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Listeners of the Reject Nation, it is a momentous occasion.
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It's finally here, 2023 FNAF, on the big and small screen from Blumhouse and Universal Pictures.
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What we're talking about today is Five Nights at Freddy's.
Let's just jump into it, people.
Here we go.
Game over.
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I don't like movies, really.
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All right.
Well, John, what do you think?
I thought this was a strange and interesting experience.
You'd be nice, man.
There's a rabid fan base out there.
They will tear you limb from limb closer to that.
The games are like.
They want them to move of you into some kind of gearbox.
Yeah.
I mean, you got to kind of respect it a little bit.
Like in the sense of that I understand fandoms can be very sensitive.
They've been wanting this for a very long time.
Oh, yeah.
A clamor at the bit for it.
And I understand that, you know, they're probably ones to eat this all up way more.
Yeah.
And so, yeah, what is your take on it?
Factoring that in?
No, totally.
I mean, this definitely also be extremely on.
Sugarcoach, your extreme honesty.
Your authenticity.
I thought this was a very fun movie experience.
It's not what I expected.
It's definitely a strange movie.
However, I can't pretend like I wasn't giddy and enjoying seeing the characters come to life,
spending time inside of Freddy's,
and just thinking of the promise that this property has,
you know, beyond just one movie.
Yeah, this is in some ways like the Blumhouse take on Five Nights at Freddy's that you might expect.
The execution is like kind of peculiar and curious to me.
And I'm, you know, kind of, I'm excited to kind of bat it back and forth with you right now.
But as it stands, I'm not 100% like, that's exactly the experience I was hoping for.
But at the same time, it was always intriguing.
no matter what and sometimes
it was being effectively creepy
and and you know
nodding to the games in ways that were
obviously very fun
and in other ways I was scratching my head
a little bit as to like what the true
intent was and what was maybe
more twisted
before like I think
the thing is I think this movie is in kind
of a strange position because I think
it has to play towards
a very wide age range
these games are rated teen it has a very dark grim twisted lore that lends itself to an r-rated experience so i think
this movie's impact kind of gets muddled in between all that um but i had a good time regardless
i don't think this movie needs to be made mithrigan no i think it's i think in terms of an actual movie
It's not a great comparison.
I do think, though, that Mithrigan is a PG-13 Blumhouse film.
Yes, it did.
That did it exceptionally well.
And it didn't feel to PG-13, you know, it works that way.
Like, when I was watching this, sometimes, you know, you might watch something, you go,
you start rewriting it in your head, and you're thinking about what you would have done differently.
And I don't, when I was, when I say that, I'm not even thinking to myself, what would I do to,
to rewrite it in terms of
here's what I would change about this character
here's what I would change about this character
that's not that I would I really I'm like
I would just kind of rearrange the placement
and unveiling of how a lot of it was done
so it could actually be effective
because for the most part
I didn't really feel much tension
I didn't really find it exciting
I didn't really find it's suspenseful
and it was kind of like
intermittent
yeah
it wasn't that
funny not that I was like
walking and expecting to laugh
I just I do feel
that like it nor is it
nor do I have strong
feelings about anything that is
egregiously bad
you know like that yeah it's neither
especially good nor bad I found it
to be very
very mid
to
a high low
with
with an occasional
like honestly like
the parts
that I thought saying the most were a little bit more
of the oddities that were not advertised
like some of the dream moments perhaps.
I mean, I can imagine how to feel a little bit.
You know, and it was strange to me
is like for the most part,
the lore that they explored
did not mean to rhyme,
but maybe I got more
when talking about the lore.
Let's open up the door and see what's at the Freddie store.
Okay.
Oh.
So at the,
now I'm so caught up in what I just did.
I implore you.
John, please stop.
Stop me.
Somebody stop me.
Before my thoughts, wash ashore.
What are you talking about?
These parts are not cut up, John.
We need to remember.
The unexpected parts of the lore, you said, were things that were more effective.
Actually, well, no, I mean, what I'm saying is not even unexpected.
It was, it was that, I mean, the only thing I expected was like the Vanessa thing, which I don't think is part of the actual lore.
