The Reel Rejects - FALLOUT 2x03 Breakdown & Review!!!

Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, guys, let's do it. Well, hot dog. All right, we just watched Fall Out, Season 2, S out, and I'm going to think Praper bearing down these highlights. You guys are doing a great job. We love you. The notebook says, thank you. Thanks. Good comedy.

Starting point is 00:00:26 I have a notebook. I like all children's comedy. Just perfect for our audience. Perfect for our fallout audience right there. Can you say thank you, no, bloc. Thank you, everyone, for watching. Oh, brotherhood. Oh, Greg.

Starting point is 00:00:45 Oh, boy. So why is this war starting? Between the brotherhood? Yeah. Because he killed an ethnic guy? Yeah, as... So the crazy thing is that the Commonwealth is actually in the... subcontinent of India.

Starting point is 00:01:02 And this whole entire series is a metaphor for Jammu and Cashmere. Nicely done. You got there quick. There's no other way to get there, Greg. Yeah, that's true.

Starting point is 00:01:15 No other way, not with a bit. Yeah, we well, first off, they, the show has succeeded in introducing Kaiser's Legion immediately taking them off the map

Starting point is 00:01:31 we don't know for sure well somebody's going to survive I'm sure but they are certainly a fragment of them of their former selves yeah but that seems to be a common theme throughout the all the factions is nobody seems to have won the war

Starting point is 00:01:47 that was the subject of New Vegas which is really cool is the war supposed to be a tiny bit unclear what the the great war or this war like this upcoming war that they're talking about the one that's to happen yeah yeah i mean a civil war that they're talking about because yeah well i don't really understand the grasp of what the brotherhood has it seems like sometimes they go to like cities in this world who are not even that aware of what the brotherhood is and stuff yeah so the brotherhood

Starting point is 00:02:21 it's like the impression i'm getting yeah is the brotherhood commonwealth and all that they think the world is all about them and their civil war feels like it's going to like encompass the whole world but this is mainly something within them is it something that will affect the rest of the world as well is that i meant is it commonwealth that exceeds further beyond i want to be careful with because i don't want to spoil anything for those that haven't played the games um but i think it would be safe for me in a non-spoiler way to say that in the way that the new California Republic was a faction. Yeah. The Commonwealth also exists as a sort of territory, not necessarily a faction, a specific faction, as much as a territory that had many factions

Starting point is 00:03:12 within it. And where are they located? The Commonwealth is in reference to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. Okay. Which is back east. Boston. That's right. Yeah. So it's It's a, I mean, I think the best way to think about it is, it's a civil war. So it's a war within. It's a war between people that are technically on the same side. Yeah. And ultimately, the brotherhood, as we saw a glimpse of in this episode and the previous episode, is all of these different chapters that are geographically disconnected from each other, that are in many ways self-sustaining, but all have different interpretations of their origins. So in the same way that like California as a state is different than Texas, is different than New York, it's the same sort of principle.

Starting point is 00:04:03 And now there is sort of this galvanizing technology that has the ability to unite them. And whomever has it has the technological edge required to unite the different chapters of the Brotherhood of Steel, which is a very difficult thing. do as they are geographically separated, ideologically separated. And I think most interestingly was a lot of what was alluded to by our ambassador from the Commonwealth. Kamala's character? Yeah. Yeah. It's saying that things are not necessarily going as well as they appear, which I think sets up a really interesting question mark of what's going on in the Commonwealth. And I have some areas when I'm going to keep my mouth shut. Gotcha, gotcha. Well, I like that it's stemming from this incident with Maximus, who's been pushed away from the leadership within the brotherhood as well. And he's already been questioning the ideology, more so this religious system that he has been abiding by. And now for him to do this, which is to go directly against their Bible, is pretty. Do you call it the codex? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:19 Yeah. Do you think he's going to lie about what happened to Camille's character? because he lied a lot in the first season. I mean, he's carrying on a lie. He didn't kill Moldaber. Yeah. He did? I feel like he doesn't feel confident that he could get away with a lie this time. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:43 That's why he said, I think I started a war. Especially since he indicated, do you want me to kill him? Yeah. That's a tough, that's a tough spot to be in. Yeah. Um, well, now it creates an interesting situation of they've also established the other chapters that have clearly said they're not going to go with the Mojave, uh, California based. Uh, well, the big takeaway I was taking from the elder, Quintas is his name. Quintus is he was explaining the origin of the brotherhood, government versus God. And that it seems like Commonwealth cares more about government and brotherhood cares more about God, although. Yeah. Well, I, so it's, it's, It's sort of interesting because they sort of alluded to it in that there's different types of roles within the Brotherhood. There's knights, there's scribes, so on and so forth.

