The Reel Rejects - FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM (2016) MOVIE REVIEW!! First Time Watching!!

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Starting point is 00:00:35 every time they do the juice well for listening us on apple or spotify we listen to we watch fantastic beast where to find them what did you think honest thoughts I liked it but I will say that the pacing

Starting point is 00:00:51 of this movie was slow I think they could have honestly cut out like a good 20 25 minutes maybe 30 and gotten to sort of the more exciting parts that get you more information about the characters and the people around them. I will tell you, I know nude's name

Starting point is 00:01:11 and Credence's name. I don't, I don't, even our main characters like the blonde girl, do we remember her name? I mean, listen, I am me, I get it. Like, we all know, I don't have a good memory. Okay, I'm just trying to make a point here that I think we could have dove in a little bit more into Newt's, maybe his like life and then gotten to the drama a little bit quicker. We spent a lot of time sort of in New York without an explanation as to why we were totally there until we got back to his soundstage and they were like, oh, he's like saving these creatures and then he's releasing them where he thinks like they should go. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:02:02 I just don't think it was a very strong plot. What I do think it had was very cool effects. And obviously, I'm a big fan of all the animals, all the creatures. There was a, there's a divide between the witches and, like, the Salemers. But we didn't learn that much about it. And, like, they hid this, this obscure towards, like, the end of the movie where I'm like, why didn't you give us that in the beginning? we could have been like toying with that or wondering when is that going to hit us but we didn't

Starting point is 00:02:32 really get that information until later and we didn't spend that much time with credence in the family or that little kid all we got the only reason that well it was a good bait and switch i thought it was a little girl because they kept doing pickups on her so that was a good bait and switch there um i thought that um credence being an obscure old um was really great that he was the strongest i get why because it's all that hidden anger that he has inside of him. And he was, like, beat by that lady. And that lady was like, your mother was the worst. Like, she was terrible.

Starting point is 00:03:08 He was in a really, really bad environment. And I'm not surprised why he would have really, really strong powers. Very sad that they killed him at the end. I still just, it was sad. But I feel like they could have done something more with that moment with Credence. for him to die, if we had known a little bit more about why we were there, why he's in this story, I think it would have hit a little bit harder, the audience. Like, I feel like it could have been a very emotional hit, but, I mean, it was sad, but I wasn't like crying about it or anything.

Starting point is 00:03:44 And then what in the holy tamale, Johnny Depp, yo. Like, I know you are going to be like, I wasn't screaming over, over Colin, because I was just, I was looking at him. I'm like, oh yeah it's him i don't know how many stars are in this um but what and then he i just don't need it okay that's crazy i love it um yeah i liked it i thought it picked up at the end i thought the special effects when when creedance goes whackadoo wild in the subway that was like asmr to me i was like i could stare at this thing moving around it was just it's scary but also awesome so good job on that um the plot and the plot i like the writing but the plot just i don't know pick pick it up you know that's what i got mm-hmm mm-hmm

Starting point is 00:04:36 you ask me i mean i mean go ahead i mean i guess if they want to do you think they want to know what you think about it just tell them they might want to know they might you guys might want to know what he thinks i guess he's been here so go so go ahead all right here we go i'm heading in there how's that not meme does that mean oh jesus christ no oh my god you're right like how's that not a meme that that was shared like nine years ago everywhere yeah what would it be um that was interesting because I thought I liked it more when I first here's what I remembered I remembered

Starting point is 00:05:26 that Ezra Miller that's Credence is actually something else that's I didn't remember anything about like what an obscure is or was or what that meant I didn't even know the word I just remembered he was something else so I was like oh when you're when you're pointing out the little girl I'm like I think I think it's I'm pretty sure it's Ezra Miller But I'm not going to, you know, say that out loud. Right. And I remembered that Colin Farrell's really Johnny Depp, Grindlewold.

