The Reel Rejects - HEAT (1995) MOVIE REVIEW !! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

Episode Date: May 21, 2024

IT'S GOT.. A GREAT CAAAST!!! Visit https://www.asteproallergy.com/ to Save on Allergy Relief! Heat Full Movie Reaction Watch Along:  https://www.patreon.com/thereelrejects With a sequel in the works... from Director Michael Mann (Manhunter, Collateral) set to star Austin Butler & Adam Driver, John Humphrey and Aaron Alexander, at long last, give their FIRST TIME Reaction, Commentary, Breakdown, & Spoiler Review for the classic Crime Epic - and the first film to feature both Robert De Niro (Raging Bull, Taxi Driver) & Al Pacino (The Godfather, Scarface) as co-leads! The film also features Val Kilmer (Top Gun, Batman Forever, Real Genius), John Voight (Anaconda, Deliverance), Ashley Judd (Kiss the Girls, Bug, Double Jeopardy), Tom Sizemore (Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk Down), Wes Studi (Deep Rising, The Last of the Mohicans), Dennis Haysbert (24, Major League), William Fichtner (Armageddon, The Dark Knight), Hank Azaria (Mystery Men, The Simpsons, The Bird Cage), Danny Trejo (Machete, From Dusk Till Dawn), Tom Noonan (Robocop 2, The House of the Devil), Natalie Portman (Black Sawn, Leon The Professional, V for Vendetta, & MORE! John & Aaron React to all the Best Scenes & Most Intense Moments including the Heat Restaurant Scene, Armored Van Heist, The Sun Rises and Sets with Her, Heat Shootout Scene, Neil and Eady, Drive-In Shoot Out, Look at Me, The Action is the Juice, The Coffee Shop Scene, and BEYOND! Follow Aaron On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealaaronalexander/?hl=en Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Music Used In Manscaped Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:02 the Spotify, any other place you might get your audio podcast entertainment. Leave us a rating. Leave us them stars. Aaron. Heet. Michael Mann. Robert Pacino, Al De Niro. Yes. Danny Kilmer and Val Trejo. Yep. And Dennis Hayesbert. I was just going to be Dennis Hayesbury. What did you think of the movie? What did you think of this? Oh, man. I thought it was really good. I thought it was great, man.
Starting point is 00:02:35 It had that slow build in the beginning, you know, like setting up the stage, setting up the pieces, letting us live in this, like, 90s L.A. atmosphere. And we got to see both the differences in the parallels between Al Pacino's character and Robert De Niro's character and just how poetic it was getting to see where it would end up with them because they kind of foreshadowed that in the movie and I'm surprised that we had an entire movie starring both of them and they really only had like two scenes
Starting point is 00:03:05 together. Yeah. Yeah. Which is pretty impressive. I'm not sure if this is an adaptation of a book or not, but I like the fact that we get to see these two dudes that are so similar on the opposite sides of the law. Yeah. And the fact that they are both people who are leaders in their own right addicted to the
Starting point is 00:03:23 lifestyle they've chosen for themselves. and yeah it was before um he decided to go on the run i was like i thought it was going to be this thing we're like oh wow robert robert de nero is finally letting people in like these connections because he he knows that uh he's become become part of him like these these like his brother like val kilmer and the fact that he has this girl and like he needs to have that connection well alpachino learns to like let go and like you know I know this is a lie for me. I have to be this lone wolf.
Starting point is 00:03:57 But it turns out he stuck true to what he said. And De Niro, the fact that when the heat's on your back, you got to dip out, you know, leave the people that you care for behind. And like, man, it's such a, it's, it's poetic and it's tragic in a way. But yeah, I love the way that this movie establishes its characters. I love its dialogue. And I love the way that it really lives in its music. The music is like the other. character in this movie. There's like the literal characters. There's the city of LA and then there's
Starting point is 00:04:29 the music. Yeah. And I think it kind of excelled in all those things. And I said as we're watching it, this movie really was really good in the first hour. But once we got into the nitty gritty of it, once we got into that cat and mouse thing with De Niro and with Pacino, I thought it really elevated and it really like kicked into high gear. And I was just like locked in the entire time. Before we started filming, like, just little behind the scenes thing, I was, like, pretty tired going to this. I'm coming straight from my other job. And I was, I was like, oh, no, like, am I going to be pulling a classic air? I'm going to go, fucking, a little sleepy.