I doubt because to my recollection it's Afton has two kids
Mike and his brother
Yeah and then brother is the one who dies in 83
Yeah Mike plays this trick on it
Yeah and then it gets mangled up by Freddy
Yeah yeah so they really obviously change that
Right make them sympathetic and then and then yeah them killing
Afton and then there's a whole thing with like Afton William and I think they're guys like
it's not Hank
I think it's like Hank or Henry
some of the other guy who partnered up with
their partner yeah then they had like a puppet
and then after goes off it makes his animatronics
his robotics company and all that
my point being is that
most of the lore that like
for someone like me who doesn't
who would be like don't ask me
I'm yeah somebody I'm still like
no actually kind of
I was aware of most of what they explored
here yeah yeah if you have a friend
like I've got a
couple friends who were very dedicated and immersed in five nights and through them over the years
i have been exposed to a lot of this stuff and and so it was enough for for me to at least grip most of
what was happening yeah so none of it was like unexpected lore or surprising or something i haven't
heard before already so my my point with that is like in a way it could it could have also played
to my not i wouldn't i wouldn't tout myself as like one of those i'm not by no means a super fan or some
fan of like five nights at freddies to the point where it's going to naturally play on some
type of reverency or nostalgia for five nights at freddies the way how i'm hearing it's placating
to people out in the in the cinemas yeah when they're watching it and they're like freaking out
about references and things tied in and oh my god they brought they translated it from animation
game to you know i'm i'm thinking just in terms of like an actual movie that they that they made you know
And I think for as a movie that they made, I thought the trailers were way more exciting.
And when I talk about the placement of stuff, I have no issue with anything that they actually threw into the film.
I'm saying, like, I think it would have been more effective with just a rearranging of a puzzle.
Like, honestly, the first act before he gets the job and everything leading into when he gets the job, like, don't change the thing.
Like, that's all great.
That's all really great.
That was when I was like...
When you're just setting up Mike, it's solid.
Setting a mic, I like what they change with Mike's backstory.
I think that you've got to get a protagonist who you could care about.
And then what they did that I thought was great,
and it was the oddity that I really loved,
was when Abby is bonding with the animatronics
and is really getting along with them.
and it's like kind of whimsical
and a little peculiar
and a little bit of a fantasy now
and it's and it's like
it is an unexpected bonding
and this is not at all
what you sort of think of
when you think of five nights at Freddy's
and I thought that is where
I would have kind of placed that earlier
I'm talking about just a rearranging of scenes
you place that element
into the movie earlier
and then it's like maybe there is something
kind of cool here and then they're
and then they're actually bonding with each other
because there's this whole thing about custody battle
and where should they go.
And like, no, I could be a dad.
Look, she even likes my job.
And then the break-in happens.
Yes.
Break-in happens.
And she's there, you know, or something like that.
Who?
Or, well, they break in with their both away.
No, no, I'm not saying, like,
I'm literally not saying change anything other than the placement of it.
They break in.
And then when they break in, that's when you see them do something horrific.
Yeah, that's when you see them do something horrible.
And you start to wonder about.
it and then you could have your dreams stuff like slowly being interrelated and then the kids come in later
and this movie had this weird thing where they were like leaning so heavily into the supernatural ghost
elements first and foremost at the forefront and they did no real like mystery shrouding with the
animatronics like it seemed it got to the point where they just sort of dropped that kind of early on
yeah they just put them like front and center so some of the placement i thought
You would have achieved, I think, a lot more of the tonally effective stuff that I personally, subjectively, was craving if they just rearranged some stuff.
It's kind of like if you're talking about Mithrigan for, right?
I don't know why that's the one that just keeps coming to mind because I think that having that scene with Abby Bonning with them made me go, well, that's what Mithrigan did right, was making you have the wonder with it and the bond.
But imagine if Mithrigan were just like, she's evil right away.
And then they tried doing that.
Then you'd be like, this is stupid.
And I think here.
And then, yeah, because there was like responses that just felt like not real human responses to things that I thought were a little strange.
No one seemed that rattled by the fact that there are a bunch of, yeah, living animatronics, just kicking it and doing whimsical stuff.
Yeah.
The guy gives them the ride still.
I mean, you could pass that, I was like, maybe he thinks it's a costume, but it's just so strange that you're like, we should have some other greater acknowledgement of this, yeah.
