The Reel Rejects - GHOSTBUSTERS: FROZEN EMPIRE (2024) IS A CHILLINGLY FUN RIDE!! MOVIE REVIEW!!
Episode Date: November 29, 2025THE GHOSTBUSTERS FACE A CHILLING NEW THREAT!! Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire Full Movie Reaction Watch Along: / thereelrejects With Finn Wolhard returning in Stranger Things 5 & McKenna Grace i...n the upcoming Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping, Tara & Johnald RETURN to give their Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, Ending Explained & Spoiler Review! Tara Erickson & John Humphrey react to Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire (2024), the spooky, funny, & surprisingly heartfelt horror-comedy sequel directed by Gil Kenan (Monster House, Poltergeist 2015) that brings two generations of Ghostbusters back to where it all started: New York City. Set 3 years after Afterlife, the Spengler family relocates to the classic Firehouse to rebuild the team — only to unleash an ancient evil capable of freezing the world with fear itself. Paul Rudd (Ant-Man, Clueless) returns as Gary Grooberson, now fully suited up as a Ghostbuster alongside Carrie Coon (The Leftovers, Gone Girl) as Callie Spengler. McKenna Grace (The Haunting of Hill House, Captain Marvel) shines as Phoebe Spengler, whose underage status sidelines her — leading to a fateful friendship with Melody, played by Emily Alyn Lind (Fear Street) that ties directly into the film’s chilling mystery. The young crew is rounded out by Finn Wolfhard (Stranger Things, IT) as Trevor Spengler, Celeste O’Connor (Freaky, Madame Web) as Lucky Domingo, and Logan Kim (Afterlife, Home Sweet Home Alone) as Podcast. New faces include Kumail Nanjiani (Eternals, The Big Sick) as quirky fire-master Nadeem Razmaadi, Patton Oswalt (Ratatouille, The Sandman) as occult expert Dr. Hubert Wartzki, & James Acaster (Cinderella 2021, Repertoire) as tech wizard Dr. Lars Pinfield. And of course the legends are back: Bill Murray (Groundhog Day, Lost in Translation) as Peter Venkman, Dan Aykroyd (Blues Brothers, Driving Miss Daisy) as Ray Stantz, Ernie Hudson (The Crow, Oz) as Winston Zeddemore, Annie Potts (Pretty in Pink, Toy Story) as Janine Melnitz, and William Atherton (Die Hard, Real Genius) as Walter Peck. Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad: Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM: FB: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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And the internet woes
And oh my goodness
No way
And hey maybe it'll be snowing by the time we got out of the frozen empire
because it's time.
We got a little fun.
Want me to give my quick thoughts
before I go to questions so then I can pee
after my quick thoughts?
Yes, give your quick thoughts.
This works.
I will.
This works.
Slimer was a puppet and there were some Garaka puppets too.
There was.
Okay, you called that.
So I just want to point that out.
This is a puppetry going on.
We love to see it.
We like that.
We like the practical stuff.
I thought the pacing of this movie,
especially right at the top,
I knew that I was like, cool, the way the pacing is in the beginning, that I was going to like the rest of the pacing, and I did.
I found it quite enjoyable for it being closer to our movie, I wasn't like, oh, God, when is it?
I feel the time.
I wasn't, I didn't.
I was very excited between the relationship with Phoebe and Callie.
I like how they grew the relationship with Phoebe and her dad, now she calls him dad, which I really, really love.
I thought that was super cute.
And I like the backstory of where we're going to.
with the brass and the grandma like i didn't think he was going to go anywhere with like i thought he was just
going to be like that was just a charming cam yeah but then it was like a huge his plot to the story and i really
liked that i thought it was a lot of fun i enjoyed it yeah surprisingly i remember this coming out i remember
being a little less than interested at the time and i remember people being less enthusiastic about
this than about afterlife and generally this kind of not carrying over the same charm and goodwill
that Afterlife reclaimed after all the Ghostbusters, 2016 stuff.
Or you look at Ghostbusters, the weirder trajectory of, yeah, quality and fan response.
I was surprised to how much I enjoyed this, actually.
This was really fun.
Like, I liked Afterlife more watching it with you this past time than I remember liking it the first time.