Starting point is 00:05:07 But no, I did not. I've done that to too many videos, but I did not get sleepy or tired because I was locked in. The power of cinema. It was so good. The power of cinema. Yeah. And delicious treat. I don't, I haven't seen a ton of Al Pacino and De Niro's early work.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I've obviously grown up with them in certain films and in recent years and I've seen some of the classics but not a lot of them. Jack and Jill Meet the Falkers, of course. The classic, you know, the real classics. The ones that everybody loves. Sorry, I should say, but Rocky Bowlwinkle. Rocky Bowlingle. Rocky, but I thought they were both great in the movie. Even though they are very similar with their intentions, I think they chose interesting choices for their performances.
Starting point is 00:05:54 And that scene where they were in the diner together was a really needed scene. Yeah. Because it really, it should, it kind of put first and foremost that parallel between the two. Oh, they did another movie together. I didn't know that. Righteous killed. Never seen or heard about that one. There's a reason for that.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Oh, no. It's bad. I don't remember it being very good. I think me and Greg went and saw that in the theaters maybe a long time ago. Was that a 2010? Is that a 2000s movie? some it sounds like it 2000s or the 2010s or something like
Starting point is 00:06:27 it's probably a 2000s maybe late 2000 I'm not as good at pinpointing dates but yeah I remember a lot older it was that thing like oh my god and I remember when that movie came out it was that thing of like well they've been on screen together technically because in heat they have the one scene
Starting point is 00:06:43 which I hadn't even really remembered until we got to that scene I was like oh wait a minute you know but yeah right righteous kill is an interesting choice of a movie and uh yeah the supporting cast left a greater impression on me it was like donnie walberg and 50 cent and like those guys like
Starting point is 00:07:06 and john like wasamo i think is in it and i feel like they felt like they were all part of like a movie and then robert de Niro and alpacito felt like they were part of something else and it just it wasn't this suffice to say but hey maybe you should react to it oh man maybe people really want some righteous kill content. If the people want it, like, I'll gladly. Far be it for me to deprive the people of their righteous kill. But yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I'm purely a servant of the people. If the people demand it, then I shall be obliged. But you did not make it sound too appealing, so I don't know about that. That's just how I remember it, you know? We could look up the ride tomatoes and see if it's worth it. But yeah, no, I agree with all. of the uh the sentiments that you've just echoed about this this movie uh it's yeah this is the rich killing out of 18% oh audiences and critics hated it 2008 not not super great uh but yeah like
Starting point is 00:08:07 this was a fascinating movie to finally see because obviously this heat is part of the cultural lexicon you know you're aware of it as being like one of the quintessential crime epic movies you know one of the defining films of this particular genre and by a filmmaker who certainly at least up to a certain point was one of those guys who was innovating and whatnot. And I feel like it's interesting to note, looking at this, you had that one
Starting point is 00:08:33 little shot towards the end in the hotel room when he's about to kill, what's his name, Wayne Groh, when he's about to commit a righteous kill, where you have that POV angle and it looks it was clear that that wasn't film. And I feel like that was like a proto.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Later Michael Mann, I know he really got on board using digital video cameras and stuff like that to, you know, just sort of change the process of how he makes his films and then, and thus the aesthetic and stuff like that. And so I wonder if that was a very early test of what, you know, you might be able to do with that technology that you couldn't do with, say, a big, you know, lunky film camera, especially for the 90s, I assume big lunky film camera. Because you look at collateral, which certainly has more of a video kind of style. And then you have stuff like public enemies, which is like super video, super handheld, super. Isn't
Starting point is 00:09:23 That a Johnny Depp? Yeah. And it kind of clash, to me, it kind of clashes with that movie because it's like it does give you the sort of sense that you're there. But also at the same time, you're like, this kind of camera didn't exist at all back then. So like who's who is to account for the like, you know, it creates kind of a dissonance on that movie. But yeah, seeing this, beholding this and kind of being here for, you know, the full duration after again, just the cultural osmosis of knowing the status and. the stature of this. It's one of those movies that, to me, is like, kind of, it's exactly what you expect,
