The Reel Rejects - DUNE: PROPHECY 1x05 Breakdown & Review!!!!

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Starting point is 00:01:27 Oh, I was thinking of the eyeballs. There's so much eyeballs. Like, what's happening in all the eyeballs? Yeah, I feel like a quissat's Hatterok. I'm in the future, but I don't know what's happened. Got it. Yeah. Andrew's been practicing these works.

Starting point is 00:01:38 I've been saying, yeah, for like two weeks now, John, actually. I have not slept. That was so much. I was like, what does it even mean? And then I was like, oh, right, I'm rendering RAM. All right, we're going to find out what Andrew already knows. Hey, two, one. Oh, he's about to pull that issue.

Starting point is 00:01:55 I, Lude. Yes, he is. I get a sandworm for you. Oh, wow. Oh, boy. Well, that is personally what I was hoping episode five with me, which is back to the power of what the midseason felt like. That penultimate was pretty great.

Starting point is 00:02:10 If you're listening on Spotify or any sort of podcast, we just watched episode five of Dune Prophase. Only one more left next week. One more. That's a lot to wrap up in one episode. It really is. I have a lot to say, but I want to hear from you guys first. Andrew, what do you got?

Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah, I enjoyed it. I thought the most interesting thing, I mean, amongst a lot of interesting things. Volia's, I feel like she's losing her grasp on everything, just in terms of, like, all the students are starting to leave the school, I guess. And also, too, people are questioning her, the sisters are questioning her. You got... Well, I mean, Mother Superior? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Valia, right? Volia, yeah, I just mean she's...

Starting point is 00:02:54 She felt the least control of subsist. Yeah, yeah, that's what I meant. and like... Until you, too. Yeah, well, I mean, like, you had the... Well, like, you had the fremen, and then the... I feel like the, like, from the body language, I feel like the face-changer one, you know?

Starting point is 00:03:07 I feel like she... Face dancer, right? Is that what they called it? Whatever. Someone in the comments was like, that's a thing, and I was like, I read the books. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I feel like, too, just from her body language, that she's, you know, questioning her as well.

Starting point is 00:03:20 So I feel like she was losing grasp and control, but I like to all the different... manipulation again from everyone is trying to like get on the chess pieces or like you know the maneuvering through everything I thought that was fascinating as well yeah no it's interesting

Starting point is 00:03:37 stuff I love the inclusion of the mother of Constantine with Taboo she's a great actor yeah yeah for sure so I'm curious to see where we go with that and I didn't realize like again that shield was going to be so protective as well

Starting point is 00:03:54 it's interesting because it's slowly He said he should have died. Yeah, I'm thinking it's concussive, preventative, right? Because in the movie, like, when they go slow, can get through. But I'm guessing the impact, it was able to, like... Yeah, there's just so much... Yeah, so much force. He's probably all ricocheted off.

Starting point is 00:04:09 And dude's got control of heat. So maybe he's used to a little toasty. We see him cook people. For sure. But I think what I just said, though, I'm curious how the last... I'm looking forward to the last episode, but it's a lot to... It's going to be a lot to unpack in the last episode, I feel like. So I'm...

Starting point is 00:04:24 This doesn't feel like a... a show that's going to be finished on it. That's what my that's what my worry is absolutely what my worry is going to be. But I did like all the stuff too with Lila and all that. Like I love her performance. Like she felt completely different, which is obviously the point

Starting point is 00:04:41 than she did from like her meager former self when she was playing Lila. So I thought great versatility from that actress when she was playing Mother Raquel or whatever her name is and the other memories that she was encompassing from the former ancestors that she was doing so that was great i'd love that and i really feel like

Starting point is 00:05:01 ballia could be and even tula could be in severe danger once she's kind of unleashed in the next episode possibly yeah i agree oh yeah no i think they're both at at high risk volley obviously more so and it's been funny to watch yeah or fun interesting to watch her descend in a way like she always has her sense of resolve and that i mean she wasn't even in like a ton of this episode but like every little moment as each episode progresses you feel the desperation just a little bit more

Starting point is 00:05:32 ever since that whole ever since she was shaken up by Desmond now everything feels like every time she describes a contingency plan it sounds like she's also trying to convince herself of its viability we planned that yeah like with the squeak

Starting point is 00:05:49 contingency for a contingency of a contingency I meant to do that thing that happened at us that he lived through this explosion we've got plans for that you know and then she's like I love that whole thing between her and her nephew and him like

