The Reel Rejects - Hollywood Pitfalls & Comebacks: Spider-Man 4, K-Pop, Horror, Gaming

Episode Date: August 28, 2025

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Thank you. So, so. then on someone on Instagram said that's what we're going to start with before we go into fitness someone was like going off on me of like wow Greg looks so unhealthy now and he used to have muscles I think unhealthy is a moving line because of how much we moved the line towards unhealthy the other way like I think the amount of billboards we had showing people it's okay to get diabetes is is a problem yeah but I'm a monster and I like people and I like people to live to 100 and be fit.

Yeah. So, like, I don't know if I'm the right person, but I think body dysmorphia goes both directions, and I think it's much more comfortable societally to think that being large is healthier than skinny. Let the record show I got a sentence and a half in an elect decoy monologing. Sorry, I get angry at this exact subject. Did it even finish my thought?

I apologize. I'm removing the mic from my face. Please continue. I actually lost my train of thought. What did I start off with saying? Instagram, someone saying. Yes, oh, yeah, this guy. Yes, this guy.

This dude. Oh, you're saying this. And I went to his profiles. I'm like, I bet this guy is not fit and healthy. And I looked at him for like a couple pictures. I was like, dude is super in health. That was the first thing I said to him. Like, I look healthier than you.

And I was thinking about it. And I was like, I'm definitely stronger than I was before. Like, does this look weak? Like there's no muscles to you? Distrayations. You dumb son of a bitch. I like this opening of this podcast. Anyway, I'm doing my photo shoot tomorrow.

So I'm so excited for you, man. I, like, genuinely have been so stoked for you to get the moment you've been fighting for. Because I know how hard it is. And I know that nothing ever feels like you're done. Like, there is no complete when it comes to fitness. But there is something about having a goal. And when that goal happens, it doesn't mean the thing's complete. But you're about to, like, achieve a benchmark.

And I did a photo shoot, like a fitness shoot once. And I still look back at those pictures. and they inspire me on my next plateau. So I'm like so stoked female. I know the level of possibilities. Yeah. On this very podcast, we were like, I said, I remember being on this podcast saying, I believe this time I'll do it.

And I was trying to like do that thing where when you know you will achieve something and you can predeterminate it in advance and prove that you can do it as opposed to just saying it. And so I feel like I finally have done it. It's been exactly eight months as of tomorrow when I took my first photo. And that's when you're doing the shoot, right? And then I do my shoot tomorrow. Yeah. I also want to say, I think it's dangerous on the internet.

Like, fitness is one of those things that is so much negativity tied to it. And there is so much America problem. But that's the one thing I've never wanted to do content about because of, like, there's no winning. Like, people like on Instagram are going to be the target audience. You're either going to have people that are, like, not taking care of themselves, claiming that you're unhealthy. Or you're going to have very, very, like, it's my life. people giving you notes. And so it's not a thing I'd ever want to dabble in. I remember we went to Hurricane Harbor and they were a bunch of fitness influencers. I was like, I've never felt worse

about myself. And I'd never want anyone else to feel like that. But I also think it's like no one's business to tell you how you look if you're proud. Like that's insane to me. Like the goal. You know, I'm not going to lie. The people I find the most interesting and aspirational to be internally are those who are like definitely like really overweight but carry themselves with the utmost confidence and still, like, attract all kinds of human beings that are away. I'm like, man, I, I struggle so much in my own body, my entire life. I'd rather live longer. I mean, that's fair. True. But there's something to the mental and emotionality that there are some people who are very overweight, who are physically unhealthy, and they still match live a long time,

just because they feel good about themselves and what that does for your heart and your cortisol levels. Like, there's other, like, emotional benefits. And then some people who get obsessed with their health, who take all the nutrition and my fitness, pal, everything, and go to the gym, but they stress themselves out over so much of it that it actually can affect their heart. Yeah, I mean, that's me. Like, I'm going to die younger than I look because I stress all the time. Like, I'm not saying I'm the pinnacle. I'm certainly not. But I do think it's a very polarizing subject.

I don't know balance. Just like I don't know how to balance an intro here. John, thanks for setting all this up. I know I've been in Moody past 24 hours. Apologies. We have John set everything up here And we're going to be doing this podcast We wanted to do it live moving forward

We just kind of prefer it in a lot of ways And we're not going to be doing on Thursdays They figured like we usually shoot Thursdays But moving forward We're going to be doing them on Fridays We're still figuring out It's going to be 12 p.m. or 12.30 p.m. We're aiming for 12.

So that's that. Last time we were live, we got a bunch of super chats and stream labs. Thank you. We don't end a stream without going through every single one of them and it's a fantastic way to offset whatever hiccups happen during this time of doing youtube lastly we're going to do a different topic today let's finally fucking talk about it is we wanted to discuss how we really think where the direction is kind of going with how we can have theaters bounce back

how we can have cinema sort of bounce back and additionally some of the pros and cons of course that have come in this age of modern cinema with television and movies I think there's a lot to kind of dissect over the next 45 minutes. And, of course, we'll open up to the Q&A. If there is super chats that do come in or stream lots like to do come in. Thank you. We'll dissect that. Right now, there's a live chat going.

So we'll be popping in every once in a while to ask John for some feedback on how the live chat's doing. But while you're here, please leave a like on this video. Let's kick this off, Koi. So there's a bunch of different directions we can go. We will talk about like the Spider-Man and Avengers Doomsday stuff. We just got to find the right. Where would you like to start with this?

I have some directions of where I want to go, like with gaming, re-releases, something like K-pop Demon Hunters being released from a streaming and being a hit, you know, how to build BTS hype. Where would you like to start? All of that is, I think this is a mini-tiered cake we're going on this adventure of. Definitely. I think zooming out as big as possible than going narrow. So I think on the macro, on the biggest possible conversation, I think we need to look at how we

consume media in general. So if I zoomed out as big as I could, I would say our problem society right now is what's affecting us geopolitically, politically, social media. Every tier of modern life, I think is a communication breakdown. And I think the way we're being fed media is driven by profit. And I think that's the way it's always been. But I think there is an acceleration since social media, and that's going to accelerate even more with AI, that's the

beginning of the end of media. So media now is about retention and addiction, and that is so you can get more ads in front of eyeballs. And we're starting to see that affect theaters by having so many ads and then trailers and then the movie, and that's a conversation we'll talk out in a little bit.

But on social media, the entire point of social media is to keep you on it as long as possible. It is an algorithm that is trained to know you as best as it can in order to get you to not swipe away. I think the concern becomes if that addiction is as strong as it is now and as strong as it's going to grow like chat gbt is working on a social media platform and that's going to remove even the

human element of us making content for people and it's literally going to be a thing that is like her or like uh someone you think you're dating or someone you think of your best friend someone you ask advice and it's going to be a thing where you've replaced all humanity with this thing when that happens, there is no chance of someone leaving their house and going to the movies. I think that's about five to six years away. I think we have about one to two years to get people back in the theater, back to concerts, back to going to events on a more regular scale. And the solutions are the things we're about to talk about. But I think the problem hasn't been addressed of the addiction of this form of media meets cost of not that form of media.

The thing that's free is free because it's buying you. The thing that costs money is because it's not buying you. So if theaters are going to have commercials and ads, they need to drop prices. And if they're not, they need to figure out a way to make it an event because this is only free because what it's selling is pieces of your identity. And so that's the thing that's going to ruin not just movies, but our lives. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the common thing that we hear with why people aren't going is because of the cost of how much it is.

And I think what a lot of people forget when they say that, because they're not wrong. Like, it is more expensive. people still spend money even those who are making those complaints on whatever they think is things they don't need to buy they will spend the money if they find there's a rarity if there's value to it people will spend more I know people with equinox memberships who are saying they're always broke but they have an equinox those are like $300 a month but they find value in it and they're constantly complaining about how they don't have money yeah and my point with that is that's the way all of us operate if you look at concerts

At concerts out here with musicians are still huge. People will throw down like $200 for a shitty seat at Taylor Swift concert or whatever artists, you know. And how do we do that with movie theaters, I think, has kind of been the big thing because you're right on the macro level of the problems that it's presenting. And I've been paying attention to what has actually been working. The thing that I've been most drawn to as a singular viewer is movie. theater re-releases. I'm not talking about what happened with K-pop demon hunters, which I would love to go into. It's like going to Ninja Turtles, going to Black Swan. Something I've noticed at those, every time I've gone to any re-release, A, it is packed, packed to the brim. Secondly, people are

actually not on their phones. Yeah. Every new release I go to, weapons included, which is a big hit, people on their phones. For some reason, at a at a at a re-release, people are more giving to the film and want to give in to the experience because it's people it's twofold I've noticed. It's people they're either introducing someone to those threefold more. They're introducing someone who hasn't seen it so they want them to be in it because you want that experience like when you show your fiancee a movie and you're like I want you to be really in this because this movie means a lot to me. So that's that like when it just turtles. There's a lot of people who brought their kids and it was probably their kids first

time seeing it. So they wanted them to be like pulled into this. Secondly, it's also the individual viewer who wants to recapture that feeling, that nostalgic feeling of being in the theaters and watching this. And third, it's people who didn't catch it in the theaters like myself most of the time. And I want to really experience it. This is like because a re-release is also a shorter window, it becomes more special. And every time I go, packed. I didn't expect Black Swan to be packed. It was like, fucking Black Swan. And they went there and it was jam packed. And I was in the very back row. I didn't see one person on their phone the entire time. And it was kind of miraculous for a movie theater re-release on Black Swan

on IMAX. And so that's that I'm kind of thinking of, I'm seeing solutions. And there's a lot of like, we got to go back to the old ways. We got to go back to the old ways. And I'm finding re-releases to be some type of weird mixture. I didn't end up going to the Cosm event, Coy, sorry. So there was a cause, it was pretty cool. Yeah, I've recommended it to be. And also, I don't really get much alone time with Olivia. And I should have just been upfront about that.

