The Reel Rejects - DUNKIRK (2017) MOVIE REVIEW – CHRISTOPHER NOLAN'S MOST IMMERSIVE FILM?! - FIRST TIME WATCHING!

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Starting point is 00:01:02 Done, Kirk. Okay, we should just get to it. We should start, Kirk. I'm going to tell you if people listening to us, if not one person has a migraine yet, we're not doing our job. I have a migraine. We're sold on it. Let's go. Here we go.

Starting point is 00:01:19 This video is brought to you by Zoc Doc. More on them in just a bit. Damn, dude. Okay. The rescue and liberation of the old. Wow. That was quite the ride, y'all. I really liked that. I kind of came in today not thinking I was going to like the film and I really loved it.

Starting point is 00:01:39 I cried like three times. I loved it. Okay. That was really good. And I, yeah. Yeah. We just got done watching Dunkirk. Guys, if you're listening to us on Apple or Spotify, it gives a five-star rating.

Starting point is 00:01:52 If you're on the YouTube, like, comment, subscribe when you do ring the bell. Ring the bell. Also, join us on Patreon. That's the best way that you can help support this channel to deal with a lot of copyright strikes and claims. Also get 15% off. I'll reject nashop.com gear. Greg and John off for exclusive highlights. Watchalongs over there. Patreon is really just what keeps this channel going. So it would be great if you join over there. And also you get a full week in advance of the schedule. So you get to ask us questions. Anything you see that we're watching, you can send them in Patreon, which is super cool. All right. So Jackie, why don't you continue with what you were just saying? Then I'll get to Paige. How are you feeling about this? I really, I just really enjoyed it. I know that I didn't, I knew what it was about going into it,

Starting point is 00:02:36 but I know a lot of people when they've spoken about this film, they say that it's very much, you're thrown right into the action, which is true. And I feel like I've heard it described as more of an action film with less heart, but I think that there was so much heart and so much really incredible commentary, obviously on the state of war. Like, the father has the line. Like, no, I'm not going to turn around because why should I do that well?

Starting point is 00:03:00 our children are off to fight the wars. And I thought it was so interesting that just the whole time we pretty, did we ever see a German soldier really? No. And I loved that I loved that we didn't see the enemy in a way because it kind of highlighted just seeing the drones attacking from above. It highlighted how impersonal war is and how the people that make these decisions to send us to war aren't going to fight it themselves.

Starting point is 00:03:24 They don't know what it's like. They're not there on the ground. And it was heartbreaking. obviously World War II is slightly different because that was a war that absolutely did need to be fought. And then the other thing that I was just going to say was obviously one of my favorite parts was the score. I loved that I'm second generation immigrant. My grandma was in Sicily. They fled when World War II was getting really bad and she just describes being a child there

Starting point is 00:03:49 and just hearing the nonstop sirens and drones. And I loved that that was such a central part of layering in the composition of the music. It was really, it made me think so much about that and just made me very thankful that we got out of there, got to the States, because I might not be here. I'm happy I made it. Yeah. Yeah. How about you, Paige? How are you feeling about this?

Starting point is 00:04:13 Yeah. I mean, I was ready for another war film, but I actually kind of feel like that was like a survival. It was a really. I mean, there was not a lot of combat, really. Right. Jackie and I've been watching a lot of war movies too. No, you have been. That's who the audience wants on their war films.

Starting point is 00:04:33 I think that, I mean, it was a different take for sure. It was really emotional. And I agree, especially, like, from the distance. Because, again, we're not seeing a lot of war films taking place in the water and in the air. I mean, the cinematography was just out of this world. I don't know how you get shots like that in the water or in the air. or in the air, it's just mind-blowing to me. Again, just kind of like you said, too,

Starting point is 00:05:00 it was so powerful with pretty minimal dialogue throughout. Direction of the actors. I mean, but it was all action, too, you know, and without it being war. Like, that's just, it was definitely a very different take on what I was expecting for a war movie, I guess. I think Harry did pretty good, too. I enjoyed him.

