The Reel Rejects - FANTASTIC BEASTS THE CRIMES OF GRINDELWALD (2018) MOVIE REVIEW! First Time Watching

Starting point is 00:00:00 This week's videos are brought to you by Price Picks. More on them in just a bit. Let's watch this. Yeah, let's go. Well, ladies and gentlemen, first off, thank you to Prepper for any and out these highlights. Sincerely, Preper, you guys have been absolutely annihilating it lately in terms of editing. And was some nerd chronic who's been working with us helping out on like the second round of editing. these go through a lot of rounds of editing and the editors are often unsung heroes of YouTube

Starting point is 00:00:34 and it's really easy to say a quick thank you but genuinely that so much credit for where we're at with the channel goes to Prepper and anyone else who helps in post production here so thank you uh we watch fantastic beast of crimes with grendelwald and before i go into uh what what are your quick quick thoughts Tara your quick honest assessment about this experience okay um quick honest i didn't i didn't really get attached to any one character like i think i should have it didn't bring up a lot of emotion which i like and i will always say that i'm always looking for the heart in a movie i think they tried to maybe throw that in there somewhere with like the brother stuff and then the little strange stuff but

Starting point is 00:01:27 it never really hit home. I was very specifically excited about use this card for a cup of tea, and I thought it would be a very cool callback, and it wasn't, unless it's a guy I didn't recognize. I thought Johnny Depp was great, but honestly, the best scene in the movie, I'll go back to what I said about the first movie, was between Newt and Tina, where it's just them together and they're talking, he's trying to tell her, I'm not engaged, yada, yada, they have a chemistry. That was like the one little bit of heart that we got. The rest of it was like, what in the, why do we have all of these plots?

Starting point is 00:02:09 And I am just taken aback. The last thing I'll say is that there was a room of producers that watched this part to it going to the public. And all went, yep, we're good to go. No. No, no. listen i say give us information it doesn't we don't need a lot of exposition this they were giving us but it was like so much where like why do we have 13 different plots in this i don't i that's it that's my quick whatever thing right there yeah the the convergence of where it all led to especially

Starting point is 00:02:48 when it comes to like lita lestrange that whole storyline i didn't i i really don't feel like this movie needed it i don't i don't think this i don't think anything about like there's a whole of strange backstory and so some fun facts of things that are are poking into my brain is that um i think the original there's only three of these movies and the original plan was to have like four or five and uh i think after this one the risk because the reception wasn't going super strong that they decided to conclude it in the next one another fun fact for you is that so the the parts in the Johnny Depp real life thing was I don't remember the specific things there was the thing in the sun which was a trial in the UK when he was first contending what he was being labeled as in the paper there yeah he lost that one or something yeah and then he got fired so he doesn't return to the next one he still got paid like 10 million dollars oh okay but then they were like we can't but he's recast yeah so he was big up or he was recast so he's

Starting point is 00:03:58 not in the third one which is a bummer such to watch is the best part yeah and especially now because he's been totally vindicated yeah because then then the u.s. trial that everyone is fully aware about yeah then he was found not guilty there um then uh so yeah so like part of my brain is okay like i don't remember i don't think the list strange i was this was the original plan for the little strange thing to like factor in that they want to like factor more to like Voldemort eventually like really tie it all together because yeah like with Nagini I'm like oh that's kind of a confusing step because the guine is on the other side she's on the other side and like Tom Riddle Voldemort does go to

Starting point is 00:04:38 Hogwarts and maybe that's when they become friends or some shit I don't know I don't know but I will say this I remembered loathing this movie when I saw it in 2018 I really really hated it you know seven years ago I was a different guy and you know I received things differently and and I think it like popped into my brain when there was one moment that was in 3D that went oh I think I saw this in 3D too and I really didn't like 3D when it was like a thing that theaters were doing yeah I actually prefer this one over the first one um kind of quite a bit I think that the first 45 minutes to an hour is pretty solid. That part beats out the first movie, I think, for sure.