Because even the scenes themselves, I don't think are, like, when I'm looking at, okay, what do we need in this scene?
If I'm, like, looking at an index card of like, what do we need in this scene?
I'm like, okay, yeah, that's fine.
So maybe some dialogue changes, sure.
Like, I think the dialogue definitely could have used to punch you up for some rework.
sure a little more flavor and I'm trying to say that like the actual integrity and the castle on which they are built the house on which they are building this is actually all fine it's really everything they need yeah yeah like when I say and sometimes it's just a phrase when I'm saying no actually it's literally just I think this would have been way more effective if you just rearranged the way you unveil your story yeah totally because then you might be able to
just ring some different tones and more disconcerting energy out of all this stuff
and you could also maybe generate some suspense and some actual payoffs because the other thing
is the way the events are presented in this order it does kind of I think you said at one point
it seems like this movie feels like it's trying to sell you a mystery but like the way it's
actually presenting the information isn't that mysterious and doesn't really lead you to
having too many burning questions you can't already assume the answers
too, even I think if you don't know
the story. I mean, they
really establish the whole dreams
thing and, you know,
the five kids from early on
and they each have little totems that you can pick
up on as to, you know, their counterparts
as the animatronics and stuff.
And I think actually Megan is not
that bad of a touchstone because
if you look at what that movie is, it's
a, you know, younger
person thrust in the position of being a single
parent to a kid that they're emotionally distant
from and now we have animatronics filling the gap there but oh no something is wrong with that
and with that one you just have you know an AI whereas this you actually have ghosty shit so like
it it does feel like this is perfectly within blumhouse's wheelhouse and it does feel like the
kind of drama they tend to present it is like accessible it's not crazy specific or unique
but i think through the acting but it's not scary it's
not and it's not
suspenseful really
and it's it's eerie
in moments
yes it's not atmospheric or any
there's nothing really
about like
here's the thing is what I'm saying
is nothing about this really made
me go
how would I put it
sometimes you watch a thing where like the fan base
loves it because the fan base loves it prior
and then they're going to watch this and then they're going to eat it up
because it finally it's being brought to life
yeah this did not really do something for me that made me want to go and explore the the lore even more
yeah i did not mean to do a triple rhyme but do you know but do you know what i mean yeah this
this doesn't yeah present you with some kind of deeper well of mystery you feel like you just
scratched the surface of this presents you with something that in its again current form and
iteration seems pretty easy to kind of solve and figure out and nothing really
it's weird there is like a flatness about it and it's like i thought it was pretty slick i liked
most all of like the shot composition and even the the editing and stuff i thought was generally
fine and the performances are pretty good i think josherson is other than a couple of weird
direction choices with how to react to a couple of things uh in certain moments i think for the
most part he gives a really great performance i think he's a great a great actor in this and i think
Matthew Lillard is also
Oh, so much fun. I think he's excellent.
Yeah. I think the performance
is a really solid, of them too.
Yeah, and it's, I guess that's
the most damning thing about this movie is there's
so many good pieces and everything here,
even the stuff that is kind of boilerplate
or familiar, the stuff that is
less about the specifics of the game,
Lauren, more about like, it's a movie, so we got
to, you know, give you these emotional
eyelines and stuff. Like,
there's something in that
where, yeah, it never really
rises to anything and everything, yeah, just kind of starts to feel like it's on one plateau
the entire time. So it's kind of, it's like a pleasant experience, and it's occasionally
strange, but it's, yeah, I don't know. There's no pulse to it. Yeah, and it's,
lacks life. And I can't find what the origin of that is, because I guess you'd go the direction.
And I thought, like, in isolation, there were a lot of fine directing choice. Like, I don't know
what else this director has done and part of me was wondering like oh yeah is this the kind of person who
who has directed more i don't know thoughtful horror or or just independent dramas or something
because yeah at one point again you you seemed you pointed out the uh vibe that like oh
these parts in the forest where we're dealing with the actual familial trauma is seemingly what
the movie is most interested in and is most invigorated by when it's presenting you know
its energy and execution um it's it's it's a strange one to look at because there are so many things
that are like pretty good to find about it and yet it it just it doesn't like yeah i don't know
it packs a really light punch nor does it build up and it's like i don't think it's weird like it was
predictable and the plot the plot turns and the mystery and bailings were really predictable and
obvious and uh yet other than the venison thing uh sure
Just because I didn't know what the fuck they were doing with her performance.
