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Episode Date: November 7, 2022

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Podcast listeners of the Reject Nation. We are here to do what are we talking about, John? What are you going to talk about don't worry, darling? Don't worry, darling. Starring Florence Pug and Harry Stools. And all of one direction. Chris P. One of the Chris's.

One of the Chris's. All right, guys. Well, this video is also sponsored by Wondry. Some more on them in a little bit. But hey, let's get to it. I disagree. there's a lot to be worried exclusively

things to worry about exclusively things to worry about all right okay well it's over now that's shit to talk about yeah I was enjoyable yeah

I enjoyed it I don't understand the guff this guy I I understand what I heard I heard that there was a divisive ending. So when I thought she was going to stay behind, and I was like, oh, that is bullshit.

Yeah. Because I was like, I heard it was a divisive ending or something. I don't remember what Rodot Tomatoes said. They said something on Roddenade. Yeah. So now I'm like, is it just divisive because of the, do you mean, like, yeah, the reveal is divisive or is it the actual? I mean, I watched it play out, and I was like,

I don't understand what the problem is. Yeah, I'm not upset really by any of the, by any of the, you know, place it chooses to go. I mean, I think the movie, perhaps, they're up on a Ron DeVanis. Before that, a word from Wendery. Thanks to Wondery for working with us again and sponsoring this video. And yet again, for introducing us to another fantastic podcast. One that I didn't expect to be saying is a fantastic podcast because it's a fantastic podcast. show that I was like kind of up and down about there were some episodes that we really didn't

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Yeah. sure why not yeah i mean it's a pretty big chasm between the uh the critics and the audience and i and i would be with the audience on this one i would be with the audience on this one because it's an enjoyable it's enjoyed it i like the i like the tone i like the world the first like 30 minutes especially reeled me in enough to the point where i'm like i don't know what's going on but i want to know yeah you know i want to i want to i want to i want to understand what's happening and you know things did start once you start piecing

together pieces of this that feel derivative of other things you've seen yeah then it starts progressively becoming like okay I'm figuring this out before the movie's telling me what's happening I'm figuring this out yeah yeah so it does become it's not like instantly like I figured this out from day one from the second it started there's like some clues I don't I don't know what it was some type of subconscious clue that felt like it was modern day that's why i questioned it at the top of like oh this is in the past day um yeah i get what you mean because i think i think they do wisely in the early moments to sort of there are places that do feel a bit timeless and i was thinking of palm springs because palm springs is a place that's kind of like that at least in my

recollection of it so yeah i feel like that's that's intentional and then they do a good job of steeping you further into the idea that this must be the past but but but you Yeah, there's something. And I think that's a nice nuance of tone that is kind of tricky to strike to get you wondering, are we in the time and place that it's suggested we're in? Because something, yeah, doesn't seem quite like we are. Yeah, man, like a good sci-fi story, you know, Matrix is, like, arguably my favorite movie of all time. I'm really bummed about the cancellation of Westworld, but there's a lot of,

other than the Android part, there's things that involve a lot with my manipulation of the, subconscious reality distortion and whatnot and uh you know realities that are not real in one's own mind and so it's like there's a lot of qualities in the way the tone and the editing and the style of it it was made you were you were pointing out under the skin yeah there's up in the skin you said black swan at one alice and wonderland reference like there's a lot of things that most the village the village justice for the village yeah there's a lot that feels very um yeah derivative of these qualities but i don't know maybe if i saw it into you know what it is if this got like a 95 percent i'll run a tomatoes and then i watched it then i would have been like