Like, I don't really get alone. When you didn't tell me in time past, I was like, they should have that. That's what I inferred happened. Yeah, and I should have been upfront about that. I was like, people pleasing mode. I didn't want to say something. But I'm so glad you enjoyed it. Like, it's a special way to watch a movie I've seen 100 times.

It's so cool. So now that's like, okay, and then how do we make movie theaters feel special again. You and I have seen the mate like outside of Terminator 2 there's no movie I've been okay outside Terminator 2 and Anchorman there's no movie I've seen more than The Matrix. Yeah. So I've seen The Matrix

countless times. It's one of those movies where I hear the lines before they come. I can feel the lines before they come and with this event there's this theater out here called the Cosm Theater and how would you explain it? It's a sphere that is projecting the movie in the right ratio, but slightly elongated. And then they build new art around the movie that

interacts in real time with the film itself. So it's like when you watch a movie at home and you have got those LEDs behind your TV. But instead of that, it is they built an artifice of a scene and it changes by scene. And it immerses more of your senses into the film. So it's like watching it a new. Like for me, it was the most, the most different of an experience I've ever had on a rewatch. ever. Unlike 40x, which I find to be a very distracting, very distracting experience. I think 40x rare, I'm trying to think if there was ever a time where I was actually immersed and not just like looking at the technicalities. Because this had the twofold experience where I'd be an admiration of what they did. It's so hard to explain a visual of what this is like. It's like

going to the Grand Canyon. Your brain can't take it all in. There's so much. There's a center image and then there's a sphere that's massive like the second you walk in you're like holy shit this is huge is this going to be distracting and awkward and i brought up how we've seen it so many times for a reason because this felt fresh i could not believe how much i was going like god feel like i'm in the matrix yeah i felt like 1999 yes so like okay let's use the famous scene when he's like dodging the bullets they build like this whole thing where you're like in the city There's like buildings to your left, right, up, down. Yeah.

This whole thing. Or when Trinity is up, doing that famous move, the background follows with her. It's trippy. When they're in the program sequence, it goes all stark white, but the sound design makes you feel like you're in the program too.

That was so cool. That was so simple, but I was like, this is incredible. We need guns, lots of guns. It's like on your left and right, just shit.

It's what screen X I think fails to do. It's what 40X, I think, fails to do. It's what 3D, I think, it was failing to do. And somehow this Cosm event pulled, I think this was like, this must be their guinea pig for a movie. It's the first, I think. And I went to one that was even more immersive because I eat meat and they feed you when the scenes are happening in the film. So when Seifer gets a steak, someone comes over and gives you a steak and you eat while they're eating. And then

the cookie scene with her going like, take a cookie, you'll feel better by the time you finish it. I got a cook. Like all of that is insane. It's forking film, right? Yeah. It's so special. And it feels like an event when you're there. And it was strange because I love this movie. I want to always capture on a pure experience. I've seen the re-release. And every time I see it re-release, it's like, it's always cool to see it in the big stream.

But like, yeah, I've seen this movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This was the first time. This feels like a different thing. And it felt like a concert. Like there was something so presentational about it. It was so like immersive but new. That's where I'm going with this is because people were kind of talking throughout the whole thing,

but it didn't bother me. because it felt like you're kind of in the park. Yeah, I go to Senespea every year. I love the Hollywood Forever Cemetery. That's something where people talk, and it's a social event. Yes. But you don't see a movie for the first time there. I would not see The Matrix for the first time at Cosm.

I think that's a way to do a second run on a film. Cosm is one of the, I know it's such a weird thing because we're talking about the most L.A. type of movie theater experience. But I think it's the beginning. It is the beginning of something special that I really think more theaters have to apply how to do this thing. Cosm, please sponsor, invite us to something. Like, I want to go get. Like, I just like, whatever.

If you see this, Cosm, I want more like this. I want to see so many movies like this. Imagine T2 in that? That's the first movie I said. Building out. The first thing I said when I was like, because we were living at Riffing, like, Oh, Dune, Dark Night, T2,

all the big movies, you know? It's the one time, all these stupid Wizard of Oz things that are not even doing a show. It's the only time I'm like, you know what? I might be down for a bit of a Wizard of Oz. Treatment on Cosum Experience, actually. There's something to it. And so, yeah, that's another event where they're doing it.

And it was packed to the brim. And they also have, like, in the lobby, it's all matrixed out. They're playing the club music, the Rob Dugan songs and everything. They got the phone booths there. It's a way to really make it feel special. Did you go to the bar upstairs by chance? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the bar also was playing the soundtrack, and the drinks all felt like the movie.

So even when you left the screen, the place felt themed. And this is where I think movie theaters need to apply. This is what I think they're getting wrong with their popcorn buckets. You know, like popcorn buckets are really cool. I like, I love the popcorn buckets. I love the drinks. If I really love a movie, I'm going to try to get one. I got two cups from the Fantastic Four.

I got the thing and an invisible woman. But it just feels like a merchandise you're buying. It doesn't feel like an event when you're there still. And I, and there's something there where I think theaters have to find a way to make it special again. Whatever the opening weekend's going to be, like, build it up to be an event, you know? You went to Arclight when it was open, right? Actually, my last screening before the pandemic was at Arclight. I saw Birds of Prey there a week before the world stopped.

I was one of the last people in that building. And, like, it never failed to be special. Like the presentation, the people you're in the lobby, the big clock, the bar, all of that was like, you were at Arclight. You weren't just had a movie theater. I think the first time I went to Arclight was with John's family. Oh, that's cool. I think we went to Sea Biscuit. That sounds like.

the exact experience my family they're a horse family going down those stairs and running into people and like it was like a networking place where you could like run into like you know other actors in the case of when I was an actor like it was an event but I think we could take piece of that

and apply it to like AMC so my big macro out is our attention span my second wave in would be money my third wave in would be actually how theaters are run and then my fourth wave in would be events so I think it's like a mini layered thing but my second thing would be I think we need to at how much movies cost, and I think I go to so many because of AMCA A list. I don't know how

many people are on a list as compared to go to one movie. It's the price of about a movie and a third, and even if you're in somewhere where movie tickets are cheaper, I think it's $20 for you guys, $27 for us, which is fairly negligible if you even see two movies a month. So I think subscription-based models make a lot of sense, but I would also say, in addition to just like discount Tuesdays and those things. I think they need to do more like screenings for like mothers on Saturdays. You can bring your baby and no one's

complaining about your child. Oh, that'd be cool. Make things where it's like you take care of certain demographics. Yeah. I think there should be screenings that are if you've got a I would hate to be in that theater. I wouldn't want to go, but that's not for me. Would the mothers even like that coin? Just a bunch of screaming babies. I've hosted mom screenings before we used to have my movie theater.

Really? Yeah. I worked. I worked to the theater from 14 to 20 the week after my 14th birthday. Damn. That's Crazy. And I worked there from the two towers on for six years. Okay. And it was literally I was 14 years old. The day I could get a job I applied, got it a week later. I was there. And one of my favorite things was we used to have specialty screenings like the mother screenings. And it was $5. You bring your kids. And we have like diaper changing stations. We've got like things to appease the kids. But the moms get a second to be young moms. And it's such a beautiful. Obviously dads could come to. But we geared it towards young moms bringing their kids. And it was always something where it was a pain to clean. It smells. awful and it was really rough, but I got to see the happiest people because they were so relieved to do something new with their baby. And no one complained about crying. It was special. So I think finding ways to do that type of screening for different demographics, I think that's something where like, don't just change the price, make it an experience that's different. So I think movie ticket prices could also go down week two, week three, week four. A movie comes out week one,

that's your $13, $14. Week two, you want that to hold a frame a number of tickets sold. Drop it two bucks drop it a little bit more every single week make it like concert seats instead of going out make your time the the the seat quality uh i think there's also something to be said about different tiers throughout the day like not just matinee but like prime time i drop tickets again at night late at night like 10 o'clock at night make that a little cheaper like there are things to bring people and entice them to spread out the movie time so when it sells out you've got options i would also genuinely have some of the money that is going to the actual theater maintenance go to ushers going into the theater

and staying in there for about half an hour, leaving half an hour, going to the next theater over, coming back half an hour, and being very visible to the audience. There's less phones. There's sharper conditions of like strikes policy. I would keep track of the people we've kicked out and I would like ban them.

I would like get rid of problem people. And if you want to have like a mother screening with newborn kids, maybe have like a dumbass influencer screening and let the cunts be on their phones. Like let there be a room where it's idiots like doing their thing that they think that experience is. but have that marked for the audience.

Just like they have closed captioned on some screens, have an idiot screening. And that way there's quiet for real fans. Like, there are ways to scale this. Did you mark the C word time? Yes. All right. Thanks, John.

In fact, I did. Just caught me at the notepad in fact. I hate them so much. I thank you. I'm sorry. Immediate, immediate de monetization. Thank you for clocking it, John. Thank you for babysitting me

while I talk about babysitting children. Any old time, Koi. Yeah. I've got ideas. I never considered the change in price. That is true, the value of time of, like, getting in there on the opening and makes the demand for opening weekend more valuable and also the time of day. That's actually a really cool metric.

Thought a lot about this. Yeah. There are, I think there are solutions. Right now, like, it's something like AMC is the most popular theater chain. They just keep raising their prices. And adding commercials. They're finally lowering the commercial runtime. They had to make a public statement because it got up to 35 minutes.

