The Reel Rejects - EDITORIAL: Johnny Depp Vs Amber Heard Trial...Reaction & Thoughts

Episode Date: April 26, 2022

Greg shares his thoughts on the trial and the overall situation involving Johnny Depp, Amber Heard, and the current state of the anti-defamation suit involving the two actors... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Amber Hurd For getting all serious up in here Had to do my classic beating to death Johnny Depp impression Anywho, guys, I don't need to tell you all Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard trial The defamation lawsuit has been going on Where Johnny Depp is suing Amber Heard

For that op-ed piece of did Amber Heard defame him in that article? And it's been A fascinating one, needless to say A whole lot more has come out And the conversation is about way more than just that, understandably and rightfully so. But it's been pretty much my new religion is absorbing this entire trial. I believe I've heard every second up until the last witness testimony. No, it's still ongoing, but when I most recently turned it off, which was just very like 20 minutes ago,

the last time Johnny Depp was testifying. I haven't been doing videos about it. Truth be told, that I wasn't planning on even talking about it as much as I've been absorbing it and hearing all of it. I really wasn't planning on doing videos about it. I had a lot of friends who I discussed this case with in-depth because there's a jury there, but we're all playing jury ourselves right now. Anyone who's really following this trial, as much as I'm being asked like, why haven't you been talking about it? I have a lot of my own personal reasons as to why. Some of you might know that in the past, I've tried touching on it.

I just get like my chest would tighten up. I get those like feelings of like I'm on stage or something on my throat would tie it. And the subject of domestic violence is the subject I take incredibly serious. I really do. I take it very, very serious. To be frank, right now the feeling I'm having is normally when I come on camera, I want to be like all energetic and positive. But after listening to the last bits of him testifying,

I'm again left with the feeling that I keep doing to myself because I can't stop listening to this trial. is i feel like a little bit hollow a little bit down get that feeling like my heart just kind of hurts a little bit i don't quite know how to describe it i'm usually pretty eloquent of describing my feelings and i know this is a sensitive subject for a lot of people this subject in particular is an incredibly sensitive one and i completely understand like when it comes to this subject depending on one's own traumas and how far they've come and overcoming their traumas a lot can be applied here like a lot can be projected onto how they're receiving the information and the opinions that they actually form what's cool about getting a trial is you get a lot of facts

to work off of instead and if you're able to kind of separate yourself which i know is very easier said than done but if you're able to separate yourself and just listen to the information might be easier on forming an opinion i'm not here to say i'm right you're wrong i'm here to just share my thoughts i'm not going to do a full breakdown of the situation There's been other channels, channels who have been covering this, this situation in particular for years who are now really covering it extensively and are doing a wonderful job. So if you want like in-depth analysis breakdown of it, please go and check them out. I'm here to just kind of share my feelings on it right now, especially as someone who in the very beginning when Amber Hurd did have her photos go out of looking all bruised. I'm not going to lie to you guys.

I instantly believed Amber Hurd and I believed her for quite a long time without really diving into the subject. It's a big reason why Johnny Depp is fighting. You know, most cases with celebrities, I think is a good point to be made. Most cases, when it comes to shit like this, if the person actually did do the bad deed, they just kind of want to just settle out of court and just let it die down, Johnny Depp has been fighting tooth and nail and is now freaking so public. about it. All this stuff that's happening after so many years, I think there's an element of that where you got to, you got to at least question, does that lend credence? In my opinion, it does

lend credence to the argument. Maybe he's just fighting to restore his reputation so he could get the work back and get the money back. Maybe. I don't have the opinion that that is the case. I know there's a touchy subject. I did feel compelled to hop on camera and kind of share my feelings on this for a few reasons that we'll explore as I continue to talk. When I first heard about this, I did side with Amber Hurd. And around the time when James Gunn was fired from Disney, I went on Twitter and I said some shit about Disney. And part of that, I lumped in Johnny Depp.