Starting point is 00:05:24 I know I expected him very bad. Yeah, no, he was pretty decent. I think they were all really solid. Yeah, it was way more emotional than I was kind of expecting it to be. And again, I just think that's really powerful to do those things with just images and such little dialogue and just really, and so many wide shots, especially at the beginning, so many just wide shots, which made that storyline so interesting. Like when we thought we saw a hand come out, but you weren't really. sure and then we circle back to that. It was just really clever,

Starting point is 00:05:58 really clever things. And I will say, too, there were so many times where, as the opposite to that, it felt kind of claustrophobic when we were underwater so often, people getting smushed into things. And that was just a cool juxtaposition, in my opinion. It was great. I think the broken up storytelling, going back and forth, in between timelines,

Starting point is 00:06:20 you sort of realize it in the beginning. and then when I really grasp it, it's more towards the end. It took me a while. That's the same shot. When Tom Hardy's shooting is seeing that boat get shot and then tip over. So I knew it was going to tip. Then you start to go, oh, I know what's happening here. But it takes a while for you to kind of catch on to exactly what's going on.

Starting point is 00:06:43 But I love that it's told in a nonlinear way because then we get a chance to sit with each and every one at almost the same point we're seeing their stories unfold in the time of war, right? When we're at like the mole and it gets shot down and now the guys think, you know, the tide's coming in, they're in this boat but they're being shot at.

Starting point is 00:07:07 Meanwhile, you know, we've got a ferry or Tom Hardy trying to let down the enemy. He doesn't know how much gas he has. His friend's already down. I don't even think he knows if his friend's alive or not. Like there is just the, utmost chaos, obviously, within war, but we're actually able to see the story unfold just right

Starting point is 00:07:31 in front of us. And it's done really well to the point where you really do feel like you are either drowning, you might be on fire, you're in that plane and being shot at, or you have the enemy in your sights, and you better freaking take him down. Yeah. Like it makes you feel all of things when we were in that place. And I think that's what a good film will do, right? That's why it's cinematic because you want to be taken out of here and into there, into that world that they're giving you. And I think obviously Nolan always does a great job of that. But this very specifically, without a ton of dialogue, a lot of action really highlights the speck of humanity within war. and that in this specific crisis,

Starting point is 00:08:24 it was the everyday man who became the heroes of the war that we were dealing with at that moment, right? Which is a really beautiful story to tell. Like, I didn't know that that was, you know, the case that it's everyday people who are deciding to be very courageous and brave and go and help to save these people from the beaches.

Starting point is 00:08:48 I just think it's a really cool story to tell. And so I understand why maybe Christopher, it was written and directed by him why he would want to write such a thing and show it on such a big scale so that we really get the grasp of at the end how beautiful of a story it is to tell. What's that shot in IMAX?

Starting point is 00:09:06 I feel like I saw that somewhere. Okay. Yeah. Cool. I wish I'd seen it in 70 mil. I'm kind of sad enough. Yeah. Would have been very cool to see IMAX

Starting point is 00:09:17 you can see in the, in the wide and the master shots that they're giving us those obviously for an iMacs you would be there is one specific one where they they stay on it and there's uh three soldiers here and like four shoulders off to the side and it's just the beach and it's we stay there for like a good eight to 10 seconds and i feel like if you saw that on an iMac screen you would feel like you're on the beach right right yeah That you're only divided by maybe 10, 20 yards, and you're there in the midst of this,

Starting point is 00:09:56 which is just that's what a film should do. It has to take you and grasp you in this environment. And it doesn't mean that every film has needs IMAX in order to get you. That's not the case. But when you are dealing with IMAX, it's those kind of wide shots that do engulf you and make you feel like you're right there, which is very cool. All right, guys.

Starting point is 00:10:16 Let's get to our Patreon question. First one's from Captain Fernandez says, Hey ladies, hope you all are doing well. This movie marked the beginning of my annoyance with Nolan's insistence on nonlinear storytelling as a way to create tension. The real Dunkirk story is extraordinary and has real emotional depth and weight.

