The Reel Rejects - FIVE NIGHTS AT FREDDY'S MOVIE REVIEW! FNAF Movie 2023 | Post-Credits Scene | Spoiler Review

Episode Date: October 28, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Listeners of the Reject Nation, it is a momentous occasion. We are here to discuss the five nights at Freddy's movie. It's finally here, 2023 FNAF, on the big and small screen from Blumhouse and Universal Pictures. Very excited to talk about this. These are our fresh, immediate thoughts after a first time viewing. If you want to check out the highlights from that, as always, those are available at YouTube.com slash the Rio Rejects. or if you want to sync up with us and enjoy the full-length experience, you can go over to patreon.com slash the real rejects.
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Starting point is 00:01:03 America's ass, go check it out along with Who Influences the Influencers, Child Protection Services, all the greats and classics. You know what I'm talking about anyway. What we're talking about today is Five Nights at Freddy's. Let's just jump into it, people. Here we go. Game over.
Starting point is 00:01:27 what an interesting movie oh oh i think this is a yoav song yeah living tombstone shouts out yeah this is huge for them damn that's awesome first thing on the credits not bad there's got to be a postcard oh no oh no my dude not today sorry do you live in this car it's poor man i said read the so boom boy yeah that was pretty good balloon boy's coming to play okay guys if you are listening to this on apple and spotify we just watched five nights at freddies literally just finished watching it and we're going to talk about it right now most deaf and i got to say like one thing that i was loving when looking at this is how what a great merch advertisement yes you know what i mean most definitely and then i thought about like
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Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah For them to be like No I saw someone wearing the shirt And I wanted to buy it So I went to the store I really wanted to know Who influences the influencers You know
Starting point is 00:03:42 I didn't even know Reject Nation shop With something tied to some YouTube channel I've just always felt like a reject In the nation that I live in So I bought a bunch of real rejects shirts specifically But I didn't realize there was a channel.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I don't know why they spelled the real world wrong. I hate reaction videos. I don't like movies, really. Can I return this? But I really am rejected by most people I meet. All right. Well, John, what do you think? I thought this was a strange and interesting experience.
Starting point is 00:04:14 You'd be nice, man. There's a rabid fan base out there. They will tear you limb from limb closer to that. The games are like. They want them to move of you into some kind of gearbox. Yeah. I mean, you got to kind of respect it a little bit. Like in the sense of that I understand fandoms can be very sensitive.
Starting point is 00:04:33 They've been wanting this for a very long time. Oh, yeah. A clamor at the bit for it. And I understand that, you know, they're probably ones to eat this all up way more. Yeah. And so, yeah, what is your take on it? Factoring that in? No, totally.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I mean, this definitely also be extremely on. Sugarcoach, your extreme honesty. Your authenticity. I thought this was a very fun movie experience. It's not what I expected. It's definitely a strange movie. However, I can't pretend like I wasn't giddy and enjoying seeing the characters come to life, spending time inside of Freddy's,
Starting point is 00:05:17 and just thinking of the promise that this property has, you know, beyond just one movie. Yeah, this is in some ways like the Blumhouse take on Five Nights at Freddy's that you might expect. The execution is like kind of peculiar and curious to me. And I'm, you know, kind of, I'm excited to kind of bat it back and forth with you right now. But as it stands, I'm not 100% like, that's exactly the experience I was hoping for. But at the same time, it was always intriguing. no matter what and sometimes
Starting point is 00:05:53 it was being effectively creepy and and you know nodding to the games in ways that were obviously very fun and in other ways I was scratching my head a little bit as to like what the true intent was and what was maybe more twisted
Starting point is 00:06:10 before like I think the thing is I think this movie is in kind of a strange position because I think it has to play towards a very wide age range these games are rated teen it has a very dark grim twisted lore that lends itself to an r-rated experience so i think this movie's impact kind of gets muddled in between all that um but i had a good time regardless i don't think this movie needs to be made mithrigan no i think it's i think in terms of an actual movie
Starting point is 00:06:50 It's not a great comparison. I do think, though, that Mithrigan is a PG-13 Blumhouse film. Yes, it did. That did it exceptionally well. And it didn't feel to PG-13, you know, it works that way. Like, when I was watching this, sometimes, you know, you might watch something, you go, you start rewriting it in your head, and you're thinking about what you would have done differently. And I don't, when I was, when I say that, I'm not even thinking to myself, what would I do to,
Starting point is 00:07:19 to rewrite it in terms of here's what I would change about this character here's what I would change about this character that's not that I would I really I'm like I would just kind of rearrange the placement and unveiling of how a lot of it was done so it could actually be effective because for the most part
Starting point is 00:07:36 I didn't really feel much tension I didn't really find it exciting I didn't really find it's suspenseful and it was kind of like intermittent yeah it wasn't that funny not that I was like
Starting point is 00:07:50 walking and expecting to laugh I just I do feel that like it nor is it nor do I have strong feelings about anything that is egregiously bad you know like that yeah it's neither especially good nor bad I found it
Starting point is 00:08:06 to be very very mid to a high low with with an occasional like honestly like the parts
Starting point is 00:08:19 that I thought saying the most were a little bit more of the oddities that were not advertised like some of the dream moments perhaps. I mean, I can imagine how to feel a little bit. You know, and it was strange to me is like for the most part, the lore that they explored did not mean to rhyme,
Starting point is 00:08:37 but maybe I got more when talking about the lore. Let's open up the door and see what's at the Freddie store. Okay. Oh. So at the, now I'm so caught up in what I just did. I implore you.
