The Reel Rejects - HAZBIN HOTEL SEASON 2 Episode 5 & 6 REVIEW!

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Starting point is 00:02:17 buyraycon.com slash real rejects BC. Thanks again, Raycon for initiating me into the family. All right, ladies gentlemen, we just watched the episode five and six. Yep. What show? Of Hasman Hotel, baby.

Starting point is 00:02:37 Of Hasman Hotel. Greg knew all that information. He was just quizzed me. Oh, look at the background of this. Is an apple and a serpent also. Do you see it? That's pretty cool. The start of Lucy, Lucy.

Starting point is 00:02:50 What? Start of Lucy Lucy. Lucifer. Oh. And I don't know what you. Oh, yeah. Yeah, start of Lucy Lucy, yes, yes. Or in this context, Adam and Lilah, actually.

Starting point is 00:03:04 Yes, oh, Lucy, Lucy. Did you have a favorite song here? Let's see. I know I did. Which one was it that we were freaks? Oh, the Charlie, the Vaggy song. That was sick. Yeah, the duet, but mostly Vaggy.

Starting point is 00:03:22 So good. How about you? I would probably opt for that one. one and then hmm probably the hustong we opened with a really cool song in episode five

Starting point is 00:03:38 too yeah it was a really good one with everybody that was cool establishing the grounds of where Vox was currently at so how are you feeling about this show I mean we were expressing a little bit of concerns last week last week

Starting point is 00:03:52 when we were here filming last week right how are you feeling now with what the progress is of these next two episodes. I much preferred 5 and 6 to 3 and 4. With that being said, we only have two episodes left, and I'm feeling that

Starting point is 00:04:07 the clock ticking. Like, wow, we still have so much to do, because what we didn't really address in 5 and 6 was a lot of heaven stuff. Like, we haven't moved forward. Well, it depends on where the season's going to end, right? Like, we now have declared a full-blown war,

Starting point is 00:04:23 and we have two episodes to deal with that, theoretically. So I'm so glad we got to see more of Vaggy and Charlie together. I'm happy that Vox is like really this huge, huge threat. I think there's a lot of parallels. Obviously, they literally say make hell great again. There's a lot of parallels between this war and current wars. And there's a lot of parallels between the divide in the United States right now.

Starting point is 00:04:56 So I think that this show is seeing big swings. I'm really enjoying it. And also, I'm still a little nervous about us only having two episodes. How about you? I think it's said a lot of heavy lifting over a lot of the concerns that we were having. Like, I like everything they're doing with Vox way more this time around. I still feel like he's defeatable in some way, you know? Like he doesn't, he hasn't reached this point yet where it's like, how do you take this guy down?

Starting point is 00:05:23 How is he undefeatable? and you know what they're comments what they're using it as a as a political tapestry of I think is pretty cool because even though it's very relevant to today you can watch this show like 10 20 years from now and you don't even need like today's context to understand it you know

Starting point is 00:05:43 well history tends to repeat itself so yeah yeah like what's going on today is not exactly a first time of it all so yeah watching him use media manipulation, the propaganda, weaponizing rage, acting like he's one of the people while also disrespecting current law and order and leadership. It's a neat way to draw it, and it's a cool way to see how he rises in strength, and the machinations of how it's all formed where the heaven wanting to have resolution

Starting point is 00:06:17 because I even found myself here with you going, well, you know, it's not wrong about that. They're like, why would they forgive? And then you said that, well, the fighting has to stop at some point. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's right. They don't want to fight anymore. And I was caught up in the speech of, well, fuck, man. Yeah, heaven's got to run them wrong. They should probably go kill their ass.

Starting point is 00:06:37 I think that's the whole point of what, like, I love that they're addressing this because when in life we go tit for tat, it's not tit for tat. It's tit for tat. And then tit, tat, tit, tat, tit, tat. And I think that, obviously, like, not to make it too crazy political, but we have seen that in a lot of different places, but especially with what's gone on in the last 100 years, thousands of years, and especially in the last two years in the Middle East, I think that there's been a lot of commentary about who started something. And then also commentary about what the United States place is in helping. and I kind of felt like Carmelah felt like a little bit like U.S. coded here because while she's supplying weapons for the people of hell, she's doing it because she thinks it's the right thing to do to protect her family. Right. And it's easy to get caught up, us looking at this, being like, no, heaven really effed over hell.

