The Reel Rejects - HEARTSTOPPER S1 EPISODES 5 & 6 REVIEW – NICK & CHARLIE ARE SO SWEET IT HURTS!

Episode Date: January 24, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thank you to Heel for sponsoring this video. More on them in just a bit. I'm feeling good right now, and I want to keep that feeling going by watching this feel good show. Hey. So let's go. All right, guys, we just watched Heartstopper episode five and six of season one. Thank you so much for being here. Prepper, of course.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Thank you so much for editing out of these highlights. I'm doing this because I can't really hear myself and sometimes there's an audio connection. So thank you, Preper, for end up. these highlights. And thank you guys who have been joining our Patreon for this page and other things we cover Al Juel over there where we do the full reaction watch along. That's where you sync up with your own copy of Heart Stopper and help offset monetization hurdles. We encounter every single day.
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Starting point is 00:01:30 Yeah. It really does pay to cut corners. It really does. We should cut more corners. We should. We should, Doug, give up on some of those ethics. Tell those artists that, too. We're not making any money because I'm paying you.
Starting point is 00:01:41 It's looking right at them. You are the reason. You're the reason. Take it. Wow. How do you feel? Just trying to deprive a whole bunch of people that are livelihoods because if you're selfish, you need to get paid for your art.
Starting point is 00:01:54 And then when they complain about it, I go, wow, you're not grateful. Yeah. For the opportunity of gracing one of my shirts. Anyway, John. Okay, so the two things that happened here is Tara and other girl whose name I don't remember. We're getting close. We're getting there. Lori.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Tara and. Blonde girl, blonde girl came out. Charlie and Nick are, well, Nick's coming more out and believes it's bisexual. Charlie and Nick are a little bit more closer to having an official label. it's about the main beats, right? And Tao is slowly being left out and he's going to crack and kill them soon.
Starting point is 00:02:40 He's going to crack. What we're leading to? How are you feeling, John? Season two, manhunt for Tao. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. This is such a sweet show. And this couple of episodes,
Starting point is 00:02:51 yeah, it's like, it's been very fun getting into romance generally as a genre because, you know, we're still learning how these kinds of stories move and what the tropes are like. So I, you know, I think we're both, still kind of in that place where you're like, oh shit, man, what big old shoe is going to drop?
Starting point is 00:03:08 And it's fun sinking into, again, more material like this because the storytelling tenor is different. And so, like, there are conflicts that arise in uncomfortable situations and stuff like that. But part of the fun is, like, the subversion of, like, oh, you think things are going to be catastrophic. When oftentimes they just end up sort of life-scaled in a, in this show's purview,
Starting point is 00:03:32 at least in a very kind of. of charming way and I know that the spectrum varies obviously but for the walk of life that these kids are in you know I feel like this has like a very cozy and well-tuned blending of really sweet heart swelling moments and then you know moments of you know actual anguish or you know uncertainty you know figuring out your identity um but yeah it's it's not so much tied up in melodrama as it is just in compassionately observing these kids come in of age in a lot of ways. So, yeah, it's just kind of gracefully continuing the story.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And I do like this budding potential romance between Tao and L, partly because, you know, that's, I guess, in the classic tradition of like, you know, in classic romance and comedy, everyone, you know, couples together at the end, you know, all the way back to Shakespeare and before that. So, you know, I could see that being a big thing is like, oh, we're going to, you know, couple everyone off. Not to say that, you know, that'll be the BL Endel. I'm sure other things will arise.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But, yeah, I like the different, you know, conversations had about just what the experience is like and what it's like dealing with people who all have their own thoughts about your life and stuff. How do you feel? How are you feeling now? I've been with the show quite a bit, you know. Like, I like to have, it's nice to have, like, a relaxing, fun show.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Like, in the first couple episodes, I was like, okay, okay. I've been in like think smart deep mode you know and lies and because the reason I sometimes I said that like get in that mode is because I naturally kind of want to like
Starting point is 00:05:12 joke around with something and have fun and that means I'm having a good time with the show but I've noticed that oftentimes me having that much fun comes to the expense of the people watching our videos having fun and it's a shitty feeling when you have that much fun and then you're like no one's having fun with me
