The Reel Rejects - FINAL DESTINATION 5 (2011) BLEW OUR FREAKIN' MINDS!!! MOVIE REVIEW!! First Time Watching!!

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

HOLY $#*! THAT TWIST ENDING!! Final Destination 5 Full Reaction Watch Along:   / thereelrejects   Save & Invest In Your Future Today, visit: https://www.acorns.com/rejects Last Stop along the road to Final Destination: Bloodlines With Final Destination: Bloodlines out now, the wheels of Death keep on turning as Aaron, John, & Andrew return for The Final Destination Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, & Spoiler Review!! When Sam Lawton (Nicholas D’Agosto, Heroes, The Office) has a chilling premonition that the high-speed bus he’s on will plunge off a collapsing suspension bridge, he and classmates Molly Harper (Emma Bell, The Walking Dead, Detroit), Peter Friedkin (Miles Fisher, The Social Network, Sharknado 5), Candice Hooper (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood, The Bold and the Beautiful), and paramedic Olivia Castle (Jacqueline MacInnes Wood, Final Destination 5, Impulse) jump clear just seconds before disaster strikes. But Death’s design is relentless—and it begins reclaiming its victims in precise order. From Molly’s grisly surgery-table trap and Peter’s skyscraper elevator plunge, to Candice’s chilling meat-locker entrapment and Olivia’s fiery paramedic van horror, each death is a Rube-Goldberg-esque chain reaction. Don’t miss the nail-biting final twist that rewinds us to Flight 180, linking back to the very first Final Destination—one of the most searched-for endings in horror history. Join Aaron Alexander, Andrew Gordon & John Humphrey as they break down every inventive kill, dissect the “photo-vision” premonition mechanic, and debate whether anyone can ever truly outsmart Death! Follow Aaron On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealaaronalexander/?hl=en Follow Andrew Gordon on Socials:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MovieSource Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/agor711/?hl=en Twitter:  https://twitter.com/Agor711 Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Sounds about right. Well, before we get into our feelings, I think we have some Patreon questions. That is right. Our Royal Rejects guiding the Convo to start. We bow to you. And this is going to be a fascinating one to discuss. We got a wealth. Questions here from Haseana Ali to start us off.

Oh, boy. If you heard someone yelling and warning everyone in public that something bad will happen that will kill everyone, like the plane will explode or there will be a pile up, would you listen and believe that person? Hell yeah, I would. Now, after these movies, 100%. Now I feel like that would already spook me, but I feel like especially after these experiences, I'm going to become that much more superstitious. Oh, yeah, writing's on the wall. It's weird. And now if it ever happens, I'm going to have to hold myself to that

because I'm like, if I try to pass this off in real life as just someone being in a moment of disorientation or whatever, I feel like I'm going to pay for that. I mean, we're already in a state of paranoia whenever you're on like a flight or something like that in general. When someone starts yelling that and we've seen these movies, we're like, damn it. Yeah, yeah.

This has come for us. I'm listening. Logan Nelson asks, or has to say, after watching the entire final destination series, do you think death is just a force of nature? Or is he actually a bored sentient being playing a twisted game? He gives people visions just to see what they'll do. He lets them think they have a chance, but we know he always wins. Every death feels like it was crafted with intent almost like he's entertaining himself. So what do you think?

Is death just fate doing its thing? or is he a character, intelligent, manipulative, and bored out of his immortal mind? Definitely the second one. Yes, I think it's both. I think death is an entity that is bored and wants to play games with humans. If you see how elaborate and creative

some of these deaths are, it's for sure to me the second one. He is mean, he is cruel, and he is having fun. He used to be catty, but before the events of 180, now you're just mean. He's just a mean guy. I just on myself. Every time I try to arrive at a conclusion,

it's hard to like the other I like both ideas which is my favorite part of this question is like it works for me either way and I think they do just the right amount of hinting in both directions to where you're pretty sure that death is like actually

sentient in some way but it would still work to assume maybe it's not but there is something about yeah especially in certain installments the way like if you get too many fake outs of people like almost getting killed, but then, like, getting rid of some kind of risk or threat or whatever, you know, those, those like tension and release moments of like, oh, you think it's going to come from this, but then, who, actually, no, it didn't. That's usually the point in which, you know, the movie will introduce, like, here's a random breeze to get things back in order. You know, here's a random thing that couldn't have happened simply by circumstance or seems really our happenstance, I should say, or seems like especially hard to believe as a coincidence.

