The Reel Rejects - Extended Version: WICKED: FOR GOOD (2025) MOVIE REACTION!! Every Day More Wicked | No Good Deed As Long As You're Mine

Episode Date: December 31, 2025

WICKED PART 2 REACTION IS FINALLY HERE!! Wicked: For Good Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: ⁠  / thereelrejects  ⁠ WICKED: Part 1 (2024) Movie Reaction: ⁠   • WICKED (2024) IS B...EAUTIFUL!! MOVIE REACTIO...  ⁠ Gift Someone (Or Yourself) An RR Tee! ⁠https://shorturl.at/hekk2⁠ A year after being dazzled by Wicked: Part One, Greg, Aaron, & Johnald RETURN to Oz for their Wicked: For Good Reaction, Recap, Analysis, Breakdown, & Spoiler Review!! Directed by Jon M. Chu (Crazy Rich Asians, In the Heights), this chapter adapts Act II of the stage musical, carrying the story beyond spectacle into consequence, legacy, and the cost of choosing who you become in the land of Oz. Picking up after the fallout of Part One, the film follows Elphaba (Cynthia Erivo – Harriet, The Color Purple) as she fully embraces her identity as the Wicked Witch, fighting against a system that has turned her into a symbol of fear. Across the divide is Glinda (Ariana Grande – Don’t Look Up, Victorious), now the public face of goodness, forced to reconcile privilege, power, and the painful distance growing between her and her former best friend. Their fractured bond forms the emotional core of the film, culminating in moments that redefine friendship, sacrifice, and how history chooses its heroes and villains. The supporting cast deepens Oz’s moral complexity, with Jonathan Bailey (Bridgerton, Fellow Travelers) as Fiyero, torn between duty, love, and rebellion; Michelle Yeoh (Everything Everywhere All at Once, Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon) as the manipulative Madame Morrible; and Jeff Goldblum (Jurassic Park, Thor: Ragnarok) as The Wizard, whose charm masks devastating political cruelty. Returning roles include Ethan Slater (SpongeBob SquarePants on Broadway) as Boq and Marissa Bode as Nessarose, whose storyline becomes one of the film’s darkest and most consequential threads. Follow Aaron On Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/therealaaronalexander/?hl=en⁠ Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. ⁠https://creativecommons.org/licenses/...⁠ Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! ⁠https://www.rejectnationshop.com/⁠ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/⁠  Tik-Tok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://x.com/reelrejects⁠ Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/⁠ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. ⁠https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/⁠ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. ⁠https://creativecommons.org/licenses/...⁠ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit⁠ https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo⁠ and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en⁠ Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license.⁠ https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/⁠ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO:⁠ https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects⁠ Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  ⁠https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/⁠ INSTAGRAM: ⁠ https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/⁠ TWITTER:  ⁠https://twitter.com/thereelrejects⁠ Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  ⁠https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/⁠ TWITTER:  ⁠https://twitter.com/thegregalba⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh, it's like frozen. Hey, painted horse. Magic. You don't know how to break up, man. Fellow reject of Oz, we are back here for Wicked 2. Wicked for Good. I think Wicked, the first movie reaction, is one of our most successful videos we've ever actually had. So I hope this is at least a close. second.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Views are what it's all about. Same level of cultural phenomena. I'm excited to be here, happy to do the rewatches. It was a great time and now I'm ready to venture back into it with these two gentlemen. Aaron Alexander, how are you feeling, my friend? I'm feeling good. I'm feeling very ready.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I rewatched the first wicked. Literally right before I came into the studio. Like, at the time on the movie ended and I'm like, all right, it's time to go watch the second one. So, yeah, I'm primed and I'm excited. I really love the first one, and I'm happy to be doing it with you guys again. Are you, John?
Starting point is 00:01:04 Likewise, likewise. It's been a day so far, so I'm ready to jump into a fantasy world and also confront the dangers of fascism. But it was really fun for visiting the first one, and I sure as heck hope they can stick the landing here. How are you? I'm good, man, I'm good. I feel like this is the kind of movie I can really use in my life right now.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Her mixed things, and by mixed things, I mean, on YouTube videos. I haven't listened to a review. I haven't even scoured through rotten tomatoes on this. I just know that there's like some type of mixed opinion on it, and I have no idea what that means. We just got to push that to the side and form our own opinion. That's the goal always, just to be honest with ourselves. And we also launched a wicked shirt that we kept forgetting to promote. But look, John's got one. He's not wearing, but it's in pink and it's on the back here. The front is a, what is Aaron? You came up with this design, man.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah, we got the sweets here. the suits here. There's a different suit depending on which version you get. If you get Elfabah on top, then you get Elfabah on top. Then you get her suit. Then you get her suit on the low corner here. So go pick your team. They're both awesome. And yeah, thank you, Joanne for getting this design out so we can do this video. That's right. The only way we can do this video is. Because if we didn't, we wouldn't be here right now. Thank you, Joanne, for drawing. All right, guys, ready to do this? Let's do it. Let's find out what all the hype is about to see if it sticks. The landing. For good! Citizens of all. Citizens of the rejectals. This is the wicked witch of the west to escape.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Wow. She will be eliminated. Like a dragon ball. The wizard's vision for the odds of tomorrow marches on. Oh my God. Lord of the Yellow Bick Road. Yeah Epic
Starting point is 00:03:04 Wow It's fun to Recontactualize the Yellow Bick Road It's something that actually feels kind of messed up Instead of the glorious wonder It will become Yeah less a feat of magic And more a feat of blood, sweat,
Starting point is 00:03:18 tears and tyranny And like Jesus All the awe stamps feel like Corporation stamps And something that feels You know dictatorship like
Starting point is 00:03:28 Oh I made a lot of progress Wow Oh Is that Elfava? Uh-oh Let my people go It's a revolution
Starting point is 00:03:48 Yeah I I like other Not showing her right now Oh Oh, yes. It's a very Zach Snyder shot. Oh.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Oh. Wow. Nice. An opening action scene, huh? Yeah, you get some wirework to kick things off. She's like a dark superhero. This is fascinating. Hey.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I got to pull that hair to the side, girl. Oh Oh, I love the album Wow What an entrance So epic Come my monkeys We have much work to do
Starting point is 00:04:40 Is she going to slide it Yeah She's going to surf it Hell yeah Oh my god She did a shove it It the tone is bonkers
Starting point is 00:04:58 oh him in the sea cool every day the terror bombs all of us is ever on a world wow destroys public property new victims she can't wow
Starting point is 00:05:14 throughout the land she flies defaming a port wizard with a calumnies and lies Oh, that's right. I know this is kind of a point of contention for people. Morrible is supposed to be like a crazy singer. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And they cast Michelle Yo, who does not very much sing. Where will she strike next? I like her you're seeing all like the narrative changes and the media propaganda. All of us will applaud how I save them from the wish. by revealing he's a frog that all that he says is a lie that's when they'll finally be the wizard goodbye ooh i got chills i love the recontextualizing of this how will they end this story dorothy just comes and splashes water oh man Only you just grew the theory
Starting point is 00:06:26 That you can't improve her Give me that ensemble number Good, good Good For good It's funny because you can see how she's morphing into the Glynda From the Wizard of Oz But I still don't see it with Elphaba
Starting point is 00:06:42 No, she's gonna hate dogs by the end of this Man, it is fucking beautiful, damn well yeah just the amount of fanfare and spectacle yeah the thing i love about these movies is they really take advantage of the medium that they're in how much time has passed it's been two days wow whoa
Starting point is 00:07:10 she said it's been like 12 moon cycles or whatever she's a survivor now man Oh man Glinda the good They put up the most happiness But we know you're not This is interesting that we're starting with him here Because last we saw of him
Starting point is 00:07:39 He was writing off and leaving the school Ah Glinda the good Wicked for good Very late to putting that together And someone sent pastries Good for us. Is that nice to my Hubble, please? My hovel?
Starting point is 00:07:56 While we're at it, we really should look in the trademarking the word good. Yes. I mean, I'm goosified. My follicles are screaming. Is it Alphabet? You mean the Wicked Witch? We do not call her Alphabet. Got to stick to the marketing, girl.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Wicked witch attacks growing bolder. The public is on edge. Gosh. You lived everyone's spirits. As only you can. I like how the pedals are actually still falling in the background. What is it? The new mode of transport.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Hey. Your very own vehicular, spherical globule. So like a bubble. Very much like a bubble. Sure. Whatever float to about. Whatever flows to your bubble. It's literally a bubble, yes.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Is that supposed to happen? It's all right. Are you sure? Does that do what I think it does? Tap to bubble. It's fun to see this originated here. Oh, wait. The wizard had it crafted especially for you.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Oh. This Ozness feels it vital that you, as our good witch, also be airborne. So she actually doesn't have magic? Not on Alpha's level anyway. But don't fret over your inability to produce any actual magic. Oh, man. This invention will disguise your deficiency. The bubble's mechanism is cleverly...
Starting point is 00:09:30 Damn, this looks like the mushroom kingdom. He will assume that you are causing it to float through your own witchley power. Witchley power. But don't forget this. Oh, yeah. You need your McGuffin. The one really sells it. African Dabra. Marketing
Starting point is 00:09:52 Synergy, baby. Hey, man. They got a whole course about this. It's like my hero academia. They had the support team rig up the bubble and then they got the marketing team to rig up the look.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Oh. Oh, no, we get her flashbacks. Oh, so this chapter's going to be more hers. Give it a go. Give it a go. Yeah, she's been doing that just a little, that's great. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:10:26 It's beautiful tiling. Oh, yeah. Her voice is deeper than Ariana Grande's. Oh, it's okay. Girl's voice is going to reverse. Man, that'll do. Hey, yeah. Did you make that?
