The Reel Rejects - FANTASTIC BEASTS: THE SECRETS OF DUMBLEDORE (2022) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

Episode Date: May 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:03 As you can tell, I'm still angry and smiling through it. But I'll get to a more natural state in just a little bit. Well, hey, we'll see about that. Prepper, thanks for writing this down. Thank you so much. And, hey, if you guys are listening to us our Apple or Spotify, please give us a reasonable rating. Um, well, we just watch Fantastic Beasts and the, uh, crazy secrets of Dumbledore's closet. Um, Tara.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Yeah. What'd you think? Well, there's some, there's some loose ends here that we didn't get to. But I, I did like it. I did remind me, you were like, what happened with Credence? And I'm just like, I guess he's just with his dad. home dying yeah um so we didn't go back there um but i do like i like the ending i thought it was really cute that obviously koalski and and queenie are getting married um i thought it was a bit of a
Starting point is 00:02:10 slow start but it did have comedy which helped me um i i think it really picked up when we got to the confusing part when we got to the dinner and we're like trying to confuse grindevold um i thought that was really fun. And then the suitcase part was very exciting. Yeah, I mean, I liked it. I have more stuff to say. But I wasn't like, oh my God, I love this movie. Specifically, I mean, I'll just bring it up. I always say this. That when there's like, the kid is dying and he meets his dad for the first time. They finally, you know, Credence and his dad. And he's like, did you ever think about me? And his dad says, always. That's a touching moment where I feel like you would want an audience member to be crying, to really feel that. I felt it a little bit, but because we didn't spend enough time with Credence, we didn't really, like, we weren't as invested in that storyline, which I just thought we could have got a lot more juice out of it. I really do.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And the other characters, I mean, it was very much action, plot driven, less character driven, like you were saying. well i'll tell you okay lay it lay down i didn't remember dittly squat about this one really didn't not not even like at least with the first fantastic beast i was like i yeah you get some fragments i come back remember the johnny depp reveal yeah um grendelwald i remember the uh reveal about fucking credence yeah this one I didn't remember anything
Starting point is 00:03:59 and let's just say it makes sense why yeah now look I'm a little tired it's very obvious today I'm a little
Starting point is 00:04:14 it's late we're tired a little stressed by the day I have watched many a thing under such conditions and it does not negatively impact my experience so I refuse to say it is because of that uh yeah there with you I think there's like sections for sure that I I think the last 20 minutes of this is this for strongest part
Starting point is 00:04:40 of the movie agreed that like 10 to 15 minute chunk when they are like invasion of the dinner yeah that's fun really cool I really enjoyed the scene um the fight between credence and dumbledore yeah that was that was cool effects were awesome one of the coolest looking scenes they've ever done and i i like um uh i like the opening scene between him and grendelwald too like they were like it would come and go and waves when something was really enjoyable and then something wasn't yeah i agree i think uh you know let's stick with some positives here might as well The score was lovely.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Yeah. Beautiful score all the round with a, it was kind of a consistency with this franchise and some cool effects moments. I like when the guy gets blasted into the wall. That was a lot of fun. And then he comes out. What a great effect. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:05:41 It looked awesome, dude. Looked great. Whoever plays, I blank on Homeboy's name all the time. Dumbledore's brother. oh yeah i know Abernaffey or something i really good casting on him too
Starting point is 00:05:59 yeah um yeah newts commander man the consistency of eddie redmayne is so so strong and i i think he's a really great leading actor and i wish that the movies around him served him a little bit better koalski
Starting point is 00:06:18 still my favorite guy yeah yeah another great player with you See, guys, look, positives. Genuine positives. I like Mads Mikkelson. I don't feel like Grindelwald's impact in this. I feel like Grinnawold's impact should be the biggest of the three. And I feel like he's really not in it that much.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And so I like Mads Mikkelson, though. Like, I like that he brings a little bit more of a villainous. I think John Depp's more villain. I think it brings more of like a seductive. suave sexy villain you see like the political leader that he could be