Starting point is 00:10:00 but not what you expect at the same time. And I guess what I mean by that is, you know, this has all of your classic crime drama thriller elements to it. Obviously, you've got multiple heists, you've got double crosses, you've got, you know, the thin line between law and, you know, crime and the people, you know, it takes to catch, you know, these top-tier criminals. criminals probably have to have a certain level of that sort of grit to their own methodology and their own spirit and all that stuff. You know, you can see how like a training day derives out of this. You could, you could very much see. In fact, like Heat now having seen this seems like a, like one of the main inspirations they went with for something like the dark night. Oh, yeah. You know, minus the fickner bit. But, you know, it really is kind of like you're watching a version of a great, you know, a great detective and a master criminal. going after each other, you know, so there is sort of that Batman jokery thing there that you
Starting point is 00:10:59 could easily at least transcribe those characters onto. But, but yeah, what I balance of gripping about this is that it is quite thoughtful in its own way. Like, it has all the harshness and all the, you know, pulp elements that you expect and want from your crime heist movie. And, you know, a lot of trappings of the era, because, you know, we're in the period of time where it's like Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction would have come out and I feel like you're having sort of a new wave of these grittier crime movies arising and then that'll eventually give way to, you know, training day, traffic, et cetera. And, and yeah, I really appreciated how this, this almost reminded me of the experience of watching something like Man on Fire. And Man on Fire is a much more kinetic movie in terms of style. But it's a film that takes a genre that is easy to do straightforward and to do well in a straightforward.
Starting point is 00:11:53 fashion, but where it sets itself apart and where it excels is by really steeping you in the tone and the environment and just like the life that this involves living, if that makes any sense. And so, yeah, here, I really appreciated that, yeah, you have all the elements of, you know, the police investigation and that, you know, the cat side of the cat and mouse game. You have the crime side of the cat and mouse game. But I appreciated that throughout this, they would take these. moments to check in with, okay, what's the significant other of this guy doing? What's the
Starting point is 00:12:27 significant other of this guy doing? And it just kind of quietly reminds you, just visually reminds you of those kinds of stakes in a way that isn't as dependent on speech and dialogue and exposition. There's certainly that stuff when we're getting rundowns of like, what's the operation? I want these guys here. I want these guys watching this exit. But yeah, when it comes to like the real emotional life of these characters, while it isn't, yeah, like the talkiest movie in terms of characters having outbursts and being like, ah, my motivation, you know, you get still a lot of richness, I think, out of the acting and out of the things that they choose to show you in these little moments between things. And so it has just a lot of atmosphere
Starting point is 00:13:08 in that regard. And it has a lot of these moments where you can just sit there quietly. Like, I loved, I don't associate this. Again, I don't have the full, you know, filmog under my belt, but I don't associate moments that are sprinkled throughout this movie with my, Michael Mann's filmmaking much. I think if you watch something like a collateral, to me, as I recall, that does have certainly a greater sense of kineticism, but it also does have those thoughtful beats in between. And there were just so many times during this movie where they would let the camera roll on
Starting point is 00:13:39 something and just kind of let you be in the moment for a real minute, or not like a full 60 seconds, but like a real beat where it's clear, it's not like, okay, chop, chop, we got to move this along. Like that late shot, and it's just one example of many, but it's like that wide shot where De Niro and A.D. are like off the highway and you just see their little silhouettes and this tree and the skyline and they're in this remote location. We hold for a while on this kind of desolate shot of their silhouettes as we're about to figure out whether or not to go on the run together or whatever. And then we cut in to him facing off that way and her facing us. And even then, it takes a while for the dialogue to begin. And it's like stuff like that felt like it was given full carte blanche to breathe in a way that, yeah, like makes this feel distinct and, you know, cinematic in another way. Again, we've seen thrilling heists and shootouts and stuff, but even the way that this contrasted between, yeah, what's the life outside of all this? And so much of what populates the screen is, you know, the crime and the pursuit they're in.