Isn't the commercial, one of the commercials that are lowering, though? that not to I think one of the things they've removed is the whole thing about not being on your phone yeah that that needs to come back well I don't think those are effective they're not they're not

but they need a human being I think they're too flashy yeah I think being like you know little hype about the movie but they'd also tell people please don't be on your phone and they really like drill it home that way also encourages people

to tell people who are on their phone to not be on their phone you know it's so subtle some people take it for granted especially kids who grow up a world where they're watching the, like, I have the problem, too, when I'm watching shit at home. I'll look at my phone, too.

And so there's a lot of kids who grew up in this world where they normalize it and they don't see what the big deal is. Like, there's so many times, not me, but Olivia, who I send on the message to tell people to turn off their phone. But when we tell them to turn off their phone or she does, they're not like, oh, sorry. A lot of times are like, what's their problem? That's usually the response now. It's crazy to me.

And the whole point is to distinguish the difference between being. being at home and being there and to allow the immersion experience. And so I think it's something weird, something cheaper. Like if you, I think if you took that little bit of money that you were spending on ads for the no, like, Arklight didn't need that fucking commercial. If you took that little bit of money, you gave it like a dollar more or $2 more to like per hour to the to people who work at AMC to just deliver that message, it would be way stronger than any. flashy commercial where someone's like throwing their popcorn and soda in the area. That was one of my jobs. Like I used to do like the charity drives where we'd sell these little hearts for different like charities. And I would add to that message like also no talking during the movie. And then I set that precedent. So I would be the one to come back and be like, hey, I asked you nicely. And that'd be a warning, but you'd already have a face attached to it. And like Ryan Johnson, the director would be one of the arclight people like as a joke for his movies. He'd come out in the arclet uniform and he'd say like no talking. A lot of people wouldn't even recognize that it was Ryan. So like it's a fun way to also. immerse people into the experience like if you're in LA like a fun thing we're a director like it needs to be personable and I also think there's an element of I don't want the movie theater to

become the theater yeah I think it needs to be the people's media like it needs to not be expensive it can't be affordable like the average person shouldn't spend $50 leaving their house and I feel like everything in the world costs the second you open your door the world's like $50 and I think that needs to be tempered like we need to get back to things being approachable where you drop your kids off when they're 15 at the theater and they spend five hours there and it doesn't cost them a PlayStation yeah like that needs to go back to normal fully agree so money i think is tier two uh i think eventing is is tier four well while you were speaking on the money side of it you know it got me to go to the thought of how people will say uh well i could

just wait for this on streaming and it's cheaper and that's true that is true but there's one genre that tends to do really well in the theaters right now horror horror here's why i think horror does well. I think out of any genre that people want to be immersed in the field of fear, you need to be in the dark. You need to be in the immersion experience. People are less likely to be on their phone during a horror and it's more fucking annoying when they're in the movie. Because the movies are usually dark. Or even if it's something like weapons, which takes place a lot during the day, you want to be in the darkness vibe of it. And so I think horror naturally gravitates people to want to be in a dark, immersive experience. And

at home it's just not most of the time unless you're by yourself it's not going to be as scary most of the time when you're by yourself or i mean most of the time when you're at home you got the lights on and shit this allows for that for the genre true genre experience you know and i think that's a great way for where studios really ought to learn beyond that though that i think is the next wave of big movies if we're going to like transition a little bit more in a genre stuff uh because i do want to talk about streaming and i want to talk about some genres that i think are going to take off so with genres horror really is a category that is, I think, going to excel.

I think Marvel and DC, like what DC is doing, as I came out of my mouth, I just heard it, DC show up, but DC's doing in the future, what DC is doing with Clayface, genius, smart ass move to put the Mike Flanagan name behind it so you get the horror diehards who, like, maybe the average person doesn't know the Mike Flanagan name, but the horror diehard, that's all you really got to tend to. You could do it at a mid-budget price. it could literally influence the entire genre. It would be amazing if they're able to pull. If it's a good movie, because horror, even, I was looking it up today,

even a movie like Together, which was not really a box office juggernaut or hit, but it profited. Right. Off of making like $25 million or something like that because the movie was done for cheap because it's multiple faceted with horror. there was a time where being in a horror movie as an actor was lackluster it had to be some prestigious as shit like exorcist or shining and you needed something like a tour director behind it to attract now you get shit like i don't know when it started but like i think ari aster and tony collect and the whole cast there for for hereditary where arreaster was an unknown director but he managed to get like to the first time director that's what i mean first time director that's what i'm talking to about actors who are known because we don't really thrive on celebrity name anymore and we got to acknowledge that like just get that shit out of the way. I think people are drawn more to a

collaboration between actor and director that they're more familiar with than they are just an actor's name alone. Which is so interesting because it definitely removes me from the conversation. I struggle because I will see everything an actor does. Of course. But we're in a very specific bubble. And it's so hard for me not to think that way. Like when I look at what's playing, I don't look at what the log line is. I don't look at the director. I look at who's in the movie that week and I go see that person.

But I think that's why sinners I feel like that's... I mean, Michael Jordan and Ryan Coopjeure. I think that's an overlooked contribution of why sinners did well. You know, like it's not a big thing. It's not the biggest thing. I don't think it's the number one thing

of why it did well of like knowing these two are collaborating, but that certainly peaks in interest. And there are directors that are like the movie stars of today. Like Nolan movie is, you see it because it's Nolan. I mean, just today, Emma Stone's new movie

I haven't seen any of those movies I haven't seen any of them but they keep working together she keeps getting Oscars and I think the hype just keeps building around it you know you start something much more lower budget now they're just getting crazier and crazier and they can be more experimental I think it's really cool

what they're doing in that direction yeah yeah or like even with F1 the idea of getting a top gun maverick guy with Brad Pitt not just Brad Pitt alone and not just the top gun maverick guy but the idea of like getting these two together I think that's the director at actor combination, I feel like, has a little bit more appeal than people kind of give credit for. No, that's a really good point. The collaborative nature of those things is the headline now. That's

really good point. Yeah. And I think horror, though, is weapons is a completely original movie. Yeah. Second time director. Second time director in the genre. Zach Craigor did Barbarian and then this. He did a other thing before. Oh, yeah. He did like a Miss March. Yeah. He was one of the white's kids you know. Yeah. And that led to the sex comedy Miss March. and then yeah yeah so it's really like it's but now he's gonna do resident evil yeah um an original take which i'm excited about yeah so like horror's clearly proven itself i feel like that's a talking point that it's been like demon like beaten to death i think comedy's gonna come back you feel like i think that naked gun was sold out every time i went to go see it and then i

saw it in a very full house um i think comedy is so rare it's gonna be like horror was five years ago where it's going to be like everyone talks about it because it's like i can't believe a comedy's doing well and then you throw in some of those i think it's fairly low cost compared to other things. I think we need the escapism. I think superhero movies were doing really well in a time that we were celebrating, feeling like, okay, I think we're through this and like there was a confidence. I don't think there's much confidence right now in anything. And I think that superhero films are really good escapism as like optimism and altruism. And I think there will always be an audience for that. I think there's always going to be an audience that

wants to aspire. But I think people are going to want to escape more. And I think that there isn't as much escapeism if you've got homework, which is why I like what DC's doing. I think after Secret Wars Marvel needs to make less homework because it doesn't feel like escapeism if you're trying to tie it together. I think we need more escapist stuff, which is horror wraps you in a world. Comedy puts you in a euphoric state. I think superhero stuff can, but I think those are the things that are going to do really well. I don't see myself going to many biopic dramas right now because I don't want to think about stuff. Well, while we're on the superhero topic, I think that's where when I'm looking at like what doomsday has been doing with hype versus um it's back

spider man oh that sound that threatening sound uh what i'm looking at what doomsday is doing with hype versus spider man i think this the spider man hype seems way more positive leaning than doomsday is it was like on the drive over i was listening to the weekly planet podcast and we're talking about like alan coming returning and stuff and just thinking about how like that was exciting for like a day right you know the idea of like this like giant cast coming in because I kind of hate you with this dopamine effect of these announcements but people are also kind of jaded now by the experience of cameo fest and they've kind of like caught on that I think the average audience members caught on that like they know what they're doing because they need to get people back in the theaters yeah I'm not saying it's going to be a bad movie I'm not saying that at all I'm saying that I think that there's a reason and then I think there's a discourse and then some of that's reading is like desperate with the robber downy junior stuff but I still think Avengers Doomsday has the opportunity to, I think it could turn the tide still if they nail it, right? You know, I think the marketing, though, has to be something truly incredible and truly something

special. It can't just be Marvel and a bunch of names that we have attached because that's kind of what they just did and what we're used to and it doesn't really have power. So, like we were talking about one of these podcasts ago about how like they should do like crazy, My favorite kind of marketing is when there's billboards or bench advertisements for stuff that you don't really realize as part of a show or a movie. Yeah. You know, so that way it makes you feel like you're stepping into a world. You know, like I remember the first time I comes to mind is the show Santa Clued a diet. It was a Drew Barrymore and Timothy Oliphant for Santa.

And it was a great show. I still wish it wasn't canceled. But they were, they worked in real estate and the zombie show. And they were just bench, bench billboards. What are those called? They're bench advertisements. Is there like a specific word for that? But there's like benches like by the buses.

And it was just, it looked like a real estate advertisement. Did you see all the accountant ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like advertising accounting services.

I thought was genius. Yeah, stuff like that, but I think we can do something more ominous with Doom of like, doom is coming. Doom is coming. I think you could do stuff that looks,

that looks like graffiti. They should have dudes in Hollywood with the signs, man, doom is coming. You know, like the famous images from Watchmen like End is not. Yeah, there's something like crazy people on the corner.

