The Reel Rejects - EDWARD SCISSORHANDS (1990) IS A GOTHIC FABLE MASTERPIECE!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

Episode Date: August 2, 2025

TIM BURTON'S BELOVED '90s CLASSIC!! Edward Scissorhands Full Movie Reaction Watch Along:   / thereelrejects   Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Aparrel! https://www.rejectnati...onshop.com/ As we gear up for Tim Burton's return & Wednesday Season 2 on Netflix, Aaron & Johnald Give their Fresh-Eyed Edward Scissorhands Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis & Full Movie Spoiler Review!! Aaron Alexander & John Humphrey bring their hearts and scissors to the screen in this Reaction & Review of Tim Burton’s 1990 gothic fairytale classic Edward Scissorhands. Starring Johnny Depp (Pirates of the Caribbean, Sweeney Todd) in one of his most iconic roles, the film follows Edward, an unfinished artificial man with scissors for hands, as he’s discovered living alone in a dark mansion and brought into the pastel-colored suburbs by the kind-hearted Peg Boggs, played by Diane Wiest (Parenthood, The Birdcage). As Edward struggles to fit into the conformist community, he forms a tender connection with Peg’s daughter Kim, portrayed by Winona Ryder (Stranger Things, Heathers), setting the stage for a moving and tragic romance. The film also stars Alan Arkin (Little Miss Sunshine, Argo) as Peg’s husband Bill, Anthony Michael Hall (The Breakfast Club, Weird Science) as the antagonistic Jim, Kathy Baker (Picket Fences, The Age of Adaline) as nosy neighbor Joyce, and horror legend Vincent Price (House of Wax, The Fly) in a poignant final role as Edward’s inventor. With its unforgettable visual style, Danny Elfman's haunting score, and deeply emotional themes of loneliness, creativity, and acceptance, Edward Scissorhands is one of Burton's most beloved films. Key scenes like Edward trimming hedges and dog hair, the snowy dance moment with Kim, and the heartbreaking ending in the attic have become iconic in pop culture history. Follow Aaron On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealaaronalexander/?hl=en Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, we're gonna watch the movie now. Roll the bumper. Goodness gracious me. Thank you guys so much for joining us. This was quite a journey. And yeah, man, this was this was for me, essentially like the first time. And wow, what a what a ride that was. I'm like oddly reflective at the end of that. This was really something beautiful. As always, we will kick off our review portion with the questions that you guys have submitted over on the Patreon. Big thanks to our royal rejects. Typically throughout these reviews. Yeah, we will have you guys kind of stoke the fires of our chat guide us
Starting point is 00:00:47 You know through what you guys want to hear about the most So yeah, let's start off with simply faded. Thank you so much for joining in Simply says Edward scissorhands is one of my favorite films my siblings And I wore out the VHS because we watched it over and over What have you what are your thoughts of the fairy tale like storytelling? I thought it was lovely. It reminded me of another film I grew up with that John mentioned earlier, Princess Bride. And yeah, I always loved old woman or old man telling the story
Starting point is 00:01:18 of their youth to or just a fantasy story to a younger generation. And it played out really lovely. I think it added this nice quality to it that made it feel, you know, something like fantasy. And I appreciated the tragic nature of it. It was so tender and so sweet and so loving, but he was run out of town by the village people. Yeah, I can't put my my finger on it right now.
Starting point is 00:01:49 But, you know, it was seems like it was set in the 60s. There is a older quality to this. And I think the the 60s era added a nice visual to, you know, the storytelling of something that feels like it's harkens back to olden time fairy tales. But yeah, still maintain that feeling. Like even the 60s, I guess played a little bit into it, but I feel like this story in and of itself could be told from many generations to come.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And obviously, it came out in I think 1990, so it has been told from generations. And, you know, parents have passed it on to their kids and so on, and now it's been passed on to us. 1990, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, John, what did you think? Yeah, I loved the fairy tale sort of, yeah, gothic.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Not even, like it's's there is love in it. It's not like a love story per se solely anyway. But yeah, I really love the flavor of this and the way that it moved. And yeah, the sort of peripheral magic of it, but also the sort of wry depiction of life in the suburbs. And to the way it does kind of have this timeless quality because it does feel like you're in the 60s but it's also like kind of 80s
Starting point is 00:03:12 and you know because they got like the you know his dad's got like oh this crazy vcr and he's looking at cd players and stuff so like i think it is further in time than the 60s but you're also just sort of left to kind of pinpoint it. I almost feel like you can pinpoint it sort of to a degree wherever you like, because yeah, it feels like something older, almost like, you know, the little neighborhood we're in feels like something out of a Twilight Zone episode, just with more pastel coloring. And yeah, there's like a clockwork whimsy to how that works. And so I really like the way that this unfolded
Starting point is 00:03:51 because it did feel like something of a fairy book. And I like the way that it gradually got going. You know, like you have your opening titles and a few opening images and then you just start in on, what is his mom's name? I want to, is it Peg that's Diane least okay so yeah like you know her going door to door like I thought that was just gonna be a bit and that was gonna segue us into the family that we were gonna you know peer in upon but I
Starting point is 00:04:16 thought that she brought so much she was the glue of the movie in a lot of ways to me she brought so much heart and so much compassion to the character who starts off you know when you first see her again door to door selling you know network marketing products and stuff like that like there's a loaded you know response associated with that and then you know as you know the scenes progress you start to develop sympathy and endearment toward her because everybody is kind of brushing her off. And then, yeah, she goes up to the castle and, you know, follows curiosity despite her apprehension, obviously, and then, you know, is willing to accept this guy and, you know, willing to be curious
Starting point is 00:05:03 and to kind of observe him and not run away when she sees him immediately and there was just something about the way that the things began that was so lovely and that really like sold it nicely because you know the the level of freaked out versus curious and you know sort of. Again, compassionate was a really nice thing and the whole movie had this flavor of Like it's like a wistful whimsy. It's like there are parts of it, especially in the first half It's like, you know, you were commenting that you know early on it's not really apparent what the conflict would be because yeah He's just kind of you know acclimating to this neighborhood and you know having little interesting You know interludes with all the different neighbors and stuff like that. And it's fun to watch him learn how to exist in regular society. And then yeah, this jealous boyfriend