Starting point is 00:08:51 John, please stop. Stop me. Somebody stop me. Before my thoughts, wash ashore. What are you talking about? These parts are not cut up, John. We need to remember. The unexpected parts of the lore, you said, were things that were more effective.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Actually, well, no, I mean, what I'm saying is not even unexpected. It was, it was that, I mean, the only thing I expected was like the Vanessa thing, which I don't think is part of the actual lore. I doubt because to my recollection it's Afton has two kids Mike and his brother Yeah and then brother is the one who dies in 83 Yeah Mike plays this trick on it Yeah and then it gets mangled up by Freddy Yeah yeah so they really obviously change that
Starting point is 00:09:38 Right make them sympathetic and then and then yeah them killing Afton and then there's a whole thing with like Afton William and I think they're guys like it's not Hank I think it's like Hank or Henry some of the other guy who partnered up with their partner yeah then they had like a puppet and then after goes off it makes his animatronics his robotics company and all that
Starting point is 00:09:59 my point being is that most of the lore that like for someone like me who doesn't who would be like don't ask me I'm yeah somebody I'm still like no actually kind of I was aware of most of what they explored here yeah yeah if you have a friend
Starting point is 00:10:16 like I've got a couple friends who were very dedicated and immersed in five nights and through them over the years i have been exposed to a lot of this stuff and and so it was enough for for me to at least grip most of what was happening yeah so none of it was like unexpected lore or surprising or something i haven't heard before already so my my point with that is like in a way it could it could have also played to my not i wouldn't i wouldn't tout myself as like one of those i'm not by no means a super fan or some fan of like five nights at freddies to the point where it's going to naturally play on some type of reverency or nostalgia for five nights at freddies the way how i'm hearing it's placating
Starting point is 00:10:56 to people out in the in the cinemas yeah when they're watching it and they're like freaking out about references and things tied in and oh my god they brought they translated it from animation game to you know i'm i'm thinking just in terms of like an actual movie that they that they made you know And I think for as a movie that they made, I thought the trailers were way more exciting. And when I talk about the placement of stuff, I have no issue with anything that they actually threw into the film. I'm saying, like, I think it would have been more effective with just a rearranging of a puzzle. Like, honestly, the first act before he gets the job and everything leading into when he gets the job, like, don't change the thing. Like, that's all great.
Starting point is 00:11:42 That's all really great. That was when I was like... When you're just setting up Mike, it's solid. Setting a mic, I like what they change with Mike's backstory. I think that you've got to get a protagonist who you could care about. And then what they did that I thought was great, and it was the oddity that I really loved, was when Abby is bonding with the animatronics
Starting point is 00:12:08 and is really getting along with them. and it's like kind of whimsical and a little peculiar and a little bit of a fantasy now and it's and it's like it is an unexpected bonding and this is not at all what you sort of think of
Starting point is 00:12:22 when you think of five nights at Freddy's and I thought that is where I would have kind of placed that earlier I'm talking about just a rearranging of scenes you place that element into the movie earlier and then it's like maybe there is something kind of cool here and then they're
Starting point is 00:12:37 and then they're actually bonding with each other because there's this whole thing about custody battle and where should they go. And like, no, I could be a dad. Look, she even likes my job. And then the break-in happens. Yes. Break-in happens.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And she's there, you know, or something like that. Who? Or, well, they break in with their both away. No, no, I'm not saying, like, I'm literally not saying change anything other than the placement of it. They break in. And then when they break in, that's when you see them do something horrific. Yeah, that's when you see them do something horrible.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And you start to wonder about. it and then you could have your dreams stuff like slowly being interrelated and then the kids come in later and this movie had this weird thing where they were like leaning so heavily into the supernatural ghost elements first and foremost at the forefront and they did no real like mystery shrouding with the animatronics like it seemed it got to the point where they just sort of dropped that kind of early on yeah they just put them like front and center so some of the placement i thought You would have achieved, I think, a lot more of the tonally effective stuff that I personally, subjectively, was craving if they just rearranged some stuff. It's kind of like if you're talking about Mithrigan for, right?
