The Reel Rejects - HEARTSTOPPER SEASON 3 REVIEW –WE WEREN'T READY FOR THIS EMOTIONAL JOURNEY! -First Time Watching!

Episode Date: July 12, 2026

THE BEAUTIFUL COMING-OF-AGE LOVE STORY WE'VE BEEN WAITING TO FINISH! Before Heartstopper Forever arrives on Netflix, Greg Alba & John Humphrey binge Heartstopper Season 3 Episodes 1–8 for the first ...time, experiencing the emotional highs, heartbreaking lows, and heartfelt moments that bring Nick and Charlie's relationship to a whole new chapter. From Charlie's mental health journey and Nick's future decisions to unforgettable romantic moments and powerful character growth, this Heartstopper Season 3 full reaction celebrates one of Netflix's most beloved coming-of-age series. Heartstopper Season 3 (Full Length Watch Along):   / thereelrejects   The best businesses aren’t built in boardrooms. They’re built by people who just started. Free trial at shopify.com/rejects In this Heartstopper Season 3 reaction, Netflix reaction, and review, Greg & John experience the complete third season starring Kit Connor as Nick Nelson (The Wild Robot, Warfare), Joe Locke as Charlie Spring (Agatha All Along, Sweeney Todd), Yasmin Finney as Elle Argent (Doctor Who, Doctor Who: Unleashed), William Gao as Tao Xu (Sunset Blvd., Heartstopper), Corinna Brown as Tara Jones (The Essex Serpent, My Murder), Kizzy Edgell as Darcy Olsson (The School for Good and Evil, Heartstopper), Jenny Walser as Tori Spring (Call the Midwife, Heartstopper), Rhea Norwood as Imogen Heaney (Consent, Your Christmas or Mine 2), Tobie Donovan as Isaac Henderson, and Hayley Atwell (Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning, Captain America: The First Avenger) as Aunt Diane. Featuring some of the series' most emotional moments—including Charlie's healing journey, Nick and Charlie navigating the future of their relationship, heartfelt family conversations, unforgettable romantic milestones, university decisions, and the powerful Season 3 finale—Heartstopper continues to balance hope, love, and authenticity in a way few coming-of-age stories can. With Heartstopper Forever on the horizon, Greg & John revisit the season that lays the emotional foundation for the final chapter of Alice Oseman's beloved story. Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 they's, aces, and otherwise. Welcome back. It's time for a heart stopper season three marathon today. We're going to shotgun through in preparation for the new motion picture event at the computer screen of your summer. I want to, I don't know. There's a movie coming out. We promise we cover this season.
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Starting point is 00:02:56 And, yeah, we got stuff. We're doing things. How are you feeling, G? Feeling good. Are you satisfied? Do you feel like there should have been a bigger cliffhanger, a more shocking end, a big reveal of some kind? Aside from like minor dread as to what the future holds? No.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Okay, good. Was it too gay for you? Why do you? Yes, and. Yes, and. No, it's actually, it's kind of striking in an odd way. I don't know. Like, I feel like part of the journey here on this channel watching more.
Starting point is 00:03:41 romance and, you know, sort of romance novel adapted content, you know, you start to learn that it's not about that always. It's not necessarily the big old cliffhanger or the big war, no, like, you know, it's the subtler tones and the cozier vibes. And this was just such a nice, like, climb to this point. Like, it's kind of striking in this day and age to watch a final episode of something, especially when you know it's about to continue and be like, you know what, this is well earned. You earned this. lovely ending. Like everything where
Starting point is 00:04:14 he's getting upon like from the Ferris wheel to the end, you know, you get a minor bit of worry that they're not going to make the show, but like everything just comes up
Starting point is 00:04:22 Millhousing. Super lovely and sweet. That's true, man. After a season that got into a lot of heavier artillery. In terms of themes. Or would you rank this season?
Starting point is 00:04:34 I don't know. I'm not the ranking expert. I think this one in some ways, hit, I don't know, that's hard. This one hit the hardest in terms of like this had, this was all about navigating sort of, this was like a how to, a version of a how to guide as to like how to confront and support, you know, mental health struggles as we come of age. And I was watching this season in particular, just kind of appreciating the sort of like,
Starting point is 00:05:08 oh yeah, if I was a young person coming of age. and I had this, you know, like I would feel in like somehow comforted or helped. Like, I don't know. It's kind of neat to watch something in this mode specifically that is like aimed at a younger sort of core audience, people who are coming of age. And I feel like the way they handle these themes and the different identities that make up the, you know, ensemble of characters is very deft and compassionate from my limited vantage point. And I feel like maybe I felt that way the most this season.