Although, in ways, weirdly enough, as much as I like the natural sort of like, oh, yeah, we're doing a little bit more of a domestic drama with this family, and we're doing a little bit more of the Amblin flavor with.
the wonder and stuff uh you know it's like i like what they went for with that movie but this uh i just
had like a lot more effortless fun with and like even when characters would disappear for a while
i didn't really like think too much about it because they made it a big ensemble piece you got new
characters you got old characters right and i thought if as long as we're going to intermingle
those two things in perpetuity this is actually a pretty fun version of that and i liked
yeah that it was a little bit more cartoony in some ways i liked that it was a little bit more spooky
and sinister in some ways
occasionally stuff happens where you're like
I don't know if I
I don't know because the original Ghostbusters
has a specific aesthetic and you know
if you add to that
some stuff feels very much akin to
and totally like it would have
could have stemmed out of that first movie
some stuff feels a little bit more maybe like a stretch
or like it exists in some kind of other aesthetic
but like not too much
like this yeah it's a little bit
long it's a nearly two hour
movie. But I thought everybody did a good job in it. I liked the Phoebe ghost sort of romance
storyline. I thought that was just like a neat idea. Like you definitely feel them throwing a lot
of stuff into this. And it's definitely like a hijinks based movie. There's a lot of stuff
going on. But I liked the new characters. That guy who reminded me of the real Ghostbusters,
the British guy. He was really fun. I loved him. I liked Cumao. I liked Patton's
scene. Like yeah. Yeah, you called that. This was a yeah, a lot more enjoyable.
and fun than I expected honestly. I do think podcast
was underutilized. Like, he was
not as much, like, he
was so funny and
afterlife. Remember how we were like... He was a standout
character. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And now I'm like,
I don't know why they just threw him in the corner and they didn't
like, it's the same writers from the last
one to this one. And I'm like, maybe
it's because he's older and they just didn't think
they could give him the same kind of lines.
It wouldn't come off as cute and funny. But I
think he was underutilized. Yeah,
and I liked him and Ray together. Like, as
you know, like, oh, they were working together and stuff like that for
the summer. I liked how they
managed to get everyone in there
and yeah, we do some nodding to the past and hey
you know, Janine gets to suit up this time
and like yeah. But yeah, all that stuff
felt kind of apropos of this kind of
mad cap adventure and
yeah, I liked this weird ice motif
as wild as it is to start
a Ghostbusters movie of any kind
with a passage from friggin Robert
Frost poetry.
At the same time. I had forgotten about it, but now
that works. You know, and like the whole firemaster
thing is like, okay, yes, we're doing another
gatekeeper keymaster but as much as part of me was like okay so like ghostbusters have endured
as like a concept throughout like the ages like in a way i kind of get it i like that whole stone
thing they did with the backstory and yeah like for as much as uh there is some some hammy silliness
in here uh i kind of do prefer that to just rehashing the original movie wholesale like
after life kind of did in yeah we have to upgrade like the same third act as goes
muster's one.
Totally.
So this was like,
hey,
even if some of this
stuff they came up with
that was new
was like a maybe
felt a little bit
strange or whatever
at first glance.
I was like,
well,
these are coming up
with something new.
Yeah,
like we're in the 2000s now.
You got to change it a little.
Yeah.
And so like if they do
another one,
I'm like,
you know, again,
the tease is just like,
oh,
a little stay puff guys.
Well, they'll always be a part of those.
But yeah,
if they ever do another one of these,
I hope that they maybe
at least follow these instinct.
Because yeah,
liked weird ghost romance
and I liked
crazy frozen empire guy actually instead of just doing
Zool all over again or gozer I should say I was done with Zool to be
honest so yeah yeah but yeah you want to get some questions
let's do it let's do it all righty Jaden Rhodes
I was disappointed but I'm not disappointed that you commented I'm glad that you're here
thank you for chiming in I was disappointed when I first watched this movie but I have
since rewatched this movie and have found enjoyment in it I still prefer afterlife
that movie in my opinion just nails me
in a Ghostbusters movie.
This one I think
leans more into the comedy and bits
which kind of puts the story on the back burner.
Would you all agree?
Or do you all have a different opinion
on the story?
Hmm.
I might agree a little bit with that.
I do miss the comedic bits
from podcaster though.
Like I will say that.
And sure, there is,
I get how they're recalling characters in here
and we all had to fight together
and there is some comedic bits about it.
But they didn't stand out that much to me
or drag, like, I felt like, to me, it was good.
I do think it could have been, you know, 20 minutes less, but...
This is almost two hours, yeah, I think to stick to 90 minutes for a Ghostbuster thing, but,
uh, yeah, that's my opinion.
What do you think this got around to me?
Um, let's do critic audience real quick.