Like two of them is coming, but it's a head. Yeah, that's what I mean. Because they, you know, I was listening to Dan Mroll's video this morning and he brought up a good point about what made more money. It was a video like, you guys haven't seen it. It's a really great breakdown of Man of Steel versus Superman in terms of box office. But it's more than just, hey, if you adjust for inflation, this is what it is. It's so much more intricate in detail. And one of the one of the many points he brought up was.

how Man of Steel relied more on traditional marketing, which costs exuberantly more. Versus nowadays, they rely on social media marketing, and that's where Superman really lent into it. So they actually don't need to make as much to be profitable for a much bigger variety of reasons. And I think they can do that with Dr. Doom, not just show up on a famous TikTok or someone's podcast. I think that all helps, and it's cheaper. but yeah really immersing people into the world of making their feel like a threat is coming and then you realize it's a movie i think that would be the best way to go with like dr doom so you build a mysticism around it i don't like robert downy junior doing interviews for it actually

i'd like to not have much revealed about him i think it would be more effective if he wasn't doing it i know he has to get the word out yeah but like but i want to meet him as doom at that cast list announcement that was my least favorite part of it when he showed up as Tony Stark yeah that was my least favorite part of it I think that undercuts the effect of him showing up even even at the you know when I heard he was um doomed I was freaking out I thought that was like crazy I'm like man that's risky that's balzy and I'm excited for it but when I see the footage at Comic Con he's doing it as Tony Star he's like same mask I mean new mask the same task of what the fuck he says like ah it doesn't not is that really yeah doom's not out there rhyming yeah like that is a very Tony Stark. And like, I like that down the juniors. Yeah. Did you find out what a benchboard is? I think it's just a bus bench, yeah. All right. I was

wonder if there was a term. So my penultimate, three out of four is the movie theater itself needs to work on. The Usher element taking care of things, but there also needs to be a mandate for a 60 day theatrical window minimum. There cannot be these theatrical releases that are getting

20 days. If people are going to, we need to train people again. Like people are pattern-based. If in their minds they can wait two, three weeks, four weeks to watch it at home, why would they leave the house? We need to make it so the human beings are like the path of least resistance. Anytime there's friction, you're less

likely to do something. Anytime I want to take break from social media, I need to add the most friction to my life to make it harder and harder to harder to access that thing. If you're going to have a movie in a few weeks and you just don't leave the house, that's a lot easier than buying a ticket, getting in the car, parking, spending money, like,

people are not going to do that if it's an option in a month. So we need to really build out that window. We need to make the thing special. We need to make it cheaper like all those different tiers. But there also needs to be an element of the movie theater that feels worthwhile for any money. The dollar's worth so little right now that if you're going to spend even

$15, say we drop it down from $20, what is it about that experience that is worth it? It needs to not be people on their phones. It needs to not be what you can get at home. So the theater screens need to be updated for local theaters. The sound needs to be up to par or projection. We need to make it an event again, but not have the cost so high it's like a theater like you go in a suit like it needs to be for

the proletariat it needs to be like an every man's event that is cost effective and i think that's what we're missing right now definitely i agree with you on the on the i mean it maybe depend on i mean training though is the it's the key word yeah yeah it's about the human experience because yeah some people will just want i mean apparently it's doing really well on digital um superman yeah and i'm happy for that individual movie and selfishly like i work with dc i any win for dc i'm stoked about it's not good for movie theaters no no but i think though too that when it does go on digital they should be hyping that up as well yeah oh there's be another whole press tour yeah exactly that's the other part of where i've been i've been very vocal about that for a very long time and vod versus

streaming are different things yeah there should be three tiers should be a longer wait for streaming and a lot of times blue ray and vod i don't know why vod comes out before blu ray your physical media people like me and adam lavick all those people they shouldn't be punished and wait another month after VOD and you definitely shouldn't have special features that are only VOD that's crazy I don't know about I think they have I think the middle ground though with with Blu-ray and stuff is that it probably shouldn't be in stores anymore I think it has to be online purchases or something I don't know if stores exist in five or certain stores that's what I don't think like Best Buy is around in 10 years like I don't think what we think of as media

stores will be in a factor man I like going to Best Buy those I do too not to buy just like looking at the equipment and shit but but that's it's not going away, man. Magnolias are closing down. They're getting rid of the sound system rooms. It's all over. But yeah, I think when the Blu-rays and all that are on you know, they have to like mass purchase

and mass-produce them and then most of them don't get sold and stuff. But when it's more of a rarity that you have to buy online, again, it becomes special. It's like buying a ticket to a concert. You really want to go to like, shit, I'm not getting in line. It has to have like that effect of urgency. We need a sense of urgency.

A hundred percent. Vinyl came back. stores are back in some way. We need movie stores. It needs to be like a specialty thing. But going to, Spider-Man, I think, for a new release is the one I think to really learn from what, like, I don't know who came up with this idea. But you see, like, what we're talking about essentially is what is currently working, and anything people do, the term tend to your strengths exist for a reason. So I'm looking out, what are the strengths right now? Not just, hey, just go back to this. It's no, what are the strengths and how do we? magnify those strengths? What should we lean more into? And what they're doing with Spider-Man

is genius because it's the total opposite of what was happening when No Way Home. We're no way home. They're like, we must contain this virus of the leaks. And then I think they, I'm not saying like, spoil the movie. Because they closed off the set for the spoiler stuff. I don't if you saw that. There was three days where they didn't let photographers through. And those are all the story elements. Yeah. So they shot all the cover. They did the swinging. They did all the stuff. They probably hired some of the best photographers

in all of Scotland. Some of those shots were like, good God. But there were three days that were closed sets. Yeah. Learning the best business minds, I think, know how to identify what people might not think they actually care about, but do. I saved those photos to my phone,

and I still look at them. They're badass. The fact that the marketing is so good that I'm like, you know what I'd like to look at? Pictures of Spider-Man, like J. Jonah Jameson. Well, my point with that, is practical practicality the average person i think studios maybe thought like the average person is you have shit about practicality that's just like purists or cinephiles or whatever but i think the

average person it's a subconscious thing it's like the thing with the cell phones at the theater i think the average person does care more than perhaps uh theater owners think they do i think the same thing with um the spider man brand new day showing the practicality letting letting people in on it as opposed to just releasing you know some behind the scenes thing that's like hyper edited right polished it feels so like an ad yeah that still feels like an ad

this is the way of what we were talking about was super like it's it's also fucking free social media advertising and the Harry Holland footage they put out felt like a vlog yes the Harry Holland footage wasn't like an ad it felt like oh I'm so excited first day on set a vlog capturing the memory

of what these people were experiencing already it felt like a TikTok in a good way in a good way yeah um almost like a doc a mini doc yeah and that's what i want to see more of like i love the behind the scene stuff with superman i feel like spider man's gonna have a ton of that because of harry holland yeah like i want to experience that and that's good marketing for another round make that your vod marketing like they did i i honestly don't want to see doom until i've seen the movie so i would love to see like how the voice came together designing the makeup all that stuff but after like there are so many opportunities in superhero stuff especially to make it

feel big and important. But the fact that as of right now, next year, my third most anticipated superhero movie is Doomsday is not. That's crazy. Yeah. Like that's insane after like what Marvel is built. How many wins Marvel has given me. It's crazy that Doomsday doesn't feel special. And that's next year. And that's my third most anticipated. And I'm not going to lie. A good trailer could make it fourth if Clayface looks good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not good. Well, in the thumbnail, I put Spider-Man. I put Benedict Wong from weapons. And then I I put k-pop demon hunters and the whole point of what of that is is we're speaking so much about you were speaking on how like superhero movies provide us a sense of something to look up to an

escapeism and then we're talking about horror providing a different type of escapeism comedy providing a different type of escapism and but the other part is like it's it's the combination of escapeism plus community you need to have both escapism and community you know that's the that's the magic but you can't replicate it's like it's like resource respectable community. Yeah, man. Like, don't be on your phone, but I want us to be together, you know. Here, not there.

Yeah, here, look at this. We're all in unison with this. That's the thing you can't do at home. You can't have this. Yes. So it's community and escapism, which sound contradictory, but they're not. It's, we're all communitively escaping together is what we're doing. K-pop demon hunters is another great avenue, which is antithetical to the idea of like we

could wait for streaming. instead. I think movies like Netflix produces a billion movies a year. Every streaming service is now starting to do it where like Apple produces a bunch of great shows

and they got a bunch of shitty movies as well and Netflix's movies are like so much of the time there's like huge people attached that I'm like oh and I don't ever think about it again, never watch it but they found something really cool and that I think it kind of plays a little bit

in that category of re-releases feeling special. But if they do have, I think they could also apply it with shows, you know, like taking episodes of television that feel very cinematic. They would only kind of reserve that for a Game of Thrones or something like that. But now television shows throw down so much money to be cinema that the line is so blurred on like when you're experiencing a movie versus experiencing a show. That was my four. What was your four?

eventizing theaters. I was going to say things like Stranger Things need to be in theaters. I was going to say things like Andor need to be in theaters. Stranger Things 5. Dude, that would make $100 million. Apparently every episode is like a feature length movie. You're missing out on a goldmine. I would literally make all the finallies.

And I would give the opportunity maybe just one day, play eight hours of the show. I would have watched Loki season two in theaters. Like if I knew, and if it got re-released tomorrow in theaters, I'd be there. Well, the weird part is sometimes they shoot episodes. with iMacs cameras yeah the ratio the ratio changes and i'm like what are you you're wasting you're literally burning money and that's a new event like why i remember uh is it's mandolorean season three episode one i believe was the i noticed it it was like did they shoot this with imax cameras i'm glad on my tv it looks clearer and it's slightly longer but what's the point that it does

reach a point where it's like what's really the like it always looks back like i actually think it looks kind of weird on TV sometimes. Because you've gotten so used to those bars that when it goes, well, let me ask from a fresher perspective. John, when you watch sinners here for the channel, do you recall if they had the IMAX ratio expansion? They did. It struck us a couple times. It's odd, right? It's odd

or is it more immersive? You can tell me what your honest feeling was. It depends. I mean, it's most noticeable when they call attention to it by having the bars adjust, like in that one particular moment where they do that. They do it twice in the movie. I don't find it very jarring. In fact, sometimes I have to remind myself to pay attention. to when it's happening.