Starting point is 00:05:45 This season was the most like sort of like, oh, this one's like about some specific things beyond, again, coming of age and queerness. Not to boil everything down. Do you have a ranking in mind? I feel like they've just kind of gotten stronger over time for me. Yeah, it's a 3-2-1. Yeah. You're good at taking what I just said and making it real efficient. That's my job.
Starting point is 00:06:07 3-2-1. I would agree. I would agree. Everything got more likable and more expanded upon. in season two, you know, Tau came into his own, that was a big thing. And, yeah, and then season three, you know, yeah, and
Starting point is 00:06:21 it matches the growth of the characters. It matches, it makes sense. I gotta really, God, I gotta get a, disregard that, whatever that sidebar was gonna be. It does a really nice job of being one of those series of books that ages nicely with its protagonists
Starting point is 00:06:38 and where, like, the complexity grows a little bit for each different walk of life that they're in. So I imagine the movie might be, you know, the most bittersweet because I feel like maybe the cost of such a lovely ending is maybe that we will have, you know, a movie that while I doubt it would get like crushing, you know, may result in them each going off into, or all these characters kind of going off into their own separate timelines. I mean, I anticipate Ellen Tao at least being paired off together, but I don't know if Charlie and Nick would ultimately stay together for the college thing or not. That would be awful.
Starting point is 00:07:18 For them to just make it work. To break up after all this, that would suck. It would. Unless they can earn it. I mean, there's couples who... Anything could work. There are couples who stay together who were high school sweethearts,
Starting point is 00:07:32 and we haven't gotten, I don't know, any, like, gay couple high school. sweethearts. Brother than only straight couple high school sweethearts. But in terms of narrative depictions, usually the high school sweethearts are men and
Starting point is 00:07:46 women. It's hetero. It'd be cool to get like an actual homosexual. Queer high school sweetheart. No, homosexual. Gay specifically. Specifically homosexual. Penis to penis.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Lovers. Yeah. I mean, I feel like the odds do only increase in that like, you know, we live in probably, you know, obviously there are many, a great many dangers out in culture, but you probably have the higher probability that in this day and age it can happen. You know, you might have, you know, some high school sweethearts who are just out and in love and making it happen. Yeah. And, you know, here to perpetuate that, you know, because now it's probably at least a little more, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:31 it's probably a little more amenable for people to be open or people have more of that operational. than they used to have, even though not everybody still has it. That's true. So that's true. I think this one had the most to say. And it supported the entire trajectory of Charlie in particular. If anyone had like a super strong arc, it was Charlie. This stuff of this darkness caving in and all the trauma and him having to learn self-acceptance.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Whilst being in a relationship, I think a lot of stories do these narratives. where they have a hard time with self-acceptance because they're gay, and then they fall in love and everything's fine. And there's like dramas that occur, but ultimately they're fine because they've fallen in love. And this took an approach where it focuses on how even when you're in a relationship, that doesn't mean you're being rescued or saved. you have to still develop yourself and find your own individual identity outside of the relationship.
Starting point is 00:09:42 But that doesn't mean you cannot grow together. That's a big part of it. A lot of people get misconstrued where you feel like, yeah, no, I need to, I mean, I understand if you feel like you have to get to a certain place first. But if you find someone where you can grow together, and that's the whole point. Like, what do you expect to be with someone for fucking years and years and not change? Like, the whole point is that you both can change. And if you can find someone where you're both supporting each other, that's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:10:09 So you see that with Nick also learning how to support, which is a really hard thing to do. I like how this season focus a lot on like how do you encourage, how do you show love and empowerment without trying to fix someone. It's hugely important. It's like a really hard thing to do. Yeah. Like you supporting my statement. Sorry for joking in. No, that's a great new odds.
Starting point is 00:10:35 There's a great nuance because I feel like the ground gets treaded more of like learning self-acceptance and this had a good nuance of that from the Charlie perspective. But I think the Nick perspective is like hugely important because that's harder and is like less the focus often for a good reason. Yeah. But in a story like this, you have a perfect opportunity to make that yin-yang happen. Plus there's so many cameos this season. Yeah, everyone stopped by Peggy Carter. Jonathan Bailey, Hayley, yeah. Jeff.