Starting point is 00:05:29 having fun. People are angry at the way I have fun. Yeah. That's not fun. That's not fun. Brings out a natural fun way to think. Because it's just, the conflict on it is, it feels so like slice of life. But also, you know, that little bit of hiding comic book world sense that like graphic comic book high school. I don't know what kind of genre of like slice like an American splendor or something where it just feels like lifey. It's like when you watch an anime and it's about
Starting point is 00:06:04 volleyball or something. Yeah. What is that like genre where it's you hear a comic book you'd think like epic action, badass superhero fiction, but there's this other genre where it does feel like slightly heightened but not really.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Like there's a bit of a quirkiness to it. There's a charming quirk. Yeah, I guess it would be sliced. of slice of life is the best kind of thing I can come up with. I'm sure somebody who knows, you know, comics and, you know, various other similar kinds of fiction can tell us, but it does feel like, yeah, slice of life. It's like the stakes aren't world rending or anything like that, and it's a lot of just the, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:46 uncertainties and foibles of just trying to make it through the day. Yeah, it's not like conflict drama heavy, but it's also not void of it, you know. Yeah, otherwise it would literally be a boring show. if there was like everything goes well yeah there's no reason to think it won't yeah yeah a lot of that might feel like
Starting point is 00:07:04 preconditioning off of and who knows it might go darker the season might probably know there's two more episodes left and it could end on like an extremely dark note or then other seasons might be darker but tau is murdered or tau murders oh yeah there you go they did set that up so I like the
Starting point is 00:07:20 I like the feeling the show gives you know like I'd like watching a show that is dealing with a very familiar subject that we've seen in other mediums, you know, like, oh, a lot of times when you do characters where the main characters are gay and it's not, I mean, I feel like generally when I think of a story like that, it's usually about the struggles of being gay or the struggles of coming out. And they're doing it in a way that feels, uh, in, in, in, poised in today's world where
Starting point is 00:07:47 it's not a hundred percent as like shunned in certain, and a lot of parts of life as it once was. but then it also is still like there and there's this like uncomfortable residual and there are still some bullying assholes out there. Yeah. But you'll also get more defenders now than before. Then you also have like the online world to contend with who will still say like messed up things with a problem. But these people now who will say things messed up online probably might not say it to your face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:15 You know, there's a lot of that. And so I like that this world takes that more real high school approach. And I, it's like refreshing to see it because every time I feel like it's going to go down. generic route or get bogged down with the same type of trope. This advancement of their relationship is honestly refreshing. This is the biggest thing I could say about the experience
Starting point is 00:08:36 with it. There's a lot of refreshingness to it. You know, from watching like three gay things right now, heated rivalry and Hared Stopper and all the porn I'm watching now. And interview with the vampire. It's
Starting point is 00:08:54 like these subsections and I'm like, yeah, see, not every gay story has to be the same. Well, yeah. And not everything has to just be solely about being gay. But I like the way that this story handles it. I'm really enjoying it a lot. Yeah, well, and I feel like especially having seen heated rivalry recently watching this, and I am not an expert on, you know, queer media by any stretch.
Starting point is 00:09:17 But it does seem like we're in a moment in time where the conversation is slightly more nuanced. Like, I do appreciate that, you know, you have, you have, you have, have all of our main characters except for, well, you know, Isaac is not a main character, but like everybody who's on the sort of main focus is queer or queer adjacent or somewhere there. And I like that you
Starting point is 00:09:38 get multiple views on that. It's like in heated rivalry as well as here. You have a character who is definitely you know, having a homosexual experience is awakening to that side of themselves, but is also kind of grappling with the idea that like, okay, maybe I'm by, maybe I like both, maybe it's, you know, and
Starting point is 00:09:54 the layers that come with every different type of person's experience of this similar awakening. You know, the things that Tara and her girlfriend have to deal with, you know, that are along a different part of the road than like what Charlie is into deal with because he's been out for a while. And even them having the conversation between Tara and her girlfriend, they're Tara saying, like, you've been out for way longer than me and this is hard. You know, I'm still getting adjusted to this.
Starting point is 00:10:22 They just find all the great little lifey ways to make each perspective. nuanced, and they're not like outlandishly different from each other, but they're unique in a way that feels like life. And I think the conflict in this show is handled in a way that feels like, you know, you're, especially when you're in high school, like a lot of normal things in hindsight feel very intense and very pressurized. Right. And so like it's, and we've, I think, talked about this before with this show.
