The Reel Rejects - GHOSTBUSTERS: FROZEN EMPIRE (2024) IS A CHILLINGLY FUN RIDE!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

Episode Date: November 29, 2025

THE GHOSTBUSTERS FACE A CHILLING NEW THREAT!! Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire Full Movie Reaction Watch Along:   / thereelrejects   With Finn Wolhard returning in Stranger Things 5 & McKenna Grace i...n the upcoming Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping, Tara & Johnald RETURN to give their Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Analysis, Ending Explained & Spoiler Review! Tara Erickson & John Humphrey react to Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire (2024), the spooky, funny, & surprisingly heartfelt horror-comedy sequel directed by Gil Kenan (Monster House, Poltergeist 2015) that brings two generations of Ghostbusters back to where it all started: New York City. Set 3 years after Afterlife, the Spengler family relocates to the classic Firehouse to rebuild the team — only to unleash an ancient evil capable of freezing the world with fear itself. Paul Rudd (Ant-Man, Clueless) returns as Gary Grooberson, now fully suited up as a Ghostbuster alongside Carrie Coon (The Leftovers, Gone Girl) as Callie Spengler. McKenna Grace (The Haunting of Hill House, Captain Marvel) shines as Phoebe Spengler, whose underage status sidelines her — leading to a fateful friendship with Melody, played by Emily Alyn Lind (Fear Street) that ties directly into the film’s chilling mystery. The young crew is rounded out by Finn Wolfhard (Stranger Things, IT) as Trevor Spengler, Celeste O’Connor (Freaky, Madame Web) as Lucky Domingo, and Logan Kim (Afterlife, Home Sweet Home Alone) as Podcast. New faces include Kumail Nanjiani (Eternals, The Big Sick) as quirky fire-master Nadeem Razmaadi, Patton Oswalt (Ratatouille, The Sandman) as occult expert Dr. Hubert Wartzki, & James Acaster (Cinderella 2021, Repertoire) as tech wizard Dr. Lars Pinfield. And of course the legends are back: Bill Murray (Groundhog Day, Lost in Translation) as Peter Venkman, Dan Aykroyd (Blues Brothers, Driving Miss Daisy) as Ray Stantz, Ernie Hudson (The Crow, Oz) as Winston Zeddemore, Annie Potts (Pretty in Pink, Toy Story) as Janine Melnitz, and William Atherton (Die Hard, Real Genius) as Walter Peck. Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:52 And oh my goodness No way And hey maybe it'll be snowing by the time we got out of the frozen empire because it's time. We got a little fun. Want me to give my quick thoughts before I go to questions so then I can pee after my quick thoughts?
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yes, give your quick thoughts. This works. I will. This works. Slimer was a puppet and there were some Garaka puppets too. There was. Okay, you called that. So I just want to point that out.
Starting point is 00:02:19 This is a puppetry going on. We love to see it. We like that. We like the practical stuff. I thought the pacing of this movie, especially right at the top, I knew that I was like, cool, the way the pacing is in the beginning, that I was going to like the rest of the pacing, and I did. I found it quite enjoyable for it being closer to our movie, I wasn't like, oh, God, when is it?