Starting point is 00:06:03 that was great because to introduce that concept that deceit whatever it might be through just him and Desmond at first so you're like okay like maybe he is like with that character you believe like I could see why he would turn away from

Starting point is 00:06:20 Valia's influence and help Desmond at the same time, I can see how he would double agent this, and I don't know which side he's going to ultimately wind up on, and I think that's fun. And then Tula certainly, like, is in her own way losing control of everything back at, you know, the sisterhood H.Q. But watching them, yeah, go back and forth with the Acolyte who isn't having the dreams, and everything with Lila and the other, you know, Mother Superior who's there, or the other, you know, lady of great status who is always there. Not Maggie Smith, I will call her. I was thinking so many things.

Starting point is 00:06:54 times. I'm like, she'd be a great what's her name? Maganagall. Yeah. There was some big Maganagal energy in this episode. Absolutely. Good Grandma Wendy. Yeah. And yeah, like, you know, the various other things, like this, I would agree, is one of the stronger episodes of the season. You know, the Constantine

Starting point is 00:07:10 stuff, he's one of those characters that's kind of hard to it can be kind of a thankless character, I think, to play because it's like, angst guy. I think he's doing a great job. Yeah. The actor, I hope, if you're watching this actor, great work but such a nini and that's the strength

Starting point is 00:07:27 he's a stubborn yeah no but his but his acting is good yeah he's killing it as a nini and he's not just it's not the I wouldn't necessarily say that his defining trait is coward as I think it's just that he doesn't have a place or perceive himself as having a place and he's angsty

Starting point is 00:07:43 about that lack of place and I get why and I think it's a better version of this than I've seen in a lot of other shows where this character would be flat out annoying right But, you know, there's, I'm curious and potentially excited to see that character perhaps rise into a bit more of an interesting type of role rather than, you know, what it's been up till now. I think he's going to help his sister out in the next episode with something with Atreides. That's my guess. my thoughts real quick

Starting point is 00:08:14 I really like that the Harkinen guy his arc is seemingly more interesting that I had feared much like the cowardly character Constantine I was afraid that introducing the Harkinens he'd be kind of one note and only serve the purpose of that one

Starting point is 00:08:30 like scapegoat betrayal and I really like that in this episode there's a lot more to him because I was worried that the Harkinans and the Atreides are the roots of what I know of Dune so I was afraid that we'd be so focused on this stuff that they would be kind of background

Starting point is 00:08:46 characters so we'd be like oh cool they're involved I really like that especially at that reveal at the end I again we don't know this collective lore I know it's in the books but I didn't know that Desmond Hart was a you know like I said Biggie for core it's really interesting to see this culmination in the Hark and

Starting point is 00:09:02 Trades be so vital so I love that we've got an Atreides that I think is going to end up winning even though he's currently suspended in the air and all that stuff like him surviving feels very pointed and important, but I also love that the other Harkinen is on a mission that seems like it's going to do something

Starting point is 00:09:17 other than him just have that one moment in the courtroom. So I really dug that. Desmond Hart is as ever very interesting. This episode felt like the culmination of a lot of arcs in a penultimate episode. My biggest concern is you touched on a little bit. I don't think this show has done as well as it needs to

Starting point is 00:09:33 do a season two, at least from like at least from just like the optics on other review channels, other reaction channels, like you see, you know, if we get 5% of the 100% of people that are watching it, that's you know, I don't know what the ratio is, but I do

Starting point is 00:09:49 see the numbers on reactions versus other shows. I don't, we don't have TV guide anymore. We don't have like Nielsen ratings. I have no way of knowing how this is doing. That's why streamers should have agreed to sag contracts about revealing stuff because we don't know if shows will continue if this made money.

Starting point is 00:10:05 And the actors aren't getting paid because it's on stream. But it is, it is interestingly tricky with streaming not having the back end knowledge for going forward. Like, I don't know whether I should expect a cliffhanger or not. I don't know if this was considered a limited series when it was incepted versus is it going to be a limited series. So it doesn't feel like one of all. There's so much, there's so much doing the finale.

