The Reel Rejects - Fantastic Four MAJOR Reveals, Thunderbolts Box Office STRUGGLES, Superman NEW First Looks, & MORE!

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:19 and just a bit Citizens of the Reject Nation your eyes do not deceive you I am coy Greg is on an adventure
Starting point is 00:00:26 so today I am joined by the one and only Andrew fellow geek checked on the other side of the table. We're going to talk today about that fantastic four footage that recently debuted. We're going to talk about those new Superman posters and I
Starting point is 00:00:39 believe the ramifications there and we're going to talk about some box office stuff. I know Andrew's really excited to break some box office down and people always ask, why do you bother with the box office? Well, show business, the business half keeps the show going so if movies don't make money, we don't make any more of them. So we're going to talk about box office a little bit. I love one of my favorite things about this season is
Starting point is 00:00:56 summer movie previews. I used to buy actual magazines and dive into those. I love a summer movie previews. We're also going to do a bit of that as well. And we got some good news for John with some Blumhouse talk with a little franchise called Saw. So we got a lot of news to discover. And you get to discover it in real. We're going to a live audio reaction from John about some Saw Blum coming later in this episode. As always, if you guys want to jump around, if you're like, man, I'm excited about those Superman posters. But I have no interest in John's excitement. One, shame on you. But two, we got chapters down below so you guys can hop around the episode. I'm excited to steer this vessel today because I love movie news, but I love
Starting point is 00:01:42 it coming from a place of like emotional context. And I feel like you and I are going to have fun with the summer breakdown stuff as we go along. But first, we got to talk fantastic for it. Let's do it. Which is, I would argue, one of the biggest summer events for Marvel in some time. It feels very impactful it feels big like we're starting to get to that point in the summer movie season where the movies feel palpable and like they are not tangible but like there's an energy in the air like there's a there's a pulse now for fantastic four uh before i describe this footage one how are you two what are you feeling fantastic for west i'm doing great thank you for asking i'm excited i mean i've said for many years now my favorite fantastic four film is still the incredibles i adore that film so
Starting point is 00:02:26 I know it's been years in the making now, having the Fantastic Four in the MCU. So there's a lot of pressure on this film. But I think we've talked about this many times. I try to steer away from as many trailers or footage as I can. I've seen the first trailer. I loved what I saw there. But I love the four actors that we have playing Mr. Fantastic, the Invisible Woman. We've got the Human Torch and we've got the thing.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I think so far again in the trailer, I love the chemistry between them, the interactions seem so sincere. You feel that history dynamic. I think that's the biggest thing I'm looking for right now besides a great story and like that threat level from Galactus and obviously seeing the Silver Surfer is I want to feel that that family dynamic.
Starting point is 00:03:11 That's the biggest thing I'm going to be looking for in the film. And again, so far, I'm an optimist. I always have been. I've never really been a pessimist when it comes to films. even if something doesn't really, like, look great. Yeah. Like, I will judge it on film when I see it. It was not out until it's out.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, I learned the lesson from my, sorry, I'm going to call my dad out here a little bit. This has nothing to do with Fantastic Four. It's just about being a pessimist. I remember when Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker in the Dark Night. And I told him, I was like, Dad, Heath Ledger's cast as the Joker in the Dark Night, which I was cool with this pick, by the way, because I'd seen a couple films of his and I'd love them. And he was like, no, Gibson's.
Starting point is 00:03:51 son in the Patriot? He's like, yeah, yeah, right? Well, we'd watch that movie. We'd love the Patriot, but that was what he said. And he's like, I liked him in that movie. He's not the Joker. Jack Nicholson is. Right? And I was like, hey, I love Christopher Norman. I trust him. I'm gonna, I'll judge it after I see the movie. But I think that's a good pick. Halfway into the movie, I go, what do you think of Heath Ledger's Safari? He goes, I was completely wrong. He's amazing. He's the best Joker ever. And this is the best Batman movie ever. I was like, I think that the whole point is don't judge a book by its cover wait till you see the film whether you're extremely excited or whether you are a pessimist just wait till you see the film but so far
Starting point is 00:04:27 it looks good to me i'm excited i think the possibilities are endless and hopefully this will be better than the incredibles if not i still got the incredibles but i'm excited i really am it's funny to me we get a new one of these every 10 years 95 2005 2015 2025 that's a good point i didn't think about that oh right the 95 was at the roger core we've literally got no one's ever seen that right I mean, like, not us, but one a decade is fascinating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, just the synchronicity of that. Um, so we are due for our Fantastic Four film.
Starting point is 00:04:56 We did get footage at the, uh, I believe John was it CXP. Is that the acronym for this con? C C C CXP. Two Cs. I apologize. I forgot a second C. C C CXP footage, uh, was described as being from more the middle of the movie than the climax.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Uh, and that it is the Fantastic Four fleeing a planet that is being consumed by Galactus. Once again, Galactus. is being described as a scene stealer by folks that's actually terrifying a lot of reports out of the first screenings of the film is how great Galactus was. We get the big pop of the footage, though, is Sue Storm going into labor,
Starting point is 00:05:30 which is certainly a Marvel first. I hope there is so much pearl clutching from folks that want to see clavicles and internals. How dare there be recreational or procreational activity? But I'm very curious how they handle the first family actually becoming a family. We see the labor happening.
Starting point is 00:05:45 There's a hint of Franklin Richards and reality bending powers, which I am shocked they showed this early in the game. That feels a little premature, but you're trying to sell tickets. We're going to see how it plays out and how big of a part of the film that is. The team is being chased by the Silver Surfer,
Starting point is 00:06:00 which is probably trying to get Franklin, we imagine, with those level of powers. Or it is maybe the Silver Surfer trying to escape Galactus or maybe pursuing for Galactus. Could be a bunch of things considering the character. We also see a little of Reed using his power, helping Sue.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Have not seen a lot of stretchy read. We saw that one elongated moment in the last trailer. Thing is piloting the ship and is ordered to fly them into a black hole to escape. And Johnny is trying to fight off Silver Surfer. It is described as cosmic retrofuturist, big spectacle, and potentially tying into another Marvel film. Now, I think that the other Marvel film makes sense with this footage. I'm not going to say too much because not everyone has seen other Marvel film. but also I think that this is
Starting point is 00:06:46 it's a good amount of things to get hype but so far it does feel like it's not necessarily spoiling like I feel like out of context we knew she was pregnant so Franklin I would say but I get it we knew Galactus was in it like this feels like a little bit more shading in than I'd like but it doesn't feel like I'm like well now I know the movie
Starting point is 00:07:06 so what do you think of that footage description I mean it sounds good I think the biggest thing because there were parts in Rise of Silver Surfer I really enjoyed, but I think the big, a big weakness in that film was Galactus. So what we are hearing described here, that's something I want to see on the forefront. I really want to see Galactus feel like that menacing threat that he is in the comic books. I want to feel like, because we've got four O.P. styled characters here. I want to feel like there's no shot.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Like I always go back to, I know you always use the example when talking about the cat and lethal weapon, for instance. I always go back to Die Hard. In the first film, like, it feels like it's an impossible stakes for the character. or by the time we get to the end of that film, like he's done the impossible. He's Ethan Hunt at the end of that film, basically. I want to feel that in this film.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I want to feel the stakes. I want to feel like when they are fighting Galactus, they have no shot. Even on rewatch of the film, I want to feel like, how did they do this? Oh, they used Mr. Fantastic's brain. They came up with strategy. This is great.
Starting point is 00:08:07 This is intuitive, and it's making me think outside the box, and they're improvising on the spot in order to beat this impossible. threat. But in terms of like what's being described, it sounds great. I don't want to know anything else. I was going to ask you. Noel Beltran asks, and this ties directly into this for the podcast, in your opinion, how much early released content is too much? Teasers, trailers, exclusive clips, et cetera. That's a great question. See, none is too much. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:08:36 none, Annie, a frame. I want nothing. Yeah, it's our job. So obviously, there's times I have to do it, which that's part of the deal of what I signed up for, so I cannot complain. But I never want to really, truly watch anything. There's certain films more. I only watch trailers we react to. Yeah, no, me, I'm the same. The only time I've ever broken that,
Starting point is 00:08:54 which we're going to talk about later, is Happy Gilmore, too. Fair. I grew up with that film, so I'm like, Sue me. But other than that, I really, other than our trailer reactions, I don't watch trailers anymore. The problem is they give away too much.
Starting point is 00:09:07 And I get it. It's called show business, as you pointed out earlier, and we have to sell, We have to sell the product. Yeah, we have to sell the product. So in regards to that, the issue is when I see certain things, I think the best example I'll use is Star Wars Episode 9. Spoilers again, if you have not seen it.
Starting point is 00:09:24 There was a point in the film where they faked us out with Chubaca being dead, but I had seen the trailer already where I'm like, I knew there was more of him. I knew there was more of him. I figured he wasn't dead anyways, but again, because I had seen the trailer, I'm like, they showed Hulk catching Iron Man in Avengers. I remember that. Yes, I remember. And also too.
