The Reel Rejects - HEARTSTOPPER S1 Ep 3 & 4 REVIEW!! Nick & Charlie's First Kiss!

Episode Date: January 17, 2026

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Yeah. I mean... On the back, it'll say pandering. Yeah. Excellent. Excellent. That was a secret. They won't know that until they get their shirt.

Hashtag pandering. Hashtag culture war. Hashtag ally. Hashtag I'm an ally. Oh, my God. That moment. All right. John, why are you so into Tara?

You know, because we kissed once when we were 13. Terra, Eric. Yeah, we kissed once when we were 13. 13. Right. So you were 13. She must have been 37. Yes, it was

Daddy's, my, that's my boy situation. Nice. It's hot. Yeah, my imprompte's or terror. We should support those. We do.

We do. As long as it's a younger man and an older woman. Yeah, that's good. Then it's good. Reveveve. Then it's creepy. But then, you know,

if you're an older adult and a younger woman, that's hot. Yes, that's acceptable. with a certain it becomes like you know from

your boy a woman younger it's illegal and creepy but every guy's like hot it's fucking hot is all right

it's not right it's not right and then when you're older it's like an older man younger woman totally cool but it's like a older woman and you're like wow

what a horrible woman you are weird yeah I don't know and that's not even illegal what is that way is that way is that's No, yeah, as long as everyone's of age and consenting. Yeah. You know, there are lots of conversations to have, hey, some people like to date older people.

That's fine. Yeah, yeah. It's weird because there's a two-way conversation that happens because on the one hand, it's like, you can't date too young because that's creepy. Yeah. But you should be able to date older because that's cool. So, like, where is the happy, you got to, like, do the happy, like, age range gradient of, like, okay. I don't know. Can't be too...

I don't know. I had a conversation about that very recent on Olivia's podcast because the book that we were reading or characters like that and it had brought up a real, like all jokes aside. I brought up.

I was like a genuine conversation about that. Of asking the real question of like, what are your thoughts on asking me this? Of when it is like a younger person who's like a teenager and they're fooling around with someone who's like an adult woman

or something like. that. What, what, are we talking like a teenager or, or like a 15, 16 age? I would say like 14 to 16, I guess. Because, like, I'm not about it. Yeah, I guess like a 14 to 16 year old older. Underage person plus adult equals no. And then it depends on like the adult.

The adult adult adult is like 19, 20 or something like that woman. And it was one of those things where I was saying like, yeah, you know, like logically, every part of me sees why that is really bad. you know, the, the trauma that could actually result from it, the output, the perspective, like, you put, you put legality out of the way it's, it is illegal, you even remove legality out of the way that it's like, it's psychologically, psychologically, but then when you're a guy, not but, however, a lot of guys, and I, and even as like a guy, you know, like, at that age, I wouldn't have, like, a problem with it, you know, I wouldn't view it as,

like, weird when I was a guy, I'd be like, every guy I know would be like, good for you, cool, hot, you know. is that strange I don't know if that's changed with the youth but I grow that's why that's my boy that comedy was so funny because it was making fun of that thought process

that a lot of guys actually have of like hooking up with older women like it's so absurd that movie if you guys haven't seen it's about it's the plot of the guys a kid who like host up with his teacher and ends up pregnant it's like that's horrible it's a funny movie but it's definitely

it's making fun of that thought but it's yeah it's Yeah, it's basically taking it at the face value of every high school boys fantasy, which is a thing, which, yeah, I mean, because when you're coming of age and you're going through puberty and, yeah, I don't know, I mean, like, I guess by the natural order of things, the way, the array of things you have to find attractive are going to be, for the most part, people older than you. So, like, it's natural to, like, I don't know, experience those attractions. Yeah. But, yeah, you're also on the bad side of a line. I remember even being, like, it's weird to have that thought with friends, but then when I would see like a news report of like a female teacher and it's like, that's what I'm like, ooh, teacher. But even when you're younger, but then the power dynamics, the age stuff, the, that is like the psychological abuse. We make the child. There's a whole like bag of worms here that is like an hour long conversation. It's a weird cultural, because it's like, you know, and then. I'm saying that when I was a boy, I registered like when it was on the news like, oh, this is really ugly. And, and.

not good even if I was like young crushing on my teacher as like a seventh grader or something like that one yeah seventh grade crushing on a teacher being like it's a good thing my teacher was never into me you know yeah well you know because yeah it's through the scope of like your young person emotional spectrum whereas like you see it on the news and you're like oh this is like the show where all the bad stuff happens and they're talking about this in the most like clinical terms possible this doesn't seem cool yeah Anyway, this show has nothing to do with any of what we talked about. It's all start from John making a joke, and now we have sprung board into a whole new conversation.