Starting point is 00:10:29 And that is, you know, not to denigrate. I love that Max made a swing to make something bold and heady and super dense and something with so much lore. I'm just worried that if it doesn't feel like. it comes to a conclusion with the numbers not being we don't know what they are it's just concerning so i i miss tv getting more time to breathe and and flesh itself out i miss you know 22 episode seasons i miss uh i miss there being a time where you could fall in love with the show and then it get the time to find its audience we don't live in that time anymore so my concern is that we're on episode five i now really like the my point of all that rambling i really now like

Starting point is 00:11:07 the modern version of these characters not just the flashback versions but it took until episode five. I said pretty clearly in episode four, I'm like, oh, no, I like flashback them. Now with episode five, I like both ages of them, and we've got one more hour with them. So I, is my main concern is that whether that feels like closure, whether that feels when we got her journey, I'm now invested, perhaps too late. So I'm really curious what happens next week because of that connection to these characters.

Starting point is 00:11:33 And I think it's more a symptom of societal expectation on shows versus the show's fault it is a slow burn sci-fi and i think that is really hard in 2024 to make and to do so i want to thank everyone responsible for giving me these five hours i'm very hopeful for the sixth hour this episode was dope rejagnation i'm here to interrupt this video just for a little bit to let you know that for a limited time at rejagnation shop.com we have exclusive apparel just like the one i am wearing right now on my body this is a reject sweater the brainchild of the she checks terra ericson and Roxy Stryor. They really were like, you know, we don't want to just only do a Christmas one. We want it to be a full holiday celebration. I absolutely love this design. I've been

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Starting point is 00:13:17 and I agree with everything you said. I also, too, would have loved if they would have made the Machine Wars as well. I would have been all for that as well. I feel like that's more of a common trope, so maybe that's why they avoided it. Yeah, no, no, no, I get that too. I get that, too.

Starting point is 00:13:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. I totally get that, and I get that comparison as well. But, yeah. I really dug the spice. in its like I love a land of scum and villainy and I really just love the idea of like spice being this great treachery

Starting point is 00:13:46 that's traded and used for thousands of years like I really love that as currency it's one of the reasons I really love Dune is like the underbelly of drug culture being used in a way that's like you know going to this club and everything and then like it's just a really fascinating world now that we've gotten to live in it long enough that like I'm invested in this era of Dune as well

Starting point is 00:14:03 I hope we get more but yeah I really like this episode I feel like everyone's duplicitousness was really brought to a head in this episode. I feel like you mentioned like there's the them, the betrayal, and then there's the emotion. Like I love that there's all these different spheres of them that this episode really kind of shown a light and who everyone was. I love that peacocking Desmond Hart got to come out to play. Like he's been like little like I'm a little mischievous boy. And then this episode he's like, I got pockets on my belly. Like he's just strutting around peacocking with his boys.

Starting point is 00:14:30 There's just so much that like even Mark Strong who's we as a. you know, movie and TV watchers, Mark Strong has this command in his presence. Every episode we've commented on how cool it is to see Mark Strong play something different. He's not in control. He's not the leader that he should be. He's not these things. I love that this episode, he's playing the general Mark Strong type role, but he's still playing it with cracks. And we have lived long enough with him to see that he's like doing his bravado, but we know the real him.

Starting point is 00:14:57 And that's really cool to see. Like this episode really feels like what I've wanted it to feel like in the modern day the whole time. But you had to get here. It's a sloper. So I really dug it. When you get a good sense, I feel like of that thing they always talk about with like, ooh, the Benjessera, they're planning things over centuries and ages. And it's like between different characters, I feel like you kind of feel just instinctually

Starting point is 00:15:20 the different like rings of time and proportions of time. Yeah. You kind of feel like, okay. Because that's kind of why I got confused at the beginning of the review, because it's like the stuff happening at the school is all kind of, you know, it all affects her, it's related to her. It's due to big aspects of her leadership. But that also is more immediately in the moment affecting Tula,

Starting point is 00:15:41 because Tula is the one like he's actually in the house, doing the research and working with Lila and all that other stuff. And you can feel that they're both working towards the same end, but on two different scales of time. And like that stuff is really cool to feel in a show that obviously is supposed to have that kind of instinctually in the DNA. And yeah, you know, the whole, you know, I like that. what's her name at the bar got some the fremen yeah she got some good moments

Starting point is 00:16:10 immediately became a favorite yeah yeah yeah she's been like background cool but this episode was like oh that's why I've been like that's cool character yeah like this episode really launched her into importance and that was a great reveal I liked how with the tradies and like there's that whole theme in this about betrayal