And I think those are the little, little tells of like, I think death is maneuvering here sometime. I feel like we've seen certain moments in these movies where like some flip will switch, some switch will be flipped or some button will get pressed that like just is disembodied in doing so. Oh, yeah, it's definitely some maliciousness there. And yeah, be catty. Caddy and mean. I think they like it. Stop it, death. Yeah.

And I think the real question, I guess beneath this question is, is it Tony Todd? Or is Tony Todd just so well versed in seeing this given his position that he is kind of like a chaotic neutral force just kind of watching it all play out? That's kind of the vibe I got. But I think it would be interesting if they committed to Tony Todd being death. But the fact that it's they've kept that thing of it like, oh, he just knows. We don't know. Is he working with death? Is he just aware of death?

I mean, it's fun to speculate on. But I like the mystery too. like of not knowing but still thinking like it could be him because like I think we all thought that right away in the first movie like and then obviously too the filmmakers are playing with us too because not having him visually in the film in the third one but having him literally be the voice of the devil in that one scene and then on the subway later it's like I love how they're just messing with us there and then obviously he wasn't in the fourth film but again it's just something that's fun to to speculate and to run the rumor mill on but But I hope they never personally reveal it. I just like, you know, playing around with it. Yeah, I think it's fun to have both possibilities in play. Andrew Laxton wants to know. What is your favorite?

Andrew's favorite premonition of the premonition setups for each movie so far. For Andrew, it says the second movie setup is probably their favorite. The second one is amazing. This one was incredible, too, on the bridge. I like how, again, the second one was great, but I like how in this one, they really, took their time with each character whereas in some of the other ones as great as they all were everything happened really really quickly whereas we got to kind of know each character

even through their deaths here so i don't know i i'm like so inclined to say this it's between this one and the second one honestly i it's hard for me i might go with this one but i i love the second one the first one was great i love them all even the fourth one i still like that premonition it's definitely my weaker one but i'm the goofiest which i one. Four is the goofiest. You mean the premonitions? No,

no, I, I agree. Because that's the race track, right? The race. Yeah, the NASCAR race is the funniest, is the way, is the silliest. Yeah, uh, I would say this one might be the best in terms of like the film make, like the, the, the, the techniques available to make it happen. Yeah. Make the effects look really good.

I think the second one is probably like top tier fave because it's both ridiculous, but it's also you know kind of wide reaching and there's like big explosions and a lot of again people getting splattered and stuff and it's it's a very tangible place and scenario and then this reminded me of that just with a lot better you know there's more modern techniques at play so I feel like for me I guess it would be like two five um I mean one you know is is the OG and it's nice because it feels a little different than all the rest of them because it's like a 90s movie so like there's a different tangibility to how that was done and it looked really good for the time so i would put that one in the middle uh and then what was what was the open three is the roller coaster yeah that was a good the roller coaster is pretty good i think i'd put that at at maybe four and then five i would put the NASCAR the racetrack just because i mean they're all good but that one's yeah like the silliest and it's it's the least sort of cohesive I would say.

Yeah, I would go 5, 2, 1, 3, 4. That's a good, I like that order. Yeah, it's a good one. Yeah, it's like I would let 5 and 2, kind of depending on the day, grapple at the top for, for premonition supremacy.

Kenny G.V. 92. Love your music, Kenny G. Hey, he bust out that alto sacks. Now that you've seen the franchise come full circle, how do you feel about them tying it all together? Any thoughts or predictions about what bloodlines, Final Destination 6, added or enhanced

from the series with such a gap between movies? Are you excited to see a sixth one? Hell yes to the last question. I'm excited to see the thing that's cool right now

about this is like because of the ending of this movie my mind is a little bit blown and I feel like you could do some saw shit with this franchise in a very fun way and part of me imagines that maybe bloodlines would have something

to do with relatives of or I don't know how you would get a descendant of but something it suggests that there's relation to what has come before. Technically the only people that haven't died that were part of the premonitions were the two that were number three they were still alive at the end. I thought it was

number two. It was three because they were at the picnic because the girl she survived dunking in the car or the van and then the kid was that two you might be right you might be right I think it was two. Two I think three they were on the subway and then you're so right

you're so right my bad. Yeah it's okay Continuity Master here. I don't know about that. But also, too, to your point in regards to, like, I didn't, obviously, I haven't seen one, one second really of saw. But I think they did something very similar to this and tying it back in one of the paranormal activity films as well. That too. Yeah. That was timey, whimey.