I like I didn't I like that was such an odd.
She's involved somehow.
It was so oddly done the way, you know, and it was it was more like just tell me what's going on more than what is happening with her like, it got just reached a point of like just you're, you're actually frustrating.
So just tell me that's that was the effect that I had with her.
Yeah.
Because I hate women.
Yes.
Especially women in positions of power.
Yeah.
well and two I guess there's the other thing that I guess should be addressed because I don't know how I'm sure really quick I think we should interlace it with something more positive so we somewhat balances sure sure even though we're not going to do ourselves any favors with it you know it just sounds like we're mocking it with the way I'm introducing well I mean it is the animatronics I think they've really brought it to life I think aesthetically they really brought they really brought they've
really brought Freddy's to life.
Aesthetically, they didn't, they nailed it.
They did.
Mood-wise, not really, but...
Well, and there is a thing...
Again, I didn't hate this movie. I'm not trying to bash on it.
I don't hate that. I enjoyed watching it.
Yeah, it's like a very
tepid, positive response for me.
But I will say, like,
having... I was playing the game again last night.
No worry?
Yeah. Yeah, I got the five-pack for Switch.
So I was just, like, kind of, you know, just...
Oh, do you? Yeah.
Oh, cool.
So just getting in the mood, and I think as good as the animatronics look and as faithfully as they are rendered here, they are scarier looking in the digital realm, whereas here they actually kind of have the opposite effect.
I'm like, well, they're kind of endearing.
They're kind of cute.
That's why the placement of the scenes.
And if you put that stuff earlier, that could work.
That it works.
And they draw you in.
Yeah.
And then you get it and you get Abby's perspective.
Yeah, yeah, and then Mike actually can see a good, like learning about, like, yeah, I wanted a little bit more. I think they could have done a little bit more for their relationship as characters. I mean, that's something I would have changed in the writing too. Because, yeah, like most of what you get with Josh Hutcherson is this one core memory, this one trauma. And yes, I only, I'm so wrapped up in my lost younger brother that I feel responsible for them. I'm completely neglecting my actual presence sister. Like, you know, you could, you could have played more with that. But the drama there. Yeah. Yeah.
And I guess what I wonder, because early on I was thinking to myself, okay, we've seen, especially Willie's Wonderland, I haven't seen Banana Splits, but there are other movies that do this.
And I know Willie's Wonderland had to have had them kind of up in arms in the office, I would imagine, going like, well, how do we make it different from this?
And early on, I was thinking like, okay, cool, you take it, yeah, really lean into the supernatural, make it more like a Blumhouse ghost type of movie in some respect.
and there you have an opportunity to not have to do the high-octane action disturbing.
But like that movie for its rough edges and B-movie qualities does have an intensity
and does have like a bigger scare factor coming off of the animatronics.
And it's funny because I don't think that these two couldn't coexist.
And I think it really, I think you've ultimately kind of uncovered the main thesis of what's not working here.
And I wonder why they positioned the events that they, the way that they, the way that they,
did because even in times when I was flashing
back to Willys watching this
they would take it in a different
direction where it's like oh yeah the animatronics
are just coming out cool subversion
we're just seeing them we're putting them on
screen we're not doing the
requisite suspense buildup
that we all would be
sitting there going we know these are evil and blah
blah but there's also kind of
there doesn't seem to be a whole lot underneath
the subversions no that they put
here there's nothing they're just kind of in the
immediate moment sort of disconcerting
And then you're like, oh, okay, well, well, this is odd.
I just, I guess I didn't feel an enthusiasm behind the camera for this one.
I really didn't.
I felt like, it felt kind of like when Marvel hires an independent director to do one of their movies.
And this was sort of the, and like, and that's not what I associate Blumhouse with.
No.