What are you feeling? How are you liking Nick and Charlie? I'm loving Nick and Charlie. This has been really enjoyable so far. It's interesting because Nick and Charlie are so naturalistic in their portrayals. Let's get a list of character names up. I want to work on this. It's Tao.

Tao? I know I know Tao now. Charlie. Tau Nick Charlie. Tara. Tara is the one who is not crushing on Nick for because she's dating the girl who I also don't know the name of. Then there's blue eyes chick, there's Tara's girlfriend

and then there's the girl who we think is from Doctor Who. Yes. That's the thing about slice of life is I love slice of life but it is like a different can of worms when it comes to like giving all the names to memory because everyone just has like normal people names.

Yeah. So anyway. Yeah, it's interesting as of these couple episodes because I'm still really enjoying the story. I'm still really enjoying the story telling. The characterizations are interesting to me because like Nick and Charlie are so naturalistic and so sweet and earnest. And obviously they're like our two mainest protagonists. So you get the deepest sort of dimension with them. these two episodes

had a bit more of a contrast of like oh certain characters feel more like they're out of a comic or something like that and then other characters

feel more natural but even within that I like all the different flavors so far and I liked how direct you said you know during the reaction you're kind of surprised

we got to this point with Nick and Charlie at this stage of the show and I am too but at the same time I always find it striking yes she is Rose Noble yeah I always find it striking

it's striking when these kinds of developments do get addressed, you know, expediently. It's not always, but sometimes, you know, I feel like that's a mark of storytelling that is, like, apt to, you know, challenge itself and keep moving. So, uh, yeah, I'm really enjoying it so far. It's very touching. A lot of emotional moments here. How are you feeling? I'm quiet. I like the, I like the first episode quite a bit. I love this one. And I love the episode three. I actually like them both as a pair. And yeah, Joe Locke is such a captivating performer.

He's one of those guys that when I see photos, he looks like a young child actor model. You know? And then when I see him on screen, he seems like the most endearing, sincere. There's a strange, like, star presence yet authenticity about how. he engages with his performers. Like when he smiles, like he looks genuinely touched, you know? Nothing about it seems like performative in the way he's doing it.

He makes it look, he's truly effortless and feels like a real, like, guy you're just watching. And I really enjoy everything he does. Like, he's an amazing leading character. But I do like the simplicity of its storytelling. and it's fascinating to go back because it causes my mind to go into what it was like

again to be a teenager and I never really had like the high school life and I was you know I was like I used getting into child acting to get out of high school I really didn't want to be in high school was one of those guys didn't really do anything with that like literally almost didn't know anything

and yeah and I was trying to get away from home a lot I didn't really have the greatest home life. So I was trying to get away from home. But I still understand like the emotions that come with this. And there's another, there's this book series that I'm reading has been about high schoolers in Ireland. And unpacking that. And again, that puts you, and that's in first person point of view. So that gets me into that mindset again of feeling these emotions.

And oftentimes I'm having like childhood stuff and trauma of like, of lifting. So this is like the more lighthearted side of it. However, the social. uncomfortable uncomfortabilities how these things feel so life or death informative for how you will go into adulthood but even the transition of someone like tau who i can see being a challenging character for people because at times he irritates me but i'm i'm on the quest to understand him because there's something about him that i see myself in and i project some of my own hatred onto that of knowing what it's like to be that guy who is possessive

You know, like, I was just saying I wanted to get away. I don't know what his family life is like, but I know what it's like to want to get away from home. And so you put all this stock and weight into friendship to make that family. Yeah. And you become like possessive and in a way that is rigid and a kind of unclear to others around you of why you meddle in and try to become the solver because there's also a sense of control.

So, you know, like everyone here is laced in a way that I do find understandable, even right down to Imogen. You know, I know what it's like to know women like that when I was younger and to also be, I don't know if I was really quite like a guy like that. I feel like there's a couple of instances when I was like much younger where I put myself out there in a really four way without picking up on very obvious clues. Like the other person was really good to me, you know? So, yeah, I think it's a very, very relatable experience. And it's, like, cool, again, to see a character like Charlie, who has a very specific type of struggle, but because the struggle is so specific, it makes it relatable.

Like, out of anyone here is easily the one that I connect with the most, that I relate with the most, all the uncomfortabilities and wishfulness, of good heartiness as well, you know. I'm less like a Nick and anyone else here. So I really, really enjoyed it. I'm not even really sure what I just said now, John. I haven't slept in days, and I've been hyper-stressed about a lot of things.