i don't know guys i don't know if i'm there with the critics yeah but you tell me 34 percent and i watch this i'm like it's not that bad come on it's pretty it's an enjoyable film it's i thought it was really enjoyable especially because the the acting from especially Florence Pugh and Chris Pine who's that's a character who doesn't have that much screen time when you think about it but it's the kind of villainous character whose presence needs to be felt throughout like you'll hear him on the radio a lot everyone's ideologies and their way their entire way of living is all formed around this cult leader yeah and who they want to satisfy and get validity from is from this dude so yeah I think that was well done and like florence pews like phenomenal as always like there are parts that are midsamar it is such a midsimar type of thing to me yeah you guys have seen it have expected to see her covered in flowers at the very end yeah just watching harry burn up in a bear's costume yeah and then you know some of the societal and modern-day political commentary i that's why i'm more

surprise the audience is more and more because there's some very modern day political commentary sad guys who feel emasculated who just want to transcend their station with their chosen partner and how do they do that? They go back to the

good old days. Yeah. Where all you had to do was stay home honey, live your life and I'll go do soul crushing work in order to maintain the illusion. Yeah, I mean there's lots of gas lighting and there's lots of just the ideas the idolizing of

yeah the especially sort of 40s 50s past as being something idyllic and when you like deconstructed is a lot of terrible things oh yeah yeah for sure that we've done more modern day time

you know like shit like Mad Men and everything that really shows yeah exactly absolutely and so yeah it's you know it's again not illuminating this for the first time like you said it's it's doing a lot of things other media has you know tread the ground

of but I thought yeah this did it with at least a very assured tone a lot of really good filmmaking a lot of you know quality performance like like all the work on display is pretty quality so like it's a weird comparison to draw but I almost in this moment I'm reminded of what's the Tom Cruise Morgan Freeman Joseph Kaczynski. Oblivion. Oblivion okay yeah oblivion is like clearly this is derived of many other sci-fi movies however I still like this whole kind of thing and I would say that I felt the same way about this but maybe more so like I maybe like this more than that

and yeah like there's a fair amount of commentary you can draw on you know especially societal and gender politics and yeah like especially the way you have Harry Styles as this guy who's clearly a bit of a deadbeat

and who clearly wants a better life for them both they're both struggling they must have some kind of genuine relationship but he's you know it's no coincidence that the fantasy he ultimately gets pulled into this gift he thinks he's giving her, yeah, removes all of her, or at least much

of her autonomy, it removes her vocation and it puts all that stuff on him, you know, and it, yeah, it swaps it all out for a very traditional gender role. And that's, I mean, maybe a bit straightforward the way it's like, you know, you basically do all the work in supporting

us, and I wish things were different. But yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, for the mystery. What did you think of Harry Stiles? You know, I thought he was fine. I thought he I kind of agree with the things I had heard beforehand. It's like I didn't think he was bad.

I thought there were a lot of scenes in which he was good. I thought he was a, you know, you really believe him when he and Florence Peer canoodling, I feel like, the most. And, you know, when he's in these... Do you know, enjoy those scenes, yes. Yes, they do. And, and, you know, when he is

in a more power position, you know, when he's like breaking down in the car when they're taking her away. That was a moment where I was a bit like, okay, like, you know, maybe get a few more years of acting under your belt and then you would be able to really nail a scene like

this. So I see some of the limitations, but I wasn't sitting here going like, oh man, why they cast Harry Styles aside from his status as a celebrity? And it's one of those things. Like, he showed up in Dunkirk and I was like, I'm not distracted by

this because I can see how and why you would bring a person like him, even with his status in the modern world, into a place like that and what it says about, you know, who had to fight that war. And also, he fits within that era. So then going to another story that's, you know, within

you know, a past 1900s, decades aesthetic, you know, 30s, 40s, 50s-esque, you know, deco, mid-century, modern, things like that. Like, he fits this time period well. So, you know, it's easy to kind of yeah like there are things about his boyish charm and his shiny appeal that lend themselves very well to this movie so i wasn't saying they're going like weird choice if you couldn't get shy el abuff because then you think of shy alabuff and you're like i could definitely see him in the modern day sequences i'm very curious to see how he would fit into the fantasy of it all i think he would have been i don't know if they would have made him british in the fantasy i think that would have been very distracting i find that more distracting than harry style's doing an american accent

And remembering that Florence Pugh is British doing American through this whole thing. Oh, my God, she's British, is this? That's right. Oh, my God. Always blows my mind. I totally forgot that. I hear her voice and I'm like,

I like, this is the kind of, on a personal note, those are the kind of voices I tend to be most attracted to. Sure, sure. A little bit of a raspy. Yeah, she's got a little bit of smoky.