Starting point is 00:02:39 I feel the time. I wasn't, I didn't. I was very excited between the relationship with Phoebe and Callie. I like how they grew the relationship with Phoebe and her dad, now she calls him dad, which I really, really love. I thought that was super cute. And I like the backstory of where we're going to. with the brass and the grandma like i didn't think he was going to go anywhere with like i thought he was just going to be like that was just a charming cam yeah but then it was like a huge his plot to the story and i really
Starting point is 00:03:05 liked that i thought it was a lot of fun i enjoyed it yeah surprisingly i remember this coming out i remember being a little less than interested at the time and i remember people being less enthusiastic about this than about afterlife and generally this kind of not carrying over the same charm and goodwill that Afterlife reclaimed after all the Ghostbusters, 2016 stuff. Or you look at Ghostbusters, the weirder trajectory of, yeah, quality and fan response. I was surprised to how much I enjoyed this, actually. This was really fun. Like, I liked Afterlife more watching it with you this past time than I remember liking it the first time.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Although, in ways, weirdly enough, as much as I like the natural sort of like, oh, yeah, we're doing a little bit more of a domestic drama with this family, and we're doing a little bit more of the Amblin flavor with. the wonder and stuff uh you know it's like i like what they went for with that movie but this uh i just had like a lot more effortless fun with and like even when characters would disappear for a while i didn't really like think too much about it because they made it a big ensemble piece you got new characters you got old characters right and i thought if as long as we're going to intermingle those two things in perpetuity this is actually a pretty fun version of that and i liked yeah that it was a little bit more cartoony in some ways i liked that it was a little bit more spooky and sinister in some ways
Starting point is 00:04:23 occasionally stuff happens where you're like I don't know if I I don't know because the original Ghostbusters has a specific aesthetic and you know if you add to that some stuff feels very much akin to and totally like it would have could have stemmed out of that first movie
Starting point is 00:04:39 some stuff feels a little bit more maybe like a stretch or like it exists in some kind of other aesthetic but like not too much like this yeah it's a little bit long it's a nearly two hour movie. But I thought everybody did a good job in it. I liked the Phoebe ghost sort of romance storyline. I thought that was just like a neat idea. Like you definitely feel them throwing a lot of stuff into this. And it's definitely like a hijinks based movie. There's a lot of stuff
Starting point is 00:05:07 going on. But I liked the new characters. That guy who reminded me of the real Ghostbusters, the British guy. He was really fun. I loved him. I liked Cumao. I liked Patton's scene. Like yeah. Yeah, you called that. This was a yeah, a lot more enjoyable. and fun than I expected honestly. I do think podcast was underutilized. Like, he was not as much, like, he was so funny and afterlife. Remember how we were like... He was a standout
Starting point is 00:05:30 character. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And now I'm like, I don't know why they just threw him in the corner and they didn't like, it's the same writers from the last one to this one. And I'm like, maybe it's because he's older and they just didn't think they could give him the same kind of lines. It wouldn't come off as cute and funny. But I think he was underutilized. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:05:46 and I liked him and Ray together. Like, as you know, like, oh, they were working together and stuff like that for the summer. I liked how they managed to get everyone in there and yeah, we do some nodding to the past and hey you know, Janine gets to suit up this time and like yeah. But yeah, all that stuff felt kind of apropos of this kind of
Starting point is 00:06:02 mad cap adventure and yeah, I liked this weird ice motif as wild as it is to start a Ghostbusters movie of any kind with a passage from friggin Robert Frost poetry. At the same time. I had forgotten about it, but now that works. You know, and like the whole firemaster
Starting point is 00:06:18 thing is like, okay, yes, we're doing another gatekeeper keymaster but as much as part of me was like okay so like ghostbusters have endured as like a concept throughout like the ages like in a way i kind of get it i like that whole stone thing they did with the backstory and yeah like for as much as uh there is some some hammy silliness in here uh i kind of do prefer that to just rehashing the original movie wholesale like after life kind of did in yeah we have to upgrade like the same third act as goes muster's one. Totally.
