The Reel Rejects - HALLOWEEN 5: THE REVENGE OF MICHAEL MYERS (1989) IS MENACING!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:00:24 All right, Citizens Reject Nation, Thank you for watching Halloween 5, the Revenge of Michael Myers, with us. If you are on Apple or Spotify, don't forget that 5 star if you're on YouTube with thumbs up. Thank you to Prepper for helping edit us down. We appreciate you, especially for these horror franchises. It can be very difficult. So you guys had your work cut out for you.

Starting point is 00:00:41 We are going to start today with some Patreon questions. If you guys want to ask us questions, join our Patreon. You get to ask questions to us. We kind of use these across the board for our reviews now because you guys ask such great questions. We love answering them, so we're going to jump right into it. Here we go. Jaden Rhodes.

Starting point is 00:00:57 Jaden says Halloween 5. I got two questions. questions. The first, is there, is there are few bits. The first is there are a few bits that I have seen others compared to Looney Tunes or Three Stooges, mainly Michael going down the river and the two cops coming out of the house. I'm curious if y'all feel the same. Let's stop at that one. I did not connect that, but I did, we did call it out that it did feel comedic to us, the cops coming out of the house. Yes, the cops did feel comedic. little stooge's like. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:31 But him going to the river didn't feel funny to me at all. No, I thought that it was creepy as hell the way he got in and just was like float. I was like, ugh. Like I was, yeah,

Starting point is 00:01:43 I was freaked out by it. Yeah, I'm with you. The second question from Jaden is also Dr. Loomis seems to go full crazy mode during scenes in this movie. I'm curious if y'all like those scenes because the majority of people

Starting point is 00:01:55 I've seen don't like this version of the character. it was definitely jarring man yeah like i i thought it was a weird choice because we've seen his character but i understand why he would be going a little crazy but it didn't feel true to the character that we know so far so it felt like either a weird actor choice or a weird direction choice or but it's hard to kind of tell with these things what happened yeah i agree because um i didn't like the choices i thought that it was a little out of the realm of what dr lumis would be doing and how he's been betrayed before I my assumption is the director was like now you got it you got to like yell at her

Starting point is 00:02:35 because you're pissed you've got so far shaker you need to yeah you got to catch michael um so i wonder if if the actor kind of thought back about it or thought that that was odd because it is very different for dr. limous i didn't didn't love it but i didn't hate it mark leach i enjoy this film for what it is but the messy behind the scenes is very noticeable. The original idea was for Jamie to also now become a serial killer. But the idea was scrapped. Which version would you prefer the scrapped idea of the one they went with? What do you think is going on with the man in black?

Starting point is 00:03:12 So I agree that I think after four they decided she was going to be a serial killer because we saw her standing there. Yeah. And this one, there was that kind of connection. But I didn't find this to be super messy. I just felt like they were like, oh, we want a future of this franchise and making a kid a serial killer might not work super well here. Right.

Starting point is 00:03:30 So I get why they went with this version. It would have been cool to see the other version, though. How do you feel about that first part of the question? I mean, I would have loved to see the craft idea. That's what I was the most excited by because I thought that ending made the last movie. And I was really excited to see where it would go. Like, do we have her and Michael? Is Michael now, like, training her?

Starting point is 00:03:54 Like, I don't know. right right do they team up do they team up like how interesting is that to see that you know the kid and i'm like oh it runs in the blood it was exciting i'm sad they didn't go with it but that's all right the man in black i need an explanation in the next movie because i want to know why why are you saving michael what is what's the deal here and most importantly where'd you get your boots because they're cute yeah i love i i don't know what's going on with him and i don't i wonder if i'll ever see him again. It seems to me though that you and I kind of liked this more than a lot of people. It seems from the comments and the question so far that maybe this isn't a popular one,

Starting point is 00:04:31 but I did really enjoy this. I liked it. I thought it was scarier than the last one. Yeah, me too. Michael Medina Carthorias. Chejacks, love y'all. The Jamie Lloyd character here. The Jamie Lloyd character here and the Tommy Jarvis character from Friday 13th, Tommy. Series of a lot of similarities. Both characters appear in four, five, and six of the franchise. and they were about the same age that is what's his name who's the singer with the angels

Starting point is 00:05:00 right sing oh yes it is I think so okay um you know what I'm talking about yeah you're talking about the name

Starting point is 00:05:15 like the Tommy thing the actor who plays him is the guy who now is a singer with the angels right it is What the hell is his name? I'm not going to know that. Oh, no, no, you do, you do, you do. I do.

Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah, we've talked about it a million times. What the hell is his name? I know his name? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've said it 80 times on this show. He's very, very famous. He was also on Gremlins and a million other things. And he's a singer and he is very controversial figure because he has all these angels that he

Starting point is 00:05:40 sleeps with. Yeah. You don't know? I don't know his name. No. I'll have to look it up. I'm blanking on it right now. That's crazy.

Starting point is 00:05:49 I know his name like the back of my hand. So that is, I've interviewed him multiple times. Anyway, both characters appeared in four, five, and six of the franchises are about the same age. In the first appearance, they both became institutionalized and developed homicidal tendencies. What do you think of this killer related, connected to a child trope and a horror? I think it adds fear or tension because you don't want to see the hurt, the child hurt. Yeah, I mean, I would definitely agree with that. you are a little bit more on the edge of your seat because you're like,

Starting point is 00:06:22 is this franchise actually going to start killing some kids? I don't know that I would put it past them to, like, not. Like Billy in this one I thought was screwed. Yes, me too. I thought he was definitely dead. So, yeah, I totally agree with you. It definitely adds tension. And I love that you connected,

Starting point is 00:06:41 the Jamie Lloyd and the Tommy Jarvis character, that the both characters appeared in 4, 5, and 6 of the franchise. And I'm like, oh, they were at same age. Okay. So that's not who I was thinking of at all. Tommy Jarvis is this guy. I was thinking of Corey Feldman. Oh, yeah, Corey Feldman.

Starting point is 00:07:01 You do know his name. No, but now that you just told me, I envision his picture in my brain. The little kid. Yeah. So maybe, but this is who Corey Feldman grew up to be. So I think that they're saying that characters are in them, even though the actor is different. Of course, because he grew up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:20 I can't believe I can't just come up with Corey Feldman. Yeah. I can't believe you've never heard that me before. Yeah. Yeah. With the angels, you know what? Okay. Yeah, we're on, we're back.

Starting point is 00:07:28 We're back. We're back. I agree with you. I think that it does make, I think that it's actually kind of a good trope because it does throw all the rules out the window because it's like, so are we like just willing to kill kids? Yeah. Yeah, but also have kids be killers. Right.

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Starting point is 00:09:15 Kebby, how well do you think the movie maintains Michael Meyer's sense of menace and did any moment surprise you or add new layers to the familiar suspense? I think that we, as we said earlier, this one was scarier to us. Yeah. So I think that it had his menace maintained very well. And when was that surprised me, yeah, when the girl's boyfriend wasn't actually Michael Myers, it was him trying to sleep with her in the hay. Yep. That was a good, that was a great, like, switch out where I, we definitely thought it was him and it wasn't. So they subverted our expectations in that moment,

Starting point is 00:09:51 which I really appreciated. The trivia coming from Kebby is this movie had a bit of a bumpy ride during production. We got to look into that. It was supposed to pick up right after four, but the script wasn't ready when the filming started. That meant a lot of last minute changes. That's probably why all the ADR dude.

Starting point is 00:10:06 It's so dumb. Which led to some confusing plot holes and continuity mistakes. That's probably why the man in black and also the foster parent situation. Right. I'm curious about. The crew had to move fast to keep the story on track. Still, the movie gave us memorable moments like Evil Clown Mask scene.

Starting point is 00:10:22 What was the Evil Clown Mask scene? Oh, where she was in the car with her boyfriend. Oh, yep, yep, yep. Yeah, that was gross. Which, despite everything, became a favorite amongst fans. I am shocked. It's not that there weren't holes in this because there were, but I just really, I did enjoy this movie. Yeah, me too.

Starting point is 00:10:39 Evil Clown, I'm assuming you mean the guy in the car, the spits or whatever. even though he wasn't spitz. Was that a clown mask? It was a creepy. See, that's what I'm saying. It was a gnarly mask and I'm really trying to think of my brain. Was there a different evil clown that I'm missing?