Starting point is 00:05:54 or this just rage-filled kind of domineering boyfriend then creates a very relatable conflict out of the coming of age elements and stuff like that. Like this is I would love I'm excited to watch this again after this viewing because there's so much lovely storytelling and obviously like the neighborhood people they're all sort of satirical to a degree. So like I like the way this balanced out. Yeah. The stuff that felt like a fairy tale. you know, this kindly old inventor who is working on his, you know, perfect boy.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It's a little bit Pinocchio and, you know, tragically passes away, giving him, you know, the gift, the final piece to complete him or at least to help him, you know, live a normal life like there's so many things in the way the story was told. It's like you have some really fun interactions between characters that are dialogue based. You have also a bunch of moments that are just kind of lyrical and vibey and just sort of observant of character. And so, yeah, I loved the fairy tale aspects, but also the kind of silent movie esque quality that it had. And yeah, like it's a little bit sad and it's a little bit sweet And I love those flavors and I could absolutely see why you would have worn this VHS out
Starting point is 00:07:12 Hell yeah. Thank you for for asking and for commenting Rennie John and our run you knew this question was coming What objects would each of you pick for hands? You knew this question was coming. What objects would each of you pick for hands? P.S. John, your quick wit, one-liners, and compassion has always brought me joy in these reactions. Thank you so much. And Aaron, your empathy, humor, and authenticity lights up every reaction you're in. Oh, it sucks.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I love you both. That is so sweet. Thank you so much, Renny. Goodness. What are your hands, man? Oh, man. So many options for hands. I don't know why my mind went to the hot dog fingers from everything everywhere. Hot dog hands. That was nice. Hot dog hands, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Little flappy hot dog hands, that'd be fun. But no, we're gonna go outside the box. We're gonna think different. Boxes for hands. Be so, you know, utilitarian. You could carry so many things. This is true. This is true.
Starting point is 00:08:10 If I could have, you know what I would want for hands? If there is a way where I can control them and move them as fingers, I would want like massage gun tips for hands. Let's go. Yeah. Oh, OK. You would be a very popular guy. He'd be a very popular guy. So many things, you know, I put like maybe like a sleeve over it. If I need like
Starting point is 00:08:29 to mix a drink, I could just like do that. I can give later. I can start a business, have like a massage business. I could, I don't know. It's just so versatile. Absolutely. I could, I could swim with just my fingers. Yeah. Yeah, dude. I'd be able to propel myself faster. Yeah. I like it. I'm going to go with massage gun finger hands. What about you? Guitar hands.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Ooh. Each one's a little guitar? Everyone's a little guitar. I guess it's ukulele hands. Ukulele hands. If I was being honest, it would probably just be like, I would have one hand be different colors of pens and one hand be different colors of pencils.
Starting point is 00:09:04 OK. Because then I would be able to you know draw and paint kind of anything you know I feel like it's hard to come up with a thing to have your hands slash fingers be that's also not going to hinder your life in some capacity and so you know I guess I would probably because I do love to carry a notebook around and write and scribble and draw and sketch and whatever So I feel like you know That's a happy place thing for me to do like sometimes
Starting point is 00:09:30 I'll go out will self-date take my notebook sit down just kind of let it flow and So if I just had them right on the fingers be beautiful. I'd be lovely do sketches and You know probably be way more efficient at sketching then then you know I Would was just one. Yeah. So. I want pizza hands. Pizza? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Everyone's a breadstick. I don't want my pizza hands to go moldy, though. I don't think that'd be fun. I was gonna say, anything that you would be tempted to eat and that has a shelf life would probably be bad. That would be messed up. Yeah, it would probably be bad. Can opener hands.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Okay. To help people. Um. There's some business, there's some business there you could have. If you could have Swiss army knife hands. Okay. To help people. There's some business there you could have. If you could have Swiss army knife hands. Oh? That would be pretty sick. I wouldn't be mad at that.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah, yeah. That's my second choice. Either massage gun hands or Swiss army hands. I want each of my fingers to be another hand. So I have extra hands and extreme dexterity. So do your little hands inside of your big hands also have little hands? It's a never ending chain of hands with hands. I got gloves for my glove action figure.
Starting point is 00:10:35 That's what I would do. That way you have like a version of extendo hands. You kind of have elasticity, but it's just hands folding out of hands. Yeah. I dig that. Yeah. I think that's our answer. What are your hands gonna be? Camera hands? Be cool? What are all the things that I like?
Starting point is 00:10:50 I want them on my hands. Thank you Renny and for the kind sweet compliments. We really appreciate that. Appreciate you dog. Robi Bobarp-Pierras. Hi guys. How's it going? It's good. It's pretty good. I'm feeling pretty jazzed. I'm feeling inspired. This is one of those movies you watch for me, anyway. And I'm like, I want to go out and make some. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Makes you want to go out and write something and photograph some and edit it together and yada yada. It's just pure imagination on display. Yeah, I definitely feel inspired. Oh, my god. First off, kudos to John-old for pronouncing my name correctly on Happy Gilmore to talk about some go for the pirate pronunciation, which I prefer. All right. So while you're going to be Robie Bobar Pirates from now on, uh, pirates. Um, but yes, I hope I did it the
Starting point is 00:11:42 right way this time, the first time. Anyway, I had two questions for today. One, which one of the jobs Edward tried his hand at? Do you think he should have pursued more? And can you think of other jobs he could have tried? And two, what is your favorite John Old Depp movie? Keep Up the Good Work and Chow from Sardinia. Thank you for tuning in and for the lovely sentiments, questions, et al. Let's see, he did dog's hair, he did people's hair, he did hedges, he did ice sculptures. He did a little bit of murder, you know. He did dabble in murder. He did dabble in murder.
