The Reel Rejects - HAZBIN HOTEL Season 2 Episode 1 & 2 REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:00:43 Because I'm a loser, baby. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we have just watched the first. two episodes of season two of Hasbine Hotel. Storm's coming, Greg. Storm's coming. Her name's Lute, right? Lute. Lute.

Starting point is 00:01:06 Who, season one didn't care about season two. I'm all about loot. Not that I'm on our team, but just invested. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Roxy, I'll go to you first. What are your feelings overall with episode one and two of this return? I'm really glad we dropped two at the same time as dropping one. because I think it really improved like the stakes going into one feel so much higher after we watch in one that loop that Emily comes and delivers this message and it's kind of like oh okay so heaven shut down and we don't get to really know why and I was nervous that we were going to just kind of let that be a little bit of a throwaway and then this they show us the background of that and in episode one you would ask me if I thought we were going to see Pensions

Starting point is 00:01:54 or you said you thought that we would see him in episode two and I said I thought we're going to see him in heaven and I'm glad we're seeing him in heaven and he didn't just like immediately jump back because I think we have to earn a lot of our reunions and this season is doing a really interesting job of setting up where characters might be

Starting point is 00:02:15 and also talking about like what happens when you double down, triple down and when you bury your head in the sand and you have your own opinions on things and nothing else can change your mind. So all the stuff going on is really at my alley. And I just love the show. I missed it.

Starting point is 00:02:31 How about you? I think it's a really strong return. One and two? Yeah, it's a good setup for what's to come. Like, is it meeting the heights of the latter half of season one? Not quite there yet, but we're setting up a new chapter. We're standing up a new section. But what's cool is they are leading with a lot more heart and a lot more

Starting point is 00:02:54 stakes unlike season one which was more like fun introduction and it takes a while before you really get like an insurmountable amount of heart and additional stakes so i like that they are literally not going what's a story we can do and trying to cook something up this feels like an incredibly natural transgression of what would occur after and i love this setup with vox of it plays really close to real life you know of it's interesting to take like a victory that they've had and now he's going to use media to control the narrative and weaponize and manipulate and we know that's how life can be so that line will still get the clicks from those who hate you and it's like almost intentional yeah yeah they they show very

Starting point is 00:03:53 early on that when they're cutting to them of when they take someone off the streets or take someone's personality and they completely warp them, then toss them away, how they can create some type of falsity of identity. And that's the thing that people have to accept. And who they are underneath doesn't really matter. And that's the dichotomy and divide between what Vox is doing and versus what Charlie's doing. Charlie's trying to get to the core of who these souls really are. to forget that a lot of these people were souls and earth first and she wants to get to the core whereas they are kind of you know quadrupling down and I like how they teased Vox's earth story with him being something of a cult leader we what's he say it wasn't a cult as a movement

Starting point is 00:04:45 yes yeah every cult always knows how to find the right words to make sure they don't use the word cult but we are we are privy to a lot of cults out there right now i've been in a couple of cults and if we're talking about religion it's weird to talk about it's weird i don't want it the cult of the she checks i don't know if people who are religious watch this show or people who are christian watch this show i kind of doubt well that's not fair but like can they enjoy it with just you know the fun it is or do they take hyper if i know i know that's people I know there's Christian groups who take hyper offense of this show. Yeah, you tell me because I think you were

Starting point is 00:05:26 much more religious, you grew up much more religious than I did. I cannot imagine when I was growing up Catholic for, I would say more in my life than not, there's not a chance in hell that this show would be acceptable. There's no way.