Starting point is 00:06:34 And each sort of represents a different part of the ideology. Like the preservation and the knowledge and the wisdom is just as important as the sword that fights to get that technology. And I think the realities of the East Coast Brotherhood. All of their realities are so different, and those circumstances, in many ways, dictate which part of their ideology ends up being the most prominent. And it's interesting because every fallout game, like, approaches it in a different way, but shows you different lights and sides of the Brotherhood. And I think this is done a phenomenal job at giving a nice little taste of it. Yeah. Well, I like the way Camel was portraying it, because.

Starting point is 00:07:23 because he was taking glee into killing. And it seems like when in doubt, rely on the word of the codex to get away. Yeah, to rationalize the... Yeah. Well, and it was sort of a striking thing because for a brief moment, I forgot that, like, oh, yeah, they don't view ghouls as people. Yeah. Well, that's why Daddy is left last time. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah um but it's such an interesting sort of uh we're fighting for the people we're fighting for blah blah you know and then it's like oh no those are actual children yeah and you're about to mow them down um and i i think that also sort of again reiterates why the brilliant choice to take the nCR off the map because they represent the best of this world yeah and by eliminating that choice. It creates such

Starting point is 00:08:23 moral ambiguity ambiguity. Ambiguity. Ambiguity. I'm struggling. You got it. Ambiguill-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-b.

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Starting point is 00:08:50 there you go one and down ask your question yeah that's all I got what do you think well I think I think the this one's feeling more

Starting point is 00:09:07 historic this one's going back to more historic it's weird how like the first season has a little bit more of an attainable easy to latch on to retro sci-fi thing that they do and this one's even going more

Starting point is 00:09:20 biblical right like you got the roman empire and medieval type of characters that they're showing you've got the now they're they're emphasizing more of what the brotherhood actually believes and how uh these belief systems in terms of all kinds of things we could start a human war a start a civil war often comes down as what one believes is a humanity rights yeah you know like i mean it's almost like we in the united states once fought a civil war over rights over human rights yeah and who was a person what you consider to be a human and what you don't consider to be a human and watching what happens here so i i like the illustration of that when so much of what they're saying is history can repeat itself and we don't want history to repeat

Starting point is 00:10:06 itself and you're watching literally history repeat itself when they're out of options they rely on history there's a reason that every fallout game starts with the friendly reminder that war never changes. It is a constant theme of humanity. And it is an interesting, like, Kaiser's Legion and the whole philosophy. And it was, I thought it was brilliant how they did, like, a very clear fake out of the emperor looking similar to the emperor from the games, very similar to Lannis, the, who McCulkin played, looking like, oh my God, it's this amazing character. And then you realize, like, there's no way that's the same guy. Like, clearly. somebody has taken his mask and clearly this guy just sort of looks like the emperor um but their whole

Starting point is 00:10:55 ideology and sort of why i got really excited when lucy started going on about history and sort of pointing out all of the ironies of their philosophy is because the original Kaiser in the game loves history and that was sort of the antith like his idea of how do you bring back order and restore the world is for us to go to this like very ancient very civilized like civilization achieved through the brutality and the the militarism of this ancient tradition yeah and it's sort of interesting because like it's a preservation of ideas that you lose as the world became more modern and as you know now granted like it's pretty messed up there's slaves and all different different sorts of atrocious, atrocities, war crimes, you know, people on crosses, et cetera.

Starting point is 00:11:52 But there was an ideology there. And it's interesting because you see what's left of it. And it's, they're just playing dress up. Yeah, I even said that when they first showed up. I was like, they're larping right now. Yeah. No, and that's sort of a far away off from the intentions of what they sit off. Yeah, because they don't even mean historically accurate.

Starting point is 00:12:14 No, no, that's. Medieval, you know, but that, I think that was exactly the brilliance of, of, of the spin here. Yeah. You know, and I, I think the Brotherhood sort of faces a similar, it is, everyone is trying to figure out what is the successor to the old world. And is the successor a carbon copy of the old, or does it look like something new entirely? Fair. And I love those sort of philosophical questions Because if the world that was was so good

Starting point is 00:12:50 Then this should have never happened in the first place Yeah, exactly I to direct it back to the last couple characters Before we head out Yeah Who would you want to talk about first? I got thoughts on both Lucy and Cooper Which one you want to go to look first?

Starting point is 00:13:04 Let's start with Lucy because I thought This was a very strong episode for Coop Okay, I'm glad you said that Because I started The realization started to dawn on me what the big lucy problem is is she's having the main character syndrome problem which is

Starting point is 00:13:19 in the first season she was fucking brilliant and they had a great character set up for Ella Pernel and she nailed it. I undoubtedly like that's as much as like people talk about the ghoul and whatever it was her season and she was amazing and nailed every moment

Starting point is 00:13:35 in arc and the writing on her was insanely good and it seems like they don't really have an arc for this time like they don't really have something as clear cut. So it kind of feels like we're going through repetitive beats and repetitive motions because it's like, well, we already kind of did like the main arc that we needed for her. And now she's here on this journey. So she just has a mission now. And she's revisiting some stuff. Because while Ella is killing it as per usual, she's nailing down the performance of Lucy. The writing

Starting point is 00:14:02 surrounding her is not as distinct or as special. Because like when you look at Maximus, very clear art that they're going through with him within the brotherhood. When you look at Cooper, very, very clear what they're exploring with him. With Lucy, it's like, kind of more of the same shit she went through last time. I would be willing to bet you 150 caps that there is a good chance that next week's episode is what this episode was for Coop. Okay, I hope so. I really, I'm holding out a relentless optimism, a Lucy-inspired optimism. that they're going to give her that same gratitude.

