The Reel Rejects - Extended Version: FOOTLOOSE (1984) MOVIE REACTION!! SO FREAKIN' GOOD!! Kevin Bacon | John Lithgow

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

LET'S DANCE!! Footloose Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: ⁠  / thereelrejects  ⁠ Download PrizePicks today at ⁠https://www.prizepicks.onelink.me/LME...⁠ & use code REJECTS to get $50 i...nstantly when you play $5! Gift Someone (Or Yourself) An RR Tee! ⁠https://shorturl.at/hekk2⁠ John & Andrew hit the dancefloor for one of the most iconic '80s movies of ALL TIME giving their Reaction, Recap, Analysis, Breakdown, Commentary, & Spoiler Review!! Footloose (1984) Full Movie Reaction, Breakdown, Commentary & Spoiler Review! — with hosts Andrew Gordon & John Humphrey diving into the iconic dance-driven classic that turned rebellion, rhythm, and teenage freedom into one of the most beloved films of the 1980s. Directed by Herbert Ross (Steel Magnolias, The Turning Point), Footloose stars Kevin Bacon (A Few Good Men, Mystic River) in a career-making role as Ren McCormack, a city kid who moves to the small town of Bomont — where dancing and rock music have been banned following a tragic accident. What follows is a clash of generations, beliefs, and self-expression as Ren challenges the town’s rigid rules and inspires its youth to reclaim joy through movement. Andrew & John break down the movie’s most iconic moments: Ren’s explosive warehouse dance sequence, the tension-filled town council debates, the emotional conflict with Reverend Shaw Moore (John Lithgow — Dexter, The Crown), the complicated romance with Ariel (Lori Singer), and the unforgettable final prom that proves joy and discipline don’t have to be enemies. They also highlight the film’s legendary soundtrack — featuring hits like “Footloose,” “Let’s Hear It for the Boy,” and “Almost Paradise” — which became inseparable from the movie’s legacy. Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource⁠ Instagram:⁠ ⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en⁠ Twitter:  ⁠https://twitter.com/Agor711⁠ Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. ⁠https://creativecommons.org/licenses/...⁠ Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! ⁠https://www.rejectnationshop.com/⁠ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/⁠  Tik-Tok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://x.com/reelrejects⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/⁠ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. ⁠https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/⁠ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. ⁠https://creativecommons.org/licenses/...⁠ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit⁠ https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo⁠ and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en⁠ Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license.⁠ https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/⁠ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO:⁠ https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects⁠ Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  ⁠https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/⁠ INSTAGRAM: ⁠ https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/⁠ TWITTER:  ⁠https://twitter.com/thereelrejects⁠ Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/⁠ TWITTER:  ⁠https://twitter.com/thegregalba⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:42 John Lickdown. The Trinity. Holy crap. Holy shit. This is insane. Pick one. Whoa. Whoa. This week's videos are sponsored by price picks. The easy to use fantasy sports betting app more on them in just a bit dancers and Volkswagen enthusiasts of the Reject Nation it is a momentous
Starting point is 00:01:12 occasion for Andrew Flash Gordon and John Bangorang I was trying to come up with like a dance related thing but I hesitated and you were there to catch me just like a good dance partner should we're watching footloose today I'm very excited this is the classic
Starting point is 00:01:29 I feel like I've seen many movies reference this movie. I've seen clips of this in various, you know, highlight shows and stuff like that. But I'm excited to actually fully lay eyes on it. Some proto Kevin Bacon. Andrew. How you feel? I'm good. I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah. One of the all-time classics of the 80s, my favorite decade of films and music. So I cannot wait to see what we can connect to another, what was it? What was it? Six degrees of bacon, right? I've kept bacon. So, yeah, I love playing that game. So let's see what actors we can connect to that film for this barrage of that game.
Starting point is 00:02:06 But I'm excited. I've heard so many great things about this film. But, Donald, how are you doing? I'm okay, man. I'm a little tender this morning so I could do with a little, you know, dance catharsis. You don't want to punch it out and just kind of leave it all on the floor and, you know, vibe with some cool music. And, hey. You saw in that one video.
Starting point is 00:02:25 You are good at punching. I do what I can, you know. But yeah, let's get into this thing. Leave like on the video and, yeah, thanks for joining us on another musical Monday. Let's do it. This is going to be fun. No copyright issues with this musical movie. Love those jeans.
Starting point is 00:02:48 That is the most appropriate way to start the film. People moving. Tarantino directed this sequence as a favor to whoever the main director. For sure. If you see Feet, you know it's Tarantino. If you see a white dove, you know, it's John Wu. Herbert Ross. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I've definitely heard this song before. Kevin Bacon. We're bacon. Lori Singer. Oh, this is so fun. Diane Weiss. Diane Weist. Are Weist?
Starting point is 00:03:16 Weist, Weist, Weist, comment below. John, let's go! The Trinity! That's right. Oh, Christopher Penn. I've never seen it say Christopher. Yeah, it's like when you see Owen C. Wilson instead of Owen Wilson. Damn.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Got some names in here, John. Yeah. Where are we in MJ times? I mean, this is 84, right? And he's right at the height of his prime. Dean Pitchford. Ah! Yeah, that'd be me.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Herbert Ross? Oh, my God. I love Herbert Ross. Okay, okay. What else do we got Herbert Ross? Nike. I love a Nike. My Blue Heaven, one of my favorite movies ever in The Secret of My Success with Michael
Starting point is 00:04:01 J. Fox. I love that movie. It feels like the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Sounds like Lithgow. This is what he did before he became the Trinity, huh? This gospel of easy sexuality. Yes. He could take all these.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Oh. Wake up dead man. Yeah, that was actually thinking that too. That I was tired. Oh. No. Damn, he's bringing a lot of energy to this scene. Praise the Lord and singing.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Nothing makes me want to sing more than a song. fiery rant. You and I have been watching a lot of stuff with religious meaning. It's like Dad, that was the best nap I've ever heard. The kid looks positively distressed.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah, she's so like straight-laced and zipped up. Ren. I'm short for like Reneker. We have the difference in their ties, too. You can tell he's a little more rebellious and edgy. Zeepes. Friends are going to be new at the high school tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Hi. Oh. Ha. Hey. Remember you have school tomorrow. And you got to jump in the ocean fall in love with Eric. Wow. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Damn. So young. Uh-oh. Barfmobile. You want a race. You got a race. All right. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:06:10 What a fast and furious. Oh, is that Pig Floyd and the Grateful Dead stickers in his? stickers in his review, her in his back window. And he got the boombox. I'm worried for these guys. Nobody calls me chicken. They're talking about, you know, youthful pregnancies and they're racing cars.
Starting point is 00:06:31 They got the devil in them. Whoa. Please don't tell me she's going to die or something doing this. Holy crap. I don't think this is going to go well. This looks really bad. Holy crap, dude. I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I don't like it. Oh, God damn it. No. No. What the fuck? Holy shit. This is so much more intense than I was ever anticipating. This is insane.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Pick one! Whoever's doing that son, holy shit. Yeah. Whoa! Good Lord! That was exhausting. Holy crap. My heart has...
Starting point is 00:07:28 resumed of beating. Literally almost met the Lord in person. Oh no. Slaughterhouse Five is on the best books of all time. I haven't read enough books, but that book's my favorite. It is. So hard to, like, keep his tongue-died. It's that youthful rebellion.
Starting point is 00:07:55 It's always bubbling up from underneath. Stop to the sister moving out of here from the big city. Just drinking in that thousand mile stare. It's Kevin Bacon in the 80s. Everyone's obsessed. We get it. Where did you hear that?
Starting point is 00:08:16 Ethel, you see how television and those kinds of books influence children? You see? He's the devil. We got to kill him. Jesus. I mean, she's got a very rebellious side to her, too. I feel like her and Ren would be perfect. Look at that Coke, my man.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Yeah, I mean, I know we've only had a small glimpse into her interaction with her dad, but I'm curious how the other interactions are going to go. The ritual of being young. and the like safari that it is to be yeah it's like the whole ecosystem of young life out here but there's music tying it all together this is how you express yourself you dance right man dancing is one of the purest things it's one of the few things I know how to do now that like I can get into the zone and just sort of you know you know when you just go to that catharsis place where you're just kind of fully in your body and your mind is just buzzing along
Starting point is 00:09:34 with the rhythm. The Pac-Man sound. What? He heard it all the way from church. That seemed to the devil's music. Jesus Christ, man. This dude has a hold on this town. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Your mother didn't think you had any money with you. Wow. Interesting. Oh. I'm a feeling I'm not going to love where this goes in terms of what he chooses to do. but that's not the way I expected him to act that. Right there, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:11 No, that definitely subverted my expectations in that moment for sure. He's just disappointed, but... September, when you go up to college, you can dress like David Boy. Come on, let's go. Get that giant cod piece. There's the beetle or the bug. I knew there was a bug in this movie. It's interesting because we've heard a lot of more dance-oriented music, so, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Always see, too. He's also like a rock guy. It's kind of fun. Yeah. Also, too, you can see he's the outsider because everyone's staring at him. God, look at that fit boy. Ooh. I want to start doing that.