Starting point is 00:06:58 you could see how people could like vote for this guy and follow him I agree with that and how we could like charm a room charming for sure I like that I think in the franchise as a whole too
Starting point is 00:07:09 that they get you get three different Grindlewold's is pretty cool that they actually did that from three great actors yeah Colin Farrell Giant Depp and Mads Bickleson those are three really good actors I agree
Starting point is 00:07:21 um the i don't like her too as much as i felt like she was acting whoever play she's so great and shrinking she's great and shrinking but she's just playing her herself i believe she is um second city improv i want to say she's playing herself she's like a full-fledged character shrinking she's she's playing a character she's playing it true to heart she doesn't have to like put on there's more aspects of her in the therapist and shrinking than there ever will be in this character meaning it is very easy to take from your life she doesn't have to put on an accent she has i believe i think i did second city or like ucb i think i was there at the same time with her i believe she's an improv actor um but i do agree with you a little bit in that accent that i like the film noir
Starting point is 00:08:12 i just wasn't sure that we it gives us a little bit more when we're stepping into this um this vibe this timeline but i don't think we really needed it meaning I think she could have, if she didn't have the accent, she would have been dropped into more of the performance. It would have felt more grounded, a little more real, which is why I think you were like, well, I don't know if I believe her sometimes. I'm like, yeah, I think it's just like the accent wasn't,
Starting point is 00:08:39 like when you watch the crown, that accent with all of the crown actors, you're like, absolutely would never even believe that they would be American. The second they open their mouths, you're like, that's how they talk. This is how they were born. and they're not it just like she was still very good i forget her name the actress but um yeah i agree with you on that um okay what else is there well okay let me let me yeah you want me to pop it because
Starting point is 00:09:11 i was going to say i really like the special the special effects specifically what you were talking about between dumbledore and um and credence those effects were really really amazing. They were, it just went from, like, feeling very magical to, like, very realistic and then, like, kind of, like, sad. And I, I felt the same with the effects when Grindavold and Dumbledore were fighting, you know, it's a cool one fight there. That was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:09:46 We got the action there. But I think, you know, in the end, when Tina walks up and you can literally feel the chemistry through the screen with her and Newt and I'm just like oh remember I mean that's like a thing that we both brought up from all the
Starting point is 00:10:03 movies like we really like it when they're on screen together like give us more scenes of them and that was like all we got I do really like the twist and reveal of comma turning around throwing down his wand and like 30 people
Starting point is 00:10:21 are just like dead and they're like took you long enough and they just walk off like he he is not a traitor he was always on their team and i like that and i really like that the assistant bunky or whatever her name was that she was the one that had chilling uh and i i kind of felt that coming um i thought that was a really fun move she got more of a highlight in this film which i liked um And at the end, when you were like, I'm confused, Dumbledore said, I'm protecting, and he is trying to destroy. So the reason that it worked, they're not trying to destroy each other, right? So then that thing broke. But then he said so that we can both carry out our destinies.
Starting point is 00:11:15 So, and we know that Grendevald does carry out a destiny, and so does Dumbledore. It was sort of like we needed to break that chain so that in the future, if it needed to come to that, it could. Obviously, we needed that thing to break. It did cool. But Dumbledore didn't seem too worried about him saying, now we can both carry out our destinies, meaning him and Grendevald. Like, he's not dead. He just disappeared over the thing. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:11:49 The film was pushed back. J.K. Rowling had a co-writer on this. It was pushed back after the negative critical reception of the previous film to give J.K. Rowling more time to fine-tune the script. And then COVID-19 pandemic pushed the film back even further. Oh. And Steve Kloves, original screenwriter of most of the Harry Potter movies, returned to help J.K. Rowling write this one.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Okay. And, yeah, that thing with Johnny Depp. That's wild. We have to read that. It says Johnny Depp filmed one scene before he was asked to depart. And according to various media reports, because of his pay-or-play contract, he received his full pay of $16 million. That's wild. Well, here's my overall assessment.