Starting point is 00:13:57 I don't know why that's the one that just keeps coming to mind because I think that having that scene with Abby Bonning with them made me go, well, that's what Mithrigan did right, was making you have the wonder with it and the bond. But imagine if Mithrigan were just like, she's evil right away. And then they tried doing that. Then you'd be like, this is stupid. And I think here. And then, yeah, because there was like responses that just felt like not real human responses to things that I thought were a little strange. No one seemed that rattled by the fact that there are a bunch of, yeah, living animatronics, just kicking it and doing whimsical stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:34 The guy gives them the ride still. I mean, you could pass that, I was like, maybe he thinks it's a costume, but it's just so strange that you're like, we should have some other greater acknowledgement of this, yeah. Because even the scenes themselves, I don't think are, like, when I'm looking at, okay, what do we need in this scene? If I'm, like, looking at an index card of like, what do we need in this scene? I'm like, okay, yeah, that's fine. So maybe some dialogue changes, sure. Like, I think the dialogue definitely could have used to punch you up for some rework. sure a little more flavor and I'm trying to say that like the actual integrity and the castle on which they are built the house on which they are building this is actually all fine it's really everything they need yeah yeah like when I say and sometimes it's just a phrase when I'm saying no actually it's literally just I think this would have been way more effective if you just rearranged the way you unveil your story yeah totally because then you might be able to
Starting point is 00:15:36 just ring some different tones and more disconcerting energy out of all this stuff and you could also maybe generate some suspense and some actual payoffs because the other thing is the way the events are presented in this order it does kind of I think you said at one point it seems like this movie feels like it's trying to sell you a mystery but like the way it's actually presenting the information isn't that mysterious and doesn't really lead you to having too many burning questions you can't already assume the answers too, even I think if you don't know the story. I mean, they
Starting point is 00:16:10 really establish the whole dreams thing and, you know, the five kids from early on and they each have little totems that you can pick up on as to, you know, their counterparts as the animatronics and stuff. And I think actually Megan is not that bad of a touchstone because
Starting point is 00:16:25 if you look at what that movie is, it's a, you know, younger person thrust in the position of being a single parent to a kid that they're emotionally distant from and now we have animatronics filling the gap there but oh no something is wrong with that and with that one you just have you know an AI whereas this you actually have ghosty shit so like it it does feel like this is perfectly within blumhouse's wheelhouse and it does feel like the kind of drama they tend to present it is like accessible it's not crazy specific or unique
Starting point is 00:17:01 but i think through the acting but it's not scary it's not and it's not suspenseful really and it's it's eerie in moments yes it's not atmospheric or any there's nothing really about like
Starting point is 00:17:19 here's the thing is what I'm saying is nothing about this really made me go how would I put it sometimes you watch a thing where like the fan base loves it because the fan base loves it prior and then they're going to watch this and then they're going to eat it up because it finally it's being brought to life
Starting point is 00:17:35 yeah this did not really do something for me that made me want to go and explore the the lore even more yeah i did not mean to do a triple rhyme but do you know but do you know what i mean yeah this this doesn't yeah present you with some kind of deeper well of mystery you feel like you just scratched the surface of this presents you with something that in its again current form and iteration seems pretty easy to kind of solve and figure out and nothing really it's weird there is like a flatness about it and it's like i thought it was pretty slick i liked most all of like the shot composition and even the the editing and stuff i thought was generally fine and the performances are pretty good i think josherson is other than a couple of weird
Starting point is 00:18:23 direction choices with how to react to a couple of things uh in certain moments i think for the most part he gives a really great performance i think he's a great a great actor in this and i think Matthew Lillard is also Oh, so much fun. I think he's excellent. Yeah. I think the performance is a really solid, of them too. Yeah, and it's, I guess that's the most damning thing about this movie is there's
Starting point is 00:18:46 so many good pieces and everything here, even the stuff that is kind of boilerplate or familiar, the stuff that is less about the specifics of the game, Lauren, more about like, it's a movie, so we got to, you know, give you these emotional eyelines and stuff. Like, there's something in that
Starting point is 00:19:02 where, yeah, it never really rises to anything and everything, yeah, just kind of starts to feel like it's on one plateau the entire time. So it's kind of, it's like a pleasant experience, and it's occasionally strange, but it's, yeah, I don't know. There's no pulse to it. Yeah, and it's, lacks life. And I can't find what the origin of that is, because I guess you'd go the direction. And I thought, like, in isolation, there were a lot of fine directing choice. Like, I don't know what else this director has done and part of me was wondering like oh yeah is this the kind of person who who has directed more i don't know thoughtful horror or or just independent dramas or something
Starting point is 00:19:44 because yeah at one point again you you seemed you pointed out the uh vibe that like oh these parts in the forest where we're dealing with the actual familial trauma is seemingly what the movie is most interested in and is most invigorated by when it's presenting you know its energy and execution um it's it's it's a strange one to look at because there are so many things that are like pretty good to find about it and yet it it just it doesn't like yeah i don't know it packs a really light punch nor does it build up and it's like i don't think it's weird like it was predictable and the plot the plot turns and the mystery and bailings were really predictable and obvious and uh yet other than the venison thing uh sure
Starting point is 00:20:31 Just because I didn't know what the fuck they were doing with her performance. I like I didn't I like that was such an odd. She's involved somehow. It was so oddly done the way, you know, and it was it was more like just tell me what's going on more than what is happening with her like, it got just reached a point of like just you're, you're actually frustrating. So just tell me that's that was the effect that I had with her. Yeah. Because I hate women. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Especially women in positions of power. Yeah. well and two I guess there's the other thing that I guess should be addressed because I don't know how I'm sure really quick I think we should interlace it with something more positive so we somewhat balances sure sure even though we're not going to do ourselves any favors with it you know it just sounds like we're mocking it with the way I'm introducing well I mean it is the animatronics I think they've really brought it to life I think aesthetically they really brought they really brought they've really brought Freddy's to life. Aesthetically, they didn't, they nailed it. They did. Mood-wise, not really, but... Well, and there is a thing...