Starting point is 00:10:35 No need for narrative tricks. Are you guys still on board with the whole nonlinear thing? Or would you like him to explore a more straightforward style? All right, Captain came with thoughts. What do you guys think? You know what? Now that you pointed out, I would love, I think that maybe a more traditional form of the story, I loved it.

Starting point is 00:10:54 I thought it was very interesting, but do I think that a more linear version of the story could be even more impactful? Yeah, I'd like to see it. I wonder if it did feel a bit indulgent at times. It's cool that he was able to pull it off, but are we pulling it off because we think it's going to make a more impactful story? Are we pulling it off to be like, look, guys, look what I did? That's what I think. Okay, what about you, Paige? I like it, actually.

Starting point is 00:11:20 Whoa, whoa, we're in a fight. I like it a lot. I've always liked nonlinear. I like fractured timelines all the way through. I just think it's, I kind of like feeling like I'm having to do a little work while I'm watching it, figuring it out. And I also, again, just feel like we've been watching a lot of war movies. So to me, that just made this a little more unique, you know. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:43 What I will say, I'll fight back with you on, Captain, is that. In your point in saying the real Dunn Kirk story is extraordinary, has real emotional depth and weight, what I don't think was lacking is emotional depth and weight. I still think it was very much there and can still be done without a straightforward style. Right. So in your argument, if that's kind of what you were saying, I don't mind that it was nonlinear. I also think it puts more of a trust in the audience's hands to catch up. I always complain about American television.

Starting point is 00:12:16 but BBC doesn't do a lot of exposition, meaning they're not relying on a script to be a second screen script. They're just going to give you a story and expect that you can keep up with the clues that they're giving you. And that is what a non-linear... When you go to the movies, luckily,

Starting point is 00:12:33 you're not having all the screens to deal with, which is why I think people like that cinematic experience. But I think that, you know, within this, there still was, along the way, a lot of emotional depth, a lot of weight, especially when we're seeing real humans deal with the weight of war and like the backlash

Starting point is 00:12:52 of it, that there's even just a kid who decides to hop on a boat. And he doesn't even die in war. He just gets... Yeah, he falls down the stairs, right? This is stuff that happens in war where there's just, they're still accidents. There's still just human nature things.

Starting point is 00:13:11 There's still even people saying, hey man, you're in the oil right now. We get that you're trying to save us, but those soldiers are also warning him to get the out of here, even though there's more soldiers still in the water. Right. There's bits of human nature throughout this that I think still adds a lot of weight,

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Starting point is 00:15:23 Anyway, they're great. All right. Next question. Jay and Gwyn says something I enjoy about these war movies is how seemingly ordinary skills of civilians can come in handy during wartime. My favorite example here is Mr. Dawson guiding Asana how to avoid. enemy gunfire from a plane. Do you have any favorite scenes like this where a civilian demonstrates their abilities in a crisis?

Starting point is 00:15:48 Do you guys have any favorite scenes? Page? I mean, we just watched The Patriot. And though he was kind of a civilian, I guess, at the beginning, right? Because he had been in another war. He went primal on some people at the beginning of that movie.

Starting point is 00:16:03 Like, really? That's the one that's coming to mind for me right now, for sure. I love that. The one that immediately pops into my head is from, I don't know if it's my favorite ever of all time, but my favorite scene just didn't, because it's fresh off the top of the dome right now from this film was, it's less the ability and more a demonstration of empathy. I loved when the son said, yeah, he's going to be okay to the soldier and just shows kindness in that moment. That brought me to tears.

Starting point is 00:16:31 And that was, that was just really, I loved it. I really loved it. Yeah. Yeah, I felt like that was a nod to him having like a really good day. too, who kind of taught him, like, we're not going to upset this man anymore who's already really upset. Yeah, totally. I wonder, my question back to you, what about some female characters that show up in some

Starting point is 00:16:54 of these movies? I can't think of any. There've got to be some. I didn't see any in this film. But that one lady was giving out tea and blankets. But I would think that there should or could be some more examples of women, civilians, kind of stepping up in war time. Not to give like props to Marvel for female representation

Starting point is 00:17:16 because they don't think they deserve that. But in the Captain America films, there's a great female character. Oh, yeah? Oh, good. Okay. They don't deserve a problem. Let's get it together.

