The Reel Rejects - HELLBOY II: THE GOLDEN ARMY (2008) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:24 No, I don't have anything to say. All right. I'm going to do my John Blackthor. Oh, that was good. I liked it. I think we're going to watch Elbow II, the Golden Army.

Starting point is 00:01:34 Let's do it. I still love, love, love the first film. Yes. I think I like this one better, though. Yeah, I mean, the... Seth McFarland? Who is he? We're going to look that up

Starting point is 00:01:51 when we get to the fun trivia. I think that the practical, like, monsters and creatures in this were outstanding. This budget had to be increased, like doubled. Yeah. Like that was amazing and the choreography, phenomenal. Oh, is Danny Elfin this time?

Starting point is 00:02:09 Because in the first film, I believe it was Marco Beltrami. Okay. So it's cool to see that they got Danny Elfman. That's cool. Yeah, no, I agree with you. As I mentioned many times, as much as I still love that first film, again, the Rasputin fight with the big CGI monster took me a little out of it. But this film, I think Yermo Deltore, again, I don't know at the time because I didn't see it.

Starting point is 00:02:30 Maybe he heard criticisms about that, but hold on. Nope, no scene yet. Oh. I would still wait just for the end credits, but we can turn it down a little bit. Yeah. I do like that the, you know, we obviously, we had that scene with John Hurd at the beginning. We get the Hellboy, that flashback. That was really cool because I always wondered about that in the first film.

Starting point is 00:02:52 I'm like, I kind of wish we got a little bit there, but I get that they couldn't really focus too much on that. But that was cool to get a little bit of a taste into what their life was. a little bit like, and that story you gave him. With his dad. And again, that was effective, like that clay animation. I thought that was very effective use of it. And again, it was a good way to save some money there. And then just, like, set us up for what we were in for later on with the Golden Army.

Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah. And also, too, just giving us the backstory of, like, who the villains are, what's at stake and what the story is going to be about. It was a good structure for the rest of the film. I liked all that. Yeah. That was great. Totally.

Starting point is 00:03:28 And just again, in her alternate. reality for me. I'm like, damn it, I wish we would have got my Hobbit with, with Guillermo D'Oro. But having said that, I like how we started off the film. You know, we had to set up a little bit of a character arc with a Hellboy. You know, he's more of a, more of a narcissist a little more in this film. I would say he's not really paying attention to Liz. I mean, he got the toothbrushes and cat food and all that other stuff. And also, too, I like the whole identity crisis as well in terms of like, hey, I just want to be out in the world. Yes, Liz is important to me even if I'm not showing it in a way that it comes off as love. But again, the whole identity

Starting point is 00:04:09 crisis, I think that's something a lot of us can relate to it. Not in a way in Hellboy's case, but still, then like now he's doing these heroic acts and like people are like, the cops are pointing guns at him. The people are throwing stuff at him. No one's thanking him. And it's interesting, too, and we got that scene where he went, the troll world, whatever, whatever world that was called with so many cool practical effects with the makeup and all that was awesome. But nobody was judging him. I thought that was a very, again, effective. You always talk about it. It's effective storytelling, visual storytelling without any dialogue that's going on.

Starting point is 00:04:43 Yeah, we did have a line of dialogue from how boy we were saying, my God, no one's saying anything. Look at me. We did have that one line. But again, it was Ron Perlman's facial expressions and emoting that was really selling it for me on top of that. line. I got a lot more to say, I do want to hear what Tara has to say about the film. Yeah, I do agree. I also feel like along with Hellboy, we get to see him move into this aspect of being very selfish, kind of ignoring his relationships, especially, you know, with his girl, which sucks. And then that's obviously going to kind of tear them apart. But I like how in this story, we followed Abe a little

Starting point is 00:05:18 bit more. Like, it was very obvious that Abe was falling for the princess. And I really enjoyed that story because Abe being his best friend, like we were saying, Abe's like the therapist for everybody, right? It's who Jeffrey Tambor, I forget his name, but who Jeffrey Jamboar talks to him, right? Hellboy talks to him. What is her name, his girlfriend? Liz?

Starting point is 00:05:39 Thank you. Liz talks to him. They all talk to him. He's all around the guy that everybody comes to, and I love that in this story, they had him find love, which we just got to see that with him, which was a lot of fun.

