DOCTOR WHO “THE STORY & THE ENGINE” 15x5 Breakdown & Review
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00:43A fandom that I have really loved being a part of lately.Absolutely.So thank you, guys.If you're listening to us out or Spotify,or maybe on our clips in Schwarzschilder.We got clips of Georgetown now, by the way.We just watched Doctor Who.the latest episode um i'm gonna hand it off to john what i will say is we don't have too much time
01:06to talk um and i will say the one thing first is this might be my favorite episode of the seasonyeah um but john i imagine you know a lot to say you're pretty vocal throughout so please take ityeah i love this and i might i might i mean i think this has been a strong season therehave been a lot of striking episodes but this was definitely like a really nice it's interestingwhen a show like dr hood that's like anthological can give you sort of like oh this is abreath of fresh air. I'm used to variety, but, you know, this feels like something kind of newand untrodden. And I loved the idea that we would start the episode off directly kind ofacknowledging. Like, we have it happen in others contexts when we go to the past or whatever. But,
01:46you know, for the doctor to actually be like, I am now in this black body and it gives me thesedifferent experiences and I'm privy to a different kind of inroad into human culture this way.I thought it was really interestingand a lovely thing to touch uponand I feel likethis is an episode where I am anxious nowto hear other people's opinionsespecially to hear the opinions
02:10of black folks who might be watching the showbecause I'm sure there's a tonof cultural stuff thatwe are not exactly directly privy tobut I really like the way that it seemed likethey really immerse themselves into the culturehere with a simple touchstone at the startthe barbershop it's something that exists here i'm sure it exists you know in any part of the world
02:32where you know black culture thrives and flourishes to some degree or another um and yeah i feel likeyou know the theme of this had to do probably heavily with appropriation this idea of you knowi have been here telling these stories and they have been you know taken and people have run withthem and they've forgotten who authored the stories who collected the stories who you know has beenout here, you know, risking whatever and, you know, putting the energy into keeping the storiesalive. And that's, you know, to me, that touched into like the way that, you know, the soundsof a lot of music and the timbers of a lot of art are traced back to black cultures andAfrican cultures that are, you know, erased when those stories and sounds are taken and
03:15run with by other people who maybe don't even mean it maliciously, but are causing, you know,again, the authors or the originators to be forgotten in some way, shape, or form,and to have a character who, you know, is sort of driven by this want and this desireand this, you know, sort of endless search of, yeah, the recognition for being the custodian.And you don't get the sense that it's like a completely selfish thing.Like, it's because that acknowledgement has gone, you know, unacknowled, it hasn't been presented for so long.you get his bitterness and you get why he would want to kind of create this realm of storieswhere he can be in control and can obliterate the gods who have, you know, sort of, yeah,
04:01not given him his due for helping keep them alive and helping keep them, you know, relevant to allof humanity.I thought it was really neat and interesting personification.I loved the, you know, design of this episode from like the little flourishes like theclippers or the moving paintings that tell the stories, the touching on.you know it's like the corn rose thing i don't know if that's 100% true my guess is that it isbecause that just sounds way too plausible to be a fabrication comment below if you know but you knowthat i thought was a fascinating thing and i love that they used that and it felt perfectly
04:37in line with the episode in line with the show but also yeah like a kind of fantastical or a newinteresting thing to do a new clever way to work out of a situation uh yeahYeah, there's so much to say about this.But I thought this was really, really cool.And I'm really glad that they took the timeand compiled such a wonderful cast to do it with.What did you think?Well, like I said, I think it was one of the best episodes.
05:05This is my favorite episode of the season.And I think that it's one of those where, you know,like with any show or movie,you try to figure out what they're talking about,what they're saying and then at the end of the day all you can really do is go with yourpoint of view or your own interpretation of what they're saying and i can only leave with mypoint of view here and what i think this was at least what it highlighted to mewhen you cast shooty got what to be the first black doctor um male black doctor actually now you
05:41think about it looked it up while john was talking briefly joe martin is the doctor from beforeyeah um and shooty gotwa there's like two versions of how you could goabout when you do a different race or even gender is you either just treat it like as normal and youdon't really acknowledge it or you lean all the way in yeah and i think with chutee they have progressivelyleaning more in as time has gone on and this is the most lent in they've done yeah and i thinksometimesspecificityactually equals more
06:20identifiable traitsequals more empathyequals more universal speakversus separatingor feeling nicheyou know like this is a very hyperspecific episode of race and cultureand appropriation
06:36and I think that the way they handled itwhile being a bottle episodeby having this one motif where you cantechnically venture into likedifferent little short film vignettes was so smart on like a structure level and it got me thinkingabout quite a few things thematically that were a little bit more outside of specifically Africanculture which yeah I'm not going to be the guy to talk about that really that's the part ofthe coolness of getting shootikawa is that you can really lean into this and perhaps explore an
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08:47Thank you again, Liquid Ivy for partnering up with us yet again.Love you so much.To me, that's just awesome to see.That's the kind of diversity I like seeing.And this, so to me, what I was thinking about was how in a lot of ways the doctor can be considered a god.And in some ways, he is like the god.god of stories the god of collector of different he traverses the universe traverses different planets traversestime and helps out and collect stories and culture and everything and what they talk the way they