Starting point is 00:05:56 You remember that. I remember that. There's this whole thing in the filmmaking world where he's Grindlewald and that's when. So like in the timeline of events, I'll just get it out of the way. So it's not distracting you the whole time we're watching the second one. And the timeline of events, this is around when Amber heard had put that shit out. And so this was a big controversial casting thing. and like i can't believe you put johnny depp in here and stuff this has been like oh johnny

Starting point is 00:06:23 dep we hate you yeah when when disney got rid of him disney i mean everybody kind of got rid of him but then obviously then that means warner brothers still huh yeah kept him eventually let him get all just said okay okay got it so um anyway yeah so i remember that but in terms of like how it played out plots I couldn't remember I didn't remember the whole thing with the rain and shit like that I was okay

Starting point is 00:06:57 it's a cute film I feel like if we watch this several weeks later instead of right away we might have enjoyed it exponentially more yeah it's like we have a higher standard yeah like just because

Starting point is 00:07:17 as it stands it's like the components I like I like the concept of historical fiction in the wizarding world that's a cool thing to open up I like the aesthetics of 1920s New York yeah and when Voldemort and all that feels very Naziism to do this on the brink of World War II and to draw this parallel of xenophobic and then then wizards and witches feeling like repressed and that they should don't have they shouldn't be living in the shadows right interesting conversation how much like control there is and how there's a the american way of separation from muggles or nomadge and yeah there's there's a there's a lot of ideas there the general performances i think are enjoyable i wouldn't i would have forgotten their names if uh I in my back of my head hadn't heard it before there's oh maybe I did forget their names uh I mean they're kind of like basic name I mean Harry and Ron are pretty basic names but uh okay no newt yeah Queenie is the woman one woman oh Tina is the oh detective girl okay and what's he called Jacob Jacob Cawalski? Yeah, Jacob.

Starting point is 00:08:43 Oh, Kowalski. Kowalski. So, yeah. Oh, I love Kowalski as a character. Like being an eyeline with the humanity and the wonder and bringing that childlikeness is great. Aspects to nude, I really, really enjoy as like this socially awkward guy. Part of what I think the illustration of him that makes him fun is when I was becoming aware of like, oh, yeah, like a lot of the people who do read books, not everyone. I don't even, I wouldn't even know of like it's most, you know, but maybe there's those book readers out there who are very, very shy and don't know how to really socialize.

Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. But they can escape into the world. And part of me is like, I kind of feel like Newt could be an eyeline for a lot of those people where they can feel seen, you know. And like how we saw the Harry Potter reunion. There was like a lot of people who felt like they were being seen through this. Right. These kids. I'm like, maybe that's like an illustration of that.

Starting point is 00:09:37 So I enjoyed that. kind of cute i like the ending scenes a lot i thought weirdly they were like the best scenes it almost uh makes a lot of the movie betters like did i care more about this movie than i realized i did because the the ending season of kowalski was really touching when he steps into the ring gets his bakery even newt and saying goodbye to tina i'm like oh i didn't really feel they had much like super strong chemistry like they were fine um but in that scene i'm like oh maybe i think they had more chemistry than i felt like it made me question some other thoughts i was having along the way um the awareness of americans in this like being seen as like you know paranoid

Starting point is 00:10:27 cult zealots who are like oh there freaking there's witches out there like you got some bananas you know right right and this erasure of history i think is a neat comic there's a lot of ideas here that i think are very cool right um i'm a vegetarian because of not health reasons whatsoever it's because i love animals and i really connected with that of of a lover of animals and then seeing these different creatures but j k rowling wrote this and she doesn't write screenplays um and i i get the impression not that the movie's like messy i wouldn't call it a messy film that's a little bit who's in the mixing pot and what's going on it's nothing there's a lack of

Starting point is 00:11:22 focus stakes and impact affect i would say because the movie's called fantastic beast somewhere to find them and when it was all said and done i was like i feel like the main thing you could have got rid of was the whole fantastic piece they don't really serve a narrative purpose other than some cute adventures of oh shit they're on the loose we got a drive them that's about as far as it really goes and kind of an excuse for new to get out there but it doesn't like tie in super strong because the real interesting shit was the thing that was definitely like the b story and got way less screen time which is hey there's this thing out there