Starting point is 00:16:24 uh and the sister garb coming out of the yeah yeah yeah for sure for sure yeah I really dug this I'm excited for the finale we'll be back next week with the episode 6 finale and friggininez I was going to say I love that scene where she interrogates her one yeah that was great actually you know because I'm really curious about

Starting point is 00:16:42 what's going to happen with her because obviously like to be Constantine to be his sister's protector he's also got to ingratiate himself to dad which is going to initially drive her away so it's like you know again that scale of planning is like kind of tricky to parse in the here and now which

Starting point is 00:16:58 adds to the fun of finding out next week who is going to go and yeah I'm curious to see where she heads now in light of this and what that might mean for what Constantine is trying to do and what his mom is trying to set them on. I think they team up, take out the family.

Starting point is 00:17:13 I could see that, yeah, for sure. I think Mark Strong gets taken out by his, he's been full of doubt this whole time. I think they use that as a weakness. I think Constantine messes up and causes something to go wrong. I think we end it with Desmond and Mama Bear in power

Starting point is 00:17:31 and daughter and handsome, McWest Bentley in power and and the Atreides Harkin and stuff ramps up in some way. Yeah. Those are my thoughts. And I know we've always said sisterhood above all, but I think this episode also reinforces that Valiya just does not care about anyone. Anyone at all.

Starting point is 00:17:48 Because we talked about contingency about, you know, from contingency to contingency. Oh, I knew that might happen, so I have this plan over this plan. But again, like this Fremen who's a sister to her or a sister, she just lost her entire business.

Starting point is 00:18:04 It took her years. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's okay. It was worth it for the cause. It's like... That is totally some mother's superior shit, though. That's like... No, no, no, I get that, but I'm like, no ounce of remorse or anything. I'm like, nothing at all.

Starting point is 00:18:17 Like, that's... She didn't have remorse when her own literal sister killed my own family. I love that evolution. No, no, for sure, for sure. Yeah, but I think that could be her undoing possibly. Oh, I definitely think it is for sure. Yeah, I think that's a seed planted. Yeah, for sure.

Starting point is 00:18:30 So... Dune 5! Awesome stuff! Really dug this one. We'll back next week. Hit that notification bell so you know when it drops. Spoiler alert, Sunday. And also, leave a comment below.

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Starting point is 00:18:53 We'll see you soon. Tyler Haig. Tyler. If there's anyone at our Patreon page, who I consider the sandworm. the patrons oh it's definitely Tyler Hay I would love to see Tyler just cresting out from below the dunes you can see it mouth wide open you're just driving on the highway passing through Las Vegas that way you can get to the next better state but on the right side you point and

Starting point is 00:19:25 it's rumbling there's Tyler oh he's cresting cresting out oh with his mouth wide open and all of his, you know, brill teeth. There goes Timothy Shalamey. He's riding Tyler Haig. Playing a Bob Dylan song. It doesn't stop. Never.

Starting point is 00:19:41 It never stops. Never stops. Never stops. Never stopping. Just like Bob Dylan's greatest hit. Bob. That he did with Johnny Cash. It was good feet as we call it in the biz.

Starting point is 00:19:50 So yeah, I think Tyler Haig is the ultimate sandworm. And then on top of that, too, why now? We're talking about, dude. He's the ultimate, what's it called the, uh, the synogababab. Oh, he's the Lisan al-Gai'i. Yeah, yeah. You are both the Shai L'Ighlud and the Lisan al-Ga-Ipe. And, you know, you might even be able to drink the blue, you know, the water of life and trip out.

Starting point is 00:20:15 He has been producing blue urine his entire life. Dude, you've got to get that checked out. Yeah, you do, because... First give us some. I mean, oh, my God, yes. You can go on that Vision Quest. Blue shower, like Luke Skywalker Craves. Disney sequence.

Starting point is 00:20:31 trilogy get that cyan spray i think these are more enjoyable if you're just listening to them watching us just sit here and riff you're just like on the car ride and you're like what are they what are they doing not a lot sitting here the key to improv is in um podcasting is just overlap each other yeah calmless bag let me let me let me ask you this stuff let me let me We swear on this podcast. We swear on this podcast. Oh, we've already started. Oh.

Starting point is 00:21:02 Anyway, Tyler. We'll see you soon. Buddy, Merry Christmas. Happy Christmas.

The Reel Rejects - DUNE: PROPHECY 1x05 Breakdown & Review!!!!

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