Starting point is 00:11:04 John loves that guy. Jeff. The guy who plays Michael. Eddie Mars on here. Oh, yeah, Michael. Yeah, he does look familiar. He does look familiar. So, yeah, you know, familiar faces galore.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Your face is a galore. Your face is everywhere. Show must be like super. No, Olivia Coleman. No, Cole. We traded her. Got rid of Ben. Yeah, we got rid of he's dead now.
Starting point is 00:11:20 You got your wish. I do miss hating Ben. I know. The actor hated Ben so much that he was like, I don't want to come back. I do miss it. He was a good villain. He was.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Hey, maybe in the movie he'll swoop back in for some kind of late stage, bit of intrigue. Yeah. I mean, there's still so many things to wrap up. I mean, also I think on a cinematic level, this did the best job. They get towed the right line or didn't get too dark whilst getting dark. The episode that dealt with the perspectives over the passage of time while Charlie was away, I thought was one of their best directed episodes.
Starting point is 00:11:52 It's like well-written too, but in terms of editing and direction, I think that's one of their best. And their personification of all these different creeping feelings, both positive and negative, you know, is really strong. Yeah, and learning how to, you know, in dealing with the actual eating disorder and acceptance of how you look like, a lot of people can relate with that. It's nice to see a story where guys having a hard time, too, with their own body. Sick of watching all those ones about women. Well, I could name so. Well, yeah, right. And I guess, you know.
Starting point is 00:12:28 They're a guy name. I can't think of a single movie. There are all kinds of body types to represent. side of the substance. I got nothing. Oh, fill up the comments, man.
Starting point is 00:12:37 There's got to be at least a film festival's worth. But, but too, I mean, yeah, like, I guess there's a less
Starting point is 00:12:42 obvious body dysmorphia story to be told in a character, like, you know, growing up or when you have less perspective, it can often be seen as like, what's Charlie got to worry about?
Starting point is 00:12:53 He's like totally skinny. And he's got, you can see where his muscles are. He's pretty, you know, it's easy to write that off as like, why would you have body dysmorphia? And so like,
Starting point is 00:13:02 you know, But they're good at like really coming into places from the less obvious angle. And they're really good at depicting the greater situation and letting you sympathize and empathize with like when Charlie, especially in the thick of things when people are like, yeah, I get it. People are like trying to help because he won't reach out for the help. So people feel like they have to help. And you get why Charlie would be like, leave me alone and stop, you know, spotlighting me and making me feel weirder. and then why people would be like, we don't know what else to do.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And like, it's, in life, you're usually on one side or the other of that situation in the moment. And this was really good at, again, I feel like the actual, I watch stuff like this and I'm like, I can see an actual benefit. People often, like, argue, like,
Starting point is 00:13:45 is anything necessary to make? And I'm like, this seems like you could argue necessity in a sense because this gives you a compassionate bird's eye view of a lot of tough life situations in a package that's also not too, doesn't feel like it's being too sanded down for, you know, to lose the nuance or anything,
Starting point is 00:14:05 but that's also easily approachable, you know. True. Like, I'm grateful for it. Sure. Well, we got one. We got the movie and I preview these questions. Yeah. And super fast, but based off the questions,
Starting point is 00:14:19 I don't feel like it was put out that it was a whole season. Ah. Just like looking at the questions. I don't know. I don't know. Let's find out. Okay. We can jump on into Angela Mondragon. I'm so glad.
Starting point is 00:14:38 We're so glad. You're coming back to Heart Stopper before the movie comes out. Season 3 is all about these couples learning about themselves and their relationships. So what are your predictions for each couple? Your Tau gets a sex change to match. Yeah, uh-huh. He transitions. Let's go tell.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Charlie gets He gets really into weightlifting Yeah He's got a lot to work with there He's got to get his Marvel body The sister becomes an alcoholic Yes An alcoholic detective
Starting point is 00:15:12 And a small red I think you'd wrap all this up in like an hour and a half Yeah easily I just got to know how to trim in montage Real simple I just want Isaac to get a best friend Platonically that like perfectly matches exactly what kind of companionship he may or may not need.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Do asexual shaming. Yes. Yeah, let's just totally flip the script at the very end. Hey, Isaac had a good glow up this season. Isaac became very much more secure over time. Okay, okay. Oh, and like, oh, yeah, the whole relationship with Tao and fucking, um, the fake L.