Starting point is 00:12:13 murdering people and it's dangerous and there's you got grindalwald working into it like he's infiltrated and there's a scurl and the cult the Salem people like all that was the more interesting stuff right um but in order to have some like

Starting point is 00:12:35 mind blow with the as I was aware it was going to be credence I was really paying attention how you would respond and I think because they wanted to have a twist that it's credence right

Starting point is 00:12:49 that sacrifice what could have been rich narrative exploration because they wanted to hide that it's credence and have you think it's a little girl and be clever that it's really credence i'm like oh i feel like you would have had a lot more juice here in your movie yeah if you kind of just let us in that it's credence and it might have been a little bit more compelling honestly because you didn't really i don't feel like the twist was like whoa because you already have the twist that it's grendelwald is really here so i don't think like this whole credence thing to be a twist rather let's live in it let's explore it exactly let's be in that story of a guy who's

Starting point is 00:13:27 struggling with this awful it's kind of like um i don't know there's a lot of ways to interpret it but of the of like a closet homosexual in an environment where you can't be gay you know and i think that might have been um more interesting if you dealt with a guy of grendelwald was like using him knowing that he is something powerful you know and and he feels seen but he's but this is his family that credence has so that's i mean like all that this the beast stuff is like it's cute and there's like cute scenes um but i i found myself going like well for watching a prequel to the wizarding world the part that is truly compelling beast stuff is not compelling the part that is compelling has all the shit with the actual wizards

Starting point is 00:14:24 and the dark shit going on there, you know? And we don't really spend time there. So the thing with J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter stuff is she has like a thousand page books. And then you hire a professional screenwriter to focus, sharpen, tighten, make things enhanced. That way you have emotional impact.

Starting point is 00:14:45 Where I kind of felt like we were sort of coasting through a locius of this and nothing really hit until like the final scenes like the after the devastation i agree with kowalski like when he smiles at her i went oh my god like all the after the movie like the wrap-up was the most emotionally punching stuff or um yeah i love you freaking out about grindal wall that was fun but like it's it's not even the freak out is not that it's Grindalwald. The freak out is that it's Johnny Depp. It's not the it's not the fact that it's the reveal of Grindal because they they don't even really it I think the movie you know how like the Harry I felt like maybe they were scared of feeling like they were repeating themselves but I'm like

Starting point is 00:15:34 but you are so just lean into it of them going Voldemort's back Voldemort's around us Voldemort's here and then you see Voldemort to the end of the first Harry Potter movie and I'm like just freaking lean into it. You know I have us be aware of Grindalwald then is dealings and the shadows and all this shit that's going down and then they'd be like oh my god was amongst us the whole time and he's right here is just call them pharaoh right then it would have hit but instead they're like the shock is it's another celebrity johnny dev you know yeah um so yeah i think it does miss the mark on on quite a bit like i i think it's one of those where if we were like lazily sitting on the couch and just like whatever sure if you could like get up and

Starting point is 00:16:18 get snacks and i don't know my phone once at a while or something like yeah like do some other things because uh but in our position of watching something here where it's like it requires our undivided attention and it it becomes a bit of like a focus game rather than a suck you win kind of game and it is kind of like saddening or a little disheartening when um that's part of the magic of those harry potter movies is the getting lost into the they call it a wizarding world and you get lost in the world and i i don't feel like i got lost in this uh because you know the day the characters are nowhere near is interesting um and they don't really become progressive like you made a really good point of something i hadn't thought of like yeah it would have been nice to know like something about