Starting point is 00:05:42 This would be sacrilegious. This would be satanic to watch a show like this. And I typed in Hasman Hotel lore last night and the first couple things that popped up were like Christian reacts and this is an abomination and stuff. Oh, really? Part of my, I don't even look up religious videos, but it, and I didn't even, I wasn't even

Starting point is 00:06:01 looking for that, but it was one of the first few things that popped up. Because we've had Adam and Eve, obviously, now we have Abel, potentially Kane, you have to assume that that will be relevant, the speaker of God, there's, and I, I think that one of the things that, you correct me if I'm wrong, but tends to irk religious people is when you use actual like biblical terms and people and then you besmirch them yeah uh which is what this show does a lot yeah oh yeah i mean what would they turn adam into this one adam's adam's the worst it's it's it makes fun of religion and it's pointing out the hypocrisy of it all like the very hypocrisy of heaven the con the very concept of heaven this is actually this show praise i don't

Starting point is 00:06:50 I didn't watch any of our reactions back so I have no idea if I already talked on this but that was the start of me not believing anymore was the very hypocrisy of what hell stood for in the story of Christianity

Starting point is 00:07:05 there's a personal belief again if you're a Christian I actually have no problems with you I don't try to commit I know some people if they're a Christian there's a couple people I can think of right away if they're a Christian like they gotta stay the fuck away from me

Starting point is 00:07:18 but who's gonna stay away the Christian I know some people who are like that, and I'm the person who loves to surround myself and take interest in other people's. I really weirdly feel prideful in having that kind of personality, because I'm like, I want to learn more about why you believe and hear the good, because I had such a dark association. So I like to learn the good. So anyway, my dark association, though, is the fact that they would say, you know, you do some sins on earth, then. forever you're condemned to hell and that seems to be antithetical to the idea of it all loving all forgiving benevolent god like that made no sense to me once someone pointed out that and that started my doubt as you would say

Starting point is 00:08:09 how were you uh i was in my 20s probably like really early 20s like right smack dab at 20 maybe so this show is doing that right now with like what does it take for us why does a soul go to having to begin with they couldn't even answer on the last one they don't really seem to really believe in redemption like if you're going to hell loot is even criticizing serpensius not for what he did in hell she's criticizing him for what he didn't on earth and that to me is that very hypocrisy that they're pointing out i thought it was really cool actually though if we're sticking with religious elements of the show. I thought it was really cool to show Sarah's character in this because Sarah is so steadfast in her beliefs and what she's always been told and what she's always known

Starting point is 00:08:59 is that once you are in hell, you cannot redeem yourself. You cannot be redeemed. That's why you're in hell. That's why she's been okay with killing anybody who's in hell. And then when the speaker of God comes through and actually get Serpensius to give what happened and reveal to Sarah what had happened, she changes her mind. Yeah. And I think that that's something that we obviously see Lute is not able to do. Emily does super quickly. But I think Sarah speaks to the best of us in that moment where it's like, even if you felt

Starting point is 00:09:39 positive, you were right. You were sure you always need to leave room for the possibility that actually you weren't. And I think that that was really cool. And obviously there's religious themes to that. But just as a human being, I really enjoy seeing her character then suffer from the fact that she realizes the harm she's caused, knowing that those souls could have been redeemed when she had told herself that was impossible. Yeah, that's one of the strengths of this show is they. humanized character. We saw that with hell of a boss, especially, do that,

Starting point is 00:10:16 where you would take characters in a prior season who seemed so two-dimensional, and then you further enhance them, explore their humanity. And they've done that with several characters in this one, in these particular episode two, when it comes to the heaven characters, Sarah, who you are speaking on, is a great example of that. And the theme of narrative versus reality even carries on in the second episode when you think about how the belief systems

Starting point is 00:10:45 and what the rules are, the narrative spin versus the reality of Pensions is here. Why are we having a hard time accepting this reality? And you're coming up with a million different concepts. Like, oh, well, he got here because he snuck in. He got here because he broke in. And it's like, no, no.