Yeah. I feel you. I feel you. Yeah. Yeah, not so much like the, high-pitched voices so you know that's all woman sound oh yeah i'm scarlet like this we're all animating girls that's my gemma's real voice yep they all sound like that it's really annoying actually slina gomez has the kind of voice that i'm talking about it really like yeah yeah she got that

rest too uh but um what uh wait I think, I think sometimes it is hard to, to look past some of the, all I've heard about this movie is the drama. So, but I feel like I, for them, I did a, I feel like on my personal end, it was easy for me to look past it for most of the time and just watch the movie and not think about those other things other than a few jokes here and there. I think Harry Stiles's performance made more sense to me once the, twist was once the reveal took place like the more subdued because I think what you might

imagine what what I think the idea of casting him would be is that for most of the movie when you're in the fantasy world you'd expect a guy who's really going to fully embody the fantasy and really be sort of the the presentation of it all really embody the presentation of it all the quintessential successful man in this paradigm the very charming very charismatic big personality to then have a contrast when you see the modern day and you're like he's not that at all he's actually just like a pathetic self-loathing guy this greasy dude yeah yeah so i think they wanted to have that contrast whereas i think what harry styles was doing was keeping that guy in the modern world alive in the fantasy world and that's why i had more of a sub like every other guy

was sort of buying into the fantasy yeah where he kept it a little bit more like he was aware of the fantasy and kept it subdued so I guess it's really down to him that that's the least I'm not I don't feel like I'm giving the benefit of the doubt I feel like that's what he was doing his performance and I guess it really comes down to is that choice did that choice work for the movie or was it kind of like I'm not really sure it's like I felt like there should have been more of a of a gravitational pull a more of a magnetism to his performance is I guess what I was getting at. You're supposed to fall in love with him too.

Yeah, and I was always like, he's fine. Yeah, it's like he's fine, he looks good with her, and I get how this relationship works. I'm not in doubt that they would be together. However, Chris Pine brings, you're never like fully not suspicious of him, but there are moments where he brings that, like, I see what people get suckered in by this guy.

Like you mentioned that Jordan Peterson quality that he has. Yeah, it really is a cult leader of me, Jordan Peterson-esque meets Yeah, because I've listened to a lot of motivational people, and I've heard some Jordan Peterson talks that are good, and then I've heard some that are really that are quite perplexing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

I'm not going to say all of it's bad, but there are things that I've heard where I'm like, I wonder if I'm going to work with this. Yeah, and I feel like that's a good, it is a good stand-in. While it's not a one-to-one, he's clearly this guy, like it's a good stand-in because I think that's part of the Frank character's deal as well, is

there's probably a lot that sounds very reasonable and very appealing and then there are those nuggets where you're like whoa whoa hold on wait we're going to extreme measures for some of this stuff yeah but but yeah like there's with the harry styles character yeah the magnetism i think is a good word it's that's the the gap that needs to be filled but i appreciated the performance what i'm saying though is that i did appreciate what he did in its totality once i got what he was really doing when after the reveal was shown yeah because within the fantasy world the part that felt the most real in terms of a big acting performance was his ending moments with it with her um oh yeah they're like fighting it out in the room where i'm like okay like it was all sort of like his whole performance started making sense like the choice sort of really making sense to me yeah the truth yeah yeah so um yeah not that it was like a perplexing but yeah i want to like I'm fucking like

dissect the Harry's top performance I think it works too because of the way the movie captures the perspective like it it does keep you so in Florence in Alice's shoes and so from her perspective that even when you are in intimate moments with them you're still disconnected from everybody