Starting point is 00:12:43 and I will do this as politely as possible. I think that this film out of the three is strangely the most straightforward and most focused one out of the three. Very linear, easy to keep up with. And yeah, I would say it's definitely the most focused one of them all. I would also say it is the least interesting one of the three. I think this is the weakest one of the fantastic beast films. Can't imagine that's a popular opinion. I bet, let's just get it out of the way.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I bet if we went to Rotten Tomatoes secret of dumplings. You guess and then I'll guess. I'm going to guess that critic score was 69 and audience score was 71? I'll say the same thing. but yeah I bet it's higher than crimes are good at wall okay so 83% audience score I have only 2,500
Starting point is 00:13:51 reviews so 46% grade score is bad um yeah I think it's higher than it's both are higher than crimes are grinds or wall I think crimes are going to wall is a better movie than this
Starting point is 00:14:04 this was a little boring I was a little bored and I think boring is the greatest insult you can do to a movie. I would say boring or annoying. At least annoying makes you feel a little bit more. This was, I got a time I really felt something was when I was worried Kowalski's going to die
Starting point is 00:14:27 and I had some chuckles at certain points. Yeah, of course. And then little bits would come in where I'm more interested than not. And there were certain scenes where I would definitely be a little. And I wasn't like ragging on this movie when we were watching it. I was trying to give it a chance. the whole way through um there's several aspects and components that i think contribute to this i think there's a lot of missed opportunities i think the relationships in this movie feel a little bit
Starting point is 00:14:55 empty we can start with dumbledore and grendelwald not that they have a much of screen time together but part of the appeal is that these two are former lovers two sides of the same coin and yet it amounts to like nothing it doesn't feel like there's anything tragic about this it's just a straightforward good guy bad guy all of a sudden but missing the layers and the nuance yeah i agree all we got was really the hand of the heart the hand of the heart boom boom and that was supposed to feed us as the audience of going maybe love was it was there it maybe still is and then that's it you want to feel the conflict of the situation you want to feel the tear for a movie called secrets of dumbledore yeah granted i know that's a surname it's not called secrets of albis
Starting point is 00:15:52 it's called dumbledore so it's about the dumbledore family and so you got like the credence the abhor the albis i still feel like we didn't really get to know these people that much well more we didn't like we learned some facts is what happened we we don't really get to know them as people and i think they've totally missed an opportunity with having jude law and both of these movies as dumbledore an opportunity to to get to truly see a different side of albus dumbledore agreed and they don't lean into it that's what i would say about almost everything in this film is they don't lean into something and whenever there's an opportunity to whether it be the political machinations of what Grindelwald is doing and watching the support and the
Starting point is 00:16:51 uprising of this criminal rising and political power it's one of the more interesting parts of the film but it's not really explored and like the again like the romance the tragic romance of this for this love that they cannot have is not they don't lean into that no they just mention it that's it we don't lean into backstory credence i feel like has had the same goddamn lines of dialogue three movies in a row he's the most interesting in the first one but the second of one and this one like it's the same fucking lines it's the same like i'm alone yeah i think edmundner actually does a good job with the very weak material that he's given um there's no real like wonder to that's what the harry potter
Starting point is 00:17:45 thrives on is there's no wonder despite visual effects despite world building and you know i appreciate the uh the explanation of what happened to their sister maria of course that was a great little plot that i went oh wow okay that's sad got it but we that's another missed opportunity i feel they don't mean into it exactly because we need we could have felt more how a dumbledore felt yeah something that he's haunted by maybe that leads to something with his brother and them coming to some type of yeah i don't know fucking do something i'm pitching ran shit off the top of my head right now right like do something with it to to make it cathartic or emotionally rewarding and even when it came to like queenie was so one note in this
Starting point is 00:18:37 two um and and it's just a repetitive from the whole thing with like her and kowalski it there was it was so like bland i thought this was the most bland experience of the three and i i think um i think dumbledore it's like a really high audience score is it's the highest audience score so i know i'm not doing myself any favors i know i'm opening myself up here to get ripped apart by you guys i got to be honest though it really did feel like mundane even the finale which i thought was the best part of the film yeah somehow just felt like so non um what's the word i'm looking for climatic yeah it was weirdly felt like anti climatic and then whenever they were having like victories and the briefcase stuff they didn't feel like there was a real
Starting point is 00:19:35 urgency to what was happening it didn't feel like there was suspense and i thought sometimes people mistake slow for tension and i was so sometimes in a lot of the first hour it was just slow and not tension filled right where i think like crimes of grundlewald's first hour is great i think it's a really great that first hour yeah it is and um the strength in this movie lies at the end we just Nation, if you haven't heard, I'm going to tell you about a little thing that's been part of my routine these past couple months. Oh, dry neck to spill. Hewle, H-U-E-L.