Starting point is 00:17:27 But it's fine. She said, okay. It was fine with that. That got her on board real quick. I think, Janguin, you know, for me, I'm always telling people to grab a weapon. I think there's too many demonstrations

Starting point is 00:17:41 where in a lot of the movies that I think the abilities in a crisis is when someone can figure out how to get a weapon, a brandish one, and kill the villain. That's my most favorite thing. And I mean, there's so many, I mean, obviously in every horror movie

Starting point is 00:17:59 that I've watched, I feel like I'm constantly yelling at people. You know, I think Halloween does it in a good way where there's a strong female lead and she finds, even in the very first one, which is why I think it was so wildly received, is that she finds great ways, innovative ways where I always want to film to use their environment.

Starting point is 00:18:20 Meaning, we don't need to have a character who has a gun in their pocket. Use your environment. If someone came in here, I would probably just grab this right away and whack them over the head. Use the environment, right? In Halloween, she does that.

Starting point is 00:18:33 Strong female, she takes care of business. Yes, she does. So I think that's where a civilian demonstrates a great ability in a crisis where you're using your brain, which, number one, sometimes they don't give that to women in a horror or no more stuff. Nope, they're always stupid. Like in the terror fire films, piss me on, just so you hate women. They're always very, very scared or they're like, can you help me show me how to use this? And I don't like that, as you know. So I think that's why I really, really like rioted for that movie,

Starting point is 00:19:08 especially those moves, which I had a lot of fun with. All right, cool. Let's go to Jaden Rhodes. I feel like one day we will be able to watch all the World War II movies and somehow get to watch the entire war from the beginning to the end. I think that's kind of cool, my opinion. But my question, what will be y'all's favorite World War II movie? My personal favorites are saving Private Ryan and Hacksaw Ridge.

Starting point is 00:19:31 What do you guys think? I need to look up with that film that I was talking about earlier was. Okay. I don't know. I haven't seen either one of those. I always say give us multiple choice on the. Yeah. Saw Ridge is a great, great, great film.

Starting point is 00:19:46 Love that one. So I might go with that one. What was the one that came out a few years ago? It was a year. What do you mean? Was that 1921 or something like that? Oh, 1917? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:56 Was that World War II? I don't know. We can look it up, though. That was a great movie. That was a. Can you look up World War II? So let's see. It was a year.

Starting point is 00:20:07 You know. Oh, yeah. Is that a World War II film or am I thinking of a different one? Okay. There's a lot. Thin red line, it's a good one. Saving Pride Ryan. Oh, Loury's Bastards.

Starting point is 00:20:21 Let's see. Pacific. Let's see. 1917 is too early for World War II. I think that's a different war, I fear. I think so. Does Atonement count as a war film? I love Atonement.

Starting point is 00:20:44 That's the movie I was thinking of. That's, you found it. Okay. What was it? Atonement. Okay. Well, he has a fictional story, but like. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:20:53 1970s first world war. War films have to be true stories. It can't just be a film centered around war. That was World War I, though. I guess you could, you could make one, Jack. I feel like you want to. I really loved the film Atonement. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:09 Okay. Why? It's just a great film. Okay. It's heartbreaking. There's the twist. It's really good. Okay.

Starting point is 00:21:15 And there's that, and I thought of Atonement because there's a scene where the soldiers are all stuck kind of hiding and waiting to die because they can't get out. And then in this film, when Harry Stiles and the boys were all under the deck of the bone, they're getting shot at, and they're just kind of like sitting ducks. Made me think of atonement. Okay. Good film.

Starting point is 00:21:34 Sad film. Devastating. Yeah, it doesn't sound super uplifting. Sorcia, what have you done? All right, I'm going to take our last question from Jay Rush, and he says, what armed forces would you join today if there were any? No. Which there are some. What branch?

Starting point is 00:21:51 Absolutely not. I say if you had to put a gun to my head, I think when I was in high school, I wanted to be in the Navy, but I wanted to fly like, like, like a gun. jet planes, right? Like fighter planes. Because I thought that would be super cool. Thank the goodness. That's the Air Force, though. Born with.