Starting point is 00:15:49 L. Tau L? Yeah, their, their, their relationship was so good. I love. Tau's like such a surprise to me. Yeah. I really had a hard time in the first season. And I really came around
Starting point is 00:16:08 strongly on the second one. And this is the time where like every time you showed up, I'm like, is he my favorite character? He's had such a glow up. And he has really towed. That performer has done a great job. I forget his name. I had a great job of like,
Starting point is 00:16:22 I see where you came from. You still have aspects of the season one Tao, but you're way, way more mature and aware and thoughtful in a different way than you were. And it's really, yeah, it's been very fun to witness. I feel like they'll be okay. I feel like Ellen Tao are going to do their thing
Starting point is 00:16:41 and they're going to be your not 100% purely gay, but they're going to be your high school sweethearts. Charlie and Nick, like I said, definitely breaking up. I think Imogen. Imogen. Huck up. With Sahar or somebody else.
Starting point is 00:16:55 somebody's surprise. I mean, yeah, they've agreed to be friends for now, but they could double back on that, you know? Who knows? And Tara and Darcy, are they going to make it? Or are they going to... I could see them not making it. I could see them not making it.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I could see them not make it. I think obvious. I mean, it was called Hard Stopper forever. Yeah. Yeah. So they all actually ascend and they become... They fuse. Each couple fuses into one...
Starting point is 00:17:20 Yeah, like an infinity stone. Like an infinity stone. and it's actually secretly yeah then then uh nick will be the new captain america all right care bear you're up welcome back to high school gregg and john who nick's half naked run after charlie yes he runs after charlie out of the street is the constant after he says i love him oh yeah yeah i love you in the shower that's the question What did you think of Nick and Charlie's first? I love you.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Is there ever a wrong way to take that step? There has to be, yeah. If the other person's not in love. It's always scary, and if they're not in love, then that's harsh. I think they're wrong approaches. Yes. First date. I love you is probably not the way to go.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Or I just sang it in a place where it's too loud to hear. If you're like on the tarmac, of the of an airport runway you're just like I gotta tell you right now I love you but you're standing next to the big jet engine and it's on uh-huh you know that's just a waste of a good I love you you just put that energy out there to get swept off yeah it's true uh so that'd be pretty bad um if you were like on the witness stand testifying because you're the defendant in a murder case where you killed the person who loves brother and this is the time that you want to reveal your love.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Bad way to do it. Yeah. Bad, I love you. Yeah. I think... If you're married and you're cheating and you say it to that person who you're having a fairwood, but you have like a whole family. Yeah. It's not a good idea.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Bad idea. I love without other person. But in isolation. Okay. I think the I love you turned out very charming. They orchestrated a very nice life type event. They really nicely came up with a... something that felt spontaneously, like, the kind of thing that if it goes well, you would look back fondly on it and go like, oh, yeah, it was so awkward. I was in the shower and I totally took a beat and then I had to run out in the street after. Like, it becomes this charming thing. So I, like, I 100% understood why Charlie would say it through the door and why Nick would, like, take a beat. And I think it was lovely. So I think it worked out as it was meant to work out.
Starting point is 00:19:50 for them. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Care Bears back. Greg and John, with how they began season one. Who could predict? Nick and Tal huddled together on Halloween. Love to see that. That was beautiful.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Nick once said that Tao, quote, loves loudly, and yet in this moment, Tao's love was complete. Question. How does Heart Stopper showcase in high school? Not only the full spectrum of LGBTQ plus love, but the wider spectrum of love,
Starting point is 00:20:21 and human communication, sending you both a virtual mental health hug after a tough app. Yeah, yeah. Maybe they thought we were just watching episode before. Maybe this was originally compiled
Starting point is 00:20:34 in installments. Well, I think the original plan was to do F1 through 4, and we didn't give PLD the update. Oh, okay. So all these questions are up to episode 4. Unless... Sort of.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Now they are, right? Yeah. I think they've... I think that the plan may have been updated, after an initial batch was got or something. Yeah. I mean, I do love that scene. It was a great scene. And I do like the...