Oh, you see, like, because I'm more used to seeing a TV screen filled up. Okay, well, then maybe I find a little bit more jarring when, when I've seen it already. The thing is, is that the quality and the display of the look is so different. Like, Sinners has this nitty, gritty film grain, icky, swampy vibe. And then when they go to IMAX, it's so clean, you know, it's so pretty. and it doesn't evoke the same emotion

when I'm looking at that stuff so I actually find it a little bit distracting when I'm watching it I wouldn't say the same for Star Wars though because it's fucking Star Wars and you're probably dealing with especially if you're doing digital IMAX versus film IMAX

IMAX film has so much more definition because you can pack so much more info on it so like 35 will look grimier or 16 compared to 35 looks like Grindhouse and I feel like if you're doing digital there's probably like less of a valley between how much extra clarity you're getting and that's part of it yeah yeah yeah good point great point thanks for that um i yeah i agree with everything you guys saying and my last point about eventizing stuff is i go see my favorite

ufc fighters when they're fighting yeah in i'm in an emc like if there's a fight and it's a fighter i care about i will be paying dollars to see that because i could see it at a bar yeah and pay a cover price or i could pay the cover price to the movie theater and have that experience i think we need to find things like that for movie theaters where like sporting events as well as TV shows like there are licensing issues but like if theaters are going to stay open work on those licensing issues I feel like if if theaters were smart they do a wicked re-releasing along I feel like that's inevitable before they do this new wicked for a good movie it needs to like wicked was already a massive hit avatar one and two before three yeah those movies are are only good at theaters

yeah people will people will people will go back and watch actually it's one of the movies in the commentary list that I wanted to do. I'm really curious how I, if I like it. Yeah. But I want to, I think that's something, I think K-pop demon hunters is open number one. It's a great example of, yeah, man, these streaming services got to pay attention when they got a juggernaut on their hands. And that's sing-along and regular.

Because then, because then they're making, it's, it's such an inverse of what the conversation is. Yeah. You know, like K-pop Demon Hunters was a streaming movie. Then it becomes number one at the theaters. and if streamers were willing to comply a little bit more, they could do that with more of their shows, they could do that with more of their movies.

And then it's not theaters versus streamers. Right. They can be Sympatico, and you've got a company-making movies profit twice. So I'm saying there's like, there's so much doom and gloom about the movie theaters. I think everything we've said here is very positive in that vector. It's all about shifting.

Yeah. It's all about shifting. And I think with television, like the modernization of television, One of the coolest things that television has done, and it was Seth Rogen or I heard bring up this point, is how there was a time where everything used to be so genre-specific. Like, it has to be a comedy.

It has to be a drama. It has to be whatever. And now that you could do like, everything's a blend now. Everything's something weird. Even the studio is not just a straight-up. Like, he says it's just a comedy. I'm like, I don't think it's just like so intense. And it's like anxiety-inducing.

And I saw the first three episodes of the studio in theaters. Yeah. And that was incredible. I saw the last two. at an Apple event and clearly not everyone had actually watched the show but it hits so different

shit I did not think was funny because I thought it was I was just so pulled into the intensity of the situation then suddenly I'm like this is pretty fucking funny the oneer in theaters was insane I would have mad that

but like why don't we do that I shouldn't be one of 500 people that's seen that that was a where sometimes they do the thing where you're like this probably should just stayed on television this doesn't make sense to put a theater

the studio was a great example because they come from film that when I was watching him like this translates so well to the big screen yeah this translates so well um so yeah i think the studio will be another great one to do and you could also that something like that's like a binge thing 100% you know uh and i gladly dropped 40 bucks for six hours of stuff and like have little gaps take lunch like that'd be so cool i mean john are watching severance right now which is like so many genres yeah you know and so cinematic yeah yeah so i think there's a lot of hope actually i think

There's hope and solutions. And that's what we want to do today. I know it's not as clickbait to be like, here's all the negatives. But I think there's a lot of pros and there's a lot of great things to lean into. But yeah, that's it for that. What do you guys have to say? Please let us know in the comments. I have not looked at our computer once.

I have no idea if we've got a single super chat or not. I mean, do we? We have a handful. We got a handful of contributions today. All right. Let's go into it. John, surprise us. Anything from the live chat you want to shout out?

There's been a debate about anime happening. Okay, what about it? Oh, let's up on another conversation. Let's go back. Oh, anime releases are huge, too. Yeah, they're huge. My Hero Academia, Dragon Ball, like, all the big big ones.

Demon Slayers coming out? Jujslaers coming out. I don't know if they have one. I think I know Demon Slater has one. I don't know if they have one. I saw Princess Mononokey and IMAX. Quadron approach. The specificity of stuff is helping the re-releases. The re-releases of Boca nostalgia. 100%. And then that makes you want to go to the theater.

And there's 80 years of movies. Yeah. Yeah. People want Andor and theories. Sorry. That's another one. There's a lot of stuff. Andor's a great one. This has been a very interestingly moving chat because sometimes they're responding to what you guys are talking about and there are a lot of like, yeah, people wanting the synergy of like streaming in movies

and theaters and stuff like that. Yeah, people talking about My Hero Academia spin-offs and what not. Joe Kiri potentially in the X-Men has been a topic of conversation in the chat and various, yeah, him playing Cyclops potentially in brand new

day, Sadie Singh playing Gene Gray, et cetera. All right, well, all right. Let's, what have we got on the supers and whatever, whatever, how many there are? I don't know, haven't counted I have not looked. It's in there. It's in there. I just wanted to be present for the first part of the conversation.

We got like, you know, eight, nine, ten. That's fine with me. Whatever we got. Yeah, we can hop in there. Let's go over to super check. We've been here for one hour. Okay, we can be live. The two hour was we do, right?

Two hours is a goal. Two hours of the goal. So yeah, we can be live for another hour. So if you got some questions, a great way to guarantee to have your question read aloud. Thank you for the support in advance. All right. And so, yeah, if you want to contribute some more, we'll be here. Very much welcome.

We're going to be here for a little while. Yes, indeed. All righty. Here we go. Cowboy, Bebop, a classic top five anime. intro ever we got our first super chat of the day from cc thank you so much cc and this one is simply just some love to andrew big love to andrew and uh yeah hearts go out to him for sure yeah we're going to be post there's a um a go fund me that has been released that um i'm going

to contribute to today and then we're going to post it tomorrow uh i haven't put out a post on our patreon or a community page yet i told andra i put it out um on friday I was waiting more for him to have his time. I know we mentioned something on our social media, but for those who do follow us on our social, you know what happened. I'm checking in with Andrew every day, calling him every day.

And thank you for the love that he gets is not overlooked. So if you want to directly message him on Instagram, please do so because, yeah, he could use it right now, and he deserves it, him and his family. Love to Andrew. Next up, we got Alan Smithy. One of the best working directors in the biz. And one of our patrons.

Absolutely. Alan says this. Yo, Cohen, Greg. This is a perfect segue, too. If you had to be in the human centipede, which segment would you choose and why? Front, middle, or back end. Front. Front.

Front for sure. Yeah. I'm sorry. I would choose any other position. I don't think there's a second best even. I think there's a last choice. I think there's the worst. Certainly there's a worst.

Yeah. You top three positions ranked. You're in the middle. That is just the... No, it's easily. The middle is the worst. The back is the second worst. And the front is, you know?

The front, you just have guilt to contend with. Yeah. Even thinking about it makes me uncomfortable. Leave it in the comments. It's an impressively horrific film. I have you seen it? Nope. I've had a whole conference.

I call John. I'm like, I don't think I can do it. Like, I was like, even though like the first video did fine enough where we could do this equal. Nothing's worth that. But I'm just like, I just don't want to put it in my brain. I've never seen it. I've heard the second one is. everyone who's talked about it has been like

it is John has described it as like whatever you thought would happen in that one is what they do in the second and more the first one is about not giving you what the expectation is and the second one is about doubling doubt going oh yeah that's what you wanted to see here you go

no plus extra see that's what I mean it's like people say that of like oh what you expected to see and I'm like what I saw was bad I don't have plenty I'm like I think that was plenty bad for me i'm not like wow i thought it'd be way worse you know it's like that was just the concepts enough yeah it's pretty harsh it would be it would make some some good reacting

though i must say not enough not worth it all right well we try i don't care i don't care what money that video would make i just like not interested in doing it actually truly honestly i feel like a movie comes up every so often where we say like i don't know how you would possibly but that is a movie where i'm like i don't know what you could possibly show yeah right Except for, like, a couple of scenes. Okay, that sounds awful. I don't want to do it. Anyway, Ziplok.

Zedith is here and wants to know. Thank you, Ziploc. Thanks, Ziplak. Who y'all cast is Brainiac. I want Glenn Howerton. Oh, that's fun. Ever since we improvised it, I mean, it's kind of a joke to turn a black person

into some makeup-driven character. But it was Tremel Tillman, who I'm like, I don't know, he just kind of sings. Did you hear the rumor that it might be Norman Oswald? Yeah, dude. I'm like, oh, great, wait. That's actually a really good passing too. I've heard that.

I've heard Kang. I've heard a lot of things. But either way, it's Tremelman. He's a genius. He has so much presence. I'm so excited. He actually would be a great king. Yeah, he would.