Starting point is 00:17:12 new other than he likes animals he's not exactly like mr mysterious with a crazy past right so you know why don't you like endear us to him and so we could get to know him better rather than having like a charming personality that's why that last scene was so it was so nuanced because she said um was what's her name oh yeah how long did you know the strain you go oh my god so Tina knew the whole time and now we see his reaction and then he says like I've I've changed I think you know people change like without him saying like I've moved on that was a long time ago it was like that gave us information into who he is why didn't we play with some of that earlier yeah there's no arc for him he kind of has an experience and that's it

Starting point is 00:18:00 and a lot of things kind of feel like convenient they felt convenient that the bird suddenly panned out to like be able to do like the most in the world where everything is based off of fictional magic yeah he found myself going a little far-fetched how they just got rid of maybe to rid of everyone's memories in New York and apparently they could just rebuild all this like no problem right now in the matter of what feels like 20 minutes so yeah

Starting point is 00:18:26 it was a little fart like a little convenient there at the end which I assume in the books it doesn't come off as convenient it's revealed there's no books yeah that's why I mean that's why I think the problem that this is that's the problem I literally was like wait because you were like you know she writes

Starting point is 00:18:44 thousands of pages of books and I went did she just pull all the wrong plots from her book like literally that's what was in my brain no she wrote a script that's why it's all over the place she's trying to add in two different movies into one honestly we're focus on on him or focus on freaking credence in the under the underworld of wizards there and like you know the weird stuff going on like that was such an interesting story. Hey guys, I've hit a point in life where I realize time flies. And if you're not intentional about your future, sneaks up on you.

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Starting point is 00:21:20 The most personality creature was the one who stole shit, right? Him and don't forget about Little Stick. True. I like them too. But yeah, I think like, I mean, if you're going to have, like, call it fantastic beasts and there's so much creatures. Let's dive into it. They should be able to, like, form a connection with it. these creatures instead of them being some thing the computer artist put together and yeah you know like

Starting point is 00:21:50 again it's it's it's a bunch of ideas that i felt were all met about 60% to 70% of the way and nothing quite hit 100% or close to it was it was constantly on the verge of not on the verge it was it was it was like the 60 to 70% range in almost every idea and some less than right because i really think listen if i was in that if i was a producer and i was in that room and they showed me this screening i'll say listen start at credence losing it we figure out that he's had a hard life the wizards are like we got to hide here because then we would skip to what i feel like are the most intriguing, the most intriguing scene was Tina and him at the freaking boat and she brings up the girl somehow he can bring that up. But like, why didn't we start on that action where you

Starting point is 00:22:48 can bring those characters and that world together in one? But like, why did we take so long to get there? I don't know. I don't feel like the time spent up at top with him falling around his little guy stealing stuff like that never really panned out for us except for at the end we see him like saving his little gold and the music comes on like all the disaster is done but i'm like but i wanted to feel more of that you know like you know how when you feel like with in paddington that's the best like that's kind of a like i cry don't tell me about pattington no i won't it's just i don't think i've seen two i've only seen one my my my my thing about that is, is just, I cry. That's a little thing that we're going through whatever.

Starting point is 00:23:38 There's just an emotion that is attached to the characters. There is way too much going on in here that we just didn't have a pure focus in order for me to get really attached to Creedon's dying, which I think you could have done, or the opposite. Let us get to know these creatures and get to know Newt a little bit more and why he operates the way he operates. I've really, really liked him and Tina once we found out like how they felt the tearful ending and she asked about the lestrange. I mean, what a good scene. I don't know. I just think the juice is there at the end. She knew how to play that off to where he, he doesn't, Kowalski says no words. She just smiles. He's like, what? And then he smiles. It's so great. I love it. But why didn't we

Starting point is 00:24:30 have that in the movie that feeling that it gives you i needed more of that throughout yeah movie needed like a strong pov honestly yeah we jumped around it started with new but then it went around it's a lot of like plot it's it doesn't feel like that's the magic of the harry potter movies is they feel character driven in spite of how how much is happening in those movies there's a lot of movie in those movies totally it's crazier than all that all them are crazier than this movie yet this feels like a little more all over the place even though it's not than the harry potter films and he had all the potential there like for newt based off of how it ended i'm like okay here's what i think they could have done then i'll give you a very cliche version