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah, what's this? These are different. These are different. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. These are all over the place. All right. Let's not tell the editor.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Yes. You will just have to suffer. It just have to be like, what are they saying in this review? Just transcribe them by hand at this point. that's really I think that's really great that I think that's the thing that like even though asexuality and aromanticism is its own
Starting point is 00:21:27 kind of orientation of the spectrum I think also including that and then stuff with just the friends group in general does open you up to a really nice array of things that is yeah about just a more vulnerable compassionate humanity
Starting point is 00:21:43 you know to have for your friend and to like understand that like if you care for a friend or a loved one and you have a community than that care kind of branches outward and it's you know there's a lot in this season about you know the communal aspects of like great all you couples exist but we're still like a little group unless you want to be friends no more and yeah i love seeing them cuddle and how long it's beautiful i think it's just about understanding that we all have we have to understand who people are and not try to force them to be something
Starting point is 00:22:15 they're not and i think that's what every storyline boils down to hell yeah all right yeah or whatever, Johnson. We'll start speed running. Russian Becker. Bucker. Isaac has finally opened up to the gang, and we hear more from L and Imogen, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:34 I love the show for the fact that we get to hear more from everybody then in the books. Oh, cool. Me too. Those books suck. Fuck them. Which storyline should be explored more? Because of all of an episode four is Tories
Starting point is 00:22:47 and Charlie's brother in the books. Oh, no way. Oh. I would love. I would love for Ben to come back. Ben. I don't think he got, I think justice for Ben. I feel like Ben is the final boss.
Starting point is 00:22:59 And then Charlie and Imogen have to defeat him together. Maybe Ben's getting married in the next one. And they're going to his wedding. Yeah, we're going to a destination wedding where Ben is getting married to Justin Threw. And then they cut off his toe at the end. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I guess like we have Sahar to explore. Mm-hmm. Those two people behind her. and the band who we don't know who they are. Let's get the bass and the guitar player. I think for your final movie, we should explore only new character. Yeah, I think for the final movie,
Starting point is 00:23:31 it should just be a bottle story about Mr. Ajai and Mr. Furu. That would be good. I mean, we have to wrap that. There's a lot of wrap up there. Yeah. But if there's anything that... Jim teacher or more storyline
Starting point is 00:23:43 the gym teacher. I weirdly have, like, so much faith they could pull it off because of that episode that did the passage of time. Yeah. And I was like, oh, wow. they managed to make this like 30 minutes feel very fulfilling and very cinematic yeah whilst only
Starting point is 00:23:58 while spanning several months and then it made me go out they're gonna be able to pull the show and they they had to span a lot of time in the season and i think they pulled it off very very very well better than most shows where it feels like you're cutting a lot of corners and ours too truncated so i'm really excited this truly feels like a labor of love yeah let's read the last one of this batch And then on to the next. There's Stephanie Feldman. Thanks for chiming in. There's been a lot of discourse.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Oh, here we go. I'm excited. Discourse on whether or not Tori should have texted Nick about being worried about Charlie that it makes him needlessly worry when there's nothing he can do about it at the moment. Fucking character police. And putting so much responsibility on his shoulders when he's only 16 and ill-equipped to handle it. Oh, ridiculous. Do you think she did the right thing?
Starting point is 00:24:49 I don't think it matters. It's such an impossible situation because she's so scared and she doesn't know what to do. You're explaining what the answer will be. Charlie won't talk to his parents or her about it at this point because he doesn't feel safe.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Their whole world is each other. And Nick is the only person that Charlie can confide in and share his feelings with, but they're so young. What you have described here is the exact bit of grace that we should all allow, Tori.
Starting point is 00:25:18 It doesn't matter if this is right around. choice sometimes people make a choice yeah my god people what happened what happened to characters just being characters yeah everyone being like what the fuck's wrong about people that's a real thing someone in this city
Starting point is 00:25:33 the way you described to here is so much worse yeah a lot of Tories would just go to Charlie be like I saw your computer yeah exactly exactly you know there's no there's no he already invaded his privacy by going to his computer there's nothing clean to do here and I get
Starting point is 00:25:49 you but at the same time i'm like yeah who does have the best chance of getting through to charlie probably nick so desperate times i understand her completely he has a history of harming himself and the eating disorder is self-harm and he has a history of literally like actually cutting himself so yeah like shut the shut up not you stephanie not you stephanie i'm on your side i know there's like people here listening who definitely don't agree depiction is like not endorsement. Sometimes characters make a choice that, yeah, in real life
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Starting point is 00:28:23 Whoa. Saying hot sauce, not only inspire me, it's inspired people across the world. All right. That visibility, that legitimacy has saved lives. I believe that. I guess that's why you get all these celebrity cameos. Yeah. Why do you think Heart Stopper has been so effective in turning art into action?
