The Reel Rejects - FURY (2014) MOVIE REVIEW! FIRST TIME WATCHING!

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Starting point is 00:02:00 wow yeah by the way if you guys are listening to us on apple or spotify if you would not mind rating us we really would appreciate it i know jondled and myself would please so much thank you so much uh now really oh brad pitt produced it cool that makes sense um no really really heartfelt film i appreciated david air's gritty style of directing and writing too i mean look the action sequences and the cinematography i mean i i can't Is this real footage? I would assume. This looks like authentic footage.

Starting point is 00:02:37 Yeah, I would assume. Continue, but, but yeah. I was just saying, like, I appreciated David Ayers' gritty style of filmmaking from the action sequences and the cinematography. And also, too, I truly appreciated just, you know, I always talk about this when we're in period pieces, like really getting the feel of that we're in that time and feeling like we're there. But I think the thing that I appreciated the most in this was the camaraderie between the team, the dialogue, the interactions. It was so good. And I like that things were not always so black and white. And what I mean by that is, yeah, they were, for the most part, they were good guys, but there were also times where they were, I mean.

Starting point is 00:03:18 I mean, but also, too, there were times where they could be pieces of shits, too. That's what I'm saying. Like, when we got to. I think good guy is a very dubious term. Well, I'm saying things were not always black and white. Like I'm saying, when we got to the scene after Logan Lerman had had, you know, become a man, if you will. And then we get to see John Bernthal in a drunk state of mind was not a very good human being there in any way, shape, or form. Even though we were on.

Starting point is 00:03:45 I mean, even when he wasn't drunk most of the time. Yeah, no, no, no, of course. But I did. But there was that scene that really humanized him when they were in the hospital wing and him and Logan Lerman talked. I was like, okay, I appreciate John Bernthal's performance. I haven't been on this character's side the whole time at all, really. But I do appreciate this interaction we're getting. It's kind of humanizing the character just a little bit,

Starting point is 00:04:05 even though I know he's been through hell and back, and I can only imagine psychologically what that does to someone. Well, yeah, it's that it's that ray of humanity that for a character like that, especially, I mean, you have to wonder like, okay, this guy has seen the horrors of war, obviously, but like, what else was this dude's life like that, you know, it's like, what are all the layers of who this guy is? And I have to believe that, you know, it's that nuance of like, there's humanity in this person. And here's a glimpse of it.

Starting point is 00:04:36 But, you know, it's, yeah, it's part of this gray portrait of who he is and by extension who all these people are. And, yeah, like I thought that, yeah, this whole movie kind of dealt in the gray or just the mud of everything. Because, yeah, I mean, you know, you're with American soldiers. Americans watching this. So, like, there's a certain subconscious just like, oh, yeah, you know, like these are the good guys and the Germans are the bad guys. And, like, certainly, you know, there's nothing, uh, um, that's the opposite of reprehensible. You know, like the Nazi ideology is completely reprehensible. Um, but, you know, it does speak to the fact that there are all these, you know, ideologies and strategies and all this stuff kind of hovering in a cloud above you. But when you're there on the ground, you know and you're limited to just you know the people next to you and the gun in your hands yeah it's like you can proselytize about you know morality and what war is but i think at a certain point i think what this movie seeks to kind of give to you is that experience that like i don't know goodness and badness and all sorts of things are kind of stories you tell

Starting point is 00:05:48 yourself to get through the the trauma of it all because like watching this you know it's like you've got this character in Bible, you know, who is, you know, obviously the most religious character, but by proxy is keeping them all, you know, he's bringing at least that element to the whole team. And you get the sense that like, aside from him, I don't really think these guys are religious or care about the concept of God even, but it's not even about that at a certain point. It's like, or when they're saying, like, best job in the world, you know, or whatever that, that thing they kept repeating was. It's got morale. It is. It is. about morale and it's like all we can do is just convince ourselves like there was so much great acting because what I loved was was so many moments were filled with these you know these words these you know sentiments and things that appear one way on face value but when you look at the faces and you look at the body language you can feel what they're really saying that they can't say because to say it in place value

Starting point is 00:06:54 terms would probably be too much and probably break down that emotional wall. Yeah. So yeah, it's like I thought this was really fascinating because obviously David Ayer you know, from his most respected work is clearly you know, skilled at

Starting point is 00:07:10 bringing empathy to people in the harsher positions in life. I mean, we've seen him do a lot of gangster and cop related stuff so that's obviously flirting on the line and this is sort of like a global geopolitical version of that. essentially you just have warring clans essentially and so this is actually kind of a great i think