Starting point is 00:22:10 But I still, I wanted to be on the Navy. Oh, you wanted to land them on the ship? Yeah. I got you. Like, I want to be up in the ocean on a, on a, you know, where you're like, oh, we're on the outskirts. I'm not on land. I don't want to be flying over the states.

Starting point is 00:22:24 I want to be flying over the ocean and take care of the beaches. That's what I would have thought before this movie. Yeah. If I had a gun to my head, shoot me. or I join the Peace Corps. That doesn't count, though. But I'm in for helping out of course.

Starting point is 00:22:39 No, I support our good soldiers that are fighting that get trapped into the military industrial complex, but I do not support most of the wars. I'm with you. I was going to also say, thank God I had flat feet. Couldn't do that. I got bulging discs, so suck it.

Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah. At this point, I would never do that, but in high school, it was a different, person. Flat feet, huh? They say no. I've got them.

Starting point is 00:23:05 They say no to flat feet. I would have loved to fly planes. I am not afraid of heights. I actually am probably the only person in the world that still enjoys flying. Even commercially. I just think flying is fun. I really do. And I actually have very good vision.

Starting point is 00:23:21 But I'm not interested in joining any armed forces. I'm with you. But gun to my head, Air Force. Good. I don't want to land it on a ship, though. That sounds horrible. That's how I get them to answer. Gun to your head.

Starting point is 00:23:35 Gun to your head. Let the gun go off. I don't care. Boom, I'm dead. She wants to land it on. Well, if you joined the military, you would have known how to disarm the person with the gun to your head. True. Well, I could just take a...

Starting point is 00:23:47 Well, I could take a glass somewhere else. I don't have to join the military. True. She could. We're all right. Do you guys have a favorite scene in this? Go. I have a favorite line, and it was because of the fear and greed.

Starting point is 00:24:01 Fate pushed through the bowels of men. Yeah, that was good one. That was great. I wrote that down. Yeah, there weren't a lot of, like, epic war speeches in this, really, per se. Right. I have liked that it was all acting. Yeah, I agree.

Starting point is 00:24:14 Again, like, I just feel like we've been watching so much more stuff. So, yeah. I really liked the scene. I think it was when the torpedo hit the ship that they were all. I mean, just that the water, we were like, it was, you know, like Titanic, it's like so slowly filling up. I liked that it was like, we were. instantly underwater with these men that were all just enjoying their toast. Totally.

Starting point is 00:24:36 I thought that was a really cool scene. Yeah, I'm with you. How about you? They took us there really, really quickly. There was a very interesting scene at the end. Tom Hardy's in his plane. We are kind of thinking, okay, you're having a peaceful moment where he closes the glass. And we cut to the other side of him, where we now see the town in the background.

Starting point is 00:24:58 That was an insane shot. And I do not think that it was maybe practical. I think maybe the plane was in a warehouse and maybe it's CGI. If it wasn't and it was practical, which it did not look CGI to me. That to me was one of the most amazing shots. It was very peaceful. We still didn't know. I was like, it got very quiet to the music stopped.

Starting point is 00:25:21 Yeah. All you hear is just and you're like, oh, okay. I'm in my head, Tom Hardy right now. we're in this plane. Do we see all our friends die? And now we're just going to crash into a mountain. I honestly, I don't know. But it was beautiful to see the colored landscape behind him of where now we actually got to see Dunkirk.

Starting point is 00:25:46 Yeah. Honestly, because we're really just ocean beach until that moment. Yeah. That one shot. We are overhead. We actually, it's like colorful too. It's not just like a boring. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:00 Totally. Very colorful background where you're like, yeah, there's, you know, there's life here. Or there was, you know, in existence. So that was probably one of my favorite shots. I thought it was great. Did you guys have anything in this that you didn't like at all? Or did you love it all? I really enjoyed it. I have a final thought that's positive. Yeah, let's give it. I just, I really loved that there was such minimal dialogue, especially for a story that is so centered around like 300,000. and people that have PTSD, it felt really accurate to me and getting to watch the different people in the state of freeze and then he moved into fight. It was really, it felt accurate. Yeah, I'm with you. And I talk about PTSD after every movie review. What about you, Paige?