Starting point is 00:10:47 I like that leather jacket. No, I have to earn that. I have a new subway take. I have a new subway take that I've been learning the hard way. Roll. Is that Chris Penn? Whoa. Is it?
Starting point is 00:11:01 Baby Chris Penn? Hey, I like that hat, man. You sell men's clothes where you got that? Ha, ha, ha. Chris Penn, man. R-IP. And just in class? Not too much.
Starting point is 00:11:22 You don't want to go blind. Yes. Girls, Andrew. Girls, girls. Girls. Girls. Girls. Now we'd start cutting into each other and these girls will just stop whatever they were doing.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Yeah. Pretty soon. Start buying us beers. This is a great, great operation you got going here. Now eventually it's obvious to me that. He wants to play video games. She wants fries. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:56 She's got these seats in the car. A. A. Hey. He's really fun to watch. Yeah, for sure. He's good at listening in this scene. His reactions.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Ginger Pop. What? All right, still was a good story. That's funny. This is an interesting, yeah, inversion as well. Being invited to the table rather than shunner from a table. It's a very strict religious place. I mean, we almost just saw that happen again.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Who's convinced? You can change their minds, Rand. Oh, everybody's my cousin lives in Montana. He can't dance where she lives either. That's crazy. What's the penal code for that? Get serious. You better buy this boy tape.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Oh, no. Spoon. I'm talking about the band. Yeah. Jim, these plates are now to his state. Uh-oh. Hoosiers. Jim Katz.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Hey, I just bought that. That looks like Alden, Aaron Reich, and weapons. Is there a log? Yeah, love to talk that attitude. Bluffs. Damn, dude. There was this bunch of kids snuck over the state line here or so go to see some rock and roll group, and they were stopped on their way back into town by the police.
Starting point is 00:13:54 They were in church and school probation for weeks. Sounds like a fun place to live. Well, and that thing he was talking about about places where you can't dance. I'm sure that's foreshadowing. Good Reverend. came upon them dancing and was displeased with what he beheld. Daddy? Hmm?
Starting point is 00:14:10 I'm sorry about the other night at the drive-in. I mean, about the music. At the drive-in is a band. I don't know what came over me. You know, I can't always be with you, Ariel. I can't always look out for you. That's your whole goal. The sermon.
Starting point is 00:14:22 What's the music? Oh, it's, uh, I think it's heightened chamber pieces. I do like this music, too. And that kind of music's okay? It's uplifting. It doesn't confuse people's minds and bodies. agreed with him on the first portion of what he said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:38 He's so amused. Dude, that's actually the solid comeback. So now we're friends, right? I burned you. You're not stupid. Okay. Start now. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Hey. Yeah. Through the wipe-off transition. Very Star Wars-esque. George Lucas edited that one moment. That one shot. And Tarantino co-directed the intro. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Chuck Cranston wants to see you. Go find him. I think he wants you to find him. Yeah. Hey, yo. Yo. I volunteered. Where the hell are you?
Starting point is 00:15:47 Oh my God. Always walking on the wild side. I see it, man. I see it 100% so freaking dreamy. What? Definitely was Kevin Bacon doing that. What? He's a gymnast.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Chris Penn is in really good shape, too, in this. He's just trying to make people forget she's a preacher's kid. Is that why she hangs out with Chuck? Maybe people think she's an all-raiser. He's clearly got the strength. Damn, damn! That's impressive. My daddy hates me wearing these boots.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I think your daddy hates you doing most things that you do. It's interesting to watch her at home versus everywhere else. Because, yeah, she's like a totalier person. Everywhere else she's being herself when she's with her dad, she has to contain. Well, it makes me wonder, though, because... Small turn is a car. Oh. Makes me wonder what her true nature is.
Starting point is 00:16:47 You got your crush down here. You're gas in your break. You start off, you just shift it in the high. Just repeating. It's so funny. Y'all bet he's scared, shitless. He turns out in 10 seconds. This.
Starting point is 00:17:08 The contrast. This is so fascinating. That's the devil's lettuce. I see. Okay, okay, okay. So it's not just that they're like forcing him to drive a tractor. It's that they're racing. How did I get myself into this? Has I could be able to die doing this? Just once. Hell yeah. God, look at that. Look at that light and the horses. Maybe not the best place to throw a cigarette. Oh, I love this song.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Oh. Oh. Streetwise Hercules to fight the rising odds. Oh, he's okay, yeah. Hero! It's fascinating watching the contrast because he's so used to drive in one of these. This is his first time. After hero to the end of the night.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Morningland. I never like fully clocked all the lyrics in this song. Wonder if they're actually gonna just crash into each other? I didn't realize, I thought there would be more dancing and less games of chicken. Oh, is he gonna go into the water? Oh, no. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Oh shit. No, don't jump. Don't jump. Come on, man. Oh shit, oh God, oh Christ, oh God, oh Christ. Damn. Damn. Damn.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Hero. Now for some bacon to the morning light. Damn, dude. Thank God for that shoelace, boy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Bummer. RIP to that tractor. He has team practice every day until four. On Monday, Wednesdays and Thursdays, he works... Oh, we know his schedule now. Yes, excellent. Oh, she's so fascinated. By the light of the full moon, he breaks into churchyards and bites the heads off live chickens.
Starting point is 00:19:24 That part is definitely true. He's cute. He's from out of town, and don't tell me that doesn't curl your toes arrow. I know you too well. Thank you, bud. I got my own sources. You know, I've been getting into hog trifle. What do you say we just call this sample?
Starting point is 00:19:37 And you know where you can get some more. What the heck? Oh no, no, no, no, no, don't get in trouble. You know, you're taking some real chances being new in the school. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Do you think I do that with a real joint? Do you know what an OZ is called for these days?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Ouch. You wait. The Reverend was right, got you. The Reverend was right. Now where am I going to get a reefer? There's been some trouble up at the high school. I think it was drugs. You wouldn't know anything about that.
Starting point is 00:20:08 What did you say? I can't hear you. Well, you know, Wren, whenever we used to call up to your folks there in Chicago, I don't think there was any trouble back there, was there? Oh. You just seem to be having a lot of trouble since you moved here. And I figured, you figured where there's smoke, there's fire, right? Oh. You know that I would never try to take the place of your father.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yeah, well, there's no chance of that. Family... Uh-huh. The family's doing a really good job, too. I feel like we may be in for an iconic sequence. Oh! He got the cigarette. Oh, we got the tapes.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Music. Got to go somewhere with pure isolation. Where you can't get in trouble. I felt that. Oh, my God, dude. That's a cream soda. Definitely. God.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And like the Vaseline-out, you know, memory vision. Oh, let's get it, my man. Dude, I get it, man. Letting out all that tension. Oh, the kick. Hell yeah, dude. Go, Ren. This is the old boy shot of dance movies.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Like, this looks like the most cathartic thing of all time. When I'm upset or like, I'm overwhelmed, like, this is all I want to do. It's just dance next to a huge gear. It's a good way to clear your mind, relax. Like, if you can blast out that music and just like move and lose track of your mind and just be in your body, like, holy crap. No greater catharsis in this life. Oh my god the flips
Starting point is 00:21:46 Also if you can move like that too Really helps as well I'm sure there's a stunt guy for some stuff But it looks like there's a lot of stuff that's just kev There's certain shots It's done but there's a lot of shots It looks like I'm baking Ariel I had a feeling she was here too
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah Because she knows his schedule right What? You're gonna report me the police aren't you Alright What makes you think I don't like you You never talk to me at school That shot guy
Starting point is 00:22:19 Hey Do you want to kiss me? Oh Very direct Someday Someday is a good answer to this I get the feeling you've been kissed a lot You know I'm afraid I'd suffer by comparison
Starting point is 00:22:33 Woof Oh not having confidence Well and a backhanded sort of You don't think much of me do you Do you think I'm small town? I think Beaumont's a small town Nobody calls me small town Nobody
Starting point is 00:22:45 I applaud to college as my My father doesn't even know I applied to. He's going to come after me. But I'm going to be gone. Who's going to pay for the colleges, though? Applied to Santa Monica College. Yes. I believe Arnold went there, too.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Dude. It's good enough for Arnold. Holy shit. Uh, dance? She going, no? Oh, second location. Stuff we're not supposed to read. What?