Starting point is 00:10:44 Totally. Of course. Well, you know how I love rainbows? Duh. Oh, wow. Ever since she was little, people just bought into her stuff. Yeah, they have the means to just prop her up, no matter what, her deficiencies. Wow, that's interesting even how more inverted they are.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Because she's pretty and presentable, they want to believe that she's of good. Because Elfabah's not pretty, they want to believe that she's evil. I want to be magical, for real. and everyone loves you believe me that's all you'll ever need oh man
Starting point is 00:11:22 they don't love you for who you are underneath though oh boy love you for the presentation they judge her for the present judge alpha buff for presentation and love her for her presentation exactly oh that's who they are on the inside that makes them a like
Starting point is 00:11:39 well and she got taught to love herself I think she had taught to love the presentation of herself and she was praised well yeah made made to feel like a good thing yeah she grew up to be Latino
Starting point is 00:11:57 it's amazing what magic can do oh boy I wonder if this is going to make watching Wizard of Oz a very negative experience What's a very negative experience? What an interesting What an interesting guard outfit Newly
Starting point is 00:12:34 Newly appointed captain of the Gale Force Uh-oh Of course he is Oh, yes How does it feel Frustrating But I became captain to find her And I will keep on searching
Starting point is 00:12:52 Until I do No No point Being in games Oh Yes I was wondering She looked off by her
Starting point is 00:13:01 The Poth tickets Oh that's right She did say that in the first one He doesn't know we're going to get married The Wizard and I Good catch, her. Couldn't be happier. Right, dear.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Couldn't be happier. Oh. For you. I just keep saying it. Keep affirming it. I'm the number one humble is. Keep saying you both believe it eventually. they really painted her man they're doing her so dirty bro with these designs
Starting point is 00:13:44 oh that's how it starts come on that's course spread that misinformation spread that misinformation campaign yeah they're common enemy Excuse us, just a clock take. I feel like they're going to undo some Wizard of Oz stuff. Yeah. Because she can't die by water.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Do you think I like hearing them say those awful things about her? I hate it. What are we doing? Let's go. Let's just get out of here. I can't. When there are people looking to need to raise their spirits. I operate by approval.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Because you can't resist this. Yeah. That's the truth. Your ego's never been more pumped up. You got to be actually four. good for real good maybe I can't is that so wrong
Starting point is 00:14:40 I mean who could you know who could and I have to find her because if someone else gets there first yeah they might drop a bucket of water on her not enough
Starting point is 00:14:51 to resist the praise oh man you've got to face it she's made her choice you're so far gone you're right Ooh Ooh
Starting point is 00:15:03 If it makes you happy Of course I'll marry you If it makes you happy Damn If it makes you happy I'll marry you I guess Oh We know you're not
Starting point is 00:15:20 Woof Yeah Yeah He's gone to fetch me a freshman Oh That's the sweetest thing I couldn't be happier Oh, it's like frozen trip
Starting point is 00:15:35 Simply couldn't be happier How ironic Because getting your dreams is strange But it seems a little well Complicated Yeah Our bridges you cross you didn't know You cross until you cross
Starting point is 00:16:00 Ooh, who. Oh, God. Do love her voice. I'm going to making it feel live live. Happy is what happens when all your dreams come true. A minor tone. Great lesson. True
Starting point is 00:16:32 The whole The whole The whole The last The last one was about them Achieving their dreams That's not what
Starting point is 00:16:45 they actually wanted the whole time And this song is about Buy more into that lie Woo
Starting point is 00:16:52 Oh The center brick Hey painted horse Magic Haven't seen a painted horse in the wild Oh Ozz was here
Starting point is 00:17:13 paint it in the cloud just like how she did when she was trying to get Dorothy Yeah Our wizard lies No one had time to read it She wants to kill us all Look
Starting point is 00:17:29 No one read it. That's not what I wrote! That's not what I wrote! No, come. Whoa. Definitely embracing a lot more action this time. For sure. All these forest writing sequences, a lot of it does look like Lord of the Rings. Wee!
Starting point is 00:17:58 I wish they were able to be able to... to build slightly more do slightly more location stuff but this is still very dazzling yeah whoa gotcha uh-oh uh-oh oh oh oh oh yeah when did she get the monkeys on her side oh will they reunite in the forest hopefully not all those guys there The interesting gun design. I want to see like a John Wake shootout with these guns. Do a oneer.
Starting point is 00:18:39 No. Come on. We must not rest until we've captained that freaking witch. Is she there? Yeah, he's going to throw him off the trail. I swear, Jonathan Bailey looks so different in this and he does in the Jurassic World movie. Two most successful movies in live. action this year it's the slutty little glasses he doesn't have the
Starting point is 00:19:04 sly little glasses or the five o'clock shadow although I bet he was also making out with all these guys too did no one read the cloud thing oh she raised it too much can't read someone must have seen something yeah Oh, he's playing the long game. This is some memory we didn't see? Or flash forward? It's the most real, tangible-looking sequence of shots so far. They hinted at this scene in the first movie.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, in the beginning, the opening. Oh, the goat's glasses, the professor. Dilliman. Oh, the dad died. Oh, she's governor now? Dang, how much time did pass? What the hell? It's like 12 moon cycles
Starting point is 00:20:01 or whatever she said at the top The animal anti-motility law Animals would need A permit to travel Oh my god I can't wait till that house gets Dropped on your ass People will say she's just like her sister
Starting point is 00:20:19 Ugh You can't let that motivate you So this one's like way more political Yeah all the fantasy gloves are off now And all of the imagery serves to highlight the irony. She didn't even come see me when father died. Only you did that. How could she?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Oh, Bach. Oz only knows how I'd have coats with all of this. Without you. Oz only knows what I'd be without you. I'm still down bad for Glenda, though. And I'm glad I could be there for you. I've been thinking for a while now. But.
Starting point is 00:20:56 That I can walk and you can't. I can't. I just can't ignore it. I see. You don't know how to break up, man. If that's how you feel, I think it's best to be. Now. Damn.
Starting point is 00:21:11 What you gotta do is act cold for a very long time until she leaves you. Really drive her will into the ground. Nessa, won't be the last time to see each other. That wide shot showing the separation and distance between them. I like the natural feeling. light of the scene. Yeah. I do think the lighting is better
Starting point is 00:21:31 than the last one so far. It's a little, there's a lot more shadows and it's sharper. I wonder if they heard the criticism of the last movie decided to punch up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I thought they shot these back to back. Yeah, but they have editing room where you can do that. Oh, fair. Color grading and all sorts of stuff. Excuse me, my train is loading. You're an animal.
Starting point is 00:21:59 All munchkins are forbidden to leave munchkin land without express written permission of the governor. Damn, that's messed up. You just heard, man. And munchkins. She's so petty, it's bifle. She just had them run around and tack those arms. Who are munchkins supposed to be like Romani people? Gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I do really need to let go of the thought process of how this will go into Wizard of Oz because I'm just like not quite grasping how AlphaVo would do that. Well, what you need to know is Wizard of Oz is actually a propaganda piece produced by the Oz Ministry of Entertainment. Oh.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Oh my God. You're going to go under the bridge. Damn, that's crazy. Come to drink. Quickly, we must get out of Oz. Don't do this. Please. Keep moving.
Starting point is 00:22:57 Don't leave us. join with me oh we're going to Narnia and wait for the monkeys to carry us off that's what happens to animals who speak out I never seen again no Oz wouldn't be Oz without all of you what is that animal and I know you're frightened but this is home belongs to all of us here here hey the bear oh haven't seen him since she was like a child right now that's been forever He can't stay here. Actually, they're just called hugs.
Starting point is 00:23:32 There's only one thing left for us to do. Escape. Is that final a Davis? I was just thinking of that. It's got to be. Kansas. I can hear her crying. Whoa,
Starting point is 00:23:47 the sands of time. How will you survive here? No one in Oz will be happy until you're dead. Ding, dong. I wonder if she adopts the role of the villain to protect people. It's a people. Why should a land have so much meaning?
Starting point is 00:24:14 When dark times befalling. Hmm. I love how they were just keeping this so simply shot, too. That's just what we're calling. I like that one. Like. Oh, wow. Her and Dorothy are the same.
Starting point is 00:24:48 There's no place like home. That's pretty good. I'm going to turn that into a spell. We have to unite the leak. Like how she's still so hopeful in spite of everything. Just tell yourself there's no place like home. There's a whole song dedicated to this. When you feel it's not worth fighting for, compel yourself because there's no place like hope.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Oh, that's pretty cool, man. Yeah, like how it's repurposed. It really, really does. Those who would take it from you, Sparveli to sell yourself in... Otters! No place like home. Because when Dorothy sings, it's about returning,
Starting point is 00:25:45 so a place beyond this, but this is about Oz. This is about reclaiming. Exactly, preservation, reclaiming equality. Oh, yeah. Well, and even in the original movie, she's like coming to appreciate her simple farm life
Starting point is 00:26:00 that's a cowardly line I still see that green face oh god yeah this is the baby it's the baby from the beginning or from the other movie yeah catch me from the only home I ever knew
Starting point is 00:26:18 oh you're in a cage oh buddy she's the one who gave the monkey's wings 12 cycles wizard his spies Yeah, I was set up for that They used me And I have to live with that
Starting point is 00:26:31 Hold on, let her cook Don't know you'll keep fighting Because I know you Ogg The irony that I'll probably be the monkeys that rally behind her Out of all the animals Yeah Wing it apes together strong
Starting point is 00:26:49 Thank you, Bach Glad you back Woodman I'm glad you're bach, bach, bach, bach, bach, wood, man. Whatever you say, Madam Governor? I asked you to call me Nessa, remember? Jeez, you want evil, girl? Never mind. I'll call you when I finished.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Give me a pass. I think just keep getting better for this guy. This is great. They didn't have that much screen time in the first movie. so I'm surprised by how much emphasis is on them in the first act of this. You imagine they just established them because they knew they'd have more
Starting point is 00:27:36 in the second one. Oh! It's so good to see you. Why are you here? I've tried to keep you out of all of this, but I need you. Thought you might have come to apologize. Apologize.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Apologize. You're the governor. People will listen to you and together with... Why should I help you? Not once. Have you ever thought you? to use your powers to help me. You never wanted my help.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I do now. Do now. I want to go back to the way we were at school. That night when Kwok told me I was beautiful. We deserved each other. First time I ever wore these shoes. Oz dust. There was music.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I feel that again. The last time. What are you doing? Ambulandare. The fingers. They're turning red. Whoa. They do make it where she can move.