I feel like Blumhouse, sometimes their failures come in the form of, they didn't do anything to reign this person.
you know like that or i mean you'll get your ones that are at least purportedly like super boilerplate
like yeah yeah truth or dare fantasy island but this this doesn't i didn't get the impression um damn
that is uh oh a woman directed this movie cool no wonder we we're not feeling strong about it's our sexism
john that's right our sexism for this movie is still starring a dude is it a person of color so we could
come across racist on top of that too
oh I don't know I don't know
doesn't look that way unless she's white
passing who knows thank God okay we're just
so she did a blem house sex is not
racist thank God if you got to be
one you know it's a lot more
understandable yeah on the internet
she did an episode of
sexes but you're being racist
it's hard to get away with that sexism is a cornerstone
of the internet community okay
oh yeah no men
invented the internet
of all races but they were men
Women sometimes try to do revisionist's a three-year, but no, man invented it.
So, okay, she's done a Blumhouse Into the Dark special, and then some other things that I'm not as familiar with.
I'm going to guess, like this looks like, you know, it looks like she's got at least a bit more docu and dramatic background.
Some horror as well.
This is not the first horror thing she's done, but I feel like this may.
I don't know.
I thought there was a confidence behind the camera.
Oh, this is a movie about the Dust Bowl?
I guess so.
A Plainswoman faces the harshness and isolation of the untamed land in western frontier.
Oh, it's cool.
I've always wanted to see like a horror movie and the turn in the Dust Bowl.
Well, dude, watch the wind.
I mean, it might be, I would be curious to see this director's other movies because when I saw her name pop up at the front, I was like, oh, I don't know this person, but this seems like a neat choice.
And this is one of those things where we live in a time where there are more women getting directing gigs, but they, I think, often are for, like, women's pictures.
Do we got to name some women directors we like to balance the scales.
Okay.
Jennifer Kent is amazing.
The invitation is one of my all-time favorite psychological horror movies, which is not Jennifer Kent.
It's not Karen Kuselma.
The invitation?
Yeah.
Is Karin Kusama?
Yeah.
Oh, wait, no.
Who's the one who's made Seven Samurai
and all the great films?
Tashir of a food.
Or no, uh, Kira Kurosawa.
Yeah, my favorite woman director.
Yeah, Kira Kurosawa.
Okay, so it was Karen Kuzawa.
Yeah, Emerald Finnell.
There you go.
Or, uh, Catherine, I mean, Catherine Bigelow is a titan.
Oh my gosh.
We're not sexist. Thank God.
Nia da Costa loved her remake of Candyman.
Sure. Looking forward to the Marvels as well.
You know, like this is...
American Psycho is directed by...
Mary Hair.
Yeah, good call.
Ooh, Tamara Davis.
All right, Gilbert, not sexist.
We've proven our point.
I feel like I would be interested in.
See, like, I want to know what led to this person directing this movie, not in any way that I think it was a bad choice, because I feel like so much of what was happening in the construction of the movie and behind the camera was assured and had some flair and some, you know, um,
and yet just the presentation of the story like I don't know this is such a huge property with merchandising and you know a game legacy and it's taken on this whole huge life and part of me is like I could see this very much being a movie that the producers are like very involved with and modulating and tweaking along the way I could see how this might not be in voice you know a good calling card for a director versus just in construction
or something like that yeah so I'm watching we're watching the wind trailer right now
without any audio on and this to me does seem like more of like this looks like a distinct
vision calculated perspective this is just from the trailer I'm getting and definitely more
the person who would make the dream sequences it would be the person you get to do your
your animatronic
movie. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to be that guy.
I like, I like Blumhouse.
Fans of the Bobbadook and the witch are likely
to fault like that. I couldn't help
but think that if this had been
A-24's Five Nights at Freddy's,
this would be this director's movie.
Yeah. And I feel like this director
was a solid, a quality choice
for a movie like this,
perhaps. Are you still bitter towards Blumhouse?
No, I like Blumhouse. Like, I feel
like in general. John used to work at Blumhouse.
Well, yeah. And I mean,
We won't get into why I don't anymore.
But, no, I've been a Blumhouse fan for a long time.
I like a lot of their stuff.
I often gravitate toward, I know they have their fair share of misses, but generally I see the Blumhouse and I'm like, yeah, let's do this.
Like, I anticipate a Blumhouse, maybe not 100% as much as an 824, but I like them both, you know?
They get a lot of flack for some reason.
They've produced, like, a lot of hits for the amount of flack they get.
yeah, people go as a
fucking plus house thing.