Starting point is 00:23:17 You hear that? Add to her poetry. You hear it? Let's play chicken with it. Yeah. We come out here. Just a few of us and we stand here. Then when the train comes, we make out like crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Oh. Oh. He's like a little bashful, a little shy. Oh, ha. Ha. He checked him in the hips. I don't know if I've ever seen her in anything, but she's doing a great job in this movie. I mean, she's electric.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Come on, no school around. Oh my God, this movie. Not again. Again, please, Ariel. This movie! What the hell? Oh my God, dude. I had no idea how many games of chicken this would involve.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Wow, I was just making a joke. I thought she meant stand up there and scream or make out. Dude, I worry for this woman. Go to her. I want to hear you play this guitar riff. Come on, I'll take him. Yeah, some nice tone on that. It's late.
Starting point is 00:24:35 It's the devil's hour. It's kind of hard to impose a curfew on the young people in my congregation that I can't even enforce in my own home. Have you been drinking? No. I have never drank. Are you listening something? No. You wouldn't mind a breathalyzer then, would you?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Or who were you with? I don't want you to see him anymore. Hey. Oh, boy. Ariel, I don't know what I'm going to do with you. There ain't nothing to do with me, Daddy. You like it or not, this is it. And this is how the Little Mermaid was, uh, script was born.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Why'd you get kicked off the team? Oh, no. He's got it in for me. Now, somehow coach finds out that I brought Ariel home late last night, so I'm a troublemaker, right? Ugh. I'm off the team because they just don't have the funds for one more gymnast this year, but thank you anyway. You know, I'm busting my balls trying to fit in here. And every door is getting slammed on my face.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I don't want outsiders. Uh, yeah. You got an attitude problem. Oh, I got an attitude problem. Yes. As he has an attitude with that quote. I love it. I mean, we're not living in the goddamn middle ages here.
Starting point is 00:25:38 We got the... Yes. We've got failing few. We can start winning a nightclub right there in the church, huh? That's it. Oh, my. Oh, my. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:55 You got nice boots. I love their interactions. Yeah, they're so fun together. They're such like friend goals. People would come up to me and ask me, Reverend, how can you live in such a small town? I'd say to them, you'd never ask me that. Just talking to everyone. seen the same spiel.
Starting point is 00:26:11 The feeling of family that comes from knowing that all of our lives are tied up with each others. Yeah, same to seem talking to older people versus like younger kids in the community. The Lord smiles on us out there. And that's where I'm staying. I'll have some cake. Everyone's just waiting for the cake. Hey, Rwin, where are you taking us?
Starting point is 00:26:31 You're going over the state line. I want you guys to see what you've all been missing. That was straight up ADR behind that pillar there. I don't think his mouth is moving at all. Oh no. Y'all are going to get big time punished for this. I bet you Chuck is going to be there, John. You'll drink better or you'll dance better after you drink, Willard.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Just needs a little liquid courage. No, buddy. All right. Fascinating. Buy him a bit. Oh, my God. This dude has some good social skills. At least, you know, in certain situations.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Oh, Willard. I'm rude for Willard. Yeah, but I think they're setting up a good arc about gaining confidence. Oh, yeah. There you go. Now you're ready. Go dance. Oh, Willard, you can dance to a slow song.
Starting point is 00:27:42 You just hold her. Come on, you're almost there, man. Get to that point. Yeah. Lose. Spit off your Sunday shoes. Food news. Food news.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Go get it. Oh, this does look like the most fun. Come on, man, yes, come on, come on, come on, come on. He's getting there. He's getting there. Come on. Oh, she's in her red boots, the one her dad's loves. Wow, dude.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yes, come on, come on, man. Yeah! Step in there. Don't deck this guy, just step in. Yeah, yeah, you'll have to hit him. Just get your girl. Don't start a fight. Just, just step in.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Whoa. Okay, now Dick him. You got told by Timubert Reynolds. Flakeoff. Woof. Willard. Oh, I hate that. Damn.
Starting point is 00:29:06 How is it? Shot he took. Whoa. So drunk. Is there a story to do it? Uh-oh. Bing Crosby was coming through town? These kids were playing highway tag and they were drunk
Starting point is 00:29:32 So one car hits the other one And they both go over the edge of the bridge Dead Woof All the brothers want to got killed Oh no Ah okay Adds a lot to his reasoning
Starting point is 00:29:47 And his motivation Wow that adds a lot of depth His character Woof Oh, you're gonna have to start answering for ourselves Oh no No no no no no no no No no no no no no no no no no
Starting point is 00:30:05 That's where we cross the line I've never hit anyone in my life No you can tell he's it's not okay but you can tell he's regretful over it she's become so willful obstinate
Starting point is 00:30:19 she's like their father the two of you are so wonderful ones you had so much to talk about it's not as if we don't talk I think you talked about is everything you're upset about sometimes people run out of things to say
Starting point is 00:30:34 long pause oh golly people run out of things to say After 20 years, I still think you're a wonderful preacher. You can lift a congregation up so high they have to look down to see heaven. Wow, what a way to put that. Got to work on our father skills, though. But it's the one to one where you need a little quirk. That's great.
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Starting point is 00:32:41 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup price picks. Good to be right. Oh, is that Chuck? Jesus Christ. Oh my. He sure the hell is. Hey. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Wow. That's dude. Hey, my man. Don't you have any better manners in that? Do you my mom to teach you better? I guess holding down all this. That's so cool. You want that guy in your corner? Yes, you do.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Uh-oh. Is that the day to do it? Remember we used to say that? You're going to get creamed. My man, let's go. Let's go. Love a good montage genre, special in the 80s. Almost on beat with the song.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Yes. Yes, my man. Hell yeah. Also get a good, you know, the, what do you call? all those squats. This shot looks like a jeans commercial. The kids are helping. Shaking our house.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Oh no. Oh no. What's his home life? Wow. Jesus. Dude, Chris Penn is fucking great in this. He's such a joy to watch. And I've enjoyed a lot of his
Starting point is 00:34:34 performances, but like, I've never seen him this way quiet. So many great shots of like feet. I think Tarantino did that one again. Yeah, everyone. Oh, my God, dude. Yeah, he is both fit and he's getting the form going. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Not bad. Not bad at all. He got to be stretching all the time, too, for this. Shit. Now the women are going to be buying him the beers. I know. Oh, bring it in. Come on.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah. Hug it out. Sarah, Jessica Parker, is going to fall in love with you. This was found in one of the athletic lockers over at the school. A book like this should be burned. Oh, shit. Something that it isn't. Interesting take on that.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I mean, fair. And it leaves the book, so we're happy about that. We'll make a folks some worry. Need you to get folks on board. A lot of folks worry a little too much. Interesting. Doesn't take much time for corruption to take root, reverent. How long is that, Roger?
Starting point is 00:35:43 About as long as it takes compassion to die. Wow. He is such a fascinating character. I mean, he believes in something, but... Well, in that scene, you're kind of on board with him. Yeah, I know, exactly. That's what I'm saying. I wanted to talk.
Starting point is 00:35:56 You don't have to tell me. Yeah Should never tractor race that guy You're so stupid Slap him Wolf dude Oh Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:13 Oh don't hit her Wow You piece of shit I know I know TIA you but still Geez man Oh my god dude Whoa
Starting point is 00:36:28 Oh shit Oh my god Dude oh my god Gee. That's so harsh. Poor thing. There's nothing to understand. It's for taking on my father.