Like, oh, this was happening. Well, that was happening. This is a secret. Yeah, yeah. I haven't seen those. I would love to watch it one day. Yeah, I won't spot. But Tara and I were tripping when that I'm like, holy shit.

Yeah. Yeah. That's so awesome. But yeah, that was. I like how we were starting. to predict that as it was happening and then it was still mind blowing for us. So like that's how you know it like

it wasn't predictable but it was still satisfying at the same time. I was noticing this is the only one that hasn't established a flight 180 happening. I noticed that too and I was waiting for someone to be like because I thought Courtney B. Vance would be the one to be like I heard about this flight one. Every

movie has that trope of there was this flight and so yeah it's I think the ways they teed that up are really, really well done, actually. I would venture to say, and actually, so on top of Kenny GV92's question, Kev B asks, did you notice any hints that Final Destination 5

wasn't set in the present day while you were watching, or did you, or did the twist at the end completely surprise you? It definitely got me. It got me too. I think their tells were really subtle, but you could pick them out. Yeah, no, like they said, it got me as well. I was definitely questioning myself because as mentioned with the cell phone

I don't know the year this movie came out I didn't look it up 2011 2011 okay but I was saying like I'm curious why he's using I kept saying that in my head I didn't verbalize it out loud but that and also they kept on talking about Paris I'm like in my head again I said

we're not going to do that so I was starting to just question it again in my mind but I'm I was but I really didn't think they were going to go that territory so the movie, again, because the movie was subverting me in so many different other ways, I only thought about it for half a second.

Yeah, I think with obviously the premise of the franchise being about death, you're really only thinking about the immediacy of the moment. Yes. And granted, in the back of my mind I'm like, this is the only movie to not mention it. But for me, I felt like that was the strength of the film, not having to

rely on it because the other films though have their own individual qualities about them make them good, this thing about the setup we're like okay we've done this before let's get them all on the page on the same page so we can get through the deaths but this one treated it as if it was the first time it was happening and the way that the information was relayed to the characters didn't feel uh contrived or like obligatory it felt organic to the story that they were telling yeah yeah absolutely i would say this was this was really well handled because yeah you've got

the cell phone thing you have the constant illusions to going to paris and i think the way you even cut to the airport at the end you see the plane and you're like and it is i think you know you have that vague you know if we've only seen it once you have that you know image in the back of your mind of like you know the planes of the 90s are pretty thick boy and uh you know you see the plane roll up and i think at least for me it was sort of it crosses your mind i think it's designed to make you go like would it be funny if it was like the same flight i may i said it right before it happened yeah yeah and that was so rewarding like that i would have killed to be there opening night with people to see that reveal coming out.

Because it is, yeah, like this, I am impressed with this one because this one, again, has really solid, sharp filmmaking and to come up with not only like a more direct way to do the thing and give it some breathing room

and give it some character, but without going, you know, we know why we're here. And it's like really well balanced for all those purposes. And then to bring in this added element of timey, whyminess

is really, really fun, and especially for your adification, Andrew, because I know you're not a saw a person. Part of what I mean when I say that is, yeah, like those movies do get like soap opera levels of like, this was happening, well, this was happening, and this character's actually that character, and this character's

from over here, and this guy was involved in the first thing, but now, and so like Oh, yeah, not that they're going to... But it's fun. Yeah, and not that this is going to go as a franchise completely down that rabbit hole, but after, again, of shakier installment,

like the final destination. This was like back with a bang. This was like we are firing on all cylinders and we found a clever way to tie this in to not use the trope of exposition from before because we already get it. And now I'm like, damn, what is bloodline going to do? And how much is this going to factor in? And like what level, what new possibilities will be down the line in the six movie or any movies beyond that?