Starting point is 00:06:51 So this was like, hey, even if some of this stuff they came up with that was new was like a maybe felt a little bit strange or whatever
Starting point is 00:06:56 at first glance. I was like, well, these are coming up with something new. Yeah, like we're in the 2000s now. You got to change it a little.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Yeah. And so like if they do another one, I'm like, you know, again, the tease is just like, oh, a little stay puff guys.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Well, they'll always be a part of those. But yeah, if they ever do another one of these, I hope that they maybe at least follow these instinct. Because yeah, liked weird ghost romance and I liked
Starting point is 00:07:18 crazy frozen empire guy actually instead of just doing Zool all over again or gozer I should say I was done with Zool to be honest so yeah yeah but yeah you want to get some questions let's do it let's do it all righty Jaden Rhodes I was disappointed but I'm not disappointed that you commented I'm glad that you're here thank you for chiming in I was disappointed when I first watched this movie but I have since rewatched this movie and have found enjoyment in it I still prefer afterlife that movie in my opinion just nails me
Starting point is 00:07:48 in a Ghostbusters movie. This one I think leans more into the comedy and bits which kind of puts the story on the back burner. Would you all agree? Or do you all have a different opinion on the story? Hmm.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I might agree a little bit with that. I do miss the comedic bits from podcaster though. Like I will say that. And sure, there is, I get how they're recalling characters in here and we all had to fight together and there is some comedic bits about it.
Starting point is 00:08:15 But they didn't stand out that much to me or drag, like, I felt like, to me, it was good. I do think it could have been, you know, 20 minutes less, but... This is almost two hours, yeah, I think to stick to 90 minutes for a Ghostbuster thing, but, uh, yeah, that's my opinion. What do you think this got around to me? Um, let's do critic audience real quick. Okay. Yeah, let's go critics 69 and audience 72.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Okay, fine. Let's, uh, I'll say, uh, audiences you know your your your your guesses are so good i'm just i would have guessed what your guesses are really i just we're just going to both lock in your guests okay let's see oh it's got 42% from critics wow 81% from audiences all right ghostbusters frozen empire the consensus says offers a certain amount of nostalgia field fun for fans of the original but a crowded cast and surprisingly serious tone prevent this sequel from truly sparking interesting see yeah I noticed that this, yeah, didn't carry on the same goodwill as afterlife. And it's weird because I really like the idea of afterlife.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I like that movie, especially, again, as of our previous viewing. I don't know. It's weird. Like, this feels slightly more unified to me, I guess, because again, the first, because afterlife has that, like, first two-thirds that are, like, very much sort of, like, a sort of more intimate, more family-based, you know, coming-of-age drama. thing that, again, has like this sort of amblin-esque take on the actual Ghostbusters iconography and lore and stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:56 This is not that. I mean, yeah, it's like the first, the afterlife, that is like the first two thirds and the last third becomes like, oh, we're doing the Ghostbusters finale again, but on a mountain instead of a building. So it's weird. It's like, I appreciated what they did there, and I like that that was different. And I liked the sort of commitment to that and the sort of heartfelt nature. that afterlife doesn't 100% like clinch it that to me it gets really close and I think that
Starting point is 00:10:26 there is something very sweet about that but I also don't know if you could do that again and I feel like changing it up for the second version of this cruise Ghostbusters movie worked for me and yeah I definitely noticed up top that it was more broad and more comedy oriented more jokey and more heightened of character but it kept doing that and for my personal taste, I think they managed to kind of bounce that off of the horror in a way that, you know, it's like the horror is given a sinister tone, but you do have characters that are at least to some degree heightened and, you know, sarcastic. And I didn't think that they were so silly of character that there were no stakes.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And I didn't think that the darkness of the movie was too dark, although once you get to the, you know, finale fight, it is a little bit like, oh, I feel like. again, we're in a bit of a superhero movie where it's like now the action scale is a little different and you know, the demon guy, Garrick, whatever his name is, is not