I'm like, well, that often can be good, you know.
I think, too, I tend to, I've been interrupting you an awful lot today.
I'm sorry.
I tend to get a lot of flack.
I tend to like a lot of their films that even get a lot of flack is what I'm trying to say.
Well, yeah, because I think there is...
You know what I mean, John?
What's my opinion?
No, I think that I would agree because, like, there are, yeah,
some are more inspired than others, but a fairer.
amount of the more like mid-tier Blumhouse joints or ones where I'm like, yeah, this could be
more unique, but for what it is, it's perfectly serviceable. And when they are going for that
mid-range of the audience sort of blockbuster thing with some of their horror movies, I'm
here for it. You know, I'm often here for it. And I'm absolutely willing to give them the
benefit of the doubt. And this marriage seemed like one that makes a lot of sense pop culturally
and where Blumhouse is aimed
in terms of their overall demographic.
You know, I think they skew younger
than maybe like an A-24 does.
But I don't know.
Yeah, this felt like it maybe got lost
in a no man's land of like,
what audience are we supposed to be for?
Because some people really want this to be
an R-rated movie,
and it could easily be that.
And some of that stuff with the, you know,
the mask and the whirring gears
just like a saw movie or something.
And yet I feel like they made a horror movie,
movie kind of for almost nobody
except for like the youngest people who like
this game. I don't think you needed the
I none of it being
R-rated as like I
have no issue
with that at all honestly like I think
I think just the
context alone is
you could do in a PG-13 movie
it is unsettling and creepy
murdering children transferring their souls
and controlling them after their
death like that that alone
with the imagination and the
context is are rated enough and it's vibe you know the same way the games are rated teen but
they have a very mature level twisted lore yeah and that that's all you need so like even like
the way they had that one person who was like let me look at this pretty mouth that that like
the way that death went down and then and if the movie leaned a little bit more into like the way how
the games would do a bit of the pov of of mystery and a little bit of shrouded or obscurity or
like turning the lights off frequently yeah like if they if they lean a little bit more into that
when it comes to the violence then you can even get away with stuff that might seem more violent
than it actually is so there I I had no qualms at all with it being PG-13 and even experiencing
this I was like nah there's nothing really here to happen I was like there should have been
R-rated um and we already have that movie you know well I mean the thing about five nights of
phrase it like when people compare to willie's wonderland is that five nights of freddies it is exceptionally really into the like when you really dive into it is so much about its history and the ghosts and all and and like the transferance of souls and and all that stuff whereas willies wonderland is a little bit more direct about like what it's advertised as and here i think this movie um kind of seemed a little disinterested some of the actual for initial appeal and then went full supernatural ghost
movie and then would
like remind you about animatronics
stuff to the point where it becomes
a bit confusing
when you're like this place evil or is this
not quite evil. It was especially
became confused and that's what I mean like
it needed some wonder
it did it lacked wonder
and I think when it got confusing
when it was like they spent
so much time with
the ghosts of the kids
that I think they should have dialed some of
that back
I'm not talking about the dreams
If you kept them just like that in the dream world
Totally cool
But I'm talking about it in the actual physical world
When you would see them as ghosts
Yeah make it less clear
That that that's exactly what is going
Yeah
Yeah
And and to the point where I was like
Why do they just like
Like typical atomatronics at times
Yeah if they're living in these things
And they can kind of do as they please
Kind of always
Yeah
I get it when there's somebody inside or whatever
And they're doing their thing
but, like, the rest of the time, I feel like things could be very different for them.
And what are they doing, you know, in these long stretches where, like, nobody's there, you know?
Yeah, and if they can go into these dream worlds and stuff, why don't they just hang out there all the time?
Because why the fuck would you want to hang out in this goddamn boring-ass pizzeria, this animatronic body?
And I think they could have, I think they needed something bold for this.
And I feel like they, I expected something out of the whole dream thing beyond that.
I mean, I like the concept of like, oh, yeah.
your body remembers everything you've ever experienced.
And so somewhere buried in there is the memory that you're looking for.
However, I feel like you could have, and he's taking the medicine and he's sleep deprived already,
like you could have done some reality warping or something like that to really disconcert us
and to throw us off.