else yeah so I feel like yeah that that lends itself to his performance and the other ones as well well yeah because there are times where it reads like is he green is he withholding charisma like when he's dancing and stuff it was it's like such a weird way

of going about it yeah but then suddenly when you know the reality you're like oh it's all the whole performance suddenly click for me on the choice he was making yeah you know yeah uh but no i mean to me it's like this is florence pew's movie from beginning and like she's

she's so phenomenal and she's just a character who's like thrown into a crazy scenario who's walking around the whole time going what the hell's really going on. Yeah. I was almost reminded to mother at times

in ways. Yeah. Yeah. Which is like another one of the bar. Yeah. Just start

naming off this kind of move. I'm the only normal one. Everyone is crazy. Everyone's gaslighting me.

I swear I'm not insane. Yeah. But then you know but it's also like, but you're really special. Yeah.

You're the special one. You're the one who's going to break it all apart. Yeah. Um, And then, you know, I think what Chris Pine does is really clever because sometimes very overt in what he's doing, especially with the writing.

But other times there is that type of sneaky insidious quality, you know, even when he's like drawn to Florence Pew, it's like a, it's something that feels provocative and not a teeny bit. not a teeny bit supportive of someone's potential yeah it's something to play more games with oh sure yeah yeah yeah it's the cat and mouse and that's why that's why it's like i'm disappointed yeah when she plays her hand he's like no i mean i wanted you to like you know keep unraveling this at a slow pace and yeah prolong the game and make it some kind of twisted tete-a-tete instead of yeah, directly, you know, trying to wreck this thing I've built for all my bros here. Yeah. I guess the movie's like not as like clever as maybe he wants to be in. It's not that revelatory

necessarily. But it's a really, I think it's a really enjoyable movie and it was fun to play along. Like I had fun playing along with the movie, you know? Yeah, it captures its mystery well enough that I, yeah, I and I think you were there always hooked, always like, what is? going on, always a little on edge, always suspect of things, like, and yeah, that makes it a fun, engaging experience, and so, yeah, I would put this in a

category with other films where you're like, yeah, this didn't reinvent the wheel, but it rolled it with style, you know, it rolled it with a plumb. Yeah, kind of like the movie, oblivion. Yeah, kind of like the movie oblivion. And some people really hate that movie, and then I see it, I'm like, well, yeah, I see what all your inspirations are, that's fine, I still

like what you did with them. It still looks good. I would still, you know, I'm not champing at the bit to watch it again like ASAP, but I would happily watch it again. Yeah. See what other clues might arise. I really thought a movie like this would get way more hate commentary of

pushing agendas and stuff because this is like so 20, 22. Sure. Sad, lonely dudes who just want to lock their best girl into an old timey fantasy and run their lives. A woman being oppressed and wanting their freedom after

being chained down by men. And also, and other women helping to bolster the system, you know, that these toxic men have set up. Yeah. You know? That whole thing, like, and for all the crap Olivia Wilde has gotten

for this movie, like, I liked her supporting performance. And that bit at the end is pretty heartbreaking. Where, like, the way she played that moment where Alice, like, confronts her about, like, do any of the other wives know? Like, clearly, she is complicit in this horror.

And you feel for her, because, yeah, the whole thing about the kids, like, and, her loss in that, but also the immense amount of suffering and just the immense wronging of all these other people at the expense of trying to maintain this fantasy for yourself. I guess I want to understand some of the other

chumotief choice. It would be fun to go back and watch this to see what some of the intentional choices are with some of the mirrors that linger or when what's the girl's name who? Cut her on throat. Marlene. Margaret.

You're probably right. The girl from Chippendale Rescue Rangers. Oh, that's her? Yeah, that's why I kept making those stupid tales jokes because I was like, I must be missing some...

That's the only place I've seen her. Yeah, she's the cop they work with. Is Margaret? Yeah, that makes sense. I think so. Like, when she sees Margaret in the mirror, like, I don't quite get this. But, all right.