Starting point is 00:25:19 then like a or very hollywood version of a guy you started off who he doesn't like to talk to people really doesn't like humans maybe like the last human he really liked was that one girl list range and um he's kind of like stubborn and standoffish and then his journey causes him to like make friends along the way and open up his heart again there you go that's and then you can have the exact same ending because he's like i've changed i'm like you seem like the exact same guy you were at the very beginning of this roof you know and that that part is uh there was like one other thing you said that i was like damn you're right i forgot what it was but it had me think about something this is why i usually have a notepad because i forget my shit well i was just going to say that i feel like this is

Starting point is 00:26:11 a lesson in learning that not all writers can be screen writers well it's about mediums like when you have a story you know you it's about what like what story do you come up with you than what medium does it belong to and the way she writes and executes like that it belongs to a book yeah yeah and that's like you can't i get you're an amazing writer but like where where she really thrives is in a novel where she can build out her environment when she is you know uh has to be locked in this room and sort of shut down to it's got to be 90 pages 120 at the most she's not going to thrive in that environment it gets a little messy i guarantee you she walked in there and was like 300 pages and they were like you know we don't like we can't yeah that's not gonna no one's gonna tell

Starting point is 00:27:04 jk row rolling and then you're like cut cut cut what is she gonna like this is not this is not at the director's medium at this point exactly if the creator producer is now the screenwriter no one we're gonna be like we have to we have to we have to make it we have to make sense not really we can't we can't better yeah but we got to do it we can't we got a loosener yeah like you position yourself where um because yeah i felt like this had this this this this missed the this missed the feeling of wonder and magic when it like that's what harry potter thrives off of um yeah i don't feel like it really did much of an expansion either it was just more like here's a slight different americ like they have the ministry of magic in the uk in uh and the harry potter movies and i'm yeah okay so this

Starting point is 00:27:49 is the American ministry of magic. Yeah, like the only two connections we had was him saying, what did Dumbledore see in you into Newt? And then Newt making a joke, which didn't hit in the movie at all when he is talking to Tina where he goes, uh, uh, what's, what's a school I could go to? And the blonde, he's like, oh, this school's great. And he's like, I would prefer Hogwarts. And he like throws like mud in the bowl and just kind of smiles.

Starting point is 00:28:19 it's supposed to be a little Easter egg but I'm like it doesn't really work because we didn't talk much about it yeah you know it didn't it didn't hit like she wrote that for it to hit it is obviously supposed to hit that way especially with the way he says it and I just went ah it's cute but like you know let me see what the critics gave this one or the audience score more I'm more interested oh okay let me guess I think that the audience score is 71 and I think that the critic score um I think that this critic score is going to be 62 what is it not even there yet I like what you see what you guessed though I guess pretty good right I feel like I might be okay let's see so oh my God so much higher than I thought 74% critics damn

Starting point is 00:29:19 that's why I press that is high 7% was a B B plus is it because of JK like is it it it's not a terrible movie but I'm like wait like it but it could have picked up it was a little slow right yeah I don't know I guess we're like way off base here I mean some people are saying it's boring it's a thing it's like but some people are saying yeah it is stunning visually like I said that but some people are oh yeah there's some people who are like yeah I get it's a little slow I don't know we're not here to repeat popular opinions we're here to share our point of view no and I think and I think you are right in saying that I like all the performers in this right I love seeing the environment the beast that they built the special effects um I do think with plot and

Starting point is 00:30:18 focus. We were spoiled with Harry Potter movies. Those were written by very experienced screen writers who know how to pull you in and your emotions and get it done. The reason we go to the movies and maybe I just needed to see this on the big screen and then I'm like living in the beast world. Maybe it's way more enjoyable. Way more when it rains all this stuff because we the reason I mean I'm here doing this job. I'm sure Greg's same thing. thing. Movies, like I always say this, movies raise me, but movies change you in a way every time you see them. The reason you go, it is an escape from your life. You get to be pulled into a completely different story. And when you get out, you can be like, oh my God, I feel changed. Right?