Starting point is 00:28:40 They do make it where she can move. One case of profound elation coming up. He called me Nessa. It's working. Get out of the room. you fuck please don't be afraid alpha but just came to lift my spirit ha ha literally i know now anything is possible for both of us oh the moment when i read don't say don't tell her this
Starting point is 00:29:13 oh boy come on you have to have now she never wanted you brother oh no stop singing in front of her man yes lost my heart to glinton the moment i first saw her would you stop talking she's as wicked as you are keeping me here like a prisoner ugh you're going to lose your heart to me i tell you that's romantic have to what are you going to do it must be a magic spell in here to capture your heart
Starting point is 00:29:51 Jesus. Oh, yeah, free will, man. You don't want to mess with that. You imagine, too? Roll her away. Clatu, the Rada. Uh-oh. Is she going to transform all munchkins?
Starting point is 00:30:11 Is she going to turn him into one of the characters? What are you doing? Oh, no, he's going to be the Tidman. He's the Tidman? He's the Tidman? He needs a heart. And he's dressed in gray. I have to find him to smell.
Starting point is 00:30:24 It's the only thing that might work. Go now. And he's holding this. That magic is... What? That happened so fast. Sorry life has ceased. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:30:42 There really is like different genres in this one. The wicked witch of the east. East. Oh. We deserve each other. Oh, wow. So she just decided to take it on now, huh? Poor thing.
Starting point is 00:31:04 He's sleeping now. He's sleeping now? What about his heart? It's all right. You just need to oil him once in a while. Yeah. Where are you going? We need to begin.
Starting point is 00:31:20 fracking in Oz. All the most influential people in Oz will be there. It's the perfect opportunity to show them all the truth about the wizard. It's probably a lot of like TikTokers and stuff there.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Oz talk. But it's too late. Nessa, I have done everything I could for you. How'd you know that? It hasn't been enough. Nothing ever will be. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Goodbye, Lessa. I'm off to see the wizard. They need me leave. The wickedful Wizard of Oz. The no good, very bad, horrible Wizard of Oz. So she called herself a witch because she's controlling, not because she has powers. It's all right, dearest.
Starting point is 00:31:59 You just. Oh, yes. Let's go monster movie. Oh, man. Boxuo the Iron Man. The reg of the tin man's scary. Oh, fun. Fun.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Oh, and they gave him impossible legs. He could actually use his axe now. what have you done what have you done it wasn't me I tried to stop her dude
Starting point is 00:32:27 bro he was in the room yeah whoa what have you done to me he didn't try to no don't frank
Starting point is 00:32:41 that's a lie you're right there in the room man but who are they gonna believe It's kind of cool I like monster I don't think that was supposed to be funny I don't think so either
Starting point is 00:33:01 It's pretty funny It's the weirdest thing to shout Why would you shout Korn? Korn Korn I'm hearing please
Starting point is 00:33:16 Thank you Classic Something oldish Yes This one isn't as smooth It's like darker and weirder But I have enjoyed this shit out of it It's a very fun medley of tones
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah It's like a little messy and wacky But I've got to be Yeah The Timit thing happened really fast Yeah It's like a body horror movie Of them
Starting point is 00:33:40 The chapter Rejoice of mine And Morris shall shine forever more. Well, I guess the unifying element of tone is just that everything they attempt is like hyper-saturated. Every tone
Starting point is 00:33:55 we committed to. Oh, she's always bringing that spider cracking in the glass. It's just funny how like aggressively they're tying it into Wizard of Oz. Yeah. And this motif, and this motif. And this line? And this line? Who's
Starting point is 00:34:11 a line? Nothing Dorothy did was original to her. Rob, I know you're out here. Just come in before the monkeys spot you. I like how the window cracking was a reference to when they were roommates and she cracked the window. Wow, almost an hour in. They're finally reuniting. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Elfi. Elfi. I think Oz. What's it all about Elfie? How can you just treat her like that when you're actively helping to fight against her? That's so awful. I still can't believe you get around on that all thing. What we can
Starting point is 00:34:46 We'll come and go by bubble What if anyone Discoverates you I know Discoverates All these made up words I'm taking you to see the Wizards
Starting point is 00:34:57 Absolutely not What? No dude This is between the wizard And I Like the song I sang I know how to talk to him And maybe I can help work something out
Starting point is 00:35:06 Nah man You ain't got that much power You're just a symbol Oh well the wizard finally get a song? Dude, it's the monorail song of Oz. You had to sing last time. It's over. Oh, not by half.
Starting point is 00:35:22 You know, you could have just exited normally. Just use the door. It's my wedding day, and you cannot refuse a wedding wish. You can, but it's rude. You are going to admit to her guest that you have no real power. Oh, like hell, he ever would. Can't we start again? Yes, please.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Uh, I would give anything to go back to what time when I realizing how much wish pull. from this movie too or from Wicked I actually believe that you are wonderful Wonderful Wizard of Oz Alliteration
Starting point is 00:35:53 They're never going to stop believing in me You know why Because they don't want to Marketing's too good It looks like the riddler Yeah totally Take it from a wise old
Starting point is 00:36:03 Carnie Once folks buy into your blarney All righty They'll go on believing What they want to Ain't that the truth Yep. Show them exactly what's the score.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Oh, no. Magnets, bitch. More. Sounds eerily relevant to our real world. Whoa. Oh. Huh? Wonderful.
Starting point is 00:36:34 So I said, wonderful. Oh, that's good. I will be wonderful. Yes, this is the exact kind of song. I'm so where we get. the town of green and a wonderful road of yellow
Starting point is 00:36:49 Oz Goldberg machine It's interesting how Glenda and Oz aren't that dissimilar The fact that they both value admiration over the lie They'll begin to trust you You've accomplished so much more
Starting point is 00:37:03 Yeah yeah Yeah from inside the system That's why I've wanted to give the citizens of Oz everything So you like to them No well Um verbally
Starting point is 00:37:15 is not a thing of fact or reason the truth is just what everyone agrees on is an M and M rhyme there's some truth of that we got a whole lot of people who believe all sorts of things that aren't true you know what we call it history uh oh
Starting point is 00:37:34 a rich man Zaki or philanthropist yeah it's all in which leave a is able to purchase wow i said that looks like real magic where'd he sender so we act as though they don't exist i love the eyeballs not my best pupil maha ha ha they call him wonderful into it.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Cannot be? Sell your soul. Come in. Oh. Whoa. Join the brooms. The elder broom. Think of what we can do.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Together. Oh. I wonder if all that stuff in the field and everything is just like an imagination, like a wish. Oh, yeah. That makes sense. Together will be the greatest team there's. there's ever been you could do this on broadway totally the way we planned all the reprisal if we work in tandem
Starting point is 00:38:51 like we cannot wear I just want you to be a sister so bad a celebration throughout us that's all to do with you oh no don't tempt her with a parade as long as you can control narrative, that's all that matters, huh? Wow. That is awesome. Oh, she's
Starting point is 00:39:23 buying in. She's having fun. Oh, I do love an old school. Oh, they're doing the dance. Yeah. It makes you wish it could work. Yeah. God, in the face, love the face.
Starting point is 00:39:45 It could all be so great. Their take on that in this movie is pretty cool. Oh, yeah, her seeing the face reminds her of the lie. You have to see something sinister going on. Do you seek me? No more blaming the animals. And the ones who've left Oz to be free to return without fear. And we also have a 10-man problem.
Starting point is 00:40:08 You're not going to need spies either, so set the monkeys free. and decommission the nukes. Why? Why? Ah. I love her. Can you do it? Done.
Starting point is 00:40:20 We did it. That's how we're going to negotiate, I guess. But obviously, it's too good to be true. I'm so happy. I mean, you guys can all agree to this, but is Maribel going to go along with the plan? Well, and are the animals just going to trust? Like, prove myself? She seems to be the hauncho behind hating her, and they probably
Starting point is 00:40:41 Ganda key it's a key my vinkie for the key aren't you surprised now I was surprised you're surprised I'm locked in here for their own oh for their own safety set my monkey's free I'm over here and do the honors uh because if you put that in in here it'll let him go I don't believe you well you've won but I think we all have What? What? What? Ha, ha, ha, ha, t, ha, ha, ha, t, ha, ha, d.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Nothing can change what's been done to you, what I've done. Yeah, I want to... He's really going to believe in her. Justry, can you speak? Oh, not that, not that cage. Please try. Oh, but tandy circus. Remember.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Whoa, wings are really filled out. Uh, well, something terrible is definitely going to come from that. You and I're going to go down there and greet those fancy folks. I better spruce up. What bullshit are you about to spread? Uh, you seem suss as hell right now. Can't trust a charlatan like that. He always sounds like he's like, oh no, oh no.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Speak to the Carpathian? Oh, shit, there's an opening there. It's Batman's Giant Penny. Oh. That's a very cute asser thing. Even more animals. This guy just loves to lock animals up. Well, he comes from our world.
Starting point is 00:42:34 where animals are equally are locked up god that veil how long is that yeah right it's like 30 feet oh whenever I see those I'm like what if somebody steps on that your head's getting whipped back
Starting point is 00:42:51 brother oh my god the bright and whites descending those stairs while the witch and black is descending the shadow stairs hell the match cutting why does he just keep them in here What the hell? Because it'd be really hard to search this room.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Oh, Professor. Oh, Dilliman. Doctor. He can't talk no more. Oh, damn. Oh, there he is. This is not what it looks like. What is it?