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Starting point is 00:24:09 up an umbrella. Maybe. Or it's another one. It's based on a book and that movie's so good. And I always, I always want to compare it. And I go, oh, it's like that move that they're doing. Anyhow, I thought it was going to feel more like that. I wish I knew the name of the movie.
Starting point is 00:24:26 you guys will leave it in the comments that gives you that suspense to when it's revealed when all those suitcases come together when all the freaking umbrellas go up and you're like oh snap this is what we're doing um that it didn't feel that way like you're saying it could have been more suspenseful and i'm like yeah you kind of agree like i thought i don't know that that maybe it would have felt that way i think they went more for a little bit of suspense and a little bit more fun was it fun the only fun part was when he goes hey guy they met fun like with koalski i like the lobster bit was fun that was fun sure um yeah i i don't it was okay so it was fine yeah i don't um i don't
Starting point is 00:25:15 think that it was uh it was an exciting it wasn't exciting there was no suspense there's no real like the conflict felt like there's no the stakes weirdly were felt there was no urgency I thought this was the most disappointing one
Starting point is 00:25:34 and it's called the secrets of Dumbledore so you're kind of giving yourself a grand opportunity now to really like tether the movie to the Harry Potter franchise like be the one that really pieces it together or do something like I have no I had zero expectations of what this movie
Starting point is 00:25:50 quote unquote should do I don't have an explanation of what it should do other than, you know, generate emotion. And I don't think it generated, I don't feel like it generated emotion. If you really look back on the experience, so much of the movie is kind of straightforward. Then this happens. And then this happens. And then this happens. But you don't really see, like, characters react or grow from the previous scenes or something like that.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Outside of, like, some plot beats that they do with, like, credence eventually turns on um uh grindelwald uh the dad the credence dad does eventually come back but it's all kind of like shit that they do half baked everything is half is like it's such an undercooked movie and i feel like there's no zest or passion in the writing but especially the overall directing i really feel like david yates after doing five six seven, eight, nine. I mean, he's, this is like his seventh Harry Potter movie. I'm pretty sure he was like bored out of his fucking lima at this point of like, I only do these now and I do nothing else.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I bet he was bored. Like it feels like there's, it's, it's, they're just get there. It's like they're just wrapping it up. Like, screw it. Yeah. We got to end it. So let's just end this goddamn thing. Yeah, except for the, the Grindwald and, sorry for Dumbledore and Creed scene.
Starting point is 00:27:21 like that was like cool but the rest of it i feel like it is a little was a little more on the basic side of like being predictable with shots or maybe where it's going um plot wise yeah uh i wasn't a fan of this one yeah i actually i think i do think this is the weakest one because almost every single scene outside of like sometimes you have like a good line here or there moment but like all the stuff with uh what's the dude's name who was the spy comma yeah comma i don't know i didn't even i didn't give a shit about him the whole time no and and also like the thing with with um newt and his brother the only thing they gave us was like the scene where he he gets him he escapes and it's supposed to be funny and i'm sort of like i don't know is
Starting point is 00:28:16 it supposed to be meant for kids it would make like kids laugh i laughed a little bit because he was like looking silly with his hip and he was like looking silly with his hip and But I thought that was like an opportunity for Newton and his brother to really connect. And the only what they gave us was that he grabs onto the tie. They stand up and they're holding hands. Yeah. And that's it. But I'm like, oh, but couldn't we have gotten a little more with that relationship of like, hey, you know, just so you know, I'll love you.