Starting point is 00:28:44 Has any media queer or otherwise ever changed? changed your world view. That's a good question. I feel like so much of the way I think can feel was determined by media, honestly. It's kind of hard to like narrow it down. I think so much, I think most of me is determined by that. And it's in conflicting with my upbringing.
Starting point is 00:29:09 That's what it's at. I think friends really taught me about friendship and learning that friends were family. queer media absolutely oh my god no I grew up around like I got fucking
Starting point is 00:29:26 I grew up around real Catholics real you know what I mean you know what I mean yeah the Catholics you don't want to be gay around
Starting point is 00:29:38 like like those guys Catholics and they're friends like that too and I for sure seeing like queerness depicted in media and telling me it was wrong There's one fucking movie that a lot of people don't like,
Starting point is 00:29:52 which in some ways, I remember people saying this is actually bad for the community, but I don't know, it did something for me when I was younger. I now pronounced you Chuck and Larry. You know, what, did it make you a little more open-minded? It showed me, like, stand up for gay people. You know, I really grew up around gay people that much.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Sure. Until, like, I was probably like a teenager and then met lesbians first and then eventually, some guys, but no, I didn't really grow up around that many gay guys. So I think I honestly attribute a lot of my acceptance and undoing a lot of like,
Starting point is 00:30:28 is homosexuality wrong? To media. I would definitely say that. Sure. I mean, and you know, yeah, I'm trying to think, I mean, I certainly had a good, I had a good set of guiding principles at least coming from home, but you know, even as a kid, like, Tuang Fu,
Starting point is 00:30:46 it's like a movie that would, that I wouldn't have been exposed to at a young age or something like that or various movies about i'm trying yeah it's like it's hard to pinpoint any one movie that i could go and be like man before that movie i was so ignorant and then i came out with a greater but like yeah it all encourages you just toward a greater i don't know i've always to boil is super far down i don't know for whatever reason since i was little i've had a taste for just like outside or other underdog characters which you know just given culture and everything, you know, queer characters often can be, characters of color often can be. I think this is a great sentiment, though. This is a perfect example, I would say, of a piece of
Starting point is 00:31:28 media that does a really good job of being a story and, like, touching on the universal anxieties that come from these very bespoke things, and they, like, explain stuff to you in ways that is not too condescending, but that also doesn't do it to such a degree that you shouldn't just go off and do your own research. There's that whole thing with, I don't know. where he's like, it's not my job to teach you. And so I think these are great, you know, it's all end of the day takes is like the right human story.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And I think that, yeah, even though this is so queer-coded in so many ways it is depicting obviously so many queer experiences, like it's just a well-told, compassionate story about characters. And even though they all occupy a different place on the spectrum, a certain amount of what they're dealing with is just normal coming-of-age stuff. And I think that's the sauce is it's that.
Starting point is 00:32:19 It's that age-old thing of like, ah, we're not so different, but you have to demonstrate how that's true. And I think this show really well demonstrates how that is true. I give a lot of credit to the actors. I've watched so many episodes, including the last one going like, God, they're so, it just seemed like so real, like the way they act.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Like, it just doesn't look like they're acting ever. No. You would think they have, like, the easiest job in the world by just how, natural. I'm like, how would they cast perfectly every time? Like everyone. Even when they do ones that are a little bit more caricature like Michael and Torrey,
Starting point is 00:32:56 they, that feel a little bit like they're putting up a performance. You know, there's a little more overtly corkiness to them that feels more television. Most of the time, most of the time, like when fucking, it
Starting point is 00:33:12 really hit me again. Okay, a moment of the episode where it hit me was when Charlie lays on my guy who says a billion times are a sexual friend oh Isaac he lays on Isaac
Starting point is 00:33:24 he's like why are you hugging me I just love you love you selling and they all I don't say it enough I was just looks like fucking real people like just hanging out and they don't like
Starting point is 00:33:32 shoot it all handheld you know yeah so I think because they're portraying teenagers and it feels so real and it's not like
Starting point is 00:33:40 fucking drama it makes it more inspiring to like just hang out with real fucking kids. Well, and it's just so well directed, too. It's like it's well written. It's well directed.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I like to hear that they expanded on everybody because that has paid off well. And it's like they're good at combining the performances that are so in the moment and so spontaneous with these stylistic flourishes that really enhance like a vivid rush of emotion or anxiety or whatever it is. You know, they're good at personifying the struggles in a way that can speak beyond the words or the, you know, specific, you know, things.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Yeah, that's so true. But yeah, I would have to dig for more specific. Two Wongfoo is not the only movie. They would have opened my eyes up to something. Blazing Saddles as a young age. I don't know. You just get that sort of like satire thing. I think those things help.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I don't know. I'll have to dig. What's a good queer piece of media other than Hard Stopper? People should check out to expand their mind. Comment below. Angela Mondragon. Given the challenge,
Starting point is 00:34:45 Charlie and Nick face in this season, both personally and in their relationship. Which episode do you think is most telling for their future? Final episode, yeah. No other way to put it. Nope. I mean, that's the... That's the art. It's the final episode.