Starting point is 00:43:23 Some animals cannot be trusted. Oh, you sniveler. These sacred vows are to be entered into. he senses it merrily merrily we are married i'm not a bad man i'm just drawn that way was he going to say what was he going to say he once asked me he's a bad wizard
Starting point is 00:43:49 i'm not a bad man i'm a bad wizard that's the quote that is to fight you till the day i die run Hedwick Damn I was going to say How does he escape any of them
Starting point is 00:44:07 Or get past them What is that horrendable sound Wharf It's like chimanji Now how do they do this in the play They hire real animals Yeah they just At least them into the crowd
Starting point is 00:44:29 and eventually they go into the lobby and out to the street this is the work of the wicked witch no who's even listening to you right now oh yeah my man eat her terrapode it is funny because human beings at one point did share the land equally with humans and then we develop tools and consciousness silence witch oh god water lots of it oh my please
Starting point is 00:45:03 oh that was unpleasant uh yeah thank you there one yeah get in
Starting point is 00:45:16 unless you want the guys about that wizard what I do what a bad wizard he is so much more of this movie shot with like a grit as a darkness the hand held so much more dramatized and subdued less fantastical actually kind of lends some credibility to
Starting point is 00:45:35 the imagery this this one feels more like a play what's happening these two traitors not another word yoursness darling have you misplaced your mind misplaced your mind tell you want to marry her box in love with you he's in love with her come on and the wizard is in love with himself i'm going with her what wait what the two of you this all time oh shit i just found out about this go you deserve each other oh no oh not she's gonna be all vengeful yeah all in for the cause now for a while i thought you changed you changed me i have changed
Starting point is 00:46:19 look at this like very real cameraman shot it's crazy it really does help i think like it honestly like this dulls the pain if you want to When you shoot fantastical stuff with angles like a human could get, it makes it feel more tangible. No! No! How could you let this happen? Oh, man. Is Glinda gonna become like a full-on bad guy? Oh, yeah, you see the turn in her eyes.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Oh, man. This is a great shot. Her sister. He's her sister. Oh, jeez. Oh, it's savage. Spread a rumor that her sister's in trouble. She'll fly to her side and you'll have her. I'll feel excuse me.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Oh, now we're cooking. A rumor won't do. If it was too smart, that's right. These things must be done delicately. Ugh. Changing the weather. Because that's her ability. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:23 There's a little parachute. Hot air balloon. I mean. Oh, she's going to. to cause the tornado that brings Dorothy here? Yeah, and then Elphaba immediately turns into a cackling witch. Second she sees that dog, it just turns. I'll get you, my pretty.
Starting point is 00:47:38 The one kind of animal they don't have here, and she's not having it. Just crashes out over her little dog. There's a girl I know. Oh. Wow, and this is the song that Elphaba was singing in the last one, when she thought that he was going with Glenda. I do love that tradition of a big sweeping musical. All the songs that get reprised and recontextualized.
Starting point is 00:48:10 No, these two movies are great about that. I keep using her silhouette of way more. It's the symbol. Dude, this is wicked. In case she forgot her objective, she wrote down Save the Animals. Thanks, I forgot To boil all this down to one simple, easy to remember mantra Oh, damn
Starting point is 00:48:37 So intimate Yo, this is steamy Oh, come on Let's go full erotica just for this one scene Wicked coitus Oh my God, what? on oh let's do it come on oh sir me too fiercely hold me too tight dang of a cut oh whoa wow every last moment last
Starting point is 00:49:28 every last moment last you're beautiful you're beautiful oh the field of my chest it's not lying what is it just looking at things another way oh
Starting point is 00:49:54 through different right eyes. This whole thing is about perspective. Where am I lighter spell? It's after they fail. Oh, man. Ooh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Mm. Where am I, where my lighter at? Ooh. What do people do nowadays? The sofa? Yeah, hold on. Oh, shoot. What a classic shot.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Yeah, beautiful in the frame or in the archway. Oh. Oh, you don't need a broom. Walking on air. Or no, they are probably gliding on the broom. Yeah. Oh, they're floating? No, they just floating.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Holding you. Oh, oh, hell, yeah. Floating on the winds of love. Yeah. We got the kid. Oh, that's a passionate kiss. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Damn. It's probably her first kiss, huh? For the first time, I feel. Like it. Ooh. Wickedly tell it. Bounchika, wow, wow. It's so many of the musical numbers,
Starting point is 00:51:30 they're just shooting it as if, like, they're letting the actors just act. It's kind of like how they did rent those other kind of musicals. Like, the first movie does a lot of editing and choreography and a lot of hyper-styledized camera work. And this one, they're just letting the camera capture them perform. That's very true. I noticed that one of my rewatch this morning.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Well, it's cool, because if you do it back-to-back, you get the tradition in the first half of like big ensemble song and dance and now here yeah it's like really locked in in a way you can't get on stage as much she's do it's the shang chi thing it's tai chi warrior open a sling ring i don't know i was gonna say shangshi's dad's gonna show up and they're gonna fight for a while then they're gonna fall in love She is bringing the tornado. Again, I don't quite know how this is going to tie directly to it sort of fun. It's just like helpful, but it's to completely change, right?
Starting point is 00:52:35 Oh, no. It's going to crush her. But the shoes aren't red at this point. Yeah, they are. Unless it was bad continuity. Oh, my God, Dorothy's flying. We'll find you. I'll be all right.
Starting point is 00:52:49 My family has a causal and chemical. Where do you live? Um, the only cause one. Which other castle? Of course, there's a public I know this tunnel. Secret passageways. A moat.
Starting point is 00:53:03 What? Oh, she hears. She has sister sense. What's wrong? Whoa. Is Dorothy supposed to be in this movie? Yeah. This house.
Starting point is 00:53:19 This is he's actually supposed to be like a character or something? I think, yeah I think that all does factor in I think it's just like it's all going to be kind of fun house mirrored to what you're I mean Dorothy was in the first one Oh Wow
Starting point is 00:53:34 I'm coming here I'm coming here It's too dangerous Dude she's tapped into the wizard's hive mind How about we Are going to be together Always You can see how
Starting point is 00:53:51 Oh, shit. Are you dead in this movie? Oh, no. This gay man has incredible chemistry with these lead actresses. Yeah, yes, he does. No wonder, they all make it out on the press tour. Imagine if James Cameron made this movie. Well, in the novel, Oz is a real place.
Starting point is 00:54:17 So I wonder if they're going to somewhat tie it more from the novel. that's very possible remember when tin bach was in this movie dude tin bach he's coming back oh we reject this place wow
Starting point is 00:54:36 oh my god that's real flowers that is gorgeous holy crap oh oh no oh no dorthina it looks like
Starting point is 00:54:47 the one house looks like a mural outside of a haunted house attraction. Bye, Darcy. Bye, dodo. Oh, dodo. Just saying. Choice is yours.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Don't be late. I imagine no one to saw Wizard of Oz would be really confused as to what just happened. Just like that. Just straight a murder hurt for this.
Starting point is 00:55:09 It's kind of weird. She's. Man, shoes. I would appreciate a moment to say goodbye to my sister. Is I remembering it correctly? I thought the witch showed up at one point. She did.
Starting point is 00:55:28 She showed up and was like, I'll get you. Yeah. She like fucked off and left. Yeah. I think that would probably be how a lot of this factors in it's like it's not probably 100% what you remember from the wizard movie. Forgive me. Oh, Alpha, but don't bring yourself, please.
Starting point is 00:55:47 So they're rewriting the Wizard of Oz. Because it's all like what really happened. Accidents will happen Accidents will happen What an accident You call that an accident I think this is hot fuzz And how dare you send that muleish farm girl
Starting point is 00:56:03 Off to see the wizard She's lost, she's far from home She took a dead woman's shoes Oh I'm a public figure now People expect me to fly There's a public figure Those shoes are all I have left with my sister
Starting point is 00:56:14 They weren't yours to give Damn Seems a lot of us are taking things That don't belong to us now aren't we Oh wow. Now's the time to talk about this. Go, my man. Oh, sad.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Someone like him. Someone like me. You literally can't. He doesn't love you. Wow. Oh my God. That felt kind of good. Feel better.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I do. Oh, shit. Get up. You don't have a slap off? Just keep going. Close fists. Oh, what about to fight? Fight scene.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Wizard fight. Oh, wow. This is fascinating. This is so funny. Glenda, one of you ever lifted a finger to do anything in your life? Oh, wow. Reloge your arms like Henry Cavill. The laugh.
Starting point is 00:57:13 The cackle. Where'd you get that? What is this movie? The frame racing too. This is so funny. Oh my God. Hell yeah. This is a trip.
Starting point is 00:57:30 This is so wacky. Dumb gum gum gum gum. Oh, the name of the wizard. I almost had it. I almost matter. I almost matter. Such a strange scene. strange choices in this movie
Starting point is 00:57:50 I never meant to get this far let the green girl go what is happening how the wizard's guards watch while Galinda the good was slain whoa does it actually shoot bullets
Starting point is 00:58:07 shoots bubbles doing a whole lot of point and no firing go fly you fool that's why they got all damn see they found every box and checked it I wish they had like an actual scene when Nessa dying or something yeah it's kind of like cut to really strangely she's not even like sad about it oh for a second I was going to point it
Starting point is 00:58:45 himself. He wasn't going to harm me. He loves me too much. He loves her. I'm so sorry. Aw. Is he going to be the scare crew? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:59 That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. If he only had a brain, you know. Oh, damn. Okay. Also, I forgot that Jonathan Bailey was wearing contacts in this movie. Oh, sure. Yeah, he has, like, brown eyes.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Whoa, what a castle. We were defying gravity again. That is an insane location. This whole castle defying gravity. The brain. Spit. Let his flesh not be torn, but his blood leave no stain. She turned him into a scarecrow to save him.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Whoa. Let him never die Oh wow Damn I don't even know What I'm reading I don't even know What churik I ought to try
Starting point is 00:59:55 Oh One more disaster I can act Right Superman Oh yeah My road of good intentions led where such roads
Starting point is 01:00:12 Always need I did not know any specifics at all. I don't even know that like Scarecrow and all that would be in this, but I totally get why some people were, this is such a, there's a strange choice in this movie. This feels like
Starting point is 01:00:27 it should have been three movies. Yeah, this is really strange. It's some of weird choices, yeah. Instead of bisecting it at the intermission, which is not a bad idea, it's almost like you should do act by act as a movie. It suddenly became the Wizard of Oz pure prequel
Starting point is 01:00:43 movie. Was I really Oh, no, you were singing good. You were singing to prove yourself. Maybe that's the reason why. It's not so black and white. Wow. Where are we? What's well meant to?