Starting point is 00:36:48 You don't get to turn my fight into some kind of a screw you to your old man. Damn. They are good at bringing what feels like the nuance. It's just the organism that is the town. Maybe you shouldn't turn so hard to forget. Oh, God. I want to try to make your father forget him, you know? Not that easy.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I know. Yeah. Everyone deals with grief in their own way. I still get the box. What's in the box? Is it someday yet, John? Think you might ever kiss me? What a sweet moment.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Aw, with the pan and the light. Someday is today and the music rip. Holy crap. Woo! Thinking that in camera, that is insane. That is one of the most gorgeous shots. Yeah. Like, holy shit that close up was wild.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Like, beautiful. So close to the train tracks, too. Harvey and Bernie were here for a long time. He's still talking about that dance? I must feel like he... It's not going to happen. One more thing that Ariel is not going to forgive me for, but... He's got a little bit of an accent.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Can you step out of the way long enough to realize that she's doing all this for you? I don't see that. I just know that when kids dance together, they become sexually irresponsible. I can't take the chance of you. Didn't we used to dance, honey? You talk like that's the only thing that gets them excited. All this repression will do the trick. When we used to look at each other and get excited.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Close his Bible. None of this is going to want to do one stupid accident. Yeah. I'm responsible for the spiritual life of this community. Shaw, you can't be a father to everybody. You can't be with everybody all the time. I thought that at least you believed in me. He does believe in you, but just giving you a different perspective on things.
Starting point is 00:38:27 100%. Your kiss made it all better. No, I, uh, yeah, I'm nervous. He's taking on a whole town. There's only seven up. No, we're bringing in reinforcement. Yeah, we need everyone on our side. No, John, this reminds me of Cobra Kai,
Starting point is 00:38:44 where they got to get the tournament back on. So I had to get one reference in, even though it has nothing to do with that. I'm glad you got that. This is crazy. How did you know where to find all this? Are you kidding? My father?
Starting point is 00:38:56 This is going to be a Bible-backed argument. Oh, you know, you know, you can always find the answers in the Bible, so you've got to speak their language, John. Oh, Christ. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This belched. What the hell is that? That's terrible.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Wow, in the kids' window. I don't think they, I mean, it's not justifying, but I don't think they knew they were throwing it to the kids' windows, but still, doesn't matter which room you threw it. It's just a wild reveal, yeah. I thought it would be like the living room. Yeah, that's what I figured, too. Before you've seen, they lost her job.
Starting point is 00:39:39 She lost her job? Where shouldn't you call the police? Oh, I don't know how much good it'll do. I mean, the police aren't even going to be on their side. Oh, my God. I don't understand this town. It's like something's choking everybody. Only they don't know they're choking.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Yeah. That's a deep line. Why this dance in this town? It's not just about a dance. He's trying to free them up spiritually. You're not going to understand this. Try me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Dad, first threatened to leave. I thought it was because of me. I figured there was something that I could do and then he'd want to stay. Eish. But when he left, just like that, everything I'd done, it didn't mean shit. It didn't matter. And I felt like what difference did it make. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:40:24 No. I'm thinking, I could really do something, you know. It's a great performance. Really do something for me this time. Otherwise, I'm just going to disappear. Yeah, a higher purpose. Funny enough. I guess that ends the discussion.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And so the price of a dog license will go from 350 to 450. Going to be fascinating, going from dog licenses to the next. thing. All right. Now we can consider any new business. Meet. My name is Ren McCormick
Starting point is 00:40:53 and I would like that the law against public dancing within the town limits of Beaumont be abolished. Yeah, man. Here, here. That's the guy he works for,
Starting point is 00:41:02 right? Yeah, I think so. I'm afraid I would have a lot of difficulty endorsing an enterprise which is with genuine peril. Stand up, Tim. God, what a way of phrase this.
Starting point is 00:41:13 The thing that distresses me even more, Renn is the spiritual corruption that can be involved. Renn, I'm afraid you're going to find that most of the people in our community are going to agree with me on this. Well, yeah, already. I mean, you already knew that. It's outrageous. Alonar, sit down.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Ooh, let's go, Mama. I think Mr. McCormick has a right to be heard. Go mom. All right. You wouldn't think that we were. encouraging destruction. From the oldest of times... Oh, is he speaking like from the Bible?
Starting point is 00:41:50 They danced in prayer or saw that their crops would be plentiful, and they danced to stay physically fit. Yeah? And show their community spirit. Yeah? To celebrate. It's a dancing that we're talking about. Hey.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Hey. Don't you quote the Bible to me, son? Do the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song. Let them praise his name in the dance. Amen. Amen. Amen.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Bless you. Thank you. Thank you. Pater, feel the Spirit of Sanctu. Grazie. Jesus came from the house of David. It's like you believe in all in religions. They're dancing.
Starting point is 00:42:31 And dancing. Dancing. There's no retort. In Eccleseastes assures us that there is a time to every purpose under heaven. Time to laugh and time to weep. A time to mourn. And there is a. time to dance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:51 God, this is a beautiful scene. Yeah, it really is. This and the other scene with his mom. It's really good. It is our way of celebrating life. Yes, my man. It's the way it was in the beginning. It's the way it's always been. It's the way it should be now. That was awesome. Good job, Ryan.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah. 100%. I love that. There's nothing they can say back to that. You believe so deeply in religion and he's quoting the Bible. You know, you... When are you going to wake up and smell the cough? Oh. Shawmore already in his pocket.
Starting point is 00:43:35 That's some bad hat, Harry. That's from one of my favorite movies. And the production company was made from it. Dancing Basin. It was to do something here in Beaumont. Basin's, what, 30 miles away? Do it here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And the sun and the air are dark. My reason of the smoke. Hey. I see get such a kick out of watching you work up your son. And now? Now. I don't know what I was going to say. I see the stage.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Jesse Costumes. Show business, isn't it? In its own way. I haven't heard from you for a while. I was angry. You were angry. I was not. Yes, you were.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Didn't you hit her? Yeah, dude. Ariel, I cannot let this dance happen. Because people fornicate. That's what you told the church board. That was not meant for your years. My duty to look after the spiritual growth of you. I'm not even a virgin.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. Jeez. Ah, shit. Ha, ha. decide to be the saviors of everybody's souls. That's my job. When you burned all of these, what are you going to do then?
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah. Satan is not in these books. He's in here. Go ahead and judgment on yourselves. Mm. Go home now. Come on, both. He's got such a major influence over everyone.
Starting point is 00:45:11 God, this is a fascinating movie. It's like you know so much about like, oh, the dances and then, you know, oh, it's the town that outlawed dancing. But it's so much more than that. Like, this is like a big old. ensemble. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with it. I thought it was just going to be a very simplistic
Starting point is 00:45:26 film about dancing. Like, no, it's a lot deeper than that. Sometimes things don't make any sense. If you could explain to me about my father, maybe I could explain to you about your son. Ooh. Got to go. Listen.
Starting point is 00:45:38 I know you're going to do what you got to do, but thanks for listening. Huh. Respect. Ren. Well, thank you. Huh. Huh. That was your friend, Ren.
Starting point is 00:45:49 He came here to ask me if he could take you to a senior prom. Aw. That's the old way of doing it, right? Old school way. I know how hard it is for you. I know I'm not making it easier. There's a difference between what is right and what is easy.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I just don't know that I believe in everything you believe. That's okay. Kind of like the mom. Very conflicted. Oh, where we started. Yeah. But just he's got a newfound perspective. I'm really like a first time parent.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Who makes mistakes and tries to learn from them. I appreciate the accountability, though, he's having. And like that parent, I find myself at that moment when I have to decide, do I hold on? Oh, do I let go? If we don't start trusting our children, how will they ever become trustworthy? Woo! Sir, fascinating. class of the high school has got use of the warehouse in basin for the purpose of putting on a senior dance
Starting point is 00:46:56 yeah join me to pray to guide them in their indepts wow that's beautiful that's really beautiful quite quite an art what a movie damn this is crazy I didn't expect this movie to make me emotional Too, it's smart because, like, music is such a huge part of it, so it makes the heart swell that much more potent in these, like, desperate moments or these rousing speeches or whatever, these moments of catharsis. Running away will never make you free. That's a great sentiment.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Oh, and they established it earlier, of course. At the mill? Yeah. He's like a pass out. I hope Chuck doesn't come and ruin the prom. Oh, God. Hey, man, if you just want us to dance. Hey.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Oh, come on, Mama. Oh. She's always so heartwarming and so welcoming and so sweet and all, usually all our films. You can't very well go to a prom without a corsage. Gorgeous corsage for a gorgeous woman. Where do you think it has a wrist thing? Yeah, maybe you didn't have to. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Rended? Oh, wait. Don't go on to him about it because. Oh, dad? Wow. Oh, dad. Hey, I was going to come up with you. I was...