Starting point is 00:35:05 What else would be? Charlie's a little more capable of being on his own, and Nick is finding out that he wants to be out there in the world. Yeah. And Charlie's, yeah, I got one more year. I think they're one of some I've heard of couples who sometimes do just take like six months apart but then they come back together and they're married for life that's happened because they have to find this doesn't mean they're like going out like I mean like fuck people or something like they just they yeah they just go yeah they still just go out and find their
Starting point is 00:35:36 individuality and they come back together and I think that's probably what they're going to do I still imagine it'll have a happy ending absolutely Tori Jerry. Sadly, Olivia Coleman couldn't be in the season due to scheduling conflicts. So they used Haley Atwell's character to portray the scenes that were important to the storyline. Do you think Haley did a good job? Would you have liked to have C. Olivia back for those scenes?
Starting point is 00:36:01 How would that work? Oh, yeah. Sorry for a second. She's the mom. Yeah. I think mom advice is good, but I like that he's, he got clinical advice, you know? Yeah, and from a person who is in a position, obviously, to care about him,
Starting point is 00:36:24 but who can be a little more removed than a mom would be. Yeah. Like, I love Olivia Coleman. Would have been nice to see her. But also, it kind of gives it that stepping outside the story. It's sort of like, ooh, season three, new person. It's fun. You know, new family member.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Are all of Nick's family members surprise came? Yeah. So, like, that's fun. But, yeah, I would agree. And you also have Charlie's mom. so it's nice I have a different family member over here. Oh, for sure, for sure. But hopefully she'll be back for the movie.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Get them both back. Unless she's too good. Oh, my God. Cinematic Universe. Cinematic Universe. Secret Invasion meets Captain America, the First Avenger. Yeah. meets Agent Carder.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And then Bree Larson will be in it. Oh, I hate her and her big eyeballs. Close your eyes. God, the red arrows she's always has. Yeah, she just walks around with that red arrow. Always pointing to the big tears coming out of her giant. eyeballs. God damn. Why she always doing that? What's wrong with your eyes? Stop doing that.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Stop getting eye talks. All right. Regine Baker. Is that me again? Is that me again? Isaac has finally opened up to the gang and we hear more from L's perspective. I love the show for the fact that we get to hear more from everybody compared to the books. Which story got a very
Starting point is 00:37:38 simple question. I think we answered this exact question. I think we answered this question. We did. Episode four from Olivia then. We'll go on. Episode four is probably my favorite episode of the whole show. And one of the things I really appreciated was the fact that it showed both Nick's point of view as the carer and supporter and Charlie's point of view
Starting point is 00:37:59 as the individual struggling with their mental health. And that is something you rarely see being portrayed. That is truth. Certainly in regards to showing Nick's struggles during this time as well as Charlie's, what are your thoughts on the fact that they decided to show both POVs over the course of the two months.
Starting point is 00:38:16 which included some very low moments for them both, but ending on a hopeful note after they reunited again. Well, we have talked about this. In a nutshell. Quite significantly. In a nutshell. But I would say, yes, that is literally the episode I cited for why I feel like the movie will be well.
Starting point is 00:38:40 I think wrap-up movies are often not the best call. Why didn't you have, like, a whole? And it's like, what did you do that? Or when you get like less episodes green lip for your final season or something like that. And for this, I think a wrap-up was good because that episode demonstrated they're more than capable and the through line carried on. And in terms of getting both sides, I feel like it's so gratifying and necessary to show that. That is, I think that, I mean, to an earlier question, actually, like if there was an episode that's most telling about their future, would probably be episode four because that is the theme of both of them.
Starting point is 00:39:19 One person learning self-acceptance and how to open up and the other person learning how to support. Yeah. And how to not take it overly personal. It's hard. So yeah, I think it's perfect. I think it's a perfect episode. That is definitely one of the best episodes.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Probably the best episode of the whole show. And it was really well-proportionate. It was well laid out in the order in which they did everything. I would say too. Definitely. Going from those perspectives. Stephanie Feldman. Did me again?