Starting point is 00:05:53 And again, same thing, not a lot of words, mostly all without a lot of dialogue, which I think Gailmer de Toro is like great at showing that, which is also what he did a lot in the shape of water. A lot of that is like no words, it's all done with just like eye movements and touching of hands, just like he did when that's how him and the princess communicated, which I really like that that's a way that they shared communication, which made it really sad at the end that there was someone who finally communicated with Abe and understood him in a way that nobody else could. And that's what made it really kind of emotional. Like when she dies, I'm like, oh, I wanted that for Abe so much.

Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah. But also at the same time, I did, I do think that Liz getting pregnant is going to allow us to see another side of hellboy. that I think that's the only thing that maybe could keep him from becoming more and more narcissistic, from growing in the public's eye, from becoming this star, which you could tell that he really, really enjoyed watching himself. He's not listening to Liz. He's not listening to his boss. He's doing everything out in the open, except for maybe when he came down to him and the prince. And the prince said, you either have to command or you have to obey. And I was like, how is that going to come? into play with him specifically and it did I guess at the end right where it's like he he didn't have to kill the prince but he did have to like command his way in there if that makes sense because I was like how is this going to come into play because that was a very big lie to me and I was still trying to figure out exactly how the command versus obey came in there but obviously it came in at the end which I appreciate it and that was before I continue my point

Starting point is 00:07:43 If you are listening to us on Apple or Spotify, please drop a rating for us. We would appreciate it. That also showed emotional growth, in my opinion, on Hellboy. Like, he, what did Klaus say, your temper always gets the best of you? Yes. He easily could have killed the prince in that moment. He didn't. He chose not to, because I believe, too, like, not only, like, it was a growth moment for him,

Starting point is 00:08:02 but I think he understood, too, that it was affecting, like, he was looking out for Abe. He knew Abe was in love with this woman. They had their bro moment, their drunk moment. I love that scene. It was so damn funny. Yeah. And, you know what I mean, like looking up for his guy and also too, just controlling himself and being that hero as well. Like, like, I mean, this guy, like the prince tried killing him almost succeeded.

Starting point is 00:08:24 Like to hold off right there. I just, again, good character growth, good development for his character. I thought that was an awesome moment. Yeah. And then again, just that sadness. I also thought it added some interesting stakes to like, because usually when the hero fights the villain in a film, whether you agree or disagree with the character's motivation in terms of the villain, but you understand, it's like, okay, I get the motivation. Again, whether you agree or disagree, it's like, I want the hero to beat the villain,

Starting point is 00:08:52 you know, very black and white. But in this case, it's like, there's an interesting dichotomy. I don't want anything to happen to the sister. This is such interesting storytelling. That's why I loved it. Also, too, I thought there was a lot of good subversion of expectations. I'm talking about Klaus, for instance. I just thought, like, there's got to be something nefarious with this guy. Yeah, there was something and there wasn't. And there was nothing, which I'm glad. Again, I, one of my biggest pet peeves, I don't like things being too predictable. Right. And I get it. Writing is a very difficult thing. It's, you know, when you're writing on a page and then when you're trying to execute and then put it on the screen, it's easier said than done. Especially when we're here in a comfortable studio just watching and judging, it's a lot more easy than when you're actually, you know, trying to do it.

Starting point is 00:09:38 And I thought like Yerma Deltoro and I forgot the name of the other writer, Mike, whatever his name is. I believe. he created the comic. Anyways, point being is I like how they created that mystery with Klaus, like, thinking there's something nefarious and something not right with them. And we even kept saying, like, he's going to do something. He's going to do it. And then nothing came about it. And then he ended up helping them because

Starting point is 00:09:57 and then there was a lot, I guess he suffered a loss with his woman or girlfriend or wife or whatever he said. Yeah. And I just thought, okay, simple, easy. And again, subversion of expectations. I thought that was fine. I liked it. Yeah. I actually, too, like, just going a little more deeper with his character. I thought he

Starting point is 00:10:13 had a really cool power, I guess, with the smoke and he could control things. That was really cool. Yeah, he's a great person to add on to the team because at the end, we see like he also quit. So he's becoming a part of the Hellboy team, which I really appreciated. There's also something in this movie that they take more of more time, way more time, which I think the budget went up. And then also I think, well, we've earned it possibly with the first movie that we earned

Starting point is 00:10:37 that scene between Hellboy and Abe, where it's like they literally get to sing like half of an entire song together and get wasted, which normally in a film like this, they'd be like, we don't have time for that. Like, this should be an hour and 30 minutes. It's not. It's two hours. And it was still great. I'd like to see that scene.