Starting point is 00:05:29 Yeah, and I like the finale of this overall. When Grindelwald makes his speech and you see the power of his speech. Yeah. And you're like, okay, I get how he has the followers and the way he manipulates. It was really clever. and you believe is a man of convictions. Whereas like Voldemort is very, you know, like, oh, I'm fucking evil. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:57 This guy actually seems like human. We bought into it. And you believe there's something that feels like compassionate for the pure bloods in a way and the praise on their anger and fears, fear mongers and stuff. But then to illustrate it back to the whole World War II incoming developments and the hydrogen bomb, things as audience members you know are things that really. happen. There's this part in the human brain that goes off of going, well, maybe pure bloods would have been such a bad idea considering what we do to the world.

Starting point is 00:06:25 You know, praise. There's a whole giant conversation. Of course not. Of course not. It's not the right call. But you see it when you pray on the on the emotion and the immediacy of how people could be convinced, right? Especially if there's a opportunity to convince people that we can prevent this from happening. Right. So there's a lot of cleverness there. I prefer the way this one is shot i prefer the tone of this one i think the pace is a little more confident because in that first hour like that opening scene is brilliant oh it's so good it shows you a great visual it feels very harry potter feels different and it's a prison break scene and in the wizarding world style and it also shows you the the the the savviness and the strategy of grendelwald

Starting point is 00:07:12 at the very top um even the setup with queenie and and Kowalski, like there's some conveniences that they do, like, Credence, he's back, okay, don't really explain it, he's back, sure, he's back, don't really make a moment out of it, he didn't kill him, Kowalski, he's back, you know, right, they don't really do much with it, but it's weird, like the last half of this gets so convoluted with so many different plots and you're cutting around, you don't really give a shit about a lot of the stuff that it undermines the stuff that we,

Starting point is 00:07:47 were caring about, like, ah, seeing Newt and Kowalski back together on the adventure and they're going to go to their women that they really care about. I was endeared to that. Dumbledore convincing Newt to go on the mission for. Great. It was great because, like, Newt has his own. And Newt was already trying to be tricked by the ministry to go do it. But that was very much like Kill Credence.

Starting point is 00:08:14 Whereas Dumbledore gave him the same mission, but with a different. why behind that goal and that motivated him in a way that it really bought into yeah that was a smart little switch smart switch um the the the environments and the visuals are really cool i like the whole like echo sequence when you know um newt is unpacking like what went down at the circus the tradition of niggini like i thought there was like a cool little theme that they were developing there of like these misunderstood mutants or monsters when in which i goes into the whole fantastic beast quality of how everyone views them it's like beasts but really newt sees the the humanity underneath them you know right there was so many different things that were actually working and you could see

Starting point is 00:08:55 the build up like going somewhere but something started just going off the rails here in the last hour it it does become like every time we're cutting into credence you're like i don't really care about this now and there's too much information there's so much less strange in here that I'm like, I don't care about this strange. I only would care about it if it tied into Harry Potter in some way that fills in something honestly. You know, there's no reason to care about something, but that would be the only reason I would because what they were giving us was not truly, you know, substantial enough to make me care. I enjoyed the backstory a little bit when, because it's so messed up. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:43 And it's so twisted and cruel. Absolutely. And, you know, there's like a bit of like a colonizer type of commentary and the solid. Like there was, there was things there that I was like, okay, that's, that's like compelling. But I don't really feel like it ultimately amounts to anything even with like, what does Lee to do with you? I don't know, the new jack shit. She sacrifices herself for them for like 10 seconds. We don't want to.

Starting point is 00:10:09 That's the thing is that we don't. In that moment, you're surprised. supposed to feel something they did not set that up in any way shape or form for her being the sacrifice for her boyfriend and being like i love you right that's supposed to be a moment where we probably feel something i didn't i don't know i don't really know what the sacrifice bought them other than like i mean maybe that few seconds i guess amounted to a lot but it didn't really feel like mom like a strong moment yeah what do you think about queenie Queenie was, I think, underutilized.

