The Reel Rejects - FANTASTIC FOUR: FIRST STEPS SPOILER TALK!! Ending, Post-Credits, Avengers: Doomsday Setups & MORE!

Episode Date: July 27, 2025

MARVEL'S FIRST FAMILY JOINS THE MCU!! Support The Channel By Grabbing Our Superman Inspired Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Fantastic Four: First Steps Spoiler Review! Greg Alba, Roxy St...riar, & Aaron Alexander UNITE to discuss all the biggest spoilers and reveals in the MCU's latest cinematic offering! Join us for an exciting live stream discussion of Fantastic Four: First Steps, directed by Matt Shakman. This highly anticipated MCU reboot introduces a fresh take on Marvel’s First Family. Pedro Pascal stars as Reed Richards / Mr. Fantastic, Vanessa Kirby as Sue Storm / Invisible Woman, Joseph Quinn as Johnny Storm / Human Torch, and Ebon Moss-Bachrach as Ben Grimm / The Thing. The film also features Julia Garner as the Silver Surfer, Ralph Ineson as the menacing Galactus, and more! In this spoiler-filled discussion, Greg, Roxy, & Aaron dive into the movie's key moments, character arcs, Easter eggs, and what it means for the future of the MCU. Don’t miss out on this breakdown! Follow Aaron On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealaaronalexander/?hl=en Follow Roxy Striar YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@TheWhirlGirls Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/roxystriar/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/roxystriar Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No Frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC Optimum Points on your first five orders. Shop now at NoFriills.ca. Sure. Okay, I'm going to go live now, is that cool? Yeah. Should be on the playback, we're probably here on the playback. It says we are live.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Yo. It says we're live. Hello, four. And we just need you guys in the chat to tell us if you can hear us. Then we can, I can't hear me on here, what's going on? Yeah, if we're able to, if you could just tell us in the chat if you can hear us.
Starting point is 00:01:00 And then we can kick this stream off perfectly. Hi, movie scenes, I see you. Thanks John. Just let us know. You can see and hear us. Okay, perfect. Perfect, thanks John for helping set us up. John will not be here with the stream with us today
Starting point is 00:01:18 because he has John the short straw to do the reaction for us today for fantastic four but anyway guys here we are Aaron's first time doing a spoiler talk with us with a movie Roxy coming back after we did our non spoiler review of course by popular demand popular demand I was like Roxy please join us please I was really happy you can make it work. Yeah, me too. Our last live stream that we did, guys, that went on for like five hours.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Roxy, five and a half or something? Roxy, we were here for like four and a half, five? Yeah, I was here for a long time. You were here for most of it, yeah. Koi left real quick. Because we don't end a stream until we go through every single Super Chat. You guys were so generous.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Yeah, that was cool. You submitted so many Super super chats. You kept us live for such a long time. Really appreciate it. Also, if you are here, it would really help if you guys leave a like on this video. It helps with the playback on these. Our algorithm for real rejects is not used to live stream. So, you know, we want to do more of these. And with that, we have to show that like our audience is responding well to them. So you could leave a like that would be very much appreciated. I want to say thank you to everyone who's bought our new Reject Nation shop tees by the way for fantastic for first steps and I've been plugging them quite a bit and yeah so we have um a lot to go through there's a lot to talk about
Starting point is 00:02:39 and we haven't had Aaron's opinion yet uh I know that we already have like a Streamlab in here and I wanna make sure that we get to all those, but let's get some opinions going in here. Aaron, I haven't heard, we haven't heard your opinions yet. How are you, how did you feel about the movie? Oh man, I really, really, really liked it. I had such a great time with it. It was so comic booky in all the right ways.
Starting point is 00:03:02 I thought the cast had an amazing sense of chemistry with one another. I really bought the stakes that they planted. And I think that the fact that the story was so simple in its narrative. I thought the narrative was so simple it allowed room for the characters to really explore their dynamics
Starting point is 00:03:19 and the weight of the situation. And I feel like coupled with the external stuff with the MCU Not knowing what's gonna happen to them after this film. They're gonna be in doomsday next I felt was a little bit of a double-edged sword because in one hand we're like well We know they're gonna be eventually merged into the larger MCU But on the other hand some of the news are surrounding it Maybe took away some from some of the internal stakes specifically in the third act of the news or surrounding it maybe took away some from some of the internal stakes, specifically in the third act of the movie revolving,
Starting point is 00:03:48 this is a spoiler, I'm just gonna speak openly. Yeah, when Sue Storm dies, we're like, oh, she's not really dead, because she saw the chairs. But the fact that this is gonna be joining the other stuff, we're like, okay, Galactus could really eat this world, or they could really be off, and I think there's a little bit of maybe misdirection with that post-credits scene in Thunderbolts
Starting point is 00:04:10 because we saw the ship coming to the main MCU. So like, okay, maybe they don't survive this situation or the Earth doesn't survive. But I really enjoy the fact that there was a sense of unity when it came to at least attempting to defeat Galactus. And I really enjoyed the fact that, you know, this is Pedro Pascal's first entry into the MCU, and I felt like he did a great job with Reed Richards.
Starting point is 00:04:36 I felt like he really captured that smart, not necessarily emotionally intelligent, but loved his family, loved his wife, and I feel like them bringing in someone like Franklin really added to the fact that this was a family. I thought that was a stroke of genius because them all uniting to save this little baby, like save, like makes them uncles.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It really unites Sue and Reed, or maybe even causes some sense of division between them in their relationship, and I really dug it. Yeah, so I say that's what I have to say for now. I have more thoughts to build upon, but in short, I really enjoyed it. Yeah. Roxy, real quick.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Yeah. How many times have you seen it? Only one. And I've still only seen Superman once, so. Wow, that's a shock. I know. I'm behind only seen Superman once, so. Wow, that's a shock. I know. I'm behind on my repeat viewing, man. Was there anything in our non-spoiler review
Starting point is 00:05:30 that you felt that you wish you could've elaborated a little bit more on, but you knew it might've been spoiler territory that you might wanna share with us? That's interesting. You know, I feel like there's actually, this is kind of a crazy sentence, but there's not that many spoilers in this movie because of what you just addressed,
Starting point is 00:05:48 which is like, the second that we finished, I guess this is the thing that I was thinking about, I turned to you, Greg, and I said, was there a single second in which you thought that Sue might actually be gone? And you were like, no, of course not. And I was like, yeah, me neither. So they did hold on that for a really long time, but then I was thinking about the fact that you were like, no, of course not. And I was like, yeah, me neither. So they did hold on that for a really long time.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But then I was thinking about the fact that you told me, I don't wanna reveal who, because I'll leave that for their own review, but somebody you were near was bawling during that and really thought that she might be gone. So maybe it's just because we're so in this world, we do remember Thunderbolts just watched it. We know the Fantastic Four, we know the comic books,
Starting point is 00:06:29 we know we're not gonna kill off what I consider to be the glue, even though apparently the glue is the thing, but we know that she's not gonna go anywhere. But maybe for some people, especially maybe younger people or people who are not as familiar, maybe that really was higher stakes. In case anybody didn't watch the spoiler review, I also loved it, so it's not to say that it didn't work for me,
Starting point is 00:06:50 but just we really held for a long time on something that we all knew was up. I'll ask the big question. Do you know if you like Superman more or Fantastic Four more? I asked you that right after. I knew you were going to kill me. I asked you that right after. I knew you were gonna kill me. I know, but it's been a couple years. It's been a time to ruminate a little bit now.
Starting point is 00:07:08 So for context, you guys, I've seen Superman four times as a time of recording this. Why? Why have you seen it so many times? Well, I saw it twice with my girlfriend and then I saw it once with my friend and I wanted to see it in IMAX 3D, which here's a very limited showing to see it in IMAX 3D, which here's a very limited showing
Starting point is 00:07:26 to see it in both IMAX and 3D. And I can only go by myself during that time that was available, so yeah, that's why I've seen it so many times. Plus the movie's extremely rewatchable. I've only seen Fantastic Four once. When did you see it? I saw it on Thursday, so yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:40 a few days ago, opening night, yeah. What was the crowd like? What was the crowd like for Fantastic Four? Yeah, um, it was packed but not super responsive. It wasn't a lot of cheering. I think the most there was like some like I Don't know half sort of cheers for Nicole Kidman at the beginning, but I think everyone was very much locked in that's so sad Kidman got the most cheers of your Fantastic Four screening. Listen, when heartbreak feels good in a place like this, you have to participate. That's so upsetting, man.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Oh my god. But I don't think it was for lack of enjoyment, because I don't think Fantastic Four really is like one of those movies that has a lot of big crowd pleasing, like, oh my god, or like clapping moments. I mean, I guess technically, but not in an overt sense. I feel like Superman has that,
Starting point is 00:08:30 something like No Way Home or Infinity War has that, but I don't think it sort of garnered that same thing with this movie, at least with my audience. But to answer your question, after having seen both of them, I think I liked Fantastic Four more, or Superman. But only by a little bit, though. I feel like-
Starting point is 00:08:47 So can we expect you to see it four more times, at least? I haven't had the chance. I've been so busy, but I haven't had the chance to see Fantastic Four more, but I just think Fantastic Four is a more focused, tighter film, and I feel like I really like the fact that the world is, they firmly established the world that they inhabit and the dynamics in which they play into the world and how the world perceives them.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And I felt like Superman has a lot of great moments and it's still a very enjoyable film, but I feel like it's a little less focused in what it's trying to do. I feel like the second act of Superman is sort of a side quest to what we had established in the first act and the third act, having to go save crypto. And I feel like if we would have spent more time exploring what it means, the fact that Superman's parents were actually not good and how that affected him. And cuz we address it in the first act, we address it in the third act, but it's largely missing from the second act.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And I just felt like with Fantastic Four, there was some stuff that was obviously cut, that was in the trailers that I would have liked to have seen more of, but with Superman, there was some things I felt like I needed to see more of. Sure. Behind the scenes question for a second. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Don't we need to get him out of here? Yeah, I don't know why he's still right in here there's not supposed to be here for the spoilers I was like in the hallway if in case we needed you or something like that for a technique oh do you think that he's just he's screwed no I don't know no I don't know I don't know okay to me it was a common sense thing I don't know I don't understand all right well it looks like when I'm looking at the chat right now Okay, well to me it was a common sense thing. I don't know I don't understand All right. Well, it looks like when I'm looking at the chat right now here Let me see if you guys can you see I see that screen at all. No a little bit
Starting point is 00:10:31 Let me see if I could I got it. Yeah slightly turn it Roxy We're trying to show rocks to the chat you can if I could I don't know if I can scroll up Can I scroll up? I can most people in the chat? I can't read it. Do you know how blind I am? Most people in the chat seem to be in full profile for me? That's interesting most people in the chat seem to be saying Fantastic four that they prefer I'm seeing that a lot you know what I think's the weirdest comment though that I keep seeing What Roxy? Well, let me tell you guys What my room by myself?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Everybody keeps saying, anytime somebody's asking the question, do you prefer Superman or Fantastic Four, I keep getting these comments on our socials or wherever, and they're just like, why are you comparing the two? And it's like, Brody, the two biggest superhero movies of the last little bit dropped in the same month, right? They're both in theaters at the same time
Starting point is 00:11:28 It's a very normal question to ask which one did you prefer and the president have a lot in common if there was two action movies that were there was two Big horror movies that were out. It'd be normal to ask that question Like it's a very normal question for what you just asked. Yeah, which one do you prefer? I think especially because they're kind of similar. Yeah. I think they're very similar. Like restarting their universes and whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:49 It's just a normal-ass question. I didn't even dawn on me till I was watching the second time on the third act when it's time to save the city, they all like flee. They take everyone out of New York City. And at the end of Superman, they take everyone out of Metropolis so they can have their big giant battle. And they both have a black hole in the middle of the second yeah
Starting point is 00:12:06 I saw the universal IMAX okay and there's like two shots it's weird I know IMAX did you know there's like two I know we got some super chats in here I promise we will get to those in just a bit thank you to all who have already contributed really appreciate it there's so they have like an IMAX, they call it the full expanded IMAX ratio. And Marvel usually doesn't do that where they shoot, they shoot like a specialized IMAX camera but it doesn't take up the entire screen like Nolan does.
Starting point is 00:12:36 But there was like, there was like two minutes I think. Is that not much? There was just like a couple of galactic shots where it actually took up the entire screen. And it is worth watching on a proper IMAX just for that but like the whole silver surfer chase scene the whole all the galactic scenes and Just like huge it was massive It's really beautiful. I do think that this is Marvel's like best looking film by kind of a lot
Starting point is 00:12:59 It's your good seats. Oh, sorry. Did you get good seats? You got the middle center? Did you get good seats? Oh, sorry. Did you get good seats? He got the middle center, or always. God damn right. God damn right. Let's go, that's what I'm talking about. Is your answer the same, Greg, as it was in our spoiler
Starting point is 00:13:11 review, that you still prefer Superman? I can greatly acknowledge that this is a much smoother constructed movie, but emotionally I just felt more. You and I are the exact same. And Superman, yeah. Like Superman's much messier, but I don't know. I just, I you and I are the exact same and Superman. Yeah, like Mr. Man's much messier, but I I Don't know. I just I was like moved. So I was moved. That's what I'd say. I was moved more but I can Greatly acknowledge like this is composed better has a full feature film
Starting point is 00:13:38 Man more but you think that fantastic four is the better movie? Yeah, I would probably say it like that Yeah, it's kind of a weird thing Sounds like I'm trying to win both sides, but that's my honest opinion right now Yeah, that's a cool Glass that you're drinking. Oh, yeah, but I am see the thing the thing you mug. It's pretty awesome Yeah guys in the chat. What is your favorite part of the movie? What was your favorite sequence really want to know because I love that this movie doesn't need to have
Starting point is 00:14:07 You trying to move it? Till you can see it. Okay, but I'll also need to see you have no idea what you guys Can't read a single word here I got it I got it I got it I got it here I got it I got it I got it I got it I got it oh okay all right sweet great can you still see it I hope I can I think so I don't think I can read it anymore still wow I'm so blind is this where it was last time no no okay why no I'm happy we can all see it. I can't see it. You can't see it?
Starting point is 00:14:47 No, I'm like, truly. Oh yeah, the angle's a little wonky. Basically, we have a second monitor with your guys' chat on screen, and Rox is having a hard time seeing it, even though she is undoubtedly the closest one to the monitor. No, but I'm, look at how I'm having to look.
Starting point is 00:15:02 You should still be able to see. You should get glasses. You really should. I understand what you're saying your look. You should still be able to see. You should get glasses. You really should. I understand what you're saying, Rotsy. You should get glasses, everybody ever. You should also put that mic closer to you. Not what I'm complaining. Maybe we could do some binoculars.
Starting point is 00:15:13 All right, wait guys, I gotta do something cool that was brought to my attention. What was it? What was it? By who? One second. We had a person send in a very generous stream lab. I can't see it. It's like your face. It's a very generous stream lab. I can't see it. It's like your face.
Starting point is 00:15:25 It's a $500 stream lab. He did this before we went live. Just showing love in advance, no need to mention. I'm gonna guess this is user Chris Whamoff, even though he's trying to remain anonymous here. That's incredibly generous though. All it says is just showing love in advance, no need to mention.
Starting point is 00:15:45 He literally has, we literally don't have to mention anything. No need to mention, and then what'd you do? And I mention it. You gotta shout it out, that's really fucking kind. Thank you so much, that is really, really generous. Holy shit. He also put a smiley face. That is really sweet.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I hope that's you, Chris. And if it's not, Chris, I hope you're not taking credit for this, Chris, if this is not not you because that would be messed up man That would be absolutely messed up You did that. I don't know. I don't know. Let's see here Okay, I Can see when I'm here? I want you to know a lot of people are okay so yeah, the main stuff that people are shouting out in the chat would have to be Sue and
Starting point is 00:16:23 Sue going up against Galactus in the Silver Surfer chase. Did you have a favorite scene in this, Aaron? Ooh, you know what's funny? Probably isn't one that most people would say. I really liked Sue's speech in front of the Baxter building while she's holding little Franklin. That's the number one scene that I've heard people like. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Okay, I haven't really heard the consensus. Yeah, people love that scene. You're with the people. I'm with the people, yes. You're a person of the Yeah. Okay, I haven't really heard the consensus. Yeah, people love that scene. You're with the people. I'm with the people, yes. You're a person of the people, Eric. I'm a man of the people. I loved it. No, I think that it's so unique.
Starting point is 00:16:52 And you know what's fun? I've heard some people say like, oh, it's like, it's good. Or like, it's just another Marvel movie, which makes me so mad. Because I'm like, this is so unique amongst the pantheon of Marvel films. It's the first one to really embrace,
Starting point is 00:17:06 one of the few to really embrace the comic book-y nature of what a fantastic world can be. But I really like that scene because it speaks to not only her responsibility to the world, but her responsibility to her family, her love for her family and her love of the world. Because, oh, what's the line? She says, like, I won't sacrifice my baby for this world,
Starting point is 00:17:30 but I won't sacrifice this world for my baby. And I love the fact that we had that moment, and you just don't really get to see mothers standing 10 toes down in front of a people, a crowd of people that formally loved her but now are angry with her because like, dude, you're gonna let us die because of your kid? Like, screw that kid, we wanna live.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Is that how you felt? What do you mean? Is that how you felt, screw that kid? When you were watching it, were you thinking that in your head? I wasn't saying screw that kid. I was saying the people were like, oh, you're gonna let us die because of one baby?