Starting point is 00:09:40 That's the climate. and cast away. They showed him getting off the island. Like, why would you show that? Like, it's still a great movie, but I got to imagine Robert Zemeckis when he watched that trailer. And he had no kids like, what? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:09:52 I don't watch any TV spots, not a one. I used to for covering stuff, but now we have enough, we have enough content coming out. I can avoid that because there's other news. Yeah. I love looking at posters. We're going to talk about posters a little bit with Superman.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I think posters are safe for the most part. And that gives me a sense of tone and joy. I watch usually the first trailer because we're covering it or if I want to know a director's tone and usually the first trailer is safe but I will leave the theater now and like wait and come back I'll be like two minutes nope I'll come back it's so funny you say that now because again I only go to the theater so minimally now but when I go I usually go with my older brother and and my father and they want to see the previews yeah so I'll go okay you guys I'll see in a minute yeah yeah you guys go in we got reserved seats yeah we got reserved seats you guys go in I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:10:39 the bathroom for about 10 minutes just text. 17 minutes. I'll be back. Text me when, text me when everything is when the movie starts rolling. I'll be right in. When heartbreak feels good in a place like this, I will settle in. Once Nicky's on screen. Yeah, but it's interesting because when I went to the theater, like, growing up,
Starting point is 00:10:55 I honestly, like, I prefer not to be spoiled, of course, but I didn't mind trailers that much. Granted. One more inundated that. It's changed. Yeah, for sure. Granted, like, besides castaway, that's just one example, but like, for the most part, I felt like most films didn't give away like a crazy. amount. Yeah. But that was something like
Starting point is 00:11:11 part of the event in the film was like I want to see these throughout. This looks incredible. I think it's a combination, right? I think one, we're more media savvy. Two, they feel like they have to show more because they have to get more butts in seats because costs are much higher all those things. Three, I do feel like the art of trailer
Starting point is 00:11:26 construction creation. Whatever you'd want to say, the editing of a trailer is an art, but I feel like those artists haven't gotten the leash they used to get. There's people suing over, you know, misrepresentation. There's people like and there's also the audience problem like I do think after enough user error you've got to blame the user and I think if you have to put a tiny little sneaky for your trailer before the trailer
Starting point is 00:11:49 because attention spans are so low there's no hope for humanity so like I don't want to see a trailer that has to appeal to the dumbest in order to sell me I'd rather just not see it because I know I already want to see it for sure no that's that's so true and it's it's interesting how my perspective on it has changed because I remember when we weren't able to like pull these up on our on our computer so fast. I remember downloading the episode one trailer and it took four days. Oh, Star Wars?
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah, yeah. It was this big and it took four days. Terminator 3, Rise of the Machines. It took me forever to download and was in such crappy quality. Because you wouldn't see, you just see the size of the file so you'd get it and be like. It was so bad. But I didn't get it was so happy.
Starting point is 00:12:26 The first time. Yeah. Even this big. Yeah. Dude, do you know how excited I was? It's not a great movie, but I don't care.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I was so pumped and excited to see the Batman and Robin trailer in Beater's. I was so pumped and like. Dude, Dude, the Godzilla trailer? Yeah. Where he dropped on the T-Rex. Oh, I mean, those are experiences. Just the trailers.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Godzilla, T-Rex? No, I'm talking about Hank Azaria, Godzilla. Yeah, yeah, where... With baby oil. Oh, yeah. The Big Oil song guy. Oh, yeah. But I was talking about...
Starting point is 00:12:52 I think there was a teaser where he... Sorry. I just got that. I just got that. But that's the song. I will not give him his credit because he's a horrible man. But that was the music of that trailer was so... awesome. Yeah. Like, and that trailer was so, like, it was the trailer of the summer. Like,
Starting point is 00:13:11 I was 10 and I just remember being like, what? Like, that was so cool. Yeah. And it was unexpected. I didn't even know that was coming out because we were very young. Yeah, for sure, for sure. But again, like, because the social media we don't have today, we, there were so many times, like, I had no idea that movie was coming out. And I'd be surprised seeing it on screen like that. It's like, truly it was a separate event from the movie. I think we're on the same page. Too much is too much. But I like a first trailer. I get needing a second trailer. I get needing a second trailer. There's a line. All right. And then also in the same conversation of marketing, we have a great question from Captain Fernandez saying, James Gunn isn't ashamed of how
Starting point is 00:13:48 colorful and outrageous some comics and characters can be. Are moviegoers on more grounded, if not outright, realistic takes on the genre ready for it? The reason I put this here is because we just got a vibrant array of posters, which seemed to reflect the vibrancy of the film. And that felt like that is kind of what you're asking because even these posters are more colorful than most current movies are today. Have you seen these posters? I just saw them right as we got here. Okay. There's a new set as of today. Did you see the news team ones? I don't think I saw. So that there's a hero. So just for you guys, your knowledge, the first batch they put out was like a medley of the more known characters. It was like a Superman, a crypto, a guy Gardner, a hawk girl,
Starting point is 00:14:34 a Mr. Terrific and I believe robot number four was the first medley if memory serves. And metamorpho? And metamorpho? I think those are the photos I did see. Mr. Terrific was the first one I saw. I was so stoked ready.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And the flag, I believe. And with all the bright colors in the background, right? And the engineer is the second round. So the second round was frenemies. The second round, it was frenemies and enemies. And it was Lex Luthor, the engineer. I want to say Rick Flag was in that set.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Metamorpho was curiously in that set for enemies and enemies. because he's usually like a reluctant hero. That was intriguing to me. So then was the second set. And then a lot of people were like, where's Lewis? And it's like, well, clearly you're doing this in sets. So the third set was meet the staff, which I enjoyed.
Starting point is 00:15:15 So meet the new staff or whatever they called it. And it was Lois Lane. Clark Kent got his own, which is, I enjoyed the look of the two different ones. There was Jimmy Olson. There was Perry White. There was. Cat Grant. Thank you, Cat Grant.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I did see the man. I did see the cat. Got one. Who? Mr. Steve Lump. got a poster with that glorious mustache Beck Bennett's at a light and man the girl playing cat grant is also like the cast of the daily planet is so perfect and the heroes are great yeah like I'm so excited so we got this whole giant bevy of posters uh we're gonna do a summer
Starting point is 00:15:51 movie preview in a minute but I thought this preview section opening up with posters kind of ties into our issue with seeing too much but I feel like this solves that a bit by getting us brand familiar with these characters without giving too much context of what we're going to see them as. It also makes it very clear that these aren't going to be like cameos. These are supporting roles. Yeah. And so many people from the beginning of this film have been like
Starting point is 00:16:12 it's too big of a cast. How are they going to do it? If you look at most movies, they have big casts. It's just you don't have brand recognition for all of them. Like when you watch any military movie, Sergeant blah, blah, blah, blah doesn't always get a poster. But since we know who Lombard is, he might have
Starting point is 00:16:30 seven minutes of screen time, but it's an impactful moment to see him, and so he gets a poster. It's an important character. So, if you're building out a universe, I don't think this 25 characters that got a poster is big. I think it's an ensemble with Superman leading it. And so these posters, to me, gave me more of that, like
Starting point is 00:16:46 they're not cameos, it's also not going to be overwhelming. They're different parts of his life. It's a full story. What are your thought? Yeah, no, I think that's a great point, and we know ensembles can be done, and James Gunn's very capable of doing it. He made us care about a tree, a raccoon. Yeah. Yeah, for one movie yeah for sure and i think like a good example too of just like having ensembles too like
Starting point is 00:17:05 you're talking about military and army like top gun i love the first top gun that movie is 80s defined right there right but i love what the second movie did besides all the incredible visual effects and just having a great story i love that we got to know everyone yeah like part of that was part of the unit and all that and i think that was an important core to why i cared about the film so much as like i care about i i know most of these characters i it's been a while since i watched it but like Bill Pullman's son, I'm forgetting his name. Lewis, thank you. Played Bob.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Bob, thank you. Like, Bob, I love Bob. Like, there's a couple side characters in the first film, but I'm like, I love when we can get ensembles and care about all these supporting characters. So I think that's smart that they're starting to set it up with these posters so that we can get familiar with them, as you pointed out, and just have an understanding like, yes, it's a Superman film, but there's going to be an ensemble of supporting characters. And, like, right away, the first one that stood out to me was Kat Grant. we've seen cat grant i believe a couple episodes of smallville i know in supergirl i don't know if the
Starting point is 00:18:05 general going public is very familiar at least on the in the theater going experience so i'm excited for that too because she's a very neurotic and interesting care oh yeah she's awesome i love cat grant that's going to but i love the look of her with the glasses and everything like interviewed here in dc studio showcase check out my uh... HBO max's youtube and HBO max for my show is that interviewer yeah oh i'm going to watch that right when we're done here i'm watching She's a delight. Like she's the coolest as a person and she gets Kat so much. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I can't wait to hear it. I love hearing that too because, again, that character is such a rebel. And I love like how neurotic and crazy she can be. So like that, that's so cool. I'm going to watch that interview right away. But yeah, no, in regards to like how bright the colors are and all that, I mean, it's James Gun, Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, vibrant and colorful.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And I think that speaks like, I personally, we might be a. posed to this, you let me know, but I didn't personally mind Manist Steel and the darkness. I thought it fit that take. Yeah, for that particular take, it fit. And Batman v. Superman and all that, and what Zach Snyder was trying to do, I thought it was fine. It would
Starting point is 00:19:11 be odd if it was as bright and told that story, just as it would be odd if James was telling his story and had it dark. Of course, and they were trying to eventually transition into what we all know is the bright and shiny Superman that inspires others. And I think that was the plan to get
Starting point is 00:19:27 there, at least it looked like it. So I'm cool with, you know, James, like, embracing that right now and giving us that in these posters. So again, does this do these posters, the ensemble part and seeing a little of characters? Like, I think that's great. I love that they're showing us who's going to be the supporting players and everything. That gets me excited, but I'm already super jazzed and pumped. I don't even need these posters. I'm- To this movie's tracking crazy. Yeah, I'm excited. I can't wait. Now, I bring up tracking because we do want to talk about box office, and I know that is tricky for folks with, like, why do we look at that sort of thing? And I said in the intro, it is an important part of the show business side.
Starting point is 00:20:03 But I thought a way to spice it up and to kind of combine things is I'm steering this ship. And I want to do a summer movie preview. I always want to do that. And they don't always do well. So I thought it would be fun instead of just doing like this movie is out here. Are you excited? Yes or no. We break down where we are so far in the summer.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And then at the end, we're going to talk about what we think might do best. And then I thought it would be kind of fun to share some summer. movie memories and then give it over to John for some fall experience, some autumnal saw action. So we're going to go chronological. We're going to start with the beginning of summer to me is that sweet spot last week of April going into May, which the Avengers films usually own or their big Marvel movies. And this year was no exception. The end of April going into May, May 2nd official release, but pretty much in April, May 1st.