And I also want to thank our lovely fans. for not spoiling it too because I do I do read the comments and not one time thankfully did I read that this was actually a prequel yeah it's going to tie into the first film at the very end so the guy seriously thank you for not doing that yeah yeah hence definitely I would say at least for me I was certainly surprised by the twist I definitely didn't see it coming any predictions for bloodlines um it's gonna be his grand it's gonna be his son it's gonna be Devon Sawwall Secret son.

Secret son that they had before he got. Devin Saw was secretly is alive. He really didn't die. That was, yeah, Clear Rivers gave birth before the events of part two in that padded cell. And then they're going to show a flashback where they just pan to the right and there's a little baby there. Exactly.

It was actually their baby the whole time. But yes, absolutely excited to see a six. I can't way. I've heard it's fantastic. So let me ask you guys this. Uh-huh. With us now knowing this a prequel, if you guys were to do a rewatch, would it change,

the order in which you watch the movies? That's a good question. You know, that's a good question. You know, I would still watch it this. I would still watch it the normal way we watched it. I would say, yeah. I really like this being the fifth installment. And I think after part four, this was a big ups.

Not to, again, part four is fun. And part four, it's like any Freddie movie. It's like there are a lot of bad Freddy movies, but they are all enjoyable to some degree or another, maybe minus the remake because the dreams and the kills are creative and fun. Final Destination is very much that as well. But I would say that after the filmmaking experience of part four and the fact that these are both intending 3D, I think this does work as a, it's weird. Like I would enjoy the experiment of watching five first, but I feel like it really naturally justifies its position in a fun way.

Well, I feel like if I were to rewatch it, I would watch one, then five, then two. Okay. Yeah. I could be with that. Because it's, yeah, because it's, I feel like if you watch one first, it, it, um, it loses, if you watch five first, it lose, what, the event of one loses impact. Yeah, yeah. So because, obviously, you see that the plane already exploded. So then you, you'll spend all of one going, why isn't anybody coming in?

Like, there was this bridge that collapsed. And these guys got premonitions. And they all started dying in freak accidents. It's really crazy. And it was bridge number 180 in the country. Now it's crazy to think about in the lore that it didn't. start with is Devin tell us Alex yeah it's crazy to think that it didn't start with him like it's been happening before who knows even how long to go back yeah to see if they reference a bridge

thing yeah right yeah I don't know well now I want to go back to one but I don't I doubt they did that right the fun thing about this franchise is that I highly doubt it I mean like it's possible it's another one of those disasters that does happen that you might read in a paper that they could have thrown out there as some kind of offhand like ooh what about this tragedy but i you know i i have no expectation that they laid a seed you know way back then but unintentionally so like yeah this is the first time like this thing crazy thing happened a couple weeks ago could be could be we'll have to go back and examine um michael penton i think an obvious question would be what was your favorite and least

favorite death scene i got this i personally like the apartment fire scene from two and the gymnastics scene from five both are excellent tension builders that gymnasics scene was really quick are we talking about the whole series or the fifth film? I think you can take this whatever way you want Michael Penton's question demonstrates the full franchise

but go whichever I'm going to just go with the fifth film my favorite one in this film was by far in the premonition when David what's his last name who played Dennis oh Kekner David Kekner I'm not going to mispronounce names anymore I'm just going to let John fill in the blanks from

When he got burnt, was it with oil or with get, that was tar. You know what that reminded me of a little bit? It was obviously a little bit different because with, have you seen Robocop? A long time ago ago, yeah. Okay. When Emil got, you know, burned with the acid and then you,

I mean, that's one of the most grotesque deaths I've ever seen. And obviously, you got hit the car and all that. But still, that effect has seared into my brain, but that one is my favorite death of the film, my least favorite in this film. It's a tie between Candace, because the bone is protruding and that's going to stick with me forever, no pun intended

and also the one with the laser and the eyes and then coming in and then the car smushes the eye, it's a tie between those two. Those are my least favorite. They're incredible, but I'm grossed out. The gymnastics one I think is, yeah, is

quite impressive. I mean, the premonition in this I thought was super strong and a really nice chain reaction, really gory and gooey. I would say, yeah, for the actual chain reaction of deaths post the premonition, the gymnastics one is easily like the, the sharpest in terms of like it's a dance of tension and release. And then the squirmiest is the LASIC.