Starting point is 00:18:04 And were you thinking that was understandable, or how did that make you? I mean, I get it. I think it's a little cold, for sure. I think it's very cold. But people do desperate things and selfish things in times of great fear and potential tragedy. I really like the fact that this movie was able to explore how the world was responding
Starting point is 00:18:27 to the incoming thing of Galactus while keeping it within the Fantastic Four's perspective. I really dug that. I think that they showed on the news, people were chanting Galactus or something to that effect. And I like that even though they were the world's greatest heroes, they were trying to figure it out behind the scenes,
Starting point is 00:18:50 but they took the stand to address the people directly, not in front of a television, in front of their faces, ground level with them to talk about it. Her, with her baby, the things that people wanted her to sacrifice for the world, she stood there with her baby as a mother talking about, I'm gonna protect you, but I'm also gonna protect my family as well. I thought that was great.
Starting point is 00:19:13 What was your favorite scene? My favorite scene? Yeah, man, what? Oh, gosh, my favorite scene. Craig never gets asked questions back. He was so shocked, I was curious, your favorite scene. never get to ask questions back. You were so shocked I was curious your favorite scene. I mainly film with koi. He rarely has Favorite scene and this was what you said I'm not used to my favorite thing
Starting point is 00:19:37 There's my first time monitoring a stream like this and I'm doing the tech I think my favorite sequence is the chase with Silver Surfer. That's like just so cool. And then like both times I watch it, I was like, wow, this scene is absolutely beautiful. I think in terms of like an emotionality scene, this, the moment that tends to get to me both times,
Starting point is 00:20:02 it sounds so sad. It is when Reed and Sue are arguing after he's like, it's ethical if we get rid of the baby, you know? Like I kind of understand. And then Sue says to him, you being you hurts me. And that hits like on a personal note of like, oh God, I think all of us kind of know what it's like to feel that way when you're hurting someone you Love just by being you when you don't even it's just your own thoughts like you haven't even taken action
Starting point is 00:20:32 But you just had a thought and somehow it's hurting because they know you had the thought and I feel like that's That really drove I see a lot of Divide when it comes to Pedro's performance here a lot of people are still like I only see Pedro because I see a lot of um divide when it comes to Pedro's performance here A lot of people are still like I only see Pedro because I see Pedro Pascal and everything And I didn't realize the guy had three movies out right now. Oh, I was like, holy shit. Yeah. Okay, the guy isn't everything Yeah, he's having a little bit of a pr crisis right now for the first time ever He's dry humping Vanessa Kirby on every interview. He's certainly not he's just rubbing his crotch on her face Every interview not what's happening and Vanessa Kirby's like, do it. I'm pregnant. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:21:08 I hope that somebody sends in a question about this because I cannot wait to school people on this. But continue. Right? This is what's happening, Chad. There's a delay on the chat, so I'm wondering if they're gonna respond. Hopefully they'll send in a question and I'll tell you all the tea. But yeah, I think with Pedro in that moment, it's like, no, that's Reed Richards to me. That's the struggle. That's the hardship of Reed. It's just torture with all these thoughts.
Starting point is 00:21:36 And that process of, I've got to think about the worst things all the time, so that way I can prevent the worst things happening. But there is a torture, an inner turmoil to what that guy's going through. And I feel like a lot of, that's the moment he becomes relatable. I mean, I think he's relatable throughout,
Starting point is 00:21:50 but that's when it cements it for me personally. Do you have a favorite scene? I have a favorite moment. My favorite moment of the movie is tell Franklin that Uncle Johnny loves him. Because I think that that was more powerful and believable than Sue Storm passing. I really believed for a second that Johnny might have
Starting point is 00:22:17 to get sucked into where Galactus is going because it was very possible or plausible that part of what was next was going to recover Johnny, going to figure out, you know, he's there, this is what happened. And I love selfless characters, I love characters who believe in something bigger than themselves, and of course with Sue and with Reed, that's their kid. So of course she's gonna go out and say something
Starting point is 00:22:44 on stage to everybody, that's my child. So of course she's gonna go out and say something on stage to everybody, that's my child. Of course Reed's gonna wanna protect his child. But like Uncle Doody's, you don't expect the same level and he doesn't even think about it. He sees like, this is what I need to do. And I just thought that that moment was so powerful and the stakes were higher because I thought
Starting point is 00:23:03 genuinely anything could have happened to him. Yeah, good moments. Okay, before we hop into the, we got some super chats in here. I wanna get Aaron's opinion. And actually, no, we weren't able to talk about this because we were doing a non-spoiler. The mid-credit scene.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Ah, yes. Or the real post-credit scene. The Dr. Doom one. I didn't notice it until the second time I watch it like oh, yeah This is definitely shot by someone different and I learned it was a Russo brothers because you could tell aesthetically There's just like the camera looks different everything about it beyond it. Just updating some of the set design I gotta imagine that's their set on doomsday What did you think of?
Starting point is 00:23:41 I know you liked it Roxy, but no I want to hear more your let's's go sorry you Roxy well I'm trying to remember didn't you kind of have a little bit of an issue with this my one issue was it just looks so staged in the way when it's gonna camera turns over his mask is cheating and that's something that like because I'm aware of shooting that it looked it just didn't feel like I didn't feel like even Robert Downey Jr. was in the room didn't even like sell me for a second like this feels like a stand-in for Robert Downey jr. You know and so there was something that's when I said to my non-spoiler why how it felt like a little artificial because it looked like they planted someone in a doom costume and they're going to cheat the doom mask out but contextually coin I did like
Starting point is 00:24:22 a 30 minute video about all the theories that arose just from the fact that Franklin is interacting with Doom and touching his face because of what happens in the Fantastic Four comics and what happens in the Secret Wars comics. So I love the post-credit scene contextually and I love them. Seeing Joe Manganiello on a boat and then having that never be relevant ever again. Just this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:42 It's happened in both DC and Marvel probably equally, but same thing with Eternals, seeing Harry Styles, and then it's like, what? Or hearing Blade talk to Kit Harrington. Just, exactly, all of these things. So this is actually gonna happen. We know that this is actually coming to fruition. So the only thing that really ever bothers me
Starting point is 00:25:05 is when I see something that we never see it again and it's just like, so what was that? Like just so not thought through. So I like this, it's a tease. Can I interrupt you for one second? Yeah. John, are you around? Something tells me the stream's frozen.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Hmm, let me go look for him. Hold on, let me just call him. Calling time. One second. Oh, I need to get my phone charger so it's good timing. Oh, it's right here. Yeah! Plugged it in for you.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Yeah, you're a big dude. Plug it in, plug it in. Fresh and dandy. Hey, I don't think we have internet. Yeah, we definitely don't have internet. There's no internet. You so frozen. I mean, it says this site can't be found. I can't reload anything.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Mean it says this site can't be found. I can't reload anything See if the people See if the people are clamoring for us one sec guys shit, let me try to fix this The 33 watching now Sorry guys fix fixing this. John, I have Wi-Fi. Kind of. Wow, this is really bad. Oh my God. Oh my God, Becky. Do you have wifi?
Starting point is 00:26:58 Currently, yeah. It has a download speed. It's gonna be upload speed. It's the part where they don't have access to the control room. can you come over here for this one then because that's not the computer we're using can you come over here for this one because that's not the computer we're using yeah oh man we lost a little slipper Yeah, oh man, we have to get a little slipper for that corner over there.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Damn. It's fine, it's no one's fault. We are figuring it out. There's nothing that can be done other than what's being done. Would it be helpful, John, for everybody else to get off the WiFi? This shouldn't be happening.
Starting point is 00:27:38 This shouldn't matter. Okay. No, there's nothing connected. I wonder if it's a cobweb or a spiderweb. Are you downloading something? What's the difference between a cobweb and a spiderweb? A cobweb is a spiderweb that's been vacated. Oh.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah, so it's collecting dust, that's why it looks thicker. Turn the VPN off. Why is it the one computer we need to work is the only one that doesn't have internet access? I don't know. I've never encountered this before and I've done live stream tests mostly on this computer. Is it helpful for me to get up right now? We can... what we can try is we could restart the computer. Wait.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Your connection's coming back. See if it reconnects now. Wanna play? Your stream should still be intact and where do I go? Is that from somewhere? To see if we're live. Sure. Check, check. Oh, doi. I've not seen the checkies. It should just pick up where you left off
Starting point is 00:29:27 and there should just be a jump cut wherever you dropped out. Saying duplicate stream key. Are we back yet? I don't think we're back. No, I'm looking. Damn. Are we back yet? I don't think we're back. No, I'm looking. Damn. Wait, we might be now. No, no. Are we back? Can you guys see us? What's the connection like? I think they can see us. I think we're live. I think we're back. They're saying fantastic. Okay. Sorry about that guys.
Starting point is 00:30:14 If you're still here, please leave a like. We lost about like two to 300 viewers in that time. So if we can pick that back up, that would be amazing. And the stranger things finale will be going up tomorrow for those who are asking in the chat. Sorry guys, it seems like every week there's something that goes wrong with every one of these live streams and we're just trying to get it down to a perfect science.
Starting point is 00:30:34 So what was that? That's playing for you. Oh it is? Yeah. So I like this, it's a T. All right, cool. You looked at me like cut it out and you cut out, cool. You looked at me like, cut it out. And you cut out, sir.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Thanks. Let me just reload everything here. Can you guys help me fill this time while I'm trying to fix some tech stuff here? No, I think it's better if we sit quietly. Okay, sure. Yeah, 100%. Just meditate in it.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Oh, I had something that I wanted to talk about based on what you had said earlier that was actually my biggest qualm with the movie. Oh, okay. Let's get into it. I didn't, and I don't think this is fair to compare it to our world because it's not our world and whatnot,
Starting point is 00:31:16 but I thought that it was unrealistic for our world how little pushback there was against the Fantastic Four. Like the Fantastic Four are like, y'all get underground to survive. And don't you feel like if that was our world here, there would be so many people who are like, nah. You guys are wrong and we aren't gonna listen to you. You don't know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:31:40 You already messed up. You told us you were gonna be able to transport us and you weren't able to do that. We're not listening to you, you guys suck. And I feel like there was so little pushback. There was a couple of people who were like, yeah, give away your baby. But it didn't feel like the masses
Starting point is 00:31:54 were against the good guys. And I feel like in our current world, at least 50% of people would be like, screw the Fantastic Four, we should kill them all. We're not going anywhere. So that just didn't feel realistic to me, but maybe this is a better planet than ours. You know, because there's a lot of similarities
Starting point is 00:32:12 to our Earth, and I feel like, A lot. I don't know if this is, you know, 2025, but in a retro 60s era, or if this is the 60s, that's just retro, you know, futurized, but I feel like if it is the 60s era or this is the 60s that's just retro, you know, futurized, but I feel like if it is the 60s and this is how I sort of internally rationalized it, I feel like there's a general trust of the institutions.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Pull it up, pull it up, pull it up. I'm a tall man, y'all. I feel like there's a general trust of institutions and I feel like the Fantastic Four to establish themselves as Earth's defenders, not only as superheroes, as explorers, but also humanitarians, so I feel like- We have that here.
Starting point is 00:32:52 But like all three though? People don't give a shit. Yeah, we live in a very divisive age. Plus, they didn't have the internet, at least I don't think they did. We didn't see anybody on smartphones or anything. No, I think this one takes place in the 60s. Okay, yeah. Come on on guys, they can teleport,
Starting point is 00:33:06 but they have no way of communication. Like, they're definitely more technologically advanced than we were here in the 60s. I thought it was funny that they can teleport through space and through different dimensions, but Reed Richard still uses a chalkboard. Yeah, yeah, that is funny. Okay, going back to it, okay, promise, we're gonna get,
Starting point is 00:33:25 we know we have some super chats that we do wanna catch up on. Aaron, do you not get your mid-credits opinion? My mid-credit opinion, I was, I liked it, but I would be lying if I didn't say that I wasn't a little underwhelmed. I'm sort of conflicted on it, because I was underwhelmed because I had sadly
Starting point is 00:33:44 gotten spoiled on it like a few weeks agomed because I had sadly gotten spoiled on it like a few weeks ago, but I didn't know if it was real or not, so when I saw it I was like, oh, okay, this is the thing. But watching it and then thinking about it, I do like it because I feel like it continues that thing of this movie being self-contained. And even though it's technically a tease towards Doomsday,
Starting point is 00:34:06 Doctor Doom is a very specific villain to the Fantastic Four. So even in that teasing a larger universe, it still feels like it's teasing something that's just for the future of the four themselves. Plus the simplicity of it made me feel like this was something that would be done in a phase one movie of the MCU, like how they tease Loki at the end of Thor
Starting point is 00:34:27 or how at the end of Avengers, they tease Thanos for the first time. So that's sort of what this felt akin to for me. Like something they would follow through on because it was simple. Exactly, it was simple, it gets you excited for it. I don't know why Dr. Doom would have his mask off, but I'm like, okay, sure, I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:34:44 But yeah, overall, I was like, okay, sure, I'll take it. But yeah, overall it was like, okay, this is fun. But I just hope that with something like that, how protective she is over her baby, she died for her baby, that whatever we see is, I hope it's something more akin to how, I think it was Ant-Man that had the post-credit scene, you guys correct me if I'm wrong, that they showed the scene of Winter Soldier,
Starting point is 00:35:09 and then they picked back up on that. So I hope we see that scene in Doomsday, because we can't just cut from him with her baby, knowing how protective she is of her baby. Who is this random man trying to talk to my baby? So I hope we see whatever that scene progresses into in the actual movie. One second.
Starting point is 00:35:30 How are you feeling right now, Greg? I'm just, I think there's a delay here. I'm not sure. I can't quite tell what's going on here with the chat right now. Well, don't we have super chats to take? Well, I mean, I don't know. Are we still playing guy on the stream right now?
Starting point is 00:35:50 That's what I'm kind of worried about. I don't think we are. Like, you think that we're doing what? I can't tell if we're actually live. If you are live, you are playing. All right. It's just catching up to everything from before. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:36:03 John's not in the room, y'all, just so you know. Sure. I saw a comment saying avert your ears. I'm gonna try to get a little focus here, guys. Let's see here. Nope. Okay, yeah, they're saying we've seen you all along. You guys never left.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I can see. We never left. Plot twist. Interesting. Hold on, I'm fixing more things here. You're doing such a good job. Even though it says to you aw snap. Shout out to people in the chat right now.
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Starting point is 00:36:57 The 500 of you guys who are watching live right now, it's awesome to have you. And when Greg is less stressed, he will take back over. Yeah, I'm take back over. I can't figure out how that what's happening. Something's going wrong again. I have no idea what's happening. Shout out to Silver. Eugene Johnson. I don't know what's going on. Time stamp guy. Good thing we have a lot of people to shout out I don't know what I can't it's a snap on the screen this one RG 2088 tomorrow Lauren this one can you see us in real time it keeps going into times that I don't know where we are here I'll go like this and see when I can see this because definitely we're not in real time.
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Starting point is 00:38:22 All right, while we're fixing this, here, Aaron, take my phone. Well, you guys wanna answer some speed rounds from the live chat? Let's do it. That would be very helpful. Yes. Just respond to some comments in the live chat, please.
Starting point is 00:38:35 I feel like that's what I was doing. So you don't want me to go to any of the Super Chats? Nah, not yet. All right, so if you can hear us, ask us questions in the live chat, here we go. Let us know, y'all. OK, a lot of conversation about the 60s, because based on what you were talking about, Aaron,
Starting point is 00:38:52 is this the 60s of that universe, or is it really the same time period, but it's really like the 60s style? Seems like people have mixed thoughts on that. Silver says the 60s, whilst also having world leaders that have established world peace. that. Silver says the 60s whilst also having world leaders that have established world peace. Seven says it's the 60s, it's a valid reality back then. Adrian says the 60s, famously calm time historically.
Starting point is 00:39:16 So a lot of 60s talk. Let's see, what do you guys have for questions for us? Things you want us to talk about? Will McLean says is this stream in a pocket universe? Very fair question. It certainly feels that way, right? It does, it really, really does. All right, let's try this out.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Let's try this out. I wish I could show you guys, I always, when someone contributes to Super Chat, we like to show their name on screen. That does not seem like it's gonna happen for some of these today, I'm sorry. I just can't seem to solve why it's not actually. So we'll say their name.
Starting point is 00:39:47 See this little window here should be popping up at the bottom there for who are those watching back. But it does not seem to be doing that. So you said how's y'all's day going? Okay, that's good. It's going great. Appreciate that. Well, our first super chat that we got in today is from a person named C. Black.