Starting point is 00:10:55 I like to see them bonding to really show their friendship, which also adds to when Hellboy, obviously, he's like, I'm not going to kill him. I'm just going to kick his ass because he's like, I'm not going to kill my best buddy's girl, right? And then it ended up, which I really like that writing a lot. Because we always knew that she was like, she even told Abe, don't do it. She knew that Abe had that golden piece and she did not want him to do it, even if it meant her dying or getting hurt. So I really like that she was true to the end.

Starting point is 00:11:26 And then her killing herself is just very, it's very poetic because she do it. That would be the only way that she could end her brother, which was very sad by I appreciated it. Also, I think in taking their time in the shots, like there's a lot of grand. like reveals with the shots of like it looks like a dolly reveal or like a crane shot of a slow moving in there you're like whoa look at this entire world and we get to sit there for a second and look at it look at them walking into this environment and then we kind of get into the story so there's a lot of moments like that where we we got to spend just a little more time in the environment which i really appreciate it and the environment that i really didn't want to leave was the star wars environment in

Starting point is 00:12:07 the beginning with all the creatures yeah the troll world or whatever was called that was awesome It's fucking amazing, you guys. There was insane creatures in there that were on screen for like three seconds. And the amount of time it must have taken to put all those extras into makeup just to show us that for three seconds. It's like, I don't even want to know how long that took. I'm curious. I bet you they probably had to hire. I wonder like if they built some of those creatures maybe before, maybe some more animatronic.

Starting point is 00:12:37 They all looked very practical. Oh, yeah. And then if they had to have what, I don't know, 50s. makeup artist with their with assistant so it's a hundred on set to build up all of these people as well as costuming oh that's just it's wild i thought this film also did a really good job of showing the contrast between hellboy and the prince like they are similar but they're also different in terms of like you know we see the disdain that the prince has for the people and i mean they don't go too deep into his reasoning other than he just doesn't like them and then but we see it from

Starting point is 00:13:09 Hellboy's perspective, like we see what people do to him. So maybe there's a reason why the prince doesn't like him. It's for like that fact that people are judgmental and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. I don't need an actual reasoning other than what we see them doing to Hellboy. That's good enough for me. Right. But then seeing the, again, the contrast and what the differences on how they act towards

Starting point is 00:13:30 the situation. So like we see that the prince is like more than happy to use the Golden Army to destroy humanity whereas hellboy he's in a position where hey look he's got his woman they can live wherever whether there's humanity or not like she's you know she's got powers and all that so right she doesn't need humanity the point i'm making is he still made the the hero's decision on like hey i'm still going to be in a world that that judges me yeah i'm going to do the greater deed and be the hero and i'm going to fight this guy because it's the right thing to do right again that's good character development for me yeah i agree because it kind of come from

Starting point is 00:14:07 the same world, which is why at the end when the prince was dying, he's like, it's either the humans or it's us. So he's kind of including him in that world, which I, I enjoyed that at the end because it gives a hellboy a little more of a contradiction. Because I wonder, it also adds into more of us wondering what's going to happen when his child is born, which is like half human, half hellboy. Two children, right? Or two. Sorry, yeah, when his twins are born, which adds to exactly what the prince was saying human versus us and that's what his twins are going to be it's going to be well i mean they're all going to have two special powers like are they going to be able to like burn up stuff and also be able to do like i'm just so curious because i guess they're not actually

Starting point is 00:14:49 going to be full human because she is she's yeah okay i'm sorry to burst your bubble they never made a third one they didn't no oh yeah i'm sorry i hate to be the pair of bad news i know i hate to be that guy I'm sorry. I wanted to see the twins. Maybe one day they'll do it. Maybe one day. I guess maybe like the... They made a reboot after this movie, I believe.

Starting point is 00:15:15 We'll look it up just to verify, but they made a reboot after this one. But damn, I wish they would have continued this story. Like this was, see, I don't know why they didn't continue. Maybe we'll see on IMDB or maybe you guys, you guys are so smart. You can let us know in the comments why they didn't continue this because I think this story is so well. Yeah. The characters are fleshed out. The world building.

Starting point is 00:15:36 is great. Maybe it just costs too much money. Okay, well, Andrew looks up his trivia. I have my phone here. I'm going to look up the budget because I just, I want to know real quick, like how much hellboy to budget, just to see.

Starting point is 00:15:56 So $85 million and it only grossed. Oh, oh, no. Oh, great. How much did you go? It grossed 168 million. It should have made more than that. Worldwide. Well, that's good because they all.

Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah, but you got to think of marketing too. Almost doubled it, right? Yeah, it's got to make more than that. I guess that's probably why they had to reboot it. Yeah. And it was only in the United States, it only gross 34 million domestically. Let's look up. So if that has an 85 million budget, I'm just going to look up Hellboy 1 because I believe it was probably

Starting point is 00:16:33 doubled. Seth McFarlane, I believe was the voice of. of Johann Krauss. Oh, that's cool. Seth MacFarlane. Yeah, that's awesome. I was like, that voice sounds so damn familiar. Who is that?

Starting point is 00:16:44 That's cool. So Hellboy 1 was only 60 to 66 million. So they got like 20 million more dollars to make this one. They made a count, right? And they needed it for all of those creatures, which were amazing. Citizens of the Reject Nation, or should I say, royal rejects, because that is who we call those who check out our RR Apparel at Reject Nation Shop.com. We come out with new designs every month or every two months. It is personally my favorite way you can support the channel. Reason being is because we are involved with every one of the exclusive RR designs that are up at the shop. Every month it's been growing every month. We are getting more and more royal rejects. And I really love to hear how people are finding the shirts to not just be cool looking, but also fit nicely and feel comfortable. I cared about that more than anything else. I'm a hairy guy, so I'm really in like sensitive of the fabric. We got a bunch of designs already.

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Starting point is 00:18:46 Yeah. Okay. As the Angel of Death. Hey, that's what I called it. I know. That's pretty much what it was. It was kind of obvious. I'm not taking credit on that one.

Starting point is 00:18:54 As the Angel of Death, Doug Jones. Oh, Doug Jones also played the Angel of Death. He's Abe Seabium. Sapien, as the angel of death, Doug Jones could only see out of the crack across the mask he wore. Also, the mechanical wings he was wearing weighed about 40 pounds. Doug was originally supposed to walk around the set, but when it was discovered that he could barely stand, they insisted, they instead, rather, hung him from a wire. This is why the angel of death floats. Amazing.

Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah, that makes sense. I was actually thinking when we were watching that scene, whoever's in this, how can they see the thing? I'd be like, bro, you're going to put on anything. 80 pounds of wings except me to just like move around and do an entire scene multiple times? No.

Starting point is 00:19:35 Oh. Here's another Angel of Death fun fact. The Angel of Death's voice is also done by Doug Jones doing each line twice once in a higher pitch toned voice. Once in a lower. And then in a lower pitch

Starting point is 00:19:47 and then the two takes were blended together. Oh, interesting. I was like something's, what's cool? Wow. This is different. That's cool.

Starting point is 00:19:55 All right. You called this one early on. David Hyde Pierce did the voice of Abe's. Sapien and Hellboy won. While Doug Jones played the physical part for this film, Jones also does the voice. So you were onto that early. I did miss Park.

Starting point is 00:20:08 I agreed with that. With David Hyde Pierce. Yes. Pierce. I thought it was David Hyde Park. David Hyde Pierce. The reason is because the producers hoped that Pierce's name would make the first movie a box office smash, but he refused to be credited because he felt that Abe Sapien was Jones's work. And as such, did no promotions, nor interviews, nor even intended the premier.

Starting point is 00:20:29 Oh, that's okay, guys, hold on, that's some hot gossip. Number one, I do find that a little weird. So when I first heard that, because he read that trivia in the first one saying, and I was like, oh, that's so nice of David to be like, Jones, it's all of your work. You put in all this time and effort into it. I don't need to take any credit, which I was like, I respect that. Yeah. But at the same time where I'm like, but you didn't even show up to watch the movie.

Starting point is 00:20:53 And also, if they were like, help us promote, because that's what movies do. They want to put a name in there to help you promote. promote the thing. Like David Hyde Pierce is very popular from Frazier and a bunch, obviously, a bunch of other things that I'm like, oh, that's a little rude. I'm a little, I have mixed feelings about it because I understand what he was doing and I think it was a very nice thing. But I also think you could have showed up and still been like, yes, I was this voice, help promote it and at least go see your work in it. And then be like, it's all just by the way, every interview you do, be like, Listen, I don't need to talk about me. Yes, I played the voice, but it was Doug Jones the whole time. He did all of the work. The credit goes to him. Yeah, I mean, you still got paid for the job.