So I was just trying to find my words and see what I was feeling as I was talking. You were just talking about how much you loved Harry as a character and you related to it. And you hope that we got a hairy deep time next episode. Oh, we should get a Harry spin-off. Yeah. Yeah.

It was good. No, and I mean, to jump on that for a sec there. Like, that was a good moment. And I wasn't expecting so early on to confront that in this environment, given where Nick is at in his journey. Yeah. And it's not necessarily a moment where he comes out or anything like that, but for him to stand up and to basically say in super plain terms,

that's homophobic. That sucks. I don't like you. Like, it's just kind of neat to see because, you know, people struggle to do that in real life. and it's nice to see an example of it happening here and you know in an episode where you have somebody coming up and be like I'm an ally are you not dating this guy

you know you know then you see like a true display of allyship and what Nick does you know yeah true well we got some questions from our royals I say we read him John do you want to read the first one I would love to thank you Gregory Tara from the show no hi John and Greg

Hey, Greg and John. Hi to you, Tara. Thanks for chiming in. Thank you for reacting to this show. What are your thoughts on the scene at the birthday party when Nick saw Tara and her girlfriend, Darcy, dancing and kissing? I mean, that's such a lovely moment,

especially the way they captured that because they have this, like, you know, ethereal, euphoric rainbow light and these, like, subtle pastel motion lines and shit, and it's, like, beautiful, and the crowd is parting, like, the Red Sea, and you know, Nick is just looking on. And yeah, he's, he's seeing two people, you know,

living free for a moment there. And it sucks that later in the episode, or later in this batch, there's, you know, a rumor spreading in people in the, you know, greater populace of the high school bubble or learning about this and dealing with it. But yeah, in that moment, it's just him seeing the possibilities to me.

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like that I've, it's like, stranger things, which is came way later, borrowed a similar thing where our main character Will saw lesbians hooking up and he was like, you made his puzzle? And it's different.

Like on the real as a as a, as a hetero, it's pretty apparent in society, that while lesbians obviously have dealt with a lot of homophobia struggles as well, societally speaking, it seems even the men who hate gays tend to get a little bit more on board quicker with lesbians because there's a sexual novelty that tends to happen. Yes, exactly. And desires, and maybe. you know, I can get involved in there somewhere

or some bullshit. Hate the gays unless it plays to my gays. Exactly. So naturally it seems like there's a, and I think that's a part of why it feels like it could be more normal and a little bit more accepting and girls or women like generality speaking are more expressive,

you know? Hell, I even see it lately in some of the comments we get about when people have seen John and I, like, we need more straight men to express themselves this way. And I never really look at ourselves in that lens. So it's like, interesting when I see that because that's the privilege. Maybe because like how we are, we don't attract people that they're talking about into our lives. I don't like have straight friends who are like like a macho men, you know? And so I don't know what I'm, of course, I've encountered that, but I don't like hang out with

guys like that. Yeah, it's a combination of not being around like a whole bunch of like a whole bunch of like aggressively masculine people all the time. And it's the, I guess it's the society's straight privilege of like not really having to think about it as like a key part of your identity struggle, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like, don't get me wrong. I completely get it when I'm seeing those, those messages. And I completely understand what's coming from. I'm not like, what? Where is this the process coming from? Of course, I understand. Like, I'm at the end I'm a guy who grew up in fucking America. Like, I get it and I of course been around it, undoubtedly. Like, in my younger years when I was a teenager

I was surrounded. That's when I had my masculine friends, my friends who did not feel comfortable with gay people. Did it like gay people? Yeah. Elementary high school, junior, all the... Every joke is gay joke. Yeah, like not liking gays is a very, like,

the norm. So like, when you, when you, we're, more commonly when I watch a show about being gay in high school, that speaks way more volumes. And, and my mind and heart understand that way more than even adulthood like an adulthood i'm like you're adults you know how we should be on the but it'd be you can find places where you could navigate your life too

where it might be easier to be accepted you just might have a hard time with your family if they're not accepting you know maybe you might have some friends or a dicks but you can get new friends well yeah it's it's that interesting thing of like there are elements of a high school experience that carry over into your adult life but there is the the feeling watching this even where you're like where you're sitting there at least for me going, okay, yeah, this is very intense. And of course, like, the, the anxieties about these people you're going to be with for the next four years or whatever, three years. But, you know, once you get to college, you can re-ran. Or once you're done with high school, you can kind of re, you get a new opportunity to kind of rework how you present yourself to life.