Starting point is 00:40:08 He said, can we get three good MCU films in a row? Spider-Man. Because you guys liked Thunderbolts and this. Yeah. Spider-Man's next, right? Yeah. I think so. I really trust Dustin Daniel Cretton to really pull through. I like the fact that we've heard that it's gonna be street level. Very curious to see how they're going to include
Starting point is 00:40:32 the Punisher in that. And you know, we live in a time where, you know, we're in this new resurgence of superhero movies. This in and of itself is gonna be a secondary reboot of Spider-Man with him, the same Spider-Man. So I hope that this can be tried and true to that. So yeah, I'm hopeful. I feel like all the things that came before
Starting point is 00:40:55 were of the Chaypeck era. And now that we've kind of left that time, I feel like there's a lot more focus and a lot more intention now that they don't have the restrains of having to produce a lot of content consistently. So you think we will get three ones that are good? I believe so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I also like Dest and Daniel Cratten. I think that the Spider-Man movies have been great so far. I believe that this will be good. However, it is the one that I'm the most worried about of the Spidey movies so far. Because I was so invested, I'm such a lover of ship or ships and I was so invested in his relationship with Zendaya
Starting point is 00:41:34 that I am a little bummed that we're obviously gonna go in a different direction for at least a little bit, now that we have forgotten everything we once knew. And that doesn't mean that I won't like this movie and I'm excited about the addition of Sadie Sink and there's a lot of good things to look forward to. But I, yeah, I like building relationships and characters
Starting point is 00:41:57 and we're kind of starting a little bit from scratch. But I agree that I do think it will probably go three for three. Greg, what do you think, if you can answer? Yeah, I definitely think that Spider-Man will be a good movie, that's my answer for you guys. I definitely caught the tail end of what you guys were talking about there.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Exactly, you answered the question. I did answer the question, okay. One second. Nope, it is frozen. I thought we solved it, apparently not. It is completely A lot of second one second one second and stop talking there we go. Perfect. All right, we got it. It's not frozen right now Yeah, whoo. Hey
Starting point is 00:42:42 Hey, we got it. Look we finally got that question in there. Can we get three good MCU films in a row? Thank you see black swan shot your name see blood Ryan is saying Holy hell thank you for the super chat by the way That was a good movie probably the best-looking movie Marvel has ever made the Russos are cooking with these post-credit scenes, too Yeah, the Russo's directed the Thunderbolts post-credit scene as well. Oh, yeah, and it's I see the similarity in direction What do you think? Do you think this is the best looking Marvel movie that they've made? Or would you say, is there another Marvel movie
Starting point is 00:43:10 that you think, MCU, that tops the aesthetic and look of this? I personally think this is the best looking one they've ever made. I don't know about tops. I really like the way that all the Guardians movies looked. And I think that this looked great also. I love the look of the Spidey movies.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Yeah, I guess. I really love the look of this movie. It's been a minute, but I remember Eternals looking visually different than this movie, even though it doesn't get the greatest. That movie looked amazing. You're spot on with that, dude. That was so, so, who was it, Chloe Zhao? Yeah, Chloe Zhao. That movie looked amazing. You're spot on with that, dude. That was so, so, who was it, Chloe Zhao?
Starting point is 00:43:45 Yeah, Chloe Zhao. That movie looked unreal. Yeah, it's underrated. It feels very different from the other MCU movies. It's a shame that it kinda didn't get the love that it deserves. I think it would've made a better series than a movie, but that's neither here nor there.
Starting point is 00:43:59 I think this is definitely top tier of the visual ones. I think Black Panther 2 also looked really good. I think Brian Coogler really killed it. But yeah, I feel like for visual style alone, this kind of stands out as something unique and special in the MCU. You know a movie I love the way it looked that everybody else crapped on?
Starting point is 00:44:20 Which one? Quantum Manium. I thought it was unique. I thought that movie looked awesome. I thought it looked so good. Greg, this is your number one. Yeah, I think my second favorite actually would be Multiverse and Madness. Really? I thought Multiverse and Madness looked so cool. I thought there was a lot of cool pop.
Starting point is 00:44:34 It's not my favorite. It's not even top tier of my favorite Marvel movies. But I think in terms of look, it's probably my favorite one. Yeah. OK. I get that. I have a lot of grabs for that movie. Someone, Stephanie, you got the First Steps shirt one. Yeah. Okay, I get that. I have a lot of grabs for that movie.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Someone, Stephanie, you got the First Steps shirt. Thank you, see you in the chat. I see you in the chat. Thank you, Stephanie. Greg, you are too hotionly watch your channel to see you. I don't even know what that means. What? Hotionly? What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:45:01 Where are you looking? Where? Let me see, Greg, you are hoshenly? You're ocean. You're too hoshenly? What is hoshenly? I think they're calling you hot, something. You are too hottie on... Whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I don't know. I think you just wanted the common man. It's provocative though. It gets the people going. I thought it was, I was like, I was trying to figure out what insult Thought it was Hoshin Leo's like you were Hoshin Lee me C-black is back in here saying I never thought Loki would be the good guy and
Starting point is 00:45:46 RGJ would be the villain. I'm ready for Avengers Doomsday. Also bring on the X-Men. So does this movie excite you guys more based off of C Black's question? Does this movie excite you guys more for Avengers Doomsday? Did you guys have any doubts about Doomsday and did this probably put some of that to rest at all? This made me more excited to see the Fantastic Four. I think, you know what's funny,
Starting point is 00:46:04 this movie made me more excited for Doomsday. I think Thunderbolts also did, but I think the costuming for them made me a little worried because I think that just Sebastian Stan did not look good in that post-credits scene with that wig. But I'm both very excited and trepidatious of the volume of cast, but I trust the Russos because they have a great track record with the MCU
Starting point is 00:46:25 and so do Marcus McFeely, so fingers crossed. What about you, Rox? I just think that this made me more excited for the future of Marvel, period. And obviously that's relevant to Doomsday, but it's relevant for the next 10 years. I'm excited about these four characters, or I guess five characters moving forward.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I'm excited to see them interact with the people that we saw in Thunderbolts who I also enjoyed and also some of our OG Avengers and MCU characters. I'm excited that we seem to have direction and purpose. I'm excited that we have cool new villains to play with. And even the possibilities of Galactus being out there, and I loved Silver Surfer. She was, to me, just way,
Starting point is 00:47:09 I thought that she was gonna be really not a good character, and I just thought she was phenomenal. So everything about this made me feel like we're making the right choices to build a world that I want to pay attention to moving forward. How about you, Greg? Yeah, I've been really hesitant about Avengers Doomsday. I like, it's weird, whenever something comes out.
Starting point is 00:47:30 I know, I do your podcast clips. I get the reaction of like, oh, I'm excited. And then it's slowly followed by, oh, you know, I got my apprehensions. And especially now that I've been diving more into the Fantastic Four comics, like Secret Wars deals a lot with Do you guys know Secret Wars? Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:49 But but yeah go on Easiest way to explain it there's after incursion events doom tries to basically save things in his own doom way and he creates what people call battle world so he's kind of Like taking bits and pieces of different parts of the world and he kind of makes his own doom way, and he creates what people call battle worlds. So he's kind of like taking bits and pieces of different parts of the world, and he kind of makes his own weird amalgamation of of what he makes itself called God Emperor Doom. And that's the main crux of the Secret Wars comic. And I imagine that this is what some of the art that we saw leaked, right?
Starting point is 00:48:19 I believe so. I don't know if that art leak is real or not, but I fathom it to be. It would appear, though, that if you're doing Secret Wars, you are more than likely gonna be going to God Emperor Doom. So part of my apprehension is the fact that I think we'd be skipping over a lot. Like you even see in Fantastic Four that they keep it up close, the Latveria sign.
Starting point is 00:48:40 That way no one misses it. They want you to know, like there's a doom in this universe now on the second viewing I was asking myself is the doom that shows up in the post credit scene is that doom? Robert Downey jr. Zoom the doom from this Fantastic four universe because they keep talking about all the different villains that they're fighting and a lot of them are like low-level Tier villains and then one day they're fighting Galactus, but you'd kind of think that they would bring in they would they would reference Doctor Doom if they had fought him before or They might even call on Doctor Doom because in the comics when something is that desperate
Starting point is 00:49:15 Franklin and Doom often have to put their differences aside and work scientific mind together and in a situation like that if there is a Doctor Doom you would think that he would go to that Doctor Doom So I'm like is this. Doom from a different universe, the one that shows up and Franklin's touching him at the end? Regardless, I still feel like you kind of have to build it up a little bit, but I just thought they pull up this movie so well. And I love Thunderbolts that I feel like because my love for this. When Avengers Doomsday was first announced, Marvel was at a mid to low to mid point,
Starting point is 00:49:45 depending on who you talk to, right? Yeah. And I guess my excitement for this has come back because I love Thunderbolts. I love Fantastic Four. Highly doubt I won't enjoy Spider-Man Brand New Day. And because of that, I'm going, okay, well, Marvel must be like on the right track to making consistently great movies again. So that's what has me kind of turning the tide in my own opinion. But that's just my opinion. I think it is this universe's doom. And I feel like because they-
Starting point is 00:50:14 When you say this, which this? 828's universe's doom. Because yeah, they made a point of teasing him and then they showed him at the end. I think it's a trip that this doom waited eight years into Fantastic Four's career to do anything because the post-credit scene is four years after the movie. They've been in Fantastic Four for four years
Starting point is 00:50:32 when the movie starts. I'm like, damn, that's kinda crazy that we waited this long or their universe has waited this long before doom even shows up. But yeah, I think contextually you would have to make it this Fantastic Four's doom that would make the leap into jumping to other universes or collaborating with other universes.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Were you guys the, would you guys also have the thought that when Reed was talking about moving the Earth that it was gonna move accidentally to like another dimension so they can start the incursion thing? Or did you just think he was just gonna move it with a solar system?
Starting point is 00:51:11 What do you mean? Do you mean before we found out what ended up happening, which was that he didn't move it? You mean where did I think? Yeah, his plan was to move it like the egg. What did I think his plan was even though it didn't fall through? Exactly, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Oh. Well, he said what his plan was. You mean did I think it plan was, even though it didn't fall through? Exactly, yeah. Oh. Well, he said what his plan was. You mean, did I think it was gonna go wrong? Yeah, because when he said, oh, we're just gonna move the Earth, I was like, oh, okay. So, are we gonna move it to another point, we're gonna move it to another point in the galaxy
Starting point is 00:51:40 or in the universe, but part of me was like, oh, what if this is what happens? They moved their Earth to the MCU, and that's what triggers the incursions. Because the two are in the same space. I guess not because we saw their ship. So that would make me not have thought that. She's saying you saw the ship in Thunderbolts.
Starting point is 00:52:00 So that would mean that they didn't have. Like I think to me, sorry to cut you off. Your friend. It's that, yeah, I think Doom takes Franklin Richards and it becomes a hunt for Franklin. I think by the time we see Franklin again, he's gonna be even older than he is at the end of it. I think there'll be like a lot of time passage and I feel like Franklin and Doom will have formed
Starting point is 00:52:20 a father-son like dynamic by that point. Interesting. Yeah, so, because I think that's the only way Doom can really create the I mean, there's other ways But he I feel like that's how he'll create the reality that he's hoping to create which will lead in the secret wars You don't think our plot revolves around a four-year-old? Nope, not this time. Not this time, but I would be excited to but LA Let's continue this on. Thanks for springboarding that question there, buddy Chadwick Myers, where where you at buddy hope to explore Johnny's mentality he just wants to go back to space so much and then without hesitation tries
Starting point is 00:52:54 to make the sacrifice play seems like that might be something unsatisfied with life now Roxanne you said that he was your favorite. When the movie was done, Olivia said he was her favorite too. Olivia and I have so many similar opinions on shit. It's so funny. I wish that I could read the way she reads. Yeah, she's a fast reader. Man, I know, I'm so slow. Did you like Johnny Storm, Erin?
Starting point is 00:53:21 Did you believe the, for some reason, I'm not gonna run on anyone's parade because a lot of people consider Johnny their favorite There there was something that was kind of missing a bit of an accentuated punch for his arc for me there I felt like they could have driven home a few more things of I know the family kind of treats him like he's a dumbass But I watched the movie kind of showed that he was dumb Seemed like he was already like pretty much there. And then he got more there by the end. And I was sort of waiting. I guess there was some type of full art that I was kind of missing.
Starting point is 00:53:54 But I'm not sure what it was that I was craving. But that I still enjoy Joseph Quinn, though. I just think Joseph Quinn is such a charming actor. But what did you think about Johnny Storm in this? Do you agree with what Chad Chadwick is saying here? I really liked Johnny Storm in the movie. I don't think he was my standout favorite of the movie, but I think he had an important role.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And I feel like, I remember there was articles or whatnot talking about how he wasn't gonna be the womanizer that he was in the comics. And I remember, I believe you and Koi kind of expressed concerns about that going into the movie. Yeah. And I feel like they walked. I identify with womanizers.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Yeah. I am a Barney Stencil. But I think that they found an interesting line to walk with that. One, making it four years into their career, but also him still having a plot, revolving around his interest in women, but honing it in on the Silver Surfer specifically,
Starting point is 00:54:45 I thought was a fun way to satisfy that thing. But also continuing to make him a hothead, but a different way that Chris Evans was a hothead. He's more like eager and enthusiastic about, one being a hero, but also just wanting to participate. He was very spontaneous and then, I guess, sort of headstrong, but I think they did a really good job
Starting point is 00:55:09 of being able to satisfy that, while also kind of pushing him in a different direction. And I feel like because, within the scene where he's talking about how she was special or whatnot, I feel like subtextually what I picked up from that was, oh, he was this womanizer, but after four years of doing that,
Starting point is 00:55:28 maybe he's a little tired of that, so he wants something that's a little bit more real. So I feel like, okay, yeah, maybe we can have our cake and eat it too, but I think they, in short, did a really great job with Johnny. Yeah, we got Ron's opinion ready. We don't need more.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Do you disagree with that? No, I disagree with what? Oh, that he was a womanizer at one point in this universe. Oh, I don't know. We don't know. But I think that this is interesting that they think that there's something he's longing for. I think that's kind of the point.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And also, Greg, possibly why this character didn't connect much with you. Like, you have a wife and like a life. And you're the boss and you're not ever overlooked. And I don't mean that in a bad way, I mean that in a, I think that the read stuff really connected with you for very specific reasons. Because I'm the smartest man in the room at all times?
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah, you're a very smart person, but I think for a lot of different reasons. Very sincere yes and no, very sarcastic comment. No, I think you are very, very smart, but also I think that that character would kind of connect with you, because he's the leader, and you're often looked to that way.
Starting point is 00:56:45 The Johnny arc is somebody who, he doesn't have as much of a place here. He wasn't chosen, he happens to be the brother. His skillset is completely overlooked constantly, even though he is really smart, and he does have good ideas, and he is a selfless, kind person who is there for his family,
Starting point is 00:57:03 but he also is interested in possibly the villain, which means that his taste is funky to say the least, and I think that he's trying to figure it out, and I think that that's the purpose. I don't think that it was a missing an arc. I think that he just might not resonate as much with people who are more satisfied in their life or have more of a traditional situation going on.
Starting point is 00:57:27 I think that he was really truly, he's trying. No character is trying harder in this movie than Johnny is. He's trying to prove himself. He's trying to show everybody that he's worth the place on the team. He's trying to show everybody he's not an idiot. He's trying to maybe perhaps he was a womanizer and show he's changed or maybe it's just that
Starting point is 00:57:45 he's trying to find somebody that does work for him. Like this mofo is trying. And that was really, really relatable to me. Awesome, awesome. You might have turned the tide on my opinion there. Well, that's not, your opinion's so valid. He just isn't your character. Oh, I'd rather be, I like when someone enlightens me That's not, your opinion's so valid. He just isn't your character.
Starting point is 00:58:09 I'd rather be, I like when someone enlightens me with their opinion and I'm like, oh, I never looked at it that way. And it can often, and I see it, there's this YouTube channel I love called FilmSpeak. They do amazing video essays. It often happens with me in a lot of his videos where I'm like, I did not like that movie. Oh, maybe I like that movie.
Starting point is 00:58:26 It's usually him is the one that kind of does the trick. But thanks for that question there. Dave, Davion Lucas, is that how you say it? I really love this movie, but something I was surprised about is how many people love Mole Man, didn't care for him as much, but something I was surprised about is how many people loved Mole Man, didn't care for him as much, but maybe I missed some. This was one of our disagreements too.
Starting point is 00:58:50 And is that I didn't love him. I didn't disagree with you. I thought you loved him. No, I. No, that was coy I disagreed with on that day. So I'm curious about your screening. For our screening, the biggest laughs of the whole movie by far were for Mole Man.
Starting point is 00:59:07 By you. Yeah, I would agree. Really? I'm saying, what do you mean really? You were there. I thought the biggest laugh was that the thing says he barely has a comprehension of the English language. Did you not feel like our screening was living for Mole Man?
Starting point is 00:59:20 I mean, there was like cackling laughs when he was barely saying anything. Is it like sincere laughs? Is it, you know like sometimes like Bill Burr shows up and you feel like, Hi, just gonna laugh because Bill Burr's talking. Oh my God, what just happened? Something like that. I don't know. I took it sincerely. People were like cackling.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Alright. Do you guys in the chat find Bill Burr funny? Do you guys in the chat find Moll Mann funny in this I find bill burr funny Do you guys in the chat find mole man funny in this? I think polder hauser is in our community He is you know, he was part of the schmodown a lot of us know him personally. He is very um He's very out there. He's like a big part of the nerd culture um similar there's a lot of people that uh kind of do that crossover situation like um Uh, what's the name of the guy who does all the Dungeon Dragons stuff that's very successful? Joe Manganiello also, right. Or the guy from the Scream franchise who is.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Matthew Willard. Yes, Matthew Willard. Like it's not firing on all cylinders right now but I'm just saying there's people who cross over into nerd culture because they're nerdy, and Paul Walter Hauser does all the nerd stuff. And so I think that people in the audience were like, whale it, like, ah!