And to, yeah, get us questioning like, okay, am I just conflating these kids with these animatronics or something
because, you know, the power of suggesting your brains crashing things together?
Like, there's so many opportunities for disconcertion and confusion that they didn't really seem to interest in taking.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, movies a bit repetitive with the dream stuff.
Like, the dream stuff was like, I get the whole point is he's repeating this.
But I really, you get your nights built in.
But, uh, yeah, yeah, but at the same time, I was like, those game fans.
Does just get to a boom where it feels repetitive.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
And, yeah, you just need some other element of flavor.
Like, if we did it, like, three times.
And then you get a little further into the memory each time.
And then suddenly the kids show up.
That's what I mean.
Instead of introducing that so early.
And then the kids show up, you're like, whoa, what is this?
You know?
Well, yeah, because it's interesting at first when you're seeing the dream and it's different a little bit each time.
But then once he starts meeting the kids, that kind of goes away.
And then he adjusts to it in such a casual manner.
That's what I meant by the ghost thing.
He's just like, you're the kids who died, right?
He goes, I don't know.
How does this happen?
but I have a little goal here
He should have had like a moment of like
Wait, who the hell are you guys
I would doubt my sanity if I was in this character's position
With the obsession that I have and then seeing these kids
And then being like wait a minute
Animatronics and waking I'm taking these drugs
Like part of me it was thinking like
Okay like maybe someone's gonna be like
Oh it's these drugs man you're seeing things
Oh no wait it's not
Yeah or if he was wondering is this one of the things I didn't remember
Are these kids being here?
Am I involved with this?
Yeah.
Instead, he kind of just takes his face value.
It's like, who are you entering my shit?
You know?
Yeah.
And that was, that's what I mean.
It feels like they wanted to reduce peril.
And yes, that is the problem with it.
It's like they got the information across.
And like I said, I'm talking about like little tweaks.
I'm not saying big, big, like these little things make major differences.
Yes.
But I'm not saying do a major difference.
on any of this stuff.
I'm like,
you know,
just add a tap
more emphasis here,
a little bit more
a reaction here,
change the placement up,
and you got the pretty much
this,
just a re-edited movie.
Yeah,
and people get finicky
about kids in peril,
but I feel like
this actress seemed
certainly capable enough.
I think you could have,
again,
for who,
yeah,
it's a PG-13 movie.
I think you could have
presented her more
situations of peril
or something.
thing especially when things start to turn sour because some stakes of the deaths yeah because it
even when they're killing you just know that the four of the people the guys who break in you know
the other family members who are trying to you know mess with him and and you know get him fired you know
what's going to happen to them and the movie seems to know that you know that and and yeah there's
there's no real sense of danger despite how twisted and grim all of this is it's weird it's like
somebody telling you a really harsh story but with like not a lot of vocal intonation yeah
well let's rate it john let's rate it a call it a day i rated a six point seven fair enough
damn that's high i'll give it like a six um i think that uh i like the production design a lot
i think one thing i wasn't expecting was to be like didn't expect to like josherson's character
as much as I did.
And it's really elevated by his performance.
Matthew Liller, I wish he was in here more,
really enjoyed him a lot.
He was great. I think while the animatronics
could have been captured
with a little bit more mood
and a little bit better buildup,
I love how they brought them a life.
Yeah.
There was some great sound design in here.
And all in all, you know,
like I think the movie could have felt
exceptionally more convoluted.
than it actually is
you know like that that is one aspect to this
that I think it could have been so bogged down
with just nonstop exposition
and they managed to not get overly carried away
I would say yeah with it you know
I was like people the people have made the the history
and the backstory and while I know they changed some stuff
sound like an intimidating prospect
to land into like oh you're you're opening up like a whole later you're going to have to at least
watch like a three hour video to get part one to understand the five nights of friday and then so i thought
this might be a situation like that when i was hearing something like i didn't i didn't feel that at all like
i think they managed to make it digestible so i there's there's lots appreciate but at the same time
i do think that there's a a lack of mood a lack of atmosphere a lack of tension it's not scary i don't
It's not...
It feels like a weird
Twilight Zone episode.
It's not fun and fun.
It's like intermittently fun.
Like there's a moment that can be fun.
And I mean like a moment and then not even really a whole scene.