And instantly, there were some followers who immediately were like, I'm disappointed in you, Greg. How do you not know about that? Like, I didn't know about anything. And this was years ago when this happened, like much less evidence available to the public years ago. And I just chalked it up to Johnny Depp wild super fans, people who just can't possibly see that the precious famous celebrity is a horrible human being. And this is coming from a guy who loved Johnny Debt.

Like, I loved the shit out of Johnny Debt. The longest time, I deemed him my number one favorite actor. I was obsessed with his filmography. When I started to actually read some of the things in my inbox where there was like screenshots of court documents and whatnot. Going through it, I started to question, you know, what. what is what is the truth here and then over the years channels like incredibly average and more have been bringing to light so much more evidence to show that there was a lot of lies actually happening here most likely i believe it's been a lot of lies i did start to find myself going i

really don't believe johnny dep beat the shit out of amber heard i just don't believe it i don't believe that happened. It's fascinating to see this trial unfold and it's being so massive right now. I remember when all these audios that have been out for a long time that are now being played in this trial are becoming headlines and, you know, the titles of videos for the major news outlets, the major media outlets. And for so long, people were saying, why don't the big outlets report on this? Why don't the big outlets share this? Why don't they bring this to light? One of the good things about this trial is that it is bringing it to light. It's been slowly that the court of public opinion has been swaying more to Johnny Depp's side. And then after the

UK trial, even though he lost that trial, he seemed to have won over a lot of people still. But then here, now that we all get a play jury along with the jury, it seems like the court of public opinion is much more predominantly in Johnny Depp's favor. That's not to say there aren't people who decide with Amber Hurd. I'm not sure there's a lot of people who are still like, I'm waiting to hear Amber Hurd get on the stand. I'm sure there's a lot of people like that. But unless Amber Hurd's team suddenly starts doing a good job, A,

because they've been doing just a shit job, unless they start doing a good job, and B, unless they pull out some, some like remarkable piece of evidence to support their case, I don't see them swaying the court of public opinion. I just don't see it happening. I'm happy for Johnny Depp in that regard. Like, of course, that this situation is not a pleasant one, and it's an unfortunate one,

and really a very depressing one, it's good that this trial is happening because a lot of people will say that Johnny Depp's career from here on now, definitely, it was already ruined, but now it's definitely ruined, and that he's not going to be able to really work again. I'm hoping this does lead to the firing of Amber Hurd again. In case something does happen to come out that completely flips my opinion on this time on the side of, Like, I think Amber Hurd should be getting fired from the DC universe or WB to say the least. Throughout this trial, one thing it's done is really shift the narrative. You know, in the beginning, it was painted like Amber Hurd was this, you know, fragile woman

who lived with this monster who just beat the crap out of her. And he's an alcoholic and a drug addict and he's the one who really was this monster, right? Now it's very apparent Amber Hurd was not the individual. will she tried to paint herself as? There's just far too much evidence to support it. Then a lot that can be character assassination, especially regarded towards Johnny Depp, of how they'll try to isolate text messages, exchanges,

like these little things and not allow for additional context. Like, what was leading to this conversation? Why did this happen? Why was this said? You know, it's just like, did you say, oh, you said it? Okay, let me cut him up. Moving on, right? While that happens to Johnny Depp a lot,

not everything. Like, there's a lot of things that obviously don't paint him, in a good light. Clearly, there's a lot that doesn't. There's a lot of things that have been very telling of Amber Hurd especially, though. Main thing, though, the main thing, because I want to talk on this subject a little bit more in just a second, like, while definitely emotional abuse was very much on display and verbal abuse from both of their sides, I'm going to talk about that a little bit more in a second. The main thing is, is like, all that shit about, like, did he hit her? Did he break her nose? You know, did it give her black eyes, the concussions, ripping