Starting point is 01:00:34 And I was like, whoa, he's like barely spoken. So in your screening, which was not full of a room full of people who may or may not know him, how did he play? Well, there's one lady laughing really loud next that was sitting by us. So she laughed at a lot of stuff. But I think that when he said the line
Starting point is 01:00:50 about Johnny's outfit being terrible, I think that's when a lot of people erupted in laughter. I think he was fun. I think he was good in the movie. I liked the fact that they gave him his glasses, like his comic book glasses, that was fun. There was a part of me that was wishing we could have seen a little bit more of him,
Starting point is 01:01:08 another show at the beginning. I watched an interview with Vanessa Kirby, where she said one of her favorite scenes cut out was actually her going to visit Mole Man, and she had a drink with Mole Man, but she was drinking water, and Mole Man was drinking. That was them connecting, and I feel like, because she already had that established connection with him, that's why she was able water and moment was like drinking and that was that was them connecting and I feel like Because she already had that established connection with him. That's why she was able to bring him in
Starting point is 01:01:29 So I would have liked to have seen that but I think for what they had of him in the movie I think they did a really good job. He was fun. Yeah, so mil in the chat Livestream chat is saying for the mole man part I think he was playing a character in front of the other boys and the public when they left the room his line To sue seemed very genuine. And I did, the second time I watched it, I was like, oh, okay, yeah, there must be some type of posturing that he is putting on,
Starting point is 01:01:51 and that's very intentional. Because the first time I watched it, I don't feel like I'm watching an actual character, I feel like I'm watching a guy play a character. And then the second time I watched it, it dawned on me that's probably exactly what he's intending is, is that when when he's just alone with Sue, that's when the sincerity does come out of him. And I bought him more of the sincere and I also do have a hard time. I didn't realize we've
Starting point is 01:02:15 ever in the showdown. Because I because I'm a big Cobra Kai fan. I did have a hard time separating myself from the fact that he was stingray. And that's what I always see when I see Paul Walter Hauser. So it was hard for me to wrap my brain around this guy who's like leveled up And it is not this like slack off kind of dude But yeah, I his performance grew on me the second time the chat does seem mixed on him in here But yeah, I I thought it was definitely it worked But Aaron you bringing up that there was supposed to be another scene of him I think that would have really helped me
Starting point is 01:02:46 kind of hold onto him a little more. I love Paul Walter Hauser. I think he's an unbelievable performer, and I think he did a good job with what he was given in this, but it also goes to what I was speaking on earlier with you, which is the fact that there was so little pushback that that's a little confusing to me.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Mole Man's like yeah Everybody come down here and everyone's like word. Let's go underground with this clearly not so dude So like some of that stuff was not my favorite of the movie But it had nothing to do with him as a performer desperate times man desperate times The Prince coniers. Thank you for the super chat saying three of the most good-looking goddamn people and real rejects Anyway, did you all enjoy the OST? Who wants to explain what the OST is
Starting point is 01:03:36 Over the shoulder talk what is Original soundtrack, yes. Oh, yes. I absolutely, I said it in our. Did you guys think we were gonna know what OST was? Yeah, I've heard OST before. I never heard of it. It was like boggling my brain.
Starting point is 01:03:55 I was hoping one of you guys would pick up on what the youth say. I said it during our non-spoiler review that this is my favorite Marvel soundtrack. I think out of any of the MCU movies, this is the one that in terms of composition elicits the most. Especially when you have like the wondrous score that you get in like the opening montage and then you have a little bit of that curious 1960s flair when they're doing the space lift off. Then you have the cosmic element when they are with Galactus,
Starting point is 01:04:25 the horror of it. And then you got the chase song. I think every song in this is excellent and is a part of the character of the movie where a lot of the time, even though Giacchino, I think is one of the best composers around, he's composed a lot of these movies. The score doesn't really stand out to me
Starting point is 01:04:39 in most of them Marvel movies. The score in this one really stood out to me. But what about you, Aaron? I can agree with that. Yeah, I mean, there's certain ones that stick out in my head, like the Cap-1 theme, the Avengers theme is probably the most iconic out of all of these.
Starting point is 01:04:53 But I feel like this one is the one I, one of the few I would go back to and listen, like recreationally outside of the movie. I love the Fantastic Four main theme. And it's crazy that there were four iterations into this and this is the first time we have a theme that really sings and really feels like the Fantastic Four and captures that wondrous spirit of those characters.
Starting point is 01:05:15 So I really think that, yeah, this is definitely my, hell, I'll say it, this is my favorite MCU score out of all of these movies. So you're the same as Greg? Yeah, I would say that. I was listening to this score on the way here, like on repeat. Well, for the little behind the scenes for everybody,
Starting point is 01:05:32 Greg, I don't think you were here. You were somewhere else dealing with tech stuff. I walked in and Aaron said, yeah! And I was like, what? And he was like, the string today! So the score apparently got you pumped. Like you walked in and you literally like yelled. You were stoked and I was like, that's so cool.
Starting point is 01:05:51 So maybe the score got you vibing. Yeah, I was like shouting from my car, fantastic four! Like I love it so much. I like the score. I thought it was good. I thought it was very, very good. I love the Thunder the score. I thought it was good. I thought it was very, very good. I loved the Thunderbolt score.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And so it's kind of interesting coming off that where I like nonstop was talking about the Thunderbolt score and everybody was like, you loved that score so much. And I was like, I really did. And then I saw this and I was like, I definitely liked this. But unfortunately, I thought that the credit song
Starting point is 01:06:22 really didn't fit the vibe of the movie. And that's kind of what we ended with. So I loved the score. Could we have gone a little more 60s inspired as like a music head? There's so much you can kind of do with that. And I know that that's not the earth that we're on, but I would have loved a little more inspiration
Starting point is 01:06:41 from the 60s soundtrack wise. I don't remember the credits song. Did you like a 90s rap of like the Fantastic Four talking about that? No, no, it was kind of weird. I don't know what the song was. And it was super distracting to me. And I was like, well, what is this random?
Starting point is 01:06:54 It was like slower and weird. But the score was really, really solid. And I have a feeling I actually will even prefer more just listening to it in the car than even watching it. So yeah, I liked it, but people walked out saying exactly what you two did, best score of the MCU, and that wasn't my initial gut.
Starting point is 01:07:14 It wasn't my number one favorite thing about this, even though it was great. Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong, did he also do Dr. Strange? Yeah. Okay, I don't really remember Strange as too much, but yeah, I know for sure he did this. He did the Batman and he did Spider-Man and yeah, I guess out of those three, which ones you say is your favorite Batman for sure. But yeah, we should move on.
Starting point is 01:07:35 I think the Batman's definitely his best one. I think the Batman you get more free rein to fair. Yeah, I see that. Michelle Michelle. Always in our streams. Hell yeah. What's up, Michelle? Is this the first MCU movie without some version of the Marvel Studios fanfare montage intro? Oh, I didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 01:07:55 No, Captain America 4 didn't do it. It just said Marvel Studios. Really? Yeah, it just cut to black and said Marvel Studios. There was conversation about that afterwards. I remember people being like, why did they do that? It was very weird. I think it's more fitting for this than Captain America because this is a completely different
Starting point is 01:08:13 Earth and there's no references to the main timeline here. So I think it would make more sense to not include it in this one. But oh, on IMAX too, they all they, oh, so, you saw, on IMAX, they do a special, so on IMAX, they do like the 10, nine, eight countdown for every one of their IMAX trainings, so they like promote IMAX, and they do a very special customized one for Fantastic Four. It's friggin' awesome, do you remember that?
Starting point is 01:08:37 No. Nine, your memory is amazing. You just saw this like a few days ago. Are you sure they did it in IMAX? Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. What did they do? Whatever that IMAX countdown is, they did like a fantastic four rendition of it
Starting point is 01:08:50 with like the characters popping up and animated and stuff. It's really cool. I could lie to you and say I did and I probably could have gotten away with that, but I'm not a liar. You could have been like, yeah, that was cool. But I don't remember that.
Starting point is 01:09:01 In all fairness, I had had a horrible day that day and I've said this in my reviews. I was with you all day. You had a great day. You all had a horrible day? And I will say that I need to go back and watch this because the first five minutes I was so overwhelmed that I'm not sure that I was picking up everything
Starting point is 01:09:17 that you were putting down. Racing thoughts is a hard thing to combat. That's my life every single day. Chadwick Meyers, thank you again for being back here. Would be a 10 out of 10 if we had a shirtless Ben. He's my fave. We didn't get a shirtless Ben. The beginning of the montage when he's carrying the ship,
Starting point is 01:09:33 he had no shirt on. It was his pants. Oh yeah. Maybe he means a shirtless thing. This movie did so much for... We didn't get a shirtless thing. Oh, we didn't? Yeah, that's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:09:42 The beginning of the movie. While he's carrying his ship, he's pulling the crate. Oh. Maybe he means the shirtless Ben. Like the actor? Yeah, like Eben. Oh, maybe, yeah maybe. Flashback.
Starting point is 01:09:56 This movie did so much for me with Johnny, went from least favorite to second favorite, best scene was him confronting Surfer in her language, so much agency. That was so, that was so good. I just felt like, cause he's such an underdog and I connect him, we all know that. Watching him and I was just like, fucking show him.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Like, tell them all. He did so much work. He learned the language and didn't tell, like, oh, that was such a good scene. And when he does it, I was just like, ugh, like, to be validated. And then she saw him, and ugh, he was the hero of the movie.
Starting point is 01:10:33 I love him. Aaron? He did a great job. What did you think, we haven't talked about her too much. What did you think of Silver Surfer? I thought she was great. That scene where she first comes in and they do like the 360 shot of her, I thought the CGI looked so good.
Starting point is 01:10:50 So good. I was like, oh my god, that is a chrome woman. Yeah. Her hair looks incredible. She's a chrome woman. I believe that is her skin. And in the trailers, it did not look as good and I was a little worried that we were gonna get
Starting point is 01:11:03 some wonky eye stuff, but she looked amazing. Yeah, and listen from the trailers, it did not look as good, and I was a little worried that we were gonna get some wonky eye stuff, but she looked amazing. Yeah, and listen from the marketing, and even in the movie, I got chills. It still worked in context. The, I herald his beginning, I herald your end, I herald Galactus. So I was like, oh yes, my vocalist, it's, oh, it's my ears.
Starting point is 01:11:19 It was great, it was a great save. I have the silver surface. That was the voice you just did for her. I have the herald for Galactus, chum. You guys are weird voicing her. Julia Garner is a top five actress currently for me. I love her so much. I loved Ozark, I love the Americans,
Starting point is 01:11:36 I love inventing Anna, I watch everything she does. So this was really exciting for me because this is the first real mainstream. Of course, people don't know it's really her, although she did get one scene where that's Julia Garner, I was so fur for that, but man, I feel like nobody could have brought this character to life the way that she did,
Starting point is 01:11:55 and this is the character I was most nervous about, and I was just so amped that I felt like she, even though her arc was a little predictable, she nailed it, I mean nailed it. How'd you feel, Greg? I think she's really good in the movie and I love the, she has one of my favorite scenes, absolutely, with the silver surfer, Chase.
Starting point is 01:12:16 If I was to provide something new that I haven't said yet in all the times I've talked about this movie, I'm gonna give an incredible, undoubtedly, a nitp pick. I acknowledge that I am picking a nit right now. When you do go to her planet. I'm tired of the cliche one daughter and we're on a white beach sand and we're all alone. That's like every fucking movie show. It's like, Oh, it's always like, this one person there on the beach taking their child and then something and I always I'm like, there one person, they're on the beach taking their child and then something. And I always, I'm like, there's gotta be like something
Starting point is 01:12:47 or more substance in this generic white beach thing that people always do. We're on a different planet. Let's see what this kind of looks like. Especially when they're talking about my people and my community and stuff. I don't know, they could have digitalized something. Again, nitpick.
Starting point is 01:13:01 No, I hear you. I wasn't really there being like, what the hell's going on, this stupid movie? But yeah, it's a little bit of nitpick. Yeah, I hear you. I wasn't really there being like what the hell is going on this stupid movie But yeah, it's a little bit epic. Yeah, I thought she was serviceable. I think I would have liked I think her performance was good. Her arc was serviceable I would have maybe liked one scene after Johnny confronts her to like maybe you know See what her thought processes were but I feel like maybe that would have taken away from the subversion of Johnny but to sacrifice himself Yeah, so I'm like a little conflicted on that.
Starting point is 01:13:26 But yeah, I'm curious if they ever go back to her and see what happens to her and galactis on the other side of that black hole. Do you think we will ever see that version of Silver Surfer ever again? Hopefully. Yeah, I think so. I wanna go into, we got a couple of stream labs here really quick, but guys in the chat. I'm going to ask you
Starting point is 01:13:50 Did you like silver surfer? I don't hear too many people talk about silver surfer in this and I would like to know your opinion What am I not people? You know like just regular people not fancy influencer critic people like you Dan B 900s got a trifecta here saying I thought f4 was great But have to agree with coy when it comes to Johnny it didn't feel like Johnny completely when it's not Quinn's fault Ben subplot with the teacher felt cut down where he didn't get as much to do not as much character development and he goes on to say read and sue are pretty close but I have to say read was my favorite of the four they nail Galactus f4 is the better structure film but I enjoy Superman more
Starting point is 01:14:25 especially with the ending and emotional moments hitting harder which is reminiscent of GOG volume 2 imagine if after doomsday got announced that we had the solo doom film after f4 noah holly wrote a script for one in 2018 oh did he now i didn't know that marvel would never do a villain film like that but you could get the Reed relationship before Doomsday, which has to do so much work. You've kind of talked about that a little bit. Yeah. Do you guys wish that we were getting a little bit more
Starting point is 01:14:56 character development with Doom in the Fantastic Four before this Doomsday movie, or do you not really give a shit? It's hard to say when we haven't seen it yet. Like, if it works, then I know, and if it doesn't work, then yes, you know, and if it doesn't work, then yes. You know, in the same way that I felt rewinding time going way back when we were seeing BBS and people were like, do you wish that you were getting
Starting point is 01:15:12 a solo Batman movie first? Now looking back, absolutely, I feel like it was necessary and I really wish that we had had that, but at the time I was like, well if they do it right and we get everything we need, then no. I feel like movies like Superman are fantastic for a testament to the fact that you don't need to exactly see where someone comes from
Starting point is 01:15:32 as long as their arc is resonant. And I feel like with this being called Doomsday and the Russo's having directed a movie where Thanos is the main character, I feel like it's kind of implied that Doom is the main character of this movie, so I feel like with him being the centerpiece, I feel like that's gonna be enough, for me at least,
Starting point is 01:15:51 to justify this being our introduction to him. They're gonna have to do flashbacks. They're gonna have to teach us about different time periods in his life. I don't think it's gonna be able to be a linear story completely. I know that you're not stoked on it. You think we need more.
Starting point is 01:16:04 I've said a lot about it. I do think we need more. But I don't know. I'm of the mind where I can totally go in and like I actually like with BVS I don't mind that we didn't get Batman beforehand. You're with the majority of the people on that. I think it would have probably been a stronger experience but I didn't mind it. I think it actually works fine. I think it's because we had just had a Dark Knight trilogy even though we don't need to unpack this back. Let's let's slow it down here. All right what do we got? Nope, oh is it frozen? No it's a little frozen. Unumumental frozen. It's a little bit frozen. Let it go. Let it go.
Starting point is 01:16:50 That's the one. Do you want me to start reading super chats from random spots? No, I got you. I got it right here. Hey. Booyah fixed. Booyah baby.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Good job. Really solid. Excellent work. Really killing it Thanks, yeah, I got you It's so different than what okay Use your shoe storm powers Brian Garcia, thank you. This is happy Saturday guys Sue giving birth during interstellar travel after encountering a celestial god is the craziest thing Marvel's done in my opinion
Starting point is 01:17:28 Kind of awkward that Johnny was there Pants come off and Johnny's just like looking over but she does go invisible so that made it better I'm just not mature enough. I'm probably really more with Johnny than reading. I'm not sure enough to handle Johnny than reading I'm not sure enough to handle the science behind like part of me was like can she just go invisible and then can we just like grab the baby push it out well I don't think she's I she's not invisible, she's not transparent. I know, but we'd have to like phase through her. Yeah, yeah. Like can we like elongate through and like. Oh yeah, we could probably. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Yeah, you're right. We could have probably gone in there, yeah, could have thinned themself out, yeah. It's not, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that we could have figured out a way for her to not have to like give birth in front of her brother like that. Yeah., you know
Starting point is 01:18:25 Desperate times golfer does I love her performance there though The multitude of what she has to handle in that one scene the struggle the invisibility also the dialogue dynamic interaction and she keeps the dynamics alive like when she's like Don't put me down John Johnny and Yeah, then of course and I loved even Pedro Pascal's interaction with her in that moment where he's trying to lead the situation be calm You know fix all the coordinates and then also trying to calm his wife and make sure she's like feeling heard and he She's safe. I thought that whole scene is pretty perfect to me And while you got like the Star Wars references going on with Johnny behind the blaster and stuff
Starting point is 01:19:04 That was a really that is that is truly exceptional, fantastic foreseen because it is also primarily relying on their minds. And I feel like that's one of the things that this movie does so well is it's really, their personalities and their mind first and then their powers come second. Yeah, it's also one of the most complicated scenes to shoot because they're all in different locations.
Starting point is 01:19:26 The cross talk, the dialogue, like how we have to have everything, the timing of that scene, that's just a very, very difficult scene to do. So I'm with you, Greg. That was one of my favorite scenes in the movie as well. I'm mostly talking about her giving birth invisibly in jest.