Starting point is 00:48:38 Hey, he... What's the matter? You look amazing. You're beautiful. You're beautiful. I mean it. You are beautiful. You're both beautiful.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Oh, boy. Oh, no. I got to let's you in for the other side. That's so funny. Yes, let me be a... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. That's so cute.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Wow. Damn. Look at that one of spoons. Oh, my goodness. I would be over there for a good portion of the prom as well as dancing. Get some punch. Oh. None of them have really danced.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Let's go, Ren, set the tone for everyone. Everyone's afraid of the trap. We're going to get arrested. Yeah, the second one of us starts dancing. They're the first to go down. All right. Let's follow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:40 I want to see Willard dance. Yeah. Did all that practicing. Oh. Are they chaperoning? Oh, boy. Are they just going to see their daughter? Well, let's take a closer look.
Starting point is 00:49:53 No, she'll think I'm checking up again. No, she won't even know we're here. Come on. Oh, boy. Oh, I'm recapturing our love, too. I hope this goes nicely. You're the last folks I expected to see around here tonight. Eh.
Starting point is 00:50:07 You're real one, Andy. Reverend, you've done a good thing here. Well, I'm still not sure it was the right thing. Comes close. Comes close. That's better we can say than we can say a lot of the time. Dance. Oh, please do a dance.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Please. It's just the two of us again. May I have this dance? And some room for the Holy Spirit. Oh. So adorable. God, I am rooting for these two. They're on the righteous path, Donald.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Shaw. Oh. Yes. Yes. Let's go, my man. Oh, that's not shot. Oh, no. No.
Starting point is 00:50:50 These assholes. Hello, Willard. Hello, Joe. Don't you look sweet? Cute. You're going to fight. Oh, my God, dickheads. These guys suck.
Starting point is 00:51:14 What? I mean, he is a gymnast, right? Yeah. Oh, no, ruining his suit. Oh, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh. God. Oh,
Starting point is 00:51:32 whoa. Yeah. God, and he like rolled back. It reverse. Oh. Those gymnastics will help you out. You were great.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Whoa, what a shot. What a shot. What a shot. Let's dance. Oh, that's a famous shot too. Yeah, I think I had seen that. I didn't realize the beginning of it was. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Nice Christmas lights on the. camera rig. Hey. Taking them off, John. Hey, my man. Hey. Hey. Damn.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I love that they put the song in for a third time. It's the title track, man. He got to. Hey. Nice, my man. And the raining glitter is like such a euphoric touch. Oh, that must have been so much fun
Starting point is 00:52:35 to clean up. Yeah. Kick off your Sunday shoes. Foot loose. God, too, and the way people are able to synchronize. That's one thing about dances in slightly earlier moments of time is like, it seems like the communal dance is a lot more of a thing than it is now. This is such a fun setting.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Hey. You have tied him well, Ren. Like the trading off of dancing and like, you know, yeah, you might be here with your partner, but these two guys are doing a dance now. And then, you know, everybody else changes up. Dude, this is a really beautiful arc for Willard on. Yeah, dude. Oh my god, let's go, let's go.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Holy crap. They all had this within them. Yeah, get the moves going. Come on, my man, oh, whoa! My man's popping walking. Oh, my God, what? Holy crap this guy. Damn.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Who taught you these moves, man? Who's a very white town? Who taught you how to do this? Oh my God, let's go. Wow. We get a little bit of that break dance going. Oh my God, this is so fun. And they've found like so many great shots to keep this appealing and vibrant and moving and bubbly.
Starting point is 00:53:56 And everybody cut. Kota. Wow. What a choice. Fascinating. Oh. Credits roll. Damn.
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Starting point is 00:54:42 Oh, I miss when we would get credits like this. Yeah, absolutely, man. while we enjoy these wonderful credits people Diane Weist man doing the work there were so many wonderful performances in this god Chris Penn Sarah Jessica Parker all these guys if you have made it to this point of the video gang
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Starting point is 00:56:00 if you could we very much appreciate that Andrew John before we hop into some questions how you feel and foot loose great by the way I did not know I did not know it was Kenny Loggins who did foot loose and he of course two years later
Starting point is 00:56:14 did Top Gun. Amazing. So it's very iconic. I really enjoyed this movie. I think we spoke about it slightly during the reaction. I knew Kevin Bacon was in this movie. I knew there was dancing.
Starting point is 00:56:27 And the only reference to this film that I really had was in Guardians of the Galaxy Dance Off at the end of that movie. And then also I think in Avengers Infinity War as well, Tom Holland's Spider-Man said, what, dance off like in Footloose?
Starting point is 00:56:42 Exactly like in Footloose. So there's only a little bit bit I knew so I just thought there was going to be a very simplistic entertaining film about dancing, which great. I was looking forward to that. But there was a lot of depth in this movie that I was not expecting. And there was a lot of emotional moments as well I wasn't expecting. So I was very pleasantly surprised in that way. I had a feeling too. It was directed by Herbert Ross, which I mentioned My Blue Heaven and Secret of My Success. So from those two films of his, I knew I was going to love it just from that and 80s Kevin Bacon as well. I knew I was going to
Starting point is 00:57:14 enjoy this film. I just didn't know was going to go to the depths that it did go to. So I was pleasantly surprised in that essence. And just a lot of performances, I appreciated the arcs as well. Like even, I really feel like, and of course there's certain films nowadays that do do it too, but I really feel like a lot of films in the 80s and in the 90s, early 2000s, really paid attention, especially with supporting characters, really going deeper into those arcs. Like a character like Willard, for instance, could have been such a throw. throwaway character or a character that, just a supporting character that you don't really have that,
Starting point is 00:57:48 that full arc. And with his character, for instance, he's, you know, you got the fun burn and he's the comedic relief. And then you got the, oh no,
Starting point is 00:57:58 he's got a little bit of a confidence issue. He doesn't like to dance. And just, just in general, like learning the dance just got him just being confident in general. And like, I appreciate, like,
Starting point is 00:58:08 giving full dividend to that type of character in, in the movie who, like, the full focus is not on him. But I appreciate giving, like, you know, I appreciate the lock-in on a character like that. And then when it comes to Ren being the outsider, the fish out of water in a town like this, where everyone looks at you, for the most part, as the pariah of the town, you know, and still like having that rebellious side to you and still sticking to your guns,
Starting point is 00:58:36 I appreciate and resonate so much with a character like that. Kevin Bacon's such an incredible performance. There were like two scenes that really stood up. out to all the scenes he was incredible but two scenes really stuck out to me the one where he was talking to his mom about no matter what he did his dad did not stick around so he almost felt like he was useless in that way and then you know what was his true purpose in life and then there was the scene where he was speaking to the town council and like you know i got to find the answer so let me look in the bible let me speak their language to them because how are they going to retort that back to
Starting point is 00:59:07 me well and because i'm also experiencing a higher calling yeah yeah for sure for sure but i thought that was so brilliant. It just showed also too, and I know that Ariel's character gave him the book, too, to help him in that moment, too, but it just shows the resourcefulness for those two characters as well, but I thought that was
Starting point is 00:59:26 phenomenal. I love that, but what about you? What did you think? Yeah, this was incredible, man. This really took me by surprise in a lot of lovely ways. I was looking forward to this. I thought this would be a fun time, and certainly, you know, it's an iconic beloved film. But,
Starting point is 00:59:43 But yeah, I love a surprise like this because this had obviously stuff I was expecting and some of the classic, you know, moments you've seen, especially the, you know, abandoned factory dance sequence has been parodied and has been clipped, you know, to death. But yeah, this was such a beautiful, you know, well-rounded piece of art, you know, in a way because it's like you said, everything gets that attention to detail. This feels kind of, yeah, it is of an older time and it feels like it because. Everybody, for the most part, feels like a living person. And from the outside of the movie, you think, like, oh, you know, the reverend's going to be this fiery brimstone guy. And they draw, like, a portrait of the town of everybody in the town. And even, you know, from Kevin Bacon to Shaw, to everyone in between,
Starting point is 01:00:31 they draw these, you know, really lovely portraits of who they, you know, want to embody who they get the kind of image they're putting out there. and then who the person is inside of that and what they're struggling with and dealing with. And it really seems to like, you know, draw these bits of character history that feel alive and real. And then, you know, when you're looking at the rest of the characters
Starting point is 01:00:54 like a Willard or something like that, yeah, he's not the point. But, you know, that gets its appropriate amount of growth and payoff. And, you know, even other smaller characters still have these moments of personality. And there are these times where you're cutting around to characters.