I'm trying to think of what the least favorite one would be because like pretty, pretty much everyone from this movie has been pretty fun. Squirmie is the best word. My least favorite of this movie would probably be Roy's death because it was kind of quick. Kind of quick. I like that thing. But I like the reveal. I like the reveal of it though, because you think he might have just held on as like, you

know what I mean? Maybe just burned his hands from holding on. And then it's like, oh, no. I think my least favorite of this movie might, by process of elimination, be the stab. The stab. Did he get stabbed at the very end? With the rotissary thing. The rotisserie, maybe it's either that or the wrench through the face. Like the wrench through the face was a really cool effect. But of all the death sequences, it literally is the most. just like, just like the thing falls, it hits him in the face.

And like it's kind of, it feels almost out. It feels more like a joke than a kill. It definitely did build up the tension to that one. Like we did with the other ones and subvergis, it just happened like that. I'm trying to think the least favorite in the entire series is a tough one. I feel like there are a couple that are just like,

oh, they get their head sliced in half or something like that. Sean Williams Scott started that one, right? I'm trying to think of like what the most cop-outy death would have been. I think butt suck was. was a cop-out death. That was the cop-out.

Bud-Suck had the most potential and could have hit harder on the delivery. I will say, like the build-up to that was so wacky. And then the payoff, I think, could have been crazier. But I also get the sense that that movie maybe didn't get all the means it wanted to be what it needed to be.

Like, you know, in that movie, you know what? I will say that I think my least favorite death scene is the end of part four. where you go into Mortal Kombat, uh, X-ray vision and you see the three of them get taken out in the cafe at the end, uh, and, you know, it's just like a CG cut scene before the credits roll. Like that scene happens. And I'm like, I get what function this is serving as like the final gotcha moment of the movie and, and, you know, oh, they didn't make it. But it also felt very much like a, we don't have the budget for this. Just do some CGI. Yeah. Yeah. For me, it would be that one or the one where the guy just gets hit by the, with the water.

tank because the floor I was like that just feels that just feels like incompetent more than death interfering with everything yeah and then final question I believe comes from Duke suave Aaron John Andrew

hi do you all think this this is a head scratcher it's a hard one so think hard scratch do you all think this one is better than the fourth and if so do you think the ending at the end of five gave it the edge? No, the fourth

is the best one in the series. I will stand by that. 100%. Yeah. My top five final destination movies are the final destination, the final destination, the final destination, final destination three and the final destination. Yeah. Yeah. Those are the only ones I recognize. Can't disagree with that.

Yeah. Of course. Yeah. This one was definitely better. And does this give it an edge in regards to that ending? I mean, for sure. I mean, we first of all none of us were expecting but again it was done in such a satisfying way that it just adds to the lore the story as well yeah and i just i really again besides the fact that i as i said earlier i was questioning in my own mind like are they really going to go that territory i think it was well earned that we did go that wishy-washy timey-wimey territory and i'm glad we did wibly wobbly wobbly i think four has my favorite line of the franchise for sure uh i'm trying to take myself out all day oh god i mean four has an iconically wild

tone and that whole scene with him it was like the cut from from them sitting on the bed and him be like i'm trying to do this all damn day and then they cut immediately to them like laughing and like drinking champagne and before that it was the scene with him just sitting with the rope on his next yeah it was like the total whiplash is wild in that like that movie favorite scene yeah we're like are we in the same move what just happened it was so weird but in the best way oh oh yeah this is a special franchise yeah i've loved it even the four i've i've really seriously it's been a blast i understand why non-horror and gore movie fan coy genre actually does love

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overall acting. Like, I really like the first movie for how it treats the conceit and everything like that. But even, I would say, all four of the preceding installments have a bit of that, like, wacky teen movie energy. And this movie starts that way a little bit. And there's that whole thing outside the, you know, the mill, whatever they're working at, where Olivia comes up. And she's like, they're called boobs. And she, like, you know, takes her shirt off in the middle. And in those opening moments, I was like, okay, we're back to, you know, wacky teen movie territory.