Starting point is 01:19:40 I don't really think that we should have had a scene where somebody phased through. Just was thinking about her woman to woman afterwards. It was like, we could have done something to help this girl's pain. But yeah, I thought the scene was awesome. Yeah, I would say that was my second favorite scene of the movie.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Yeah, just the stakes around that and then Johnny and the blasters, they're getting chased and they're trying to curve around it so it's not hitting Silver Server. But yeah, I think they did a great job and then how Reed was stretching during that, and then how Sue was going through her emotions, trying to navigate that.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Yeah, I think they did a fantastic job for what they're attempting and aiming to do. But I also don't think it's that weird that Johnny was there because, you know, I don't know if they still do this, but families have been there. Like, while the baby's being born, like on Earth was there because, you know, I don't know if they still do this, but families have been there, like while the baby's being born, like on Earth in hospitals, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:28 like full spread open, just see the baby come out of the canal. Yeah. Siblings? I think just like aunties, like parents and stuff. Yeah, that's so different than your brother, dude. Okay, fair. I grew up with him.
Starting point is 01:20:41 As a man with a sister. I wouldn't want to see a person with him. I know that it happens. I honestly think, I sister. I wouldn't want to see a person with a sister. But I know that it happened. I honestly think, I'm sorry to be hyperbolic for a second, but if my brother was in the room while I was giving birth, I think that just put me out. Like, I mean, I cannot. That's like the most horrific.
Starting point is 01:20:59 Auntie's fine. If my auntie's in the room, my brother, I would, oh no, no, I can't think about it for too long because that's actually the Worst thing that could happen to a person you know Johnny couldn't stop staring Right now you're like that really happens if to the families out there where siblings are in the room together boy girl siblings just don't tell me don't write in the comments I don't want to know about it no well no was your sibling there when you were born let us know guys no would you be okay most 50% women shit themselves when they give
Starting point is 01:21:40 birth like that's not enough movies yeah it is and this wasn't in this one unless she made it invisible we don't know you can't poop in space oh that smell it was invisible you just couldn't see it that's what i said ryan is saying the whole space sequence in f4 might be the best i've seen in a movie in a long time truly one of the greatest things i've ever seen in a movie ryan i'm so happy you are echoing our exact thoughts here. Thank you so much. Al Rensha, appreciate the super chat. After this, do you think Dr. Doom is in Thunderbolts post-credit or is it a Fantastic Four? Ah, interesting theory.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I think likely Doom, but maybe Dr. Doom escapes the 616 and F4 chase. Oh, weird. That would. OK, so I don't know if it's hard video, Aaron, but the question that Coyne and I were posing is that the rooms that the new Avengers are in Fantastic Four and Thunderbolts, post credits, is the exact same room as the Fantastic Four in their earth. And so when they're coming back, they think like that. That tower is in 616 is the Baxter building in their Earth. And so when they're coming back, they think that tower
Starting point is 01:22:46 in 616 is the Baxter building in 828. So I think there's similar sets. So that's why I think it would be the Fantastic Four, but I do like the idea of it's a mislead, and it's actually like Dr. Doom who hijacked the ship. Well, I think it is a mislead, because I saw a Kevin Feige interview say that what they use in the movie Fantastic Four is the ship. Well, I think it is a mislead, because I saw a Kevin Feige interview say that what they use in the movie Fantastic Four is the Excelsior,
Starting point is 01:23:08 and what's coming into Earth in Thunderbolts is not the same ship, so it might not be our Fantastic Four. Oh, really? Yeah. Could be John Krasinski, finally back at it. Hell yeah. That's what I love to hear.
Starting point is 01:23:21 It is time to shine. Let's see here, Noah Beltran, having an idea of what's coming in the next few years, how long do you think we'll have the F4 or this version in the MCU? Wait a minute, or this version? This has to be our version. They'd be fools to switch this version, unless he's talking about-
Starting point is 01:23:41 Are you saying this version of the four? That is the one troubling thing about you know They're rebooting the Marvel universe after Secret Wars because you have to merge what the MC use Established with what the Fantastic Four is and I doubt they're gonna go with the retro 60s thing and whatever new iteration of the MC Is after so you're okay, so I guess are you posing actually Chad? I'd be curious to know from you guys too. Are are you posing actually Chad I'd be curious to know from you guys too are are you posing that the they're gonna move away from 828 and come into 616 universe is that what you're saying that's what I'm thinking of the time or find some sort of a magic this fantastic for though this fantastic the same cast so again
Starting point is 01:24:17 strange well I think well after the worlds are created to do incursion events and stuff I think we will have some melding but I feel like the fantastic for that we have now will be part of that meld. I'd be shocked if they take. But unless you're right. They're being so well received, so that would be a silly, silly choice.
Starting point is 01:24:32 And there are newbies. We haven't necessarily had a lot of time with them yet, so we could spend another decade with them minimum. There's so much to still be done with them, so many stories to tell. It would be really, really strange for them to swap out our four. I think it's gonna be the same cast,
Starting point is 01:24:48 but we're gonna lose that retro 60s aesthetic. Oh, for sure at some point, I believe that we're not gonna be in a retro 60s aesthetic because of action figures. Action figures? Yes, we got to sell more figures, means more costumes. I mean, they had multiple costumes in this movie, so I guess they could technically, if they were trying to meld them, but.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Yeah. We gotta get with the times. Gotta get with the times. Appreciate that, Noel. A Torrance killed coin. The chat is catching up to where we are about the giving the birth on the ship, and I am now distracted by them,
Starting point is 01:25:20 and I'm not with you guys anymore. I'm paying attention to my friends talking about the birth. All right. Torrance, Kid of Coin, I absolutely love the golden records that they recorded to. They mirrored those from the real life Voyager probes from the 70s. Key to the plot two.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Oh, that was a beautiful addition. Actually, I didn't know that. I thought they made that shit up for this movie. Do you know what they're talking about? Or no? The real life Voyager probes from the 70s. I mean, usually we pull things from real life. But do you know what the record thing they're talking about?
Starting point is 01:25:53 Like the recordings that Johnny had? Yes, but I didn't know about the real life Voyager probes. Oh, I see, I didn't know. Oh, I never heard that before. I thought that was the thing this movie made up, but I didn't realize they actually did that. Yeah, no, that's cool. But of course, usually things come from somewhere.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Unless you're just super innovative. They just found strange sounds in space that they had on a disc, is that what they're saying? What was that Apple TV show that I watched that had had a whole, it was a whole season on that? Ted Lassam. No, somebody in the chat will let me know. Not that they found, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:26:25 that they recorded from space and put on a record player. I don't know. Yes. Yes, okay. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Nighttime, thank you, nighttime. Baby Franklin in F4 will end up evil in next film.
Starting point is 01:26:41 That's what I'm considering is that Duel. Yeah, that's just kind of your pitch. that Doom will be like, I don't know, there was something so intimate about that touch. But do you think Baby Franklin eventually, I'm not talking about the next time we see him or even in the middle of his journey, do you think eventually he'll go back to good? Yes, yes, if they don't kill him off
Starting point is 01:27:01 because he is Omega level, but if they don't kill him off, then yeah, I think he would go back to good. I don't know. Maybe it's the battle for his soul. I think they'll tease it. I genuinely don't know. I genuinely don't know how they're gonna do it, but I'm curious though.
Starting point is 01:27:16 I'm excited for whatever they do. I think it'd be interesting if they use your aged up idea. I mean, Franklin is incredibly important. And I'm really excited for people, because everyone wanted to see the four, but I don't know, Franklin is just, part of me- Is Franklin your favorite?
Starting point is 01:27:34 No, no, but part of me worries that Franklin might be too powerful of a character to include. Just some of the stuff he can do. Like I just got to a part in the comic where he's like controlling Galactus as his herald. I'm a little worried about Franklin because so many people, the only people who are about to be like pissed
Starting point is 01:27:55 if they don't do Franklin well are the nerdiest of the nerds, the comic book people. And I have always been a much bigger DC reader than I have been a Marvel reader my whole life. But in general, obviously, I'm familiar with Franklin because I'm familiar with Fantastic Four and I've dabbled. But I don't have an obsession with him, like people who are obsessed with Franklin.
Starting point is 01:28:18 And so there's not much, like if they make him good, evil, if he is the most powerful, if he's a little less powerful, it's not really gonna affect me, but I feel like you have such a strong belief of what they should do with him, that you're in a difficult position. I'm cool with whatever. I think more of a coy would be more particular.
Starting point is 01:28:37 I don't know, man, you have been fantastic foring. I know, but it's only like recent months, honestly. Yeah, but by the time that we get there. True, but I'm also of the opinion that I don't mind when they dial back a power to add more stakes for a character, especially the protagonist. I didn't mind it in super. So you think Superman's a bitch?
Starting point is 01:28:55 I think Superman is a bitch. Little bitch Superman. Is that what I'm hearing from you? Super bitch. Yeah. It's better than super shit. I don't think he's gonna be as powerful as in the comics. I feel like there's, you limit the plausibility
Starting point is 01:29:11 of your stakes if you make something that is so abstract and so powerful that it can do anything. So I feel like they have to limit it, unfortunately, for maybe fans of who like how powerful he is in the comics, but I feel like whatever they do will be in service of their story to make sense of what it is. So yeah, I kinda hope that they depower him, but keep some of those aesthetics,
Starting point is 01:29:37 or some of those things about him, that make that character what it is. It's kinda similar to, what's Lewis Pullman's name in Thunderboltts Matt? Bob Bob century Bob it's kind of similar to the Bob century transition a little bit where it's like you start With somebody he's obviously not a baby But like we think one thing going in same thing that we're thinking of Franklin and then we're about to see how powerful they can Possibly be and have to work them off of a ledge to bring them back.
Starting point is 01:30:06 Which, that really worked for me there. Obviously this is on a much bigger scale with much bigger stakes and a much longer run, but I like storylines of redemption. I like storylines where people are so emotionally invested in a character for a specific reason. Yeah, that's true. I concur, I concur.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Matt. Captain. I forgot Bob. Captain Fernandez. Sentry I think could easily defeat Doom. Captain Fernandez. Easily? Yeah, Sentry can easily defeat Doom.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Saw Fantastic Four today. In this? Yeah, I mean I don't know what level of skill Doom is at by the time we see him, but essentially he has like all the powers. But you think in this, that's what we're gonna see happen?
Starting point is 01:30:52 Likely. I feel like they're gonna be really conservative with their use of Bob because of how powerful he is. I feel like they're not gonna use him until like, you know, until the third quarter. Maybe. Fourth quarter. Captain Fernandez saw Fantastic Four today.
Starting point is 01:31:04 You guys say F4 and it confuses me because there's a movie Saw fantastic for day enjoyed it. However, just like I felt Superman I can't help but think it would have benefited from being a little longer Yeah, 155 when I was pulling because I have to work on like gathering assets and stuff for for these videos I didn't realize how much was cut out there's so much in the trailers that was cut out there's a whole like scene of Re is one of the first scenes they ever showed us in the trailer of Reed and Sue showing some guy around their home Oh, yeah, where's like this scene? Obviously John Malkovich was cut out
Starting point is 01:31:42 He's a cartoon character at the end as Red Ghost in the actual post credits but and there's other shots in there too that were definitely cut. So did you want it to be longer? I think it on my first viewing legit had no qualms with it in terms of pacing and stuff on this. Yes you did. I had no I mean I'm not, but in terms of what was featured, like I didn't, it seemed like there was stuff cut out, but I wasn't quite able to tell when. It was that feeling I had, but wasn't sure like, where's that thing?
Starting point is 01:32:16 On a second viewing, I did find that this probably would have benefited from an extra like 10 to 20 minutes. I think that thing that I said about the second act where I felt it semi-dragged, I felt it a little bit again. Mm-hmm. You're not the only one who's been saying that, by the way.
Starting point is 01:32:31 It's after they come back and Reed, for some reason, tells everyone, I don't know why Reed told everyone that, but Reed tells everyone like he wants our baby. I thought the same. Well, to be honest. Greg, I thought the same thing. I was like, God damn you. Like, if I was her, I'd be,. I was like, God damn you. Like if I was her, I'd be, if I was Sue, I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:32:48 you couldn't have like discussed with me for one second. Maybe they did on the ship, but like, don't do that. All you have to do is say we didn't like even Olivia in the theater, her first time watching when she says she's turned like, why the hell did she just say that? Like you don't have to reveal that information. I felt that too. Just like keep your trap shut for one second. Yeah But after that I think what happened is like cuz the movies like rampant rampant rampant rampant rampant Oh space cause of rampant rampant comes back. It's all dire press conference gone bad and then for like 30 minutes
Starting point is 01:33:22 It's like kind of slow and not slow but really takes his time and it's there's like no action I sound like a total guy who's like with my action scenes, but there is like no actions there's nothing like that's what it is you're getting exciting exciting exciting exciting and then The that's where I felt like the pacing kind of dragged a little bit till the third act even her speech But I said something it's like there's a lot of Moments and scenes that I absolutely adore and I wouldn't really change anything about it other than, I don't know, there must be something here that maybe, I felt that's probably why they trimmed it down
Starting point is 01:33:52 because I can imagine that that was even longer. That stretch. And they probably felt there was a bit of a pacing problem there. Yeah, I felt the, I like the drama after that point. I know I felt like, I mean, I need to watch it again, but I feel like the first act maybe was a little slow, but then once they-
Starting point is 01:34:14 Really? Really, first act? Really? Really. Really, say- I remember liking it, but I remember loving it once. Right before the Silver Surfer came in, like when the, like they had the different police cars
Starting point is 01:34:30 going in different areas, I was like, okay, this is cool. And then Galactus came in, or Silver Surfer came in, I was like, okay, this is really good. So from that point on, I was hooked, I was locked in. To address the thing you were saying about the trailers earlier, I was thinking about that on the drive here and because in that scene they're like,
Starting point is 01:34:48 yes, we meet up at 7 p.m. every week on the dot. And I was like, oh, okay, that's a fun little thing, very 60s sort of interview style for them to do. But then I was like, okay, does that ring as a little redundant when at the beginning of the movie, they're all sitting there at the dinner table Already like that kind of just addresses that twice But I do feel like there are things that like it just hit the same beat so you didn't need it
Starting point is 01:35:13 Yeah, I would have liked to have seen him. I don't think it was necessary But I think that the scene that was cut out right before they go to space with a pregnant Sue talking to more man I think that would have been something that would have been a little more necessary because he comes in right before the third act when Galactus comes. Yeah, I do think the movie could have been longer because I remember when we first bought tickets, when I was first looking for tickets,
Starting point is 01:35:37 AMC had listed this movie as two hours and 10 minutes, but then when I went back to go check it, it was listed as one hour and 55 minutes. So I was like, okay, was that just like an oopsie on their part or was something actually cut out and they released, they made a new runtime that was 15 minutes shorter? A lot of these movies, they trim down
Starting point is 01:35:54 to like the week before. They do this often. I think it's a little ironic that for 10 years, we've heard, at least five years, we've heard everybody be like, we want movies under two hours, shorter movies. These movies are dragging. We don't want these three hour movies.
Starting point is 01:36:11 The Batman three hour, no, it's too much. Shorter, shorter, tighter, tighter. And then we get Superman and Fantastic Four, both short and tight, and immediately the comments afterwards from my people were like, these could be a little longer. Sure, yeah. Nah, that wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:36:26 I love that three hour Batman. I'm not talking about you at all. I'm just saying, you haven't seen this commentary online at all? I agree that it was too short, but I know that some people, I always hear that, like the zeitgeist of people saying one thing and the one that they do
Starting point is 01:36:41 with the other side says this. I never know if it's, I never see if it's the same people. Oh, sorry. Oh, yes. Yeah. I was always confused for a second. Yes, but to answer your question.
Starting point is 01:36:53 Whatever it was, yes. Okay. Brandon T. Bernard, do you think people say the theater experience is declining because they are no longer an experience? I remember Midnight Show has the people in costumes for most of the early MCU and Star Wars. You know what?
Starting point is 01:37:14 Do you mind if I talk on this first, guys? Go for it. Yes. That's why I asked you, Erin, about the theater experience to see what was it like on a Thursday night. Now, I went to a full IMAX screening at 12.30 p.m. So it's not an evening time, but it's still opening day and it's jam packed with everyone rocking
Starting point is 01:37:32 Fantastic Four shirts. And you said the crowd wasn't that like responsive and stuff and like they laugh at stuff, but there's not like cheering or clapping or whatever. Maybe there's a little bit more people who are like, let's just see how they do this. And it was, it was the same thing for us at that, at that 1230 PM show, which by the way, fun story got stuck in an elevator.
Starting point is 01:37:55 What? It was awful. It was like seven of us. Oh God. It was like 10, 15 minutes, but it was like seven of us in this tiny elevator. And yeah, it was one of those things where right when we stepped inside, I won't say why, but when I was inside at Living, I looked at you like,
Starting point is 01:38:13 I don't have a good feeling about this. And sure enough, when we went down, it got stuck. And I won't say why, it's the whole thing. But anyway, it was awful. But the theater experience, what they're talking about here in this Super Chat. I don't see that much, I'm hoping Doomsday brings that back for the MCU.
Starting point is 01:38:35 I didn't see Superman with an opening night crowd. When did you see Superman? I saw Superman on the eighth before it came out wide. I saw it at the Chinese theater. Yeah, the Chinese fans. Was the crowd like a crowd crowd? Like they were super into it? Yeah, yeah, it was the advanced screening
Starting point is 01:38:51 at the Chinese theater. They were all, they were, yeah. Would you say that crowd was more like interactive than the Fantastic Four crowd? For sure, yeah, cause this is a bunch of people that were super fans going in to see it like three days early. So yeah. Oh, that's a different context.