Starting point is 01:01:11 Woo. Let's get some. some heavy metal growls in these vocals i'll be the witch you want me to be It's actually just a recording of his own jazz show. You have visitors, a girl from the land of Kansas, and three friends she picked up along the way. Oh, good. They all want something they don't have.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I'm not seeing anybody. Are they going to deep fake Judy Garland? I hope so. I think we've gone so far. You might as well. They probably will. Nice. Do it.
Starting point is 01:02:14 It's time to play. Will they do? do a lookalike or is it such a strange deep faker i don't care do it you cowards bring me the room no they're not going to show it so i have proof that she's dead they're not going to show her face they made the cowardly line an actual line this is interesting that they didn't even anthropomorphize him yeah a little bit unless they're going to transform them somehow but for the Oz continuity it would already be though
Starting point is 01:02:50 I was gonna say it's weird how it really depends on you knowing the Wizard of Oz but also changing things that you know about the Wizard of Oz I guess this stuff would still play if you don't know the main thing
Starting point is 01:03:04 that's off is the house falling on Nessa and the witch not being there no a lot of the and not a lot of doesn't really work like this movie's saying bach the tin man and the lion really know who elphabah is at not one point in the journey do they provide any of this context or anything
Starting point is 01:03:26 yeah and it also kind of flies in the face of them being these people dorothy knows from kansas yeah it's due to her i made of tin her spell may disappear so for once i'm glad i'm heartless I'll be hardless killing her Wow Wow It's super traumatic performance from Tell him Tell them what she did to you
Starting point is 01:03:49 How you were just a cub And she cobb Not true A very different performance Yeah totally different guy But the tin man I mean but the scarecrow knows If she let him fight his own battles
Starting point is 01:04:03 When he was young He wouldn't be a coward Today The scarecrow is literally the one that brought lying to safety but they but they removed the brain oh yeah the wizard of Oz is revisionist history
Starting point is 01:04:16 that's crazy how they're like kind of taking a stab the classic movie instead of honoring she was in the play did it years ago is this accurate I mean
Starting point is 01:04:32 it's bold choice man the whole point I think of of the book we can the show and all that stuff is yet is to take it and do that sort of like ooh what was yeah the real history of Oz but it seems like they're actually not re contextualizing for a different perspective soon that they're straight up rewriting shit yeah that's required to live in a tree hey that's cool I think this movie's telling us to look at herself.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Yeah, from all angles. Amazing. That was cool. That was a cool labyrinth of a shot. Oh, I like this classic-y kind of. like crane shot they're going for while in the mirrors how do they do that that's a hell of a sequence
Starting point is 01:05:49 the layers upon layers here well it's funny because you know where like cuts are happening and stitches are happening but it actually like kind of alleviates even having to think about that oh little girl her just like when alpha was falling in the finale and saw little girl her man and we have got to stop this it's gone too far I think alpha can take care of her soul
Starting point is 01:06:09 She hates her more than anybody Yeah Something has been troubling me About Nessa, that cyclone Uh-oh, she moves her body like a cyclone Because she moves her body like a cyclone I suppose it was just her time What? That's a crazy cope
Starting point is 01:06:28 Yeah Where did you do that? You listened to me Did she know the tornado would open up some other dimension? You may be fooling the rest of Oz You wanted this from the beginning, Garlanda. Galinda. You're getting what you wanted.
Starting point is 01:06:45 So just do what you do best. Smile. And God, the fact that she got her updated name from Delamond and has worn it all this time. I thought Madame Morrible works at the school. She did, but... You know, it's really more of a figurehead symbolic role now. Yeah, and I just started working. more directly with Oz once all the Alphabet stuff happened.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Oh, combat boots, Glinda. Oh, goth, Glinda. Oh, steal yourself into the night. Oh, Black Riding Hood. Oh, that was her at the beginning of one. Dang. Remember at the beginning of one, you see someone on horseback riding? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Oh, my mind is blown. That's crazy. Nice. That's nuts Nice You guys are still singing I haven't seen this whole time When do they not sing?
Starting point is 01:07:47 Still singing to the same crafts Gotta go to that witch I think it's interesting We haven't seen a close-up of the scarecrow yet Even though he's with them Let's get Some shoes I just having a hard time
Starting point is 01:08:07 fully buying this switch. There it is. Oh my God. P-O-V. We are the Dorothy Deepfake. Let the little girl go. Go away. You can't go on like this. I could do whatever I want.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah. I'm the wicked witch of the West. Yehaw. She's just hurting. Most her man and her sister in the same day. It's like all the information's there for the switch. There's something, though, about when it happened. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:08:38 it was a little... It feels weird after like three hours feel like, it's good of a sudden. It's weird because the first movie added stuff
Starting point is 01:08:47 to flesh it out for the adaptation. This feels like it either cut stuff or just left it the same. Yeah, I think in the film medium you have to.
Starting point is 01:08:55 You've seen his face for the last time. Oh, no. You're not able to like reverse this shit? They said again that Grimuthy in the book,
Starting point is 01:09:03 you can't reverse anything. You're right. It's time. I surrender. Ooh. But don't give yourself away. Water. You can't be found here with me.
Starting point is 01:09:16 You must go. I'll go and I'll tell everyone the truth about you. That you're not who they say you are. No, you can't. But just turn against you. I don't care. Well, I do. Oh.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I need you to promise that you won't try to clear my name. No. Why would I do that? I'll tell them everything. Please. I'll tell them you're not who they say you are. I just want you to listen for a minute. Just promise me.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Oh. Why would you ask me to promise that? I guess the idea is that like Because they need someone to be wicked Yeah So you can be good Damn The idea is that this is like
Starting point is 01:09:44 Glinda's perspective This entire story Yeah Oh I'm limited Huh I'm limited Aw
Starting point is 01:09:57 You can do Oh Jesus This is about Glinda Actually becoming good are you going to give her actual powers with the book oh
Starting point is 01:10:10 you know I can't read this oh you have to learn damn he has to change things because now it's up to you you you're the only friend I ever had and I've had so many friends
Starting point is 01:10:31 nice callback Classic. Aww. I've heard it said that people come into our lives. Mm. Well, I don't know if I believe that's true. You can say if I've been changed by the better, but because I knew you.
Starting point is 01:10:58 She's really singing to her. A lot more of the singing in this is more dialogue driven, too. I have been changed for good there it is I know you have rewritten mind by being my friend so sweet
Starting point is 01:11:19 I have been changed forgiveness I always love when they do this yeah they are terrific these two are terrifically cast i understand they're really friends it seems like they're they went through like a spiritual journey through this that's so sweet so she like sacrificed herself this flat out said it oh what a great shot Oh, that's really sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Uh-oh. It's like Dorothy's bed. Oh, the shadow thing is interesting. Seeing her from Glendez's perspective. And they're turning Dorothy into someone who directly just throws it on her as an attack. Yeah, man. There's another movie happening alongside this one where Dorothy is like a bad. It's like Snow White and the Huntsman, but with a girl and a little picnic blanket dress.
Starting point is 01:12:43 I mean, it does make more sense that she sacrificed herself rather than just submit to being thrown a buckle of water on her. Yeah. Well, in the movie, it was an accident. It wasn't this. This is why Dorothy is a revolutionary. It's like, here, I'm going to throw his bucket on you. I don't murder your shit right now. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:13:06 And then she holds Elfabah's head up. What's left of it anyway. Just the hat. It's kind of like watchmen, you know? You give them a symbol to ever unite the world against. So Alphaba is allergic to water. We'll never get to see Fierre Crow. How did Alpha develop this?
Starting point is 01:13:25 Did they establish that? Oh, the bottles under the hat. You see that? I was going to say, or did she? she just make it appear that way so she could slip away. I don't think she's actually dead. She can be free now.
Starting point is 01:13:39 I think that's why the beginning of the movie showed this to make you think she's dead, but I don't think she's actually dead. Yeah. I'm going to speak. You could speak. Chase the green fairy. Her mom is vile.
Starting point is 01:13:59 She's dead You have a broomstick No I do something else That belonged to her It was a keepsake It belonged to her mother Oh he was the one who slept
Starting point is 01:14:08 He's the father Yeah Gotta be Mystery Solved Yeah It's such a mystery They did not show this on Spotify
Starting point is 01:14:22 And his name listed In the credits of the songs Oh no Oh really? Oh We got a little D8 and going up whoa that is that looks great his mouth looked to me that's why she had such power she was a child of both worlds oh she's a Nephilim oh that's what you do
Starting point is 01:14:47 man do some smoking mirrors dog and pony show excuse me what what do you want look look out your window come on don't want to miss this the wizard is taking a permanent leave of absence pack your bags because we're leaving on a permanent vacation yeah the kind that is true the kind that doesn't care about your feelings no cap rich coming from you but just think madam so many cages and all recently vacated
Starting point is 01:15:29 you'll have your pick yeah I mean my personal opinion is you do not have what it takes I hope you prove me wrong I doubt you will
Starting point is 01:15:39 yeah joke on the words she is charged baby now drop her yeah now she's now she's going to for good go back to
Starting point is 01:15:55 the beginning it is my gift it is my curse i am good now i'm about to do some righteous fucking bubbling wow yellow brick road hey munchkin land wow you did a good good acting job there glinda Linda, is it true you were her friend? Sorry, one second. Is it true you were her friend? Yes. I mean,
Starting point is 01:16:37 I did know her. Our paths did cross. Oh, book ended up with the same scene. Mm-hmm. At school. And oh, and then the movie loops and it just starts all over again.