Starting point is 00:39:49 Yay! For Heart Stopper. How do you feel about Heart Stopper tackling? More adult themes. Like divorce? Yes. An alcoholism. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:00 And the heavier feel to the content. Losing a child in a car crash. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A grave AIDS diagnosis. Don't talk about that, Greg. I'm not talking about anyone specific. It has gotten a lot of flags.
Starting point is 00:40:13 from some fans quote unquote over the years for first not being accurate about the gay experience when it was light and fluffy and season one yeah and then when it started tackling heavier themes that it does in season three they got harassment for being too heavy
Starting point is 00:40:29 and being woke if you started a hard stop or woke in season three I think your brain is a little broken I think these things these themes are inherent in the high school experience whether you're LGBT tq plus or not or straight it's all about growing
Starting point is 00:40:47 up but these are all issues in my mind that need to be discussed and represented not gonna lie I don't know if I could watch three seasons of a television show where it's all it's just kind of like fluffy I need I need conflict god damn I need any real
Starting point is 00:41:02 that's why Ben was a good foil yeah it's like every time this fucker shows fucking guy he just always shows up with yeah his his hair swooped in his jacket and he's just like the perfect villain. He is like the most cartoon character of everyone. This was like psychological struggles
Starting point is 00:41:19 that are unique. We're watching someone deal with like an eating disorder. That's so, that's so unique. And, you know, in a school where everyone's gay for some reason. And I like it. I like it a lot. That was great. Yeah. I think the more adult themes that's actually my one concern with the movie that it's probably just going to be like
Starting point is 00:41:35 a light, fluffy 90 minute piece which is like a minor concern. I probably enjoy that as a movie. for a television show that's what makes it like dramatically intriguing. Yeah, I trust them enough to make it a good blend of everything up to now.
Starting point is 00:41:52 But yeah, I don't know. Like again, like I said, I think it's like it's not inappropriate to have it start softer. Like I hate, I got to find some other reference for obvious reasons than Harry Potter because obviously.
Starting point is 00:42:06 But like there's those those stories or I'm sure like Percy Jackson or something must do this. where they get a little more mature as the character grows up from year to year in school. I feel like part of the hallmark of doing any school-oriented story is that it probably will start out a little lighter and then get a little more mature as the characters grow.
Starting point is 00:42:27 So I don't know. Like, again, it's weird. Not everything needs to be a monolith. It's like season one, yeah, isn't every gay experience. I'm sure some gay experiences or queer experiences may match this level. I love gay experience. level and some are harsher and you know i think this show has been pretty good at at least yeah dialing some of those things up maybe accepting some of that feedback over time uh and yeah i don't
Starting point is 00:42:52 think that anything heavy they've tried has gone and broken the boundaries of what has been established before i don't feel like they've jumped any sharks so to speak i agree you know so i agree there you have it final question you guys check it out Check it out. Yep. Nikki Sonrisa is asking something that we haven't been asked yet. I really love the structure of episode four. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:20 See Charlie's struggle through Nick's eyes. Do you think this was an effective way to tell the story? Hondo P. I've been lying this whole time. Screw that. Fuck that episode. Wasted time. That was a piece of dody.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Didn't like it. Not one bit. I thought it was too artistic. I thought it was too gay. and not gay enough. At the same time. At the same time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Get your mental health propaganda out of my face. I think it's, I love how everyone's talking about it, and I'm glad that we love that episode because, you know, we watch us in a giant binge over the course of a couple days, so this was, like, really cool to see that we all are on the same page as you guys, I would say. Absolutely. And I'm glad to know that Jonathan Bailey shouts out to Care Bear.
Starting point is 00:44:08 he publicly appealed for his role so that he could help add to the queer representation that he wanted to see as a kid. See, I feel that. This is the labor of love. I'm sad if anyone's getting out like, you know, yeah, there are a million of different ways to tell a story.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I'm sad if people are dogging on a hardstopper. It's got his heart in the right place and you can tell whoever's making it. Yoros Lynn and the gang seem to very much care about all this. Uh-huh. I'm not worried about the finale. I think it's going to be good.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Guys, if you think it's going to be good. Guys, if you think it's going to be good, let us know your thoughts. Any other thoughts you have, let us know that we're wrong or right. We love you and we'll see you for the movie. See you next week.

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