Starting point is 01:01:10 we don't really even know, and yet they're still, you know, alive. They're still, you know, kind of you can feel the mood of a room. You can feel, you know, the, again, communal ebb and flow of this town. And some aspects of that community are constricting, and some aspects of it are beautiful. And, you know, the ideal of what, you know, a community should be. And I liked that, yeah, even though there's such diametric opposition between, you know, the eyelines of the characters, especially between, Gawai.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Ren and Shaw, obviously, the kind of two polar, you know, points of this debate. Like, I do love the way that this ultimately culminates and the fact that, like, it's not as explosive and, like, melodramatic as you're expecting. So, yeah, it's like, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:00 he ultimately has to match the reverend on his level, and he is kind of experiencing, as he expresses to his mom, this, like, higher calling. I can do something that's good, that's bigger than me. It was about this dance, but now it's about something even greater than that. And I loved that, you know, she brought him the Bible with the verses picked out and, you know,
Starting point is 01:02:20 highlighting the fact that, yeah, like, there is hazard, there is treachery, you know, it's, that's the thing about most stuff in life is, you know, yeah, there are corrupting forces or there are opportunities to fall astray. However, oftentimes it's the same exact thing that can lead to, you know, great catharsis or communal expression or you know just a sense of you know shared you know love and and mindedness or whatever you want to call it I love that idea yeah these people in this in whatever verse that was you know they danced in front of the Lord you know they danced to celebrate they danced to mourn they danced for all kinds of reasons and so yeah like as a as a
Starting point is 01:03:06 you know sort of like oh we got to save the rec center we got to take on oppression like it has all the like satisfying stuff about that but it also has like a really beautifully tangible just essence where you feel the place that they're in and like all these games of chicken they were playing early on in the movie like you feel like there's not much to do around here and there's also like a lot of these like kind of run down abandoned structures and things it's small town and you feel like you know it's it's sustaining but you can also get the sense in the background that it's not you know maybe on its strongest footing and yeah like his whole whole pursuit to guide and sort of, you know, maintain the whole town's spiritual life and the journey
Starting point is 01:03:47 of letting go of that and the journey of letting go as a parent. There's just so much beautiful, you know, use of themes in this movie. And I didn't expect, yeah, it to be quite such a thematically thoughtful experience and to be so cathartic and to confront such difficult issues. And again, without ever, you know, getting some explosive scene where they're talking about his dead son, her dead brother, you know, we still feel the impact of that and the weight of that and the way that it can twist you up and kind of freeze you in time.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And the same with Kevin Bacon and his dad and all that stuff. And moving to this place where he's a complete outsider and everybody kind of, you know, judging him, sitting in judgment based on that. And yeah, this was just so beautiful. Like it was well-paced. Story was well told. It's a slice of life,
Starting point is 01:04:35 but it has a clear set of themes and a clear direction. and then to culminate on this dance at the end and really just to spend time in that at the end of the movie I thought was really nicely handled. I could go on about this movie forever. This was lovely and this was a really great surprise. Like this is like, you know, at risk of sounding silly. Like this is like, this is cinema, you know?
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah, no, it is. Rousing and it makes you feel and it moves you and it also speaks to a lot of different things. You know, it's fun, it's classic and they're, you know. And John Lithgow's character, Shaw, He really subverted my expectations too. I just, I thought he was going to be, like you said, a very fiery type of character.
Starting point is 01:05:13 The way they introduced him and he was not going to be able to pull away from what he believed in and then to have this different perspective given to him. And also, too, the great level of depth that they gave him, too, of understanding why he came to be this way as well. I mean, he already was, yeah, I understood, like, where he was coming from, even at the beginning, but then adding, like, the loss of his son, like, to, I believe they said it was a drunk driver, right? He got hit.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Well, they were playing some kind of game. Okay. And yeah. Whatever the case is like, and now he feels it's his, it's his duty to be the father of the town, if you will, this spiritual father of the town to make sure everyone is protected and no one ever gets in a position where this can ever happen. He doesn't want anyone to ever feel this kind of grief ever again. But also at the same point, now he's technically suffocating everyone and doesn't even realize it. Yeah, we're fighting it with the law and spirit. spirituality and we've over corrected
Starting point is 01:06:08 to the point of oppression. It just adds a very tragic and fascinating angle to why he is doing what he's doing as opposed to this guy is enforcing his beliefs on everyone. So I'm like, wow. They did a really good job of like
Starting point is 01:06:24 the Lithgow character especially is one that I think coming into this movie you're like, oh, we're not going to agree with this guy. But they really took time to paint him as a real guy and like all the conversations at home. Yeah. Like you really, I love him and Diane Weiss together. I thought her presence and her influence was really terrific.
Starting point is 01:06:43 And she brought so much presence and spoke so loudly with, you know, mostly a lot of body language. She's not a super verbose character, but when she speaks, it counts. And yeah. Yeah, you feel the family unit. You just everything feels so alive. Yeah. And, yeah, nothing feels.
Starting point is 01:07:01 It feels so grounded. Not much, you know, like, eh, Chuck's a bit of a, you know, he's just like a bully asshole guy. but even that, you know, feels realistic enough for where we are. Yeah, totally. And I think, too, when he sees the effect he's having on other people, including his own family, is like, wow, I need to take a step back and be reflective of what's happening.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Yeah. And I appreciate characters like that. It adds nuance. Yeah. That's complexity. Yeah, absolutely. This was a top-notch, man. Yeah, no, I was really expecting just very simplistic film.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Like, no, there's a lot. a lot deeper. I appreciate it. Great use of music. Yeah, great coming of age, great ruminations on spirituality. So many different things
Starting point is 01:07:44 that they tackled and really did a good job. And even the town, like as much as there is that sort of like, oh, you're a city boy and small towns are different. This didn't seem to be condescending
Starting point is 01:07:54 too heavily. It's like when he's talking about why he lives where he does and why he loves the town, he feels closer to God out here, he feels closer to community. I'm like, that's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:08:04 And I believe that. And yeah, it's a movie that does nicely with its most important characters to give them all a tangible perspective, even if you don't agree and, you know, give people these layers of like, yeah, you're one person. It's like she says, I see costumes and I see performance when you're up on the pulpit. But it's a different guy at home. And you could get to pick up on that way before she ever says that. You know, you're a different guy. And that's out in life. True.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And that happened too. And when he spoke to the town at the end. Yeah. Because he was that guy. And he came to them humbly, like, yeah, and very human. And, yeah, this is super, super beautiful. Let's hop into some questions here. Thanks for chiming in, gang.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Like I said earlier, if you want to ask us a question, if you want to get a look at what we're shooting each day, Patreon.com slash the real rejects is the place to do that. Let's kick it off with Just a Girl, 392. Hi, John and Andrew. You two are one of my favorite pairs of rejects. Thank you so much. I love this movie.
Starting point is 01:09:06 So happy you are watching it. Question, do you think the movie is actually about dancing, or is it more about how the town's adults are dealing with their grief? I think it's a bit of both. I mean, obviously, we know dancing is very prevalent in the film. But I think grief plays a major theme in the film. And I just think that a very big thing in this movie, is about how, you know, dancing is very cathartic.
Starting point is 01:09:37 You know, a lot of things that we just bottle up within us, whether that is a confidence thing for like Willard or just grief for Shaw, right? A lot of things that we do to unwind is dancing. So I think you can use that as a way to unwind, rather. I think that there's a prevalent way you can say that it's definitely both. But there are a lot of people that are dealing with grief, and that's how Reverend Shaw is,
Starting point is 01:10:05 that's how he gets the town to understand him. He emotionally conforms to them. And that's how they, they understand his perspective and where he's coming from. And they understand him in that way. So, and then a lot of the other kids, they feel that they are strangulated in that way. And there's nothing to do, as John was pointing out earlier, right?
Starting point is 01:10:28 I mean, you got kids playing literal chicken with trains and 18 wheelers. So I think... Especially if you can't do any of the fun stuff. Like, what are we going to do? Yeah, they have laws against certain types of music and actual dances. So on a lot of the things we would do together.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Yeah, for sure. For community. For sure. So I think you can make an argument. The film is definitely about both. I mean, there's some heavy and deep themes here in this film. So that's what I would say. What about you?
Starting point is 01:10:57 Yeah, dancing is the conduit, most certainly. Dancing is an example. of, I think, something the greater that the film is getting at. Yeah, I think there's definitely elements of dealing with grief because certainly Shaw and Ariel are dealing with that and Wren is dealing with that.