Starting point is 00:20:46 We had Thunderbolts. Now, Thunderbolts was the kickoff to summer, but it didn't do what it needed to do. and I would say this is one of the biggest examples to me of the movie is better than it got received as, and I think it's going to have legs in the long run. Eternals I never thought would find the audience it deserved, but I understood that it wasn't for everyone. I think Thunderbolts is much more palatable and deserves its audience, but I think that one's going to get discovered a bit more than my precious Eternals.
Starting point is 00:21:19 But I know you looked into the box office on this. I think it was a great film. You haven't seen it yet. But I'd love to know your thoughts on the box office and reception and all the things that tie into that, starting with our summer kickoff. Just in general, obviously, whether I connect with a film or not, whether it was for me or not, I'm just saddened whenever I hear that a film's in the red. Sure. But at the same point, I'm not in the room. I'm not in the conversations.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I don't know what goes on behind the scenes. But a lot of times I get a little bit frustrated when these executives overinflate a lot of these budgets. granted, I know sometimes the directors, hey, I need this much, I need this much. And I want them to have their creative freedom. I don't ever want directors to feel like they don't have that. But I think a problem that arises is you've got to remember, especially given in the time we're in now. I mean, it's 2025. We've got social media.
Starting point is 00:22:06 We get streaming right away, which I think a big problem, obviously, was caused by COVID. We are now reliant on that. The theater going back, man, 90-day windows. Yeah, it did. I mean, even... Nothing said we need 90-day windows back. No, no, no, I agree. I'm just saying, like, COVID.
Starting point is 00:22:20 like really like brought down the movie going experience in terms of people are now comfortable with just, it's going to come back so quickly now onto streaming. Yeah. So now we don't, we don't need to go see it in theaters unless it's a specific film. Right. But I think in case you don't know how it works, as to my understanding, you got the budget of the film, then when it comes to marketing, you use half of that as for marketing. And then you got to remember the movie theaters, they get to keep half of that.
Starting point is 00:22:50 So when you have these overinflated budgets, you put yourself in a real pressure situation. Now, there's obviously there's films where we're like, we know we're going to do gangbusters. So we can take that risk. But then there's other films where I'm like, I'm just, I'm just very confused as to why we were doing that. John showed me this trailer that was it called the creator, John? Yeah, yeah, for the creator. Just to kind of illustrate how they made that movie versus how it looks. Now that movie and also I would use Deadpool, the first one as an example.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I could be wrong. and you correct me if I'm wrong I think that movie was a $60 million budget Watch that movie Does it feel like a $60 million? It feels like $150, $200 million. Even with inflation of today, it's like $85? It doesn't feel like it though
Starting point is 00:23:31 Because they got very, give to Miller credit and all the guys who worked on that film They were very creative They had a lot of technicians on that movie Really stretching their brains on that film And I think that's where we need to get back to And I'll use another example too And again, that trailer, John showed me for the creator.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I've not seen that movie. But when I watched that trailer, have you seen that film? Yeah. I watch that. It's visually so much more expensive. Yeah, that's what John said. And again, I haven't seen it. So no opinion for me.
Starting point is 00:23:59 But when I watched that trailer, I was like, he didn't tell me the budget. I just watched the trailer. He goes, how much do you think the budget? I was like, that's $250, $350 at least. He goes, $80 million. No, no way. Godzilla minus one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Let's talk about the movie. Yeah, but I'm like, I want to get to a point. Like, so these studios don't. don't have to feel the pressure because again we're at a time where there's so many different options of yeah and again if you don't have a list it's expensive to go to a theater the cost of living right now is expensive it's it's it's and this movie was expensive it wasn't like you know top marvel expensive but it was pretty crazy expensive yeah so and you said it what it's 180 million 180 million cost and it's currently sitting at I think let me pull up box
Starting point is 00:24:42 office mojo which is fairly accurate uh it made 183 domestic yeah uh 188 international. So if there was no split, which is impossible because the theaters, and when we say they take half, they need that to stay open. Right. You're paying your concessions, your ushards, your projections, your workers, you're keeping the lights on. You're like, it is expensive to run a theater.
Starting point is 00:25:02 So 188 and 183 adds to 371 worldwide. This movie needs to clear like 4.8. And this is being constructive. Like I still love the MCU, but the MCU is not, they don't have the same word of mouth like they used to in phases one through three. If they did, probably be a different. story. But again, also, you got to factor in the times we're living in, too. I just think it's smart. Besides an Avengers film, of course, you have to have a crazy budget probably for a film
Starting point is 00:25:25 like that with all the actors and all the visual effects you're going to need on that film. Understandable, I get. But I do want to bring up a thing that ties into Mission Impossible that I do think ties into Thunderbolts. With franchises, there is a different box office math because it elevates the rest of your franchise. So when we get to Mission Impossible, I want to talk about that. But first, I do want to give flowers to the next big movie that came out. So that was May 2nd, May 16th, two weeks later, a big summer boost we got was Final Destination Bloodlines. Final Destination Bloodlines, I tell you, I love this movie, and it's a delight, and it made the first ever $200 million final destination.
Starting point is 00:26:03 It's finally happened a fifth of a billion. Now, that's a movie that does a lot with a little. For sure. What was the budget on that? Just curious. I think it was like 60. That's what I'm talking. And again, let me look.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Yeah, yeah. But either way, like I, 50, according. to this. Wow. Yeah. Hey, come on. Great job. Great job. And I've actually heard no spoilers, of course, because John, myself and Aaron are currently reacting to the series. Go check them out if you haven't already. I've been enjoying that series a lot. Yeah. So that makes me, that gives me great joy to hear that a film on a, I know we say $50 million is a low budget, right? Can you imagine back in the day if we said $50 million? What a bargain. What a small budget. Yeah. It's a small Lur budget than the rest of, you know, top, top films that come out today. But I think, like, that's, like, that's what I want movies to do. Like, stretch out your creative legs and do that. When you can get the, like that, you're going to get more bang for your buck. Because like 60 and, and by the, the movie math, like, it needs to be like 1.21.30. So it's 70 million in the profit. And it's got good word of them out. So it's going to like. And then it gets to profit all of its home video. It gets to profit all of its. And that ties into this really cool article. Greg actually sent me. And I thought those was really interesting. Mission.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Impossible was the next weekend. So that was the 16th Mission Impossible and Lilo and Stitch came out the 23rd. We're almost up to the present, you love Lies. But on the 23rd, Lilo and Stitch was a giant success. We're talking crazy numbers. The second highest grossing movie of 2025 so far. Remember, Minecraft
Starting point is 00:27:28 broke a ton of record. So number two this year, it is made as of a week ago. You guys are watching this going into its newest bracket. As of a week ago, it already made $610 million. That's insane. So I don't want to give that as flowers, but that made a lot of people go like but what about mission impossible mission impossible not only
Starting point is 00:27:46 is the biggest opening ever for a mission impossible a 30 year plus franchise the biggest number i noticed was the second weekend bracket it only dropped 33% a 33% weekend to drop is crazy little like that's a very small number it is now at 354 million worldwide the biggest mission impossible to date now a lot of people go yeah but i heard it cost 300 to 400 million dollars this movie one paid for its entire crew over the pandemic that we filmed one and two back to back and there was pickups and stuff done between the two films the entire time LA was shut down
Starting point is 00:28:22 this movie was paying its crew that's the only movie I know of doing that so the budget for these two movies is astronomical because it was actually taking care of its people so I want to give that it's love but then I read this article Greg sent basically it was saying that when you've got a franchise every time you release a new movie
Starting point is 00:28:39 it buoys all the old movies enough that goes into accounting for the budget. So this is the eighth film. The first Mission Impossible movie every time they release another one makes an average of 10 million more a year. So if you calculate all of the movie math and then you look at streaming
Starting point is 00:28:56 and then you look at that boost and the $10 million from that one, then you add two, three, four, five. And then you've got all those franchises. You also get to re-contract out your film out. So franchises are a little different and I do think when people are talking about movie franchise movie math,
Starting point is 00:29:11 Thunderbolts should be given the grace because it will buoy these other ones. And I do think after some movies come out, people will revisit old Marvel films. And like, I know people rewatch these as marathons leading up to think. Yeah. So I do think it's a bummer. Thunderbolts didn't do well on its own. But I think if we look at the grand scale, that $100 million loss might be a little softer. Yeah, no, no, that actually makes total sense.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Because for people who don't have streaming, for instance, they might, oh, I've got to revisit this movie. Now I'm going to download Paramount Plus or I'm going to buy this movie. And Paramount Plus advertising, it helps them out because it helps their whole, yeah. No, no, no, that makes total sense. I just think where I'm coming from on this, too, granted with all that information, I just think it's going to put less pressure just in general. If you find a way to just slightly lower your budgets, it's just going to put, again, I don't disagree with your point.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It's just going to put you in a position where you don't like, we got to make $900 million. So we break even, just to bring even. We have to be a small country's revenue. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And again, going back to, like, how we felt in the day, if you hit 900 million back in the day, you were like, holy crap. That's the franchise, like, peak, not a standard.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Like, that was like, we've done it, folks, not we have to. Yeah. I also think there's something to be said about movies versatility, and this isn't to Tate D.C.'s horn at the cost of Marvel. I do think, however, Marvel needs to look at the current state of things, not the residual state of things. And I think D.C. gets too more because they're new. Like, D.C. is a new entity.
Starting point is 00:30:40 they get to make a little bit more experimental gambols at the start, which I love that they're doing. But if you look at DC Slate, they're trying out different budget things. There's no way Swamp Thing is going to cost as much as Superman. Do you know what I mean? So that to me is like you build out this universe and you have different variations of budget. And so Thunderbolts, I think, cost a lot for what it was. Fortunately for me, it's amazing. But we got to look at these things.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Now, on the other side, we're almost to the present day. I just really quick. I'm sorry. How much was Lilo and Stitch's budget? I'm just curious because that is doing. killer numbers right now. I think it's one of the biggest profits Disney's had in a decade. I'm so happy to hear that. Yeah, that's money.