Starting point is 00:11:29 whimsical. He's more just like a menacing monster guy, which is cool. And I think the thing that like Gozer and obviously the giant stay puffed have is that they're still like a little flamboyant to look at and they're still kind of like wild imagery. So that's a little bit
Starting point is 00:11:46 you know, this isn't a perfect movie. will say but I do yeah appreciate the blend of horror and comedy here and I at least felt like they were trying to do have fun with it and branch a little further out rather than yeah zeroing in like the tone of afterlife is a branch out because of the drama aspects but uh you know in a lot of ways I don't feel like that movie branched out from like the concepts of Ghostbusters as much as this did for me but yeah I can certainly get why people who love afterlife would not about this and uh you know that's a i think because i like but don't necessarily love afterlife that's why this was able to sneak in and charm me and i also had these expectations because i knew people
Starting point is 00:12:28 didn't love this movie at the outset um so yeah i have a bit of a different opinion but i i appreciate you know where you're coming from too sonya arif thank you for chiming in i was excited about the movie because the trailer looked great and was excited to watch james a castor or or a castor i'm not sure how's the last name is pronounced a great british comedian uh who plays lars but was disappointed both by the little screen time he has and not having the whole town frozen by ice for a little longer anytime you watched a casting you were excited by only to be disappointed um just up top just real quick i think james a castor did a great job uh like i would like more of his character and i was sad that he disappeared when the little roly-poly guy you know the encounters him at the end and slimes him
Starting point is 00:13:13 so I wish he was more involved and yes this is a jammed movie with a lot of extra characters and stuff I liked them all but yes the problem there is that they don't all get the time they deserve necessarily and I was particularly excited
Starting point is 00:13:24 just by his presence so I mean but I don't know of a single cat like I'm trying to think of an instance that matches this movie but I will say the first thing that comes to mind is the Hobbit trilogy
Starting point is 00:13:36 I was like oh my God freaking Martin Freeman is like who I was hoping could be a Bilbo before that was even a twinkle in anyone's eye and there's a lot of great casting in those movies but that trilogy just is not what I hoped what I hoped it as one or maybe two movies
Starting point is 00:13:56 could have been as a Hobbit as a big fan of the Hobbit as a kid yeah that didn't pan out as much as my excitement for the casting in there promised I don't I did like the James 8 castor I would say because we
Starting point is 00:14:12 you know my memories shite. I did just get done watching, it was like Terminator 4 or something where it's Christian Bale and I was like, wait, what? And then no Arnie. And, you know, I love Christian Bail. There's parts of it that just having him in it
Starting point is 00:14:28 did save that movie. But for it not to be Arnold, it was a disappointment. So I'll throw that in there. All right, all right. Leave us yours, folks, down below. And leave us some good James Acaster stuff to check out. Because, yeah, he was very charming.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And I wonder, comment below Ghostbusters, cartoon fans, if he was supposed to look like that character. It sure looked like it. Maurice Great Jr., Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. I liked it. But I think AfterLife did a better job of reviving this franchise. Do you think it was necessary to have this sequel? No, but it was fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You know, is it necessary to ever make a sequel? I guess the necessity of any movie is always like a trigger is this weird. domino conversation where you're like is any movie necessary yeah um i don't know i don't necessarily know if afterlife was 100% necessary but uh yeah i i liked i respect and appreciate the earnest commitment they put into afterlife uh you know for following this family and creating yeah like a relatable dramatic unit even if some of that stuff i felt could have been a little better served in a movie that had a third act that matched the first two a little bit more um but having said that, I get why people would be upset that this movie doesn't take that side of the tone as heavily or as seriously or isn't very much concerned with that.