Starting point is 00:12:25 He could be a very effective, well, he wouldn't be an effective hitman because you would always be able to tell who did it. It's like various specific scissor shape puncture wounds. Right, but that can look like a knife. That's true, if he does it the right way actually. Hey, no prints. That's right, no prints, no prints, not bad. He could be good there, he could carve hams, right. No Prince. No Prince. Not bad.
Starting point is 00:12:45 He could be good there. He could carve hams. I was going to say, he doesn't do it as a job. But he cuts the meat at dinner. And I'm like, yeah, you could get a job at a deli counter. For sure. Definitely cut pies. You can cut all kinds of foods.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Edward Scissorhands Pizza Parlor? I could see that. Dude, get him. I would love that. Get him cutting slices and stuff, slicing and dicingicing I mean if he worked it like a chop stop he'd be unstoppable dude yeah get him cutting them salads up like what could you do with scissors that we don't see it all in this movie because because yeah it's like some some incidental stuff that he does you know he could easily turn into
Starting point is 00:13:22 a crew too I was actually sad watching this that his career did not take. I wanted to watch a movie where things just kept going well and he just starts a business and it's great. And then people get their dogs groomed and their hair done and their topiaries trimmed and he's just out here. I would have loved that. Everyone just helps him out with the stuff that his hands aren't good at. And then there we go.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Like we didn't see him do. We didn't see him cut any boxes. We didn't see him cut any boxes. You know, people didn't see him do? We didn't see him cut any boxes. We didn't see him cut any boxes. You know people move kind of. He could be, he could help the recycling company after people move because people don't break their boxes down and you gotta break those boxes down.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Dude, that's how you maximize your space. That's right, that's right. Or I mean, you know, like barbershop, you know, like giving people like, you know, shades. We did do barbershop. But like, you know, beardbershop you like giving people like, you know shades and he did do barbershop But like, you know beard bar. Okay. Yeah, I didn't see anybody Did cut some face he wasn't on that sweet time. That's true. Yeah He wasn't Murder all I know is a sweet cod. Iey Todd murders people and he does haircuts.
Starting point is 00:14:25 That's all I know about that movie. He does beard cuts. He does beard cuts? He does beards and stuff. I don't think he cuts anyone's head hair. No? No, I don't think so. Spoilers!
Starting point is 00:14:34 Oh, sure. Spoilers for Sweeney Todd. One day maybe we'll watch Sweeney Todd. I'm sorry. I wanna watch it so bad. Let us know if you want us to watch Sweeney Todd. Okay. Hand model. Sure. He could be a hand model. He has very specific hand model There's a market out there for that. This is an interesting. I'm sure you know because he has these hands and They you know complicate but also accentuate aspects of his life
Starting point is 00:15:00 I feel like there's an interesting read you can have on just living with some kind of of his life. I feel like there's an interesting read you can have on just living with some kind of abnormality, you know, because it's, you know, obviously there's the sort of like, ah, at the end, they're like, you freak, drive him out of town. But, you know, like there were some really fun and interesting aspects of just watching him again, try to make it by in this world and people not kind of coming in to help. And it's like, yeah, I thought that scene at the talk show was really interesting because they are having the conversation of like, would you want, you know, to say, I got a doctor you should get in touch with for your hands. And I love that that just keeps coming up and nothing ever comes of it because that's
Starting point is 00:15:36 a thing that happens in life. But yeah, they keep acknowledging the sort of, you know, like, if you change and get real prosthetic hands or whatever, like, you know, you won't be special anymore. You won't be like, yeah, this adds a lot of difficulty in some respects, but it also enables you to do these extraordinary things. And there's something very interesting about that. Yeah, maybe you can learn some interchangeable hands.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Dude, there you go. Yeah, you know what, one more thing. I feel like if he were to able to master his hand abilities He can come up with his own version of acupuncture dude Oh my god, Edward puncture Edward puncture edge edge ed you puncture Edward puncture Something something in there. I like it and your favorite John old dep movie So many oh my god freak Donald Depp movie?
Starting point is 00:16:26 There's so many, oh my god, freak, dude. Freak dude? Yeah, that's one. It's a good-ass movie, freak dude. I don't know, I've seen a number of them here, I've seen a number of them in my personal life. What about you, do you have one? Yes. Let me look at his discography while you elaborate on this.
Starting point is 00:16:43 How many albums does he put out? It's filmography! He's out here playing music with people. I know my answer to this because my favorite movie of all time is a Johnny Depp movie and that would be Ed Wood, which is a Tim Burton joint from 1994, I want to say. I want to watch Ed Wood. Ed Wood is terrific. I love that movie very much and I love his portrayal of the guy such that it is. And I mean this was really lovely certainly like I can see why it's fun to come back to a movie that is so beloved because you know it's like I don't
Starting point is 00:17:20 have obviously the same association that people who have been watching this all of their life have and so this was of their life have. And so this was like a really lovely performance and really well observed. And he's so engrossing to watch and he plays the innocence so well and he plays the childlike quality of this guy so well. But yeah, I mean, you know, Ed Wood certainly would be one for me. I'm going to I'm going to discard my scissor hands for a moment so I can also see if there's any other answer
Starting point is 00:17:47 to this question. Okay, I think I might know what it is. It's your favorite movie, 2010's Alice in Wonderland, of course. He's really good in that, I will say that. He is very, very good in that movie. I did like watching him as the Mad Hatter, I will say that.
Starting point is 00:18:02 You know what, I'm tossed, because I'm looking at his discography, and a couple of them I've actually seen on this channel. I remember, you know what's funny? I remember really liking Corpse Bride as a kid, but I've not seen it in a very, very long time, so I don't think that would count for me. I like Corpse Bride.
Starting point is 00:18:19 I like, yeah, man. I'm gonna go between, I'm gonna go between Rango. Rango's great. And Tusk. On Stranger. Not Stranger. Transcendence.