Starting point is 01:11:14 And it seems like everybody, you know, everybody in some way must be dealing with that. And, yeah, again, the ways that grief can freeze you and change you and make you either cautious or detached or, you know, any number of things. But I think largely the movie, to me, about spirituality, higher callings, community.
Starting point is 01:11:35 And yeah, you know, dealing with grief and not letting it, again, stunt your life or twist you up into something, you know, repressed or bitter or angry. And yeah, it's about finding and, you know, fighting for the places where, yeah, we can commune and be spiritual and accepting that that means different things. And it's about learning to trust. I think that thing that he says in the sermon at the end is really lovely. That whole thing about, like, I have tried so long to, you know, be your shepherd and to be in all of your lives all the time. But I got to kind of trust you. How do you become trustworthy if nobody trusts you to go off on your own and, you know, make your own choices, mistakes, and learn from those and all that stuff? It's very beautifully said by you.
Starting point is 01:12:27 I think, too, when he was, as he took that step back, and just having an understanding that he was seeing, look what the town is doing from the lessons that are learning from me. They're burning books. Look what my daughter is doing. She's becoming very rebellious and doing everything opposite of what I'm trying to teach.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Yeah, the kids are getting more rebellious and further from the path, one would argue. And the adults are becoming more draconian and constricted. Exactly. You know, raising alarm over every little thing. And yeah, it's like he's at the perfect crossroads to be like, well, both of these are, are extremes that are coming from my guidance.
Starting point is 01:13:04 And I, yeah. I like, but I like that he's at being accountable in that way. But also I think the most important thing, his wife is being very understanding of him, being still very soft-spoken and still being very supportive in that way too. And saying, honey, I understand, I'm still your biggest rock. I'm still your rock. I'm still here to support you. But making him understand the different lenses of everything.
Starting point is 01:13:27 And I appreciate that about her so much. Like she could have easily ripped his head off and said like, this is what you're doing, blah, blah, blah, you know what I mean? So I appreciate that so much about her character. Because there was a time too where for a certain portion of the film, like, where's that in a waste? I felt like we're not getting enough of her. And then they inserted her in the film.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Like, okay, this is why they had, there was a little bit of the film where she wasn't in that portion. But I love how much, how effective she was with her character. Every time I see her in something lately, I'm impressed. She's great. She has such presence. Always. And yeah, she communicates so much.
Starting point is 01:14:03 The thing about, like, I loved what they did with her character, too, because in a different movie, maybe a lesser movie, not necessarily. But, you know, you could imagine the more stereotypical version of this being, like, you know, sometime act three she comes in and is like, Shaw, I'm leaving. I've had enough of them. Whereas, like, you really do believe, you know, her love for him and the fact that, like, you can see the kids. they once were. And you can see how they fell in love. And you can see how you can see what the healthy version of this is. And I love that we don't again need to go too deeply into that and like, you know, dissect it in a way that, you know, is over killed.
Starting point is 01:14:44 It's subtle and it's nice. And it's, yeah, it's properly, I feel like, proportioned to everything. They went the opposite of the trophy route. I appreciate it. And yeah, and we last thing I'll say on this is like we did mention, and certainly lots of things cover this. but we mentioned like Wake Up Dead Man and certainly that movie has a lot of ruminations on faith and especially people who are, you know,
Starting point is 01:15:05 guiding other people's faith and how do you approach that? Do you approach that from a place of love or a place of fear? And it seems like a lot of this movie is also about going from a place of love and learning to transition that into coming from a place of, or coming from a place of fear because of trauma, because of things you've experienced and learning to let go of that so you can go back to, you know, know, being motivated from a place of love.
Starting point is 01:15:30 And so, like, we enter the movie on him delivering this fiery sermon that is very much sort of geared towards guilt and making you afraid. And then, you know, by the end, he is giving a more loving sermon, even though you can tell he's conflicted and you can tell he's sort of processing this in real time. And it's not the same pageantry he's used to doing. You can tell that he is speaking with a different tone. And it seems like he is opening back up to growth and love. and leading with that
Starting point is 01:15:59 instead of leading with fear, leading with where's the devil going to be next? It's in here. And a good way to bring him out is to make everyone afraid. So yeah. A lot of lot of lot.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Like that's again, the most rewarding things about this. This is a very thematic movie. I love that. But it's also about music because, yeah, and dancing, because that's a spiritual practice.
Starting point is 01:16:20 When he goes, that famous, famous scene in the middle of the movie where he goes to the abandoned warehouse and he just dances it out, that is a spirit. That is a spiritual moment. He goes to church and prays the way he knows how to do it.
Starting point is 01:16:33 And even now, it's kind of making me emotional to say that. Because it's like, that's like, that's a beautiful thing. And it's like, yeah, it's cool and it's fun and it's easy to meme that. But like, low key, you know, it's like I experience some kind of transcendence when dancing, you know, in the right circumstances. And this speaks to that. I've seen you. You transcend beautifully, man. Well, I mean, you know, part of it is also letting go of how you look cool while you're doing it, just accepting that it's for you and it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Sure. But yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm glad that, you know, someone like Willard. As long as you don't go viral in the wrong way. Someone like Willard went through that where it's like, yeah, dude, don't even trip. Just learn how to feel the music and that's truly all that you. I need Ren to teach me so I can dance. We all want Rendez to teach us.
Starting point is 01:17:22 All right, Master T. All right. Thank you so much for being a royal reject. message we appreciate your question according to star lord this is the greatest movie of all time do you agree or disagree with his statement john at the moment i do you know i don't know like i don't know what those sounds were i don't know what the best movie of all time is but but watching this i can see this you know you're always hesitant to be like this might be one of my favorite movie. But like low key, I was blown away enough that this could be easily become one of my favorite
Starting point is 01:17:58 movies. Because, yeah, I'm with Star Lord. This movie's pretty. Because again, if you love music, this is steeped in music. If you like dancing, this is steeped in dancing. If you like acting and filmmaking, it's got good acting and filmmaking, it's rousing, it's potent, and it also has tons of stuff on its mind. And it's masterful. No, I mean, look, Star Lord makes a very good argument. here and he was a what was he taken in 1988 by Yandu so I mean up to that point look my favorite movie of all time is still a shawshank
Starting point is 01:18:30 redemption I'm going to stick with that one if I had been taken in 1988 although I was born in that year but I was Star Lord I might go with RoboCopp although it would be a tough choice between Robocop and this one yeah that's an amazing movie there's a lot of deep and heavy themes and that and it's an incredible satire in
Starting point is 01:18:48 its own right as well but like I said this this movie had a lot of things that I was not expecting and I really appreciate it. So it's, I will say this. It's definitely one of my favorite 80s films now. Sure. And that says a lot because I have a lot of favorite 80s films. Predator, Terminator, I'm just going to name a bunch of Arnold movies right now. Robocop. I mean, the list goes on. So there's, it's right up there. Honestly, it would probably be in my top five favorite 80s films. And I'm not saying that on Recency Bias, which I say that a lot. I really wholeheartedly mean that. It's, it was incredible. And Kevin Bacon was awesome. And Lori Singer,
Starting point is 01:19:22 I'd have to look up her IMDP. I don't know what, but I really appreciated her performance too. Like she was very rebellious in her own right too, especially not only the town that she had lived in her all life, she had so much that she was containing with him, but also you understand like her personal life at home and what she's dealing with with her brother
Starting point is 01:19:40 and then her father, who she lives with and is trying to just like this person that she's trying to comfort to. And yeah, I just really appreciated her performance. and I'd really have to look up her career and see what happened, but she really added an incredible level of depth. And I think her and Kevin Bacon had such incredible chemistry to them.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Yeah, truly. Excellent. Thank you so much. Thank you, Master T. All right, Jay Rush. What up, Jay? Question. Do you know there are no dance towns in universities?
Starting point is 01:20:15 It's weird. I knew someone arrested in South Carolina ones. I guess, yeah, the idea that there's still no dance towns. I did not, honestly. I thought that was just something in the movie. I go. I'm going to Google this. Yeah, that I did not know.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I was going to say, because, uh, because yeah, like, yeah, like, it's one of those things where I could imagine, like, the laws still existing. Um, but at the same time, I can't, I, like, someone out there is enforcing this, but also, uh, I'm fascinated to know. Wow. 225, huh? Sounds, yes. According to the internet, while out.