Starting point is 00:10:47 I mean, to me, when they were in the, when we saw the circus and that stuff, how intriguing would that have been if we just stayed with Queenie and her dude, I'm forgetting the names right now, and then Newt, and maybe we went to go see Tina. But I'm like, there was just so many other plots added on top that I thought we lost. a bit with Queenie, meaning Queenie goes to the dark side.

Starting point is 00:11:18 And again, it is not, I should be at this point yelling at the screen for her not to go. I should be feeling like, what is his name, her boyfriend's name? Kawalski. Thank you. I should be feeling like Kowalski feels. We should be feeling a sense of like, no, no, she cannot. That is what movies are supposed to do, especially when we're. we're seeing Queenie and Kowalski, can you imagine how great I felt when at the end of the first one,

Starting point is 00:11:49 when he smiles at her, that was one of my favorite moments. And I'm so happy that we got them back. But we do not spend enough time with Kowalski and Queenie for us to actually really care that much that now again they're separated and she's going to the dark side because prior to that, we spent 20 minutes talking about how Lestrange is a, uh, this, and then you switched your brother over and like this guy never loved you. Like it was, it was just, it was a lot. And we didn't, I feel like we should have gotten

Starting point is 00:12:23 to know more about the characters we already knew. Why are we adding her in here? I would love to see more Dumbledore and their relationship. And then obviously, Grinwald, he was great in this. Like, what a great presence that he always brings to the table. But, I mean, we could have, I mean, give us back the 40 minutes that we're spending on this relationship with Newt's brother's girlfriend, who's Lestrange, and spend it on the people that we already know. Kowalski and Queenie, people love that relationship. I guarantee you, right?

Starting point is 00:13:01 And then Newt and Tina, all we really got was that little conversation and we get interrupted before he's actually able to tell Tina. Like, it's you. It's always been you kind of a thing. Yeah, I agree what you're saying. Like, give it substance that really helps serve our main characters instead of cutting around like a bunch of different plot. Like that makes us feel something in the end. The brother's storyline, I think, could have actually amounted to something great. I agree.

Starting point is 00:13:30 Because he's like the black sheep brother. He's the one who's misunder, newt is misunderstood while his brother is like the respected one and the one who's like in the papers and the cool one. Right. And, you know, he has that line where he's like, that was the greatest moment of my life when, um, when, when Tina like, um, knocks him down. And it's a fun line. But I think we could have gotten like some actual drama or, or explored that dynamic a little bit more. And that would have been more that then you're servicing our main character new to you're servicing him. And it was a rich part of the development rather than some like side story with stuff. Like Credence is so undercook. like you bring him back and credence is every single line is like I just want to know who I am and we still don't know he's a Dumbledore I'm oh right but yeah you're right you're right but it doesn't amount to anything really like because it's so repetitive yeah and and you don't really get much from it like explore the relationship then with him and the guine it becomes

Starting point is 00:14:34 at a certain point everything starts becoming like information overload versus you know emotional character development you actually show up for in a movie instead of just watching it like i'm watching a textbook now watching just information and i think though that newt is great in this i think freddie redmayne no eddie redmayne freddie edmy eddie eddie i think he's amazing in this i like how he's actually actively involved and sort of caught between you know like um do these things of like doing as the loses side of the plot a little bit here but it does set him up as that guy who's like going to have to like do the right thing and be put in hard decisions but watching and be actively investigative versus like the first movie which is my animals are loose and then at the

Starting point is 00:15:22 and then like oh there's this thing with an obscureus okay yeah this is him right off the bat actively involved in this mission and you're seeing him use these skills that other people don't really have like with animals and these other things that people take for granted or brush off it's less than and you're seeing how his brilliance um is working where he feels almost sherlock homes esky and then koalski um what is sherlock homes is uh funny side kick watson yeah watson i should know that that's my cat's name watson and um sherlock and watson and that's funny you know because jude law played watson in uh sherlock homes movie oh snap so um oh that'd be fun to react to uh because i don't remember those at all and i was baked out of my mind

Starting point is 00:16:08 when I saw the second one. So I definitely don't remember that one. I haven't seen any of them. But, oh, really? Oh, my God. We got some movies right now. So, yeah, there's, uh, I really liked him a lot. And, like, Kowalski, again, the performance of that.