Especially one that is not jarring me. Yeah, he seems like what he would do would be unique. But same time, it would fit nicely with I think the cadence that Jonathan Majors usually brings. I think there's some type of link. Like, I think Coleman Domingo would do something totally different than what Jonathan the majors did, but I think there's enough, like, odd, soft-spoken menace that I think that Tremel Tillman and Jonathan Majors kind of have in common with each other. He showed up at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery screening of Zoolander, and his presence is so

insane. Like, he introduced Ben Stiller as Zillander. Ben Stiller showed up as Derek Zoolander and did Blue Steel, and Tramel Timmel came out with a full marching band, and I was like, this man's sauce is so next level. Oh, this is a must have been after severance. It's like a Zoolander released. Yeah, this was like two weeks ago. Oh, okay.

It's just happened. But, like, that, like, his presence is, like, a whole age experience. Like, I want that man in the MCU. People loving, man. I mean, I didn't know anything about him before we started Severance. And I was like, oh, yeah, no, everyone was freaking out and laughing the second he showed up. Oh, that's, you were the one I was with it. I told John that, like, the second he showed up, everyone starts laughing.

And I don't know. Who is this man? Who is this guy? Yeah. And now you know. Yeah. And he does have, but it was funny is that in that movie, he does have, like, the best lines. 100%.

He is the best, he is the best, one of the best parts of it. of performance. Yeah. One of the best parts, yeah. Yeah. I was like, bring him back.

Yeah, he's great. Bring back the ship. But they cut to him once at the end again just as we did it. Yeah. Anyway, don't blame me.

I voted for Kodos. We got Robert Proicer next. Hey, buddy. Robert. Good to see you again. Leading the anime chat in the main chat. It's what I'm talking about, baby. Prolific contributor today.

Anyway, another way I can see Mepisto showing up again besides Daredevil Born Again season two would be the Punisher special. He could tempt Frank with bringing his family back. Like Mephisto and Daredevil, that dialogue would be fire. Oh, wait, yeah. Bring his family back.

Period. Like Mephisto and Daredevil, that dialogue would be fire. I've got opinions, but I want to hear Cois first. I hope that Punisher is as little supernatural as possible. It's my personal issue. Yeah, like I love what we got with Mephisto. I want more of that, but not in my precious street-level stories. Like I would not, I hope that it's not Spider-Man or Punisher

because I want to keep those as grounded as possible personally. Yeah, it's not like Punisher comics don't go to supernatural shit. We haven't had a solo in so many years. Yeah, and it just wouldn't, I mean, Daredevil Born Again season one was already like divisive enough as it is in its execution. And Punisher season one is like the most realistic shit. MCU had ever done. It is so gritty and dramatic. dramatic and raw and PTSD driven and you could tell there's research with people who were in

the military that was very much involved in John Bernthal's personal involvement. So I'm not opposed to it like down the road in some way, but I don't think it should be for this at all. Yeah, I agree. But I'm not opposed to the idea of him like him being in Spider-Man, I'm not opposed to or him showing up in some street level crossover or Midnight Suns. But in his own thing, I mean, I'd be happy to see Mephisto and Punisher and Midnight Suns, but not in a Punisher solo. personally yeah me too i'm i'm right there with you i'm right there with you well all right robert i finally got that comic in the daredevil comic um and the punisher main run where um him and daredevil are on the roof that they pull into

yeah uh season two with the gun yeah i'm like oh this is it i didn't know it was in that comic i was like oh this is direct pull yeah it was pretty cool it's pretty cool to see all righty thank you robert i really thought the show just made all that up it's iconic nerds there's actually no one piece of original writing in any comic. I mean, it's a different debate and it's a similar debate. It's way longer and I love the show version more

because of the depth, but I could see how if you didn't have the show and that was your original like that, it's a great scene. And wait 10 years earlier, more, like so many years earlier. Yeah, definitely. All righty. And plus that was Daredevil in a Punisher comic, not Punisher in a Daredevil. Right. And so the tone is accordingly. Yeah.

All right. Sorry, John. We just the cut of you up time. I was like, oh, right. Well, you know, What, actually. I have another. I got a little comic thoughts over here. Additional opinion about this. That one scene. I just don't want to make it seem like I'm trying to stap on you, that.

Not at all, man. All right. Teague. I feel much better. Sorry for being moody this morning. It's all good. It's been very fun time. We got to vent theater.

Hope. All right. Teague, I swear we're going to get there. Was it a bad idea to release both a streaming and theatrical predator movie in the same year? Should Michael Fastbender, David, return for AVP? I totally. got to um i totally forgot to to talk about the gaming side so we should use this as an opportunity to do that segue if you look at mine sad segue what are some movies that i've done well in the

theaters for sure sonic minecraft movie um and five nights at freddies which is that exact thing he's talking about you know and i think pray is another one that should get a re-release oh 100 Like, you know that shit's huge when the new movie trailer is advertising it from the director of prey. And this one's that it takes it. It's going to be like, oh, yeah, that was just a straight to streaming movie. Yeah, they're advertising it. Again, yeah. We got to be one of 300 people to see it the right way.

And it was so great in theaters. Brilliant, brilliant. So, but with gaming, I think in terms of IP to mind, that is like one of the best ways they can do it. Last of Us has proven you could do prestige drama, despite whatever you think of season two. who like precedes drama with it. And they're doing more video game adaptations. Like book adaptations is something that I've existed for a very long time. So of course lean more into that.

I think what they're doing with television shows primarily with book adaptations is really smart. So doing more of that for television. But in terms of movies, what Zach Krieger's doing with Resident Evil, what you brought up earlier, I was doing it as an original take reminds me of what makes fallout work so well. Like there are some properties where I think, yeah, you know, you probably should just do more of a faithful adaptation or something that is i like when it's like i think when they do zelda they should make it faithful because people want it for so long um when they do uh something like sonic though which the story matters to fans but most people just want to play the game and get the rings and

all that shit and they know of the characters but they don't really know the story and they add more and more lore in as it goes yeah so it doesn't feel intimidating but they're still honoring the actual lore honoring the actual story and you got to witness that in place i think mario's kind of a similar concept i really do think that could have been a much better movie um but mario had the same idea behind its belt of what they can do with hey you know like a lot of people the story is always basic and simple but yeah let's actually use the lore and explore that and the same thing with sonic i think what they're doing there but i think where they can get a nice blend of originality and expansion is when you let people feel like you are stepping into a world that is original but still

takes place in the continuity of the games that's what i think that kreger's doing with resonable like it's an original story but it takes place in the continuity of the games that's different than like mc u and dc u which is taking inspiration from comics and graphic novels and making an adaptation um like fallout is the same thing fallout is in the continuity of the games but it hasn't been done in the games yeah and if they do more of that because then you're getting two audiences you're hooking in an original audience an audience who doesn't know the shit like me with fallout and then you're hooking in that massive gaming audience who wants to see the continuity and and explore more of the world to it that is a that is a field

that should yeah so like five nights a phrase is the same thing we're like the lore is huge but when you show up you're mainly just playing with the security cameras and shit so um that was one where they honor the lore to try to bring it to life and and you saw like day and date it was streaming and theaters that's another great example it's huge huge um and so yeah i think gaming is is an untapped is it's still like an untapped way but people are really i think i think we're at a direction now where they can put their uh the foot on the pedal more i agree i think gaming is going to be another big wave i think anime and gaming are going to be alongside comics what have we is there an anime adaptation i'm totally forgetting about that actually worked i know that i know like

in live action the the show alison borderland is huge and that's an adaptation So, I mean, people like Alita pretty well, but I feel like we are still kind of awaiting that, like, they nailed it. This sets a new precedent. The girl from Alien Earth looks so much like a real-life Alita. Yeah, she does. Every time I watch it, I'm like, Alita's real. Damn, I didn't consider that. Yeah, that's a good point.

Yeah, I mean, if they can pull up the anime side, but I think more than anime is the gaming side. Oh, I think gaming's next, but I think anime is even in anime form, it's rising. Or, I mean, is it, what about One Piece? Does that count? Oh, One Piece is huge. So, yeah, they're figuring out on the television show of how to do adaptations for anime. And I think there's some, like, anime movie adaptations that people like that I've just not thinking of. My Kingdom for, what?

Death, no, JJ. Oh, my kingdom for Dragon Ball Z. I did have one other anime movie pull, I think, here. But I get it. Roroni Kenshin, I feel like people like decently. I met the writer of Dragon Ball Z. or Dragon Ball Evolution. Oh, Speed racers.

Oh, I love Speed racers. People hate it. But yeah, it's way ahead of its time. People have come around on it. It's had a big reappraisal. I'm dying to see it at something. Oh, it's so good. Well, you know, like, it's interesting watching Matrix again because I, you know, I often forget that like, oh, yeah, big inspiration of the visual language is anime.

Yeah. You know, like, are you getting sick of energy? It's a tired. Good. All right. So, yeah. Last time we were live, I was like, oh, God. That was so scary, dude.

That was alarming. but yeah like Ghost in the Shell was a big visual inspiration for them when it came to the Matrix. Yeah. And of course they like they did the Animatrix to really show like we know our anime but I would like

because they're trying to do the inverse now or I like John and I really like the Terminator anime show. I thought that was fucking cool. Manson Tomlin. But it didn't really have much of a fan base around it but I thought it was a really cool adaptation. Writer of the Batman too? Yeah, yeah. He's kind of like a

David Hader's situation on that one. Yeah. But yeah, video game adaptations, like, they have to know what to do, though, with picking and choose. I think uncharted, they were trying to do that thing where it was like,

it's part of the game, but it did not land. Did not land. Made okay money. And it would be, it would be pointless if they just adapted the game itself because the game's already cinematic enough as it is.