Starting point is 00:11:01 They have to believe the story that they were told first. And it is very cult-like thing. So I think the show is deeper than, they might get credit for, you know? I agree. I think that's why I've always, even though I loved Helleva, that's why I do prefer has been

Starting point is 00:11:17 because I think it has so many layers, another one being that, interestingly enough, Serpentius finally guts into heaven and guess where he's trying to go? He's trying to go back to the hell, yeah. Because that's where his friends are and the people that he loves,

Starting point is 00:11:30 and this was never about getting into heaven. And what is heaven? What is your own heaven? If not being surrounded by people who love you and being with the people you love in a place that you feel comfortable. Exactly. And here, in this heaven, he's here and everybody's judging him, falsely accusing him of

Starting point is 00:11:49 things, looking at him. And there's a whole song about how he's different and weird and unique, but I'm sure he's feeling like, I don't really want to be different, unique. I want to be, can you show me my friends? We see him in a ball on the floor crying. And he's so happy just at the mere sight of these eggs that aren't even his eggs coming back because anything that has familiarity so like this is we call this place heaven but we don't even know how you get here and also what what makes this place better than how

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Starting point is 00:14:03 Yes. And I know what the falset of connection is. I mean, the very, like they're talking about the social media side with Vox. And then when you go to Pensions' Earth story, it kicks off with him being just a person looking at a bunch of souls through a window. But it gives him this false sense of connection. And that's kind of like what we do in real life with people when it comes to social media. So there's some cool themes here. But, you know, there's the fun stuff too, besides all the heavies.

Starting point is 00:14:32 well that's songs and shit storms come in you and I both were like I mean I was sitting here kind of like this a little mellow and then both of us were like what's happening what is this like kick butt rocker awesome song so we've had five songs so far I think yeah so we had the Charlie song of the newly reformed has been yeah and that was like bright and cheery Broadway asked you said vaudeville like yeah those first two songs were it was reminding everybody um who everybody is and getting back into it so smart a lot of exposition and then we had the song with this speaker of god and superpensius's heavenly welcome song and but yeah that was the one that i think like one song the storm is coming one is both character and plot like very happy i mean a few of them are actually i don't want to just chalk it up to them not also storm is coming just like the tune. The tune was the second. Yeah. I think it's just the personal. It's also a big personal preference, perhaps.

Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah, for sure. I just think that that one, I just wrote Storm Coming banger, because, like, I was just vibing with that. And I think that I love her voice, too. And like we were talking about, you were like, oh, now that she has a song, I'm interested in Lute. And I think that that was what their intention was. I think that they realized after season one, we might not care about Lute because we were so focused on

Starting point is 00:15:57 Adam that who even remembered who Lute was after season one. And now, and this one watching her anger take over her storm is coming and adam be like you said the angel on her shoulder but really be the devil on her shoulder seeing her just like break out in this song was sick sick i wonder if the entire show will spend its runtime going back and forth between heaven and hell than showing the mirroring that both go to you know like i think there's like a not no one's exactly a one-to-one parallel. Some people might go, Charlie and Emily, they are the exact, you know, parallels to each other. But I think thematically, a lot of them are very, there's a lot of parallels between them. Do you, when you are speculating that, do you mean how every week two episodes are released and you believe maybe one will be in one place and one will be in another? Yeah, I don't know if they'll fully do that, but it would be interesting. It would be really interesting. I would be really down with that because then it's almost like you're releasing an hour-long episode and splitting it in two. Yeah. Well, if you look at Charlie, I love how that last season ends off with success. It is following up. It seems like days after the events of season one. And it is so complicated for what she's going through because she's got the love. She's got the reverence. She's got the customers. But it's all, again, under a false narrative that she's here to like kill a bunch of angels and shit.

Starting point is 00:17:29 And so she has to contend with the reality and have to get them to face it even like, oh, slaying Adam. No, that's not exactly how it went down. And she's kind of going manic, you know, like at a breaking point. What do I do? What do I do? And then you go to heaven. And while Emily is personality-wise feels most akin to Charlie and especially with the people pleasing with penches and like, please fit in. We're trying to make you comfortable.