Starting point is 00:31:18 We're looking at $100 million for Lilo. Wow, so $100 million and then $6.10. So $100 million and then obviously about $50 for marketing. So $150, then they have to give. So $300 and it's already, wow. It's already doubled. It's already doubled. That's
Starting point is 00:31:34 and it's going to keep doing more. He's going to move. Yeah, because you got all summer. That might hit a billion. I think Minecraft is right there on the edge, and I think that's going to be there too. But again, 100 million. That's a good, that's a nice number right there. Good job, team. That's a great, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And then, so that was the 23rd Lilo and Mission. Now we're on to the 30th. We had Karate Kid Legends. Now, you and I are both Karate Kid fans. I recently watched a certain Karate Kid with Sir John. If you guys haven't seen that on the channel, we reacted to the new Karate Kid, God. That's 15 years ago. New.
Starting point is 00:32:06 But we, I have not seen the new Karate Kid. and I am very curious how this was. I have not heard anything, and I thought that was interesting. Just the fact that like what, like buzz or lack of, like, oh, you mean word of mouth? It's weird. Yeah, I've only heard from one person
Starting point is 00:32:22 who's a diehard karate kid fan. They really enjoyed it. Good to hear. Yeah, so that's all I've heard one person. I'm gonna, I'm gonna take this a moment to look out. Please tell me more. Yeah, no, I mean, but I'm excited to still see it just because, do you know much about the film or not at all?
Starting point is 00:32:37 I know, two branches, one tree. I thought that was a great log line. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. No, I mean, there's a certain character who's in it from, obviously, from the show and the movie. So, like, from that factor, and obviously, I love Jackie Chan so much. So from that perspective, I'm extremely looking forward. Oh, I mean, a Jackie Chan movie. I'm always there.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Yeah, yeah, of course. And we reacted to a Jackie Chan movie that has not been put on the channel yet, which we were, like, I remember in that reviewer, like, this is why we love cinema. I'm not going to explain which film that was, but that was an incredible experience. And a curveball day. Yes, it was. Oh, my God. I'm not even going to get into that. But yeah, I'm still, again, I'm, I'm, I don't know, I don't know what the box office numbers are. So, uh, cost 45 million. That's a good cost for very. And that's a reasonable cost for a Jackie Chan movie. And it, it made 25 domestic 26 international. It is sitting at worldwide 51 right now. That, that, that, that's saddens me. I think the biggest, well, it's got competition. Yeah, that I think that's the problem. It's got competition. It's when you release it. And also on top of that, it's coming off the heels of one of my favorite shows ever, Cobra Kai.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Sure. So it's like, how do you follow that? Right. And it'll break even. Probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, 47 means it only has to do another 40 to break,
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Starting point is 00:35:11 lineup. Again, that's code rejects, $50 instantly after your first $5 lineup. Prize fix run your game. Guys, it's Friday the 6th. There's two crazy movies coming out. Ballerina's so good. So excited. It is so good. So excited.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I am one of the, and I found out today, you are with me. I personally like John Wick won the most. A lot of people like as the franchise went, I'm personally a John Wick 1, Johnwick 2, ballerina, Johnwick 4, Johnwick 3 guy. I might even put ballerina, Johnwick 1, ballerina, Johnwick 2, it's that good. And you've only seen it once so far, right? I was infatuated.
Starting point is 00:35:49 My concern and a big reason I want to do some review is to tell you how good it is. Because I really want, the word of mouth on it is not what it needs to be. It is shockingly good at building mythology. The action's insane, I'm under Armis is a movie star. And this is her like flex. It's so good. but I love the weekend we get because this is counter-programming in the right way, juxtaposing ballerina action spectacle glory.
Starting point is 00:36:13 We've got the Phoenician scheme, the new Wes Anderson film, and the Life of Chuck, which is the new Mike Flanagan adaptation of a Stephen King novel. So we've got adult fare in one direction of seriousness with joy, one in whimsy and Phoenician, and then we've got a big spectacle. To me, this is the first weekend that isn't just like trying to Barbenheimer. To me, Mission Lilo felt like it was like, we've got two giants.
Starting point is 00:36:37 This weekend feels like an old summer movie weekend where it's like, we got three movies I love to see and they're all different tonalities. Yeah, good counter programming, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, I remember back in the day when you used to. You could actually look, you read the paper. I actually know, I remember growing up, seriously. I can't like pick out two particular movies, but there would be totally different genres
Starting point is 00:36:56 where I would literally have nothing to do all day. And I'd be like, okay, I'm going to go there, I'm going to go here, enjoy, enjoy my cake and eat it. And I feel like this summer is finally back to the bygone era of movie summer. But it makes me so, yeah, I agree with you. It makes me so happy to hear that ballerina is really good because I love the John Wick franchise. I could watch those movies all day. And I, it's Len Weisman, right?
Starting point is 00:37:18 And crushed it, dude. I'm one of the few. It seems like I think that likes live for your diehard. So I think, I haven't seen the underworld films. I know I was going to say, I love Underworld. Underworld. I have not seen those. In Root House.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah. Oh, he did the new... The new road is? I didn't, I understand that. Yeah, yeah, but anyways, I love the unrated version of live free and diehard. I think that's a fun action film. I would actually venture to make a not so popular comment and say it's my second favorite day. Whoa, hot take from Andrew today.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Sorry. All right. Now we're getting into that. But again, just really quick. I'm sorry. I just want to say, like, I'm really looking forward. I'm so glad to hear that it's getting some positive word of mouth. And I love Anaday Armagh.
Starting point is 00:37:58 She's incredible. I did see Roxy, too. I want to shout her out. She did say she thinks. she'd make a great catwoman. Love. I'm going to give you an even bolder statement. I think ballerine is my number two of the year.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Wow. I was just looking at my list. Sinners one? Oh, what's number one? I love Novakating, dude. I still haven't seen it. I still haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I'm somewhat biased, but like it is joy in carnet, and it feels like a 90s or early 2000s action. I want to see. I remember that was one of the trailers that we reacted to. I was like, I want to see this so bad. I think one.
Starting point is 00:38:32 And then Ballerian and then sinners. If Greg doesn't have us react to it, I'm just going to watch it. Yeah, just live. That's what I've been waiting for. So, okay, that was this week. That's tomorrow or today. That's right now at your local cinema. Next week is where I think we entered the biggest movies of the year conversation.
Starting point is 00:38:48 How to Trainers Dragon Live Action. I think this has a contender to hit the Lilo and Stitch rhythm. I think this is maybe the thing that'll slow Lilo and Stitch down. It will have had a three-week runway. So I feel like it's going to do what's due. How to Train Dragon? I've also seen, I'm not allowed to talk about it yet. But I really, really think if I were to be able to, I'd be positive.
Starting point is 00:39:11 But how to train your dragon live action, I feel like we have buzz about it. I feel like it's beloved trilogy. I feel like it's got a contender of a billion maybe. What are your thoughts? That's such a popular franchise. Those three films are so innovative. They are so much fun. And they're the world building in that, the animation's incredible.
Starting point is 00:39:28 And I think the biggest thing we've talked about before when it comes to last. of us when you adapt franchises, the biggest thing is you got to hit the major beats while still making it your own. So I'm excited to see that you're going to get, I mean, it's a popular IP. You're going to get people on first time viewings no matter what, right? Yeah. If it's a very good film, that's when the repeat viewings come. I think that's the biggest thing. If the movie is good, you're going to get people coming back. And bring their family. Yeah. And bringing their selling multiple tickets if they all love it. And we're in summer season. Like that's, that's the thing. right so when we're in summer season like that's a good babysitter too like to keep your kids like
Starting point is 00:40:04 and actually a good opiate of the masses like it's not just like dumb yeah it's good yeah no and i think also too my my favorite types of animation or like children's type of films even though i don't really consider how to train your dragon children's films my favorite types of films are ones that are good for adults and children i was going to say it's genuinely in all ages yeah exactly exactly those are my favorite types of films i love films where both can enjoy it pick up something each so at the end this. When we look back, I do think how to train your dragon is going to clear the top five of likely that. I totally agree with that. Especially if it's a great film, it's going to make so much money. Not just a shop for charity. Who said that? The 20th, the following week, we've got a John
Starting point is 00:40:46 movie that I'm trying to bring him to a special presentation of a piece of on the 20th, 28 years later. I'm very excited for Alex Garland coming back and Danny Boyle, like Alex Garland teaming up with Danny Boyle to return after all these years. It also has one of the best trailers I've ever seen. Speaking of marketing, I think the 28 years later's first trailer is art by itself. Like, and it gave nothing away, but it's pure. That reminded me of like when you're a 15 to 20 year old and you understand movie literacy, but you're also like not working our job.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Like that's the last time I think I was able to just watch trailers and not think about the scrutiny. That era, this feels like that, that trailer. That's the secret to trailers for me is when I don't know the plot or anything about. the film and I'm asking more questions than knowing things. I want fake stuff in my trailers. I want them to deceive me. Yeah. Put Hulk and everything. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's give it gives you something visceral to think about. Use it deleted scene. Yeah. And then you're like yeah, no, for sure. Give me a scene from F1 with Brad Pitt that's not in the movie. Yeah. No. I don't want to see the movie. I want to see the
Starting point is 00:41:47 trailer. Yeah, exactly. Because you're already pumped to see something. But yeah, no, that that trailer was intense. It was suspenseful. And I, it's been a while since Aaron and I reacted to the first film. I love that movie. And I mean, Last of Us is one of my favorite franchises ever when it comes to the TV show when it comes to the video games. And so much inspiration comes from that because that came out of clearly about 11 years before. Yeah. And I mean, there's so much stuff in there that that builds upon in that world. It's such a cool universe. And I still haven't seen the other films in it. There'd be some reactions in the future for that maybe. But yeah, no, that that's so cool that Danny Boyle is because he directed the person. He's back. And then Alex Scarle.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I still got to see more Alex Garland films. I know. I really. What was the, what was the one that he did with the, what's the film called? I'm thinking with Domal Gleason. Oh, oh. Ex Machina. I've never, I've never seen it. Top 30 of all time. Never seen it. I've been telling Greg, I got to get on that reaction. Actually, that's a great reaction, Greg. Yes. If you're watching this edit. Greg, it's great. Do it now. So the 20th, we got 28 years later. As said, we have Elio, which is a new Pixar film, which I don't not feel like people are talking about. and then a bit of counter-programming for the folks that like to, like, sit and have a little somber adult drama time. This is on my radar, and I haven't heard anybody else talk about it. There's a movie called Everything's Going to Be Great. That in itself is one of those like mumble core adult drama comedies. Listen to this cast. Alison Janie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Brian Cranston. Wow. Simon Rex. Chris Cooper. That's all I need. That's all I got. I was going to say that's... Allison Janie and Brian Crans are enough for me.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I'm just good with that cast. I don't even need to know. anything about the film. I haven't even watched the trailer. I just know I'm going to see it. So that's the 20th. Again, big summer weekend. We've got the big tent pole. 28 years later is not quite a tent pole, but it is a smaller budget. It doesn't have to make a ton of it back because it's going to cost less. It got greenlit as a trilogy. Have I talked about this? 28 years later is greenlit and written as a trilogy. The first one is Danny Boyle. The second one is Nia da Costa, who I adore. It's already been filmed. Depending on the success of one and two, three is greenlit. green lit. But we've got to show up to one and two. I've never seen a studio be like, you get pieces. I love that they're so competent in what they're doing, that they're already green lit. But that makes, that gives me more confidence as a movie goer. The third gets more of a budget if they do well. Yeah, no, for sure. And I don't know if this is a spoiler. Obviously, we know
Starting point is 00:44:16 Killing Murphy was in the first one. We saw like little snippets that this could be him. It's not going to be him. But I'm really hoping that he comes back in one of the sequels because I love his character so That, I believe, has been confirmed. Oh, it has? One thing that struck me is that, yeah, they've said, Killian's not that zombie, but he's going to be in part two and three. And part of me wonders if they're using that as, to get to a three. To get to a three.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Yeah. Because two's already shot half of it, but three definitely feels a little more tedious. It's like, we got Killian. He's in a scene in two, and then three is about him. So they're like, do you want him? Do you want Oppenheimer? That's damn good marketing then. It is.