Starting point is 00:07:31 kind of peace for him because it really speaks to the empathy that i think you know whenever i hear david a or you know speak or shoot a sentiment out there like i get the sense that he is a thoughtful and a compassionate empathetic guy who also is very aware of the harshness that exists in the world and the places in which there is no easy answer to right and wrong and the ways in which you know you might have to in some way collaborate with a person who otherwise is sort of reprehensible and you would never want to know otherwise and so this I thought really skillfully you know depicted in what feels like very real time and what feels kind of it had the right scope because you you meet you know Brad Pitt

Starting point is 00:08:20 And then you meet the team and then you meet Logan, Logan, you meet Norman and machine. Yeah, it's like you meet dad, you meet the family, and then you meet us, essentially, or the eye line, you know, for us, you know, to sympathize the most with and to kind of go through this right of passage alongside this horrific, but at the time, especially, you know, pretty common right of passage. And yeah, like the way in which you're at first sort of, you know, put at odds with Brad Pitt, and you're like, come on, man. Like, geez, like, take it easy. But very quickly, you see, like, I get what he's doing, though.

Starting point is 00:08:56 Of course. And I get that it's not only about him and Norman, it's about, I'm helping you not only survive this situation of war, but also the situation of the people around us that we have to be, you know, bonded to in order to get through this and to complete our mission. And there were so many times, like Brad Pitt's performance, like, there's so much in what he's doing that feels clear, even though it is unsaid, where I just constantly got the sense of like, I see myself in this kid. I know exactly what he's going through. I cannot afford to engage with him and probably don't even have the means in this position to engage with him

Starting point is 00:09:34 in a truly compassionate way. But what I can do is really protect his transition into the depths that we are about to traverse. Yeah. For sure. I mean, and just adding to that, like, I was frustrated when Brad Pitt was like holding the gun to him and even though obviously as a Jew like obviously I wanted to delete as many SS Nazis as possible in this time period of course but like it's frustrating to to see like him taking away that innocence of Norman but at the same time it's like this is not an innocent place that they're in right now this is a war and you know in order for them and the team to survive like he's got to put Norman in a hardened state of mind in a hardened place yeah and the journey we go through with Norman getting to that place I just thought it was

Starting point is 00:10:18 an amazing journey and arc that we go through with his character. Yeah. And at the same time, I just, I feel so bad because he didn't even want to be there. And obviously, I'm not saying, I'm not saying the other guys wanted to be there, although I would, especially over his head. Yeah, for sure. So it was, you know, quite, and Logan Lerman, I haven't seen too many. Yeah, he's a really great actor. I haven't really, I haven't watched Percy Jackson or many other of his performances, but I really thought he did such a phenomenal job. like you said, just breaking down barriers with his expressions, his facial reactions. I thought he did such a phenomenal job.

Starting point is 00:10:53 And, like, he really is the audience in this film. He represents us. And this is, like, kind of how we would react to being thrust into such a crazy situation. And, you know, I felt that vulnerability through him. And also, too, on the same point of Brad Pitt, yeah, he's got to be the hardened dad at points. But also, too, he becomes the sympathetic mother at some points, too. Like, you can feel the vulnerability. side that he feels towards Norman too.

Starting point is 00:11:18 And I appreciated those delicate moments that he felt like he loved Norman. And I love those moments where those delicate situations that he felt and that he had with Norman. Like I really love and I thought David Air was really able to balance those moments. You know, like again like you said

Starting point is 00:11:34 in transitioning him into what he needed him to become because at the end of the day, yeah, he's got to get him ready for the situations that they're in but also too like his life and the lives of the team members and everyone else that are fighting around him. they're in each other's hands. Totally.

Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah. And, you know, War Daddy seems to exist as this intermediary between both sensibilities because he can certainly be, he can certainly have that bloodlust and that detachment that you sort of need. But yeah,

Starting point is 00:12:00 he's not fully detached from what it feels like he's probably just lost because, like, he says that thing about, like, this is my home. Like, you know, clearly he wouldn't be as, gotten as far as he has and be as good at, he says that thing about, like, you know, we're one of the few squads,

Starting point is 00:12:16 squadrons or little battalions like this who's like stayed together kept together and it has been doing this for a minute now and so yeah no yeah and so like it's a it's a fascinating array of emotional tones and you only get it's like i i really like the way that this played out because you feel like you're joining even though it has these very still and very poised bookends and these very sort of uh uh uh you know kind of sculpted isn't the right word exactly but yeah these very deliberate bookends that then sort of just give way to action that just keeps going. Like there's, this felt almost like watching something like a 1917 or something like that where, you know, that movie the whole concede is like it's one long take, so to speak. It's played off as one long take. It's very immediate. You're in the real time. And this isn't fully real time, but this did feel a lot like that.