Sure. I think, yeah, I mean, Like in terms of the rules of what's going on. I'm talking about the rule. Like, thematically, it makes sense. But rules-wise, now I'm like, wait a minute. Are you doing some thematically that contract that goes against your rules now? Now that I understand, this is a virtual reality program.

It's just a glitch. You don't realize. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Or is this just a pure hallucination of some kind that just because Margaret is in your subconscious, that's what's showing up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's probably probably just did it right there. The rules.

The rules. I made up the rule I'm fair. But yeah, no, stuff like that. Stuff like that is fun to dissect it. Yeah, I mean, you know, you have that other bit where she's in the many mirrors of her bathtub. And then she's got her one face that doesn't move. You know, like I guess, yeah, mirrors are the windows to the subconscious in this movie. And then I love that bit with, I mean, like that is, I think, like a pretty overt, you know,

magical style choice when the wall presses her up against the glass, just show. knowing how constrictive this fantasy life has become. She's got to break through. She's got to break through the glass ceiling, the glass wall. I want to be smart. And I'm sure I can go. And I can, I'm sure I can find my way into it via conversation of understanding. Because obviously the things about like, you know, creating the perfect woman with the ballet.

But I also didn't fully, there are parts of me that I'm like, I don't quite get the ballet part that they kept cutting back to with the black and white and the haunting imagery of it. Like why specifically this ballet imagery is something I can't really articulate. It feels like it makes sense, but I can't tell you why it makes sense. There's not like one specific explainer that comes to mind. I feel like it's sort of an amalgamation of like, okay, it's very, if they're talking about symmetry, it's very symmetrical, and in that way, it's very hypnotic. So, you know, that goes in line with the sort of brainwashed element. But also, I mean, the life that they are doing here is a sort of organized dance, especially

for the women, it seems like, because, you know, you got the dudes going outside who have to work and hate their lives for 12 hours a day. But, yeah, the women are a part of this weird, yeah, synchronized, choreography that they don't seem to have any control over that's running on this loop and so yeah and I like stuff like that where it's like they're cutting to it periodically and you're like

yeah what is this what does this even mean and then finally at the end you're like okay they're projecting this this is part this is actually diagetic in some way it's in the film as they go into their hypnosis you know alternate reality state so I feel like I

picked up on that early in the movie and then it kind of lost sight of me as it kept doing like as it kept cutting back to the haunting the haunting visual part of it like when they were actually just doing ballet it made sense

I had that but the haunting visual stuff I was like I don't quite get the the horror I kept going like did you have like a ballet back around what's going on? Well that was actually it's funny I think we had the yin and yang because I was like okay I think I get with a point of this you know like old timey footage they keep

chopping in but you know like they actually have to go to a dance class You know, like it seems like they could be doing other things. But, yeah, I think that's just making, that's following that motif, probably because they're all staring at it. That's part of their lives now in here is because it's so in their subconscious. Yeah, we all go to dance class. And we get to have our Black Swan reference to. And I think, you know, I'm sure Olivia Wilde directed more of this than people say.

I mean, this is my first, I think, Olivia Wilde joint. But, you know. You haven't seen Booksmart? No. Oh, that is a hilarious movie. I'm excited. I want to see it. It is very similar in tone and style and cinematography. Okay. Yeah, I bet.

And then symbolism. Two girls who are having a hard time saying goodbye to each other. They're caught in the oppressive paradigm of academic learning, of academic pursuits. That was a funny-ass movie, that movie. Yeah, no, and I think it's impressive that she can do a movie like Booksmart and then put something like this together which is just such a different film in every regard

like there's not you wouldn't think for one second it's the same director and I think it is really impressive that she was able to do that and I like everything on a technical scale from art design production design beautiful the music is very haunting love the music it's a great score

it's a wonderful score and and I think yeah the direction I thought was good and I don't know. I feel like there is something that I can't quite put my finger on that feels like it's a bit missing for me in terms of the ramp up pace of it all. I guess I kind of wanted it. It might just be a want, but I felt like I do feel like it could have gone a little bit more anxiety-ridden.