But pretty quickly, this movie kind of dispensed with that. I like that, you know, again, the acting was, like, well calibrated to be dramatic enough, but also fun enough. I mean, you have the acupuncture guy as, like, your main comedic relief character. That was my favorite death. That was the best character. He didn't deserve it. I just adore that he asked if she came with subtitles and then the movie proceeded to give her subtitle. Only after he asked, which I think is hilarious.

But yeah, this had a really well-rounded thing where it's still a tight 90 and the cast they got fit the bill for who you'd expect to be in these movies, but we're above average in terms of being able to sell this stuff combined with the direction, both on the suspense and the horror side, but also just honoring the tone that the scene work scenes are going for. And it didn't come across as like too overly dramatic so as to be cheesy. but it's like I actually cared about Sam and Molly and I actually kind of thought that the friends story him kind of dealing with this conundrum of like we're all supposed to die in order maybe you can swap somebody in am I a killer can I do this and like him going out and like wandering the streets and like it's not a huge part of the movie but it's like this

this had a lot of nice little flourishes up its sleeves great to have Tony Todd back on screen every death like this is a movie where yeah even if you're ranking the deaths like every death had some level of personality to it, even Roy, which, you know, isn't the flashiest or most insane death, but has like at least some flavor, a little oomph put on it. And, uh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Like, I think the first one is, is, it's that thing where it's like, you wouldn't have any of this without the first one. But in some ways, I think this may be the best like pound for pound movie they have made out of this that delivers on all the stuff and the

tropes of a final destination movie but that also yeah has like characters that you can get on board with enough maybe not anybody quite as iconic as like you know devonsawa in that movie has you know lasted the test of time i feel like as like a character people think of they think of him as you know one of horrors like scream kings for movies like that but in terms of yeah like the ensemble and the array of deaths and the treatment of the tone and the conceit and the paranoia and the grief element and you know it's like Courtney B. Vance isn't even that plugged into the plot but even him like the way they treated his presence felt conscientious and felt well again rounded and attenuated this was a blast this was like really well done yeah yeah the music too you guys were pointing out

frequently yeah Brian Tyler did a great job and yeah I agree with a lot of what you just said I really like how the film just started like tonally besides if we didn't watch the opening credits you would not even think we were watching a final destination. I would be surprised that we were. So that was a great way to open. It was a way to hype us up. Yeah, for sure. I think this film got back to being a lot more tonally balanced

after the incredible fourth film where it was just whiplash all over the place. And that's the biggest. This is, yeah, complete 180. Hey. I understood that reference. But yeah, that's the biggest thing when it comes to balance. When it comes to tones,

you got to balance it out a little bit. You know, when you go to, I'm trying to kill myself all day. and then you're just having a drink, it's like that's not really balancing at all. Just like cut to. Yeah, but again, then getting into the premonition

and then really taking your time so we can get an understanding and knowing who these characters are, get some emotional depth and get to know these guys so that we feel that. God forbid, when it does happen, we're going to feel something.

So, yeah, and the acting, again, not talking crap about anybody who acted and forth a month. I just don't think they had a lot to work with. although the actor from Forrest Gump, he did all he could, and I'm sure everyone else did as well. He's a way better actor than that movie suggests. Yeah, for sure, for sure.

But I... Did him dirty. But also, too, to what you were saying in regards, I know it wasn't a big part of it, but I like seeing how Peter, as the film got along, and he thought like, hey, he could trade places with someone. I thought that was an interesting place psychosis-wise to go with someone, and I liked it being reflected off, you know,

as the film was going later on, like you could see his appearance was changing as he was getting crazier, so was his appearance. I thought that was an interesting way to give a visual in regards to that. And, you know, I kind of thought that earlier on, like, who's going to be the one? I thought maybe it was going to be Isaac, you know,

but he's too much of a womanizer, I guess, to be focused on doing survival. And so I think Peter was probably the most realistic and logical place to go, obviously with the death of Candace. and then like it it is an interesting place like what do you do like do you want will you do go to the the world's end to survive if you can and I thought that was fascinating that they went there like it adds a lot of tension and suspense when we are already there because we're

waiting for these bombastic and crazy deaths to happen and now we got to deal with this and also there's a personal touch here because this guy is friends with these two it's like you know what I mean he was trying to do with a stranger at first And then he realized, wait, this might not, like the game might be. I have to do it with someone who deserve to live. So that's what the game might be in regards to death. So I just thought that was such a fascinating and dramatic angle to take. And I really like this film a great deal.