Starting point is 00:31:07 It could be, it could just be such an uplifting. It could even be depressing, but still, it can change you with like one movie. You get sucked in. I did not really. feel that with this movie. So with that, I do think, sure, we were spoiled with Harry Potter. All the performances in this are very good. Again, the special effects awesome. I wasn't pulled into where I'm like, oh, I'm going to go and talk about this movie or if someone were to bring it up that I would chat about it. No. I mean, I would say I saw it. Performances were good. I love

Starting point is 00:31:44 love the ending and love the beast but I'm I'm excited to see where it goes my my hope is that the next movies have better pacing but if it's jk writing all of them and if she is indeed a producer on this that doesn't leave us a whole lot of hope that the pacing would pick up or maybe the stories would get better but um I don't know I guess we'll have to see I do know the second one is the worst receiver yeah yeah i don't remember i i remember so excited because i assume johnny dep is in it yeah he's that one and i i remembered from that one watching it and not being able to keep up with a lot of it i i remember that so i'm actually looking forward to watching it because we can watch it like how we've been doing with subtitles and having the

Starting point is 00:32:41 a refreshment of the Harry Potter movies in my noggin. I feel like it would be kind of cool to get some of the information because I know they do some additional world building in it. But yeah, like I don't really, I don't remember, I don't remember much about it, truth be told. And I remember checking out because I'm like, I'm having a hard time giving it up. Yeah, you probably would just say I might be bored and I'm not that interested. But no, I'm looking forward to giving it another shot with a truly open mind.

Starting point is 00:33:10 yeah me too genuinely i am i'm excited to see johnny dep like so excited to see where this this whole all these new uh characters where they take us and to see what jk is the thinking to move on from this the fact that it was not a book and she just was like i'm going to write these scripts got it we shall see i need to cut by here again yeah i mean it doesn't look too long good when it's so when you get it fresh i thought this was the mouse on the computer oh my god and that's why you were staring at the screen just now he literally went like this i thought he was going to pass out i thought he was like making a physical joke and i was like i don't get it so big i don't get it anyway guys thanks for being here um yeah but what do you guys

Starting point is 00:34:03 think about fantastic beast and i think i think we could because i because this came out like a couple years or something after the last Harry Potter movie and they might have done us some good if we waited a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I think like, I wanted to do more podcasting about the Harry universe because I love it so much. We could have done that for a few weeks, but we wouldn't have that in the views. Hey, we were, we were keeping an open mind the whole time. It wasn't like we were. We were. We came in here wait and wanted to like not like it. No, absolutely. I was stoked and I'm still excited to see the next two i'm just giving you guys my honest opinion of i want to be sucked into a movie i want to feel for these characters there are a few times i did but it mainly had to do with

Starting point is 00:34:46 the animals it's don't take that stick person don't hurt any of the animals and that the that was it it's just a nice feeling when you're having like uh not a super positive opinion to then be validated by an audience score and critic score and then you're like whoa whoa never mind that validation ain't happening today that's all right but yeah it's the way it goes man that's why we give our honest thoughts first before checking out that shit because that's how we roll that's all you can get from us genuine answers how are you guys doing hope you're all doing great if you are a doctor who fan i mean come on now do you know anything about dr who get your hands on it i know nothing people have told me that i would love it and i just don't have time

Starting point is 00:35:33 to like i i don't ever think like i will go home i got a click on doctor who people tell me to watch it i'd take a little bit together too but yeah yeah right all right like 25 seasons yeah we got to go it's late all right bye everyone thanks for being i'll see you for the next uh fantastic piece bye

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The Reel Rejects - FANTASTIC BEASTS AND WHERE TO FIND THEM (2016) MOVIE REVIEW!! First Time Watching!!

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