Starting point is 01:39:04 But you would think that super fans are going night of to Fantastic Four. Yeah. Yeah, but I feel like it was more of an exclusive thing because it's three days early. Sure. I think a couple of things on this Super Chat. Who sent this in?
Starting point is 01:39:19 Brandon T. Bernard. Brandon, thank you for that. I think number one, and people are gonna roll their eyes, but I can't not bring it up, cell phones. Cell phones have destroyed so much of the movie going experience for me. There was somebody on their cell phone at our screening, Greg.
Starting point is 01:39:36 And somebody had to come over and talk to them about putting it away. They were literally just like this. Someone actually told them to put it away? Yes. Thank God. Not somebody who worked at the theater. A person watching the movie was like, can you put that away?
Starting point is 01:39:49 Full, full light like this. And I know that I was on my phone at the beginning of this. It's because I was doing social media, guys. You can't just be in a movie theater like this. And any time I go to a non-screening, there's never a movie theater that I go to where there's not at least one, two, or three people on their phone.
Starting point is 01:40:05 It drives me nuts. It's super distracting. And it's not just that. It's in general, like the entitlement. There's people, I won't name names, but even in our space, that start recording things, recording their own reactions to things. In the middle of a theater,
Starting point is 01:40:20 thinking that your experience matters more than my experience or anybody else's in the room. It drives me nuts. And it's not the same as when we were kids. And I know I sound like an old curmudgeon, in the middle of a theater, thinking that your experience matters more than my experience or anybody else's in the room, it drives me nuts. And it's not the same as when we were kids. And I know I sound like an old curmudgeon, but it's not the same as when we were kids and we would go to the theater and it would be like
Starting point is 01:40:33 so peaceful and exciting and everybody was there to do one thing. Now people are there to check their Instagram. People are there, they bring in their own food that sometimes is like sushi and reeks and is old and like people just have made it their living room. So that drives me nuts. That's number one.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Number two is now we have so many more options. You can watch this at home, you can stream it. You can chill at home and have a great experience. TVs are so cheap now. Most people have at least a 40 inch, if not a 50, if not a 65. Like if not bigger than that. People have nice screens for inexpensive
Starting point is 01:41:08 that they can watch great content on and not be bothered by the people next to them. So for those reasons, I feel like it is a little different, which drives me nuts because I love the theater going experience, but it is changing. I don't know, etiquette would help a lot. Meh, meh, meh.
Starting point is 01:41:23 No, I agree with you. It is my biggest pet peeve. And yeah, it did dawn on me, especially then of watching it in the theater. Like I pay attention best to movies in the theater or when I'm doing a reaction. At home, I actually struggle to pay attention now. I'm not gonna argue.
Starting point is 01:41:38 The reaction experience is awesome. Cause we're not, there's no dual screening. It's like just two people who are super invested in something. Yeah, we're forced to pay attention. Yeah. Let's see here. Samil Battenfield, thank you again for being here.
Starting point is 01:41:54 I was gonna ask about how y'all feel about that random Pedro hape. I didn't wanna bring that negativity here, but if Roxy wants to spill the tea, here we go, Roxanne, do your thing. For the people who don't know what this is about, Pedro Pascal has come out and talked about how he is a very anxious person,
Starting point is 01:42:07 and one of the things that he does for his anxiety is he will touch people near him, like his castmates. There's been a lot of talk about this in his past with both female and male castmates, that he's a very touchy person on carpets, walking to events, et cetera. Him and Vanessa Kirby have been doing a lot of press together and they are very touchy-feely.
Starting point is 01:42:28 They hold each other's hands a lot, hand on the shoulder. He's touched her baby bump. There was footage that came out that resurfaced of him touching Willem Dafoe's wife. When I say touching, I mean Willem Dafoe was standing right there, but being touchy with. And the internet is all of a sudden calling him creepy, When I say touching, I mean, Willem Dafoe was standing right there, but like being touchy with. And the internet is all of a sudden calling him creepy,
Starting point is 01:42:48 weirdo, saying he's making up an anxiety disorder just to touch women, saying that it's only for his women counterparts, which is not true. He has been touchy-feely with men as well. And I'm super annoyed with the internet. I'm super annoyed because, first of all, who are you to tell these women that they should have an issue with him?
Starting point is 01:43:08 If they have an issue, then they should address it with him. Clearly they don't have an issue. She's as touchy with him as he is with her. Second of all, I feel like society has really lost something in the power of touch and human touch. Like just because you are homies with somebody and they make you less anxious and you're holding their hand doesn't mean that Vanessa Kirby is cheating on her husband,
Starting point is 01:43:27 which is like what the internet has gone to. How could he, while she's pregnant, the audacity, because they're holding hands? Because like physical human connection is important to be able to like reach out and like just touch somebody and be like, whatever. I think our society is so prude and strange with things that we have now turned somebody holding somebody's hand
Starting point is 01:43:52 or touching their baby belly or putting your hand on a shoulder into adultery. Piss off. It's crazy to me. Anyway, I love Pedro and I think he's done nothing wrong. Unless we hear that he does something wrong, there's no reason to believe that he's done something wrong. And sometimes when somebody's just in the public light too much,
Starting point is 01:44:09 then people decide to find a reason to dislike him. And it's like, what if he's just a good dude who's a little anxious and likes to hold somebody's hand? How about that? Wow. I'm annoyed. I don't know about any of this. Well, it's bizarre.
Starting point is 01:44:24 I will say. Okay. No, I don't know about any of this. Well, it's bizarre. I will say, okay No, I don't disagree I will say it is unusual though in a press tour For two people who are not together to be that hands-on with each other So I can I think it's gone to an extreme of what they do and say about Pedro Pascal I do think it's it is unusual though. It's not common. I would say it's uncommon for like how touchy they are with each other. Like they hold each other like they're a couple a lot of the time. Especially around like that face and that like the way they comfort each other is very hands-on and I can see why people would react to it when it's like, this is really not common, you know,
Starting point is 01:45:07 and press tours where you would think that if you didn't know about her husband or whatever, that they might be together. I can see why people might draw that conclusion, where I think the line has gone pretty crazy. What about Glenn Powell and Sidney Sweeney? They were touching, touching? Yeah, and they got, didn't they get into like,
Starting point is 01:45:22 some weird thing too? Didn't they make fun of that? They made fun of that? They made fun of that like SNL. I'm just saying you're saying it's not common and I think that we are starting to see platonic friendships blossom a little bit more on screen. I agree with you that it's not as common as other things
Starting point is 01:45:37 but I think it should be more common. I think it should be more common. Do we want people doing something behind closed doors? Or on the biggest screen possible? You know who's not trying to hide something? Somebody who's holding hands with somebody in front of millions of people. But I do hear you, it is less common.
Starting point is 01:45:56 I just would like to think, and I don't have a husband, but if I did, if he was starring in a movie with a woman and they had played romantic leads or not and one of them was feeling anxious, I would like to think that I would feel perfectly fine with them holding effing hands. Like, they're not making out, they're holding hands. I think too, if you come from actor or theater community,
Starting point is 01:46:21 it's much less weird. Like in real life, it's much less weird. Like in real life, it's much less weird. Both Pedro and her come from theater background and people are way more touch with their communication and comfort and calm, it's way more common. I think it's beautiful. I just think it's so nice that like. But then there's the, I think when it comes
Starting point is 01:46:39 to the interviews and stuff, they call it, there's like an expectation of quote unquote what people consider to be the etiquette of stuff. But I'm like, nah, I've been around like film people and theater people, especially actors, because actors are taught to be intimate. You know? And it's one of your forms of communication.
Starting point is 01:46:55 There's just never a time that either of you guys, if we were out, if either of you guys were feeling anxious, that I would be like, not gonna come over and hug ya. Not gonna do it. Like, that'd be crazy. We're friends, and they're friends. They have gone through a lot together. So I just think it's so weird what the internet does
Starting point is 01:47:12 to try to cause issues. Yeah, particularly Twitter. Yeah. Yeah, always. I feel like, with someone like Pedro Pascal, I feel like the internet's been waiting for some way for him to screw up, because he's been so popular for so long. So when someone's so likable, I think the pendulum
Starting point is 01:47:30 will swing or people will find a way to make it swing to cause controversy. But this is something that has not hit the entirety of the internet because I'm perpetual online. I did not even know about that. The only other part of it that I didn't mention because it's not ours to speculate on and who cares, but the entire internet is also referring,
Starting point is 01:47:47 is talking about his sexuality and sexual orientation and preferences, which is like also not anybody's to discuss other than him. So I think that that's another reason I am so disgusted, which is just like leave this man alone and stop doing that. Well, I think the other thing too is that people aren't considering when a lot of more hate starts to come out for someone is when they become actively defensive for the trans
Starting point is 01:48:14 community. Yeah, totally. And I think once that started happening, they were like, what's the plan? Yeah. How do we what do we find about this guy that we can do? Oh my God, did he did he hold Willem Dafoe's wife too? As the bar I was like you guys are fucking Yeah, I think will I think Willem Dafoe would perfectly be fine speaking up if you've had an issue with that yeah
Starting point is 01:48:39 It's just a force. Yeah, it's such a reach ridiculous. Anyway, um, But what do you guys in the chat Dean? Do you guys think that Pedro is rubbing his butt on Vanessa Kirby's face too often in these interviews leave your thoughts down below Man I wonder what the chat Consent was given that's another thing too. Yeah, I mean, we're behind but yeah, consent. People attack Pedro, but I'm like, Vanessa Kirby's part. Clearly, that's a consensual thing. Yeah, that's the other part of it too that people aren't considering. It'd be one thing if Pedro was doing
Starting point is 01:49:18 it and Vanessa Kirby was very uncomfortable, but they're doing it to each other. Yeah, right. If every shot of her being yeah her being like like of course and we would be feeling different but yeah they're homies yeah equally strange times strange times we live in but I love Pedro Pascal I really do I Vanessa Kirby Vanessa Kirby is a gem all right okay let's quality and quantity time, baby It is interesting being on this it's been a wasp I've been on this side where I have to like I'm monitoring multiple things at once and it is I think you're doing my ADHD He's actually working in my favor to be able to hear
Starting point is 01:50:03 Omnipresent I you kind of have to be right. Let's see here But you can experience a little bit of silence no silence Brandon T Bernard, thank you for the super chat. Also. I love you guys. We love you I reached out a few different ways. I'm an indie fantasy author and would love to sponsor a video, please let me know how. You, I think we have an email in the about section, do we? I need to check that out. It's been a while since I looked at that about section.
Starting point is 01:50:36 But sometimes people find the email when they want it. They're so out of round. That's really cool, man. Look, even if we do or don't, it doesn't matter. I'm just glad that you're here to support and the fact that you actually finished a book a novel or something like that It's a huge that is really hard. Most people who want to write they stay stuck there They just want without ever completing something and completing something is very very hard. So regardless Congratulations, and I wish you the best of luck man
Starting point is 01:51:03 And thank you for being part of the support journey here and hopefully we can have a way to support you back so thank you dude. Speaking of support to the 650 people watching live right now are you guys following us on social media at Real Rejects? Oh yeah please do that. I posted that we were doing this stream today and we are always posting anytime that we're going live plus there's tons of different content that you're going to like and I think that we're crushing. John said he had a friend text him this week being like, oh my god, I just saw this randomly and it's you and people keep telling me that it's getting to people in all different spaces.
Starting point is 01:51:37 So I'm stoked on that. Go over there and follow us. Thank you. Thank you. Chadwick Myers. Thank you Chadwick. Side note, I like that it was just a given that Johnny's clothes don't burn. Yeah. Yeah. Picking the knit here. I wish there was like one line, but I just assumed that like all his clothes are flame retardant and
Starting point is 01:52:01 that Reid made them for him in some way. It was like, ah, it's been four years, I'm sure. Because Mole Man has that line, like, I didn't dress you, so I'm assuming that all his clothes are specifically designed by Reid so that way he can just flame on whenever he wants. Underrated shot that I love is when Silver Surfer first appears and Reid says, Johnny, and then he goes into the Airflame On and then attracts him from behind for a while as he's ascending to go to the Silver Surfer. You were talking about that, I thought,
Starting point is 01:52:32 when we first saw her and then she goes up and then he's there and gets pushed off the board? No, it's the first tracking shot before she comes down to the Times Square moment. Yeah, I just really loved that. That was a cool shot. The Flame Ons look really good. I don't think he said it at all, did he?
Starting point is 01:52:47 No, and he gives Ben so much crap about clobbering time. Yeah, he never said it once. Yeah. They neutered him. Ruined. Can't even say flame-on. Flame-on. Because it's a reference to all the gonorrhea
Starting point is 01:53:01 that he's accumulated in Chlamydia from all the women he's slept with. I understand. It's dramatic. Yeah. Keep it pushing dude. It's a monster movie. Don't don't get hung up on chlamydia. Pierre Jones. Pierre Jones according to superhero hype the character that Natasha Lyonne portrays in the film honors a real-life legend in comics. Oh I have no idea who that is. Me neither. She wasn't Alicia Masters. That didn't Natasha Lyonne portrays in the film honors a real life legend in comics. Oh. I have no idea who that is.
Starting point is 01:53:27 Me neither. She was in Alicia Masters. That didn't bother me though. I love poker face, I love Orange is the New Black, I love Natasha Lyonne, and I love a positive portrayal of Jews on screen. It's exciting to see that we went to a Jewish location that Ben in this iteration still is Jewish.
Starting point is 01:53:47 And I was just stoked on this. Between this and Superman, just like having just like good old fashioned American Jews. Fantastic Jews. It was cool. But I love Natasha Lyonne and I would like to see a lot more of her in the future. And I'm guessing that we're going to,
Starting point is 01:54:03 otherwise you wouldn't cast an actress like her. I like their chemistry. I like that she didn't, she seemed like she would date him. Yeah. Yeah, she seemed into him. I was kinda like, what does that mean about, just like. You know exactly what it means. No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Rock hard pounding, clobbering time, baby. You know what I'm talking about. Really, what does that look like? You know exactly what it, I'll draw it it for you No, oh, so you think? Really, you don't think this is just like a mouth situation. No, no, no, I think it's like when two cats make love It's really painful But it's one cat and one tree It's not what what what were you going? Where's the tree? I'm just saying if one of them's a cat that's guarding the galaxy we're talking about cats or trees
Starting point is 01:54:49 I'm just saying like they're two different things you know happens when cats make love painful it's really painful because they have screws under things it so it's like kind of scraping that's why they're in pain when they're making screws it's like these little spike screws it's like weird then, and that's why I was saying it was that, because if the thing is doing it, you know. Do you think you'd have a spiky, spiky member? Maybe rocky and a little jaggedy. I don't think it's smooth.
Starting point is 01:55:14 I'm saying that the feeling might be equivalent to that. Okay, just like really realistically for a second, what do you guys think it looks like? Like is it, is it it one after another brick situation? Or it's one long? I'm glad she played a legendary comic character so we can dissect this moment. I will say, I will say.
Starting point is 01:55:35 Oh, please. I'm all, I like. Are you gonna answer my question or not? What was your, oh, you brought his, I think he does his little, you know how he did with his beard? I think he does that with his thing. Oh, and then kind of shapes.
Starting point is 01:55:45 Shapes it like one, yeah. It's malleable like that. That's a good theory. Hey, man, whatever works, you know. You gotta play to whoever you're with. Anyway, I think that it would have been interesting if, because the only things I've really known her from are American Pie and Orange's New Black. I haven't seen Poker Face, but I've really known her from are American Pie and Orange is the New Black,
Starting point is 01:56:06 I haven't seen Poker Face, but I'm accustomed to her being, I guess, sort of have like a tougher kind of thing going for her, and I feel like this was against type for what she normally plays, so I think it would've been interesting for her to kind of exude some of that, being a smaller woman. So she's like, her character is tough, but her physicality is small.
Starting point is 01:56:25 And Ben is a big guy, but his interior is softer. Cause he's like, seems more introverted. He's just a guy who likes to cook in the kitchen. So I feel like if they would have showcased, that would have been an interesting contrast with their relationship. But I feel like just that side of things was the most, that probably got the most cut.
Starting point is 01:56:42 Cause I feel like the thing didn't have as much personal stuff to do as the other ones, but that being said, what was there was nice, it was cute. Do you guys think we're ever gonna see Edmund Moss' back rocks face again? Nope, just his little eyes. And his little thing. No, what's your answer to it, Greg?
Starting point is 01:57:02 Yeah, I think we will because, I mean, in the comics sometimes you're able to do stuff where you can't see his face. That's why I'm asking. And I think they would do a version of that. That'd be nice. It would be really nice. I think there might be even something in Doomsday
Starting point is 01:57:16 or Secret Wars in terms of complacency where they can tempt Ben with a prospect to maybe betray or join a side or something. Yeah, agreed. At a side or something. Yeah some flashbacks Chadwick Myers back at it Thank you Chadwick some of your and koi's negatives are explored in the canon prequel comic about their beginning mole man and establishing more of Each character Johnny has a self-started monthly male fan club service Yeah
Starting point is 01:57:43 There's like all these easter eggs in the Especially in the credits of it if you really pay a lot of people go on their phones and the credit starts moving But there's a lot of really cool easter eggs and I caught that about the fan club service and then disney actually sending something Cool to us later on uh that had that but I want I I just got the it's so Oh, it's right over there. I got the prequel comic Uh, I can't wait to read it because I imagine it's so oh it's right over there I got the prequel comic I can't wait to read it because I imagine it's probably worth a lot if you guys want to read more comics highly recommend the Marvel Unlimited app that's what I read most
Starting point is 01:58:13 of my Marvel comics on but I say most of me like 99% of them it's pretty amazing absolutely love it read comics people or watch comics explained But read comics cody bishop in 1999. There was a superman fantastic four crossover this is uh, this is part of the uh, The movement with dc and marvel that i'm super excited about I think with james gun In the dc seat and kevin feige and him being such close buds I feel like in like 10 years time. We will get a crossover of Marvel and DC. But not in five years time, we'll be getting a crossover.
