The Reel Rejects - FULL METAL JACKET (1987) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

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That's what I think I don't know if they wear metal jackets In this movie Like I said I know I know that's as much as him I would That would make sense Anyways

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This movie, you know, you watch some movies, Andrew, that just, like, leave you with just a bitter feeling in your mouth, in your mind, leave you just walking away feeling down. I think this is one of those movies. Yeah, understandable. That being said, that being said, is a really great movie. is really, really good. Stanley Kubick really did his thing with this movie, making it so visceral in the sense that, you know, really puts you into the scene in the time

of where this movie takes place, you know, and providing perspective, especially in the second half, seeing the contrast between what it's like in the military unit versus what is actually like in the war and us following Joker's character through the course of this journey. I just thought it was, it was, yeah, it was, it was dower, it was ugly, it was seemingly

authentic, granted, I know just as much about it, as Andrew knows, before going into this movie about the Vietnam War, but I think even not knowing a lot about the war, I feel like it gives you enough to really understand why, at least within the context of why these characters are doing what they're doing, to follow the story. It never leaves you lost. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just stuck with that, that final shot, you know, what Joker had to do or what he did do, you know.

But the contrast between the born to kill and the peace and him being questioned about that, for them that had to come full circle in a more sinister way because he, there was this woman, he raised questions to that one soldier earlier in the movie where they were shooting from the helicopter and that contrast between, you know, You know, doing something that's an act of peace, an act of kindness in that he had to kill.

I also said Mark Ellis right there. Shout out to Mark Ellis. I don't know if he worked on this. I'm going to guess it's a very different. It said Anton first as well, a production designer on this. I don't know. That is. Oh, he's a director.

Oh, okay. But sorry, continue. But yeah, no, I think that, you know, this movie is very effective. It's under two hours long, but still is able to provide it with a full experience. and the fact that it's it's under two hours long and it's essentially two different movies but because it's able to... It really is.

Yeah, it's literally two different movies. It's two different films. But in two different movies, two different tones entirely but following the same character but able to capture the totality of those experiences in a way where it is putting you in those shoes. It's very, very impressive. And...

Absolutely. Yeah, I understand why. this is such a popular movie right now because white has been a such a popular movie yeah and yeah it it leaves me as it gives me a different feeling than saving private ryan does because i feel like it it definitely honed in on the the ugliness of the soldiers and the war you know for sure for sure and you know stanley kruberkin and um stephen spillberg have different directing styles but you know i think just like saving private ryan and i would say that because that's the the last war movie and i had watched together you can find that on the channel

check it out please check it out it's a really good one um yeah it definitely uh shows that ugliness even though i feel like overall that one has more of a character focus as we're focusing on one squad right but i feel like this one is Matthew Modine or Joker's the through line and then seeing where he comes from in the training aspect to where he ends up. I thought it was very... Absolutely.

Yeah, I thought it was powerful. No, it was a great film. No, it's a great film. And before I continue, is this your first taste of Stanley Kubrick or have you seen any other of his films? You've seen The Shining. I've only ever seen the Shining.

Okay, so this is your second. Well, I guess for me too, this is my second. I thought he was a masterful job, like you said. Yeah, no. it's really is two different films. I know a lot of times and people probably are going to say, God, you reference Jaws quite a bit.

It's one of the greatest movies of all times. There's a reason. I usually reference it when I talk about horror movies in terms of like, if you want to nail the horror aspect, you got to get the characters, right? You know, in terms of getting us to invest in these characters to give a shit.

But where I'm going to reference Jaws a little in this is that film, what it did so masterfully and what I think was interesting about this film, that movie has two different. different halves and are two different films like you have the first half of Jaws is is straight up just a horror picture and the second half yeah there are definitely horror aspects where they're trying to survive and hunt the shark dump it's an action adventure uh film the second I've never seen Jaws okay we got a lot of in this way you know I love in this reaction we've discovered a lot of reactions

for Aaron to come up with we got the matrix we've got Jaws uh apocalypse now um but uh yeah no I would say like you know it was it was kind of uh interesting from that that perspective that like again the the two halves are totally different but you know i i like that the first half just it set the you know the theme of just that dehumanizing effect like especially with the powerful performance from r lee emery i believe uh wonderful performance i didn't like the character which again you're not meant to obviously um but i understand where he was coming from in terms of getting these guys ready in a situation where you need to become a killing machine um so i understand what his purpose and what he was trying to do.