Starting point is 00:44:53 That's what I would do. Because, like, I'm, I don't even know. Dangle the biggest movie of the last few years, success-wise. So, yeah, the 20th, 20 years later, LEO, everything's going to be great. 24th, Ironheart comes out. That's TV, but I want to get, make sure people watch it. And then the 27th is a crazy weekend. June 27th.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Megan 2.0, low budget, big success opportunity. We watched the first one. Loved it. And your boy is back with the other interview at the vampire star. Oh. We got F1. Damn. I wouldn't, I mean, granted, I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I'm assuming I'm reacting to both of them. I don't know. But if that's a double feature day for me. That's a double feature day for me because I love the trailer to Megan 2.0. But like again, those are the days I talked about growing up in the theater. Those are the double feature days. I have to see both in theaters. I think F1's going to surprise people.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I think I would off of the buzz a month ago, not have put it in the conversation. I think off the first screening and the word I've heard this week. I've heard incredible positive word of mouth as well. I mean, Joseph Kaczyns. Yeah, Top Gun Maverick is one of my favorite movies in the last 10, 15 years. I have this because of Top Gun Maverick. I'm not even joke. It's not even a joke. Like I saw Rooster on screen. I was like, man can look cool with a mustache. All right, let me give it a shot. I'm not saying I do, but I'm saying, but yeah, I'm going to give it a shot. But yeah, and I actually liked the second Tron film legacy personally john and i reacted to it the the soundtrack and that is bonkers incredible i
Starting point is 00:46:26 neutron is nine inch nails dude yeah the soundtrack is nine inch nails yeah i'm losing my mind yeah i'm such a nineish nails yeah oh yeah i'm with you but i'm again i'm if i'm not reacting to that film i'm seeing i probably am but if i'm not i probably am too because we watch yeah yeah for sure but if i'm not i'm seeing i'm seeing that in theaters yeah like that is a total like i mean like hearing the roar of that of the race cars and like jose i mean i want to say the 10 minutes at Santa MacCon, it's insane. Yeah, but also, too, not only that, I want to see the follow-up to what the guy who did Top Gun Maverick.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Just in general, anything he does, I'm there. And it's Brad Pitt? Yeah, no, for sure. Is he, is he going to, like, this is just a general question? Is he supposed to work with Tom Cruise again on something? Oh, no. Yeah, because they're such a, yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:07 they're so good together. I know, I know they've talked about it and it's been green lit from my last reading of Top Gun 3. Oh, I think so. Is Joseph supposed to? He'd have to. Yeah. You do not risk that.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I know McCory is, I mean, It feels like McCorn is writing everything. Tom Cruise is in, no. Or at least... I feel like Tom Cruise gets a little bit... They have a shorthand. That allows Tom Cruise to really cruise. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:30 All right. So now we have the biggest month of the year. I would say one is the biggest months in movie history. I'm not being hyperbolic when I say this could be a $2.5 billion month. July 2nd, Jurassic World Rebirth. Artie. I mean, that franchise, not Park, but World. They've all hit a billion.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Quality, notwithstanding. and there's some highs and lows. They all hit a billion dollars. So Jurassic opens the month. Nine days later, and I love this perfect ratio. Two weeks is following this, but a nine-day window,
Starting point is 00:48:02 so Jurassic has time to make a ton of money and things to subside a little bit. Superman. We get Superman July 11th. This is being eyed as the biggest DC opening ever. The tracking numbers I saw this week were 154 to $175 million opening. It also broke tons of trailer records. Like, that's doing okay.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Yeah, no, that's great. That's going to be the thing for Jurassic Park. I mean, again, it's Jurassic Park. People are going to go in the theater, but it's going to have to get some good word of mouth too in order to get some repeat viewings because once Superman hits theaters, it's going to immediately dip right away. So it's got nine days, which I like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:35 No, no, no, for sure. So Jurassic, nine days Superman. And then the next week, this is cool because it's a little bit of counter programming. Before we get to the other movie we're going to talk about, Smurfs is the 18th, which is a huge family thing, which I feel like nobody's talking about. That's going to be an audience that we don't have access. We're just like, oh, it's making money. It'll be like when Garfield money.
Starting point is 00:48:53 I'm like, sure. That same weekend with Smurfs, people aren't talking about, I know what you did last summer gets its remake, the 18th. Oh my God. Still July. And there's a little movie called Eddington, which has an insane cast.
Starting point is 00:49:05 It's kind of like the last one I was just describing. So Eddington, Smurfs, and the insanity of, and I know what you did last summer, counter programming Superman, I think is so perfect a week later. Because then its real competition comes after that. Oh, Eddington is a pitcher.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Pascal movie. Pedro Pascal's in a movie? I don't see him that much. Really? He's got to get to work. I hope he does. I mean, he needs it. Not only is he in a movie. It's an Ari Aster. An Ari. Yeah, that's why I wrote it down. Thank you for finding. Yeah, Ari Aster, Wachene Phoenix. Oh my God. Emma Stone. And Pedro Pesel. Again, I don't even
Starting point is 00:49:38 need to know anything. Quietly just coming out on the 18th. So right now, July, Jurassic World, Superman, Smurfs. I know what you did last summer. Eddington. And then the 25th. Fantastic 4. So a two-week window between Superman and Fantastic 4 means you can go super fantastic. Yeah. And you've got Jurassic for repeat viewing and you've got Smurfs to the kids. And you've got to know what it did last summer for the horror fans.
Starting point is 00:50:00 And you got Happy Gilmore. I talked about the movie theater being a good babysitter. This is going to be a good month for babysitting in the movie theaters. I've never heard of July like that. Yeah, that's, that's a lot. That is actually insane. Before we get into Fantastic 4 and Superman, that's an interesting month to put. I know what you did last summer.
Starting point is 00:50:15 I mean, because you're nothing horror in there. Yeah. Because Megan was June. That's true. I guess for counter programming that is actually it's not interesting. Yeah, no, it's not a bad idea. I was thinking that too. It's the only R-rated thing except Eddington. Those are different audiences.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I guess too, yeah, that is a that's a smart way to do it, I guess, if there's nothing else that's coming out that's horror-wise. So, because I was thinking that I'm like... Harder to making a comeback. Yeah, no, for sure. It is, it is. No, but I was thinking too, like, because usually I associate horror films with like more Halloweenish time
Starting point is 00:50:43 or like, or early spring. But I think they're trusting audiences more. Yeah, but also, too. Dude, this is a good time to go to the theaters in the summer, like, the blockbuster season. So, and there's nothing else coming out. I didn't know, I didn't realize that until you said that. But I'm like, actually, it's not, it's not the worst idea. I think that's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:01 So Jurassic 9 days, Superman, two weeks, fantastic. I think those three alone are going to clear two billion combined, if not more. Yeah. Could almost hit three. And then the support from Smurfs, and I know you did the summer. Yeah. So, and then the, you know, some people go see Eddington. I know me and me and John are excited about Eddington.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I wrote it down months ago and then forgot what it was. And I was just here in my calendar. but I think all of that and then before we get and then August just to that's not really the summer movie season we get weapons which I think is going to be huge caught stealing I think is going to be huge that is the new
Starting point is 00:51:30 joint from Aronofsky that looks like a guy Ritchie film which I'm excited about Matt Smith's in it and so is Elvis Austin Butler Austin Butler and Matt Smith together gold and then show wise King of the Hill August 4th but I want to talk yes I'm so excited for propane and propane
Starting point is 00:51:47 and propane accessories Oh, but I was like Johnny Bravo. But on the 25th, and then we got to wrap out because I've done this for hours. I'm so sorry, Greg, it's a long edit. But on the 25th, you had something you wanted to talk about. On the 25th. A certain film you actually watched a trailer for. Which?