Okay. Yeah, let's go critics 69 and audience 72.
Okay, fine. Let's, uh, I'll say, uh,
audiences you know your your your your guesses are so good i'm just i would have guessed what your
guesses are really i just we're just going to both lock in your guests okay let's see oh it's got
42% from critics wow 81% from audiences all right ghostbusters frozen empire the consensus says
offers a certain amount of nostalgia field fun for fans of the original but a crowded cast and
surprisingly serious tone prevent this sequel from truly sparking interesting see yeah
I noticed that this, yeah, didn't carry on the same goodwill as afterlife.
And it's weird because I really like the idea of afterlife.
I like that movie, especially, again, as of our previous viewing.
I don't know.
It's weird.
Like, this feels slightly more unified to me, I guess, because again, the first, because
afterlife has that, like, first two-thirds that are, like, very much sort of, like,
a sort of more intimate, more family-based, you know, coming-of-age drama.
thing that, again, has like this sort of amblin-esque take on the actual Ghostbusters iconography
and lore and stuff.
This is not that.
I mean, yeah, it's like the first, the afterlife, that is like the first two thirds and the
last third becomes like, oh, we're doing the Ghostbusters finale again, but on a mountain
instead of a building.
So it's weird.
It's like, I appreciated what they did there, and I like that that was different.
And I liked the sort of commitment to that and the sort of heartfelt nature.
that afterlife doesn't 100% like clinch it that to me it gets really close and I think that
there is something very sweet about that but I also don't know if you could do that again and I feel
like changing it up for the second version of this cruise Ghostbusters movie worked for me and yeah
I definitely noticed up top that it was more broad and more comedy oriented more jokey and
more heightened of character but it kept doing that and for my personal
taste, I think they managed to kind of bounce that off of the horror in a way that, you know,
it's like the horror is given a sinister tone, but you do have characters that are at least
to some degree heightened and, you know, sarcastic.
And I didn't think that they were so silly of character that there were no stakes.
And I didn't think that the darkness of the movie was too dark, although once you get to the,
you know, finale fight, it is a little bit like, oh, I feel like.
again, we're in a bit of a superhero movie
where it's like now the action scale is
a little different and
you know, the demon
guy, Garrick, whatever
his name is, is not
whimsical. He's more
just like a menacing monster guy, which
is cool. And I think the thing
that like Gozer and obviously the giant
stay puffed have is that they're still like a little flamboyant
to look at and they're still kind of
like wild imagery.
So that's a little bit
you know, this isn't a perfect movie.
will say but I do yeah appreciate the blend of horror and comedy here and I at least felt like
they were trying to do have fun with it and branch a little further out rather than yeah zeroing in
like the tone of afterlife is a branch out because of the drama aspects but uh you know in a lot
of ways I don't feel like that movie branched out from like the concepts of Ghostbusters as much as
this did for me but yeah I can certainly get why people who love afterlife would not
about this and uh you know that's a i think because i like but don't necessarily love afterlife that's
why this was able to sneak in and charm me and i also had these expectations because i knew people
didn't love this movie at the outset um so yeah i have a bit of a different opinion but i i appreciate
you know where you're coming from too sonya arif thank you for chiming in i was excited about
the movie because the trailer looked great and was excited to watch james a castor or or a castor i'm
not sure how's the last name is pronounced a great british comedian uh who plays lars but was disappointed
both by the little screen time he has and not having the whole town frozen by ice for a little longer
anytime you watched a casting you were excited by only to be disappointed um just up top just real
quick i think james a castor did a great job uh like i would like more of his character and i was
sad that he disappeared when the little roly-poly guy you know the encounters him at the end and slimes him
so I wish he was more involved
and yes this is a jammed movie
with a lot of extra characters and stuff
I liked them all
but yes the problem there
is that they don't all get the time
they deserve necessarily
and I was particularly excited
just by his presence
so I mean
but I don't know of a single cat
like I'm trying to think of an instance
that matches this movie
but I will say the first thing
that comes to mind is
the Hobbit trilogy
I was like oh my God
freaking Martin Freeman is like
who I was hoping could be a Bilbo
before that was even a twinkle in anyone's eye
and there's a lot of great casting in those movies
but that trilogy just is not
what I hoped
what I hoped it as one or maybe two movies
could have been as a Hobbit
as a big fan of the Hobbit as a kid
yeah that didn't pan out
as much as my excitement for
the casting in there
promised
I don't I did like the James 8 castor
I would say because we
you know my memories shite.