Yeah.
It's there was nothing unnerving about it.
Like I don't really know what genre this is.
It's kind of a, it nor does it feel like an interesting splice of genre.
to me. There's a lot of things about it that I don't really, I didn't, I found myself becoming
more disinterested as it went along and then there'd be like, oh, it's a little thing happening
that was interesting. And then it would go right back to, well, they, two steps forward.
It would be like one step forward, two steps back is how the experience kept going for me.
Yeah. And so, yeah, at the end of the day, I have to be honest with myself and be like,
I know that there's a lot of.
massive fans when it comes to this, but I would give it, like, just a six out of ten.
Well, yeah.
And a lot of that six is mainly for, like, the effort.
For everything that they get right, barring the actual, like, emotional experience of watching it.
Because, yeah, like, in closing, I guess, like, if it's absolutely fair to compare these to the games.
And I think the games, what is charming about them is you have this crazy-ass lore.
But the immediate moment of playing it is all just about the suspense and the, you know, kind of butterfell.
fly tension of like oh god
who's lurking and when are they going to pop out of me
there's not even jump scares really in this
movie and looking at this
this has three story by credits
and three writer credits one of each
is Scott Cothin and the director
also has a writing credit I almost feel
like this got sanded
down in drafts and
became what it is so so yeah
not a great adaptation
of Five Nights at Freddy's but like also
not terrible just
just fine I'm almost I'm tempted to
give it a flat 50%,
like a five out of ten.
I'm more there, but I'm more there for effort
because I can understand
like the part of it is that
like putting a, I think
at the end you should just judge a movie based on whatever
the final product is. Yeah. Absolutely.
I'm going to judge it based off the treatment.
I do have, I do have, no, I'm saying that like
yeah, having some understanding of the lore
and then seeing some things they had to change
and then having to adapt something like this is no
easy no eaves that's a that's not difficult obstacle for something like this it really is and i could
see it's easier for us to be in this position and look at what we're what we just watched and here's
what we would have changed but maybe some of those changes were happening as they were making it
when they were realizing well this isn't working this isn't working so maybe this was indeed the
best thing they could do with the time because you have to deal with scheduling you got to deal with
production you got to deal with a whole but like there's a whole lot of things that I can imagine we're working against it that maybe this was the best they they thought they could do as they were trying to change it to thinking about some stuff um but no I mean overall as a as a final product like literally the six is for effort but if it on just an emotional thing I have no real strong emotions about what this movie did for me so I I am emotionally like a five yeah just like
lukewarm tepid yeah it's yeah i'm actually i would say i'm disappointed by that like i have no
i have no real strong feeling and this is this is something that we're you your main job was just
to make something fun and exciting yeah i feel like this is the kind of movie where you can
if you get a couple things right you can skate by a lot of other things and this is the weird
experience where it gets like a lot of things technically well crafted and yet
misses the
like even one
greater element of whatever suspense
fun etc. could have made
this you know the fun
you wanted it to be yeah whereas here
yeah you're left with like god there's so much
good work and this all could have worked really
well however
you know yeah yeah yeah at the end
of the day a little disappointed
with it at the same time
I'm like my mind's also going
it could have been a lot worse
could have been affordable yeah it's weird
And it doesn't, yeah, it's such a funky movie
because it doesn't feel, I don't even feel like angry about this.
No, it's just kind of like, ah, this could have been more.
I am so, it's very resolute.
It has left me in a resigned, apathetic mood.
I'm just like, whatever, I don't really give a shit.
That's where I'm at.
Okay, what's next?
Yeah.
You know, yeah, I don't know.
It doesn't leave you with much to chew on.
I don't think I'll be ruminating on these experience.
And then somehow we talk for like 45 minutes.
I know. Well, sometimes it's this kind of movie.
We're like, what is it?
What is it about this that doesn't work?
Somehow we have landed into the longest discussion we've had in a very long time.
Yes.
And there's only two of us.
It's okay.
This is an important cultural moment.
It is fascinating.
We'll have a tight 10 when we watch The Exorcist to Believe in.
All right, guys.
Well, what did you think about this movie?
Did you love it as a film?
What did it do for you?
Leave your thoughts down below.
And, hey, we'll talk with you all soon.
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