Starting point is 00:10:49 But yeah, it's the scaling. I think it's well scaled. It's, yeah, it's not like catastrophe has always lurk. There could be some kind of catastrophe. But, you know, it's more about the ebb and flow of the tension of the moment and the fears that irrationally build before you just talk to somebody. Yeah. And it's really cool to see the way that they talk because it's, you know, the scenes wind up really lovely and they are able to do what people in life aren't always, which is talk directly to each other. For the most part, minus maybe Tao and L at the moment.
Starting point is 00:11:19 But even, yeah. Sure. Yeah. I think the scale of it is both really cozy, but also has the right. amount of stuff to make your heart swell and stop at moments when you think something bad is going to happen and maybe it doesn't and all the
Starting point is 00:11:33 nick and imaging and stuff. There's just so much like really lovely, compassionate writing and it's also fun and all that stuff. Yeah, I'm really enjoying this. It's really great. Routing for Tao. Rooting for Elle. And that's another, you know, that's a whole other nuanced conversation
Starting point is 00:11:49 to have about like we grew up best friends. You've transitioned to a new. Holy shit, John. God. Oh shit. Oh shit. You just don't stop. We got the stuff. Tara, she's here. Oh, Tara from the show.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Hey, Greg and John. All right, you read the next sentence. What are your thoughts? I know how the show is handling peer pressure. Like when Nick felt obligated to say yes to go on a date with imaging in front of their friends. And also all the negative comments Tara was getting on Instagram when people learned she was a lesbian. I read the next sentence. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yeah. Then I'll read Nikki's name after this and then you can read. the first sentence and we'll just trade off every sentence or we can trade off every word yeah sorry i just know that tau thing was coming up yeah um what are your thoughts on the show is handling peer pressure uh i like again it's a very like relatable way and i think like it's also a good lesson like we're we're in our 30s watching this and adults don't handle conflict as well i know and so we watch like teenagers i don't handle conflicts as well all the time like for nick to just go to Imogen and tell her
Starting point is 00:12:57 directly and have a conversation and not be conflict avoidant because of reasons is like a good thing for people at any age to witness but especially younger people who probably watch this show. I think that's just such a good thing to see.
Starting point is 00:13:16 It's like you can portray the realistic version that most people would do which is definitely not that. Or, I mean, but I'm to say it's not realistic in the handling. There's a very real world where you can handle it like that. And I like the mature approach to show the possibility of that, whilst on the flip side with the negative comments that she's getting on Instagram. I mean, that's like my life in every way. You know, I just did a whole video about it, actually.
Starting point is 00:13:44 So it's the toughest thing to contend with. And it is interesting. As honestly, as like as a straight guy, it, to see some of those comments, like, I've never left a comment like that to anyone. No. But I do not as a straight guy I have noticed from just watching this episode like, oh, I don't really
Starting point is 00:14:07 pay much mind to those kind of comments a woman who has come out gets or a lesbian gets. I don't. And it did dawn on me of like, I don't really pay attention as
Starting point is 00:14:23 much to the lesbian struggle as I do the gay guys struggle and that if there's anything in this episode I took away with in terms of a reflective thing it was that for me I should probably
Starting point is 00:14:38 pay more attention to I don't even like I think I know any actual lesbians I know like bisexual women I don't know I think I have like a I should get a lesbian friend yeah you know you should go on lesbian friend finder.com
Starting point is 00:14:55 I got to get a card for everyone. So you do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. You got to get one of each race and one of each sexual orientation.