Starting point is 00:21:40 Again, I didn't hate this movie. I'm not trying to bash on it. I don't hate that. I enjoyed watching it. Yeah, it's like a very tepid, positive response for me. But I will say, like, having... I was playing the game again last night. No worry? Yeah. Yeah, I got the five-pack for Switch.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So I was just, like, kind of, you know, just... Oh, do you? Yeah. Oh, cool. So just getting in the mood, and I think as good as the animatronics look and as faithfully as they are rendered here, they are scarier looking in the digital realm, whereas here they actually kind of have the opposite effect. I'm like, well, they're kind of endearing. They're kind of cute. That's why the placement of the scenes. And if you put that stuff earlier, that could work.
Starting point is 00:22:25 That it works. And they draw you in. Yeah. And then you get it and you get Abby's perspective. Yeah, yeah, and then Mike actually can see a good, like learning about, like, yeah, I wanted a little bit more. I think they could have done a little bit more for their relationship as characters. I mean, that's something I would have changed in the writing too. Because, yeah, like most of what you get with Josh Hutcherson is this one core memory, this one trauma. And yes, I only, I'm so wrapped up in my lost younger brother that I feel responsible for them. I'm completely neglecting my actual presence sister. Like, you know, you could, you could have played more with that. But the drama there. Yeah. Yeah. And I guess what I wonder, because early on I was thinking to myself, okay, we've seen, especially Willie's Wonderland, I haven't seen Banana Splits, but there are other movies that do this. And I know Willie's Wonderland had to have had them kind of up in arms in the office, I would imagine, going like, well, how do we make it different from this? And early on, I was thinking like, okay, cool, you take it, yeah, really lean into the supernatural, make it more like a Blumhouse ghost type of movie in some respect.
Starting point is 00:23:29 and there you have an opportunity to not have to do the high-octane action disturbing. But like that movie for its rough edges and B-movie qualities does have an intensity and does have like a bigger scare factor coming off of the animatronics. And it's funny because I don't think that these two couldn't coexist. And I think it really, I think you've ultimately kind of uncovered the main thesis of what's not working here. And I wonder why they positioned the events that they, the way that they, the way that they, did because even in times when I was flashing back to Willys watching this
Starting point is 00:24:03 they would take it in a different direction where it's like oh yeah the animatronics are just coming out cool subversion we're just seeing them we're putting them on screen we're not doing the requisite suspense buildup that we all would be sitting there going we know these are evil and blah
Starting point is 00:24:19 blah but there's also kind of there doesn't seem to be a whole lot underneath the subversions no that they put here there's nothing they're just kind of in the immediate moment sort of disconcerting And then you're like, oh, okay, well, well, this is odd. I just, I guess I didn't feel an enthusiasm behind the camera for this one. I really didn't.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I felt like, it felt kind of like when Marvel hires an independent director to do one of their movies. And this was sort of the, and like, and that's not what I associate Blumhouse with. No. I feel like Blumhouse, sometimes their failures come in the form of, they didn't do anything to reign this person. you know like that or i mean you'll get your ones that are at least purportedly like super boilerplate like yeah yeah truth or dare fantasy island but this this doesn't i didn't get the impression um damn that is uh oh a woman directed this movie cool no wonder we we're not feeling strong about it's our sexism john that's right our sexism for this movie is still starring a dude is it a person of color so we could
Starting point is 00:25:27 come across racist on top of that too oh I don't know I don't know doesn't look that way unless she's white passing who knows thank God okay we're just so she did a blem house sex is not racist thank God if you got to be one you know it's a lot more understandable yeah on the internet
Starting point is 00:25:42 she did an episode of sexes but you're being racist it's hard to get away with that sexism is a cornerstone of the internet community okay oh yeah no men invented the internet of all races but they were men Women sometimes try to do revisionist's a three-year, but no, man invented it.
Starting point is 00:26:03 So, okay, she's done a Blumhouse Into the Dark special, and then some other things that I'm not as familiar with. I'm going to guess, like this looks like, you know, it looks like she's got at least a bit more docu and dramatic background. Some horror as well. This is not the first horror thing she's done, but I feel like this may. I don't know. I thought there was a confidence behind the camera. Oh, this is a movie about the Dust Bowl? I guess so.