Starting point is 00:07:42 It was a full-blown genocide. We see thousands of people every year dying. That's what they were doing. every year it's easy for us to be like yeah we want vengeance it's hard to be like and when does the killing stop yeah and that's what we all have to ask ourselves like how do we if you really are somebody who wants peace are you willing to let go of the past in order to move forward towards peace and yeah i i was really moved by that storyline in this because i like you gregg it's we now we've lived in hell for a long time.

Starting point is 00:08:18 So we love these people. And we're like, you guys totally effed us. But at the same time, so what are we going to do? Fight a war with heaven so that then they can kill us more and we can kill them more and then us as in hell. Yeah, yeah. I think that that's, it's an interesting way to tackle bigger issues. And it's an allegory for a lot of other wars throughout history, of course, because a lot of wars are centered around the same thing. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:08:43 But that just, it spoke to me in this particular time, people. period, even though it also speaks to a lot of other things. Yeah, the commentary is pretty strong and timely. Yeah. I guess this comes down to how's the immediate writing of the characters going there because I like pulling back and looking at all that. And like to me, as much as like the commentary is strong in the first season, it's more characters and I find myself thinking more about what they're talking about more than I am the actual

Starting point is 00:09:16 character experience is. this time. Does that make sense? Tell me more what you mean. Like what kind of moments are you thinking more about than the character experiences? Like you care more about the theme than you do about the individuals. I mean, yeah, I find that like

Starting point is 00:09:29 when we're having the most exciting conversations or our takeaways, we're off. Yeah, you're right. It's often associated more with like what the show was talking about versus, you know, like watching like Lucifer coming to the equation in the first

Starting point is 00:09:45 season or Angels struggle as an addict and dealing with the sexual abuse in his life. And do you find that to be a good thing that we care more about plot than people or bad? I don't know if it's good or bad.

Starting point is 00:10:01 It's like it's interesting. The character stuff is still there. Like the song that's what makes the song's good. You know, like the song with Vaggy and Charlie is really strong because it is about them as you know how she how Vaggy was able to

Starting point is 00:10:18 honor the principles and the faith system that Charlie lost sight of inside and because this whole time she's been wanting the approval of her mom and try to get her mom back that was a really strong moment it was it was a beautiful moment

Starting point is 00:10:33 because we I said earlier in the episode I was like she's knowing the piss out of me and yeah and it's because what and I like that they justified that this is a bigger deal for Charlie. Like I think last week you said, why is Charlie caring so much

Starting point is 00:10:49 about this redemption thing now that we know what heaven is? Yeah. And there is something bigger going on here, which is like she's trying to finish what she believes her mom wants and started and what would make her mom proud. And she's not doing that because her mom's gone. She's doing that in hopes that her mom loves her again.

Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah, yeah. That was like, I remember we're speaking about how she really wants validation and that's why she's going to these like extreme lengths to change the narrative and that carries over from season one so i think it's still strong how do you feel about the husk stuff and angel dust good stuff good stuff you like it do you like it yeah yeah i was i was happy i mean you called this first you and pretty quickly that it's it was angel's turn to pull husk out yeah and it seems like in that one moment he does and yet now angel

Starting point is 00:11:44 is under this spell and so Husk's going to have to pull Angel out yet again because we see Husks like something's wrong. Well, it probably have to physically save him. Yeah. And then they can profess their love for one another. Do you think that's where we're going? I never

Starting point is 00:12:00 quite picked up on love between them in terms of romantic. Oh, really? Until this episode. Then it was like, okay, I guess I wasn't sure was more accurate. And when he started blushing is when I started a wonder like okay I guess maybe it is actually that

Starting point is 00:12:18 I feel like we got that in episode four of season one but yes I'm with you that we it hasn't been a consistent through line where it's been like oh clearly they're pining after each other yeah I thought they were just friends but this is the world of Hasman Hotel where every gay guy wants to sleep with every other gay guy that one line am I gay when Angel does comes out I know who cares everyone's gay here apparently yeah the nifty stuff is so funny

Starting point is 00:12:45 I don't understand why these characters keep trusting nifty like what is that character she's a little bit more cohesive than last season but she's you know she's doing her thing ridiculous Alistair it's weird what they did with Alistair and

Starting point is 00:13:01 Angel Dust because I don't know about you did you feel like Angel Dust was not really as much of a presence so far before before this yeah yes yeah like he had that one episode about him totally and then And then here I thought it was kind of clever to actually not make him as much of a presence.