Starting point is 00:15:51 I thought this was a really fun way to kind of branch off from that. I think if you want the drama, yeah, that's definitely missing. This is definitely wackier. But I, you know, because we've been through the gamut of all the different tones, the Ghostbusters franchise has the offer. And now that I'm sort of like, we're so far beyond like redoing what the original one was, I'm like, yeah, this was fine. This was fun. And as an episodic, it's weird. I think if a Ghostbusters are going to survive into the future, I almost feel like it's very fun to have the original cast for as long as we can. And I like the way they included them here in some ways more than in the previous one. Correct. I will say that I think stuff like this where it's kind of unrelated and it's just episodic and it's just the Ghostbusters world and tech and iconography and all that stuff
Starting point is 00:16:38 kind of is the key to keeping this thing alive. like the less you tether yourself to like, oh my God, it's Shandor, it's this or it's that or it's all, it's these guys. You know, Ghostbusters is lucky enough that while the original cast is so much of the magic, it's not the only part of the magic, so so yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I don't know that the actual answer to your question is. I guess afterlife must have done a better job reviving this because people liked it more. Yeah. But I think this was fun. It's a good time. Fellow Reject, Greg from an alternate timeline is here to let you know
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Starting point is 00:17:54 You can scan this barcode right here on screen. If you're interested, or go to the link in the description box and pin comment. If you end up not buying one, that's a okay. I'm just glad they exist so now I can be wearing them. Let's get back to the video, people. I think this sequel, the one thing, a quick thing I'll say, is just sequels always comes from up top when you see the success of what came before. How can we further the branding and get more money? Captain Fernandez, thanks for chiming in. I'm not a fan of this entry.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It felt plot heavy and sacrificed what I view as the hallmarks of the series, dry, sarcastic humor, and team dynamic in favor of even more nostalgia and an epic scope. Would you like to see the original series Continue its current path Go for a hard reboot or do a modern remake of the original? That's a really hard question I think we pitched last time I wanted to do like a you like a what we do In the Shadows-esque like mockumentary
Starting point is 00:18:49 Found Footage Ghostbusters movie I think that would actually be pretty fun Yes I The thing about this movie for me Is that watching all of these in some tight succession You start to realize like Okay this isn't the first time We've flirted with a more epic scope
Starting point is 00:19:04 because definitely 2016 goes that way and I don't know there are elements of the first movie that helped create the sky beam and stuff like that this is definitely like yeah way more shit happening way more hijinks way more like stuff
Starting point is 00:19:19 to do and deal with so I don't know like it's weird they definitely brought back the dry sarcastic humor but it's definitely more modern than the old type of humor is really hard to say I think if you want to go continue it on I think we have to let go
Starting point is 00:19:34 of some of the preciousness. It's nice to have these installments that are very reverent to the original, but I think if we're going to continue this thing, we should embrace the spectrum and maybe look toward the extended media. I know a lot of people love the cartoon and, you know, as much as we can't agree
Starting point is 00:19:50 on most any of the sequels, except maybe afterlife, you know? Yeah. I think, yeah, just, yeah, untether yourself from nostalgia beyond the core motifs of the universe. And, yeah, I guess, this whole time we've been trying to figure out like how do we do ghostbusters again the whole thing about
Starting point is 00:20:08 the first movie is it like it's yeah it's a little bit of a slackers versus jocks comedy it's a bit of a horror movie a little bit it's got a bunch of people who are on script and one guy who's doing a bunch of improv like it's so hard to capture what that was i feel like we got to let go of that and not think so hard about it and maybe you know be a little more open to a range of things within our ghostbusters because at this point redoing the original one over and over again is going to you know not be as fun anyway. Yeah. No, no, no. I agree. I'm like, yeah, it is we are where we are. I don't think this sequel was necessary, but I don't think it was terrible. But I did. Afterlife is more what you're saying is like a modern remake a little bit of the original. Yeah, you could try a remake. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:55 At this point, try whatever. See if it works. And you can always try again in a few years. J. Dell, Ghostbusters, Frozen Empire. Hi, John. Tara, thank you for chiming in. If you got to join the Ghostbuster team in Frozen Empire, what would your custom ghost gadget be called? And what would it do? I feel like I'd invent something ridiculous like a Spector Sucker 3,000 that only half
Starting point is 00:21:15 works. I would... I would create a ghost guitar. Oh, I like that. The harder you shred, the more suction you can get into your amplifier that also is a trap. That's good, John. That's my ghost. I would just call it. The...