Starting point is 00:52:03 A summer movie spectacle. Oh, happy Gilmore, too. I'm like, wait, where are we going right now? Sorry, sorry. Yeah, I'm really looking forward. I mean, grand quality-wise, I don't know what we're getting, but I don't care how ridiculous or the buffoonery that happens in this movie. I've been waiting for this film.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Do you sanction this buffoon? I sanction as Jim Carrey did with or as as Jim Carrey. As Tommy Lee Jones said to Jim Carrey. Yeah, he didn't to Jim Carrey. Sorry, I was trying to remember. Yeah, because Jim Carrey said that in the Norm MacDonald show, right? I was trying to out Andrew Andrew. I was trying to make a deep cut reference to the 90s.
Starting point is 00:52:34 That's why you're the geek checked. The other geek checked rather. But yeah, no, I'm really looking forward to this film. Again, I don't care how ridiculous this movie is. I remember seeing, I saw this at the Universal Theater in 96. Happy Gomar. And I've been obsessed with it. with Adam Sandler ever since.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And I actually met him in person such a sweet human being very humble, very cool guy, says hi to everyone. Really, really cool good, really cool gentlemen. It stars someone that I watch everything of.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Oh yeah? And it's not just Adam Sam. Eminem's in this man. Is he really? I didn't even know that. I didn't know. You are obsessed. I do it.
Starting point is 00:53:06 I'm so excited. If you have not seen this man, karaoke, he's the best. Seriously, I'm not saying, I'm not saying this because we're co-workers and we're friends, you were freaking good
Starting point is 00:53:19 at that. I'm like, how does he have the vocal capacity to do this? It's all this talking I do professionally. Then that's the practice for that. That's what it's all. This is just a practice doing rap God. But seriously, though, I'm so excited. Like, when I watched the trailer, I was like, I don't want to watch this because I don't want to be revealed.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I'm like, it's happy and more. I don't care. There were so many things in you. I'm the Easter egg reference man, right? And I'm like, oh, reminding me of this, remind me that. I can't wait. I told Greg, I really want to react to that one, but it made me feel so, it made me feel so nostalgic watching the trailer. And we got a lot of good stuff, man.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Netflix is bringing the heat, but happy Gilmore. Again, I'm fascinated by everything in regards to July. I'm really curious, though, but I know what you did last summer because I think it's going to... Like a dark horse. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But I think it's going to have studios think like, hey, in regards to counter... Yeah, in regards to counter programming, like, if there's nothing else playing in regards to horror, like, we can't, like, it can be a safe bet.
Starting point is 00:54:14 There's a Marvel movie coming out. Let's put out this to go, like, yeah, I think that's my... I'm curious how it does as well. So in brief, and then we've got to wrap out of here and get to our patron questions. We've got May done June 6th today. Ballerina, Phoenician Scheme,
Starting point is 00:54:27 the life of Chuck. Next week, how to train your dragon. The following week, 28 years later, L.O. and everything's going to be great. The following week, F1 and Megan 2, following the week is into July, Jurassic World Rebirth on TV,
Starting point is 00:54:37 the Old Guard 2, and heads of state on Amazon. On the 11th, we've got Superman breaking all sorts of trailer records, and I think box office. A week later on the 18th, We have Smurfs. I know what you did last summer and Eddington. And a week after that, Fantastic Four and Happy Gilmore.
Starting point is 00:54:52 We talked about it. It's going to be really hard to. I'm probably going to be doing, oh, not probably. I'm doing the reaction for Superman. And I would imagine for Fantastic Four. And for Happy Gilmore. Well, yeah. Happy Gilmore.
Starting point is 00:55:04 I imagine it's going to be easy to avoid spoilers. But Superman. You didn't know what Amazon. Yeah. That too. Yeah. Thanks, Koi. But that's going to be tough to avoid spoilers for Superman and Fantastic for.
Starting point is 00:55:15 But that's not the issue. I'm going to have, it's waiting and waiting. But then obviously, right after I see those reactions, I'm hustling down to the theaters. And it'll still be an IMAX. Yeah. Well, yeah, for sure. But my only thing that I'm worried about is I'm not going to get to see it with a crowd.
Starting point is 00:55:29 But I'm hoping that I will. Might have enough legs to get that second wave. I hope you're right. I hope you're right because that's honestly, it's one of my favorite things to do in a theater is when I get to experience it with a crowd. I love the energy and the vibrancy that I feel when I'm with people. And when they feel, and you know what's interesting too? When I see something multiple times and I get
Starting point is 00:55:46 different reactions from grads. I love going like, oh, they thought this was way funny. They thought that was funny. Yeah. Okay. Different sense of humor. I also like going to different neighborhoods. I like to like go to the different pockets of vibe. Like I always go deep valley for fast movies. Oh yeah? Yeah. Like I like the car culture
Starting point is 00:56:02 pockets. So I either go to Boyle Heights or I go like Deep Chatsworth. Like I find. But yeah. Well, that is going to do it for my summer movie preview. Always wanted to do this. Bringing you the magazine experience, but IRL, well, digitally, but through video. But yeah, let's get to some Patreon questions. Saw.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Saw. Coy, twist ending. I even went to August. Saw Coy. Twist ending, Coy. John. John, tell us about Blumhast. Hey, John. First, sorry, just real quick at the end here, because it is, it matters to me. No, no, it matters to me. I put it there. I wrote John in the parentheses. He did. Segway. Ungracious segue, just real quick. You did mention King of the Hill, and I just wanted to just say RIP, Jonathan Joss. Dude, that is so awful. His neighbor, right? Yeah, I don't know how to bring this up, but yes.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Yeah, just truly awful. And that cast has suffered losses recently, but that was by far the most sort of jarring and heartbreaking. So RIP, Jonathan Joss. And Saw. Saw is going, it's undergoing a bit of a, should I hop onto the camera?
Starting point is 00:57:04 Come on, John. Disembodied. John. Which, because the camera's just watching us watch you. John's flying in. Cameo from John. He is here. It's not an AI voice of John.
Starting point is 00:57:16 somehow manning all the buttons. We're letting the hair down. All right. Look at this flow. I look like a mad, crazy person. You're dressed like Mike Myers talking about jigsaw. All right. So, Saw is undergoing a bit of a management change.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Yes. Which is interesting to me. And I think it's going to actually probably affect the franchise. I'm curious because the thing about saw is it's been shepherded by two companies up till now. Twisted Pictures, which has the, you know, barbed wire logo that you always see. before every Saw movie and not many other movies. And then you see Lionsgate. And at the moment, what is happening is Blumhouse is essentially taking over the twisted
Starting point is 00:57:54 pictures half of the rights. Interesting. Yeah, so Lionsgate. And it's not been fully confirmed as to what happened with Saw 11 and the producers even came out after. That was crazy. Like what, two weeks out? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:07 And it was supposed to come out this year. It's supposed to come out this September, I believe it was. They had a date. And the word was they couldn't decide on what the direction should be for Saw 11. and they had reached some kind of creative standstill. The producers then came out and said, you know, like, ah, the game's not over, you know, you don't know what you're talking about. And now a few weeks later, we have this info.
Starting point is 00:58:26 It seems as though Lionsgate is going to maintain half the rights. And then Blumhouse by way of James Wan is going to maintain the other half. So I have to imagine that the creative day-to-day of Saw and the creative shepherding of Saw will probably happen more towards the Blumhouse side than the Lionsgate side. But I feel like, again, this conflict, whatever it might have been with twisted pictures with, I believe it's Mark Berg and Orrin Coolas, whatever that is, you know, certainly it seems like Lionsgate may have won or at least may have presented a scenario in which a compromise couldn't be made and those guys walked away. For my understanding, those are the two producers who, along with a couple other key figures like certain writers and stuff like that have, like the thing about Saw to me is like it has been shepherded by a few people over time. Like, it's been remarkably tight-knit for a 10 installment franchise. And it coming back to James Wan for creative direction is certainly inspiring, obviously,
Starting point is 00:59:26 because he and Lee Wannell kicked the whole thing off. Right. And they're both so possessive in a good way. They're both so protective over it. Yeah. And the first three movies at bare minimum had their guidance in terms of where the story went. They laid down those three movies worth of foundation really succinctly before you had guys like Dunstan and Melton and Pete Goldfinger and the guy, oh, I'm so sorry if you ever see this
Starting point is 00:59:49 for forgetting the writer names. But yeah, so this will be a kind of new split between them for creative. And it remains to see what'll happen out of that because saw movies have always been low budget and certainly that's what Blumhouse does. And for Blumhouse, I mean, they have a well-worn working relationship with James Wan. So part of me, it's weird. As much as Blumhouse is a reputable, you know, name in horror and low-budget horror, especially their business model is well-renowned. They have reached a cruising altitude where there's a good and a bad association with like, oh, it's a Blumhouse flick. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And so I feel like this is an interesting opportunity for them because they- To rebrand kind of? To rebrand, kind of. And they seem like a studio well-poised to take the reins in a way that says this will maybe be a bit creative. I think it benefits both parties. I think it gives Blumhouse a more credible. You're not as much of a saw guy.
Starting point is 01:00:40 outside. So I think it gives Blumhouse a little more street cred by having such a major franchise. They have others, but Saw is huge. Join me, Andrew. And also give Saw... We don't want to look at your waist. Cuddle with me. It also gives Saw some distribution clout. I think it does both a service because they need, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:56 Blumhouse is ever growing and you need something like this as a guarantee. So I think it's a really good move. And whoever is responsible for putting Tobin Bell in the T-shirt and pretending he was 30 is probably not working on it. How do you do fellow kids is hopefully not in the newest iteration.