Like Last of Us needs to be the show that it is. Yeah. Last of Us leads more into the drama than the action. Right. And I want, chat, what are some games that you think could be good adaptations.

Like, people keep saying Metal Gear Solid movie. I'm like, yeah, but it's so long. Especially when... Yeah, I don't know how that would be a trilogy just for the first one. I think when a game is that long and that cinematic, it should not be a film. Make it a prestige show. Yeah, I'd watch. Like, God of War is going to be an Amazon show.

Great. Smart call. I would love a Metal Gear show. I love Metal Gear Solid. Yeah. That'd be awesome. Yeah. People are calling out in the chat Eldon Ring.

People are mentioning Henry Cavill's Warhammer. Witcher people really loved the first season Yeah But that was And that's books and game It was books and game But I think the visual language I think the games were bigger

And the language of it Was really borrowed from that Yeah absolutely We also have some people mentioning obviously One piece in the anime category And a wish

For bleach As well as A kid People asking about Akita And stuff like that to come up cyberpunk people want to see Mass Effect God of War is coming

Mass Effect could be a movie to me Akira has been something that people have been tapped to for a long time So many directors have attached to that That's a tricky one because so many things have done it Now in live action and taking that inspiration So it's almost that thing of like if you were to adapt it to live action Now people are going to come in who aren't initiated

And go like, well this is a lot like these things They could just make a super cut of the things that have adapted it Also, we have people calling for you guys to react to humans in a P2, just saying. Well, yeah, I'm not going to hate that by those comments. Sorry for them. Oh, Metroid, too. It might look like a lot, and then you do it, and they're like, more than someone watching it. It was not worth it.

James Nixon has Metroid as well as Dino Crisis with Scarjo, which we already got. I was thinking of Metroid. I was thinking of Metro. I'm an old school Sega Genesis guy. I want Bubzy. I want Vector Man. I want Mega Man. Mega Man to be fun.

Protoman movie. smash bros somehow I don't know how yeah well I think that's what they should I've I've said that before the Nintendo movie came out of Nintendo movie

for the Mario came out I was saying like oh they should like start doing like Mario Nintendo movies it's the start of universe and build the super smashers yeah we did a video about that like many years make it infinity war out of all your Mario movies

yeah yeah we have to fight a giant hand I'm hopeful for moral combat too man I like I like the first one more than most and I think the second one's gonna be even better moral comments another great example of something that was huge still did pretty well in the theaters in spite of it getting released on streaming the same day and mortal combat too is theater so yeah and it's is tracking well so yeah it's mortal comments are another great example kingdom hearts people are really excited for the idea of adaptation yeah there you go that's a Avengers enough things that it could work yeah Minecraft yeah let's do it star fox I would love to see but we the video game we have Kirby Some love for Kirby in the chat. A little big planet.

All right. Who else we got on the chats? All righty. Let's go back to the soup, pause. Thank you for that, Teague. Great segue. I can only have three quarters of water. I can get a gallon today.

What? Tomorrow's the day. Water rations. It's also more than I've ever drank in a day. I'm so bad having a gallon a day. Oh, man, I'm jealous. But I've been like not drinking during the day. So I get home like, oh, fuck.

I even write it down on my phone to remember. I text myself drink water. It just nothing works. Well, it's okay, because BM is here to help us out. Thanks, BM. Well, we got BM. Which, uh, hopefully you guys each will be having with all of your protein and water intake. You gotta keep that fiber up.

Uh, can we get a proper Eddie Brock venom adaptation? Alan Richson. Hey. That's my, that's my Eddie Brock MCU. Throw a mullet on it. Really? I think it'd be perfect. Really?

I think he would be, because he'd be like a journalist that actually is, quasi-intelligent. He looks just like Venom, and he would be the hulking, intimidating thing that needs to be opposite how tiny Tom Holland is. Like, I would love that. Now that we've had the fun Todd McFarlane, David Michelini, Tom Hardy one, I would love a

80s bodybuilder beast. I think Sam Ramey's intention with Tofer Grace was to cast someone similar to, like, who would be like a Toby opposite. It was Ultimate Spider-Man. That's the, in the 2000s, that was how they played Eddie Brock and Ultimate. It was like a brother to Peter. Like they were childhood

and friends together and they were they were very similar i want 80s eddie brock i need to get recommendations so i was like trying to like google it to see where i would start like i want to really get into x-men comics and i'm like i don't know where to like i've read some before people pay me to recommend kind of i know i just want you could text the person that is better than google ever could be i just want to i want to make sure i'm like not getting lost in the thick of it because like i was reading secret wars and then i was going i think there's some comics i definitely should have read first before stopping in the Secret Wars. I don't text many people back.

I would text you about X-Men comics, Greg. Of all people, I got you. Yeah, they're like, oh, you should read Hickman's running of Ultimate Avengers first. Oh, I didn't know that. I'd get back and read Ultimate Spider-Man and just have a great Spider-Man time. He did Ultimate Spider-Man, right? He's doing the new one. Oh, that's what he's doing.

He's doing the current Hickman, Elvis. And only 24 issues. Got it. So it's very approachable. I'm talking the Bendis and Bagley one from 2000. It ran 144 issues. then got extended. Yeah.

But it covers like 60 years of Spider-Man lore or 50. Do you think the council of reads would be all Pedro's or? All Johns? What if it was just one-page row and a bunch of chockers? It would be so funny. If we'd finally get our wish and have like a Joseph Gordon-Levitt and a like, like, sprinkleted it. I think that'd be fun if it's just a bunch of different ones.

I think it would have to be now that there's two. Yeah. Oops all Yohin Griffith. It's funny people talk about like not. Oh, yeah, yeah. People talk about like too much Pedro, but imagine who's a council. be so funny and it's just him

from all the movies he's in the last five years like it's him dressed like the materialist and Last of Us in Eddington someone edit that but yeah

I think we can totally get a proper Venom adaptation I think Sony's like pulling the brakes a little bit on that shit right yeah but I put them in

in with Spider-Man now because we never got that well they're only pumping the brakes so they can get it righter than they already have but I think Alan Richardson be an awesome one it would be cool

if that is like the ending tease that would be sweet all right thank you so much B.M. Cody Bishop, up next on the Super Chats. The themes of identity, body dysmorphia, and general transness in alien Earth resonate with me. Any themes from recent movies connect to you?

Recent movies, huh? I mean, Barbie really, like, I couldn't, I could not fathom Barbie affecting me as much as it did. I saw that movie four times in theaters because, like, the Ken concept of what masculinity is. that variability and Greg actually I talked about Greg to my therapist this week because Greg said something flippantly to me like a month ago and for some reason it's resonated so much of I was talking about my gym in the back and how much I love that it's outside and you're like why does everything always have to be dirty with you I like I like things like gritty and I like things like I find L.A. to be a very sensitive place and I find I don't feel very

welcome in most circles. Like, I don't feel like I belong when I talk to people that think close to me. And I felt like Ken was that. Like, I like really bro-y stuff, but I don't get along with a lot of bros. I like things like UFC and Boston. And I say words that get demonetized. And I'm on a very aggressive person, but I try not to be a bad person. And that Vennigram's crazy. And Ken made me feel very seen as like, I'm enough. I don't need to blend in, but I also need to have my own perspective on things. And I like, you know, these really big ideas and sometimes they change. And like, I just felt so seen by a guy that was so earnest and so eager and so, like, seeking masculinity and seeking comfort.

That's why I love a fight club so much. But I honestly think Ken is the modern commentary on a Tyler Durden that, like, Tyler Durden's a commentary on Gen X. I feel like Ken's a commentary on millennials in a very specific to me way. Josh Brolin was just on a podcast. a very famous critic who just launched this podcast and what you're saying reminds me so much Kevin McCarthy. I love Kevin, man. And like real life, I've gotten to meet him a couple times lately and we've talked a lot about that. Have you listened to his interview with Josh Burlin? That's so much of what he talks about. There's actually not conforming to a box.

Yeah. Of things, you know. Yeah, I won't spoil it for you. I want to hear because I love Josh. There's a lot of things that he was saying of what you're talking about. He's a writer I read when I need to feel comforted. Roland's writing makes me feel like seen. And so I like seek it out when I'm like off. But movie characters, it's why I was so offended by like milk toast Johnny Storm. Like I don't find I have a lot of characters that are getting the arc that is going from a problematic male figure to a still masculine male figure. Like I don't find there's a lot of men in art that I connect with. It's one the reasons I like Ryan Gosling. It's one of the reasons I like Tom Hardy. Tom Hardy's very

masculine, but he's still a theater nerd. Overcoming limiting beliefs is the thing that I notice gets me most emotional these days. I often say like self-acceptance and stuff. And that's why Superman really hits me. That's why I grew up very in a really cynical, dark world. And I think anywhere I am today is because it's been a lot about having overcome limiting beliefs. Even my health this year, that was what it was all about. Of course, there's the vanity side. But there's also the other real side, which is I never believed I could actually pull off when I'm pulling off. And a big part of it is I wanted to grow mentally and overcome this limiting belief,

which would result in something physical, just like it is with financial success. You've got to grow here first. Some people just get lucky, and then they just feel like, I don't know what to do now. but a lot of times it is that. And so that's why I think I'm so moved by something like Superman. Even the Matrix makes me tear up because that is the journey of that one guy of Neo is him learning to believe in himself. That's where the Oracle's like and you're not it because it's about him not needing the valid, needing someone else to approve his belief. It's he has to believe in himself, you know, and he has to take these actions and chances.

like honestly my favorite moment is when he saves trinity in the helicopter you know it's like it's this crazy like when he's like doing something just fucking crazy like i mean a whole lot like what's gonna do pull this helicopter up but he just believed he could save her in some way and uh yeah there was there's something about that specific theme that gets the most to me is belief and acceptance and that's why warrior fucks me up oh that movie so yeah um And, of course, like, dealing, like, the, yeah, the emotion I have the hardest time identifying that I feel is the feeling of guilt. And it always comes out of me in, like, grumpy or angry ways. And I, I, I, then I have to be like, shit, I was feeling guilt.