chunks of hair out. All of that, plain and simple, doesn't seem like it happened. It's just, just don't, I don't believe it. I don't believe Johnny Depp did that. It's like having emotional and verbal abuse in a relationship is one thing. When you get all physical like that, where you're really like life threatening to that degree, it's like, sure, trauma can form from emotional and verbal abuse. Undoubtedly, it can. It can last for years upon years upon years. The physical abuse, that's the main question at hand here. I don't think he did. I really don't believe he did. and I believe a lot of the things that first I just didn't and then over the years like I believed a lot of this beforehand this trial is only solidifying it even with as much new things come to light it just really goes to show my opinion at least is that she's lied to the court I do believe she stole that charity money she's lied about physical assault her story sometimes don't seem to be consistent they seem to contradict one another sometimes just the way like Amber hurd's team is they just seem desperate and they seem kind of scared of Johnny I don't know what's fact And there, maybe they are afraid, or they are star-struck in a way, or maybe they're like,

oh, my God, everyone's really against my client. I'm a little nervous about it. Bottom line is if they really had a good case on their hands, I don't feel like the lack of confidence would really show. Like, there's been some laughable shit that really happens, especially in the cross-examination parts. So when it comes back to the main case of it all, did Amber her defame giant defense article? Like, she has to prove that he was, like, domestically violent. The one piece of evidence that they seemed to really try to lean in on was that video were

you know, Johnny Depp was even unsure of what exactly happened that day, according to his testimony, where he's in the kitchen and he's being aggressive with items, you know, he's like that joke about, like, I abused cabinets. You know, in all fairness, he seemed like he's getting pretty rough. Like, if I happen to stumble into a situation like that with any man there or even a woman doing that, I'd be a little bit scared, like, are they going to break some stuff right now? I mean, are they going to get violent? Sure, like, I understand that. So that seemed to be the one thing they were trying to lean in on. And they, hey, they don't really lean into that. If I'm not mistaken, you know, if you put someone in that situation where they're, let's say, like, I'm in the room with my fiance, and then I start, like, slamming some shit, breaking some things, kicking some things, or whatever, if she's feeling scared or I'm exposing her to me destroying stuff, that can qualify as a form of abuse.

Absolutely. But then again, what we've got to think about is, like, context surrounding the things. I'm not even talking about why Johnny Depp's even doing that. With this whole video that played out, it didn't seem like he went into the room and started going after Amber. It seemed like he was isolated by himself, and then she interjected herself in there with a camera. And then when he did snatch a camera away and was really pissed off about being secretly recorded without his consent, without being told that, she picked up the camera and you could see her smiling about it, like a got-you moment. And there's just something about that additional context that just seems off about it. like she doesn't actually seem like she was scared during that situation he wasn't going after her she put herself in that room with him and it's not like they have a two-bedroom house or something like that you know like i'm pretty sure where fucking johnny deaf and ever heard her living is a pretty big place i'm not saying it's right what's happening it's kind of hard for me to feel like what he's doing was being abusive towards her in that moment if that makes sense i think this obviously was a very toxic relationship

And there's a lot of emotional and verbal abuse that's happening between them. The most common rhetoric that seems to be happening in all these audios that keep coming out is something that I think happens in a lot of toxic relationships when one partner has a big fear of abandonment and they feel like that they can't separate themselves from a fight or an argument because they're worried the other person will leave and abandon them. And this is the case where Amber Hurd has admitted to literally physically assaulting him, hitting him, physically harming the guy, and admitting that she instigates it and starts it and she has reasons as to why she does it. A lot of us already are very much aware of that. That it's like all the evidence seems to support that she instigates, she starts it, and she also traps in the middle of a fight. The mature thing would be to separate and go, let's take a little breather from each other. Let's take a little break. Come back with cooler heads.