Sure. you know i think it could have it could have gone like mother it could have gone like black swan where it's just like this is fucking versus spiria yeah this is just like a madhouse now yeah yeah lean into that they they did the whole thing with the blood drop and the eye dilation and i'm like lean into that like weird beyond the black rainbow like surreal symbolism like yeah like really go horrific i feel like if they had really breached the outer sphere into horror because it's you know it's a pretty solidly a thriller of sorts And two, I don't know if you would agree, but I feel like you could have maybe done a little bit more in the grunginess of the present to make things feel a little more substantial there rather than just like, oh, here's the reveal.

Yeah. Yeah, and I think that's part of what, there seems to be a lack of an extra punch to it that's missing for me. Yeah, I feel like I would want to, I don't know what, and I don't know if this is quite it, but I feel like, yeah, in those present day moments, if it had said, maybe. one extra thing in that environment in that context it might have felt like you said that thing earlier about this feeling like one of those movies that thinks it's a little more clever than it actually is and I feel like that is kind of a part of that mixture I'm like okay cool here's a reveal but you know it maybe might be cool to get another revealer or another sort of layer or nuance on top of that especially because so much of this begs the

question of like what are all these other people not that we need to see everybody in the real life but even maybe like seeing frank at one point in the real world or something like that yeah i would have i guess it it feels like it would have been cool like if she was i think that the missing beat for me personally i'm not a big fan of being the guy who's like here's how i would make your movie i'm not i'm not a big fan of that well actually here's how i would make go for it anyway um what i was sort of missing for me was really the because obviously it's going down the so like from the very beginning and from the tiny bits i remember from the trailer uh that i think i saw like once in the theaters is that yeah she's going to go crazy when everyone

else is she's going to be uncovering the truth everyone's going to think she's crazy when she's not right and i think like her descent into going crazy could have hit home harder and then it could have really had a like a gut punch when Harry styles does not ultimately decide to leave with her so then it could have it could have probably helped sell that when she's back in the world like oh this is how the movie's going to end it's going to end with her she's been brainwashed again and she's back in this world yeah and she's just plopped there like it's a tragic end you can't escape it. yeah yeah like it could have sold me on that but I was like

I think the movies just was also aware that no that's not how it's going to end so let's hurry through this mislead and it just like kind of sped through the time when she's back and it just went by so quick yeah that it was like let's get to the part where she remembers it again I feel like they could have you could have yeah either convinced us more heavily of that of the fact that yeah maybe she is just going to go back in and and repeat the cycle and I think you maybe could have we all know that by the end of the movie like we all know she's right

that she's actually and I think that you could have maybe teased us with like even though I think we would always know if you at least given us some reason to go like maybe she is a little crazy or at least maybe what she's seeing isn't exactly what the

truth is even though something is off whereas you're pretty much always certain that she is absolutely right about what she's been Yeah. Something that really does feel like an anxious, claustrophobic mess as opposed to just doing visuals that represent a claustrophobic mess. Something that really feels like that. And it didn't quite give me that feeling. But I was always watching and focused on like, what's going on. I want to know. I'm enjoying it. And I'm having fun trying to figure out what's going on. Yeah. But in terms of the feeling, I'd ever quite felt what Florence P. was going for in spite of the fact

I'm aware she's phenomenal and exceptionally believable I never found myself truly in her shoes I never found a true self a true self doubt in the performance like I felt I felt her

increased paranoia and fear of the circumstance pretty sure like yeah but pretty much once things start to feel fishy she is assured I didn't really ever get a sense of self-doubt or Or, you know, just the debate within that comes before you decide, no, something definitely messed up is happening here.