Starting point is 00:15:04 So you've got to collect all the people. Pokemon. I think, yeah, I support you. I think stuff like this can be really nice because of, yeah, it's like not every comment, not every conflict in our, yeah, we're people generally, we're not always great at speaking clearly on our conflict. And I think what's great about a show like this is like it's always helpful. And I find it sort of cathartic and almost therapeutic in a way to just like watch an example of the conversation kind of going well. And here's what you could say.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And like stuff like that, you can kind of apply to your own interpersonal experiences and stuff like that. So the whole Nick thing, like I would be very tense being like, oh God, I know I got to go my Bud's birthday party. And I told this girl I would go to here and how do I deal with that? And then like, it was a great scene where they figure that. out together and he's very open with Charlie because he cares that much about him and yeah he brings the problem to him and they work it out
Starting point is 00:16:04 and Charlie's not even super phased like throughout this the sixth episode especially like there are times where I was like oh no is Charlie going to retreat or feels some type of way especially as Nick is working out this stuff with his potential bisexuality and yet you know it's it's not that
Starting point is 00:16:20 and it's like nice to see some healthy communication happening and like you know him and his mom, Nick and his mom, like that, even though she's clearly sort of she thinks he must be straight and there's a pressure that comes out of that. Even still, like her advice
Starting point is 00:16:36 and him talking to her is like a tender thing and informs other developments that happen and that him telling him a gene. Yeah, there's just so much great examples of how to communicate these hard things and I think it's a great function that fiction like this can have as well as in this show's
Starting point is 00:16:52 particular context providing a spectrum because I'm sure every queer experience is bespoke and it depends on what your gender is that's in conversation with that and all these other things. So like for a gay guy a lesbian, a trans person, all these things have to be different
Starting point is 00:17:08 but in a way that has at least some intersectionality of the queer experience at large. So I don't know. Yeah, I think this is just a really lifey depiction of all that for my limited perspective. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hello, Rejected is now 2026.
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Starting point is 00:19:13 Welcome to my favorite two episodes of Hard Stopper Season 1. How well do you think Nick handled the imaging situation? What would you have done differently, if at all? I hope you're still enjoying the show. We are. I am. I would have bought her a new dog. That's right. I wouldn't have brought my dog. I would have brought a new dog. And I would have come with a bunch of different excuses.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Like, oh, it doesn't work down there for me. So I don't want to, like, hook up with anybody. Yeah. My genitals were run over by a car when I was six years old. And now I don't have anything there. I'd say lie your way out until you don't have to lie anymore. Yes. That's how I do it. Fake it till you make it.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Every step of the way. Every time you set something up makeup and different, bigger emergency. that's how you do it man and you come back and you're like you know what i think if we didn't schedule a date this week nothing went wrong i think that's just the universe's way of saying we shouldn't be together you know and then if you're called out on it you just ignore it publicly that's like i got to know the controversy every acknowledge it so you handle it how you handle it guys i handle it the way of the sociopath like gregg albuh who i wonder how i would have handled that i don't know how i would have handled that i i probably would have done the same thing i'm now i would uh
Starting point is 00:20:24 I have 15 though Jesus I good communicator for 15 I have it's hard like let I've had that I haven't been in a lot
Starting point is 00:20:38 of situations like that but I've had it like one time I can record like the last time it ever happened it was one of the most awkward like conversations it's just so hard to have yeah it sucks when you know the person's like super
Starting point is 00:20:52 into you sucks and everything about like they're pretty and like a really likable but I'm just not there and it's like to have that conversation it's super super like difficult but you just got to be honest about it and the only thing you can do is be honest so I would have handled it the same way and you know anything you got to get out of gay card gosh that's so much better yeah some people probably make that up can't gay can't do it secretly gay. And then now we're best friends for life. And now you know my secret a little. You got a hint at my secrets. So now we're bonded.
Starting point is 00:21:30 You're special still. You see, you're still special. Yeah. Because I told you. Unless you're talking about the very public situation where there's people there watching and you're like, oh shit,
Starting point is 00:21:41 do I say yes? I probably would have to say. That's, I mean, that's super relatable. Especially if you're just opening up this can of worm, like if you're just opening up this side of your, life and learning how to understand it and you got all these dudes around you who are very broie anyway
Starting point is 00:22:00 yeah yeah like i don't know at a certain point of here yeah what are you doing eh what do you do that you're sweet on you yeah yeah that would be buying the wedding china uh yeah that would be super duper hard to like just be like sorry can't you know yeah i i feel like i would yeah in the public scenario you'd probably panic, say yes, and then you go have your private talk with Charlie and then you go have your private talk with Imagina, we're good. I think this went about as well as you could expect for kids
Starting point is 00:22:34 of this age. Here we go. All right. Regina Heart Stopper. Hope you are still enjoying. How are you feeling about now? Question marks.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Question mark. I like him more than I ever have. who's grown on me a lot. He's a very big protector. Yeah. And he's funny. His relationship with Elle is really fun. And I also understand why everyone will be very apprehensive to tell him because he's got a very confrontational, strong, stubborn personality.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yes. Which can be very hard. Yes. Like you know you will get around to it. But you might delay it because you just don't want to deal with you. Yeah, you really need to prep him, and you have to have him in a safe space to really, like, to hash this out. Yeah, so I understand.
