because he is engaged to a hot Filipino woman. Oh, look out. I know, man. That's right. Widen up that bloodline of her. Yes. Dilute. Dilute to purity.

And sneak our white ancestry right in there. Make it happen, man. That's right. That's how you get a Greg Alba. Hey. Yeah, you have whitewashed Filipino blood. It's very conflicting personality traits. Italians got that, or in that in-between space.

Well, I don't know why I'm off. I mean, I assume it's some kind of Germanic, like, Wamhof. That makes sense. Yeah. Well, he's very anti-clay Nazi German. He's quite the antithesis to it, my friend. It would be a good cover, though, if you were a Nazi.

But Chris Wammoth, you are. a sweetheart and I hope the sweetest I hope I don't know if you believe in Christmas but if you believe in all the good that Christmas is supposed to be about anyway so I think it cancels out you've been our Santa that's for sure you're Santa and Jesus

I'll roll it into one thousand percent been our Santa and our Jesus and our Godzilla all at once everything everywhere atomic breath of gifts is what oh my God it's go it's a gift and he's destroyed the city but it was worth it because it was cool

because I got a Walmart gift we got some things we got some stuff appreciate you love you Chris thank you for all you've been doing for us and for being just the ultimate support and in all seriousness I hope that you are able to have a great Christmas with your

fiance and whoever else matters in your life no one else other than those people Merry Christmas Merry Christmas.