It seems like she pretty much catches on really fast, which I don't want to necessarily begrudge the character for being resourceful and observant. But at the same time, for what this movie is trying to achieve and for, you know, again, like you said, it's engrossing the whole time and that helps everything out. But there's not much in the way of misleading you. It's more just like, what truths keep not being revealed? yeah you know instead of oh i've i've been uh you know swindled by something yeah i i do think a performance like this as much as i kind of respect the choice that she never really quite goes

am i crazy yeah as much as i respect the choice because it's a predictable choice to do that at the same time i'm i feel like that would make it more human and would have helped elevate it and it kind of feels like it's sort of like i'm thinking like this or sometimes feels like it necessitates the character really questioning am I losing my mind? Am I crazy? Is this me? But instead it is a very much

I'm committed to knowing it's not me. There's something else happening. Well, I think that could make the journey a little stronger if you again, I don't want to take the strength of the character away because I kind of get the argument for that as well because

there is so much made out of the gaslighting that goes on in this movie so many people are just trying to finesse her back into the status quo and yeah I don't think it would be reductive to have at least an instance where some of that gas lighting does get to her in a very

focal way and then you have to transcend and shatter that barrier like that would feel like a greater sense of growth if you had that initial doubt and then no no no I was definitely right and now I'm not going to give up and now I'm going to confront Frank at the dinner table in front of

everybody and be brazen and not care you know yeah what probably would have made that moment hit a little harder if she hadn't committed to like no there is something wrong with me it's not them yeah yeah maybe i will take my medication yeah yeah and and then frank confronts and then it's like oh oh shit yeah yeah she's just gotten back on to no no no no i'm you know what i was wrong everything's fine and then he reveals that to her and then it's like oh no wait what if i done yeah and i think it now i gotta double down what What would have helped, too, is I think if there were, like, now we're in full rewrecked or is that's what we're doing. Let us, man, display the movie to you. Another draft is what we're doing. Yeah. Well, yeah, we're not like, this all would add another 10 or 15 minutes to the movie.

We're not changing the movie entirely. We're just like, no, we're just adding a little bit more in there of what I think could have helped it, like when he is promoted. Because what comes before the Frank unveil. you know like he's cluing her he's letting her know like no you're right you know um you're on to something but in private when he does that scene in the kitchen between what would have helped between that is if there was a confrontation i think between harry styles and florence pew of you know her being like i'm telling you you you know she's going off and he's saying like

this is my big night this is my promotion and you're making this about you like they get into like a really heated argument and that's when she can come back to reality of like I am savage like she can take on the blame of like I am sabotaging I'm sorry I don't mean to I don't mean to do this you're right this is your big night I need to support you like if it if it created a real problem between them the fact that he was promoted and she wasn't around for it and she was in her own fucking world and he's like doing a big old song yeah and she's not there being supportive at all it creates a real like riff in their relationship and that's what helps propel her so it's like all right everything's gonna be back no all

and fight for let's let's see if frank can come over for dinner like it's her idea and then and then that happens at the dinner yeah and i'm like oh damn that would have just made the attention of it rise and it would have made the relationship between her and harry styles feel i think that's would have given that anxiety thrust sure yeah and because thinking about that moment i mean in in the moment i wasn't like ah damn you know they really missed out on an opportunity blah blah but no i never i wasn't thinking any of this was watching yeah yeah but during but But thinking back on that sequence, it is like, I thought a bigger conflict or acknowledgement of, like, you know. Especially with the thing in the bedroom.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm like directly bringing that up. Those are two moments. Yeah. Like Olivia Wilde in the bathroom is like, is Jack's big day. You're in here. You know, like, you're thinking about yourself and being a child.