That way we can actually try to. talk this out they're the person though in the middle of a really heated argument of in that fear that trauma's coming up in them they do something very abusive and toxic and trap them into that situation and think in mistaking that for like i'm fighting for love when that's really not the case so my point being is that obviously there's evidence of like johnny dev not just in those text message exchanges where some of it is just jokes and some of it is just straight up mean and crude towards amber heard there is some audio that is out there of him saying some mean things to Amber heard directly. The part of it though that I feel like it's especially touchy

though normally at least in the situations that I'm usually hearing about or that I've been privy to myself normally it's gender flipped normally it's the husband is definitely the instigator and the one to fear while the the woman is the one who has to who becomes like reactionary abusive back like when they start fighting back after being pushed to that certain point so while it's It's easy to look at that and go, they're both emotionally abusive. They're both verbally abusive. Like the fact is that, yeah, there are definite instances of such a case, but there is such a thing as reactionary abuse when you get to a point where you get pushed so much to a point where you have to start fighting back a little bit.

But fighting back does not mean he beat the shit out of her. And that's the part that really damaged Johnny Depp's career and just a straight up lie. There's plenty of things that point to the fact that Amber Heard faked those marks on her face. even the defense trying to use that whole thing with like the milani cosmetics and saying like you know she uses melani cosmetics but then milani came out and it was like you know when that situation happened our product wasn't even on the market then so there's no way that that was the case like so you can't use this in your trial i think what's happened in this trial with all facts presented all evidence supported testimony whatever it really seems like and this is what i believe the whole image that

amber heard was able to successfully paint about johnny dep for a long time the thing that really damaged his image, his reputation, his career of him being this controlling, violent menace is just not true. And so I get why he's fighting. Again, like I said, unless Amber Herr managed to pull some him out of her ass, I'm really hoping Johnny Depp wins this trial. Because we don't know what the jury will ultimately vote. You know, they might look at this and go, what's this trial actually about and really like ruminate on it. So we don't know what will ultimately lead into. We don't know who's on that jury. But the court of public opinion really seems to be in Johnny Depp's favor. With that being said, you know, because so much of this is like a fight for optics at the same time. I think

that Amber Hurd ought to be fired from Aquaman too. Students have had to do this time and time again lately. It seems like, replace Amber Hurd. Just get a different actress. Reshoot that shit. I don't know it will cost you some money, but do it because you're probably going to lose money by keeping her in there. So replace Amber Hurd, it's just not fair. Secondly, there is that narrative out there that, you know, a lot of people feel like because Giant Depp's put so much out on his personal life, things that don't paint him in a good light. But in spite of that, I still think he's innocent into things he's fighting for. I'm hoping that after all of the said and done,

whatever the outcome of the trial might be, within a few years' time, the Giant Depp can go back to doing what we all knew Giant Depp for, which was being a freaking awesome actor, you know? Like, I remember thinking around, I don't know exactly know when, but there was a point after like Pirates or Alice in Wonderland time when I was like, you know, Johnny Depp just seems like he's starting to lose it a little bit

in terms of like his acting abilities. probably would have like a certain hit here or there like a really good performance here or there he seemed like he was really losing a lot of that spark and passion and started becoming like a joke in and of himself i don't know how much of his ability on camera correlates with his relationship with amber heard or whatnot but i believe in a good comeback story and i i 100% believe he deserves a comeback and i think you know with the work johnny deaf has done in the past he's a good enough actor a damn fine actor to the point where i think he could get to the point where we can see past some of the personal life stuff and just see him as an actor again just look at the character he's playing and not think about Johnny enough the person who we saw on trial pouring his heart and soul fighting for what was right after the legacy that he he was building up a strong legacy uh to leave behind and then it got tainted and really stained by this situation where a lot of it just seems like a bunch of bullshit plain and simple i'm sorry for like what his families had to go through and i feel terrible for what he's had to go through you know i do

side with Johnny on this. Like I really do. That's just my thoughts. Not really not in this. I just had a stream of consciousness with you guys. Thanks for being here.