Starting point is 01:20:51 right bands are rare and often challenged. Many U.S. towns still have outdated, quirky, or strictly regulated ordinances limiting dancing, often time to alcohol, morality, like the footloose inspired places, or noise with enforcement varying from strict to non-existent,
Starting point is 01:21:07 like Encinitas California. Wow. Permits. In California. Or old rules in Missouri, Utah, Montana, etc. Damn, dude. Wow. We should go to all these towns, you and I and show this movie. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:21:22 I wonder if that was a thing that happened too. But yeah, I can imagine versions of this still being a thing. I'm sorry for your friend, though. That's still pretty wild. Yeah, that is crazy. In this day and age, you know, you imagine it wouldn't happen. But the 80s wasn't that long ago, believe it or not. So I hope your friend's doing okay.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Yeah. I didn't spend too long in the slam. That is wild. All right. Just a Girl, 329 back in action. What did you think? And thank you for chiming in of the soundtrack. Do you have a favorite song?
Starting point is 01:21:52 I think the soundtrack is like the film classic and awesome. I would say, I mean, there were so many incredible songs, but maybe I'm doing the simple thing. I mean, we got it three times in the movie, so sorry. And I've heard that song, too, before. I just, I love it. I think it fits so perfectly with the themes and with what the film's trying to achieve.
Starting point is 01:22:15 So I love that song. I'm going to go with Footloose. What about you? Do you want to pick a different song, or do you want to... I mean, it's a crazy scene, but holding out for a hero was... Oh, that was good, too.
Starting point is 01:22:25 A really fun one to hear. And again, it speaks to kind of the youthful sort of quality. You feel in a moment like that. You know, you wanted to feel like that song feels. I also thought the transition, what is it? I'm free that Kenny Logan, that other Kenny Logan song they had as, you know, toward the end. Was it...
Starting point is 01:22:49 You can't run away in your... Right that one? Yeah, something like that. Where they're transitioning, you know, to the end. Yeah, that was a good one too. And everyone's, yeah, like, you know, going from the church to the dance. I thought that was really, yeah, rousing. Yeah, no, I always love songs that really do a good job of expressing not only how we as an audience are feeling,
Starting point is 01:23:05 but what the characters are feeling at the same point, too. And shouts out to Reverend Shaw's chamber music. Not too bad. Oh, yeah. Not too bad. Yeah, the uplifting one. Yeah, that's very uplift. I actually enjoyed it, too.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Yeah. Thank you, Jay. I mean, Justa. You got Jay next again. Yes. All right. What up, Jay? So we got trivia.
Starting point is 01:23:27 People danced when the new Coke was introduced. Why they bought, or when they bought Pepsi stock? Why they bought Pepsi stock? I was noticing at one point in the movie that there was at least a very prominently placed, you know, like Coca-Cola. Bev. You know, I feel like there were a handful of Coca-Cola product placement. Yeah. And I feel like, too, did Coca-Cola do like the, I want to teach the world to dance campaign or whatever?
Starting point is 01:23:57 You would know better than me. Usually I know it's trivia, but that one I don't know. I mean, you know, maybe that's the thing. Maybe the world danced for new Coke and, you know, maybe more square and buttoned-up people went and bought Pepsi stock because those are the kinds of people who would buy stocks rather than just dancing about it. So, you know, as much as I tend to be a Pepsi girl, I guess I would have rather danced than bought stocks. Wonder if they... Then again, I should have probably bought those stocks and danced, so I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Wonder if the stocks rose, then they danced. Yeah. But two footloose. Or are you saying people, like, regretted buying their Pepsi and stuff? Yeah, if they regretted, then they... I feel like New Coke was a saga in and of itself. And they burned books. Yes, they burned the recipe book.
Starting point is 01:24:41 Yeah, they burned the New Cokes or the Pepsi. I don't know. Pepsi Crystal. Yes. All right, just a girl, 329. Once more. Closing out. our Q&A here.
Starting point is 01:24:50 All right. Here's a bit of trivia. In the opening scene with the dancing feet, the feet in the gold shoes was Kenny Loggins. No way. Singer of the title track.
Starting point is 01:24:59 That's very cool. Hell yeah. Yeah, you got to imagine too. I mean, I love little facts like that. I mean, when you're providing so many songs in the film, he's like, hey, we got to have a little kind of cameo for you. I appreciate when they give people,
Starting point is 01:25:16 when they give singers or whomever, little cameos like that, you don't realize it. I think just going off a little off subject right now, just like in Titanic, for instance, when Jack is doing the drawing of Rose, that's James Cameron's hand. So I love little details.
Starting point is 01:25:32 I just forget that he's like an accomplished. Oh, he's such a good artist. Yeah, he's incredible. Also, too, I believe the handprint as well. I think that's his handprint. Not the one that was originally made, but the one that you see later on. I think I heard him just say that in an interview.
Starting point is 01:25:47 But appreciate a little detail. like that. It's so cool. I would have never guess that was Kenny Hawkins' feet, but when I rewatch this film, I will remember that, so appreciate you sharing that with us. Yeah, I got a couple other little trivia facts pull up here from IMDB. Apparently, the scenes where Chris Penn's
Starting point is 01:26:03 character had to learn how to dance were added to the script because Penn really could not dance. Wow. He was convincing. And since they had to teach him, they taught him in terms of what he already knew, apparently, which was wrestling. Awesome. Was that one say the Howard Stern? In 2013,
Starting point is 01:26:19 interview with Howard Stern. Kevin Bacon admitted that he actually has tipped DJs at weddings not to play footloose. He stated that people expect him to dance to the song as he did in the movie. In truth, when he did do some of the, while he did do some of the dancing, there was also a dancing platform. And we mentioned that.
Starting point is 01:26:35 We can tell he's doing some of the choreography and then there's probably a, I was going to say a DJ. Probably a stunt guy doing some of it too as well for him. Well, to have him be just like a low-key gymnast in the background. And to have him, I mean, like, he seemed to have at least thrown down somewhat on at least being able to sell a couple of those basic, you know, routines in camera. Yeah, that makes sense that he would say that at every wedding he has to go to. Because that's probably happened to him right after this film came out within however long a few years after that he, this film became so popular and he started going to weddings.
Starting point is 01:27:10 People were just playing footloose and he's like, yeah. Oh my God, this is happening every wedding I go to. Let me just start tipping the detail. I'm like, please don't play this. In addition to Kenny Loggins, the dancing feat in the opening sequence contained many of the cast and crew. Over 150 pairs of feet were shot.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Loosely based on events that took place in the small rural and extremely religious farming town of Elmore City, Oklahoma in 1978. Dancing had been banned there for nearly 90 years until a group of high school teenagers challenged it. I mean, not cool, but cool that this is based on a true story that's shedding light on it. In the scene where Reverend Schwarzschilder,
Starting point is 01:27:47 shows Wren a picture of his deceased son Bobby. John Lithgow showed a picture of his real. I was wondering, was that an actor? Was that his real son? Cool. Oh my God. Gene Siskel was one of the few critics that liked this movie?
Starting point is 01:28:01 Oh. That's insane. Although he complained parts of the plot are silly. For instance, if the preacher is so strict, why does he let his daughter walk around and with a tight jeans and no bra? But then that's really, but then that's really for us at the audience.
Starting point is 01:28:13 That's funny. Oh, my God. This was incredible. I'm curious what this got on Rotten Tomatoes then if the critics were so strict on this one? All right, give us your guesses before we close it out, Andrew.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Well, if they're so strict, I'm going to go with 71 and then I'm going to go with 92 for the audience. If they're as strict as people are saying right there. All right, I'm going 60 and 98. 71 and 92 for me.
Starting point is 01:28:40 I probably went too high, but we'll see. Let's see. 55. 55 and 71? 71. Oh, my God. We're way off. It's silly, but it's got, like, a lot of conviction and a lot of heart and a lot of, like,
Starting point is 01:28:53 tangible. I don't know. I don't know. Music, I don't know. It heightens everything. On the 55, does it say, like, how many? Or does it not? 47 reviews.
Starting point is 01:29:06 So, you know. Yeah, I mean, obviously, you have a smaller pool from back in the day. But I don't know. I love this movie. I thought this is incredible. And, yeah, I would love to watch more movies like this. love to watch dirty dancing oh i've never seen dirty dancing either i'd love to do flash dance i would love to watch i don't have never seen none of anything gang leave us your thoughts what did you think of
Starting point is 01:29:27 footloose is this one of your favorite movies is it the best movie of all time are you a star lord either way leave us your thoughts leave us your favorite songs to dance too and we'll catch you on the next one be well people

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