Starting point is 01:16:49 It's like a TikTok. Wait. Oh? Yes. I have something. Oh, that's cool. Here's the six minutes of anime we finally had the budget to complete. Aw.
Starting point is 01:17:04 All Ozians. Who's the animals? Oh, snap. We have been through a frightening time. And there will be other times and other things that brighten us. But if you let me, I'd like to try to help. Oh. To change things.
Starting point is 01:17:21 We're good. That's the spirit. I'd like to try to be. Glinda, the good. Yeah, we already called to that, but yeah, I feel you. But you've earned it now. You earned it. You know, now we know you earned it.
Starting point is 01:17:35 It's different now, yeah. The path to true liberation. I wonder if it would have been a major detriment to just like the ecosystem of Oz if all the animals just, like, remained gone. That the scarecrow. Oh, yeah, box, bach. What? I think you'll bet.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Yeah. That's right, because the air would be straw now. Whoa. Oh. Good as new. If I only had a brain. I really about to tell you about Dorothy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:24 They escaped. Oh, get your hat. They have it behind. Our work here is done. So you guys planned that together? I guess. Yeah, they had time to discuss the I'm going to have the trap open.
Starting point is 01:18:40 They planned it while. Remind me again. How do I open the thing once you're in it? What do I got to get there? You love both lovers. You put up the key down there. I wish the Glinda could know we're alive. Oh.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I know she can't. No one can ever know. Aw. Where were you run off to? Ah, it was them at the end. Or during that one part. And the sands of time. Into the unknown.
Starting point is 01:19:14 For the first time in forever. I can't see it was at a mom's the same. I know. Scarecrow and the witch hooked up. Frigin Dorothy just savagely murdered the witch. because i hear you my gorgeous voices yeah truly oh lock your power get her some powers this is your reward for goodness rewards the good too.
Starting point is 01:19:56 Yaw sucks. They keep changing something of the war. Oh, it's the poster. Yeah. It's the poster. Yeah. Damn, John Chu.
Starting point is 01:20:09 All right. All right. Screenplayed by Winnie Holsman and Winnie Holzman. I do so much work of this script. I clone myself.
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Starting point is 01:22:18 A thing entertained is not an emotion, but I guess catharsis with a slight feeling of underwhelmed, but still entertain nonetheless. I think that this one had a big task of honoring the emotional journeys of what they established in the first movie, but also honoring things established with what we know Wizard of Oz to be. And I feel like because this is an adaptation that wants to be faithful, or I don't know how faithful it is, I imagine it's pretty faithful as far as the songs go, but want to do that story justice. I feel like some of the other elements that were on within this story were sort of undercut because it was trying to do stuff that we knew in Wizard of Oz. Like, for example, the sister dying. I feel like that could have been a bigger moment but because we have to do this classic thing
Starting point is 01:23:19 that we know is associated with Wizard of Oz we don't have time to let those things breathe and just the journey of how certain things move. I think that it didn't pull me to the same emotional degree that the first one did but I was still aware that this was something that was emotional and felt the connection in the performance is on the screen.
Starting point is 01:23:43 So overall, I'll say, I liked it. I wasn't in love with it like it was the first one, but I did like it a lot. Yeah, I would kind of echo that sentiment. It's like the first movie benefit or the first half benefits from being more breathable and having more of like a focused coming of age and, you know, establishment of a sort of found family and there's so much hope and potential. And I feel like just, I don't know, that walk of life and that journey for especially Glendon, alpha buzz is it's more tangible and because it's more of the focus because we have to set up all
Starting point is 01:24:20 of the kind of wonder of the world and all of the status quo before we start tearing them down and then also recontextualizing stuff from the original movie yeah this one just felt more packed with plot elements it's like they're both kind of jam-packed and sweeping and big and epic in ways but this one felt like it was trying to squeeze i think one of you said it during the reaction it's like the first one Aaron I think you said like they added stuff and they expanded stuff and you can feel that and in this
Starting point is 01:24:49 one yeah it certainly felt like they were trying to squeeze everything yeah because even the stuff with the 10 men felt like a little rushed and kind of unsatisfying I was like oh okay we did this and oh it's over and then we see them later in the movie you're like okay
Starting point is 01:25:05 I don't know it's very enjoy it like it's very fun there's a lot of like I was appreciating stuff constantly oh yeah but yeah not as much of a coherent movie and it kept me from maybe feeling some of the resolution emotions as deeply as you might want and i feel like in the first half i did towards the end of especially the kind of emotional crescendos of like oh defying gravity and all sorts of stuff like i feel like i maybe got a little bit more of the emotional potency the first half around but uh there's lots to appreciate here though i just just hit me that thomas godolk in his buck from yeah i was like why do i know this guy i was like yeah of course but how did you feel sir uh it was okay
Starting point is 01:25:48 yeah i i was i was very very entertained uh by it i think even when it's like the movie hovers is being like really good really effective a lot of really cool cinematic choices the soundtrack is of course amazing the scene is of course incredible all the elements of technical precision. I even think the way how some of the cinematography was done
Starting point is 01:26:15 was even sharper than before. Oftentimes, when you're watching videos on YouTube, especially about like, what do all movies look flat? And the same. Wicked is often thrown in there as one of those films where, like, they get a bolstrous production design with a lot of colors and everyone on set is going to town
Starting point is 01:26:32 on bringing a world to life. And then for some reason, when they do lighting, it just doesn't really hit. And I think they took that to heart here and made improvements on it in post and i like that this one wanted it to feel a little bit more intimate and focus on like a lot of the songs a lot of the numbers are just them using the camera like there's very few hyper stylized singing sequences you know when when alpha is deciding to change in and adopt the role of the which they all believe her to be that's a really
Starting point is 01:27:06 hyper stylized solo act. The Glinda mirror scene does a lot of cool camera work but even that's like rather simple outside of the transitions. It's still in her face. Yeah, the transition. Everything that's how a lot of the main music
Starting point is 01:27:22 numbers are. It's just camera lingers and lets actors sing. So this felt more like a play and that sometimes works to its benefit and other times I feel like it works against. I think like the obvious defense for
Starting point is 01:27:38 like wicked diehards. I don't know what is accurate to play or book because I know there's a book first and there's a play. I don't know what's accurate. But even if it's, even if this is 100% accurate it doesn't mean it 100% translates well. Like a lot of people use that as an excuse. People
Starting point is 01:27:54 might say that for us when it comes to like comic book movies or something. I'm like, yeah, just because it's like that in the comics doesn't mean it's going to like work well in the movies. And I would say the same thing here. At the end of the day, Wizard of Oz is a movie that was propelled by the the story was propelled by the cinema you know there's the book and then the book and the movie changes a lot and then but the movies the main thing so i found myself
Starting point is 01:28:21 kind of at odds going like okay are they kind of adapting like the the book of wizard of Oz but this is clearly like the movie wizard of Oz you know and everything they're referencing like this didn't happen in the book like that happened in the movie there is so it's like picking and choosing and it clearly wants to tie into that. And to me, this felt more like a typical film that suffers from tie-ins, that suffers from prequel explanations. Things I just didn't actually care for. I didn't expect to see the Tin Man origin.
Starting point is 01:28:56 I didn't expect any of this or want any of this. And by doing, like, I think the Tin Man is actually the biggest sin of the mom because when they do the tin man I was actually kind of I was okay with he's not playing it like you know a gay guy or whatever the fuck he's not playing it yes
Starting point is 01:29:16 he's like totally different the gayness he's not playing it like how he was in the movie and he's playing totally different and I'm like okay I can get on board for that this is a little weird but in a way that I'm enjoying and taking like the horror approach he's like fucking aggressive he's like lion get it here to speak up
Starting point is 01:29:32 god damn it She kidnapped you. But then there's no payoff to his character. Like, they go through all that, but they don't do any catharsis with the character. There's no emotional arc with the character. There's none of that. Nessa, they're doing the same thing
Starting point is 01:29:49 because they want to tie it into Wizard of Oz and the house falls on her. It's like, well, what did her? She became kind of a political person. It's like kind of a bad political person, you know? Yeah. Like, I did it and say, I'm the wicked witch of, I'll be the East. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:04 But she didn't say that to anybody. I imagine most people would be like, isn't that the governor? Yeah. That's what I mean. No, you're right. I'll still be the governor. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And then it becomes jarring when you're like,
Starting point is 01:30:19 but you're clearly wanting this to be the companion piece to the movie, yet you're cutting stuff out from the movie and you're rewriting stuff from the movie as well, you know? So it just makes it a little, because they're clearly tying it into what the movie is. not the book because there's so many things that didn't happen in the movie that in the book that the movie did so you know like it it would pull me out and and i couldn't get as emotionally swept up in it and so in like the last half hour it was kind of detracting for me like i really wanted to so many scenes i could appreciate like when they're when they're singing you know alpha and glinda and the for good thing but a lot of it felt unlike the last movie which i
Starting point is 01:31:04 think is a pretty near perfect musical. And maybe this is a one-to-one adaptation of the musical, but it's not the same when you're watching film, you know, when you're watching, when you skip past shit and a Broadway play, it's a totally different thing. You're watching like set changes and shit happening. The way you view it is totally different than how you're viewing this. Well, and stuff can be explained offstage in a different way than you could in a movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Because you know we can't see certain stuff. Yeah, and, you know, like the Scarecrow tie-in like that, it felt like prequel rush stuff, you know, where they're like, we got to, imagine there was no wicked one. This felt like that or they're like, like, we got to tie this and now. We got to like, we got to explain this now. We got to explain this. And it's like there's no real buildup to him becoming this scarecrow. There's nothing thematic about it. It's like, we got to just fucking do it.
Starting point is 01:31:55 You know, like, the little little Frankenstein monster book, you know, scarecrow, you know, there's nothing really there to justify it in a way that feels reward. You do all this stuff with Nessa, but it seems like Alphabet doesn't even really give a shit about what happened. Yeah, she didn't even cry for his sister. She felt like a pretty big afterthought in this movie. Then it becomes like a weird fight scene with them, you know? So, yeah, like I... Increased frame rate. It was, it's weird.