Starting point is 00:28:48 You know, you're my brother. I don't know anything like and and you know what I think Tina's a good choice for you I don't know just like literally a little bit of juice there right even the political stuff this whole thing with Santos I'm like I don't know what Santos stands for yeah no we never got to that there's like this whole moment where Santos is the one who the thing bows down to and I'm like okay I don't know who this is yeah we didn't know why yeah I maybe there's There's like a line or two about it, but I'm like, explore something. There's not. I know this movie had some problems, especially because of Johnny Depp at the time. Like when you lose your actor, you go through some crazy stuff and you got a pandemic and then you had an add on money. Then you might have to be rushed to shoot.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Yeah. I bet there's like a whole world of problems that arose from this movie being in development. So yeah, I can see that. But I'm like skimming this movie trying to find specific. Also, they missed out where I was like, are they set? it up to where Bunky likes Alber Froth. What's his name? She likes the brother.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Remember? Because when they're going to eat or whatever, she's like, it's really good. Or she says like, bye to him. And I'm like, oh, they're setting up for Bunky and the brother to like maybe flirt. But then nothing came of that. Maybe they were planning on a fourth one. I don't know. Tara Craves comedy and romance.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I do. No, but they are, that was a fair, that was an obvious setup. Like, where's the 40? Fight me in the freaking comments. If you didn't think that one scene, what Bunky says to him, I'm like, she likes him. She's the only one I turns around and says something to him. And you saw me. I called it out.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I was like, she likes him. Yeah. Because you could just tell. Yeah, I think it's there. Yeah, I mean, something seemed off to me. The moment where I really felt like something was off was the moment when, um, the brother was in that too like why was he taking why didn't we just go on the adventure right away what are you talking about why didn't we just constantly interrupt with the new thought i know
Starting point is 00:30:59 i know i know i know you finish your thought first i don't even know what you're talking about now what you're talking about because you were talking about the brother and i was saying why did we have i was thinking in my head why did we have to have the brother be taken and we couldn't just go on the adventure of confusing Grendelwald. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that was a hump, right? We didn't really... It was a hump.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Well, okay, so when the brother was taken, I didn't feel from Newt, like, wanting to be like, no, let me try to go get my brother or fight back against it. And even if it, you could totally do exactly the same thing where he gets taken away and he's convinced, but like, where's the stakes in the brother being taken? Like, no, no, I got to go saving that. No, you can't, dude. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Some fucking cliche at Hollywood. a dialogue but you know but but something that creates like like ah fear in the situation and uh they they don't they don't do it um this whole french this this particular trilogy has been a lot of like you know cool ideas and some additional expansion on harry potter world but each one has had like its own unique set of like weird flaws i think I think Grindlewall, I think Crimes and Grindlewall is probably my favorite one, which is odd for me to say. That's probably my favorite one of the three. This is my least favorite one for sure, though, after experience them all in this particular order.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah, I think like you got Mads Mikkelson here is Grindlewald. And this is like the time where you should really be seeing how he's influencing the world and coming into power. Yeah. But he's kind of like barely doing shit in this movie. He's barely doing anything. he like mainly messes around with the animal and outside of that he doesn't do much and uh then he's in this position of power where the world's like cheering for him when he's nominated and i'm like what's going on right now how do we get here without any real thriving happening yeah i agree because
Starting point is 00:33:01 they set it up to where the guy went well then once the the chill and bows to him the people will revolt is what we were thinking right and then i was a little bit confused and the fireworks were setting off but then they still cheered once Santos was chosen so I was a little confused by that yeah that was a little not straight I'm surprised that a producer or something didn't go I think that they should maybe revolt and then the chill is revealed and then it would make it even stronger for Santos of like yay the right one is chosen yeah I think this movie lacks an emotion when it comes to things that happen like when Dumbledore is saying
Starting point is 00:33:43 hey when they show up at hogwarts and then one's like it's actually worse than when it started here's what's happened they're going to let him be nominated and he's part of all crimes there's no like reaction from people it's it's like another another thing oh that's a bummer it's how everything kind of goes in this it's like it's too bad it's such uh no affect and uh yeah i was pretty disappointed by this one kind of a lot yeah lacked I think an urgency, you know, and in the pacing, but I think that there were, I really like that we got to find out, you know, Credence's background with his sister. It's sad about Dumbledore, like, killing his sister. And you're like, oh, wow, it's sweet that Creedence gets to go home with his dad. His dad goes, let's go home. You know, like obviously he's going to die at home. Cool. I like that the accountant, and I already said that, or the assistant lady brought the chill in. I like that that was her reveal.
Starting point is 00:34:49 And I like, you know, the ending of Dumbledore just sort of looking over them when Queenie and Kowalski are getting married as though he's just sort of looking over his children, living a good life. And the end of the movie is where New, there's some quote about, them saying the simplicity of life sort of without the drama, maybe that's why it is good, right? The simplicity, the boringness of this, what it is now is good, even though it's just very simple compared to what their wizarding world would be.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And I thought that that was a sweet thing for them to discuss and to say, I thought that was a nice note to leave us on with the movie. But I think that even that line and them getting married and them saying the simplicity in life, that's what makes it worth it, should have hit the heart a little harder if we had spent a little more time, I think, with the characters and a less on, like, moving that plot or getting fights in there or whatnot. Yeah. I think there was just a little too.