Starting point is 00:16:21 Queenie was one where I liked the idea of praying on someone's loneliness that they did set up in the first movie. But I don't know. I think her decision at the end is, like, so weird because, like, how does, how is being with Grindlewald lead you to being able to get the thing you? you want, which is to be with Kowalski because you're set up at the movie is I can't be with the person I love because of the laws and they frown upon, you know, mixing bloodlines when you're like, you're running, you're going to the pure bloodline. The people who want to like,

Starting point is 00:16:53 who are, who are literally like telling people like muggles, despite what Grinnellwald says, it is how they are operating. Muggles are less than and muggles should be stopped and controlled and oppressed. So like, I was this possibly helped. serve what you what you were saying you're not able to get now right i feel like they were they were playing it as if she was almost like enchanted by the idea because that the last words really to well to that kowalski says to her as he says wake up you have to like wake up to where it's like she's just she she's just wrapped up in it and doesn't really know she's like i have to go to him like it's like a weird thing um and then of course what pushes her over the edge which i thought was

Starting point is 00:17:37 a good callback as you're crazy um but again i yeah i wanted to feel something more i would have liked to see her go back and forth on this would be the better choice for me do you see what's going to happen in the future if we let mudbloods take over the world so i can't choose my own happiness with you if i'm going to go save the world right i would have liked to see that struggle but we don't get any of that we just see her leave Kowalski like that. Yeah. And that's not, to me, what I wanted to see. Springs here, baseball's in full swing.

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Starting point is 00:19:15 Prize fix. Run your game, people. Yeah, yeah, they lose. I think they got muddied on the debate and the conflict because then it just makes it confusing at the end. Because I can see one version, like to lose the nuance is what I'm saying. Of course there's that side of her. like she says i don't really interact with the muggles she kind of feels like she has to hide who she is

Starting point is 00:19:40 and this is an opportunity for her to be seen and for so i see that pull but there's also the side of but the part where it loses the nuance of the argument is but if you go down this path you definitely don't get koalski then that wouldn't be permitted right and i so the fact that she doesn't even like address that is bizarre to me for her to be with him and say we can have what we want them right what do you mean i know you you're you're you're crazy then because that's not at all even what grindal walt's bitching right um and also the thing is is like what what she is is seeing with the grindalwald aspect her character has always been about love she's like love you know how many times she said love in the first move

Starting point is 00:20:30 that is her like almost her driving force and even though she's first seen because she's like noticed with these pure bloods it's like she'll never be seen as koalski sees her and the way he sees her is through love which is absolutely what her character was written around and i don't like that tina never seems to be affected by anything that's happening with queenie Tina's the sister they set up that they have strife i know but they don't even yeah nothing happens jacked with acknowledging it yeah they don't even like a reaction from her right anything of concern and the slightest yeah they don't get any of that and such an odd thing to leave out yeah i like du laus dumbledore um quite a bit i liked his scenes and the flashbacks there was there was a lot again there's like a lot in there

Starting point is 00:21:25 So in the summary of my personal experience is like close to the first hour, it is pretty solid and very engaging. And then in the last hour prior to Grendelwald's speech is it starts giving a lot of attention to other things I personally didn't really care about and they needed to be in the movie. So then it starts sacrificing the things that you do care about that even when you cut to the things you care about, you care less about them now. Yeah, because you've muddled it with 25 minutes of a story we don't care about. Yeah, it takes up too much time. And then you start questioning stuff and then they kind of drag out some things like Newt's two sentence explanation to Tina that she's bent out of shape about because they're manufacturing tension and conflict. When it really could have been a couple of sentences.