Starting point is 01:32:23 They didn't, yeah, I don't, it's, I think when you're going to do that in a context like this, yeah, you need to, like, flatter the fact that we all know or many people are going to come in knowing the source material and expecting something like that or you're playing with people's associations and it's a classic enough that people probably have deep and strong associations so i feel like if you're going to do at least what is trying to happen in the context of this movie uh yeah it's like i would have fleshed those elements out or made them feel more meaningful because so much of that feels like they make a point of having it be like oh it's just out there it's it's it's off screen and some of it yeah it's like I agree. I would have liked to have seen it
Starting point is 01:33:06 in a different way because it's like with Nessa, not getting to see her death slights the characters of this movie. Not seeing Dorothy transported through the tornado or whatever. Like that's kind of fine. But like if we're going to kill a super significant character
Starting point is 01:33:22 who is at a huge part in Elfabah's growth and her or like the whole story of Elvaba is also tied up in Nessa. Like this should be super important. And it's also recontextualized. something from the Wizard of Oz and so it's like I would have actually it's the problem they're trying to do so much that I feel like that's the easiest
Starting point is 01:33:41 stuff to go well people already know that so we can take it out and count on people knowing it but I think as a movie experience it does hurt it and then it leaves you to us to sit here and go okay wait a minute so how literally should we be taking the rules and the events of the Wizard of Oz or is this also an alt version of the Wizard of Oz movie except it's got all the same iconography and it seems like it wants to pretend like these two pieces or these two stories click together somehow in a way where you could look at them all and go
Starting point is 01:34:11 it all makes sense it's supposed to be that companion piece where you go wow now I view that scene different but I'm like but you just did a different scene though like you didn't you didn't the fact that you remove alpha but going and confronting Dorothy when every little thing that's happening with the Wizard of Oz is all off screen shit and it completely relies on you
Starting point is 01:34:33 the audience member remembering the film and then going but it's not the way the film is it's a weird thing and yeah the thing is the movie like if you're in this position you either need to make it clear to us that we
Starting point is 01:34:49 are trying to make this compatible with the original or you need to make it clear to us that this will look familiar and behave differently and they don't really do either or say it like Dorothy was telling the story in the first one or the wizard this is how the wizard told the story here's what really but here's how that story actually happened like say some fucking line in there then it's like okay that clears up a lot which feels like which it it feels like they got part way like that was the vibe i was getting was sort of like okay so it is loosely again it's that like revisionist history thing like i was joking about that but i honestly believe that's the message of the movie wants us to take i think so yeah is yeah like the wizard of oz you know is the cleaned up propaganda version of what actually happened but the problem is this move these movies and
Starting point is 01:35:33 I almost would have been okay if they got rid of that. I would have been okay with it. Because then it could be about everything happening with these characters or you need to go the opposite way and make Dorothy and the gang way more integrated into this movie. Yeah, I would have preferred if they had established. Like, look, this is not the same universe as the other Wizard of Oz, you know. This is its own thing. And by doing that, allow these stories and these characters that we got to know in the first movie
Starting point is 01:35:59 to be fleshed out in a satisfying way. Because it is trying to be fan servicey. while also trying to satisfy its plot beats, but not in a way that feels organic or emotionally resident. Yeah, no, I agree. Because it's not so much about, I think with the big misconception that I think people might get from what we're saying
Starting point is 01:36:15 is that because it's not 100% accurate to the Wizard of Oz, that that is the problem. The problem is that... I don't care about that. The problem is that they have these interruptions in the movie that make you, as the audience, have to work your brain really quick
Starting point is 01:36:33 to go okay this scene that happened but then there's no real meets there's no exploration of the scene it's like some very significant plot point happened but we don't get to experience it so we're just skipping to shit we're just skipping to the next moment after it and that's the move the first movie does not do that they don't skip past stuff that's the whole point of sitting in a scene so that way you can feel the experience not just get information to provide you for somebody we kept jumping through time all of a sudden. So I feel like the last half is much weaker than the first half because of that. Like the first half, even when it was like kind of odd and weird and and quirky and dark, but like I don't know totally what's going on here sometimes, but I'm having a great time.
Starting point is 01:37:18 It was the last half where I'm like, now I'm just watching shit just be like hitting quotas and hitting check marks. And I know what beats we got to get to and I know some of them aren't going to happen for a while. It's also becoming an emotional experience for me. Yeah, and it's interesting because I feel like this movie, too, like, granted, we're coming out of the first part, so everything is established. But I think even if you are going to do, if there's a chapter break in there are two movies, I think you do have to do something to gracefully reestablish your ensemble because everybody, you know, in this movie is people we met in the last movie and, you know, know, know, and have the association with. But if you hadn't, I feel like this still has, like, kind of an onus to stand on its own. and it just felt way more scattered the way the ensemble was captured.
Starting point is 01:38:07 It's like you sort of have, you've got Alpha, Elfa and Glinda at the center of everything. And, you know, all the players are placed in a way that makes sense to the stakes, but like, you know, Madame Morrible was like way more of an anonymous character to me in this one than the last one.
Starting point is 01:38:23 And like Jeff Goldblum felt kind of like a special appearance by, whereas in the previous one, he doesn't have like a ton more screen time even, but he feels like a very, significant and pointed inclusion and obviously he is here he's as strong i liked his moments here but i feel like the general ensemble bach even everything with fiero and and uh in glinda getting married there's so much stuff that feels like again because it's so crammed you don't get to actually breathe with the new status quo post time jump yeah and to really sink into the stakes again
Starting point is 01:38:55 because even though we leave off part one with a knowledge of stakes to come we still need to reestablish that stuff emotionally so we can carry that feeling through the movie yeah also i want to clarify something i said earlier i didn't get the fact that the wizard was our father spoiled for me like i read it like i was listening to the music and then i saw who was in the the cast for the song and jeff goblum was in it i was like i don't remember him in this part of the movie uh to one plus one equals two oh i was like oh okay but uh i like that reveal though yeah that's a cool twist me yeah makes a lot of sense probably would have been stronger it's like they actually you know but it had a plot thing other than effects yeah again if they were doing doing something for the
Starting point is 01:39:42 adaptation maybe reveal that a little earlier like maybe that's something that's another yeah another character knows but it's just a strange thing but because it has to be tied to the wizard of oz you know you have this thing where elphaba has this beef with the wizard directly and that was his whole involvement with Oz gets resolved in another character story yeah that she has really nothing to do with other than kidnapping her it was it yeah it just it's odd it's odd experience but performances are strong and it's still very entertaining that's the thing that's what it keeps coming back to yeah that it's but there's i don't i guess the positive strengths of it are not fully outshining the things that i'm very much uh pulled to the side on of
Starting point is 01:40:29 what I found problematic about the experience, you know? Like the problematic thing is the thing I'm like, I really have to talk about that. Yeah, it just limbs over. And two, the way these movies are visually constructed, I feel like in a movie, as a viewer myself,
Starting point is 01:40:48 in a movie like this and with the first half to compare it to, like this is, you know, doing a lot of top of the line cinematic technique, but it is very reliant on computers and digital effects and stuff like that. And I feel like in a more breathable movie, I can better sink into and kind of adapt my brink, habituate to the look of everything slightly better than I can
Starting point is 01:41:12 in an experience with like this that feels a bit more jagged and now certain places feel tangible and other places feel very synthetic. And, you know, there's not as much unifying character tone to make me forget about that. And like, there's, I'm torn on these movies visually because I think the imagination is great and it is in the spirit of the iconography of the original Wizard of Oz movie but I still find myself wishing that they had been in a position
Starting point is 01:41:40 to employ slightly more movie magic in bringing these sets and things to actual life there are a lot of times where I am aware in the back of my mind I'm like this is a volume not much in this frame is real and I like the concept of it but Oz being one of the earliest feats of movie magic done
Starting point is 01:41:59 in the camera I feel like there's a mantle that you thrust upon these movies to do that and there is some of that but it is a world that never really feels real to me yeah you want more like more technicaler like how the first one was or how the ROG tangibility I don't know I don't know it's hard
Starting point is 01:42:15 to describe it's CGI anything and I mean they they had like you know they had to rely on trick reinforced perspectives and mat paintings all sorts of stuff they might not fly now and it might be a pipe dream to say that but there are choices in how you could realize these things
Starting point is 01:42:31 that aren't so volume me all the time well I mean yeah they they explore significantly more here than they do in the Wizard of Odds so they have to like do that but there's not much blending
Starting point is 01:42:46 yeah like you know it looks like they had a real brick for the for the bricks yes yeah like a computer brick like they had a real brick yeah yeah I do like some of the visual stuff they do towards the beginning of the movie, like how they're showing Elphaba from the people who are laying the Brick's perspective.
Starting point is 01:43:06 She does seem like this mysterious other thing that's not human like they are. And I feel like the way that they capture her and what she's doing really makes her, yeah, it makes her feel super. And I appreciate it that because, yeah, from us, the audience's perspective, we get to see, oh, okay, she's finally in her element. From their perspective, like, this chick is scary. She's messing up our shit. What's going on?
Starting point is 01:43:27 So I appreciated that, and I also did like the overarching story about this was more of, the first one was Elphabha's journey, and then the second one is Glenda's journey, and how she actually becomes good. She lives up to the title through reconnecting with her sister. So I think in theory I appreciated that, and I appreciated the songs in which those arcs came to fruition, but would have liked there to be more breathing room like the first one had with additional stuff that that fills. and some of that emotional context and literal context. Well, I feel like that focus, though, does get lost because I agree with you on, like, that first hour was really singing to me a lot. No pun intended.
Starting point is 01:44:07 It was really hitting me on exactly we were talking about. With the first one we being Alphabet's tale and for good, referencing Linda here. But whereas the first one, it is clearly Alphabet's movie with this, with some supporting characters getting the arc, like Linda and her having an arc, like Linda has an arc in the first movie.