But when you're young and all this shit's being instilled in you, like, you, it's hard to break free from that. By the time you reach college, and then you got someone like me with, like, placing logical thought process, like, good new friends, you know. Get a new life. Just buy some new friends. It's really hard to break free from that because I'm in my 30s and I have shit that I'm like, oh man, I still think of this way about me and other things in life that I got from my being in childhood. That's not dealing with like homosexuality. So I can only imagine when you have such a society label on it where like people literally get their asses beat.

Like, I don't mean that in a pun way. People get like fucking like beat up. Yeah. You know, bullied, like, crazy. And I'm sure people have been killed just for, you know, being gay. So, yeah, this is, this is, that, I forgot how this question sprung into this. We should move on. I am not thinking, like, completely on track.

The spectrum of intensity. But, but, yeah. We just keep open up new doors. There's a lot. No, no, it's good. It's a lot to a mark of a rich thing that there's a lot of conversation, a lot of different ways you can that conversation. I got this one, John.

Don't you worry. Please take it away. Tori Jerry, comic book character. This show is based off a graphic novel series and has a lot of the physical shots and editing choices are directly ripped out of the books such as the leaves.

Did they spell leaves right? I'd say you'd spell leaves plural? Yeah. Oh, man. Not leaps. I'm an aspiring writer. Regular shots and split-string shots. What do you think about the directing,

animation, and editing choice? they've been using throughout the show. John, I know you were holding back. You were like, oh, I never talk about this. I need to get in there. Go on. I love that stuff. I went to school for that stuff.

No, it's, I love the way they shoot this. It definitely feels like it's inspired by a graphic novel. It's so composed even in moments that don't feel like they beg some kind of spotlight. uh and like you were pointing out they're really good at using the the stuff in for like it's so well art directed and everything has so much personality that they have like this kind of wealth of options in terms of how to frame things expressively and how to do cool lighting and stuff that you know really pulls you into a moment the way they play with focus and negative space and blah blah and yeah i mean like it does have this kind of pop to it that feels yeah it's like you know

movies and shows are often storyboarded, but this definitely has that just niss, that quality where you're like, yeah, I can imagine the comic book panels as I'm looking at this. Yeah. You know, even in, again, tender, sweet, intimate, you know, moments that you wouldn't necessarily think of.

Yeah. They use a lot of color psychology. Like, there's a, it's been a while since I'm seeing a show that used the color pink a lot. And the pink, you know, I can imagine. I've never actually looked it up. Imagine. I think a pink, something romantic,

a little bit more feminine. And I like, what do you know, what does pink color mean? Pink color symbolism. All right. Love, compassion, nurturing, and innocence. Femininity, feminine nomin. Hey, I was pretty close.

Hope and health. I said a couple of those words. Yeah. I also did say it's a meaning shifts from soft pastels, calming in general. I heard of her say that during the reaction. That's right, that's right. And hot pink, I said,

was energetic and rebellious. So health and joy. I do love the way it's shot. And they're really choice on like the subtle things I tend to notice now are the choices in the same scene when they choose to go wide shot to when we do an extreme close up. And when they decide to do like a, I forget the framing shot, but it's like more of a middle shot. Everything is very specific. Like I love this scene when they're about like, do you want to kiss? Is this person you're into?

Are they not a girl? Every time there wasn't like any zoom in shots. Yet whenever they would cut back between them, the shots kept getting closer and closer symbolizing their more intimacy to the time before they actually ended up kissing when we keep a locked on two shot of them just actually going at it. So I love the way it's captured. And yeah, it does have a lushness to it that doesn't feel overpowering.

Not like, look at me. it's very in world with how they do it. There's a lot of emphasis on different shades of the color blue, I think, primarily. You know, for some reason, I think of this show, I think pink, yet when I watch it, I feel like I'm actually looking at the color blue a lot. Yeah.