Starting point is 00:26:47 I think something that we all mentioned, but just needs to be noted again was just the sound design as a whole. It was really, really, really good. I feel like there was, can we look up? Can you look up how much like C.E. was actually used because I feel like this movie actually got props for doing a lot of practical stuff. Definitely looked like all.

Starting point is 00:27:07 It looked fantastic. What year did it come out also? Yes. I do want to, I agree that the score was great, but I'm going to argue with you about the sound design like I feel with every Nolan film. Can we turn it down a little? I'm going deaf.

Starting point is 00:27:22 That's a part of the immersive experience. No, I'm going to lose my earring. We need to all watch Sound of Metal. Almost no CGI. Yeah, I thought so. That's sick. 2017. Wow.

Starting point is 00:27:34 Oh, that's awesome. Did it win anything? Sorry, we can go. I'm sure that it did. Let's look up the wins, really. Let's see. Best sound mixing. Well, wait, which one means they won?

Starting point is 00:27:51 I have a word for best film editing, best sound mixing. They won probably another. See, BAFTA for best sound. A lot of sound editing. Best Foreign Film from the Donatello Critics Movie Choice Award for Best. But Jackie needs to put in her loops. Loops?

Starting point is 00:28:10 Yeah, they're like noise cancelling little earbuds. They would help you. That's really a lot. One a lot for sound and editing. Yeah, it was great. And for limited CGI. So it does mean that we were looking at Dunkirk. The only thing that used CGI was to take things out of frame

Starting point is 00:28:29 that they didn't need there. Cool. So it wasn't like to put stuff in. My brain just went there because I thought, how do you do this? Right. How do you do it? Because it really did look, I don't know. They really sunk some ships.

Starting point is 00:28:44 Yeah. Right. Yeah. It just looked really, really phenomenal. And especially, of course, in the mid to close up shots, you're going to use a lot of practical, especially when I first saw the guy where I said, oh, it looks, it's humanity against the.

Starting point is 00:28:59 go before he's on that weird big boat. That obviously looked practical, but so did obviously all of the other tankers and destroyers. But when it tipped and fell, I was like, okay, we're, all right, let's go, man. Practical all day long. This costs so much money to me. Yeah. Like a stupid amount. Yep.

Starting point is 00:29:18 Let's see. We'll just put this last thing in. Dunkirk budget. I'm going to go $3 billion. I don't know. Billion? $4 billion. $100 million.

Starting point is 00:29:29 Oh, okay. I'm just naming numbers. Yeah, I have no concept of numbers. It's very hard for me, honestly. Yeah, the budgets that I work with for the events, the stuff that I produce is not anywhere near the millions. It's not 100 million, Jackie? I know, get there.

Starting point is 00:29:45 Come on. Like and subscribe. It did gross over 525, so it definitely did well, which is good for $100 million film. That's obviously, you know, globally. we would want half of that in U.S., but hey, they're still getting paid. That's a plus. Love this film.

Starting point is 00:30:05 Had a great time. Christopher Nolan is dope. Good job, Chris. Thanks for your films. I guess turn them down for this girl here. We kind of, I guess we don't really mind it, although we did, I did turn it down. I turned it down first, yeah. My apologies to the viewers, because at certain points I was.

Starting point is 00:30:24 No, I was. I was like, I'm not going to. I'm not going to leave my hearing. Wait, what happened at the beginning with our table, though, you guys? I have no idea. I have no idea. I wanted to take them into an immersive experience, but I was moving this down and I was like, oh, that's not working.

Starting point is 00:30:40 It didn't do any of it. Yeah, I had to do it on the computer. It was a whole thing. Anyway, we appreciate you guys joining us. We love you, and we will see you on the next one. Bye.

The Reel Rejects - DUNKIRK (2017) MOVIE REVIEW – CHRISTOPHER NOLAN'S MOST IMMERSIVE FILM?! - FIRST TIME WATCHING!

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