Starting point is 00:13:18 That way we didn't pick up on any of this manipulation of the hypnosis technique that Box was doing on him. Because we did see those text messages, but I didn't read them quickly and didn't know what they were about. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I remember there was like one point out of like a shit ton of messages to bow and I didn't know what that was about either. But if they were focusing more on angel dust, I don't know if we would have made him more suspect, but I thought that was kind of clever to like remove him away from the equation. that way you're not suspecting it and I kind of feel that they're doing something similar to Alistair where he's intentionally

Starting point is 00:13:49 weaving this tapestry of everyone turning on against each other amongst the Vs and so if we're not fully paying attention to Alistair we're not going to 100% be mining what's going on there we saw him completely manipulate Vox when he's like

Starting point is 00:14:06 take the stage alone basically and convinces him to do that and then when Velvet turns her chair and she's been sitting next to Alistair, it's very clear to me that before Vox walked in, Alistair very clearly was talking to Velvet and to Val. Yeah. And he's planting more seeds of doubt in their minds

Starting point is 00:14:27 because they immediately are doubting more than they ever have. So I'm with you. And I think we'll see a little bit more of that. How much do you want the last two episodes to focus on Lily and Sarah and Abel and what's going on there? and how much do you want it to feature Lilith like the bigger

Starting point is 00:14:49 part of this versus how much do you want it to feature what's going on in hell? I'm asking the loaded question, Greg. I would prefer if they finally brought Lilith in. I think they've been dangling this carrot for a little too long. And I don't even know.

Starting point is 00:15:09 That's the right phrase. No, yeah, that was right. Dangling the carrot? yeah who do you who am i supposed to be what's it a horse is that how that what people do they dangle carrots to their horses to make the horse run really you used the right expression is this a conclusion i just don't know what the i started questioning like who do you wait who was the original intention of the dangling of the carrot yeah for a horse really is that what comes from oh i didn't know that i mean i'm 99% sure we have to know we cannot proceed

Starting point is 00:15:40 crazy about it is that you used it. I know, and I question whether or not... Question yourself, okay. I had the metaphor down or simile. Oh, God. Okay, daily carrots, I'm offering someone incentive like a reward to do something. The idea of leading a donkey by holding a carrot.

Starting point is 00:15:56 Donkey. I thought it was a horse. Yeah, you were way wrong. I still think it's a horse. Donkeys and horses are two very different animals. Okay. Well. And what's interesting to be a metaphor and a simile?

Starting point is 00:16:08 A simile is like. A metaphor isn't like Okay So I lost my original point What are you hoping for? They're dangling the carrot of Lilith for too long And I agree Yeah they've been dangling that

Starting point is 00:16:22 I agree I agree with Lilith And I agree with that Because I think they were building up for this The whole moment of her explosion Of her character Charlie to do all that But I'm like I kind of feel like we've been through a lot of this

Starting point is 00:16:37 Already with Charlie to a certain extent in season one already like we already this show was already a big acknowledgement in season one that she was really doing this because she obviously they kept calling her out that she wants validation and approval and her dad shows up so I'm like I kind of feel like we went

Starting point is 00:16:53 through a good amount of this already speaking of her dad what do you think about them call what do you think the situation is here with them calling Lucifer yeah what would they say like we have our power source now that's what they said because he's an actual he's an actual angel too

Starting point is 00:17:09 Lucifer Yeah, but about Lucifer but also about Angel that they had their in What is your

Starting point is 00:17:18 question? Exactly. What do you think their game plan is about calling Lucifer over? Oh yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:25 You know at the end. Can you like strip I don't know Angel juice? I've watched the show You haven't seen Supernatural have you? No, only a little.

Starting point is 00:17:36 Okay, well they have angels in the show? And sometimes you have to, like, take the angels ju-ju from them. And so I'm wondering if that's what they do. Because we want to get to heaven. Well, the way to take down the angels is only with angel killer, is with the weapons the angels have already crafted.