Starting point is 00:10:57 I think that's what you're talking about in the car and that was a creepy-ass mask. I didn't realize that this, I mean, you guys did that the production was such a mess. I think it's ridiculous that you would start filming before the script is done. And that means like the script isn't even done, which means you haven't even gotten a first, second, third pass.

Starting point is 00:11:18 You're literally already shooting. It's going to go to shit. Yeah, the more I'm thinking about also, like the guy in the boots, the man in black, the fact that we have nothing with that, the fact that we didn't get Jamie Lee Curtis, the fact that we, the, what was the other thing that I just? Oh, the foster thing was like the foster thing. Yep. Loomis was aggressive.

Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, yeah, that was weird. Brian Reed, how does Halloween 5 expand? on the mythology Michael Myers compared to the earlier films. Do you think that the introduction of the Mysterious Man of Black helped or hurt the series? We have to see where we go from here, right? Yeah. If he's never mentioned again, it hurts it. If he is a big part of the future, then it helps it.

Starting point is 00:11:57 I agree. If he's just put in here and we don't see him in the next film with a good writing explanation as to why he's the man who's been following around Michael Myers and saves him, breaks him out of jail, I'm going to want, it's going to hurt the series if that is just, that just makes five a total disaster. This was still better, though, than the worst Friday the 13th and worst swamp things. I'm with you. Swamp boy. What's it called?

Starting point is 00:12:31 Nightmare on Elm Street. Yeah. And Friday of 13. This was better than the worst of those. I agree. I agree. I didn't even dislike, I like this. It was scary.

Starting point is 00:12:41 Yeah. Right? We thought that the vibe was scary And I like that But I will say that if we don't get to see The Man in Black come back That's crazy That's wild wild, yeah

Starting point is 00:12:52 Jay Rushden What is your take of Michael Trying to pass on the curse here? Is that what you, is that universally what we decided He was trying to do Is pass on the curse? I mean, well, that's what we originally thought

Starting point is 00:13:06 When she touched his hand. Right, but when he finally just tries to kill her I felt like he wasn't trying to pass like hers anymore he's just trying to kill her yeah so I I didn't I didn't yeah I didn't get that I didn't I didn't get that I we thought it like oh she touched his hand but not because he wanted to pass it but because she touched his hand got the juice the murder juice center I didn't get that he's trying to pass it on but that's me I'm getting the sense that these is one of those this is one

Starting point is 00:13:33 of those movies that the more we break it down the worse it gets totally you know what I mean totally like the more we keep asking questions yeah they're like pass it on like what because it's like wait but then he did try to kill her and like why'd she get into the coffin coffin and like uh yeah like why'd she get in there where'd barely go

Starting point is 00:13:52 we don't know and how I actually don't want to think about this movie anymore because I liked it and I can't think about it anymore because I liked it I know and actually maybe we should never think about it it again you know we can't we we need to not break it down because we're going to find

Starting point is 00:14:09 too many plot holes like you guys have already told us exists so yeah everything you guys are saying i'm like yeah that is true yeah right and we we were just sort of in it for the ride because i like michael we were glad that michael was back and i like this little girl her acting chops were like she is phenomenal phenomenal like literally but she's you dude you guys like it's crazy like in the beginning i was just like staring at her being like she's so good and you're like and you went dr lumas is being weird and i was like yeah he is because i wasn't even yeah yeah i wasn't even focused on him. I was just focused on her because she's just

Starting point is 00:14:43 she's so good and she's so young like I'm choosing to focus on the positives today. So are you. Let's see what happens with Halloween 6. Is that even what it's called? Are we going to get Jamie Lee Curtis back in this franchise? I know when does she come back? Really strange. Thank you guys for going on this journey with us. Tara,

Starting point is 00:15:00 any final thoughts on this? No, I'm down. I liked it. We had fun. I don't mean to rush through the review by any means. I just legitimately don't think we should break this down anymore and we should remain in our bliss. I agree. Our Halloween bliss. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:13 We like this movie. Is it flawed? Yes. Good music look good. Yeah. Whatever. Halloween. It's a vibe.

Starting point is 00:15:21 See you for six. Later, Rejects.

The Reel Rejects - HALLOWEEN 5: THE REVENGE OF MICHAEL MYERS (1989) IS MENACING!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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