Starting point is 00:18:34 The Ninth Gate. No. Libertine. At World's End, that's the third one, right? Yes. Your favorite one. What's, I'm trying to find it,, it's okay. It's not public enemies It's
Starting point is 00:18:53 That's oh we know it's a dead man's chest, okay, my favorite I had a fun one. I want to see once upon a time in Mexico We were obsessed with secret window back in the day. I like him from hell, even though nobody likes that movie. Oh, god. Oh, A Runner Up for Me would be Sleepy Hollow. Also a movie I've never seen. Underrated Tim Burton. And that's one of my favorite Burton's as well.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And I really like him in that movie. So I've got to see Fear and Loathing for sure. Donnie Brosco I've got to see. Same. There's another big one of his. Cry Baby I've got to see Fear and Loathing for sure. Donnie Brosco I've got to see. There's another big one of his. Cry Baby I've never seen. But yeah that would probably be it. Shouts out to him and Nightmare on Elm Street as well. But yeah. Favorite Johnny Depp probably Ed Wood followed by Sleepy Hollow. Or I mean this was great. I loved him in this. Curse of the, um, Demons Chest, Rango. That's what it is for me. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Thank you so much. Robie Pirates. Alrighty.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Makel Medina Cthuria. It's a cool, you guys got cool names here at the Royal Rejects. Yeah, you do. Michael Medina Cthuria. big hugs to the both of you big hugs to you as well We're all hugging it hugging it out this movie is super artistic, but not my favorite story However, I love the performances. I think my favorite was Diane Weist as the mother. Any standout performances for you? Ooh, I would say Diane Weist is really good. I think she's just a good woman. She's a good, lovely woman from start to finish.
Starting point is 00:20:37 She was the most surprising. Obviously you're like, oh, Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder, but yeah, she was absolutely the person who left off screen and I was not expecting and who charmed and endeared me the whole way through. Yeah, Winona was good. But this was my favorite of her performances. But Diane Weiss, I've not seen a ton of her stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:57 It's not to my knowledge. But she's definitely my favorite of the characters in the movie. Yeah. And I mean, it was really cool to see Vincent Price, you know, horror icon and in such a sweet role, you know, in such a fatherly kind of warm presence, even though the setting suggests that he should be, you know, this,
Starting point is 00:21:17 you know, scary, you know, mad scientist man. And, you know, I thought Kathy Baker definitely leapt off the screen to Alan Orkin certainly really made me laugh with his uniquely detached quality that he had words like he never hears anything that isn't within the realm of his world view. Gosh, man, the writer of this movie. Sorry, I was curious. Caroline Thompson has written tons of stuff, including your guys watching the Adams family. So we're with Tim Burton a lot. Hell, yeah. But yeah, those are some performances that jumped off the screen. But I would say Diane Weiss, number one for sure.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Let's see. Thank you so much, Michael, for chiming in. Tara Tara. Oh, hi, John and in. Tara! Tara! Hi John and Aaron. This might be my favorite Tim Burton Johnny Depp movie. Johnny was well known at this point for playing a cop on the show 21 Jump Street. I have not seen any of those old episodes, but his performance in this movie really made me realize how gifted he is from his facial expressions to his innocence and naivete. Good word. What do you think of his performance and his ability to totally become a different character, i.e. Jack Sparrow or the Mad Hatter? And second, I second what Rennie said. I really enjoy. Oh, so that's the question. And then she goes on to say, I second what Rennie said. I really enjoy the reactions you do together with what I'm going to refer to as those notebook moments when you put your hands over your heart and say, oh, you
Starting point is 00:22:48 have such a compassionate heart. And that is why I will continue to ask that you both react to heartstopper. Okay. Okay. Okay. Add heartstopper to the list. I would love to hear your thoughts on that show. As always, can I guarantee the requests? But duly noted and I would certainly be thrilled I've heard about heart style. I know like a couple of basic things didn't the guy Who's playing Billy? Wiccan come from heart stopper. Oh, how to stop is a modern show. I don't know anything I don't know nothing about heart stopper. I'm sorry, but I'm down to watch that fuck the less. I know the better
Starting point is 00:23:22 about Heartstopper, I'm sorry. But I'm down to watch it, I feel like the less I know, the better. Yeah. Sam and Paula. The less I know, the better. Yes, Joe Locke, he is on the Heartstopper. Okay, I'll be with it. All right, so yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Yeah, yeah, what do you think of the performance here and his ability to totally become the different characters? Oh, he's phenomenal, he's great. He really understands the sensibilities that Tim Burton is asking for. Whatever aesthetics Tim Burton is trying to bring out, he matches it and speaks that language and rides that wavelength very well.
Starting point is 00:23:58 But it also speaks to his versatility as an actor outside of working with Tim Burton because he's able to be something that is super eccentric, yet very subdued, very subtle at the same time. His performance is very subtle, yet his appearance is very abstract. And you really feel this lovable, shy, naive guy who has the potential to be extremely dangerous, but that is not his MO.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And I feel like because of his innocence, because of his ability to be something that is harmful, yet makes art, makes beauty out of something that a lot of people consider to be horrible, I think that speaks to not only the character, but Johnny Depp's performance. I feel like he is very believable in this character. He feels like a Tim Burton drawing brought to life.
Starting point is 00:24:53 And the fact that he was able to play that, I imagine walking around for X amount of days with scissors on your hands is not a very easy task, but his ability to do that came across as very natural. And I really believed him as his character. He's, Johnny Depp is a chameleon in that way. And I forgot for a time, or it wasn't in the front of my mind
Starting point is 00:25:16 that this was Johnny Depp, oh, this is Edward. And I feel like that really speaks to his ability as performers. So yeah, I thought he was fantastic. Yeah, I would agree wholeheartedly. It's been interesting, and everybody has their different opinions about Johnny Depp these days.