Starting point is 00:17:51 Probably. You have pench, you have a, I'll forget her name, Sarah. Sarah. It's short for something. It might be seraph. Sarah fight. Something like that, Serafina or something.

Starting point is 00:18:05 But yes, Sarah is what they call her. But then, yeah, Sarah also contending with the struggles of the decisions that they made throughout last season two. And what is the right path forward? And it seems like both are dealing with what is the right path forward. No one really wants war. And you've got sides, both sides where personalities are cracking. And if heaven does decide to attack, that would only make Charlie's mission of actual redemption harder because that would just fuel the rage within of hell wanting their revenge. So I like how complex they've made everything.

Starting point is 00:18:40 Yeah. I'm super with you. I also think, like, my first initial instinct is, cool, heaven's shutting down. And we hear just now from Emily when Sir Pentius asks, is this a good thing? And she's like, I don't know. At first you might think, maybe that is good. Let's just keep them separate. nobody's coming into hell and killing anybody nobody's coming into heaven but like it's literal

Starting point is 00:19:02 segregation yeah and then you clock yourself and you're like no wait it shouldn't be that the only way for two groups of people in order to coexist is for them to never once interact that's that's crazy uh we see that in in this planet in this world all the time like we can't just decide if you guys can't get along then we're going to build the wall between you right Like, there's got to be middle ground. So I think it will be cool to see us working towards that. And I would love if they did an episode, an episode, at least for another, like, two weeks. That'd be cool.

Starting point is 00:19:39 How many episodes do we get this soon? Eight, like last time. Yeah, and Vox was doing the same thing with welcoming the people who were, felt rejected by a Hasbin hotel. Reject Nation. reject nation and it's that again the falsehood it's like the veil of protection when you disguise salvation as something else but really it's just another form of manipulation manipulation yeah and like at first you're like oh that's nice and then it's like what no it's not um i i am more into the heaven storyline than i am into the v's right now i think that might shift and flip on its head at

Starting point is 00:20:23 some point, but they're just like a bigger threat and larger than a lot. I don't know about bigger threat as much as like, yeah, I guess I'm just more interested in them right now. Like, I'm more interested in the dichotomy of Sarah and Lute and fake Adam being there and what this able situation means as opposed to the V's, but I'm still into that enough. Just right now, my heart is more with the heaven story. Well, they got a really big focus, whereas you know, Voxes seems Yeah, this is very similar

Starting point is 00:20:58 What they were like last time Yeah, and Vox's like We're gonna take over heaven and run it And I'm like How, what, who, like that song How are we gonna get up there And whatever it is We're gonna get up there and do this

Starting point is 00:21:09 It's like, dog, don't And no you won't But maybe they will and we'll see I imagine they could I mean Alistar is threatened by him In some capacity I don't even know the full history behind them So I'm excited to unpack that.

Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah, more Alistair. We didn't get that much Alistair in this, than the first episode. Not this time around. No. No. In fact, it's like, I felt like we got so much, even though like one episode's dedicated to hell and no one's dedicated to heaven. I feel like heaven got so much more meat than held it. Yeah, because hell had to reintroduce stuff.

Starting point is 00:21:44 Weirdly, when I didn't feel like we needed to. But that's it for this week. I thought it was a really strong start. who knows if the season overall will be as strong or if it'll end as strong but songs are still good also animation updates I could see it in the movement like particularly the movement feels very

Starting point is 00:22:04 like the motion is more present so I'm excited I'm excited any last spring roll thoughts here Roxy before we head out I don't know what that is I was just trying to find a word Spring roll baby I was going to question some word I said

Starting point is 00:22:22 This show is not a has-been. It is a currently, and I'm happy to be here with you, Greg. Happy to be here, too. And look, we're ending our shoot on time. Whoa. See you soon, Reject Nation. Thank you so much for being here. We'll see you next week.

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The Reel Rejects - HAZBIN HOTEL Season 2 Episode 1 & 2 REVIEW!!

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