And again, obviously the kills is what we come for, right? And those were amazing. They have built suspense. They subverted our expectations. I'm never going to get that gymnastics one ever out of it. my head ever or the lasic one was quite a scene that the way that body folded was wow okay yeah yeah yeah crazy words yes yes yeah crazy work yeah so i i dug this film a great deal and i'm i'm i'm so anxious to get to bloodlines because i have heard no spoilers but i've

heard so many great things yeah i've heard i've heard good things myself yeah i'm gonna keep it keep it brief but i love this one i think this is my favorite one that this is the one that actually honored its characters the most this is the one that brought back the building of tension of how the deaths are going to happen you really cared about uh sam and molly in their relationship the fact that i remember their names is just attested to the fact that yeah they really showed you in an hour and a half that we can have satisfying deaths but also characters we want to follow just for that to be subverted because you you want them to live through this entire thing for that to be subverted to now they are the ones that are the part of the pinnacle

death to set up this franchise and i like that obviously i'm excited for bloodlines but i think that having a nice bow on the franchise with five was you know i'm like okay i get why they didn't make another one after this it makes sense why they would tie it all up um but yeah with with that um i will say yeah so my order for films themselves four to one three. I think same as my kills honestly. You mean five you mean first? You said four. Oh my bad. I meant for. No, that's correct.

No, no, no. Four. Sorry. But I think it's interesting that four was the one that felt the most like obligatory in the sense that they were just like, okay we're going to go through the motion. It's not really going to get you attached to character. One of our friends is going to die

off screen. We're not going to mention it again. Yeah. But each Final Destination movie prior to three or prior between like so one to two was three year jump two to three was a three year jump

three to four is a four year jump the final destination the last one was 2009 but that was the shortest jump from yeah from four to five and five is the best one and four is the worst one so I'm like how do that how does that work out of the 13th

the final chapter came out like less than a year before the new blood really 84 85 yeah yeah oh wow damn yeah and then one other thing too of what you were just talking about I like that this film got back to when someone died like people are back to being paranoid again or like actual affecting and having ramifications and consequences to a friend's death and like seeing that on screen rather than oh yeah let's go to the movie theater we're all good nothing happened let's yeah yeah no I want to see this movie it's like wait what

Yeah, the movie treat of the deaths like cannon fodder. Yeah, exactly. And one other thing, too, I really liked in regards to Sam and... What was Sam's girlfriend's name? Molly. Molly. Damn it. I feel so bad.

I really liked in regards to Sam and Molly. I like at the beginning that when there was an issue, I thought there was, like, I wasn't sure what the problem was with the relationship. I like how they gave that relationship time to breathe. And we grew to have an understanding of what she had so much. much love and care for him that she wanted him to prosper and live out his dreams and Paris but I like that they took their time and didn't reveal that right away and we got to care for them even more in that I thought that was great I guess I got some crazy info for you guys

hit me with it okay so the writer of this movie Eric Heiserer wrote get ready get ready for a journey right now this he wrote a movie that you guys watched not long ago and and I think some good yes actually I mean we'll get to that It wrote Lights Out. Oh, that was a fun reaction. Also wrote the 2011 The Thing. Never seen that. Never seen it.

I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I've heard what I've heard. I'm curious to watch it. Wrote the 2010 Nightmare on Elm Street. Oh, wow. And wrote, a rival. What?

Arrival. What? This is the same guy. Birdbox. Who are you? Bloodshot with Vin Diesel. He's had an interesting career. And extinction.

And then the director, Steve Quayle. Yeah. I asked that earlier. What is he? Not as Into the Storm director credit, but has a bunch of second unit and assisting director credits, assistant director credits for like James Cameron Flicks. Avatar,

second unit director. Wow. Worked on Titanic, True Lies, T2 Judgment Day. Was there some okay film? Greyhound with Tom Hanks is another one that he's on for, for second unit in assistant direction. So like,

I guess I get why there was a certain level of like umph behind the camera on this one because you've got like a guy who's been backing up Jimmy camera over here and a guy who at least would go on to write a rival. So, you know, that makes up for the 2010 nightmare on Elm Street, I suppose.