Starting point is 00:21:31 Or an actual soul-catching camera. If you can get it on camera that's fun. Hell yeah. I mean, he has gadgets. I just had name. I was like the juice catcher. Then you will name my gadgets. There we have it. There we go. I'll think on it.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Catch yourself some juice catchers. Kev B. Leave us yours too down below. I want to hear your pitches. Kev B. Ghostbusters Frozen Empire Nails. That classic Ghostbusters vibe. For me, God, somebody likes it in here. Even if it feels a bit crowded, sometimes it definitely does. It's definitely a bit overlong. It's definitely stuffed with stuff. if you could borrow one ghost busting gadget
Starting point is 00:22:06 from the movie for a day which one are you grabbing first oh god is there that many there's the wrist rocket there's the little RC car there's the drone whatever that new thing was
Starting point is 00:22:20 that she was working on Lucky was working on I don't know man there's so many cool ones I guess I want the wrist rocket okay you take the drone I'll take the wrist rocket and then we'll go back and rewatch that lab scene yeah see what other cool shit exactly all right j rushden uh oh looka kaka like finally annie pot's character as a ghostbuster
Starting point is 00:22:42 absolutely was definitely one of those things where i'm like okay chewy gets a metal everyone gets to suit up we're doing it we're checking off all the boxes but i would be lying if i said i didn't get a kick out of it question uh what city would make for a sequel uh and imagine ghost cats there uh okay so yeah we're she the ghostbuster ghostbusters LA baby Yeah, that's what we're talking about. Ghostbusters, L.A., or follow James A. Caster to Ghostbusters, London. That's true. Make my, what we do in the shadows.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Bring it to L.A. And all the cats are in it. Ghostbusters, Miami. That's also a very, very good call. Get you a ghost gator. Pitch yours down below, peeps. Let's see. Awesome, Joe.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Movie reviews. Awesome. Joe, this movie feels too cluttered with characters and the story felt too complicated to follow. I understand this is one of those legacy characters passing the torch. over to modern day generation but if you ask me i like it when it was it's just its own thing as a team of scientists capturing ghosts why isn't that uh why isn't it that simple to do i feel the studios are trying too hard to gain an audience with too much happening all at once any thoughts thanks for your time i don't know it's weird like the last uh installment before this was much more stripped back
Starting point is 00:23:52 much more simple uh in this one i could feel i guess the fun for me being that uh they were at least doing that thing where you dive into some folklore and you're bringing in you know, a bunch of old traditions and superstitions and, you know, yeah, it had enough of that stuff to me where the, you know, plot heavy nature wasn't such a cumbersome thing. And two, I mean, so much of the original is like people bouncing off the plot, you know, is our comedic personalities bouncing off the plot. So while I will not ever say that this is like the exact copy or revival of the original Ghostbusters tone that everyone's looking for, uh, you know, You know, I think your question is a good one. Why isn't it that simple? Because the original movie is deceptively simple. I think the original movie is a way more complex soup of things that maybe shouldn't have worked and did. And, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:47 They're trying to try something new. Yeah. So I just, I was charmed personally by what was happening here and by everyone's involvement, even though I can fully admit that yes, the ensemble involvement was not as well rounded as the previous ones. Yeah. And yes, there's like a ton of stuff going on. You could cut time out of this.