I did just get done watching,
it was like Terminator 4 or something
where it's Christian Bale
and I was like, wait, what?
And then no Arnie.
And, you know, I love Christian Bail.
There's parts of it that just having him in it
did save that movie.
But for it not to be Arnold,
it was a disappointment.
So I'll throw that in there.
All right, all right.
Leave us yours, folks, down below.
And leave us some good James Acaster stuff to check out.
Because, yeah, he was very charming.
And I wonder, comment below Ghostbusters, cartoon fans, if he was supposed to look like that character.
It sure looked like it.
Maurice Great Jr., Ghostbusters Frozen Empire.
I liked it.
But I think AfterLife did a better job of reviving this franchise.
Do you think it was necessary to have this sequel?
No, but it was fun.
Yeah.
You know, is it necessary to ever make a sequel?
I guess the necessity of any movie is always like a trigger is this weird.
domino conversation where you're like is any movie necessary yeah um i don't know i don't necessarily
know if afterlife was 100% necessary but uh yeah i i liked i respect and appreciate the earnest
commitment they put into afterlife uh you know for following this family and creating yeah
like a relatable dramatic unit even if some of that stuff i felt could have been a little
better served in a movie that had a third act that matched the first two a little bit more um but
having said that, I get why people would be upset that this movie doesn't take that side of the tone as heavily or as seriously or isn't very much concerned with that.
I thought this was a really fun way to kind of branch off from that. I think if you want the drama, yeah, that's definitely missing. This is definitely wackier. But I, you know, because we've been through the gamut of all the different tones, the Ghostbusters franchise has the offer. And now that I'm sort of like, we're so far beyond like redoing what the original one was, I'm like, yeah, this was fine. This was fun.
And as an episodic, it's weird.
I think if a Ghostbusters are going to survive into the future,
I almost feel like it's very fun to have the original cast for as long as we can.
And I like the way they included them here in some ways more than in the previous one.
Correct.
I will say that I think stuff like this where it's kind of unrelated and it's just episodic
and it's just the Ghostbusters world and tech and iconography and all that stuff
kind of is the key to keeping this thing alive.
like the less you tether yourself to like,
oh my God, it's Shandor, it's this or it's that
or it's all, it's these guys.
You know, Ghostbusters is lucky enough that while the original
cast is so much of the magic, it's not
the only part of the magic, so
so yeah, I don't know.
I don't know that the actual
answer to your question is.
I guess afterlife must have done a better
job reviving this because people liked it more.
Yeah. But I think this was fun.
It's a good time.
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I think this sequel, the one thing, a quick thing I'll say, is just sequels always comes from up top when you see the success of what came before.
How can we further the branding and get more money?
Captain Fernandez, thanks for chiming in.
I'm not a fan of this entry.
It felt plot heavy and sacrificed what I view as the hallmarks of the series, dry, sarcastic humor, and team dynamic in favor of even more nostalgia and an epic scope.
Would you like to see the original series
Continue its current path
Go for a hard reboot or do a modern remake of the original?
That's a really hard question
I think we pitched last time
I wanted to do like a you like a what we do
In the Shadows-esque like mockumentary
Found Footage Ghostbusters movie
I think that would actually be pretty fun
Yes I
The thing about this movie for me
Is that watching all of these in some tight succession
You start to realize like
Okay this isn't the first time
We've flirted with a more epic scope
because definitely 2016 goes that way
and I don't know
there are elements of the first movie
that helped create the sky beam
and stuff like that
this is definitely like
yeah way more shit happening
way more hijinks way more like stuff
to do and deal with
so I don't know
like it's weird they definitely brought back
the dry sarcastic humor
but it's definitely more modern than the old type of humor
is really hard to say
I think if you want to go
continue it on I think we have to let go
of some of the preciousness.
It's nice to have these installments
that are very reverent to the original,
but I think if we're going to continue this thing,
we should embrace the spectrum
and maybe look toward the extended media.
I know a lot of people love the cartoon
and, you know, as much as we can't agree
on most any of the sequels,
except maybe afterlife, you know?
Yeah.
I think, yeah, just,
yeah, untether yourself from nostalgia
beyond the core motifs of the universe.