And again, powerful performance by the actor. I'm curious to see if he was nominated. I'm going to check that out after we do our trivia and stuff. But, again, I thought it was interesting things that Kubrick and whoever the writer were doing about the theme of dehumanizing and, like, again, the effects it has on the mind. Because look what happened to Vincent Donofrio's character. Again, just me projecting, I don't know if he was actually autistic. It just, that was just what I was thinking I was getting from the vibes. Or he was very socially awkward, whatever.

But again, he was genuinely a happy guy, you know, and he was trying to get, you know, used to the idea of being in the Marine Corps, whatever, and training, basic training, which is not easy. You know, whether you're autistic, socially awkward or just regular, you know, you have no issues at all. It's a very difficult thing, basic training. It's not easy. It's not for the faint-hearted anyways.

The point I'm making is I just thought, like, to see that, you know, the decodum, me of where he started to wear Vincent Dinoffre, like that look he gave. That's one of the most powerful looks I've ever seen. It was scary as shit. I mean, you said it best. I mean, you're like, what did you say the hair on the back of my neck? Yeah, I fell through my whole body. Yeah, no, I felt to do that look.

He was like the whatever he, that look he made. I mean, that was scary as shit. But like, it was earned throughout like everything like that had happened up to that point. And from where we started off with Dinoffrey, I was like, oh, I feel. bad what they're doing to him like you know and i understand why they're doing that because they have to you know all the the rest of the team has to you know face the punishments for his failures now so i i understand why they're beating him and committing the code red or whatever you call it i get why they're doing that but also like your your his loss of innocence and uh dehumanizing him it's just

it's awful i feel so terrible for this person as well um but again that moment was extremely well earned too to the point where i was like okay i buy this um so i thought that was very powerful but also too it's set up to the point like even when we watch the guy as you pointed out as well on the helicopter just mowing innocent people down which was disgusting and despicable into that mindset of dehumanizing i'm like okay they don't view people anymore as human beings so it's like this is just it's just targets now and also they brought up that story and that point about lee harvey as well i forgot the other word charlie wilmore or apologies about forgetting that other name about that 20 about the one in 10

or wherever that story was. Yeah, the mass shooter. Yeah, the mass shooter. And again, we know that all atrocities that are committed with mass shooters, there are not people who are in the army or any type of infantry unit. Of course not.

There are other people who are disturbed and do these atrocities. But it is something like psychologically speaking. I thought the movie made an interesting point. You know, like, you were literally training these people to become like, you know, killing machines. So when, and humanizing human machines. Yeah, and again, understandable for the situation,

they are being prepared for. I get it. I mean, you're going to survive in this type of battlefield and situation, I understand. But now when it's peacetime and the war is over and you go to normal situations

and normal settings and the PTSD sets in, like, what happens now? So it's interesting, the psychology behind it. And I thought, like, that was really nailed down in this film as well.

Like, yes, from the perspective of what you were talking about with saving Private Ryan, totally different because we're really focusing on the entire infantry of the group there and was really more of a character, I mean, obviously we got that insane action in that film,

which was incredible. It was one of the most insane action I've ever seen in a film, especially a war film. But really focusing in on the characters here. But I just think the psychological study of dehumanizing in the themes were really powerfully done in this film as well, in my opinion. Yeah, no, I thought it was great, you know. And watching the authenticity of what we're experiencing with these guys.

I feel like I can't even, Maybe it's a product of the time or the director, but there's this sense of wanting us to root for these characters by portraying them in a certain light, but I feel like this movie was very authentic in portraying these soldiers in their totality. And like, from

the way that they spoke to one another, to the way that they interacted with their environment. And even that scene was, which was, I felt it was important for us to kind of ground or establish where each of these characters' perspectives were when they were being interviewed, right? And like, some of them just wanted to go back to their hometown and say, I got to kill. And other ones were

like, I just hate Vietnam or Vietnamese people in general and like how each of their own personal experiences influenced why they were there in the first place. And it made me question like, okay, just the nature of war in general, right? Because you are there to do a job. You were there to attain an objective, obtain, get something done. But in the process of that, that through that objective, you were desensitized to the enemy or people that don't look like you. But with this particular war, it's like what the north side fighting against the south side. Correct. And I believe we were in the aid of the south, I believe is my understanding.