Starting point is 00:26:32 A Plainswoman faces the harshness and isolation of the untamed land in western frontier. Oh, it's cool. I've always wanted to see like a horror movie and the turn in the Dust Bowl. Well, dude, watch the wind. I mean, it might be, I would be curious to see this director's other movies because when I saw her name pop up at the front, I was like, oh, I don't know this person, but this seems like a neat choice. And this is one of those things where we live in a time where there are more women getting directing gigs, but they, I think, often are for, like, women's pictures. Do we got to name some women directors we like to balance the scales. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Jennifer Kent is amazing. The invitation is one of my all-time favorite psychological horror movies, which is not Jennifer Kent. It's not Karen Kuselma. The invitation? Yeah. Is Karin Kusama? Yeah. Oh, wait, no.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Who's the one who's made Seven Samurai and all the great films? Tashir of a food. Or no, uh, Kira Kurosawa. Yeah, my favorite woman director. Yeah, Kira Kurosawa. Okay, so it was Karen Kuzawa. Yeah, Emerald Finnell.
Starting point is 00:27:38 There you go. Or, uh, Catherine, I mean, Catherine Bigelow is a titan. Oh my gosh. We're not sexist. Thank God. Nia da Costa loved her remake of Candyman. Sure. Looking forward to the Marvels as well. You know, like this is... American Psycho is directed by...
Starting point is 00:27:51 Mary Hair. Yeah, good call. Ooh, Tamara Davis. All right, Gilbert, not sexist. We've proven our point. I feel like I would be interested in. See, like, I want to know what led to this person directing this movie, not in any way that I think it was a bad choice, because I feel like so much of what was happening in the construction of the movie and behind the camera was assured and had some flair and some, you know, um, and yet just the presentation of the story like I don't know this is such a huge property with merchandising and you know a game legacy and it's taken on this whole huge life and part of me is like I could see this very much being a movie that the producers are like very involved with and modulating and tweaking along the way I could see how this might not be in voice you know a good calling card for a director versus just in construction
Starting point is 00:28:52 or something like that yeah so I'm watching we're watching the wind trailer right now without any audio on and this to me does seem like more of like this looks like a distinct vision calculated perspective this is just from the trailer I'm getting and definitely more the person who would make the dream sequences it would be the person you get to do your your animatronic movie. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to be that guy. I like, I like Blumhouse. Fans of the Bobbadook and the witch are likely
Starting point is 00:29:29 to fault like that. I couldn't help but think that if this had been A-24's Five Nights at Freddy's, this would be this director's movie. Yeah. And I feel like this director was a solid, a quality choice for a movie like this, perhaps. Are you still bitter towards Blumhouse?
Starting point is 00:29:45 No, I like Blumhouse. Like, I feel like in general. John used to work at Blumhouse. Well, yeah. And I mean, We won't get into why I don't anymore. But, no, I've been a Blumhouse fan for a long time. I like a lot of their stuff. I often gravitate toward, I know they have their fair share of misses, but generally I see the Blumhouse and I'm like, yeah, let's do this. Like, I anticipate a Blumhouse, maybe not 100% as much as an 824, but I like them both, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:13 They get a lot of flack for some reason. They've produced, like, a lot of hits for the amount of flack they get. yeah, people go as a fucking plus house thing. I'm like, well, that often can be good, you know. I think, too, I tend to, I've been interrupting you an awful lot today. I'm sorry. I tend to get a lot of flack.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I tend to like a lot of their films that even get a lot of flack is what I'm trying to say. Well, yeah, because I think there is... You know what I mean, John? What's my opinion? No, I think that I would agree because, like, there are, yeah, some are more inspired than others, but a fairer. amount of the more like mid-tier Blumhouse joints or ones where I'm like, yeah, this could be more unique, but for what it is, it's perfectly serviceable. And when they are going for that
Starting point is 00:31:00 mid-range of the audience sort of blockbuster thing with some of their horror movies, I'm here for it. You know, I'm often here for it. And I'm absolutely willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. And this marriage seemed like one that makes a lot of sense pop culturally and where Blumhouse is aimed in terms of their overall demographic. You know, I think they skew younger than maybe like an A-24 does. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yeah, this felt like it maybe got lost in a no man's land of like, what audience are we supposed to be for? Because some people really want this to be an R-rated movie, and it could easily be that. And some of that stuff with the, you know, the mask and the whirring gears
Starting point is 00:31:41 just like a saw movie or something. And yet I feel like they made a horror movie, movie kind of for almost nobody except for like the youngest people who like this game. I don't think you needed the I none of it being R-rated as like I have no issue
Starting point is 00:31:57 with that at all honestly like I think I think just the context alone is you could do in a PG-13 movie it is unsettling and creepy murdering children transferring their souls and controlling them after their death like that that alone
Starting point is 00:32:13 with the imagination and the context is are rated enough and it's vibe you know the same way the games are rated teen but they have a very mature level twisted lore yeah and that that's all you need so like even like the way they had that one person who was like let me look at this pretty mouth that that like the way that death went down and then and if the movie leaned a little bit more into like the way how the games would do a bit of the pov of of mystery and a little bit of shrouded or obscurity or like turning the lights off frequently yeah like if they if they lean a little bit more into that when it comes to the violence then you can even get away with stuff that might seem more violent