Starting point is 00:25:30 And it's been a bummer to kind of watch him turn into a melted pumpkin or something. This is always how it articulates in my brain. I don't know. His evolution over time, he was once my very favorite actor. And I certainly still love so many of his performances and even, you know, the recent like crimes of Grindelwald movie he was in. I was, I remember being pleasantly surprised at just how much he showed up to that. So, you know, he's still very capable. And yeah, like the the magic of so many of these older performances,
Starting point is 00:26:07 especially is the way in which he is so, you know, immersed without it feeling like he's showing off or like, oh, look at the method. It just feels like, yeah, he I remember Greg and I used to always nerd out about like, oh, who did he base these characters on? Used to be able to kind of like, you know, track down interviews or information about how, you know, oh, this person was like, you know, famously Jack Sparrow's inspired partially by Keith Richards or like he spent a ton of time with Hunter Thompson to develop the character that's essentially Hunter Thompson in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas or in this movie, Edward Scissorhands, I was sitting here thinking like, I get this distinct impression, I don't know if this is a specific child,
Starting point is 00:26:49 but it seems like he really modeled the character after the mannerisms of a very shy child who has a lot in mind, but isn't really poised to say very much and is kind of wide-eyed and just taking the world in. And I really thought that that was a lovely choice because again, he's so engrossing, he draws your eye and you're, you know, endeared to his presence and you can kind of project onto him in a way. And you know, his, I don't know. Yeah. Like he's also a Rorschach test for all the other characters around him and stuff. So yeah I think I lost I just need to reorient myself in the actual question.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Yeah I mean I think his performance is really terrific and I think his his chops especially you know during his you know rise and in his like peak years, really something special. And yeah, he's able to take so many characters and so many characters in which he's not under heavy makeup and really make you feel like you're just watching this other guy, whether it be Edwards or Hans or Edward or a bud crane or whoever. And yeah, I think their combination, especially in this era, is one of those iconic runs of cinema,
Starting point is 00:28:08 for sure. And yeah, he's able to take these expressionistic and whimsical qualities and live in them and take them seriously enough, really live in, as they say, live in the reality of what this character is experiencing. And yeah, I really love the poise with which so many of these earlier performances and, you know, mid-era performances feel because, yeah, they're just so bespoke and so lovely. They are.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Yeah. Thank you so much, Tara, and for the lovely words as well. And yeah, I mean, I would love to hear just this seems like a fun movie to discuss with people and to see what, you know, people get out of the performances themselves or, you know, the different qualities of the character because it is such a strange movie. And I'm like, how do they even sell this? And yet it is so beloved. And yeah, like looking back on this, I was like, man, to be able to see this at the time and kind of to be able to experience the rise, you know, of Tim Burton, Johnny Depp, et cetera, rather than having to do all that in hindsight on home video.
Starting point is 00:29:17 But yeah, yeah, Johnny Depp in his heyday, real something special. Appreciate you very much, Tara, for chiming in and for the kind words as well. Moving along. Clean clap. There we go. Just a Girl, 329, one of my favorite No Doubt tunes, which I get it. It's a single.
Starting point is 00:29:36 It's not that inspired of a choice, but I like that song. Hi, John and Aaron. So happy you're watching one of my favorite films. Us too. Absolutely. New favorite for me,'re watching one of my favorite films. Us too. Absolutely. New favorite, for me at least. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:29:48 My question is, what do you think Edward represents? And why do you think the town's people ultimately reject him? Also, would you let Edward cut your dog's hair or your hair? If so, what would you want it to look like? Love you both. Love you as well. Just a.
Starting point is 00:30:04 All right. What do you think he represents? I think he represents, how do I answer this question? I think he represents people that are shy, I think he represents people that are outsiders, I think he represents, possibly to a degree, people that are on the spectrum. I think that he represents, yeah, being able to, someone who's able to find love in spite of the fact that they're different and be, yeah, learn that they have desires that are worth pursuing people that are selfless.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I think that, and people don't necessarily vibe with that because it seems like everybody outside of his family kind of want to take advantage of him in one degree or another. And I think that's something that is very admirable to be different and not have qualms about the fact that you're different. I feel like he was so innocent that I think he knew he was
Starting point is 00:31:09 different but I don't think that he felt necessarily ostracized because he was different he just was. So I think that yeah I would say that's what that represented to me. I think it it's okay to be a little kooky. It's okay to want to love the people in your life and do anything for them, especially if their love is reciprocal because you can really feel that. That's what I would say. I'd be curious to hear just varying takes
Starting point is 00:31:42 and analysis on this, but yeah, I think he definitely represents otherness in general, which can encompass, yeah, either somebody with some kind of physical abnormality, or yes, maybe somebody on the spectrum. Just anybody who has trouble with the normal protocols and goings on of society. And I think that, you know, there is, I mean, again, he's sort of a Rorschach test for the characters around him
Starting point is 00:32:12 because he is a blank slate in various ways. He is very innocent in a lot of ways. Yeah, I mean, in a lot of ways, I think he is sort of a Rorschach test for everyone in the neighborhood because it's like, you know, initially Pegg finds him and brings him home and it's just a very sort of compassionate act. She just like sees somebody in need wants to help them. Clearly, they've been abandoned or whatever, and she just has that natural inclination to step in and then everybody else gathers around and they all of a sudden start to inflate their own ideas of who he is and what he is And then everybody sees him and sees that he is different and at first they're like, ooh how novel?
Starting point is 00:32:50 Let's hoist this up. Let's take advantage of it Let's each get our own piece of you and then the second something happens, you know Inevitably happens that is not within everyone's you know know, decided. I don't know. Track for this person or what everyone has deemed, you know, sort of appropriate or within the bounds of what this person is supposed to be capable of or doing. You know, then they start to turn on him and then they start to make up stories about him. And because he is different, it flies off the handle. It's very quickly.