Starting point is 00:21:39 So you can still promote it while still giving Doug Jones all the credit that you think he deserves. That's fair too. I get your point there. But yeah, I agree. Also adding in his name with Doug Jones is going to help Doug Jones. Yeah, I agree. That's a little weird. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:54 Okay, we'll do like three more for you guys. So Peter Jackson approached writer and director Guillermo del Toro to direct Halo. And even though Del Toro considered it, he turned down, he turned the offer down so he could direct this sequel. Good choice. Also, Del Toro turned down, I am legend, one missed call, and Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince for the same reason. Again, I love this movie. Damn, that would have been interesting to see him do Half Blood Prince. And Harry Potter, wow.

Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. but um okay um okay interesting but again i'm glad he ended up doing this i just wish this movie would have made more money yeah i agree curious why it didn't maybe it's marketing out who knows uh when in costume as either abe sapien the chamberlain or the angel is the chamberlain is that the the henchman with the i don't know uh or the angel of death jug jones was rendered almost completely blind and deaf from the prosthetic pieces on his head Yeah, dude, he's a trooper.

Starting point is 00:22:56 Seriously, he gets so much credit. I mean, give him all the credit. Wow, I didn't even know he played all those things. Yeah, and also, too, I really felt such a, I thought there was so much more emotional. Again, I loved him so much in the first film. I thought his powers were cool and just getting to know him and all that. But again, with his relationship with the princess and everyone would be, again, using

Starting point is 00:23:17 as a therapist. I thought there was a lot of emotional depth with his character in this film personally. I would have, I'm, And I would have, I would not, I can't do that. Okay, I'm glad I didn't say anything here because I was about to praise a young child here. What is it? The young hellboy. Yes.

Starting point is 00:23:35 Was played by an adult, a 36 year old in 2008, woman Moncey Rive. There were so many times where I was about to say, praise to this little child right now for all the prosthetic makeup they had to go through. Right. They were like, we can't put a kid through that because a kid, by the time you're done with the makeup, they would be like, Like, you have to go be homes. You have to be homeschooled on set now. They would waste so much money. Okay.

Starting point is 00:23:59 That makes sense. I was thinking that, but I was going to praise it like three or four times. That makes a lot of sense. Oh, my God. I'm so. That's great. I'm laughing. I didn't say anything in that moment.

Starting point is 00:24:11 Two more. Blake Perlman, the female reporter seen interviewing Hellboy outside of the auction house is Ron Perlman's daughter. Oh. Nepotism does not exist in Hollywood. I'll, and I'm just, it's an interview, it's nothing. Oh, man. But still, that was cool for him to get it. Okay, I'll do one more.

Starting point is 00:24:32 Johann Krauss played, or voiced rather, by Seth MacFarlane. Use the word, I'm probably going to mispronounce it. Schwatzstucker. This is a pseudo-German euphemism for a part of the male anatomy. Oh, I think that's what he called Jeffrey Tambour at the end. Yeah. Schwarzson Stucker or something like that. The term was also,

Starting point is 00:24:54 used in the Mel Brooks film Young Frankenstein back in 1974 and we saw a bunch of Frankenstein so much in there yeah okay that's cool so he did he was pulling like some Frankenstein stuff I also think that was a cool shot like it's sort of a metaphor with placing I have to say one more after you're done okay I also thought it was a metaphor placing hellboy next to that Frankenstein shot that it was so clearly there of saying we we I mean they share a lot in common, right? Frankenstein wasn't bad, but he looked like how he looked and Hellboy is like the same thing. He has

Starting point is 00:25:28 a heart, but he has to sort of hide who he actually is going to be in the future, and he's really trying to fight against that. For sure. Last one, Seth MacFarlane based the voice of Johann Krauss on Jeremy Iron's character, Simon Simon Gruber

Starting point is 00:25:44 from Die Hard with a Vengeance. Oh, that's an interesting fact. Did you ever see that film or now? I did. Okay. Yeah, he's the main bad. Wait, is that The third one. The first one is Alan Rickman. Oh, no. That's the third one. Wait, I don't think I've seen it. Yeah. Dang, guys, I need to watch that. Yeah, that's the third one. So that's an interesting fact. I'm going to have to watch these films back to back. I mean, I can hear Jeremy Iron's voice in there. To see where he pulls that from. I can kind of see that, but interesting. But again, I really