09:21illustrate the gods here uh in this show has been about gods who weaponize power and power being moreof the focus they even liken that to human beings in this episode when they're talking about hey the peoplethey produced music it was a thing that was alive and then asmetropolises grow as industrial as industrialization happenssuddenly we are now going like how can we ape this how can we copy ithow can we monetize it what's the factory version of this assembly that we can puttogether and how can we keep it like frozen in time and perfect and then how can wecontrol it and how do we control the people because human
10:07beings who often reach for such a level of power want to be that is their weird version ofconnecting of being like god so god's equaling power and you have the doctor here who could verymuch be a god it does not weaponize that power which then drives home further the strength of whatthat's what makes the doctor special like you even have the barber is is a great example of someone whowas mistreated by individuals with power. And now he seeks power. Now he wants what he feels isowed to him. Now he wants recognition. And then that lack of power, that lack of empowerment frompeople in power breeds resentment, breeds rebellion, breeds, rebellion, breeds anguish, breeds vengeance.and I think they managed to communicate all this in a way that managed to flow
11:07whilst being like, no, the true people in power should be the ones who know how to connectthe most to humanity and humanity people in power should be helping people less fortunatethan themselves. And that is the doctor. He is that great illustration of what makesthe doctor the doctor, the healer of the people.And, you know, then to top it all off by having something that has amazing camera techniques has great, like everything felt very precise when they wanted to mix up their angles or keep this in a longer shot or do these little zoom-ins and going over like his hair for the map and then going up on the ceiling, watching them navigate a map that looks reflective of his hair.I'm like, damn, this is fucking cool.and then the music here for a thing that calls attention to music very early onthe whoever composed this was fucking brilliant because it felt alive
12:09it felt like there was like a band off screen or like they put them in a room it was just likegiant like flowing it felt like the music was motivated by that thing he said about like you knowthe song when i played it the first time there was an elk over there and there were cloudsand then when i played it the second time it was a totally different situation the music's differentAnd it felt really personified.It felt like a personification of that.Yeah, I agree.I agree.
12:33And everything you said, absolutely.I would completely echo all those same sentiments.And, yeah, on top of that, with, like, great performances from everyone all around.This was one of the, like, this is like a carcophony of stuff that managed to feel like an appropriate cacophony.Yeah.And I'm sure it'll ruffle some feathers for some stuff.stupid fucking reason, but I think is, I thought this was a great episode.Yeah, absolutely. And to have the resolve be that he just goes and takes over the barbershop,
13:05he's handed down this place of stories from somebody else who's been the custodian of this place.That was really nice. And also, just the personification of like the story engine. I thoughtwas really cool. It's like, yeah, a brain with a heart inside. What a great metaphor. Also, too,it kind of resembles lungs, which you use to provide the air that takes the story flight, you know.And the, yeah, all the different artifacts that power the engine calling back to the Hemingway things.Oh, the razor.And the razor, yeah, like the design of that.I know.
13:37How cool with that.I'm like, what a cool doctor who like Easter egg like toy you could buy it.That was a fucking cool ass.Like that was that really bad ass.That would be me appropriate in African culture.But that's the razor I want.Well, but too, like even that thing of like that because, you know, like there's that whole thing about cornrows.and like when white people get cornrows and stuff like that
13:59and people are like you don't quite understandlike it it was great to be struck with thatI never got I never was aware of like anything abouthair culture being I thought it was more liketruth be told like a part of stereotype that I could not talk aboutlike black people in the barbershop you know likemore of like I was supposed to say that it's just a communitya communal thing that black people would have
14:22but you know but the whole thing with like the hair specificityI'm like oh damn I never even likeconsidered that that was a thing well and you can then again provided that all this is is basedon like accurate culture then you can sort of trace the roots of like oh no wonder a barbershop hasthis sort of cultural significance as being like a place of gathering because there's probablyearlier versions of that and yeah like not just in america totally and and so yeah that ideaof like oh it's not just about like it's our thing it's our style it's like there was a purpose herethat is also now being completely erased from right this tree
14:56tradition and so like yeah to be struck with that was really cool and uh you know that that razori saw it and i was like man whoever made that if they can make like the next sonic screwdriverthat would be wicked sick you know that'd be very cool um we do got to get out of here uh we have tomake this one a much shorter one yeah but i i love this episode uh i thought it was great no noteslove spider normally there's like at least one thing i would say being like you know what i coulduse more of or maybe they could attend this and uh this is like the this is the first episode thisseason where i don't have like anything that i would rather uh change that's because i just don't wantto look racist yes no great no notes and i well and even the timing like it didn't feel too
15:39rushed like i feel like of all the pacings of the episodes of the season this one has feltthey've felt increasingly proportional and this one feels the most proportional yet and verydoctor who uh with dialogue that felt like lyrics and poetry uhIt was a very poetic dialogue that was gripping.Like, it was written.And you hope to get back to hear his six-word story.You do, yeah.I am born.
16:05I die.I am born.What a great way to, you know, charge it up and to have this climactic story-based moment.Great character arcs around.So thank you guys for joining us.Can't wait to watch the Who Culture video on this.Thank you so much for being here.And we'll see you next week, Hoovians.
16:23Peace.Thank you.
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