Starting point is 00:32:55 than it actually is so there I I had no qualms at all with it being PG-13 and even experiencing this I was like nah there's nothing really here to happen I was like there should have been R-rated um and we already have that movie you know well I mean the thing about five nights of phrase it like when people compare to willie's wonderland is that five nights of freddies it is exceptionally really into the like when you really dive into it is so much about its history and the ghosts and all and and like the transferance of souls and and all that stuff whereas willies wonderland is a little bit more direct about like what it's advertised as and here i think this movie um kind of seemed a little disinterested some of the actual for initial appeal and then went full supernatural ghost movie and then would like remind you about animatronics stuff to the point where it becomes a bit confusing
Starting point is 00:33:51 when you're like this place evil or is this not quite evil. It was especially became confused and that's what I mean like it needed some wonder it did it lacked wonder and I think when it got confusing when it was like they spent so much time with
Starting point is 00:34:08 the ghosts of the kids that I think they should have dialed some of that back I'm not talking about the dreams If you kept them just like that in the dream world Totally cool But I'm talking about it in the actual physical world When you would see them as ghosts
Starting point is 00:34:22 Yeah make it less clear That that that's exactly what is going Yeah Yeah And and to the point where I was like Why do they just like Like typical atomatronics at times Yeah if they're living in these things
Starting point is 00:34:35 And they can kind of do as they please Kind of always Yeah I get it when there's somebody inside or whatever And they're doing their thing but, like, the rest of the time, I feel like things could be very different for them. And what are they doing, you know, in these long stretches where, like, nobody's there, you know? Yeah, and if they can go into these dream worlds and stuff, why don't they just hang out there all the time?
Starting point is 00:34:55 Because why the fuck would you want to hang out in this goddamn boring-ass pizzeria, this animatronic body? And I think they could have, I think they needed something bold for this. And I feel like they, I expected something out of the whole dream thing beyond that. I mean, I like the concept of like, oh, yeah. your body remembers everything you've ever experienced. And so somewhere buried in there is the memory that you're looking for. However, I feel like you could have, and he's taking the medicine and he's sleep deprived already, like you could have done some reality warping or something like that to really disconcert us
Starting point is 00:35:28 and to throw us off. And to, yeah, get us questioning like, okay, am I just conflating these kids with these animatronics or something because, you know, the power of suggesting your brains crashing things together? Like, there's so many opportunities for disconcertion and confusion that they didn't really seem to interest in taking. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. I mean, yeah, movies a bit repetitive with the dream stuff. Like, the dream stuff was like, I get the whole point is he's repeating this.
Starting point is 00:35:55 But I really, you get your nights built in. But, uh, yeah, yeah, but at the same time, I was like, those game fans. Does just get to a boom where it feels repetitive. Yeah, yeah, totally. And, yeah, you just need some other element of flavor. Like, if we did it, like, three times. And then you get a little further into the memory each time. And then suddenly the kids show up.
Starting point is 00:36:13 That's what I mean. Instead of introducing that so early. And then the kids show up, you're like, whoa, what is this? You know? Well, yeah, because it's interesting at first when you're seeing the dream and it's different a little bit each time. But then once he starts meeting the kids, that kind of goes away. And then he adjusts to it in such a casual manner. That's what I meant by the ghost thing.
Starting point is 00:36:36 He's just like, you're the kids who died, right? He goes, I don't know. How does this happen? but I have a little goal here He should have had like a moment of like Wait, who the hell are you guys I would doubt my sanity if I was in this character's position With the obsession that I have and then seeing these kids
Starting point is 00:36:54 And then being like wait a minute Animatronics and waking I'm taking these drugs Like part of me it was thinking like Okay like maybe someone's gonna be like Oh it's these drugs man you're seeing things Oh no wait it's not Yeah or if he was wondering is this one of the things I didn't remember Are these kids being here?
Starting point is 00:37:10 Am I involved with this? Yeah. Instead, he kind of just takes his face value. It's like, who are you entering my shit? You know? Yeah. And that was, that's what I mean. It feels like they wanted to reduce peril.
Starting point is 00:37:22 And yes, that is the problem with it. It's like they got the information across. And like I said, I'm talking about like little tweaks. I'm not saying big, big, like these little things make major differences. Yes. But I'm not saying do a major difference. on any of this stuff. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:37:41 you know, just add a tap more emphasis here, a little bit more a reaction here, change the placement up, and you got the pretty much this,
Starting point is 00:37:49 just a re-edited movie. Yeah, and people get finicky about kids in peril, but I feel like this actress seemed certainly capable enough. I think you could have,
Starting point is 00:38:00 again, for who, yeah, it's a PG-13 movie. I think you could have presented her more situations of peril or something.