Starting point is 00:22:17 And yeah, so it did a disservice to itself in the end. but the overall like the music and the aesthetics and I enjoyed the first hour so much and I love Grindelwald's speech at the end so much that I weirdly and this is not the popular opinion I know out of the three this is the most disliked one oh really okay undoubtedly yeah it is the most disliked one and really put a stain on like the Harry Potter franchise I think as a whole and I actually and I hated it the first time I saw it so this is I had no interest in watching this today yeah and um Uh, the, the only thing, they'll set us up right. The beginning was freaking awesome. The, the, the, the, the overall, though, I think the percentages of the things that I enjoy do outweigh my experience in a positive way for the, compared to the first one. And the first one's much more beloved. Uh, but my personal feeling that I, the last thing I expected to be here today is saying,

Starting point is 00:23:16 like, I actually prefer this over the first one. And, uh, yeah, I would say I prefer this over the first one. I would say that I really, really like. the visual effects. I said that multiple times in watching this. Everything looked really great, and obviously the acting is still totally on point. They didn't miss cast anyone. I even thought that, you know, Newt as a kid was a great casting choice. I didn't think it was like overly distracting of like, oh, God, this, I thought it was good. It was all good choices. The one thing that I would love, if you guys know in the comments, is like the cup of tea old man who's been around

Starting point is 00:23:51 for 375 years. Who is he? I should know, right? I was excited when Dumbledore, but why not? Why are you going to have Dumbledore, say, for a cup of tea? That has been like, we're obviously, I'm like, wait, we're going to link that to Harry Potter, right? And then we don't unless this freaking 375 year old man who hasn't seen action in 200 years

Starting point is 00:24:17 is linked somehow. I thought that is a perfect. that is, of course, going to be a plot point, right? We're just going to drop that in there. That's going to be an Easter egg. It wasn't. I would love to know if it was because we didn't read the books, and that's that guy from the books.

Starting point is 00:24:33 Yeah. Because I felt like it was set up to be an Easter egg, and I was like, I don't know who the app this guy is. So that's the only other thing. Besides it all looking amazing, I do agree with you. Grinwald's like what he brings to the table, and especially him blowing out the effects of like, this is what the world's going to look like.

Starting point is 00:24:50 and like the blue fire and all of that. It all looked really great. I would say that my most favorite thing was the horse bat looking things that take off in the beginning where it's like Santa Claus but spooky season. I really, really enjoyed that. And I said that it reminded me of three,

Starting point is 00:25:09 but I don't think that was right. I think maybe it reminded me of whatever the darkest of the Harry Potter's one was that we really liked. This in the beginning reminded me of that. I liked the darkness that they brought. And they did bring it back at the end with that whole Lestranged thing where that guy like took her. And I'm like, ugh, gnarly, you know, that was gross. But overall, I do think it was a little convoluted.

Starting point is 00:25:36 I think we could have cut out a bunch of characters and just focused on our main people. I mean, you look at the three guys on the poster and it's odd that they threw in a bunch of other people. Meaning on the poster, it has Newt, Dumbledore, and Grinwald. Why do we have Lestrange Credence coming back? Why do we visit Credence like the lady and then she dies? Again, I believe we're supposed to feel something when his caretaker dies. We do a little bit, but not really. There's a lot of moments that I think in this script,

Starting point is 00:26:13 when you're writing this kind of stuff down you don't want to write a death from a very which you're trying to make a very important character not matter and to me this script had a lot of deaths that don't really matter it's not hitting heart i don't think to a lot of people um and that is how i felt when i first saw you yeah and how you have to aim is you that you have to hit at heart otherwise don't have it in there get rid of it That's where I'm at. All right, Mo and the truth. So the first one was 74%, 79%.

Starting point is 00:26:49 Okay, let me guess this one. I'm going to guess that the critics gave this one 62 and that the audience gave it a 69. Okay, I'm going to guess 50% on the critics. Yeah, that's good. And I'll guess. I gave it a little high. I'll guess 75 on the audience. Okay, let's go.

Starting point is 00:27:13 Let's see. Those audiences was still like a Harry Potter, yay. Yeah. One, two, three. Oh, wow. That's big. That was way worse than I thought. Y'all, it's 36% for critics.