Which I think is a, probably the, you know, the saturation tone of many in emotion when you're in high school, you know. Pink and blue, baby. Some bullshit of tone plot, blah, blah, blah, blah. Phinex Thanks for chiming in Hey guys

What are your thoughts so far About Nick Taking on this secret relationship with Charlie So soon after questioning his sexuality Do you think he should have waited a bit To figure himself out more Or was this a good time to explore his feelings for Charlie Um

Well I mean it feels very lifey like, you know, ultimate logic hat on, I guess you would probably want to get some security in your situation before engaging in a fully committed relationship of some kind. But at the same time, this seems like a walk of life that it might be beneficial to have someone who's got a little more experience with you to kind of help you through that. Like if they're willing to, you don't like, it's not anyone else's responsibility. But I could see how a lot of, of you know people discovering themselves might want some kind of trusted person partner somewhere in the middle you know figure to do that with i could imagine it being healthy i don't know they're young and and yeah he's discovering two sets of things kind of intertwined but that are two different things so like it feels appropriately like life's mess in a in a nice kind of endearing way but also yeah it's uh how do you feel of it more fascinating

by the question because this this kind of question I feel like used to not really come up in life when it came to media because now I feel like with media there's this sort of projection that happens on characters I'm not saying you're doing it

this is what your question made me think or maybe you are and I don't know is that when we watch characters do something and we're like why is he doing that? I wouldn't do that. That's a lot of what people are actually coming down in the saying. Like, that's not the logical choice. That's not ideal. That's not what I would do.

And it's like, well, it's not about what you would do in this like thinking out of the box perspective. It's about what this person's doing at this point and stage in their life and their emotional response to things, their emotional reaction of things. Like, what kind of drama would you want to watch? Someone's like, you know, we need to logically assess this situation. And maybe I don't want to like actually hook up with this guy right now. I need to figure out my gayness first. Well, and your logic is the second draft of someone else's first draft experience. Yeah, so I feel like what we're, when we watch a good TV and shows is people making emotional decisions.

And at the end of the day in life, believe it or not, it's logical as we are. We're actually making most of our decisions based on the way we emotionally feel, even that, even if that emotion feels purely logical. Most of the time, it's not. So I like what he did here because it, I like something that subverts the plot because I thought we were watching everything that's going to be stretched out where they finally kiss at the end of the season. So it takes in a very different direction. Direction that's going to be about an exploration and unpacking while you're in the middle of getting your feet wet, getting the experiment going, you know? That's through Tom, Matthew McConnell.

I was going to say, dude, get a 90s version of heart stopper with Matthew McConaughey and Mark Wahlberg. Time to kill. I actually, I've never seen that from it. It always sounds like a James Bond movie. Sounds like few to a kill. I think it's like a really hard-hidden, sad legal drama about race and in the south, I'm pretty sure. Oh, my. Yeah, it's John Christian.

All right. Oh, my God. This is some heavy shit. That is a plot. Joel Schumacher? Oh, my God. Oh, man. Two and a half hours?

That might be a good movie. That sounds like an intense film, dude. Or it might. have a 66 on Rotten Tomatoes. We'll have to decide for ourselves. I don't know. That sounds like way wicked, ugly, and intense. Yeah.

Ugh. Well, yeah, I like, I appreciate the choice that he decided to do there because now we can do, like, exploration. A lot of times people like to in life think, overthink something before they do something. Now, I put thought into something I do, but there reaches a point where you just have to go, well, you got to just start doing it and then figure it out. you can only think so much ahead of time. And maybe you don't do that with people's feelings and emotions and relationships that's like not wise to do. Sometimes though, you know, you get that pull. And that's why I think it makes for interesting conflict with the pushing pool. Like he throws himself

out there and goes, I want to kiss you. I kiss you. Oh no. What have I done? I'm sorry. Like they're both like apologizing and assuming they did the wrong thing and that the other person feels pressured. And so they keep having these assumptions that are stemming from their own insecurities about how the the person feels about them. So that just feels way more real and high schooly. And Charlie just seeing him across the way talking to Tara

and not having any of that context but he's still like, I just got to leave the room. I don't feel. And he seems like he feels a type of way about it. He seems like he's feeling some kind of dejection, rejection. You know, he's jumping to conclusions

and spiraling. And like, that's super net. Like, that's, I have experienced that for many situations. Oh, yeah, man. And like stuff like that is like, yeah, the mess is the beautiful part. is the beautiful part of the drama because then, you know, the characters hopefully learn from that and grow from that.

Hey, man, this movie's got an 85% audience score. Dude. Time to kill. It's time. Let's watch it right now. Let's triple feature. Yeah, this sounds like a movie that I don't want to watch. This sounds like a situation.

I don't want to put myself through. Yeah, like, oh, I'm really going to put myself in a mindset. I don't want to, like, be in. but people really like it. Well, you know, I guess if it's good. That's the trouble with illegal drama. Like, you gotta be great. Otherwise, what else is there?

True. Like, a dark and okay legal drama. I don't know. Hey, guys, it makes you feel real bad. Well, oh, God, this is just... Oh, no. It's tough stuff. Well, guys, what did you think?

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