Starting point is 00:33:23 It's sort of like, oh, we should have seen this coming. He's got knives for hands. He's he's a monster. You know, he's he's there. Everything he does after a while starts to become something that you could twist into an act of malice. And I feel like that does happen to just a lot of different kinds of people who are othered in any way, which is, yeah, like, oh, your otherness makes
Starting point is 00:33:45 you unique and interesting. And, you know, you wouldn't want to lose that because that's what's fascinating about you. But then the second something starts to turn or, yeah, breaks outside of people's purview, then all of a sudden your otherness is a scary thing. And it's a thing we need to stop and we need to think of the children, you know? And certainly her boyfriend, the Anthony Michael Hall character, is exploiting that almost at every turn. And yeah, I mean, again, I think there are lots of things that you could extrapolate from this. But I think, yeah, there's that sort
Starting point is 00:34:17 of isolation of communication. And then, yeah, the way people project onto and exploit people who are different and who are outside of the norm and then, you know, turn on them when their plans don't go accordingly or whatever, but I would definitely be curious to hear more just takes on that. Would you let Edward cut your dog's hair or your hair? I don't have a dog, but, and also I,
Starting point is 00:34:42 I'm kind of growing it out, so I'm not in the market for a haircut, but back when I had a high top, most definitely a little cut my hair. You see this man? He's incredible. Hell, yeah. What about you? I would let him touch my hair. I was just, yeah, I'd be like, I don't know what's going to happen. I would like you to keep some length on it.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I don't feel comfortable going past a certain level of shortness, but knock yourself out. Let's see what you come up with. Yeah, you can raise that creativity. Yeah. Our family dog has a you know I don't have my own dog just my dog but we have a family dog and you know very short hair. I don't think it would work out but it would be fun. I don't know maybe maybe he can carve in some cool designs on her or something like that. But yeah thank you so so much, Just a Girl. All right, Kev B, thank you for chiming in. What do you think are the deepest fears or unspoken rules within that kind of community
Starting point is 00:35:31 that Edward could really never overcome? And what does this movie make you think about our job as a society when someone different comes along, especially if they're also really special? That's an excellent question. I mean, you know, I feel like it's in this movie as it's represented, it's it's kind of you're expected to fall into the clockwork of the
Starting point is 00:35:53 neighborhood sort of. And it seems like, yeah, the wives are all on one track and the husbands are all on another track. And clearly Alan Arkin is trying to mold him into like a working man because that's what you do So I feel like yeah, it's anything that upsets the cookie cutter white picket fence life It seems like are the things he could never really overcome because he doesn't know the poll he doesn't know how to play the politics of all these different things and to play the sort of Unspoken entanglements of all these people. He's like, you know, clearly the one wife is like itching for an affair and stuff like that. And he's so innocent. So I think it is that sort of like, you know, that that suburban hive mind is just a
Starting point is 00:36:38 thing that, yeah, somebody like him would have very much of a hard time overcoming, obviously, as it plays out here, isn't really able to overcome. Yeah, I think that the big, the thing I noticed is that there is a sense of, of cleanness and uniformity to everybody's houses, internally and externally, you know, they all relatively had a similar aesthetic,
Starting point is 00:37:03 similar style, a lot of colors. And then here Edward comes, has disheveled hair, has all these things and like leather fit and has these disheveled hands and they're all different types of scissors. And I feel like he represents somebody that is different, but whether it be by choice or by circumstance, he is different. He is an artist, first and foremost. He's a shy artist and he just wants to love. He wants to love, I feel like he wants to be loved. He just wants to be, I think. Exactly, he just wants to love, I feel like he wants to be loved. He just wants to be, I think.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Exactly, he just wants to be. And I felt like in a society where everybody's in everybody's business, nobody has the courage to just be. Everyone wants to conform. And I feel like because one person took the leap and then the conformity became abnormal which was what he was doing with haircuts and with people's dogs and like weirdness became the new cool until they eventually turned on him because they would just, as a society typically people kind of reject things they don't understand
Starting point is 00:38:24 or afraid of things they don't understand. So yeah, I would say that. Edward could never really never ever come. I feel like he can, the thing maybe he couldn't overcome is the fact that people in that society, at least in that area would always, in Burbank would always be afraid of him because they again don't really understand him. They they they fetishize him or they view him as something. Yeah, they
Starting point is 00:38:55 view him as something to to observe and they want to a touch of that thing that is different. Maybe part of them admires the fact that he's different and another part of them afraid. Another part of them is afraid of that thing. And what does this movie make you think about our job as a society when someone different comes along, especially if they're really special?
Starting point is 00:39:18 I think what the mom did, really embrace them because you never really know how somebody who appears different or you know, feels different, expresses themselves differently is affected by the fact that society maybe doesn't allow them to move in a way that feels organic to them. I feel like being able to you know, meet them where they are and show that they are still human, show that they are still cared for, is, you know, the best thing we can do.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And I feel like it applies to more than just somebody who has, you know, a physical presentation that is different, but people who, you know, have different sexual orientations or who have different lifestyles than the conservative American would think is appropriate or should be universal. I think that ultimately it just teaches us that we should really accept people for who they are, where they are, who they are where they are how they are yeah, I think it it our job as a society I would argue is to meet them halfway. You know and to meet them adverse at least where they are and see where they want to get to and then kind of work and adjust for that because yeah, there's so much as you said fetishizing of Edward and
Starting point is 00:40:44 Obviously they find use for him and you know the dad is always talking about you know you just got to get with the program and go get a job and yada yada and you know again in the movie it's clear that like aspects of you know his state are a big asset or a major source of you know joy and talent and there are other ways in which he's very limited. And so yeah, the mom seems like the only person who is willing to meet him halfway and to extend the benefit of the doubt
Starting point is 00:41:13 and to be patient when things again break beyond the traditionally accepted purview or whatever. Because this isn't a person who is in the standard normal mode of society They're not set up that way and our society is not really set up in a great way to accommodate anybody different anyway And so yeah, I think our job ideally would be to meet anybody different special halfway as long as it's not actively you know, you meet anybody different, special, halfway, as long as it's not actively destructive somehow,
Starting point is 00:41:51 or at least not by nature destructive. Uh, yeah, you know, you meet them halfway and see how, you know, see what aspects, you know, work in line with everything else and what aspects need a little more consideration and then find a way to extend that consideration. Um, which is hard. You got to care to do. We all gotta kinda get together and, you know, and commit to that.