Starting point is 00:17:57 So maybe in some way to arm themselves to get into, or like where you're saying, to pierce the veil of heaven's gates, you need some type of angel ju-ju. They're using Carmen to make the weapons right now, because she has yeah the weapons of mass destruction okay

Starting point is 00:18:13 which is a carrot when you dangle it is carrot which is a metaphor not a simony yeah simile is this is like

Starting point is 00:18:24 oh fascinating well what are you hoping for in the finale of this are you okay with the lack of lilith that we've had how are you feeling about

Starting point is 00:18:34 Charlie's arc let's start right there how are you feeling about where Charlie's at with this. She's not particularly like my favorite this season. Well, I like that we finally get to. She's doing this to impress her mom. But I agree. She's not my favorite this season either.

Starting point is 00:18:48 I think even last season, I like Vaggy best, though. And I do love Vaggy. Vaggy and Angel really both speak to me. But in terms of answering your first question and kind of having that tie in here, I feel like we might not get Lilith for this season. Well, that would suck.

Starting point is 00:19:07 I'd be doing that thing that I said they'd be doing. Dangling, I care. About the season two, like, not completing your narrative. Yeah. I mean, Lucifer came in kind of late in season one. He came in, like, a one episode in the middle, then he came in very late again in the finale. But I'm right that we have two more episodes?

Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah, I believe so. Okay. Because, yeah, I mean, we're referencing her a lot. And, you know, I do also think it's very interesting. Vox keeps being like, this is what Lilith would want. It's, like, kind of reminding me of MLK Jr. a little bit. where people constantly are like, this is, like posting,

Starting point is 00:19:40 this is, the MLK's quote on this and on this. And it's like you're completely misinterpreting his words here. And you don't, you didn't know him. And there's, taking out of context, everything is different.

Starting point is 00:19:55 And using her as the North Star, just I wonder if they think it's enough that we keep referencing her. And she is a huge deal in season three. Well, that's religion though that's how that's how you have like so many different denominations of christianity you're 100% correct it's from like a billion people being like well actually here's what this part of the bible means and then some guy shows up is like you know i got a third bible now you know that's so that's what they're doing with little words that's totally right

Starting point is 00:20:25 and in that comparison then charlie is jesus and jesus is like no this is what my parent actually thinks and nobody's listening you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's a metaphor. Analogy? What's an analogy? Analogies.

Starting point is 00:20:45 An analogy. I know an analogy when it's used. I don't know how to describe. The analogy would be what I just did. Like that is as if it was MLK. Yes. But how is the clear delineation then between a metaphor and an analogy? Metaphor is metaphorical.

Starting point is 00:21:06 language as a metaphor is a metaphor as opposed to a specific example like that metaphor could be dangling a carrot got it but if you use like that is that an expression it is god how we're supposed to sell a screenplay we can't tell you the difference between an expression analogy I can tell you what onomat appears metaphor yeah and let's make sure we got all our bases covered because we're not really going to talk too much about it and then vaggie having a very empowering song was really cool that was the sexiest they've ever been because they were definitely doing it and they did it through the art of dance they are so similar do you watch harley queen the animated series i've only seen the first season okay so you're not i've seen the first two seasons no whichever one is the one that ends up with them driving off this is so Harley and poison ivy yeah so so similar i mean i know the characters well enough to understand. Right, of course, of course.

Starting point is 00:22:08 But just, I mean specifically in the animated show, it's their dynamic. Yeah. Which I love. That's my favorite animated show. I wonder if this is all going to end to some giant conversation. Like we're going to be on the brink of war.

Starting point is 00:22:23 And then Lilith shows up to clear the air. Because you're right, we haven't gone to the heaven spot to see what their POV is after all this hell backlashes that they've received. And that's like a star falling from the sky. Yes. Good. That's an analogy, isn't it?

Starting point is 00:22:46 No. This is complicated. Move like water, brusely. Be like water. But yeah, do you have any final straying thoughts that are lingering in the air here? I love this world. I'm super glad that we're doing this. And I'm looking forward to the next.

Starting point is 00:23:06 too and I hope they don't disappoint. Yeah, I feel so bad for Angel, man. Oh, it's a fucking heartbreak. Yeah, no, it was how you to understand you just now. Yeah, I feel so bad for Angel who is so hard break. He's just tossed around so much. I could hear myself clearly. No, I got it.

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The Reel Rejects - HAZBIN HOTEL SEASON 2 Episode 5 & 6 REVIEW!

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