Starting point is 00:14:50 But yet, you know, so much of what is maybe less spoken about but as often depicted is, yeah, like what is the life surrounding all of this? And even though, you know, De Niro seems to be certainly like on a better rung spiritually in some ways than Pacino is, you know, like who is, I don't know, just like the line between them. It's, it reminded me too, again, of like a training day where it's like, you know, Pichito can't be like the cleanest cop ever. but to get these guys and to pursue this level of crime, you can't be. You know, you have to get your hands dirty. And just, yeah, I thought it really depicted this whole kind of spider web of circumstance and things really nicely. And two, like coming from that opening prologue where you get that heist bit done
Starting point is 00:15:38 with the wangro guy and things not going well with him and they pay him off. He's just like, I just want this guy out of my life. I just want to pay it off and out of here. and that becomes the thread that ties it all back around you know and I was thinking at the beginning I was like can you effectively pay a guy like this off
Starting point is 00:15:56 to where he'll just never be a problem for you again and you know poetically speaking no but also I think pretty realistically probably not and yeah I thought the way they played all that out here was really nicely handled. Asked a pro and go it's faster bro
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Starting point is 00:18:20 and the way that those things were kind of represented. Choice, obviously, with Al Pacino and De Niro. Vincent and Neil. Yeah. Thank you, IMDB. Vince Neil. Vince Neil. Hurrah.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yeah, with their choices to pursue this life and to, I'm, I, guess walk away from the things that would bring them a sense of joy or would bring them a sense of peace you know same thing with um donald uh all state guy that broke my heart that really broke my heart yeah and just watching that whole mini side story kind of play out because he hadn't out he had a chance to walk away from his life and chose to return uh same thing with like the wives of Val Kilmer's character and Natalie Portman, you know, because of the causality of these other character's choices, they were in a place of neglect, which put them in positions, obviously, they wouldn't want to be in.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Obviously, Nadiportman with her, her neglect and depression that she's going through. Yeah, and her ideations. Yeah. Which is something that, like, isn't, it's an interesting use of perspective because that could to feel very sort of like, whoa, out of nowhere, here's just a random thread we have to deal with, but I feel like because so much time is spent on how consumed these guys are with the pursuit of whatever it is, it's either the score or, you know, the perp, essentially, the pursuit encompasses so much of what you're focusing on that, yeah, it does feel like, oh shit, of course,
Starting point is 00:19:58 you just weren't around for any of this. And mom probably isn't in her own way, too. Yeah. And so, yeah, things like that, I thought were nice. handle because again it could feel just like tacking on another hurdle for a character and here it felt like a real
Starting point is 00:20:12 a real life moment I guess yeah I was going to say also the neglect with with the wife Valcomer's wife yeah yeah with Ashley Judd yeah also I like the fact that this movie even despite the fact that it has a lot of characters it wraps everything up in a
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Starting point is 00:20:58 three scenes with her in this movie yeah right in those three scenes you kind of got the the whole story of her arc and you can imagine what was happening outside of the time we were spending with her. Yeah, 100%. And again, it's fascinating
Starting point is 00:21:19 because, yeah, there isn't that much time with those people. And, you know, Danny Treo leaves and you're like, oh, damn, bummer. And it's good at hiding things like that too. It's like, okay, he's got to, you know, leave to go pull the cops away on some kind of goose chase. And you feel like, okay, well, that's at least, that's a boost for us
Starting point is 00:21:35 the moment but then that probably opens the door for them to get him alone to you know torture him and his you know in his uh his lady and yeah it's like you get it and there's so much about that whole thing about attachments and they're all trying to live that made man life and it's it's not like a meta element but you can think of like oh man you know you think of movies like goodfellas and other things that are you know in the more organized crime pocket of crime thriller cinema and you're like, you know, so many of those guys are trying to have the family and trying to have, you know, like, the established life. And here, you're in a situation where, like, it seems very reasonable that that's probably going to get you in trouble. And that's probably going to lead to a lot of pain for not only you, but anybody you bring close to you.