Starting point is 00:13:10 And this restricted you in the sense that you're almost always with. One of them, one of this core, you know, one of the crew of the Fury is who you're always kind of with. And so it's like it has this narrow view, not in a bad way or as a slight, but it has this sort of focus that keeps things very contained to this place and time. You're not hopping around a lot of places. You're not, you know, zooming very far out. And I think that enhances the perspective of everything and it enhances the, you know, like in the early parts of the movie, you're spending. so much time just moving around and, you know, on this caravan and, like, it's muddy and damp and just unpleasant all around for everybody. And it's kind of like everyone's just bored.

Starting point is 00:13:55 We're just moving. And then we come into a little township. And then there's a firefight, but then we get this moment of respite. And, you know, then there's that little, like, that, that whole scene in the, in the house with, um, the woman and Emma, like, was so tense because obviously, you know where these things could head. Right. Because you have a bunch of, you know, soldiers repressed and you know having a break for a minute um but that i thought was a terrific example of like i love the way this used scenes because it never really took breaks to have like a lot of cliche you know here's your requisite like oh my girl back home kind of scene not to slight other movies and the approach that other war movies take but this had like two very

Starting point is 00:14:39 distinct prolonged scenes you had the scene upstairs and then you had the scene uh um later on uh uh there's a there's a scene later on when they finally start to bond with him and everything and like the actual five of them really come together yeah yeah i think it's that scene like there were a couple scenes that really struck me in the moment of like oh we're just letting this scene be what it is and and i like that because it really did feel like there's not a break you never really get to pull your head out of this and even in the brief moments you know, where you are taken away from it, you know, it's still right around the corner, it still, you know, could ambush you at any second, you know, and, yeah, it's just like the sense

Starting point is 00:15:24 of perspective and the portrait of, that's the thing, it's like, yeah, there are the broad strokes of who the good and bad guys are. And even though, like, yeah, you know, when we're dealing with Nazis, there's not a lot of, you know, moral wiggle room there, but there is still that essence of when you're just out here on the battlefield and you're kind of, all that stuff is upstairs on the table of the politicians, you do feel just the horrific nature of humanity all around, even if you, you know, aren't like, oh, these precious Nazi. You know, like at the same time, you know, this is this sort of harsh, awful thing

Starting point is 00:15:59 that is like made necessary and that people just got to deal with. And, yeah, it's like both a coming of age story, but also, you know, for the brag pick character, like, you know, the end of, you know, like coming to a place of rest and, you know, completing the mission, so to speak, but even the mission is just another in a long sequence of battles and things are just going to move on, you know. And I did appreciate, too, that moment at the end where Norman or machine was hiding in the dirt and then that one Nazi soldiers saw him and decided not, because again, it's like,

Starting point is 00:16:33 hey, there's other, you know, from their perspective, there's other soldiers on their side who kind of were like Norman as well. not everyone is extremely evil. Like a lot of them are, but not everyone, you know, wants to be in war and wants to, you know, murder and annihilate everyone. So I appreciate that one, you know, you know, semblance of David Eyre just trying to say,

Starting point is 00:16:54 hey, not everyone is extremely evil and wants to kill. And also, too, another thing I do want to say, too, we talk about all these great characters that we got from Brad Pitt, John Bernthal, Shia, LaGyloff, Michael Pena, and Logan Lerman. I thought the tank itself was an actual character. and just like and as we pulled away from the tank

Starting point is 00:17:13 like seeing it just laying it was kind of like we lost someone there in it in its own right and it's like a horse like it's like the horse almost and the way that they characterize it by constantly having the barrel with the name poking into frame and like the way they used that like I was

Starting point is 00:17:29 I was quite impressed by this as a feat of like you know again from what I know about David Ayer's career from the things I've seen this far like I was. I was legitimately impressed by what he was able to do here from both a writing

Starting point is 00:17:43 and direction standpoint and every other department in between. I was sitting there marveling going like, man, what must this have been like to shoot? And a movie like this especially is an undertaking and is going to be arduous no matter what. Like, I have

Starting point is 00:17:59 to imagine that even if you're probably not spending that much on locations in particular, you have somebody just like no man's lands and countryside, but just like the undertaking of all the rest of it has to be such they already make a bunch of you know like comparisons to how like a film crew is kind of like an army you know and this was one of those things where yeah there's there's no glamour but there are moments of beauty