Yeah, we're in the aid of the south. So I feel like because of that nature and this. This is entirely, this is one country, but divided by two different political beliefs. I imagine that there would be a sense of hate and resentment for even the people that are on your side that's supposed to be defending. And you saw that with the one black soldier that he was like, and they're so ungrateful for what we're doing for them. It's like, you guys are in a war that you're not, and it's under the guise of fighting for freedom, you know, and I feel like watching that. I was trying to remove my own personal judgments about like, why. Because we got a little bit of, we didn't know a ton about the war going in, but we were told by Greg a little bit of information going into it about, you know, like just the nature of the Vietnam War because neither of us really had any knowledge about it.

But the sense that this was a war that was fought in, under the guise of like preventing the enemy, a potential enemy from coming to harming America. but that that goal was under the guise of freedom for America because if these people click up together this is going to harm the future of us or the country so for them to really believe in that cause but to have that that cause warped it makes me really question you know then what that does to the human psyche and especially kind of building off what you were saying like you were trained for this thing. What does that do when you come back? You know,

how are you able to acclimate back to society? Because I imagine seeing the things you've seen and doing the things you've done would irreparably change your brain chemistry. You know, in the way you operate. And I feel like we saw Matthew Modine or Joker at the end finally crossed that line,

at least in an intentional way because we've seen him shoot at people, we've never seen him shoot someone directly and let alone it be this person that's caused someone's destruction you find out it's like this young girl and just the haunting contrast both within the second half of the movie

where they're just playing all of these like upbeat fun tunes in the middle of this dark scenario but especially having the soldiers sing this Mickey Mouse song this like Mickey Mouse this symbol of of levity and childhood and you know just American innovation with Disney and

having it contrasted with the soldiers walking in this war zone with fire in the background, singing this upbeat song. It was just the way that the movie displayed that dichotomy was haunting. Very good. No, very good points. I completely agree with you. Reject Nation, when I heard that this company wanted to partner up with us yet again, I was so enthusiastic about it.

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That was literally his first line when this drill sergeant asked him. So I thought that was an interesting, I don't know if subversion of expectations, the right words, but just like in terms of just where we're going with this character. Because that's where I thought we were going to go. Like, he's just there to do that because it's the words that are coming out of his mouth. So that's where my mind's going. Yeah. And then like we see, too, he befriends Vincent Donofrio's character.

And then when they're doing like the code red stuff with the soap, like he doesn't want to actually do that. No. And I thought, too, there was an interesting foreshadow line just from what he had done previously to not actually, to that animal, Adam Baldwin's character says to him, you talk the talk, but can you walk the walk? You know what I mean? And then obviously, he had to there in that situation because he saw this woman was suffering. And like you said, you know, the contrast between the born to kill and the peace thing, like he thought by killing her, he was giving her the peace. You know, so yeah, no, it was a fascinating journey. And I thought that was like it was very, you know, deep in that sense. So, no, very, I really liked his character a lot, actually, because I wasn't expecting it to go there just from the first lines from what we got from his character in the film. So I like that.

And again, like I said, I don't know if subversion of expectations is the right way, but that's not where I was expecting the character to go. So I was actually, yeah, I was fascinated with that. But before we get into trivia, I will also say Kubrick directed the hell out of this. I loved a lot of the tracking shots, especially at the beginning when you got those monologues with the drill sergeant just staying on one shot. I can't even imagine how long that took to how many takes, how long that took. Impressive, great acting, especially from the two stand.

I mean, again, Matthew O'Dine, all the other actors, they did a phenomenal job. I don't want to take anything away, but the two standouts for me were the drill sergeant are Lee Emery. Don't like his character very much, but his performance fantastic. And Vincent DiNofrio, again, these are two acts. They got nominated for this. They were incredible. And they were just in the first. half of them. I weren't even in the whole

film. But they were the, for me, they were the standouts. But the other actors and Matthew Modin included fantastic, great performance. And I liked the relationships and the interactions between Cowboy and Joker. I thought

really well, too, like you felt that friendship and the kinship between the two characters and when obviously that had what happened to Cowboy, like you felt that. I felt that, you know, you were emotionally invested in those two characters because, you know, we went through the whole basic training with them up to that point. Obviously, that was just an error.