Starting point is 01:01:13 That's from one of the better saws. Well, if memory serves, which now I am on the hot seat, I believe that is a saw. No, no, no,
Starting point is 01:01:21 no, I'm getting my saw lore mixed up now. There's only 10 of them, John. Why don't you know? Seven moment? I'm like, shit,
Starting point is 01:01:29 is it a five, six or seven? I love that you can tell me anything, but not the comments. But not the comments. This is going to be the most embarrassing moment of my life when I go back to the computer and sit down and I go,
Starting point is 01:01:38 what saw five? Yeah, I was so sure. Is it when he meets the guy from Boondock Saints and saw 7 at his book signing? I think it's that. You know everything but the detail of the movie. You're like, I can describe the whole experience. But how do you do fellow kids?
Starting point is 01:01:50 As long as Tobin Bell, circa age 25, but not looking different, then I'm good with it. So, yeah, I don't know what to make of this in terms of whether or not they do Tobin Bell again, because it certainly seems like you want to get as much Tobin Bell in as you can before he is no longer with us. He's an older guy. He's a spry guy, but he's an older guy. Sure. But yeah, as far as like Saw News goes, this was both surprising. shocking, but also like, again, because twisted pictures has been synonymous with Saw this
Starting point is 01:02:15 whole time. But if they had to change hands to somebody, the creative partnering of both Blumhouse and their business acumen plus James Wan and his savvy for universe and being one of the creative bedrocks of Saw. It's inspiring. And Lee Winnell is working with Blumhouse. Of course. So like it's both of them. It feels like it's coming home. Like Saw arguably is like the Blumhouseest kind of movie that wasn't actually a Blumhouse movie. It was just. before Blumhouse. Yeah, yeah. And I think maybe even
Starting point is 01:02:43 Orrin Peli had been involved at some point. I'm not sure if that's true or not. But yeah, it's like, you know, the house that paranormal activity built is now
Starting point is 01:02:49 getting the opposite thing into its, you know, gauntlet. I think it's good. Which is Saw. And I'm optimistic to see how that works out. And it mays will probably get some parks.
Starting point is 01:02:57 I immediately was like Universal Maze. I was going to say, bring them back. That was my first year at Universal as a scare actor. It's time. It's a Saw Game On Mays. As Angus McFadgin,
Starting point is 01:03:08 Jeff from Saw 3 in the freezer. and that frozen naked lady prop shows up in a lot of haunts around town so anyhow that's that's my time thank you guys John's cameo swapping it and Andrew you know you lay down your saw thoughts
Starting point is 01:03:22 we're gonna get to Patreon after Andrew's saw thoughts well just really quick if we get parks out of it that means John and I have somewhere to go right John? Yeah this October or next October whenever it is comes home I don't know anything about the saw films I've never seen them I love the soundtrack to the second one oh yeah no I've seen the
Starting point is 01:03:40 first two, the soundtrack, she's amazing. I love all the music you love, so that means I got to listen to it. Saw 2 soundtrack on the drive home. I will listen to it, I promise you. But when, after the interview that I listen with Kat Grant. It's Kat and Beck Bennett as a Lombard and Jimmy Olson Scholarzano, one episode. It's great. I will listen to
Starting point is 01:03:56 it, I promise. Thank you. So in regards to Saw, sounds good. I love the paranormal activity. I love the paranormal activity films. I'm going to shift this in a different direction. I'm a die hard nightmare and Elm Street fan. I don't want to go out the way we did in 2010.
Starting point is 01:04:11 I love Jack Eural Haley. To death. He's a great actor. I don't want to, and I know Platinum Dunes and Michael Bay did that film, but I don't want to go out that way. I know it's a pipe dream.
Starting point is 01:04:20 I know there's no way Robert England is probably ever going to come back. One can dream. I'm hoping someday Blumhouse gets the rights and get... Freddy's new, new nightmare. Exactly. And I'm hoping we can do something to get Robert England back.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Robert England jigsaw, man. I would not be bad. Do Robert England jigsaw or do Werner Herzog jigsaw? I'd be down for anything. Rubberty. Orner Hertz Saw, man. But seriously, I would be so down if Blumhouse got Nightmare and Elm Street as well. That'd be awesome. Because, again, I love
Starting point is 01:04:50 the paranormal. That was such a fun, that whole series. And Megan, Blumhouse. Oh, yeah. That is going to do it for those journeys of news. Let's talk to the patrons and let's guide us home. All right, we are now at the point of the show where we break down some Patreon questions. You wonderful radical, well, radicals when we meet you in person. You wonderful Royal Reject.
Starting point is 01:05:10 I love this part of the show where you guys send in some questions. So please anyone that is a super sexy reject, please send some in. John, what do we got? Hey, we got a nice reflective question to kick us off from Michelle R. R for resplendent for radical, dare I say, royal even. Pod question. What was the moviegoing experience you had as a kid that has been the most impactful on your current life and career? Dig deep, boys.
Starting point is 01:05:38 So we did a little summer movie preview. So I say we answer this twice. Once general. And then once, if there's anything summer blockbuster specifics. I like this theme of episode. So general first. Go ahead. How much time do we got?
Starting point is 01:05:52 87 minutes. Not receiving under like five. I'm going to start with the first summer blockbuster I ever saw. And I was only, I was a month away from being four. That was Batman returns. Now granted, granted, I don't remember every single thing when I saw the film.
Starting point is 01:06:05 It was only four years old, right? But that's when I knew I had a love and affinity. for films just that I have that visceral memory just of seeing penguin biting someone's nose seeing Batman kicking a bunch of clowns behinds and all that and I was at such a very young age and from that moment on I've been obsessed with films and that's when I knew I wanted it to be a part of my my life it was a part of my soul and also too I was probably at that point not that you're a critical thinker at the age of four I'm like what am I doing here this is a freaking scary movie but but yeah that's that that was the first movie-going experience.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I think the first film I ever saw, though, was a few months prior to that, I think was hook. But that was the first movie-going experience. I'm like, I love movies, and I want this to be a part of me. And I would say Batman returns in terms of general movie-going experience where I'm like, again, up to this point, I'd been obsessed with movies, but where it's just the game changed for me, it's probably the Matrix. I know that's March, so I don't know if you're going to call that summer blockbuster.
Starting point is 01:07:06 No, no, you already did your summer. You're free. Yeah, yeah, okay, cool. In regards to The Matrix, now there's a two-part story in this. We were getting, so my father and I were going, by the way, this is the power of cinema and going to theaters. I can literally tell you every single time I've gone to a movie theater, which theater I've gone to. I remember, like even one of your favorite movies, SWAT, I was in New Jersey when I saw that. Whatever theater or whatever film that I've gone to, I literally remember which theater I've gone to, but that's the power of cinema.
Starting point is 01:07:37 it sticks with me in my head. So when I went to see The Matrix at the Man Theater in Tarzana, which is no longer around, unfortunately, it's been replaced by a gym. At least it's for a good cause, I guess. But when it came to the Matrix, I thought my dad was pulling a prank on me. So this is a really cool story.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Probably not going to believe me. I promise you, it's true. We were pulling into the parking lot as we usually did when we went to the movie theater. And my dad's like, he's the one driving, of course. This is only 1999. I didn't have my license yet because I was, would have been like freaking hauling ass if uh what he said was true which it was he goes we got to
Starting point is 01:08:13 park right now i just saw chuck norris walk into the movie theater i go yeah right so we park and we my dad's walking faster than normal i'm like you might be telling the truth you might have just saw chuck norris and then we walk in i'm like holy crap chuck norris is right in front my heart was literally racing dude's freaking walker texas ranger and a bunch of other stuff that i have not seen him in but obviously it's Chuck Norris. He's pretty damn famous. So we started talking to him. Granted, I don't personally like to bother celebrities.
Starting point is 01:08:45 We actually knew someone that he had worked with in the past, Bo Bridges. He's a family friend. My older brother was on one of his son's soccer teams, and we were family friends who we were close with Bo. And I think they were in, it's like a karate kid rip-off movie called Sidekicks. So we started talking with Chuck. He could not be more graceful, more sincere. there with his son and another friend so he easily could have swiped us aside and been like hey nice
Starting point is 01:09:11 to make you i'm gonna go see the movie we talked to him about 15 20 minutes he was so sweet so sincere so kind i'm like just to see someone be so humble and he gave me a high five he was talking to me and like not you know not being dismissive towards me or my father it was a very cool 20-minute conversation i'm not going to lie to you while i was watching this incredible movie having my mind blown it in The Matrix. I kind of turned behind me about 30 different times. Chuck Norris is sitting right behind me as I'm watching this mind-blowing movie that's going to change cinema forever. Yeah. But this is still Chuck Norris. Yeah, it's Chuck Norris. But that's a movie-going experience I will never ever forget and I will cherish. It's one of
Starting point is 01:09:52 the coolest experiences I've ever had at the cinema. The movie theater is is church to me. It's the only place that I feel like community to scale is in the public. Like, I think the theater itself is, is, it costs people out. And I think concerts are expensive. And I, I think there's something really beautiful about the theater being, uh, affordable adjacent like AMCA list and things. So I do find like the populace at the theater. It used to be a really wonderful safe space.
Starting point is 01:10:19 I do find more and more. I have more negative experiences more often now at the modern movie going public. But, um, my general thought is immediately just the summers was I worked in a movie theater from 14 to 20. So for six years, six summers. like I'd be done with school and then I'd start like the craziest movie season of my life. And it felt like Adventureland. It felt like those summer vacation movies, but at work.