And, yeah, I guess,
this whole time we've been trying to figure out like how do we do ghostbusters again the whole thing about
the first movie is it like it's yeah it's a little bit of a slackers versus jocks comedy it's a bit of
a horror movie a little bit it's got a bunch of people who are on script and one guy who's doing a bunch of
improv like it's so hard to capture what that was i feel like we got to let go of that and not think so
hard about it and maybe you know be a little more open to a range of things within our ghostbusters
because at this point redoing the original one over and over again is going to you know not be as
fun anyway. Yeah. No, no, no. I agree. I'm like, yeah, it is we are where we are. I don't think
this sequel was necessary, but I don't think it was terrible. But I did. Afterlife is more what you're
saying is like a modern remake a little bit of the original. Yeah, you could try a remake. I don't know.
At this point, try whatever. See if it works. And you can always try again in a few years.
J. Dell, Ghostbusters, Frozen Empire. Hi, John.
Tara, thank you for chiming in. If you got to
join the Ghostbuster team in Frozen Empire, what would your
custom ghost gadget be called? And what
would it do? I feel like I'd invent something
ridiculous like a Spector Sucker
3,000 that only half
works.
I would... I would create a ghost
guitar. Oh, I like that.
The harder you shred, the more
suction you can get into your amplifier
that also is a trap.
That's good, John. That's my ghost.
I would just call it. The...
Or an actual soul-catching
camera. If you can get it on camera
that's fun. Hell yeah.
I mean, he has gadgets. I just
had name. I was like the juice catcher.
Then you will name my
gadgets. There we have it.
There we go. I'll think on it.
Catch yourself some juice catchers. Kev B.
Leave us yours too down below. I want to hear
your pitches. Kev B. Ghostbusters
Frozen Empire Nails. That classic Ghostbusters vibe. For me,
God, somebody likes it in here. Even if it feels
a bit crowded, sometimes it definitely does. It's definitely
a bit overlong. It's definitely stuffed with stuff.
if you could borrow one ghost busting gadget
from the movie for a day
which one are you grabbing first
oh god
is there that many
there's the wrist rocket
there's the little RC car
there's the drone
whatever that new thing was
that she was working on
Lucky was working on
I don't know man there's so many cool ones
I guess I want the wrist rocket
okay you take the drone I'll take the wrist rocket
and then we'll go back and rewatch that lab
scene yeah see what other cool shit
exactly all right j rushden uh oh looka kaka like finally annie pot's character as a ghostbuster
absolutely was definitely one of those things where i'm like okay chewy gets a metal everyone
gets to suit up we're doing it we're checking off all the boxes but i would be lying if i said i
didn't get a kick out of it question uh what city would make for a sequel uh and imagine
ghost cats there uh okay so yeah we're she the ghostbuster ghostbusters LA baby
Yeah, that's what we're talking about.
Ghostbusters, L.A., or follow James A. Caster to Ghostbusters, London.
That's true.
Make my, what we do in the shadows.
Bring it to L.A.
And all the cats are in it.
Ghostbusters, Miami.
That's also a very, very good call.
Get you a ghost gator.
Pitch yours down below, peeps.
Let's see.
Awesome, Joe.
Movie reviews.
Awesome.
Joe, this movie feels too cluttered with characters and the story felt too complicated to follow.
I understand this is one of those legacy characters passing the torch.
over to modern day generation but if you ask me i like it when it was it's just its own thing as a team of
scientists capturing ghosts why isn't that uh why isn't it that simple to do i feel the studios
are trying too hard to gain an audience with too much happening all at once any thoughts thanks for
your time i don't know it's weird like the last uh installment before this was much more stripped back
much more simple uh in this one i could feel i guess the fun for me being that uh they were at least
doing that thing where you dive into some folklore and you're bringing in
you know, a bunch of old traditions and superstitions and, you know, yeah, it had enough of that stuff to me where the, you know, plot heavy nature wasn't such a cumbersome thing. And two, I mean, so much of the original is like people bouncing off the plot, you know, is our comedic personalities bouncing off the plot. So while I will not ever say that this is like the exact copy or revival of the original Ghostbusters tone that everyone's looking for, uh, you know,
You know, I think your question is a good one.
Why isn't it that simple?
Because the original movie is deceptively simple.
I think the original movie is a way more complex soup of things that maybe shouldn't have worked and did.
And, uh, yeah.
They're trying to try something new.
Yeah.
So I just, I was charmed personally by what was happening here and by everyone's involvement,
even though I can fully admit that yes, the ensemble involvement was not as well rounded as the
previous ones.
Yeah.
And yes, there's like a ton of stuff going on.