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And, yeah, watching as all of them, including De Niro, can't fully live up to that because it's just a piece of the human spirit, I think, is just everybody wants some kind of. of companion unless you're like it's funny if al Pacino was on that side of the line he probably would have just left and it would have been like he probably would have gotten away with it at least as they're characterized here and it's and it's interesting and like that moment with denierre at the end when he's you know basically through expression saying goodbye to 80 and she's realizing what's happening like there's so much you know it's all just in looks but it is that thing of like oh i see it's not just about you got to be able to drop it in 30 seconds and never come back or you know leave and never look back uh it's not just a self it is a selfish thing but it's not only that it's like
Starting point is 00:23:13 you got to be able to leave so that hopefully maybe this will not consume her entire life as well and when it's clear that we can't do this together yeah you know that he's gonna fight but be the one accepting of fate uh instead of yeah trying to pull her into a situation where they're both going to die or something like that. Yeah, because he'd be on the run. And freaking Val Kilmer just gets away. He just gets to live. He's just out there.
Starting point is 00:23:40 He's going to perpetuate his gambling addiction somewhere else in a new life. Yeah. And yeah, so it's like there are these threads. And you know that it at least has to come down to a showdown between De Niro and Pacino at the end. But there's, yeah, there's just a lot that feels, again, nicely proportioned and nicely spread out in a way where you really feel, again, at least some of the time that it takes. A, to plan a heist, and B, to track and surveil people and get the right evidence, the right incriminating, you know, whatever you need to be able to actually make the move and not have it be, you know, ruled as, you know, malpractice or breach of the law or whatever in pursuing this guy.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Like that line they ride there is, is great. And I think it motivates, yeah, a lot of the time and space spent. And two, you know, the way the stakes, as each job goes, get higher and more all encompassing, you know, you have that big bank heist in the middle and them all agreeing like, we could walk away from this. You know, we've all made a bunch, except for you, Valcomer, because you've gambled it all the way. And it's that thing. There's also that in there is like none of these guys can help themselves. None of these guys can just say enough is enough. And I will turn back at this point of no return.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And it's like there's so many opportunities where you could. And that ultimate decision at the end, I think is a quality movie moment because so many of us, I'm sure, are sitting there watching it going, do not go back to the hotel, just leave on the plane. Do not. And we never find out if, you know, John Voight is on the level or not, you know, thanks to that. And yeah, it's just like, God, man, I get it. You don't want to have any loose ends. Who knows if this guy will find you down the line. But also, like, as good as you are, it seems like you could just slide well off the map.
Starting point is 00:25:24 and and oh yeah it's tragic it's there's a lot of poetry and a lot of tragedy in this movie and it's one of those yeah like that the man on fire comparison was was yeah just that it's like there are a lot of really straightforward that's a you know sort of revenge movie this is you know a heist movie there a lot of straightforward really fun and snappy heist movies and the choice that you know a movie like this makes is to go yeah let's let's do all that stuff but let's also like really make this a character piece and let's you know put some thematic elements in here that you know we don't have to spray in your face but you can kind of sit here and just bask in the the cold sort of i don't know there's like a little bit of magic but most
Starting point is 00:26:06 of it is just cold hard circumstance and just like little things going wrong and like who can you trust and and you know one little leak in the ship can cause the whole thing to go down it's real fascinating real it definitely lived up to its you know beefy cinema you know reputation also just want to shout out the tone loke was in here shout out tone loke who is the other informant guy who's uh isn't he like a musician well I don't they pick that picture is IMDV photo I don't know but yeah like you know actors certainly but also musician I believe
Starting point is 00:26:38 and yeah this had also too like a really cool I think they had a really nice cast of uh you know recognizable character actors and faces and obviously you have like most of your heavies as like the main players but uh You got to see if that guy is part of it. I know, I know. I keep trying to find his character name. I don't know if it's... Go to Forrest Gump.