Starting point is 00:25:02 but yeah for my personal taste I was very charmed and as like a big cartoony bombastic continuation with some slightly new motifs added in I was satisfied but I think yeah it's like the original one how do you ever do that again and I think we gotta stop trying so hard
Starting point is 00:25:18 to do that again yeah I feel like when you say like the studio is trying too hard to gain an audience it's always going to be the case but the thing is is that since afterlife we have this it's still the same writer so my assumption is you know you're you're given less of a leash when you move on
Starting point is 00:25:34 and you've had a very good movie. So I feel like it may not be as much studio here as it would be writing and just trying to get around how do we make this new and not the same? Yeah. Because it is a very simple concept, but we can't just keep doing the same thing, right? Running around town, catching ghosts,
Starting point is 00:25:55 there has to be some sort of a switch up. So it's just going to continue to get harder and less simple, unless they find a way to meld that and still make it seem new and fresh, it's a tough spot to be in as like a writer and a director where they're going like, how do we make this fresh for them? So I think it's more of that, less of the studio.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Yeah, you've got to think of what types of personalities do we have the first time? We had four distinct members of the Ghostbuster team. How did we do the ghosts? there were a mix of practical things and cutting edge vis effects that's important you can't just do CG and then yeah you have
Starting point is 00:26:37 an irreverent you know work almost workplace comedy but with a horror element involved like it's you got to kind of strip it back to the yeah the core like yeah the core spiritual elements in a way and I feel like everything since the original
Starting point is 00:26:53 has struggled in a way to sort of fill that void or perfectly nail that soup down all right we got a speed round of some fun and trivia-tastic thoughts and feelings here jaden roads joining us again i'm curious if you all think there's too much comedy because i think afterlife it's such a good blend of it but this one goes full comedy in my opinion it does for sure and i think after afterlife uh that worked for me i think the drama was represented with the feeby character in a fun and interesting way that yes was a bit separate from the rest of the plot that
Starting point is 00:27:24 is an issue i could imagine people having with it but as much as this one definitely did did feel like it was dialing up the comedy. I didn't feel like it lost any sense of drama or spookiness. And I don't think you could just redo the same tone of afterlife again and have the same returns. I think you would have to change the tone a little. Let's
Starting point is 00:27:43 go. J. Dell. If you discovered that strange ancient sphere from, I already know the answer to this one, from Frozen Empire and realized it could unleash an ice age level ghost would you lock it away or open it just a tiny bit out of curiosity to see what kind of spirit was inside. Locking that
Starting point is 00:27:58 shit. That bitch in the closet. Take that back to Nadim's Jaddy's little room, put it in there, close it up, fill that thing with cement, more brass, whatever. We're out of here. All right. And then a fun fact from J. Dell to keep filming secret. The movie used the code name Firehouse, and many of the cast didn't know the full plot until their scenes were shot. A throwback to how the original 1984 films ghost effects were revealed only in post-production.
Starting point is 00:28:28 That's very fun. And I felt with the ghost stuff, it did feel like they were doing a little bit more of that blending of effects, especially with slimer. We've seen a full CG slimer and I'm glad we got some puppetry back in there. J. Dell goes on to say the production team brought back the original 1984 Acto One sound recordings for the sirens. So it would match the classic films perfectly. The wailing, whoop, who you hear is the exact same vintage audio from the first movie. And let's see. We got Kev B with a little trivia.
Starting point is 00:28:55 some of the firehouse props like Egon's desk and lab gear were rebuilt from the original 1984 blueprints and fragments to make the villain's icy breath the frozen reactions and the frozen reactions feel real the set was actually chilled below normal temperatures so the actor's breath streams and shivers naturally so the actor's breath steams and shivers naturally instead of relying only on CGI
Starting point is 00:29:19 and I think those things actually helped build some goodwill with the movie for me because after a couple installments that felt much more CG reliant this one I thought did nicely to yeah make the chilling the cold stuff chilling and look it looked good
Starting point is 00:29:35 and it was sinister and then yeah people's breath and yeah people looking like they're really cold like that translated in a subconscious way I don't even know if I called it out but I was like yeah I know they do that sometimes and I'm glad they did and then and yeah the slightly more practical ghosts here and they're pretty fun
Starting point is 00:29:51 so yeah this this definitely brought back some things I was happy about. This did some things that at least charmed me. And yes, I get why this isn't everyone's favorite, but I at least appreciate them branching a little further out in this new age, if they can, as long as they're still
Starting point is 00:30:07 chained to the nostalgia. Some nice metanods to that. But yeah, you got any more thoughts before we get out of here? Good times. Good times. We'll see if they ever do another Ghostbuster. Go check out the Neosisisoriga remix. Okay, bye. Hi, I'm Gene Chatsky. You may know me as the host of the Her Money podcast or the
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