Starting point is 01:58:50 It'll be fun fun fun. It'll be fun fun fun. And you'll be loving the vows of the elephants too. And they'll be, put your hands in mine. Oh yeah, I told you, I didn't know what that song was. And they'll be love love. You said in 10 years time, and that song is called Five Years Time.
Starting point is 01:59:04 So it was relevant. Had you heard that song before the movie? see through and they'll be love, love. You said in 10 years time and that song is called Five Years Time. So it was relevant. Had you heard that song before the movie? Yeah, and that's why I didn't, it's the only thing that didn't work for me in the movie. Yeah, I know the song like the back of my hand. And so it was so, and it so doesn't have that vibe for me. It has like beach with my ex vibe.
Starting point is 01:59:20 So personal problem. Al Rensha. I never heard it so it's funny. Al Rentsch and the chat is saying Greg is right about Pedro dry humping Vanessa. Aaron I know you haven't been catching up with it but it's all true. Dang. He is dry humping left and right. Like an up and down. Who wouldn't let Pedro dry hump you? I would. Pedro Pascal. I certainly would. I wouldn't let me go further but a dry hump is dry. I would I know yeah, I'm secret. Oh my right legs for you Pedro Alexander Rivera Hey bud, this movie was awesome
Starting point is 01:59:57 Definitely my favorite of the fantastic four movies The family aspect is so strong unlike previous adaptations where they barely felt like coworkers, let alone a family. Okay, so let me ask you guys a controversial question. Hit me. Get ready. Things are gonna get explosive here. Na na na na na. Is there anything in the previous Fantastic Four movies
Starting point is 02:00:17 that you thought they did better than this one? Some, you know, I felt like we didn't get a lot of Ben's backstory or like emotional arc. So I don't know that that would have been better previously as much as I'm looking forward to the future of that with this because there was parts of different iterations of Ben that I've been more attached to because I felt more for him.
Starting point is 02:00:48 Like here things seemingly were going pretty well. Like Natasha digs him, like he has a love interest and like he seems to not like have too many qualms with what happened to him. And that can't be true, right? So. I did miss some of the tension between Johnny and Ben's relationship.
Starting point is 02:01:08 I think some of it was there, but it was significantly dialed back because they wanted them to be more unified. But if we got to see some of their more contentious aspects of their relationship, I think it would've been really great. And I feel like they did that really well in the previous iteration.
Starting point is 02:01:20 We have time. We do. Yeah. I mean, it's really hard to beat Chris Evans for me. I just think he's the best. He's really funny. He fit that really well. I mean, Boston Proud.
Starting point is 02:01:33 Yeah. Love that man. I think Joseph Quinn had a really tall order here. You know, I think you would be compared to that. I prefer Joseph Quinn's version. That's amazing. That's really good. Yeah, but I mean Chris Evans is everything.
Starting point is 02:01:48 Yeah. He's so great. I think they're doing different things. Yes, exactly. So I like them both. Couldn't disagree more. Greg thinks they're doing the exact same thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:59 Alex, although I'm glad we finally see a Dr. Doom tease, I am glad Alex sent us a super chat there. I do wish they went with the approach of actually using RDJ and not a stand-in and should have shown his face or voice. I saw during the live chat that, I think they said Brandon Davis said that that actually was Robert Downey Jr. there.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Which I don't. Oh, is that your best friend now? Oh, you love him so much now that he's been on the show. Is it all about BD? I wonder if he's heard that before. Of course he has. I think that's why he goes by BD. He knows, he knows what he's planting in people's brains.
Starting point is 02:02:41 That's a lot to live up to. Imagine you hear that and then you get down there and you're like, ah, L.D. I gotta imagine, L.D. As you've called L.D., that would be worse. No, that's better. It's why I used to always want people to refer to me as Chunk before they met me.
Starting point is 02:02:54 And then I walk in the room and your expectations are low. Ah, yeah. And then I walk in and they're like, oh, not too bad. That's such a Larry David moment you just had. Yeah, he is one of my idols. My feet are so asleep right now and we didn't bring in my pillow thing. I'm dying. Keep going. I'm sorry. You want some Tiger Ball? Although I'm glad. Okay. Yeah, I heard a rumor that
Starting point is 02:03:20 that actually won't. Oh, actually, no, right here. C Black. It was in the live stream chat. C Black said Brandon Davis said that was already jay in the post credits and Shakman told him during an interview saving the reveal for Doomsday, that's shocking Shocking that they wouldn't yeah have him It looked like a stand-in it really did it really did that's to me. At least show his eyes or something. Do you think that's true? Like just a minor dialogue. I think, no.
Starting point is 02:03:49 I don't know, maybe there's a version with it, but I think the big question that it comes down to is is his face gonna be scarred or not? So that's why you think that they didn't? I don't think his face is scarred, and I think that would've let everyone in an uproar if his face is not scarred. Okay, okay. You know? You think't think his face is scarred, and I think that would've let everyone in an uproar if his face is not scarred.
Starting point is 02:04:06 Okay. You know? You think it's not gonna be scarred because it's RDJ? You've read more Doom comics than me, so I know that there are some iterations where he scolds it to him face, and some iterations where you believe he's horribly scarred but it's really something very minor,
Starting point is 02:04:22 but he just is so vain that he masked himself. Which direction do you feel like they're gonna go with that? Well, he just said he didn't think he was gonna be scarred. Okay. So I think neither. If I were to make a theory right now, I think he was scarred and Franklin healed his wounds.
Starting point is 02:04:40 And that's why he was touching his face. Fair, fair. He's rubbing ointment in it. Yeah. Just like it hurts. Yeah, Franklin didn't use frankly they use powers he used science he used doctor medicine That doctor doom did not get his hands on Breast milk would be amazing. That's what the Pedro is drinking during the entire press tour Yes Press tour a lot of wounds. No joke. Yeah, this is healing his anxiety
Starting point is 02:05:18 Musical misery trying to figure out the coral chant lyric for Galactus silver surfer suite and the lightspeed of your life Is it in Latin? Roxie you should have the answer to this question. You know you're supposed to be an expert here is The chant lyrics for the Galactus silver surfer suite and the light speed of your life song. Is that in Latin? No There you go. It was not in there you go. You have your answer people You know Latin. Yeah, she speaks perfect Latin I don't speak perfect Latin, but I did take a couple years of Latin prior to the SATs So it is possible that they were using that as part of an origin, but they wouldn't have,
Starting point is 02:05:48 I don't think that this movie would have made an entire, the entire language that we don't know is Latin. That doesn't make sense to me. What if it was? I only learned like the prefixes or whatever, and then the pre and post whatever it's called. Oh what, when did this happen? Oh you didn't know Ozzy Osbourne passed away?
Starting point is 02:06:09 Yeah. Five days ago. Oh my god, I just heard about it in the chat, dang. It happens in threes. We lost Michael J. Rock Warner. I'm a little late on some of this news. And K-Rock played 24 hours of Ozzy. You hear about Hulk Hogan too?
Starting point is 02:06:23 You listen to K-Rock? Yeah, I heard about Hulk Hogan. Do you not listen to K-Rock? No, I have Spotify now. Um, Rock and Roll Girlie. I like the radio. I do listen to Apple music. I did grow up on Loveline though, on K-Rock. Every night.
Starting point is 02:06:36 That was amazing. K-Rock! Anyway. Uh, yeah, let's go back here. Alexander Rivera, the am- thank you Alexander. The amount of things Silver Surfer actually surfed is sensational. She surfed, oh, let's hear this. She surfed lava, water, and a black hole.
Starting point is 02:06:53 She casually escaped a black hole and flew around the earth in second. She was badass. Yeah, she was. You wanna know, I love that Johnny thought that she was, that that might be part of her body. That was cracked. That was like such a funny theory.
Starting point is 02:07:06 And then when he sees her nod on, and he's like, okay, so it's not part of body, okay. Thinking about how he was trying to navigate in his mind, like, how would I deal with it if it is part of her body? Caress? Can she feel the surfboard? Yeah, I love that chase scene, man. Really showed how scary Silver Surfer can be.
Starting point is 02:07:25 That's what I like, Silver Surfer's scary in that scene. Yeah. I also love when she came into the ship and you see the light reflecting on her, the red light. I was like, oh, that's so sick. That's such a smart use of showing somebody who's chrome. So you guys think he was a smart? Sorry, I completely just cut you off.
Starting point is 02:07:39 No, it's not our school, how the environment responded to her. I'm letting that settle in. Punishing myself. Quinn Howard the third is saying, love the content, watch all the time every day, we're Stranger Things today. Well thank you for the super chat
Starting point is 02:07:53 and yeah we're having some copyright issues but we should be able to get that up tomorrow morning. We're doing the best we can. Doing the best we can. You know who else does the best he can? Johnny. Yes, yes he does. John Humphrey is constantly doing the best he can.
Starting point is 02:08:07 I meant Johnny Storm. Oh, both. Definitely both. I think John will probably prefer Johnny Storm. He learned Latin, not Latin for his baby. Let's see here. Never Lose Your Nerd. What's up, buddy?
Starting point is 02:08:20 What an amazing movie. Sue Storm was the best part. Finally, some love for some Sue Storm in here. Was she your favorite? You said Johnny was your favorite. Who would be your second favorite? Sue? Sue is my favorite and Reed is my second favorite.
Starting point is 02:08:32 Reed was your second favorite, huh? Yeah. Okay. And it's, we haven't really talked about this yet, but I think his plan was, I think it was the perfect kind of Reed Richards thing to do because I'm like, it doesn't, not that it doesn't make sense, but it was the perfect kind of Reed Richards thing to do because I'm like, it doesn't, not that it doesn't make sense,
Starting point is 02:08:46 but it's extremely reckless. And I felt like, yeah, this is the same guy that would take his family to space and have them actually get messed up by some cosmic rays. But for, because like Galactus made her go into labor by just looking at her. And I'm like, you don't want to think about this a little more, just like, yeah,
Starting point is 02:09:05 we're gonna have them go in this thing, we're gonna use our baby, we do an old switcheroo, and then that's how we're gonna trap them. I'm like, you don't really know a lot about Galactus. Are you sure that this is the plan you wanna go with? Ha ha ha ha. That's the shit, man. I'm like, that's highly risky.
Starting point is 02:09:21 I'm like, it's kinda crazy, but low-key respected. Let's just be silent. I think like, it's kind of crazy, but low key respected. Let's just be silent. I think after every time Aaron talks, we should just be silent for like 10 seconds. No, I just decided I'm never cutting you off ever again. So I was waiting till the end and then maybe you had another thing to say. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:09:38 It could have come to you in like four seconds. So I was just waiting. Just letting it simmer. I've been sitting, waiting, wishing. You believe in superstition. I know that song. Okay, Jack Johnson. Jack Johnson, still listen to him.
Starting point is 02:09:54 Although only the old songs. I don't even know if he makes new songs. Make a banana pancakes, but didn't look it so we can. Doing like a chili pepper version of Jack Johnson. That's what it sounds like to me. All right, Greg, what happened, dude? With what? Again doing like a chili peppers version of Jack Johnson All right, Greg what happened dude with what what's the next question dog dude, I fucking got this shit homie clearly Brett TL Do you guys think this fat forecast will get a second movie or will it just be continued ended in doomsday secret wars long-time listener? First time super chat. Oh, thank you Brett TL This also reminds me bump into a guy named Max yesterday at the screening and he's like hey big fan real rejects
Starting point is 02:10:30 Watch the podcast all the time when people say the podcast makes me so happy shout out to Max shout out to Max Max Um, I hope we get more fan. That would kind of suck if we only get them in the crossover movies We don't get trilogy. This is their trilogy. You think they'll be Fantastic Four 2? Yeah, yeah. You think so? I'd be surprised if we don't get another one. And this one looks to be like a big hit, right?
Starting point is 02:10:52 Is it tracking well? I think it's tracking pretty well, right? Yeah, I think so too. Their sequel's a soft reboot because it's gonna be in the main MCU. Because it's not gonna be retro 60s anymore. But you do think that it will be Fantastic Four 2? I'm not even to call it that.
Starting point is 02:11:05 No, no, I mean a different title, but just Fantastic Four something. Yeah, it's gonna see both of them. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I'd be surprised if they don't. Yeah, people seem to really love them. Is it tracking well? Fantastic Four, second steps.
Starting point is 02:11:19 Yeah. Yeah, you should write for Hollywood. Geek factor. I think F4 has a great message for every new mother out there. All right, let's hear it. When your baby needs you, it won't even let you be dead for more than a minute.
Starting point is 02:11:34 Love you. Accurate. Yeah. Accurate. Did you notice fake baby a lot? Oh yeah, I call it out to my girl when we were talking. I'm like, that's a very CGI baby. Fake babies hands were struggling.
Starting point is 02:11:52 The hands were tough. It was the one part that was kind of pulling me out of the moment when Sue's supposed to be dead. It's like they were cut to Franklin crying. I'm like, that baby's not there. What the hell's going on here? But I would rather that that's not a the baby's not there. That was going on. I would rather that than them. I think I think make a baby cry.
Starting point is 02:12:10 OK, slap the kid, roll the camera. He'll never know and never remember. Slap the kid, slap the kid, roll the camera. Although the first time Greg, see if that sells the first probably will. The first time the first time, like when Pedro is just holding the baby and then they're pushing galactus into the teleportation that looked real when the baby was crying But it was it was more when Sue was dying Yeah, definitely I'd be surprised I mean some of those if it was fake the whole time then they deserve a lot of credit Definitely real and I thought they were very tasteful with the amount of like pregnancy gunk on the baby once you pulled it out
Starting point is 02:12:44 It was like a little bit had a little bit of stuff on it could use more blood could use a lot more blood Yeah, and a little more shit. Maybe just some of it was invisible. Yeah visible shit She'd be the perfect wife right and visible shit. It still smells probably hit Ben in the eye on the atmosphere But they'd be able to They would be able to probably create some type of device in their toilet where they can get rid of the smell.
Starting point is 02:13:10 Which you never see it. Poopery. Poopery. Poopery. Yeah. What do you guys think? Do you think Sue Storm can make her shit invisible? Leave it down in the comments below.
Starting point is 02:13:21 Chadwick Myers here. Hey buddy, good to see you again. I met more than five second of shirtlessless Ben like him rip it off in the finale It's a small nitpick and I like that he wears clothes casually But still is it a nitpick or a nip nip pick, baby. Yeah I I would have liked to have more. I think he looks so cool when he was pulling this shirt to the ship shirtless He looked awesome in that shot. I don't remember it. Oh, it was a beautiful shot.
Starting point is 02:13:46 Was it in the first five minutes? It was in the montage, yeah. It was reminiscent of when. Yeah, it was a hard time. I gotta re-watch it. Yeah, it was like when BVS, when Superman was pulling it, Ben was doing the same thing. I believe you.
Starting point is 02:13:59 It was closer on him. But yeah, it's true, it actually didn't dawn on me until this conversation that, hashtag believe men, it didn't dawn on me until this conversation that hashtag believe men It didn't didn't dawn on me until this conversation that we don't really see him shirtless and this whole movie and That's kind of his iconic look is to be shirtless My theory was false when we reacted to the first trailer I was like, oh, I think part of his arc is gonna be that he's gonna Embrace that he's a rocky man and take your shirt off. But no they didn't do that
Starting point is 02:14:24 They didn't damn shirt the whole time. I don't know why I like I like shirtless Ben too I agree with you guy Christian unpronounceable hey friend do you think Noren rad was on her planet no I think in her universe no I think we have noran rad in our universe though you Yeah You would know better than I would I mean I have no fucking idea Be the case though, right? Yeah, I feel like there might have there should have been some reference to that if noran rad was on the planet But it would make more sense to me that this is shallow ball and noran rad would be here Well when when they say on her planet do they mean on?
Starting point is 02:15:02 The plan that she protected the plan she's from her daughter on the beach was yeah, Beach daughter Pld projects. I wonder who that could be. Hey bud Hey, homie, I just wanted to pop in to say hey to some awesome people Superman Thunderbolts Fantastic Four, but I loved all three. I love living in a time where comic book films are unafraid to be unapologetic comic bookie That's a really good point. I think that was one of the best flavors about both Fantastic Four and Superman
Starting point is 02:15:30 is they were so comic book heavy, and Thunderbolt's less so. But do you think that's good actually? What? That they're so comic book heavy, like for maybe for us. Yes, I think we, cause we need, we need to, we didn't mix it up, we need to shake it up, you you know before it was like when we were trying to be comic bookie Sometimes they succeed like a Batman or the original Superman which felt like comic bookie
Starting point is 02:15:52 But then we reached the point we're like now I need to be real, you know We need to be bad. Everyone needs to be Batman begins dark and greedy Realism now, yeah, I'm gonna tone it down. We're bracing more fantastical. Yeah, I think we had to Crawl our way to this point I think funny enough if like James Gunn doing garden of the galaxy and allowing more weird abstract things like a talking raccoon in a tree And grounding them in real emotions. I think Ease people like into the idea of having comic book movies that were a little bit more weird.