Starting point is 00:26:58 I was just going to Forrest Gump. Find it. Yeah, he was Papa. Wow. I called it. Wow. I called it. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I'm doing okay. I'm doing okay out here. But yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And just like the way this is shot is really... Again, it's film. You know, this isn't video Michael Mann just yet. But, yeah, like, the way it used their aerial shots, the way it used the...
Starting point is 00:27:20 city the way it made LA or you know at least you know this this patch of mostly California barring the couple other places we go to you know it felt real distinct do you point that out early on you were like is this LA and I was like yeah this is one of those like LA is certainly a character movies there are Bob's big boy half the time and yeah yeah just like a bunch of great has got a great cast yeah it's like you have a lot of players of the time but you also have a ton of other character actors and people that guy is you know as you call them you like people whose faces you know there's like west studie in here and tom newin's in here and and you know like people recognize hankazaria certainly um but yeah just like
Starting point is 00:28:01 so it freaking henry rawlins just like i wonder what those little casting decisions uh came down to uh because yeah there's just so much personality without ever feeling like anything is too much or too out of place or anything like that and and for a crime movie this kind of feels like it toes a certain line between yeah like it is gritty and street level and they're doing a lot that is like when they get into that shoot out of the bank like it is really stark and the
Starting point is 00:28:28 gun fire is like death it feels deafening also streets that was very visceral as well yeah and you know they blocked off those streets to shoot that and and yeah just like you feel the power of the artillery and so like the whenever crime is like actively happening it's never
Starting point is 00:28:44 played for like oh how cool you know it just it makes a very interesting back and forth for like who do i root for and why you know because like the element of law and crime almost fade to the background in some ways in certain ways totally um so yeah i like that um that the movie well one i feel like if that happened in real life that'd be like major news yeah there's a shoot out after a bank robbery downtown yeah yeah um i forgot what i was gonna say God, just those little, sorry, I saw Ashley Judd's name, which made me think. Because like the back and forth of that, too, like her, like, you get why she would be fed up and wanting to be anywhere else but here.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I like that they just randomly chose to make Hank Azaria terrible. She just, like, found an alternate dude who's the worst. So then you're like, well, this guy's on the level, I guess, but he sucks. And then you got Val Kilmer who just can't help himself, but does seem to love her, you know. And then she lets him go, you know, she gives him that little push. And sometimes, yeah, it's like all it comes down to. is just something little tiny like that. And you really feel, yeah, like the way mortality, all of it hangs on a thread, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:54 No, totally. Yeah. Some great camera work, some great lens players, some great, like, long lenses for certain things. You know, some great musical elements, too, because this definitely has that sort of 90s noirish. Like, we got some electric guitars in here, but we also got, like, beats coming in. And as much as there is, like, a quirk to some degree. when you think of, again, the timbre of some of these music cues. For the most part, I thought it is of the time.
Starting point is 00:30:22 But I think it's, I don't know, it really suited this movie well. You know, you feel just the kind of, it suggests that imagery of, you know, the streets, especially like, you know, the L.A. style streets where you're going from like, oh, this is like a nice affluent area to like, oh, here's some place really run down. You know, here's an overpass. You're just underneath. Yeah, yeah. Like every element of this came together, I thought really nicely.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I thought it was nicely edited, nicely paste again for two hours and 50 minutes, like did not feel ever like it crawled. I was always, you know, entranced for the most part by it. And I agree. I think like, you know, as it started out, you know, I was like, yeah, this is cool. This is good. And then about halfway in, you're like, oh, shit. I remember I was going to say, I was going to say, I was going to say the fact that this movie was a slow burn in the beginning, even though it had things constantly going. It made the action scenes more impactful.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Totally. Because it was so sparing. Totally. There's like, there's like, all right, with the slow build, like, we're, we, nothing really happened, like, as far as action wise. Maybe that at the beginning scene where, like, they, uh, took the, they heist that truck, that truck. But then when we get to, like, the meat of it, it's like, oh, wow. We're like, damn, we're like an hour and a half into this. I'm like, this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:32 This is exciting. It's all this. I think it's just about, like, all the stress headaches and problem solving between the few moments of action when you're actually doing the height. Like, I think that's, it's, it's like a tipping of the balance of that because so many things are, like. It's about the planning, and it's about, like, really relishing in the heist or the robbery or whatever it is. And here, there's definitely that stuff, but this has that element of, like, a pulp fiction or a, or more like a reservoir dog's where it's like, okay, we're going to watch this all go to shit. We're going to watch this all go wrong. These guys, you know, you could derive a coolness factor out of them if you want to, but the movie's not portraying them that way.