Starting point is 00:38:09 thing especially when things start to turn sour because some stakes of the deaths yeah because it even when they're killing you just know that the four of the people the guys who break in you know the other family members who are trying to you know mess with him and and you know get him fired you know what's going to happen to them and the movie seems to know that you know that and and yeah there's there's no real sense of danger despite how twisted and grim all of this is it's weird it's like somebody telling you a really harsh story but with like not a lot of vocal intonation yeah well let's rate it john let's rate it a call it a day i rated a six point seven fair enough damn that's high i'll give it like a six um i think that uh i like the production design a lot
Starting point is 00:38:59 i think one thing i wasn't expecting was to be like didn't expect to like josherson's character as much as I did. And it's really elevated by his performance. Matthew Liller, I wish he was in here more, really enjoyed him a lot. He was great. I think while the animatronics could have been captured with a little bit more mood
Starting point is 00:39:20 and a little bit better buildup, I love how they brought them a life. Yeah. There was some great sound design in here. And all in all, you know, like I think the movie could have felt exceptionally more convoluted. than it actually is
Starting point is 00:39:38 you know like that that is one aspect to this that I think it could have been so bogged down with just nonstop exposition and they managed to not get overly carried away I would say yeah with it you know I was like people the people have made the the history and the backstory and while I know they changed some stuff sound like an intimidating prospect
Starting point is 00:40:05 to land into like oh you're you're opening up like a whole later you're going to have to at least watch like a three hour video to get part one to understand the five nights of friday and then so i thought this might be a situation like that when i was hearing something like i didn't i didn't feel that at all like i think they managed to make it digestible so i there's there's lots appreciate but at the same time i do think that there's a a lack of mood a lack of atmosphere a lack of tension it's not scary i don't It's not... It feels like a weird Twilight Zone episode.
Starting point is 00:40:38 It's not fun and fun. It's like intermittently fun. Like there's a moment that can be fun. And I mean like a moment and then not even really a whole scene. Yeah. It's there was nothing unnerving about it. Like I don't really know what genre this is. It's kind of a, it nor does it feel like an interesting splice of genre.
Starting point is 00:41:05 to me. There's a lot of things about it that I don't really, I didn't, I found myself becoming more disinterested as it went along and then there'd be like, oh, it's a little thing happening that was interesting. And then it would go right back to, well, they, two steps forward. It would be like one step forward, two steps back is how the experience kept going for me. Yeah. And so, yeah, at the end of the day, I have to be honest with myself and be like, I know that there's a lot of. massive fans when it comes to this, but I would give it, like, just a six out of ten. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:40 And a lot of that six is mainly for, like, the effort. For everything that they get right, barring the actual, like, emotional experience of watching it. Because, yeah, like, in closing, I guess, like, if it's absolutely fair to compare these to the games. And I think the games, what is charming about them is you have this crazy-ass lore. But the immediate moment of playing it is all just about the suspense and the, you know, kind of butterfell. fly tension of like oh god who's lurking and when are they going to pop out of me there's not even jump scares really in this
Starting point is 00:42:10 movie and looking at this this has three story by credits and three writer credits one of each is Scott Cothin and the director also has a writing credit I almost feel like this got sanded down in drafts and became what it is so so yeah
Starting point is 00:42:27 not a great adaptation of Five Nights at Freddy's but like also not terrible just just fine I'm almost I'm tempted to give it a flat 50%, like a five out of ten. I'm more there, but I'm more there for effort because I can understand
Starting point is 00:42:41 like the part of it is that like putting a, I think at the end you should just judge a movie based on whatever the final product is. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm going to judge it based off the treatment. I do have, I do have, no, I'm saying that like yeah, having some understanding of the lore and then seeing some things they had to change
Starting point is 00:43:02 and then having to adapt something like this is no easy no eaves that's a that's not difficult obstacle for something like this it really is and i could see it's easier for us to be in this position and look at what we're what we just watched and here's what we would have changed but maybe some of those changes were happening as they were making it when they were realizing well this isn't working this isn't working so maybe this was indeed the best thing they could do with the time because you have to deal with scheduling you got to deal with production you got to deal with a whole but like there's a whole lot of things that I can imagine we're working against it that maybe this was the best they they thought they could do as they were trying to change it to thinking about some stuff um but no I mean overall as a as a final product like literally the six is for effort but if it on just an emotional thing I have no real strong emotions about what this movie did for me so I I am emotionally like a five yeah just like lukewarm tepid yeah it's yeah i'm actually i would say i'm disappointed by that like i have no
Starting point is 00:44:09 i have no real strong feeling and this is this is something that we're you your main job was just to make something fun and exciting yeah i feel like this is the kind of movie where you can if you get a couple things right you can skate by a lot of other things and this is the weird experience where it gets like a lot of things technically well crafted and yet misses the like even one greater element of whatever suspense fun etc. could have made
Starting point is 00:44:41 this you know the fun you wanted it to be yeah whereas here yeah you're left with like god there's so much good work and this all could have worked really well however you know yeah yeah yeah at the end of the day a little disappointed with it at the same time
Starting point is 00:44:57 I'm like my mind's also going it could have been a lot worse could have been affordable yeah it's weird And it doesn't, yeah, it's such a funky movie because it doesn't feel, I don't even feel like angry about this. No, it's just kind of like, ah, this could have been more. I am so, it's very resolute. It has left me in a resigned, apathetic mood.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I'm just like, whatever, I don't really give a shit. That's where I'm at. Okay, what's next? Yeah. You know, yeah, I don't know. It doesn't leave you with much to chew on. I don't think I'll be ruminating on these experience. And then somehow we talk for like 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:45:34 I know. Well, sometimes it's this kind of movie. We're like, what is it? What is it about this that doesn't work? Somehow we have landed into the longest discussion we've had in a very long time. Yes. And there's only two of us. It's okay. This is an important cultural moment.