I still like the mic I still like the micro knaps in that. But aside from that, Cardinal Sin was extremely boring film. All right. With this franchise being a roller coaster, no point in 10 days. Okay. Let's guess what the

RT? Final Destination 5 Rotten Tomato Scores. For the critics, I still feel like they'd probably be unkind to this film. I'm going to go with,

I'm going to go with 48. Okay, John. I'd go higher, but that's what I think they would go. 70%. You're on 70. You're going low. You're going high.

Are you guys locking it in? I'm locking it in. Wow. You said, what was it? 48. 48. 48? it's going to go to John

with 63 63 is not that so bad I'm glad to be wrong about that For a lot of horror movies I feel like the tomato meter You have to double Because like a lot of pretty decent Horror movies have gotten like 40%.

So every now and again My handicap theory breaks the scale And this is one of those It's a hundred and a lot of respect 16% In horror In horror ratings That's a well fresh tomato

It's pretty high Okay Okay, let's go with the audience, yes. All right, John, you won. So last one. Audience. Oh, man. Audia's got a guy to be eating this shit up.

Yeah. I hope. I'm going 90. 90 for audience. I'll go 81. Audience is 53. Whoa. What?

Right? What is happening? That, why? That would literally be the opposite of what I would think. Yeah. Huh. It's a freaking What is going on?

I have no idea. I wonder how the, I'm curious to see the comments because I'm wondering how this has changed. I know, I know part of the fun of the tomato meter in both critical and audience is sort of, it's like we'll watch Last Action Hero and that got not very good ratings back in the day. But yet is like a loved classic now. So like part of me wonders if the opinions have changed.

Yeah, maybe. Hopefully. That's some bullshit. This is a great one. I wholeheartedly agree. I also like that you have one lonely page with just your AMCA list app floating amongst no other. It's true. It's great beach wallpaper, the moon, and just your little alias.

I have another shoot right after this, but really quick, what is the worldwide box office? Oh. Enough to get a sequel many years later. 100 mil. 100,000 mil. 120 mil. What did it cost to make it? But we're going to get that really quickly.

after that. 150 mil. 150, 120? Mm-hmm. 157. Hey. All right. So they did pretty well,

but not like so gangbusters that it got a sequel immediately. Budget. Last thing and we're done. Budget. Oh, we go 90 mil. 90.

Mm. See, after four, I'm like, would they spend more on this or less? I mean, it looks like they spent more. 60. 40. Okay.

So this is actually not the, it's either on par with some of the more expensive ones or not the most expensive. One of these costs like 50, didn't I don't know. I can't know. We'll go back. But anyway, 40 is not bad for something like this. This is not bad. Yeah, I felt like an 80, 90 million dollars. This is the rare movie where I'm like, yeah, this is a mid-budget movie.

They seemed like it got just enough of the resources that it needed. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, well, all right, guys. That'll be us for it. That'll be it for us today. Bloodline's next. Bloodline is next. Eminent to look out for that.

Until next time. Duses. Melissa Taylor. Are you in luck? Because it's John's birthday. A. John. All I wanted to do.

Where are you and Melissa going to go hang out on your birthday? We are going. Let's see. All right. Let's think. We're going to go take a driver. across a bridge and look out over the various waters around town. We're going to go to a factory where they pour like molten metal and stuff like that,

and we're just going to like take a tour around, see what kind of sites we can take in. Then maybe we'll go to a restaurant and like wander around the kitchen after the restaurant has closed and, you know, try and not get sliced up by like, you know, the various kitchen implements and stuff like that. And then maybe we'll take an escalator and get crushed inside of it. Or, hey, maybe we could go back into the earlier sequels and we can go take in like a car race or a roller coaster. The possibilities are endless. And I know that with you, we're going to be safe and nothing bad is going to happen. And, you know, we're going to cheat all possible boundaries of the universe.

Oh, hell yeah. It's going to be good. It's going to be fun, and, you know, obviously, if anything tries to foil our fun, we'll just put someone else into the tandem to take our place so that we can continue on living. It's going to be a good one. That sounds like an excellent time. Sounds like a good birthday. Yeah.

Thanks for making it special, as you always do.