I mean, Cowboy had tried, you know, he wasn't used to that leadership role, so he was in a situation, and obviously the intensity was up. We were in a dire situation. He's something he's not used to, taking a leadership role. And he tried to order animals several times, but animal is very war hungry and, you know, kind of like to the point I was just making about Joker, he's there to kill people. Animal was there to kill people. Right.

And obviously, we do know, like, he didn't want his soul, his brothers. in arms to die either. It was kind of a double-edged sword with him. But he was not listening to orders, and he got, in my opinion, he got Cowboy killed, Arles Howard's character killed. The first two guys went without order as well. Correct. Yeah, no, no, no, fair enough.

I guess you could blame. Well, the first guy, he went, that was an order to go to check out. But the second one, he definitely went, not listening to Arles Howard to Cowboy. and definitely animals. So, and but I guess you could also make a point to that cowboy, he still could have said, all right, you let them go, but we got, we follow orders, let's wait either for a tank or let's get out of here because, you know, because this is not a situation where we have the, the high ground, if you will, making my revenge of the Sith reference, but we're not in a

situation where we, we're in a proper situation here where we can win this. So, but yeah, but I'm surprised too, Joker. And again, I know the situation was dire. I was surprised I was expecting him to get on Animal like why did you just listen or something like that but yeah interesting do you have anything else you'd like to add before we get into the trivia

the score was great fantastic yeah the music really set the tone not not the soundtracks and the needle drops but the actual score when you're the heat of the action really really put you there and it's really immersive absolutely absolutely and I like too a lot of we were talking about the cinematography with the tracking shots

I like too some of those POV type shots where they were like even where they were ducking down and walking in like it really felt immersive in that way as well so just so many different things that appreciate it totally agree all right wow this specific piece of trivia i'm about to read got 1,151 people found interesting oh yeah so i haven't even read it i just read that in the first part of the movie in the sequence in the sequences inside the barracks during the drill a special lens was designed to keep every single recruit in focus. Director Stanley Kubrick intended that no one was special and they all had the same

treatment. Wow. Very, very cool. In an interview for the DVD, R. Lehm, Irme, I guess I've been saying his name wrong this whole time. I'm probably going to hear that in the comment section. You don't even know how to pronounce his last name. I'm a scumbag, Megget.

Is that a decent impersonation of him? I don't know. Yeah. And in an interview for the DVD R. Lee Irmey, there we go, said it right this time, said he felt Vincent DiNafrio's performance was not only the best in the film, but was the best part of the film as a whole. Yeah. I think it was phenomenal. Yeah. Director Stanley Kubrick had nothing but praise for R. Lee, Irme,'s skill as a performer.

Kubrick originally was going to write dialogue for Arme's character himself, but he became so impressed with what Armei improvised. He decided it was not necessary. He simply just let him add lib and act practically unheard of for a Stanley Kubrick film. Armey's performance was so faultless that Kubrick only needed two or three takes to get his scenes filmed, which was also extremely rare for a Kubrick film. See, I told you that. The only instance Armey had to film more than two or three takes was the jelly donut scene, which he claimed was filmed and only 37 takes to the point his voice kept disappearing from time to time.

Didn't I say too? I can't imagine how many times he lost his voice. Right. I'm like, because he's shouting at the top of his lungs. It has to be hoarse. Yeah, it's the same thing with Christian Bale when he's doing that Batman voice on Sam. I'm like, I got to imagine this guy's losing his voice. So much.

All right, I do a couple more and then I'll get to the spoiler trivia. According to an interview with Vincent Dinofrio, the production schedule for this film was so drawn out that lead actor Matthew Modine got married, conceived a child with his wife. The child was born and then turned one years old all during the course of filming. Wow. That's a long production. That is a long production. Well, I'll never forget the joke that Vincent DiNoffrio gave because they asked when it was announced that Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman were going to be for eyes wide shut. They asked Vincent DeNofrio, do you have any advice for Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman?