Starting point is 00:45:49 It is fascinating. We'll have a tight 10 when we watch The Exorcist to Believe in. All right, guys. Well, what did you think about this movie? Did you love it as a film? What did it do for you? Leave your thoughts down below. And, hey, we'll talk with you all soon.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Thanks for being here. All right, John, what's the theme? All right, we're going to shout out all of our super sexy $10 patrons with a Halloween party theme. And we've entered everyone into chat GPT so it knows all your identities. Now it's going to come up with costumes for each of you based on your name. They'll either be something funny, scary, or there'll be movie related, something like that. So here we go.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I told Chad GPT to keep it snappy. Let's do this. We're going to react to it in real time. We're going to react to it. All right. Here's a fun Halloween party shout out for your super sexy rejects, this chat GPT.
Starting point is 00:46:47 All right. We got Namari coming into the party. Nomari the Nightwalker from a lost episode of the Twilight Zone. You get to look that up for yourself. The CV gun 123. He's the possessed VHS. tape from the ring rewind i sure that's actually pretty it's pretty fun we found what chat gpt is good at
Starting point is 00:47:09 rewind at your own risk mike joyce mike the killer jukebox joyce every song he plays foretells a horror tale that's great it's awesome really great fertz furchi seferci's scissor hands the lesser known even more eccentric cousin of edward Not bad. You know, that would be charming. That would be funny. Ryan Smith as Ryan the reanimated straight out of Frankenstein's lab. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Count Adrian Tim's, Count Adrian from Hotel Transylvania. A bit more fashionable, though. Perfect. Real Nagas as a snake charmer who accidentally summoned the serpent from the Black Lagoon. There's like backstories to these guys. This is so great. Heather gear, Heather Headless Horsewoman. That is inventive, haunting the streets of sleepy hollow.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Dude, the alliteration today. Ian's, that's a great one. I got a bit, man. If any of you dresses, they're selling me all the most capability. Said pictures. A good suggestion of Halloween costumes. I'm going to ask what I should be this year, because I would have trouble deciding. Ian Simon, Ian Invisible, the man you feel, but never see.
Starting point is 00:48:24 How do you do that? That's a pickup line right. How do you be the invisible? All right. Song-high Glover, the Song-high Siren, her songs are little zombies instead of sailors. Ooh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:48:34 There's just stories to these guys. Actually, you do it invisible. You get a shirt with the collar up above your head, and then you just get a wire and put some glasses. I've seen people do it. That's pretty good. Pretty clever than you work gloves. Hey, we got Kayla King,
Starting point is 00:48:47 Kayla the King, as Kayla the Pharaoh's curse disturb her tomb and face her wrath. Sexy. Yeah, that's good. And you can, depending on your race, you know, appropriate some color. there. Alan Ling and as Alan the alien from the movie they live among us. Ooh. All right. It's just a movie character. I just watch that movie. I like how this decides between like you are just a movie character because of your name or we're going to give you a whole backstory because there's not a new movie character. Yeah, this is just who I think you are. So I'll make up a character based off of that. Hey, Kiera dressed as Kira the killer clown Pennywise's competition.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Clever. Because there's got to be someone dressed as Pennywise at the party so you can challenge. Eric Kahn's 39, Eric the extraterrestrial. He's not from around here. Beautiful. He's got a catchphrase. Let this be the last one. Nick X. Nick X. The exorcist. Got demons called Nick. That is so smart. That's magic. All right. Put it away. We'll do the rest in another video. I want to like reacting to these in real time. Yeah. Move the window. John Jesus. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. My B. My B. My B. My B. Guys, Thank you for coming to our Halloween party. If any of you dress up like this, seriously, take some picks and we'll share them somewhere.
Starting point is 00:50:04 And we love you. Be well. Thank you.

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