Starting point is 00:36:08 too many plot points in order for us to really go one way or the other, right? With either Dumbledore and Grendevold or we have Dumbledore and his brother, we could have taken a little more time. There's options there that I don't know why we needed the brother to get stolen and us to go save him. I think maybe if we didn't have that and the brother just helped us go on this adventure, on the adventure, we could have dive more into the characters. and how Grendevald and Dumbledore loved each other and what was that about?
Starting point is 00:36:44 And what's the deal with Tina and and... Why was she in this fucking room? And why doesn't the brother ask him? Where's Tina? Can we get into that, right? He's an orer of the American Ministry of Magic. I know, but that's all we got. The beginning of the movie and then she pops up at the end.
Starting point is 00:36:59 That's it. Yeah, I don't know what happened. I couldn't find an IMDB of why she wasn't. Anyway, like these Rotten Tomatoes critics, I'm agreeing with like all them, the ones who don't like it. And there's two that are stacked here that I'm like, yep, the two stacked here are the exact consensus. So I'll just quote them. Javier Ocana says the first five minutes are the only ones that may have something like a motion.
Starting point is 00:37:24 The rest are clean, stillborn images. There's nothing behind them. And then Josh Parham says overall, the screenplay feels like it has a more focused goal than previous pursuits, but the enterprise is still lifeless and tedious. is those two say exactly what I was trying to say with the one I was saying like here's my overall thought on the experience yeah that's exactly what you said yeah um but hey what do you guys think I think we read the only fun facts right yeah we did there's not yeah the Johnny Depp one's in wild he did one scene he got big 16 million bucks
Starting point is 00:37:59 yeah amazing yeah amazing Amber all right guys well what do you think It's sad. It's a bummer. It's a bummer. You do the whole franchise and then Harry Potter's. Those movies were miraculous. Maybe we should have you. Do they, did someone like, can you watch Harry Potter and the cursed child?
Starting point is 00:38:22 Because it's out here at the Pantages. Oh, really? But I don't know if, I don't know if we could watch it online. Oh, that would be fun. You can't watch it. I bet you we would be on. Someone uploaded it. The full play.
Starting point is 00:38:41 But there are Broadway channels that they might be streaming it on. We might have to look that up or you guys can leave it in the comments. I know there's a Broadway channel that plays online stuff. Yeah. This is a pretty good recording. That's pretty clear. No, we want something as like. Full two hours.
Starting point is 00:39:00 We want something as professional with like, you know, cameras and stuff. Like when people capture. Yeah, I know you're talking about. I know. capture play yeah but yeah that would be cool if uh i would love to watch that for sure if we can i mean that'd be fun if we can find that that would be sweet yeah anyway um i'm sad i'm not angry anymore but i'm sad yeah that this uh is how we're ending the harry potter franchise right now that's i'm just always just going to remember the end of harry potter these movies don't mean as much to me
Starting point is 00:39:32 I really do like Eddie Redmayne. And again, I've already stated that all the actors here, I love them. There are certain scenes that I really do love. There are some effects and scenes that I think, you know, hit home the way they should. But overall, in my brain, what I'm going to hold the closest to my heart are the Harry Potter movies. And this just doesn't surpass them in any way, shape, or form. Not because of the actors, I think more. because of this the story we didn't we just didn't get there so the main theory is that
Starting point is 00:40:08 katherine waterson was outspoken towards jk row rallying's abuse as many people involved in the harry potter movies have been yeah um so she might have said you only get that one scene let's not have her on set yeah but no one really knows the full thing but something happened something definitely happened like well you're going to get ridden down now yeah something a thousand for you don't she went to detention the fucking main character's love interest who's a main character the first who's suddenly barely in this film like now some shit happened and then they had a contractual obligation to keep her around um all right well thank you guys anyway for being on this journey with us and hopefully to those that we uh that did love this movie or liked it by no means want to strip you from that i'm glad you did and i wish we felt the same as you Anyway, peace and love

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