Starting point is 00:23:31 But you wanted to elaborate on... I got a question. Now, every once in a while... I can't tell him apart from you, yes. Every once in a while I'd like to ask questions on camera that show how uninformed I am and things I should probably wait till the camera's not rolling. But then I'll just do it on camera in hopes that I'm like,
Starting point is 00:23:52 hey, maybe this makes me relatable. and people will understand what it's like to ask this question. The person that plays Elle. El is the transgender person? Yes. They, I don't know the proper turn. I know dead naming is a thing. How do I talk about before?
Starting point is 00:24:10 They were formally a guy. Is that how they identified? Like they were a boy? Yes. And now, and is that actor? Like, they were, I'm assuming this is a real transgender person. and they were once a boy, but they were actually... Transitioned into being a woman.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Because they look, and now here's the real, here's the real thing, Craig's afraid to say. Because, oh, man, this is going to go great. Is, you know, like, there's a lot of, like, transgender people where I met where I'm like, oh, damn, I had, I could, I could not tell that they were once a boy or a woman before, and then there are times where, like, oh, you can definitely tell. I cannot tell at all, this person.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Sure, sure, sure. You know, so that's why I'm asking that question. I guess I didn't do as bad as I thought. No, I mean, like, well, here's what I noticed. A lot of, they'll get cast more often, you know. I wonder if, if, I don't know the actress's backstory super well, but I, my very uninformed guess would be probably that if you are kind of knowledgeable about this aspect, of yourself from a young age and have, you know, that support in your life.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Maybe you do present a different way than if this is a discovery you're making later in life. And I also know that, you know, surgery and hormones and stuff like that has developed a lot over time. So I would mostly throw that out to the crowd for, yeah, more enlightenment on. But that's my point is that, like, I don't get the impression that this character did all that. The surgery and the hormones and everything. But they never mentioned that. No, and I mean, she does, yeah, present very, you know, very, very feminine. Sounds like new and recent.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So I was like, oh, damn, like you, I had, like, would never have, like, of course you're a woman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's my thought process on Elle. Like Hunter Schaefer, watch two scenes of euphoria having no idea. Sure. I was like, what? I had no idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Well, and it's one of those things, too, where you're like, should I be able, should I, be acknowledging that I have any ideas at all? You know, or should I not be? Is it rude to open up this conversation? I, you know, I don't, especially if your nature is just to want to understand and be a better, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:36 human ally, et cetera, et cetera. I think it's unfair, but it is. I don't give a shit. I, I give a shit if you're getting bullied more than I give a shit if you have done, if you do transition. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, and for a lot of, for a lot of, you know, people up here who haven't grown up with you know a lot of queer experience directly in their you know
Starting point is 00:26:58 main purview of life you know yeah it's stuff that we're all still kind of learning and broadening our well that's ideas we have an inverse in LA where it's like it is not cool to be homophobic or transphobic or any of that but those people still exist and are still out come out of conversation oh yes you definitely hear you're like okay that's what you think yeah yeah and there's a lot of there's a lot of insidious hiding that just below the surface. Oh, you know, and you see who lets their guard up to say some icky shit where and when. Yeah, so what do you think about Tao now and how about Tao now? I enjoy, I'm enjoying Tao. I mean, I like...
Starting point is 00:27:38 How now, cowbrow, Tao now. I find Tao endearing. I like that there... I like when people draw characters who have tendencies that could be aggravating, but you know, if handled right, you know, you can kind of see how they're still very lovable and fun. That's right. You are definitely a tau. There's always in here stepping into Tara's face when she makes fun of me. No, no, Tara's a Tao. Tara's definitely a Tao.