Starting point is 00:27:29 Whoa. And 53 for the audience. We were both. You were close with the audience. I mean, I was not. 36%. Jam, 36% critics is terrible. I am telling you these producers.

Starting point is 00:27:42 There's got on the horn and said, I need these reviewers. You better go over there and write us a five star because otherwise it might have been 15%. Yeah, like 36 is the lowest I have seen in a long time. I mean, like I said, like I put a stain on the Harry Potter franchise. Yeah. Wow. And I think there's like a part two that I remember like especially when the Johnny, like Johnny Depp, I remember he like there was like a Comic Con thing.

Starting point is 00:28:12 and went to promote the movie. He came out as Grindy Wald and it was anything Johnny Depp was doing at the time was met with like divisiveness like right away. Of course. So I and even I said during watching it like I remembered watching it and I couldn't get past the fact that I was I was like aware he was doing good but I couldn't get past the fact that I was watching Johnny Depp because of all the spot light of the public and shit like that. Right.

Starting point is 00:28:36 But I don't know. Years later watching it without any of that shit in my head. I'm like, he did great. He was talking amazing. He was awesome. It makes you want to watch more Johnny Depp movies. I will say that I did just watch Mission Impossible 3. We looked up the rating and it was low.

Starting point is 00:28:51 And me and Aaron were we got real upset. What was he doing? Well, Tom Cruise at that time, that was the spotlight of like the hardcore Scientology shit, the jumping on the couch that he got let go of Paramount. Like that movie tainted the box office because of the Tom Cruise public image or Paramount, like fired him temporarily. There was a whole thing that. That's why Tom Cruise had to like.

Starting point is 00:29:10 I didn't know that. He had to dial back his whole, like, public life after that because it was affecting, you know, reception. And that's why Tom Cruise suddenly is now a calm-ass dude in interviews because at that time, he was, like, intense and going on Matt Lauer and saying, like, Brooke Shield shouldn't be taking medicine, you know. Who, Brooke Shield? Oh, though he was on the, I got it. I've been to the Museum of Scientology. It's Wackadoo Wild. So, yeah, no, there's sometimes actors, person.

Starting point is 00:29:41 and lives I do think they greatly affect the movie because Mission Impossible 3 is a great freaking film one of my favorites I've ever seen and we were absolutely stunned to see it like in the 60s I was but right here I kind of agree like it's not good it's not a great movie and I went in with the lowest of the low expectations because I really was of this opinion that I'm looking at right now and I think because I you know when you have that expectation you start noticing some things that like maybe shine a more positive light suddenly because of them you know right but hey these are just our opinions what are your opinions uh would love to know are you a secret defender of this movie as well leave your thoughts down below uh leave a like you can follow terror on her personal

Starting point is 00:30:27 channel for those reality shows go pick yourself up this cool new tie shop docking come all right guys we'll talk to guys soon peace oh my god ever it's on my baker you know it'll be the coolest spell if you were able to turn people into pixelated versions of themselves walking around like it would be like pixels meets harry potter hey that's about as far as it goes aesthetically but how cool would that be if we can get pixelated versions of ourselves that we could interact with. Pixelate. The excitement of it would last like 20 minutes, but it would be a great 20 minutes before it turns

Starting point is 00:31:09 it to a full-on panic when you can't revert the spell back. Pixify. That would be incredible. That would be cool. And then, you know, imagine if you could in pixel form, like, jump into any screen or something. Oh, yeah, dude. Now we're talking money, baby. Because, like, those people in the Harry Potter world, they're alive in, like, photographs and

Starting point is 00:31:25 paintings and stuff. Like, if you were a pixel person, you could probably, like, traverse any screen. possible which would be super wicked super wicked barely any inconvenience they would say everett man you've been here for a while you have been contributing since uh 2018 thank you so much for being here for this long i hope you have a wonderful rest of the month and of course may and i hope you're still here come next month thank you buddy for supporting us for so long it means more than you'll ever realize appreciate you brother I don't know

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