Starting point is 00:26:13 enjoyed this film. I, again, I love the first one, but I think this one out did it in every step of the way. I wish this one made more money so they could have continued doing more. I highly doubt we're going to do the reboot, unless you guys convince Greg and John that you want us to. So let them know in the comments. But also, too, one other thing I did not mention in our review here, I really thought this film, there were so many different tones going on. But I thought Guillermo del Toro did a great job of balancing all those tones because when it was like, when he was setting the tone for horror, I mean, with the tooth fairies and all that, like, it was scary as hell. And then when he wanted it to be schlocky and zany and fun, like it was fun. like in the bro and the moment like that with him and drinking like he was really able to blend it together and balance it's all about balance to me like because sometimes you know not to get into a hellboy identity crisis here a lot of times films just don't know how to balance it it's again it's a very tricky thing when you're writing these things out um but again i thought giermo dutura and again the other writer they really nailed that balancing act for me yeah and i agree like even when i said oh that's an interesting transition it was very comic booky which especially when

Starting point is 00:27:21 with the black lines when it goes like curved and then I was like oh that's why once I saw the curved one I was like oh this is but we're modeling it after our comic book which I like because we didn't get those transitions in the first one which gives us a little more juice on the comic book realm of it to like call back to that which is so it's such a simple call out to just be like we're just going to transition it this way especially using a split screen which is very comic bookie I really I really enjoyed that because we didn't get that in the first one and that's a really nice way to just be like this is also a comic yeah right no for sure which is awesome I loved it um I don't know if I have anything else to say except that the creatures were just they

Starting point is 00:28:04 were my absolute favorite yeah and again those master shots of like when we could pull out and see the entire environment yeah wow and the fight choreography in this yes stunts were amazing masterful and Luke goss I want to give him his praise as the prince he did an awesome job I always felt threatened. Like I always felt like Hellboy, even though you know he's going to survive in the end. Like in the moments, you always feel threatened and scared for him. And that's what I think is the you know, that's the proposition

Starting point is 00:28:31 of a good villain. You want your, your heroes and the characters that you're invested to feel threatened in the moment, even if you know at the end, they're probably going to survive. Yeah. And in the moment, you're not thinking about that. So I thought he was really again, liking Blade 2, which I won't spoil for you. I thought he was very well

Starting point is 00:28:47 casting. I like that Guillermo D'Otero went back to him. He did a great job. And I like that relationship between him and his sister. I thought that was interesting. Again, the contrast between how they have a different ideology, you know, in terms of she's like, no, I don't want, I want peace and he wants violence towards humanity and all that. So interesting, again, it's good dramatic storytelling and also the fun supernatural stuff and

Starting point is 00:29:08 the horror elements and the comedic bands. There's just so much in this film. I really appreciated. I hopefully one day they do a third one. I don't know. Who knows? Yeah, let us know in the comments. I also feel yeah let us know the comments about I mean about the reboot but like I also feel like at the end of this I was just thinking like this is the women were really running these decisions because it was it took the sister to kill herself and then it took Liz destroying the actual crown that I'm like oh the women won this like the guys were there to fight but at the end of the day if it wasn't for the sister and it wasn't for Liz like the golden army would maybe still be standing I mean they could have maybe destroyed the crown in a different way but all the

Starting point is 00:29:49 Also, maybe not. And also, he would still be living if the sister hadn't been very poetic and killed herself. And to add to your incredible point, Liz also saved Hellboy. She with the angel of death. She let him live. And I like that she said, I'm going to save him. And I think a lot of that is like, I'm going to save him because I'm having twins. And I'm like, maybe she could.

Starting point is 00:30:12 You're absolutely right. And last thing, I promise. My interpretation of that was to, like, the angel of death was saying he's going to bring about the destruction of the world. I feel like with our twins or our babies being born and with me, I can steer him towards the right path. Right. Exactly. That was my interpretation. That's, of course. Like, same thing. Like,

Starting point is 00:30:29 I'm going to save him by having these babies. We're going to lead him towards a different path. Which I believe would probably only work for so long, which is why I was very intrigued to see, wow, where would that reboot go once he has children? And then

Starting point is 00:30:45 maybe because it's sort of written in stone, written in the stars of like, eventually he's going to turn bad, which I wouldn't really want to see it. Of course not. I wouldn't want to see it. But at the same time, it's like, ah, I wonder. Right? Again, not knowing the comics, my only guess, the only thing that could really turn in bad

Starting point is 00:31:03 is if something really bad happened to Liz and now it's like. And then he, yeah. Vanjum humanity or something. That's right. It would have to be a Disney thing where it's like Liz and both the kids die. And it's a John Wick thing where he's like, I'm going to kill you all. And then no one stands a chance against Hellboy. At that point, that's a knife right through the heart.

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