Starting point is 00:14:45 I really think it's going to come in the form of something's going to happen. She's going to have to have a little bit of a mental breakdown and deal with the fact that her mother was a cool. Her dad is an evil murderer who uses atomic weapons against innocent civilians and her entire life and existence is a lie and that she is the heir to an empire of blood and death. Yeah. Yeah, I hope they do something. I don't know what it'll be, but I hope they do something that's a little bit more rich as opposed to just throwing Ella into a circumstance that is like interesting, but not really taking her character in a direction that we haven't already seen before, you know. I do appreciate before we get into Coop, I do appreciate that they've taken a gentle step back on House. Robert House.

Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah. Yeah. I think that was a good move to slow that down. Okay. And to let that build up for the duration of the season. I was a little worried that we're going to, like, get to Vegas immediately and that it was going to, like, I'm glad that we're off the beaten path a little bit so that that can build. I also think that's a great transition to talk about the bathroom scene.

Starting point is 00:16:01 The bathroom scene. I love the bathroom. Well, one thing I'll say really quick for Lucy as we're going into Cooper in his story is, I think what Lucy's mainly doing is serving Cooper story now, though, in terms of, like, bringing out the humanity within him. And so I get that is probably what they're doing for with her to serve, be a support for them. Yeah, I wholeheartedly agree. I mean, it was very clear that she, he, Coop saw a version of his, his comrade, you know, that he was soldiers with in Lucy. And that sort of set off that sequence, which I thought all of that was so brilliantly done.

Starting point is 00:16:43 Having the congresswoman who is just an absolute catastrophe of a person coming out, you know, and like, okay, this is the one good person fighting the good fight in the legislature. That means it's over. Like there is no democratic or peaceful way to win this fight. Like, the institutions that Coop believes in are no longer there and are no longer viable. Yeah. That sets into motion the rest of his character arc. And, like, it starts with, if I stop this one bad guy, maybe I can make a difference. And then, inevitably, he cascades.

Starting point is 00:17:29 And at some point, he ends up becoming what he is now. I really... There seem to be clues that he... is somewhat responsible for the position. Responsible? In a way that he doesn't realize. Or didn't realize when he did it? And I think that's probably more likely than anything.

Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. At some point, his humanity was shaken to its core. And I think it, there is probably a very interesting story in the immediate aftermath. It also, and I'm so curious, like, share your thoughts in the comments. was was it alluded to when when he was having the conversation with the robot that he like number one he had a relationship with the new california republic for a long time but maybe he was part of the new california like maybe he was trying to build and be a part of what came after i think so because the new california republic person recognized him right away and

Starting point is 00:18:36 that ghoul has a history or something with the new californ yeah long history yeah you know it sort of presents an interesting he's cited with moldaver in the past and stuff so it would make sense that he did and then he yeah continued continued that fight even after the bombs dropped which in my mind sets up such an interesting the next round of flashbacks after we get past the dropping of the bombs which will be really cool to see by season three thing I yeah yeah but but I love I love the seeds that they're planting, but this was definitely an episode where his humanity won out. What did you think at the bathroom scene? Well, I thought, I'm running under the 100% assumption that that is the real house. It has to be, right? If it's not, then congratulations, Amazon,

Starting point is 00:19:23 MGM, you did it. I am so confused. But, I mean, yeah, if a guy wants to live forever, anonymity is probably a big key to that. Oh, 100%. I mean, I mean, a body double at the bare minimum. Yeah. If Padamee did, it surely how else would I do. But I thought that I'll tell you what I hate. House is already aware to an extent of what's going on. Okay.

Starting point is 00:19:53 And that indicates to me that there is absolutely no way that whatever terrible thing, that ended up happening that made the ghoul the ghoul, that House played an essential role in placing him and having him do actions that he thought was appropriate. Oh, okay. Well, we'll just have to wait and find him.

Starting point is 00:20:21 You know, I'm pretty confident. I don't think we have to. I think we can just be happy with my theories. So, well... Close us out, Michael. Citizens of the Real Reject Nation. I am sad to tell you that our beloved capital has been destroyed in an unexpected atomic blast, and Greg and I are the sole survivors. Don't forget to leave a comment and like the button.

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The Reel Rejects - FALLOUT 2x03 Breakdown & Review!!!

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