And there's never really, I don't really recall much of a acknowledgement of that situation with Jack much at all. And then, yeah, you have that whole thing where he points out seeing them in the. bedroom and because it sounds like she slept with him sure does it sounds like and you would think that amid all these different

lies and illusions she would want to be like no that's not what happened you know don't try and gaslight me further in front of everybody and make me discredit me in front of everybody further I think with this discussion what I do think is truly missing from this movie

is capturing the relationship between Florence Pugh and styles feeling like the heart and soul of this movie so that way it feels very tragic by the end yes and because because the tragedy doesn't hit you're waiting for their relationship to dissolve yeah yeah like you don't really buy into it you feel like there's something just suspicious about him all the time something's always wrong and it's rarely ever like nah this is right these two belong together yeah you're like huh maybe he's a good guy you know it it it doesn't feel the tragic parts of it that

that wants you to feel like the tragedy don't hit. That's why at the very end I was about to be pissed off with the movie because it doesn't feel heartbreaking to me when she's thinking about her time with him

of the choice that I'm going to let it go like it doesn't feel heartbreaking to me at all I would just be like no you're being stupid go yeah especially with how the reveal

is portrayed where it's just like this deadbeat guy kidnaps his girlfriend puts her in a simulation so that he can have his ideal life with her well it's like they mainly just it's like there's no it's just like sexual with them and and and nice it doesn't ever really feel like a real relationship to me other than you got actors who are just really going at it and they're bonding you know which in a weird way in a in a conceptual way I don't necessarily begrudge the movie for given what we see of the reality like Clearly, you know, they make a point in that scene in the kitchen where he's like, come on, I want to play around. She's like, I've been working for 30 hours. You know, like, and so it makes sense to me that their relationship would be so sexual and that would be so much of what we witnessed.

But the interaction is not anything. It's just so like, base line. It's like they had to have gotten together for a reason in the real world. And I still don't know what that is because you only see the. what could be construed as positive in the simulation. And thus, you don't really, I didn't really get a sense for the bedrock of their connection, yeah, of their relationship to each other.

Yeah, yeah. It felt, it felt like they were, it felt like they were paired together. It felt like a lot of these couples were paired together by somebody else in a way. Yeah, no, that's why I kept thinking the flashbacks were like, yeah, and maybe that was intentional to make it feel like, oh, that's a different, it's not a real husband.

Yeah, it was intentional. because it's not the real him um but still anyway no it's a fun movie had fun though i enjoyed i enjoyed it i enjoyed it i was too much crap i had a feeling it wouldn't be as bad as everyone said no i liked it i liked it no i didn't overall i would say i liked it and i liked it i liked quite a bit i'm excited i'll remember this movie yeah this will be one of the one of the films of 2022 i think back on like yeah i'll remember this and uh i would love to see olivia wild branch out into more strange surreal genre stuff. Like marriage story.

Like marriage story. Yeah. I want to see your take on Revolutionary Road. How many more references do we pack in here? Other divorce movies. Whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blue Valenzhoues.

There you go. There you go. We miss any of there anymore. There's some of that. Ted Lassau, the movie. Yes. let's see the really positive version of this now

in the movie that's where Frank is the protagonist he is Ted Lassar it sounds like it was a nightmare to put together and it's turned out pretty it's pretty all right for that I thought this isn't this doesn't feel like a crazy hodgepodge mess like it definitely doesn't

it just feels like yeah I feel like I could have used another draft but it doesn't feel like oh yeah the fucking problem one of this movie How embarrassing. No, not at all. Surprises are not all right. No, there's tons of interesting stuff, and there's tons of good work.

It feels like if there were problems, this would be the same movie. Exactly. Yes. No, no, no, really. Because it is a very assured and very steady-handed movie. You know, it doesn't come across choppy or anything like that. No, no. Or tonally imbalanced.

A bit rushed at times, but I think that's out of your ordinary movie. Yeah, that happens, you know. It's her, what, second feature film? i think so so you know i mean impressive yeah all things considered yeah definitely you know this could this could have this could have fallen so much more flat and it's really courteous of a director to let your lead actor direct a lot of your movie that's right man i don't know what's true i don't give a shit i will take it that olivia well directed 99% of this man yeah any any day harry wasn't on at least all right guys well what do you think about don't worry darling leave your thoughts down below go

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