Starting point is 00:18:25 and there's not it doesn't feel like a fantasy or like a rah-rah kind of thing you know it's like there are those moments but even when he's you know screaming well even when machine by the end is, you know, screaming, like, fuck you Nazi bastards. You know, like, even that stuff still feels like part of the greater theme of like, this is, in the moment, it's what you need to do to forget about all the other things that are just going to lock you up and, you know, probably get you dead. And, yeah, I just love the gray with which this operated its whole thing. And then, yeah, having these two, you know, really tense, but also tender centerpiece scenes where,

Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah, there's the one upstairs with the girls and then there's the other scene with everybody in the tank. Yeah, I thought this managed to avoid feeling cliche or like there's like too much idealization or magic. And then when you get to that moment at the end when the other soldier is checking under the tank and you can see the wheels turning

Starting point is 00:19:27 and then finally he's caught up by the others and decides to leave, it's just the right, at least for me, the right amount of that peripheral magic, that carmatic, inexplicable thing of like, even though you have been forced to learn past this point, that instinct serves you well. And I did think that, yeah, even though, uh, Grady or whatever the John Bernthal character's name was, you know, is like the worst guy out of all of them. And that moment in there doesn't redeem him. It does, like, fully, it does show you the human

Starting point is 00:20:00 that exists within and it does speak to how harsh and, and messy all of, this is and hey maybe this guy wouldn't even be that good on a normal day without all this trauma compounding but still that little moment of like you know i don't think any of us are good but i think you're a good person and jokes aside after watching this film and again like i said i haven't seen too many david air films but jokes aside after watching this ensemble piece i can have i understand why warner brothers would want to have david air do suicide squad again this actually makes me how really want to see. I mean, not that I didn't before, but it really does make me want to see that just to get like his true vision. Because he has said for many years now that that was

Starting point is 00:20:45 really his version. So, but after watching this, like I said, I truly want to see that film a lot more now because the few films we have seen together of David Ayers from a writing perspective, like you said, just he knows how to compile just human, raw human emotion, sympathy, and just I love his themes that he does in his film. So I, like many of you, I'm not a very huge fan of the theatrical cut of Suicide Squad. So if that... We don't need to flog that.

Starting point is 00:21:14 No, I know. I'm just saying if we ever do get that version, I'd be very interested one day because the other films of his that I have seen, I really enjoy. So I'm very curious. That is to say, not everyone makes a perfect film every day of the week.

Starting point is 00:21:30 So, yeah. I mean, it could also be a flawed film as well. I don't know. but I this definitely It certainly seems like something that would be much more soulful and thoughtful. The only point I'm making is

Starting point is 00:21:39 this definitely makes me more intrigued than David Ayers sympathizing words that he gives us every day on Twitter about being his own film but I again I really enjoyed this very gritty emotional

Starting point is 00:21:54 just camaraderie take on World War II I would assume yeah in a tank like I'm not used to seeing tank movies where like and granted there's a lot other kinds of combat, but you do have, like, there's that one, especially, you know, pro-law, you know, gripping set piece where, yeah, they are just tank fighting on the

Starting point is 00:22:13 ground and they're losing left and right. And, and yeah, like, you know, it's something like this. I mean, this seems, I associate David A. are the most with ground level, you know, grungy crime movies, which those speak to me the most in terms of, like, what suicides, like watching training dams, like, man, the guy wrote this, what Suicide Squad could have been. But this also speaks to, you know, the scope and the effect, like, you know, this is effects heavy in terms of just all of the, and again, it's harsh and it's hard to look at, but the carnage and the squibs and, and the way all that is realized and the way that it is both punctuated, but also like super normalized by the situation through the depiction, you know, is, yeah, like, this speaks to a filmmaker that I am very excited to, like, see more from. to dive into the works of and it gives me that sort of like this is just another boost

Starting point is 00:23:09 to the sort of like, well, if David Ayer's got some coming out, I'll probably want to at least check it out, you know? Well, congrats, Jonald. You're going to see a one of my films soon. That's true. Well, gang, Fury, we did it. We lived through this. Yes, we did. Quite striking. I think it will be

Starting point is 00:23:25 on my mind for some time to come. Thank you, Andrew. I'm glad we got to share this together. Thank you, John, too. We've been bonded by fire. We've both Got to, you know, comment below, what's our war names that we have definitely, definitely not earned in life? But, yeah, thank you guys so much for watching. Leave us your thoughts down below. And, yeah, just be well.

Starting point is 00:23:46 Hug your loved ones, and we'll catch you on the next one. Much love.

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The Reel Rejects - FURY (2014) MOVIE REVIEW! FIRST TIME WATCHING!

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