Starting point is 02:16:25 Even though that was a comic book movie that wasn't necessarily comic book-y, I feel like him going from that and then doing things that progressively were weirder eased us into a place where comic book-y things were the norm. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:16:43 Okay. Yeah baby. Now you can keep talking. We're not allowed to do that. Yeah. I feel supported. This is great. That's what I was hoping for. My foot is so on fire. Why?
Starting point is 02:17:00 Because you don't know what it's like to not have your legs touch the ground for hours. You sure you don't want the it's like to not have your legs touch the ground for hours You sure you don't want this tiger mom that will not help keep going watch call at 230 keep going All right Here we go. Here we go one more time Drake kid him I really like the movie, but I do feel like the Galactus backstory wasn't explained Well, all I took from it was I'm hungry, which was underwhelming to me.
Starting point is 02:17:27 I hope for more from his story motive. I feel like that works for the film though, because you don't wanna give away too much. You have that mysterious Paul cast over, that way it lends itself more to I don't know what to do on how to defeat this thing that I don't know much about. I think it actually adds to the stakes so you don't really know what his backstory is.
Starting point is 02:17:47 I agree with you. Something that I said right after watching the movie was that I think that they put a perfect amount because I think we're so obsessed with knowing why villains are the way they are. And I think we'll obviously get to more on his story, but good enough, I'm hungry, give me your baby. I totally understood what he was asking for. It wasn't confusing
Starting point is 02:18:07 Yeah, I liked her line surface surface line. Like he doesn't want he feeds and like yeah, I'm hungry I'll give you I'm eat your plan there. I don't want your baby. Yeah, give me that baby And I was cool with that. All right guys gonna give a heads up in two minutes We are gonna disable the super chat. So no one will be able to contribute more. Thank you to everyone who did already But we will make sure to continue and go through the rest that we have definitely got here And I'm seeing you guys in the chat. I know we're a few minutes behind Slap the kid It's catching on Roxy slap. Yes. It is so
Starting point is 02:18:39 Slap the camera that kid slap that kid that kid don't slap the baby find slap the baby find The baby has to slap the face. So if we should make hashtag south the baby trending on X Yeah, I see you guys in the chat. If you're here, please leave a like. All right, here we go. Here we go Rick all my favorite little cameo Detail was the two guys looking out the comic book shop when silver surfer arrived Oh, that's cool. Beautiful tribute to Jack Kirby and Stan Lee. Love the movie, 10 out of 10. Herbie was my MVP.
Starting point is 02:19:07 We haven't talked much about Herbie. Who wants to go first? Someone give 30 seconds, quick thoughts. Herbie was cute and it was awesome. You're mine to be of Wally and yeah, you need more Herbie in my life. Wow, way to bring the enthusiasm. Roxy.
Starting point is 02:19:23 I like Herbie also and I felt bad for Herbie when just like having to watch Franklin and then get demoed as Galactus comes through. Like Herbie didn't stand a chance. But yeah, I think purpose served. Herbie lived, right? We saw Herbie again. I don't know, but he did get rocked.
Starting point is 02:19:44 Because I was paying, I don't know, Herbie didn't right? We saw Herbie again? I don't know, but he did get rocked. Because I was paying, I don't know if Herbie didn't get a death scene, but when I was watching the second time, I can't recall if we saw Herbie after that scene. I don't think so. Even if he's demoed, he's still fine. We don't know that. That depends on your definition of what a robot is.
Starting point is 02:20:00 What if the memories of Herbie are now gone and it's lost all those memories? That's not how it works? That could totally be how it works. With a robot? Yes, if a robot is becoming AI. Did you just watch the Apple TV series? I mean, it depends on the kind of robot that it is.
Starting point is 02:20:13 You're always backed up. Like your digestive system. That's facts, man. Bowels. It's disrespectful, because it's true. Plugged up. I am always backed up. Well, you's true. Plugged up. I'm sorry. Well, you know, it's not backed up. Our super chats are definitely backed
Starting point is 02:20:30 up. Actually, Mike Joyce. Hey, Mike Joyce. Late. Sorry if I already mentioned too bad. Avatar is coming out this year because that black hole sequence alone would have earned F for a visual effect Oscar. I definitely didn't.
Starting point is 02:20:41 React to it when it accidentally went online. But yeah. Yeah, but Avatar's got that unlock, you're right. I cannot wait to see that new Avatar movie. It's weird. A lot of people love that first Avatar, and then the second one came out, and people were like,
Starting point is 02:20:59 I don't know, I'm kind of over this. And I'm like, wait, I'm way more in. I love that one. I like second one way more than the first. You guys like those Avatar films? Yeah. I'm kind of over this and I'm like, wait, I'm way more in. I love that one. I like second one way more than the first. You guys like those Avatar films? Yeah. I'm into it. I did that.
Starting point is 02:21:09 No, I'm into it for sure. I was like, ah. I didn't, is Avatar spoilers? Something happens to the third act and I was like, ah. I don't think we got enough of that for me to be invested. The trailer didn't get me too hyped. I was like, all right, cool, number three. But maybe the third one will change my tune.
Starting point is 02:21:26 But it didn't sound. They just look so sick, man. It's just like visually, if you're a little stoner child like me, there's nothing about seeing Avatar movies that isn't exciting. Yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, they just look cool. Best video game ever.
Starting point is 02:21:39 Charles Smith personally hated Superman. What? Well, now I take personal offense to your opinion. But now liked, but liked F4 a lot. I think it's the best Marvel film since Infinity War. Whoa, didn't say since Endgame. Would you call this the best one since, what was your favorite one since Endgame?
Starting point is 02:21:56 No Way Home's your favorite amongst the ones since Endgame, okay. Yeah, I think so. I think No Way Home, like Superman, is a messier movie, but I think I like it more than this one. There's just so many fist pump moments in that movie where you're just like, I've been waiting for this my whole life.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Yeah. And all the hype around it too. I still think I prefer Thunderbolts over Fantastic Four. Really? But since Endgame? I mean, yeah, but I think even in Fantastic Four comparison, I think Thunderbolts actually starts- But you're saying Thunderbolts is your favorite movie since Endgame? I mean, yeah, but I think even in Fantastic Four comparison, I think Thunderbolts actually. But you're saying Thunderbolts is your favorite movie
Starting point is 02:22:28 since Endgame, MCU movie? I'd probably say that, yeah. The not, I mean. It was very good. Event Cinema though, you know, my home definitely was Event Cinema in my mind. And it's weird for how many movies are in the MCU. I feel like this is one of the few
Starting point is 02:22:41 that feels like a superhero movie. Like they're saving people on a grand scale movie like they're saving people on a grand scale But they're saving people on a small scale and it embraces the weirdness of comic books So I think this is top tier MCU for me. Yeah, I like yeah, I like did more than Thunderbolts cuz yeah I have my reasons not a Thunderbolts review, but um, yeah, that's that's why I feel. All right. All right Well, your feelings are wrong now like I Didn't say that I think Feel differently is what I say
Starting point is 02:23:15 Just got home from watching fantastic four and I enjoyed it. I'm curious to see how the team factors into doomsday I love how they give him much away, but I needed more after that mid credit scene. So hyped I Will say though even though for us, it's pretty predictable that, yeah, it's probably a doom in the post credit scene. I saw some people in that theater pretty pumped. Yeah, that's cool. Some people were pretty pumped. They were really, really excited. I'm happy for them. You don't have the burden of knowledge
Starting point is 02:23:32 and being in the loop of the news. That's fair. Say that way. Hold on, I'm turning off. Disabling the super chats, Malik, you got the last one in. Congratulations, Malik, of that one. Robert Pursuer, hope you guys are having a weekend.
Starting point is 02:23:47 Yes, we have made it to Saturday. Yes, we are having a weekend. I think I'll go you're saying no not much. I think what Sue came I think you're having a week like are you going to enjoy like a weekend where you can actually enjoy, relax, kick back, we're not at work on Saturday. I think when Sue came back to life her eyes looked like Star Lord's eyes. She was getting hit with the cosmic I believe which would make sense Star Lord ego when it was showing his power and guard is the galaxy too. Her eyes had that same purple starry look. Yep um I think that was very intentional and I believe you caught on correctly Robert. Power cosmic. Power cosmic. Go Robert you're wicked smart dude way to find it Okay, Kevin Meek is always one of our top questions in our reviews Kevin Rocks when we are doing our reactions
Starting point is 02:24:32 And now here he is with a very generous super chat. Thank you Let's go Kevin always good to see you guys. This movie did not land for me. Oh, well, I'm sorry Fortunately gave a really high super chat so I won't take you down Their world came across as a weird step for wives Whoville universe. Yes, it was the idealization of the 60s. Writing seemed convenient, just my shitty opinion. No, no, you gave $50.
Starting point is 02:24:56 I kinda get. Very happy to be in the minority, it's still excited, much love. If you don't vibe with this dynamic and this, the 60s, the Jetsons, like if this isn't, if that's not your vibe, then you're not gonna love the movie. And I, with the convenient note,
Starting point is 02:25:14 that was, as you heard me say to Aaron earlier, that was my one like kind of qualm with this movie was that everybody was just kind of like going along with things. Like oh yeah, no worries, because I felt like they didn't want to, they didn't have time to have actual attention there. I happen to love the aesthetic of this,
Starting point is 02:25:31 but I think it's completely valid for this movie, Superman, any movie, to just say you don't like something is totally fine. And I'm glad that you still liked it, other people liked it, that makes you a normal person. Well, can I ask you in a similar way, did that bother you in Superman, when people were like, oh, screw Superman, his parents are bad.
Starting point is 02:25:47 And then at the end, they're like, oh, we love Superman again. But I feel like that's true to society, where people are, you know, released the Epstein files, and then now we're finally turning on you, because you didn't really, people changed their mind drastically, so I thought that that was more realistic,
Starting point is 02:26:05 how many people turned on Superman so fast. They didn't turn on Fantastic Four so fast and they're being told to go underground and they're like, yeah, word. So it didn't play the same. Because something's coming to eat them. Yeah, totally. I would do that too, but think about this world.
Starting point is 02:26:20 You really think everybody's gonna just do that? You don't think that there are tons of people who'd be like, I don't trust you, I don't believe you. You're a liar. I'm not taking the vaccine Yeah, we have time for that That's why it's a nitpick right but that was hold on hold on Herbie is alive. He is because he's in the post credits Is because he's in the post credits You thank you chat for reminding me totally forgot that he was there totally so he slipped my mind
Starting point is 02:26:55 Thank you. Only a few more For you more here and then a super chat stream lab and and then Roxy leaves swearing at me droopy McCude McCool my bad mccuid Look up the clip of pedra caressing william defoe lady. Not cool Uh, he's done more than whole hands. It looks like a pattern this combo seems one-sided What I challenged some of that for which Combo seems one side of that. We're not exploring the possibility that Pedro is indeed a creep, a pervert. That's why he's. Just because we don't agree with you
Starting point is 02:27:31 doesn't mean it's one-sided. That's hysterical. That's how Pedro's made it this far. I already referenced that video. He's perverted his weight at the top. Do you wanna see Sue Storm get wooed by Namor in this new movie? Seems like Sue Storm said,
Starting point is 02:27:44 Vanessa Kirby talked about this a few years ago. Did she really? Yeah,? Seems like Sue Storm said, Vanessa Kirby talked about this. Did she really? Yeah, she was like, you know, it's exciting. And Pedro, I saw this interview, Pedro was just like, stop bringing up Namor. Yeah. That's so funny. He's like, I know you want Namor.
Starting point is 02:27:58 She's like, no, you're my first. Like, it was really cute the entire game. Oh, they know what they're doing. They're building hype. Yeah. They both woo her with Spanish at the same time. Oh yeah. It was really cute. They know what they're doing. They're building hype. Yeah, they both will hurt Spanish Listen the worst things have happened POD projects
Starting point is 02:28:15 People are getting pissy about it. I obviously have no right to do so until we hear something is non-consensual It's between Pedro Vanessa and their significant others. Look what you've done, Roxy. You've made us get more engagement. Thank you, thank you, thank you. More money, more people. Have we disabled the super chat stand? You did that on your own. I know, well we have to go.
Starting point is 02:28:37 I know. People who are getting pissed at you about it all say they have no right to do until we hear something is non-consensual. Yeah, that is true. I just don't understand in a world in which like this is taken like, oh no, oh no, it was on camera. Well, who's Vanessa Kirby's husband?
Starting point is 02:28:55 I don't know actually. Because you know, they could also be polyamorous and it's not a big deal too. This is true. Or they could be monogamous. He looks just like Pedro actually. And they're just touching somebody's hand. But if they're polyamorous, it's more forgiving
Starting point is 02:29:10 for even these people who are so mad at Pedro for touching his co-star. So weird. Kevin Meek, on a similar note, rest in peace Ozzy, big one for me, sucks man. I didn't know that till the stream. I'm so bummed for you, I wish you never found out. Yeah, that sucks.
Starting point is 02:29:27 You know he just went on his final tour, he raised like 190 million dollars for Parkinson's. Whoa, what a way to go out. An absolute gangster. It's real sad. What a way to go out. Like a metal star. Yeah, it was wild, him Malcolm Jemaw Warner
Starting point is 02:29:43 passing the 20th, Ozzy passing the 22nd, and then Hulk Hogan passing the 24th. There's another one, right? Hulk Hogan. No, there's someone else who passed. I can't remember who. I don't know. OK. I'm forgetting, but yes, rest in peace.
Starting point is 02:29:55 A lot of deaths this week. Really awful. Yeah. Transition this. Yeah. Oh, no, just watch. But thank you for the super chat on Brett TL Do you guys think we got a doom versus Loki scene in doomsday? Oh, yeah Loki is coming back
Starting point is 02:30:13 So we're gonna have a century in there Loki But isn't Loki like where's Loki gonna go? Yeah, can we just rewrite the story or something? I forget what Loki can do with those power sets now that he's at. But yeah, I don't think we'll get that fight scene. Although, it will be kinda cool.
Starting point is 02:30:35 Maybe, because people are obsessed with Loki. RDJ posted a photo today of Iron Man versus Doom. What? And I think some people are concluding that it is a tease that we will get the return of Robert Downey Jr. as Iron Man. People have predicted that. And he will fight Dr. Doom.
Starting point is 02:30:53 This is when they soft launch their new Iron Man for their new MCU. Just with a yes or no, do you guys want that or no? Yes or no? Tony coming back? Yeah, against Dr. Doom. I wouldn't be mad if it's another universe's Tony, not if it's this universe's Tony.
Starting point is 02:31:07 So yes? I wouldn't be mad at it, I'm for it. Yes? Yeah. Yeah, no, no. I don't think he should come back as Tony at all. I think we have to, especially when Kevin Feige's out there being like, one day we will recast
Starting point is 02:31:22 all these people, it's like, well then you really have to commit to that. Keep us, not remind us of him as Tony Stark at all costs then. Only if it's Iron Man with an actual alcohol problem. That's the only way I'll accept it. Yeah, I like alcoholics.
Starting point is 02:31:37 Alan Smithy. A weird moment from both of you. Hey, Rejects, you gonna react to Happy Gilmore 2? Man, you should put your notification bells on, because Aaron, John and andrew their reaction to it went up this morning I was supposed to be on that. I know but andrew Cried, I know and so I was like fine. I know he sent me a text about it. I was like no worries Uh, I love that guy. He can do no wrong. Did you watch it? I haven't seen it yet
Starting point is 02:32:03 No, I haven't i've heard that it was and tell yet. No I haven't. I've heard that it was, and tell me if this is right or wrong, I've heard that it's awful and so lovable. What? Lovable, yes. Awful? What did you guys smoke, dude? I don't know, I haven't watched it.
Starting point is 02:32:15 I loved it. It was great. Audiences love it. It's Adam Sandler. Yeah. I'm a diehard Adam Sandler fan. Usually people with like, the opinions don't like him,
Starting point is 02:32:23 but audiences love his movies. It's not a movie that I've written that I haven't written him into I love that man On his short opinion if you like the first one you likely like the second one It's just a little bit more stuffed But I feel like it has more heart as well if you like the first one are there people who don't like the first one Yeah, I don't know. I just saw the first one recently like what a year ago. I reacted to it Malik is the last one of the supers. I was also excited to see sue see sue finally show off her abilities She's the strongest on the team and the movies never did her justice until now no more news bleeds are her yelling I can't hold it see sue was a movie. I reacted to on this channel. It's one my favorite movies
Starting point is 02:33:02 I ever reacted to has a great time. I remember that Yes, I asked you see sue. Oh Was a movie I reacted to on this channel. It's one of my favorite movies. I ever reacted to has a great time I remember that You see soo. Oh Not relevant to this but you said see soo that moment with the power sequence that those are some of the most underrated Acting moments to me because it's so she has no fucking clue what it looks like I know know what it's gonna translate to, you probably feel like a stupid ass when you're doing that shit, and then you hope that by the time the final cut comes out, it doesn't look stupid.
Starting point is 02:33:33 You don't look consummated or weird, yeah. Funny enough, I watched interviews with Vanessa Kirby, and they actually talked a lot about how it would look, how it would feel to use her powers, and what she had some sense of being informed about what it's like to be sue Some but like she's not seeing it. Yeah looking at a screen wall Yeah, it's like in X-Men Dark Phoenix the final Michael Friesen

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