Starting point is 00:42:09 So that's what I would say. Next one up, Jay Rushden. Okay, ever been to a barber who cut way too much off the top or cut you there? Yes. I don't know how to'll cut me there. Whatever the implications of that. But I have uh before I had my locks, I used to rock a high top for a number of years and I remember
Starting point is 00:42:33 around the time I was first growing my high top, I went to a barber that was not my barber and typically, I don't know how it works in other communities but as a black man, you typically do not stray away from your barber because bad things can happen. If you've seen the show Atlanta, you know this to be true. And I experienced this firsthand because I one time went to a barber when I was first starting to grow up my high top. And she cut too much off the top and had a bald spot in the middle of my high top because she was trying to get the angle right. And I just had a big old bald spot in the middle of my high top because she was trying to get the angle right and I just had a big old bald spot in the middle of my head.
Starting point is 00:43:08 It was a tight top. That's a tight top. And luckily my head recovered because the high top wasn't too tall at that point. But yeah, that was the last time I went to that girl. So that is my answer for that. I don't have as entertaining of a story as you do. I've certainly asked for length of certain degrees at different phases in my hair having career and I've definitely had people go a few inches beyond what I asked for. Oh no. Which is
Starting point is 00:43:34 never fun and I I've been nicked, I've been nicked in the chair mostly when I was younger as a kid you know I would get nicked and that would be like oh god I don't know if I want to go back. Because, yeah, you get like a little clipper across the ear or something like that. Nope. You know, but leave all of your worst hair, you know, experiences in the comments down below. Appreciate you, Jay. I hope your hair is doing well.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Penultimate question of the day, Emily Huxtable. Thank you so much for being here. I am so excited you're watching this movie. It is one of my favorites. I feel like it is much more deep and meaningful than people might think. I would agree. I have two questions for you two.
Starting point is 00:44:11 As I have said, I feel there is a lot of meaning in the movie. I also think that there is a metaphorical representation of our society. What do you think that each or some of the characters represent in our society? I know what I think, but I would love to know your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And second, when I watched this as a child, I was very sad that Edward ended up alone in our society. I know what I think, but I would love to know your thoughts. And second, when I watched this as a child, I was very sad that Edward ended up alone in the end. Now that I am older, I have come to understand the meaning of the ending. What did you think of the ending, and would you change it at all? P.S. you two are my favorite duo on the Real Rejects channel. That means a lot, thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Oh boy, okay, so we got two questions here. Sir, what do you think that each the characters represent in society? That's an interesting question. So yeah, it's a funny thing part about our job is like you watch the movie and then we have to fully and analyze it moments after we're done with it. So kind of we're playing the movie in my head here a little bit.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah, I think that it speaks to gossip culture. I think it speaks to some parts of, you know, conventional gender roles because, you know, the whim were all at home and they had the whole joke about all the husbands that were coming back at the same time and leaving at the same time and you know he didn't Edward didn't conventionally fit into what a guy was supposed to be at that point in time so I feel like yeah it sort of speaks to traditionalism and somebody who is the abstract person in a traditionalist society. Again, I think the mom stood for radical acceptance, radical love. And I think the boyfriend stood for small pee-pees.
Starting point is 00:45:57 And weird nicknames. Yeah. And the women stood for fads and gossip because they true, I don't know, they couldn't accept themselves, so they had to like, you know, project their stuff onto other people. Yeah, that's my answer for that. Yeah, I mean, you know, I would agree with those. I would say that, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:23 Edward, yeah, represents sort of the other of society, or at least the very sort of naive and innocent of society, perhaps. You could say, yeah, that Peg is, you know, the ideal, you know, her life isn't completely ideal, but her, you know, demeanor, her approach, her compassion is, you know, the sort of the good Samaritan kind know the sort of the good Samaritan kind of of society the good-hearted person who just wants to help who just wants to see the good in people You know the dad Represents the sort of again. Yeah detached company man
Starting point is 00:46:57 He's just all about kind of coming home at the end of day having a beer watching TV You know he's always kind of he's trying to run the family to a degree, but he's also kind of detached from what's really going on with everybody. You know, and then Winona Ryder as the daughter is, you know, I think a lot of probably, you know, girls growing up and coming of age are sort of caught in the middle of all these things. And she's like, clearly some kind of trophy for her boyfriend because throughout it seems like she is not always really on his wavelength.