Starting point is 00:32:07 You know, you don't get any sort of cool suit up montage or slow-mo walk any place, you know. And so, like, you, I think the proportionality of when you're, you know, away from the actual action and just kind of dealing with the tension of that. It's like, yeah, these guys are almost only in the zone or kind of free of all the stuff up here when they're, you know, guns in hand and, you know, the adrenaline's pumping. And, yeah, it's a very interesting. I'd be curious to watch it again and just kind of note the perspectives because, yeah, it's like, you know, it's an ensemble movie and you have these two titans kind of leading it. kind of co-leads leading it and yet yeah so much of it kind of again there are things that could feel random but that also felt quite natural to me just because again of where the mindset of all these people would be you know on whichever side of the law they're all kind of consumed and
Starting point is 00:32:57 focused on this so even the life outside that you know you're theoretically trying to gain all this capital to live for it doesn't really seem like it's much of a priority for them so yeah it's it's a fascinatingly structured and characterized movie yeah um because yeah like on paper i could see how some of this might feel like disparate or unrelated but in practice on screen in motion you know and with such an assured hand you know guiding all this yeah like everything feels like it's all part of one big piece you know and you can yeah you can feel the poetry just as much as the grit so yeah yeah man i feel it i feel it too i feel it too i'll run any other stray thoughts before we leave the people uh oh this was a great movie uh let us
Starting point is 00:33:43 know what fun facts you know about this movie are any interesting little tidbits or your experience with the movie because yeah we had a great time and i hope you guys had a great time watching it too absolutely man hey before we get out of here why don't we do a little patron of the day pick a name any name a name i big lex let's let's listen let's if anyone's going to join our team for a heist. It's going to be you, all right? I feel like you got the good succinct one word name. You got the mononym going. But it's also a catchy, cool name. And I feel like that's what makes a true criminal or a true master criminal, I should say. You've got to have good branding. You're a cool, Lex, but you know Luther. Yeah, that's true. You're not a bold
Starting point is 00:34:36 narcissist who hates Superman. You're one of the good ones. That's right. That's right. And that's why you would be an asset to the team. We know you're not going to squeal. No. You know, we know that you're not going to be so self-serving as to just drop us at a moment's notice for your own personal gain, Lex. That's right. You're a patron.
Starting point is 00:34:52 You're loyal. You're a team player. That's what we value you. That's why you're here. That's why you're one of the good guys, buddy. You're the Danny Trejo of this team. You're the Danny Trejo and he has good tacos. He does.
Starting point is 00:35:02 And I'm sure you have good tacos too. Got donuts. And some really bomb horchanta, if I do say so myself. Yeah, he's got a hot sauce, Danny Trejo. got all sorts of stuff so you know fate in this movie aside that's actually plus you'll be in like 100,000 movies of your Danny Treo now you're not in
Starting point is 00:35:18 the universe Danny Treo now you're just regular Danny Trejo you're just regular Danny Trejo and like some of your characters will be named by your actual name like here like in this one like in the movie heat you're cool we love you thanks for being here thanks for sticking with us you could leave at any
Starting point is 00:35:36 time 30 seconds walk out like it's nothing you're done but you don't and we appreciate you for it forever a super sexy royal reject and yeah keep on keeping on be well and we'll talk to you next month

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