Yeah, enjoy living in England because you're going to be there for a very long time. It's a Stanley Kubrick film You're going to be there a long time That's funny All right two more And then I'll get to the spoiler ones I'll do a couple of those Before you say that

Maybe because they were filming so long Maybe they did film this in order Maybe they actually did shave his head And then was there so long to grow the hair back Let's wait for your hair to go back We'll take a couple weeks of us on I guess Or however long it takes for your hair to grow back To make

Gunry Sergeant Hartman's performance And the recruits reactions As convincing as possible Matthew Modine, Vincent Donofrio, and the other actors playing recruits never met Ralee Irmei prior to filming. Stanley Kubrick also saw it to that. Irme didn't fraternize with the actors between takes. Smart.

It's more authentic when you're watching it in because it feels like they're scared shitless of him and they've never met him before. So that was a wise decision to do. The strangers is coming in, giving orders. Absolutely. Okay, so this is the last one I'm going to read. Then I'll just do a couple of the trivia ones.

of the spoiler trivia ones rather One scene cut from the film Showed a group of Marines playing soccer The scene was cut because a shot revealed They were kicking a human head On a soccer ball Oh Damn that's darkish shit

Super dark I believe this guys would do that I mean that would have made an interesting reaction Oh there's no spoiler ones Really? Yeah normally they have you know in the red the spoilers Yeah Okay well I'll read two more then

I'll go back to that spot I was up. But normally, like, you know, with, I'll say this, like that would have made quite an intense reaction from us if we would have seen like an actual head coming out. But, uh, okay, last two, I promise. Aaron's like, yeah, right. I'm actually really into these facts. I was like, the whole time I was like,

I can't wait to get the facts, actually. Regarding his character, Gunny Hartman's brutal discipline of the recruits, Arlie Armey once said in an interview that a marine drill instructor would never physically slap choke or punch a recruit, at least not openly. Even back in his day as a young Marine, nevertheless, the gunnery sergeant in the book that the film was based on the short timers by Gustav Hasford

often resorts to physical, excuse me, often resorts to physical violence during the latter part of his drilling period, something that was significantly toned down in the film. Really? Wow. That's crazy. All right. Last one, I promise, guys. Oh, two more. Because I just found out this is the last one here.

Sorry. Okay. You'll like this one. All right. on which the film is based while serving in Vietnam. I wonder if he's basing himself as the Matthew Modine character, because he's the writer. I could see that. Maybe. That makes sense to me. Yeah. He's like, hey, I just want to write a piece. was cut. Okay, according to

the actress, director Stanley Kubrick, cut the scene because it detracted from the cold mood of the film. Smart decision. I think that was smart. Okay, last one, promise. Denzel Washington was considered for the role of eight ball, but he declined because he couldn't read the script before auditioning. He has since said that

it is a role that he regrets missing out on. Wow. We regrets not seeing Tenzel in this film. I do like the actor that they got for eight ball. I believe if I'm not mistaken, the actor that played eight ball was the one who was shot several times by the sniper. The one I said was in sudden death with Jean-Claude Van Damme. Oh, I totally could just see. I mean, this was Denzel in 87, so he wasn't famous,

famous Denzel yet, but yeah, I would have killed that. And I think that was, what, a couple years before he did glory, because I think glory was 89. Don't remind them of glory. Yeah. No, but, no, but I mean, because he had just, because he was going to do a war film two years after that. So I wonder if he would have got that role if he did this one. So, but I guess we'll never, I guess we'll never know. um anyways uh that's all the facts that we could read otherwise we'd be here for a long time but uh let us know in the comments section what did you think of this film and before i let send it off is there anything else you'd like to say about a full metal jacket uh no it was

it was great uh it was disturbing and i'm i'm forever changed having seen it yes no uh sir i'd love to also see more stanley kubrick film so if there's other suggestions you guys have about Stanley Kubrick films that you'd like Aaron, myself or other members of the team to react to. Yes, us right here, that you'd like other members of the team to react to. We'd love to hear your thoughts. Also, let us know what you think of this film as it stood the test of time since 1987. And yeah, just let us know in the comment section. Thank you if you've made it this far for joining us thus far. We appreciate. Love you guys. And we shall see you next time. Late.