Starting point is 01:44:27 movie and glinda and their relationship has an arc and then here they set it up like that but glinda's this being gilinda's movie kind of gets lost as glinda's movie you know like her story is just not as compelling as as alphabas you know it's like oh this girl struggles would being worshipped and for like false things you know which can be interesting but it's more interesting as a supporting role than it is as a leading role, especially when you're comparing it off of the heels of Elphaba, who is, you know, the one who's doused greed and has powers and it's ostracized since she was a young child, you know, like there's so much more, there's so much more richness to that. So, you know, I just think there's, there's stuff here where, again,
Starting point is 01:45:13 exploration, it's a lot of exploration just kind of lost with it. You know, like she's really in love with that Fiori guy. And yeah, she's a little bit upset about it for like 10 minutes. And then And then we can pass that. Yeah. Well, to play a, or just to call on the things I did appreciate about it, even though I feel like it could have been more fleshed out, I did think that the theme of, what does it mean to be good? How do we show up as someone that is good is something that is a theme throughout the movie?
Starting point is 01:45:41 They do keep saying for good. And, you know, she, uh, Glenda tries to do her version of good from within the system. Ferreira tries to do good from within the system. The wizard tries to do what he feels is good. Alpha Buzz, like, you know, I'm done being good in the way that, you know, I've been doing it. I'm going to change up how I've been operating. So, you know, those things are in there, but again, it's muddled down by trying to be member berries of the original thing. We're also changing that thing because it doesn't know if it wants to adopt the book or adopt the MGM movie.
Starting point is 01:46:13 Well, I feel like, yeah, you have this kind of beautiful potential for a dual harmonized story where Glinda is learning to wake up to the world around her and see it for what it truly is. And then find what good means in that context. And then Elfaba realizing that, yeah, I've done all that I can do in some ways and that there's a greater kind of picture that I can speak to. And also her finally being able to go off and to live with, you know, someone who loves her and gets that, you know, it's a, it's a bittersweet ending, but there is a happiness to that. And I feel like there's the most beautiful stuff in the movie is tied up within that. And it's just often kind of fighting. It's just jockeying for space with other stuff. And, yeah, it's beautiful in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 01:47:00 And it's the most rousing stuff in the movie, but it's also thematics that could be, they're important. And to go to all the effort to re-contextualize the Wizard of Oz is a story about fascism and you. You know, I feel like you need to kind of make that the top priority. And then all the other stuff. what was your favorite musical number the one actually
Starting point is 01:47:23 the one stand out to you in this movie I think visually though the Glenda's song about the bubble was the way that was shot was really really engaging yes that's the one right now because none of them had a great like emotional pull for me in this particular
Starting point is 01:47:43 moment that we're going over it but I feel like that one cashed my attention the way that I thought was unique. The wizard song was pretty fun. Wizard was fun. Is that the one we're dancing to?
Starting point is 01:47:57 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Wizard one is my favorite. Yeah. I mean, there are a lot of lovely, very emotional numbers, but I feel like this half of the show
Starting point is 01:48:06 is also like kind of less hooky. You know, you don't have your pop, you're defying gravity. Like, you know, I feel like a lot of the most iconic numbers come up at the top. And then, you know, I liked the music here, but it was a little bit more like
Starting point is 01:48:24 complex via the plotting in a way that was cool but yeah it was just a little less sort of immediate rush yeah a little more somber a lot more kind of dialogue driven
Starting point is 01:48:35 like the where the singing is actually a little bit more like a dialogue exchange uh too when they're singing together at the end too and it's like they're truly like expressing their love for each other essentially that was pretty powerful yeah i also like glinda's song it was the reversal of elphabah song with uh when she uh fur went back to glinda
Starting point is 01:48:58 and then elphab and then glinda had her version of that where he went to go be with elphaba that that was nice like post wedding yeah that's true that's a nice one and when the cowardly line starts rapping it's really good and break dancing yeah it's fine the movie's fine It was less to appreciate, but it could have been better. I was never bored. I'll tell you that. I was never bored, and that's like the biggest one. But I would honestly give it like a six out of ten.
Starting point is 01:49:29 I enjoyed a bunch of the movies they tried to make into this one. Yeah, I'll give it a thumb and a half up. Yeah, I thought at first it was like charmingly and disorienting, like weird and, like, funky and sometimes not great, but in a way that I found charming. And it wasn't until, like, they go full Wizard of Oz, like, House shows up. And, like, this movie's, like, fucking not great right now. We're in that vicious mess territory now. That's what I, that's really when the movie's like, oh, now you're losing me. Now your charm's wearing off.
Starting point is 01:50:03 There's a lot to take in. Because I made it, you say, oh, she's going to some of their tornado. And I was like, I should be a cackling. I really didn't believe that's what was going to happen because I was like, how the fuck would it possibly? It didn't make a ton of sense. I would it smoothly get there. How do you get from our dimension on earth to wherever Oz is? Yeah, there's no even acknowledgement of like, well, you could open up like portals to another like dimension?
Starting point is 01:50:23 Well, and there's no way Jeff Goldloombs is going to go back and be, you know, like a traveling carnie snake oil guy. Out of everything they try to explain, they don't try to explain like, oh, wait, Jeff, I mean, Oz, you come from a land like Dorothy, right? Yeah. I mean, it sucks because I remember towards the first half of the reaction, I was like, I like how they're taking advantage of the film medium by allowing it to have more content. and be more full. But then you don't do that in the second half. You don't give it more context. When it was way more important, I think, to do that.
Starting point is 01:50:53 Yeah. Because you're tying it into a, like, this really should have been the movie that becomes the companion piece where you could watch this before or after. It's like, choose your own experience. Do you want the fanciful version or do you want the like epic version? Yeah. But then with by doing that, even if it's all accurate, but because of the skipping around, it just, it actually, it affects all the same.
Starting point is 01:51:16 scenes that follow in between, I think. Yeah, it also feels weird that Fierro gets turned to the scarecrow. And then the next scene we see Dorothy and there, he's, uh, are we traveling with her? I was just like, what? This movie feels like one of those big cork boards with a bunch of post little, uh, cue cards tacked on to it. Yeah, she's like, oh, this scene of this scene. Because then when you remember, like, when they meet and stuff like, but that doesn't
Starting point is 01:51:38 line up at all. Like, his performance is nothing that and how we got there. And I'm like, were they all running back and forth from being? with Dorothy and then going back elsewhere to Oz to do other shit. It also scarecrow fear. I want to just tell her that she's not bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Yeah. Yeah. It is. You know the entire time, but isn't it the whole point of Wizard of Oz? It's like, you guys, the things you're looking for you had inside did the whole time. It's not like he lost his memory. Wait, did he lose his memory? I don't know. Well, I said he doesn't have a brain. Yeah. But then the wizard's like, I can't give you
Starting point is 01:52:11 your brain. And like, we establish here, you can't get the powers of reverse stuff back. But at the end there, he's like, oh, right, let's say, fuck off now. I mean, yeah, the first one's the original movie is a cozy, yeah, like everybody is a clear representation of someone in Dorothy's life. So, like, either this is like the vast dream universe that exists within her head or it just isn't compatible. Yeah, I was saying in the book that it is real, but in the movie they're saying it's part of a dream world. yeah it's like the mirror to yeah and you can't say it because in the original one like what the witch like hated dorothy's dog right and she can't be like oh you're the black lady who hated my dog and back in the world i freed all the
Starting point is 01:53:00 animals except this fucking dog shit in my castle one too many times you're out toto you're out you see kansas again no that's so funny oh well yeah that's that's a disappointment all right well we'll see
Starting point is 01:53:23 what says I really that on the I would see weird titles on on YouTube you know of course a lot of people love it
Starting point is 01:53:33 it's still got a really solid audience score it's still making a shit ton of money but I would see weird stuff like that that wasn't quite clear or like pissed off faces
Starting point is 01:53:43 in the thumbnail and I was like I don't know what that fuck that means. So I didn't know what any of it meant. I haven't even watched. I even heard the interviews are fucking bizarre. And I'm like, I don't know what the interviews. Like, this has a 93% out of 10,000. Like, people love this movie. Yeah. So, you know, I'm glad people really love it. And, hey, it would, the, who, us, for to be super positive here, especially because, you know, our first one is one of the most popular videos I've ever done here. But I can. I got to be
Starting point is 01:54:11 honest right now. And it's like, no, unfortunately, I, it didn't quite jive with me. It's like, yeah, people really are in love with this movie. I'm looking at the audience score and it's like, fucking, humungo. Well, and there's a huge amount of goodwill from the first movie because the first movie, I feel like a lot of people are regarding as, as like the best big scale Hollywood musical in a long time. So, yeah. And this has enough things, you know, that are similar to the further.
Starting point is 01:54:39 Enough of the things that worked about the first movie are present here until I think, yeah, make it work for a lot of people. Yeah. I do feel a little bad because obviously, like you said, Greg, this is the first one of our most video videos. So a lot of people have been anticipating this video. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's just so shitting on it.
Starting point is 01:54:55 It's just like, oh, man, it's not as good as I wanted it to be. Yeah, no, we're not shitting on it. It's the burden of great. It's the burden of not catching greatness when you had a lot of the ingredients to do so. And it's also the burden of that's the problem with reaction world content is usually fan, only the fans usually. People who love this, want to see. people love it too so it's kind of hard but you're like yeah you know if we were just reviews you
Starting point is 01:55:19 get both but usually when it's reactions it's only the fans who tend to show up um but hey had to be on i i i was digging it up until like the last half hour and it really kind of soiled most of the experience for me there's a lot of good stuff there's a lot of it was fine it was fine but yeah it was good there's still a lot to like for sure there's still a lot to like and especially in that first hour so um all right guys well we had fun did you Wicked for fun. Wicked for fun. See you guys.
Starting point is 01:55:47 Happy New Year.

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