You could cut time out of this.
but yeah for my personal taste
I was very charmed and as like a big
cartoony bombastic continuation
with some slightly new motifs
added in I was satisfied
but I think yeah it's like the original one
how do you ever do that again
and I think we gotta stop trying so hard
to do that again yeah I feel
like when you say like the studio is trying
too hard to gain an audience it's always
going to be the case but the thing is
is that since afterlife
we have this it's still the same writer
so my assumption is you know you're
you're given less of a leash when you move on
and you've had a very good movie.
So I feel like it may not be as much studio here
as it would be writing and just trying to get around
how do we make this new and not the same?
Yeah.
Because it is a very simple concept,
but we can't just keep doing the same thing, right?
Running around town, catching ghosts,
there has to be some sort of a switch up.
So it's just going to continue to get harder
and less simple, unless they find a way to meld that
and still make it seem new and fresh,
it's a tough spot to be in as like a writer
and a director where they're going like,
how do we make this fresh for them?
So I think it's more of that, less of the studio.
Yeah, you've got to think of what types of personalities
do we have the first time?
We had four distinct members of the Ghostbuster team.
How did we do the ghosts?
there were a mix of practical things and
cutting edge vis effects
that's important you can't just do CG
and then yeah you have
an irreverent you know
work almost workplace comedy
but with a horror element involved like it's
you got to kind of strip it back to
the yeah the core
like yeah the core spiritual
elements in a way and I feel like
everything since the original
has struggled in a way to sort of
fill that void or perfectly
nail that soup down
all right we got a speed round of some fun and trivia-tastic thoughts and feelings here jaden roads
joining us again i'm curious if you all think there's too much comedy because i think afterlife
it's such a good blend of it but this one goes full comedy in my opinion it does for sure and
i think after afterlife uh that worked for me i think the drama was represented with the feeby
character in a fun and interesting way that yes was a bit separate from the rest of the plot that
is an issue i could imagine people having with it but as much as this one definitely did
did feel like it was dialing up the comedy.
I didn't feel like it lost any sense of drama
or spookiness. And I don't
think you could just redo the same
tone of afterlife again and have
the same returns. I think you would have to change the tone
a little. Let's
go. J. Dell.
If you discovered that strange ancient
sphere from, I already know the answer to this one,
from Frozen Empire and realized it could unleash
an ice age level ghost
would you lock it away
or open it just a tiny bit out of curiosity
to see what kind of spirit was inside. Locking that
shit.
That bitch in the closet.
Take that back to Nadim's Jaddy's little room, put it in there, close it up, fill that thing with cement, more brass, whatever.
We're out of here.
All right.
And then a fun fact from J. Dell to keep filming secret.
The movie used the code name Firehouse, and many of the cast didn't know the full plot until their scenes were shot.
A throwback to how the original 1984 films ghost effects were revealed only in post-production.
That's very fun.
And I felt with the ghost stuff, it did feel like they were doing a little bit more of that blending of effects, especially with slimer.
We've seen a full CG slimer and I'm glad we got some puppetry back in there.
J. Dell goes on to say the production team brought back the original 1984 Acto One sound recordings for the sirens.
So it would match the classic films perfectly.
The wailing, whoop, who you hear is the exact same vintage audio from the first movie.
And let's see.
We got Kev B with a little trivia.
some of the firehouse props like Egon's desk and lab gear
were rebuilt from the original 1984 blueprints and fragments
to make the villain's icy breath
the frozen reactions and the frozen reactions feel real
the set was actually chilled below normal temperatures
so the actor's breath streams and shivers naturally
so the actor's breath steams and shivers naturally
instead of relying only on CGI
and I think those things actually helped build
some goodwill with the movie for me
because after a couple installments
that felt much more CG reliant
this one I thought did nicely
to yeah make the chilling
the cold stuff chilling
and look it looked good
and it was sinister and then yeah people's breath
and yeah people looking like they're really cold like that
translated in a subconscious way
I don't even know if I called it out but I was like yeah
I know they do that sometimes and I'm glad they did
and then and yeah the
slightly more practical ghosts here
and they're pretty fun
so yeah this
this definitely brought back some things
I was happy about. This did some things that
at least charmed me. And yes, I get why this
isn't everyone's favorite, but I
at least appreciate them
branching a little further out in this new
age, if they can, as long as they're still
chained to the nostalgia.
Some nice metanods to that. But yeah, you got any more
thoughts before we get out of here? Good times.
Good times. We'll see if they ever do another Ghostbuster.
Go check out
the Neosisisoriga remix. Okay,
bye.
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