Starting point is 00:28:07 When Michael Tesler's making fun, and Tara goes and, you know, says, your mom joke. I do love that, like, that freaking guy, Harry or Henry, whatever's name is, like, never for, like, the alpha dick that this guy, apparently is he's never got one ready to sing back into it. It was very funny. Yeah, I mean, this episode, it's easier to get on board because you see the benefits of his possessiveness. And even though Charlie isn't always like, thanks, you know, him standing up for him, you know, and being so unafraid to just like step to Harry is cool. And, yeah, I mean, like, all the stuff with him and Elle playing and having fun together.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Like, you see how they're best friends and you know you can feel the history of them growing. up together. But yeah, the budding romance and especially L's apprehension to say anything makes a lot of sense. And yeah, like I'm starting to understand Tao, even if I don't always like,
Starting point is 00:29:05 you know, share the, you know, just idea that whatever thing he's doing is like a good idea or not right now. But, you know, I definitely feel for his character. Well, dude, I would say that you're... He's fun. I like. The top comment
Starting point is 00:29:21 is something you said. I know. I screwed up there. Rare is the day where the top comment is a disagreement with John and I'm like, whew!
Starting point is 00:29:34 It's 99.9% of the time it's this guy and then John here for a guy who has called Ben Ilya. Yeah, it was like the first second you saw him and you should have known
Starting point is 00:29:46 that first second you saw me. I should have. I'm going to go back and rewatch this so I know exactly what the moment they're talking about. How dare you? It was the second we got to see Ben and you were like, oh, he must be our Ilya because there was no implication that he was like a bad guy yet or something.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Oh, that's right. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. You messed up. How dare you? I thought, yeah. Ignorant. That was a solid, that was a strong prediction that I was really resting my reputation.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Fool. Yeah. You can't call Bear Riga watch her right now. I apologize. eyes. Oh, never mind. I was way wrong. It was when he kissed another girl.
Starting point is 00:30:26 We knew he was bad and you called him Ilya. Hey, Nick can still be Ilya because he's by. Nick can be I'm being alien now because he's by. Changing it. I'm off the record. I'm on the record. It's not Ben anymore. Ilya is Nick with way better communication skills.
Starting point is 00:30:47 I just, I've never. I was giving you a better. for the doubt. But now, John, now, man, I've messed up. Now, now I, if I haven't done it already, I have thrown you under the bus. That's right, man.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And now I'm going to reverse the bus. I'm a pariah in the queer community. Everyone in the queer community hates me now. Yeah. They're all going to get Tau to come and yell at me. Because when you say, like, if you go to any gay guy, they're like, he called Ben,
Starting point is 00:31:12 I'll be like, who fuck is Ben? Heart Sopper. I don't remember that character. That show from three years ago. True Ben. Ben sucks. Illy as a G. But I bet this is the kind of show that's eventually going to humanize Ben in some way. And now people are going to come at me again
Starting point is 00:31:31 saying it's another hate crime that I would insinuate that he has any humanity in a show that's largely about demonstrating people's humanity. No, man, Ben's gay. Ben's gay. They have to show that gay people can be bad, too. That's right. They can be all the things. Gay people can be bad in the thing
Starting point is 00:31:47 where a lot of good gay people also exist. Yeah. We see a lot of bad gay people where they're the only gay guy. Like the gay villain of something. But like, you know. You know, Javier Bardem in that James Bond movie. The one gay guy in that movie. Or Hans Gruber's gay.
Starting point is 00:32:08 We didn't see him hook up with a woman. We didn't. Not once that whole Christmas party. There's a lot of women at the Christmas party. Hans Gruber. Gay is a should. Jafar. Gay.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Definitely gay. Definitely gay. Scar. Scar is, yeah. Oh, my God. He's an old queen. Hell yeah. Like, oh,
Starting point is 00:32:27 I'm a fossil. Where's my hyenas? I got a bunch of these. I got a, yeah, an army of feral twinks. Where's my gossiping hyenas? Scars just hold out in an abandoned gold gym. Yeah, I like town now. I like Tao now.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I like the new. nuance of Tao. Tau now. I like, I want him and L to hook up. I think they'll be a good couple.
Starting point is 00:32:55 They love each other. All right, guys, well, are you gay? Leave your thoughts down below on what you celebrate your 15th birthday gang.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I want to talk to talk to everyone of y'all personally and private and we'll talk with you soon. Bye. Bye.

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