Starting point is 01:10:41 And I just have so many fond memories of that. But if we're talking, affecting my career, the first Avengers movie, that was, I mean, I was in L.A., but I was super young. That came out, what, 2012? And I would have been 24. I moved to L.A. when I was 21. So I'm only three years into this crazy city. I'm gonna be 24 so I'm 23 at the time
Starting point is 01:11:05 I'm only two years into this crazy city and I'm not used to comic books being popular yet like they are the movies are doing well but I'm still I'm coming from 20 years of hiding it and only a few years of being public about it and it was really cool to I don't cosplay it's not something I enjoy I don't really like building the outfits
Starting point is 01:11:25 and I don't like feeling like someone getting noticed because like it just I'm uncomfortable in that position I respect cosplayers. I think they're fantastic. I have a lot of friends that cosplay. It's just not my thing. One of the only two times I've cosplayed.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Once was for Dark Night because Warner Brothers had me to be their Joker. And the other was for Avengers. But even then, I was Hawkeye because it was something I could like, I could imagine. And also I like Renner and I like the character. But me and my friends that worked at an Olive Garden at the time, all cosplayed. We had Capp. We had Thor. I was Hawkeye.
Starting point is 01:11:55 It was eight of us. And we stood outside the AMC Burbank and waited because back then you actually waited for the movies. but we got interviewed by AMC and I would then years later go on to work for that same crew that interviewed me when I was at Collider and I would go from Avengers one cosplaying as Hawkeye waiting at midnight
Starting point is 01:12:15 on camera literally being interviewed by like I think the broadcast was Campia so like literally people that I'm peers with now but from Avengers to Winter Soldier I went from waiting in line to I started working in this space with Winter Soldier I was doing my own show called Comic Sense at a tiny network previewing Winter Soldier and then by Infinity War I was
Starting point is 01:12:37 working the red carpet that was my first ever red carpet by end game I was doing junkets and stuff and now I'm here so like Avengers was I was going to be an actor and like I was in LA to be an actor and then by the time it went from Avengers to Winter Soldier I had changed careers changed my life and I think that's a huge impact on my my work that's awesome that's a cool story yeah it was like it was foreshadowing for your career the fact that it was Ames on the thumbnail. If you go to AMC on YouTube, the thumbnail is like me and all my friends. And I didn't know it until like two years ago when I was looking at my Facebook memories. Like that's still to this day, the AMC thumbnail, which is crazy. I'm going to have to look that one up. It's
Starting point is 01:13:13 jarring. Yeah, because I've never seen you in cosplay. It's a two-time thing. I love that. But yeah, a big summer movie fan. And I remember too really quickly, the inner, that's another thing I love about the movie theater going experience. It's an event. Yeah. And I love the, when you, there's been times too. And when I'm in with a crowd, When you get that right crowd, the energy in there, like you can just feel it all right. It's like we're all one. Yeah. That's what I mean like by that.
Starting point is 01:13:38 It's an affordable way to have community. It's really special. And I love it. Like there's no other feeling like it. No. It's really an incredible experience. That's why I like premieres is it feels like a little summer movie event every time. And it's people there to celebrate versus like critique.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Yeah, for sure. Like that first Avengers movie like, like I'll just use one example like when spoilers. It for some reason you haven't seen Avengers. Like when Hulk is like, you. you know, using Loki and to toss him around in that room. Like, everyone was laughing and clapping so much. You couldn't even hear Tom Hiddleston. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Weezing. I'm like, I had to buy it on Blu-ray to hear. I'm like, because I probably saw that movie 10 or 11 times in theaters. No joke. This is when I was, before I had this job and I actually went to the cinema a lot more. I, when I watched it on Bluarez, like, oh, my God, in the 10 or 11 times I saw that in theaters because the crowd was so loud. I didn't even notice that.
Starting point is 01:14:28 And it's such palpable joy, man. Yeah, for sure. John, we got another one. We actually have a lovely segue out of Andrew's ending comments there from Pavel Kaxmerich. I hope I'm saying your name right. Thanks for chiming in. Podcast question. This is something I've been meaning to ask you for a long time,
Starting point is 01:14:46 and it involves not watching movies in the cinema to later react to them. How do you guys go about it? Do you literally draw straws? And how do you then avoid spoilers for some of the higher profile things? No offense to anyone, but when I've seen Deadpool and Wolverine reactions flood the internet, and I found it insanely hard to believe in some cases when they were shocked and had a huge reaction to every cameo. Like, really?
Starting point is 01:15:10 You were able to avoid all of them? Holy crap, that's a lot of text. Sorry about that. Love you guys. This podcast and your mom's house are the only ones where I never skip an app. I appreciate you. I appreciate you. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:24 All right. So I feel like my answer is going to be a little shorter because you actually are the one two responded at home board me. So I'll start this one. I, for so many of my jobs, have to cover a lot of movies. I also don't watch a lot of TV. And I also have a decent amount of blind spots in older movies. So that combination puts me in a spot where I have to just be like, guys,
Starting point is 01:15:44 and like there's some I was supposed to cover like Minecraft I was supposed to do. But then scheduling conflicts in recording it caused me not to be able to do. So me with seven jobs and four of them requiring me to watch the new movies, puts me in a different spot where I just can't sometimes. So it becomes a conversation of like, okay, then. the streaming ones I have to do so like I anytime there's like one of those that we're gonna cover I'm gonna jump on that
Starting point is 01:16:07 if there's a show I'm more likely gonna jump on that so it's kind of compensating for my other jobs where I can't miss the theatrical thing I also you know having grown up in the movie theater industry I'm so tied to the going to the movie part of the press screenings and also like my relationships
Starting point is 01:16:24 with these studios and stuff sometimes I have obligations just from a business standpoint to go so there's a hundred reasons I kind of have to a lot of the time but when I can cover something else to compensate, I try to. Coy, be honest, we draw straws. There's eight straws. You just get lucky every single time. I'm very good at noticing straws.
Starting point is 01:16:42 I'm the one on the short end. Nah, yeah, what, I mean, what happens is, at least this year, we've kind of put a little system in place where I just will come to Greg, and I'll be like, hey, there's at least two movies I have to see in theaters. My choice is this year. Granted, I'd love to see them all in theaters, but obviously with the job. that we have. You know, I'm willing to make that sacrifice. And then probably go out in theaters afterwards and see, which I did with Deadpool and Wolverine. We'll get into the social
Starting point is 01:17:09 media stuff in that question. The two movies that I picked this year were Mission Impossible and John is here. He has not seen it, so I'm not going to get into any spoilers. But the two action set pieces in IMAX were well worth the price of admission. So I'm glad I picked that one. The other one, too, is a man by the name of Jimmy Cameroon. I have to see that movie in theaters. I am not reacting to that movie. told Greg and he said, that's cool. You react to everything else. Those are the two movies set. Nice. So those are the two I picked. I will be seeing Avatar Fire and Ash in theaters in IMAX day one. Hopefully I'll be able to go with you guys. See it early. We'll see. But yeah, I'm excited
Starting point is 01:17:47 to see that. But in regards to how do I avoid spoilers and social media and all that, it's not easy. It's not. What I do is I give Greg my phone. After he's seen the movie, of course he will then mute the words he'll do all the tricks in the book that will do also i did stay away from social media i think it's like the first couple weeks especially is when everyone's on that actively talking about yeah exactly after a few weeks people are still talking about a little bit but like you just mentioned it's it dies down a little bit as time wears on once we get to that streaming phase i still i kind of stay away a little more but that's what i had to do with that Especially with Deadpool and Wolverine, a lot of times we were expecting these movies to come out and streaming pretty quickly now.
Starting point is 01:18:31 And with that one, I was like, I wanted the movie to be successful and stay out as long as possible at the same point for my selfish reasons. I want to see this movie so bad. And also so I can experience in theaters. Yeah. But also listening to all the joy that you guys were having. I'm like, damn it, I want to watch it so bad. But I was so happy for you guys that you were enjoying it as well. But that was a really, that was probably the hardest one I have had to sit out by far.
Starting point is 01:18:56 I can vouch for Andrew on that one because the amount of times you came to either me or Greg or both of us and we're like, hey, listen, I'm really concerned about this. Can you take a look at my blocked keywords just to make sure, see if you can add anything else to this? And we were like, shoot, what do we do? I guess we're going to have like gammon, bleed. Yeah, there's a lot of, Wesley Snives. Yeah, yeah. So like, I can vouch for the fact that Andrew really did. And it, and it, you know, you're a guy who checks comments, man.
Starting point is 01:19:22 It seemed like it took a lot of resolve. It was not easy. Maybe more so for you than Tara even. Yeah, yeah, Tara. I mean, we love Tara, but she, I mean, she doesn't really check comments at all. So there was no danger of her. She's a piece with the world. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:36 She's smarter than me. But, yeah, no, I mean, the whole thing for me, too, is I want to interact with people and also for my own self as well. It's kind of like, it's a constructive thing for me. If there's something I'm doing that I think I can be better at, sometimes I'll check for that reason as well. well, but probably would be a lot more stress-free if I didn't as much. I've cut back. It's nice. But yeah, that was definitely the toughest one I've ever had to sit out. Again, the reaction was incredible. I got to see it in theaters, thankfully. Yeah. I wish it would have been a pack crowd, like to my point earlier where I was talking about that energy you feel in the
Starting point is 01:20:11 crowd because there were so many points where I'm laughing out that there's nobody else in the theater. It was still a fun experience to see it in the theater, but I really did miss having a crowd with me for sure but it was fun to still see you know and avatars is going to be here before we know it man oh i can't wait i'm so excited five whatever you think of those movies like just seeing it on a theater it's it's such a movie going it's an event yeah truly really is any james cameron film is an event the abyss we watched and loved oh my god that's one of my favorite that is one of my favorite reactions and we one day we highest rated movie yeah we have to do the director's cut one day yeah it's my highest rate reaction for personal and we'll do the director scott maybe we'll
Starting point is 01:20:44 get it like three years rejects 2030 all right those questions were amazing thank you Thank you. As always, you lovely's super sexy rejects. Send in your questions. You help us guide this part of the show. So please send those in. I love to hear what people want to guide us through.
Starting point is 01:20:59 So that is going to do it for this episode. Thank you so very much. Greg, we'll be back, I believe, next week. So I'll be sitting here. I'll be sitting there next time. But hope you guys enjoyed this episode of Real Rejects, R-E-A-L. Please leave a comment below. Let us know what you thought of the Superman poster discussion,
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