Starting point is 00:47:29 They don't really seem quite right together, but also they make sense visually speaking. I was like, well, these two should be together because they're both attractive and they're both the picturesque young couple of two of the prominent families. And it seems like almost requisite that they should be together. And is, you know, the high school
Starting point is 00:47:48 bully jock guy who is always a little aggressive in every situation. He's manipulative of many situations to fit whatever his needs are. You know, the woman who's constantly coming on to Edward and who is, you know, trying to seduce him until he rebukes her or until one thing falls and who is, you know, trying to seduce him until he rebukes her or until one thing falls out of her, you know, plan. And then she completely turns on him and, and, you know, becomes this sort of snake character and who's always trying to paint herself as someone who's being wronged by things or who, you know, is always just trying to be the center of attention. She's like this, not quite a socialite, but you know, like kind of a Queen Bee type character
Starting point is 00:48:28 for this neighborhood. I mean, there's so many things. And even the way the cops handle this stuff, the way the cop at the end, like just kind of fires his gun in the air and then tells everyone to go home. And then, you know, and there are other characters too. There's like the especially religious lady who even her inclusion in the movie is not hugely substantial and it's not of major consequence necessarily and that almost fits the kind of proportionality of just how that arises in real life much of the
Starting point is 00:48:57 time. Like this is this is a movie I would kill to be on or you know I wish this review could be just some kind of podcast because these are really interesting questions Yeah, there's I think a lot to draw and interpolate out of this movie because it is You know again not just a linear plot movie so much as it is kind of a coming-of-age and a mood piece and and you know It is an observant and thoughtful Movie that isn't just all in the dialogue and stuff like that and there are you know I think sort of kaleidoscopic ways you can take it In the second half of your question. Yeah about the ending. Yeah, how do you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:49:32 Um, I I thought it was sad but I think it also played that fairytale nature of yellow He's still there to this day and he's affected society. And this is what we Yeah, this is how people felt at the time but I still have a softness for him in my heart and I am forever changed for having experienced him so yeah I thought it was a sad ending I wish you know this took place in a time where he could have been accepted by society but also understand why they didn't go that direction and yeah I don't know if it's ever at all possible or if Johnny Depp or Tim Burton ever have any interest, but I wouldn't be mad at a sequel to this movie.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Why not? Let's give Edward a happy ending, right? Let's see if he can make that happen one day. I'm watching him then. I think it's definitely bittersweet. And I can absolutely see, I've heard a couple people say like, oh, this movie leaves me a little cold, or yeah, the ending is more kind of sad. And I definitely see how as a
Starting point is 00:50:30 child you would feel that way, because you so want them to get together. And you know, their love arises in this way that isn't like the main action of the, it's not a movie about boy meets girl. It's not a romantic comedy or anything like that or a romance first and foremost and the romance becomes this element that grows it's not even always like happening directly on screen and so yeah it's this interesting just sort of instinctual thing that happens between them and as sad as it is yeah for them to be separated at the end there is that kind of beauty in the fact that because of that and because of the snow it's like they know that at least each other are safe and able to you know continue
Starting point is 00:51:13 living in their own element to some degree and yeah him being there at the end it's like he's alone but you can also have solitude you know and peace and and things when you're alone. And so I took it. Yeah, certainly in watching it from this perspective. Yeah, I definitely took it as sort of like a he is back in his element and he's had a few experiences, certainly, to bring back with him. But he's yeah, he's, you know, at peace in a place where he is, you know, free to be.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And I think that is that is beautiful. And I think that is beautiful. And I think that earns, again, the bittersweetness of the ending. And yeah, just thank you for the love. I really appreciate the kind thoughts and your thoughtful questions, all of you, and especially you as well, Emily. And finally, Alan Smithy. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Thank you so much. We have touched on this. But just to reiterate, so jealous of your first time Edward Scissorhands Watchers. Aside from this movie, what is your favorite Tim Burton, Johnny Depp collaboration? I'm a huge fan of Sleepy Hollow. Thanks for the reaction. I love Sleepy Hollow as well.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Edward is certainly, as I said, my favorite movie, and I love their collaboration. That I love him in Sleepy Hollow, and this is certainly, taking that cake as well, I would say. I really like the Mad Hatter performance in that movie. I like Sweeney Todd, but those, certainly Ed Wood and Ichabod would be at the top, and then probably this as well.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Yeah, I would say, because I haven't seen a ton of them, at least not since my childhood, I don't really remember them that well. And yeah, I would say this feels like a first time reaction for Edward Sister Hands, because I didn't remember anything at all, even though I saw bits and pieces on the ABC Family, and after having seen it, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:52:58 did I see bits and pieces on the ABC Family? I don't know, but anyway, to answer your question, I would say it's Alice in Wonderland 2010, because I like that movie probably more than most people. And that is my answer. Hell yeah, man. Yeah, brother. All right, gang, this was, yeah, this was super lovely.
Starting point is 00:53:16 This was, again, a really great window into what made and has made Tim Burton, again, one of our premier, you know, interesting fairy tale Gothic directors. Like the vision on this is so unique, the design, the production values, the costumes, the colors, the cinematography, the composition of the shots, both in terms of the framing and also how things are laid out in the frame, the performances, the writing. It's also lovely. And I can't quite say enough about this movie.
Starting point is 00:53:44 So this was a real joy for me. And I really just relish that we got to share it together. Me too. Any final thoughts before we hit it? And the music, that score. That score, Andrew was right. That was a terrific, terrific score. No, this is a lovely film. I'm happy I watched it with you. Happy I watched it with you guys. And yeah, stay accepting, stay kind. Yeah. Golly. As before he's like, stay kind. Yeah, golly. As before he's like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:54:07 as Beetlejuice before, this isn't like the most Tim Burton-y movie possible even, but it's very Tim Burton-y. Anyway, it's fascinating. Would love to discuss this more. Leave us your thoughts down below. Thank you so much for joining us if you joined us and we'll catch you on the next one.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Cheers, or hold on. Cheers to peace sign scissors. Cheers. Be well. David Gandy. David Gandy. My man. There's anyone here who is Edward Scissorhands?
Starting point is 00:54:40 You know? It's fucking David. I can see you in your younger years with that hair and those woes. And the shyness. Yeah, and you mean so well. Yeah, but you could see he's just like a soft boy underneath those eyes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:55 But then probably has a bit of a violent protector side inside of him. And that is you. You are undoubtedly the Edward Scissorhands of this page. You're also pale as shit. You are a thousand percent our Edward Scissorhands of this page. You're also pale as shit. That's right. You are a thousand percent our Edward Scissorhands. Dude, we gotta call Tim Burton, get you in the sequel stat. Oh my god, I love it so much, John.
Starting point is 00:55:15 I do too. I wish you were here to cut up my face by accident. I wish you were my best friend. I wish that, you know, that you could come trim my hair. I wish that Mel Gibson did not do what he did and it was cool to like. Oh, that would be an easier world. Yeah, we could react to more movies.
Starting point is 00:55:36 We could. David, appreciate you being the Mel Gibson of our Patreon page. And I haven't lost sight of the narrative. You're the patriot, man.

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