Like, I'm so late. It's usually the feeling I'm, I identify a lot of other emotions quickly, but that's the feeling I'm, I'm the, I'm not quick to identify. And, uh, yeah, so, you know, forgiveness and stuff. that kind of shit really like hits me hard. That's why I think like being kind as punk rock, that whole thing like really just got to me, you know? I think it's a lot of people for a reason. And I don't feel like what I'm saying is like not common.

But, you know, I like to try to be some example of someone who could overcome a belief system they grew up with. I just realized when describing those elements to you, like I think the actors that I feel a kinship with are the ones that make me really uncomfortable and it's i never put together that like uh there's this character jkulina on the show kingdom um that made me feel so seen and jonathan tucker is an actor that i really admire but he's not like tom cruise he's not brad pitt i have no problem talking to tom cruise and brad pitts but i ran away from jonathan tucker once at a premiere because i couldn't talk to him i got scared it was my

premiere it was actually a movie i was in and he came over to the circle and i ran away and i've thought about that constantly and i think it's really interesting i was just describing not feeling like I belong, but all these actors, like, I've never interviewed Ryan Gosseling. Every time I talk to Tom Hardy, I'm like weirdly. And meeting Bill Burr two weeks ago, that was the first time I was nervous around someone to the scale of like handshaking fear in probably 10 years. Like being near Bill Burr, I was scared like in high school to talk to a girl because I identify so much with Bill Burr.

And so I just just put together in my mind that the people that I see myself in in art are the ones that I'm like, who. And like, I don't know how to do that. So I'm wondering if that's something I do in day-to-day life. Like, the reason I feel like I don't belong in certain circles is because the ones I would belong and I'm scared of. Oh, so you've got a acceptance problem. No, yeah, totally do.

I just hadn't put together the one-to-one of it. Yeah, I got you. I'd have by with that. All righty. Cody Bishop up next, and I may close the superchats as we have gotten a small influx of them since you guys started. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we all know when I found was up.

Yeah, fuck, yeah. We're determined to end. We need to, in order to do this consistently, we have to make sure we can end consistently at a proper time. We should do a couple super chats at the top so people realize that's a part of it. And then that way it's not an influx. I think that'll help our pacing.

Yeah, people, uh, because I think it's like, oh, right, that thing. And it's just human nature to be like, oh, more of that. You're delaying this good idea. Coydus. All right, here we go. Tori, Jerry. Thank you so much for chime in.

No, more meandering and pontificating. philosophical wonderings about ourselves. All right, Tori, Jerry. I don't think society knows how to make their own decisions anymore from movies to even politics. They'll only see a film if someone else says it's good. That's why I think making it an event works. FOMO.

I agree. I talk about that all the time in the show. I don't watch other reviewers because I don't really care about other people's opinions, but I think that's less and less the experience of movie going. I don't want to know what other people thought going in. I'll sometimes check out reviews coming out, but I would never want anyone else that I respect, admire, to like it or dislike it,

and that inform my experience. So I completely understand how ironic it is that everything I make I don't consume. My TikTok is not my output, and my YouTube subscribers are mainly just if I'm friends with someone. I subscribe, I don't watch any of that stuff. I think it is odd that we live in an age

where everything's so expensive. You have to get like a validation. and so I think FOMO is a huge driving factor, but I don't think anyone should make up your mind for you. It's fair. No, completely. I think everything one should do should be the product of their own conclusion. It's something I heard many, many years ago in that stage of my life

when I was like trying to learn how to, when you're overcoming limiting beliefs, you realize that's who you are at that time and you're just looking for validation all the time. And I've been on the slowest fucking journey in my life of slowly letting go of needing other people's validation, just the more time goes on. Even, like, admitting to you of like, oh, yeah, I should have just been up front with you that I wanted a long time of Olivia, you know. It's human nature, man.

It's so slow. Like, that's where Olivia and I are so often. Anya is very often. Yeah, she's grown me so much. Yeah. So, see, that's why they get along really well. That's why you guys probably had friction at first time. Yeah, which helped.

And she's helped me see boundaries like Olivia has for you. Yeah. So, but I think there is a benefit, though, where time is such a precious commodity, that's the most valuable thing in life, is time. And there's so many choices that a lot of the time it is difficult to just narrow down to what I'm interested in. So if there's someone you do trust

and they're giving an opinion about something, and they're like, all right, this sounds worth. I don't feel like it should be the only sole factor, but if it helps streamline the thought process, then sure. But sometimes you never know. Like, we watch War of the Worlds because people fucking hated it. And that beta's going.

sold the shit out of that movie. I texted John like I weirdly want to watch this movie. I had nothing on the schedule. No one was asking for us to do it but I was like I didn't like it but it was fun to watch it's very likable in that it's imminently watchable and it's a very fun experience to share.

I don't think it's fun bad on your own. I think it's fun bad if you're with someone else you can kind of make fun of it with. I get that and weirdly appreciate stuff that they may have been going. It's like John and I were like oh shit This is actually not the worst thing. And then it got really bad.

But then again, the form of the movie is working over time to make you believe it could be a good movie. It is some of the most hilarious. There's this one moment that is the laugh at. All I'll say is Ice Cube with the coffee cup. It's just still like that. That was when I was like, all right, I'm in this movie.

It's just the most funny cutaway thing ever. But yeah, no. So you never know. So it does it give you the complete opposite thing. So when they say there's no such thing as bad controversy, I think a lot of people are watching that movie because they're like, I got to find out how terrible. I wouldn't have heard about it without all this.

Because all that matters is strong emotion. Strong emotion at the end of the day. There was a lot of strong hate towards that film. Well, speaking of strong emotions, we have strong emotions towards O.G. Carlos. Thank you for chiming in. Who are your favorite? I'll just put this mic to this. UFC fighters, Koi.

Some of mine are Charles Olivera and Max Holloway. I love Blessed Max Holloway. I'm a big Olivera fan as well. Whenever either of those guys fight, it's hard to root for anyone but them, but they tend to fight a lot of my other favorite fighters. I'm a big Michael Chandler guy. I really like Gochay. I am a big fan of how Connor McGregor fight.

Some of his life choices are separate of his fighting ability, but Connor as a fighter is absolutely sensational. I think he's one of the best to ever do it. Old school-wise, I'm a big Matt Hughes fan. I really liked that era of UFC when it was like not quite as corporate as businesses evolved. Obviously, that's a thing that happens. I'm a big Izzy fan. I think the spider is incredible.

I like a lot of this new wave that are fighting not as grounded in pound style. There's a lot of more really intense like Capowara style fighting happening that I really enjoy. So I think UFC is in a really good spot. Welcome back, Rick. Go watch my warrior reaction where it seems like I know what UFC is. My favorite UFC is Joe Roving. Oh, I think you're Mike's off. Well, you missed a great joke.

Kiji. first super, just want to say you guys are the best. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, long time listener, first time super. Oh, thank you. Creative is up next. Thank you so much. Just the idea of being creative has this to say, not to cause any argument, but just curious, is there any comic, is there any movie or comic opinions that you three have very opposite opinions on minus Eternals? I would say it is Eternals. It's the one where John's in the middle. I really don't like Coy Loves. Love turtles. That's so funny. And it's so funny you mentioned that because I was listening to Film Speaks video about it last night. It's like a 45-minute video essay and I was like, fully agree with this guy.

Everybody's making on this one. So, yeah, that's, oh, God, is there a comic movie or any movie? I know we all disagree on the human centipede. I am pro centipede. Greg Saw what. Stonkly anti. We'll never go to watch. I like leave extraordinary gentlemen more than most. I don't think that's

I think people I like it yeah I think the Sam Ramey Spider-Man movies are overrated I think that's where you and I disagree that's a hot take

I love Spider-Man 2 is definitely up there for me I think Ragnarok's overrated I'm trying to think of my hottest takes I would say

Ragnarok's overrated until I watch it that I'm like this movie awesome I think Love and Thunder's pretty good I think Iron Man still top five MCU

um God is there like a mood movie any movie uh batman 89 is better than i thought yeah yeah oh we got bad man 89 movie commentary coming out tomorrow um tomorrow yeah that was fun i don't know what's a movie you like that other people don't i love eternals uh let me look as we all start google yeah i'm going to my letterbox as quickly as i can it's a part of thinking one that the three of a like i love wild wild west oh that's fun wow west is a it's a is a banger.

I think WOWS is like completely overlooked. Even Will Smith throws that movie under the bus. But I'm like, I don't know. I thought this movie's like hilarious and inventive. Let's see. What are my weird takes? I think Enbreuze is the funniest comedy of all time. But a lot of people don't even think it's that funny.

I think it's perfect. I think Warriors the best sports film ever made, even over Rocky. I wouldn't. I actually might not disagree with you. To my number one sports film ever made. Yeah, I might not disagree on that. Hot takes. you got to compile them i think grand budapest is the best

uh west anderson film i don't know if that's a hot take no that's actually pretty is that pretty common okay i just rewatch all these movies royal the royal tenement or ice cold tape um i like from hell i like from hell oh okay i damn why do we have so many aligning opinions yeah it's almost like we get along for a reason almost as if we should i i like I like Lone Ranger. I did too.

We talked about that yesterday. We talked about that yesterday. I thought, I thought, like, maybe I got one here. John and I had to talk yesterday about Lone Ranger. Pirates 3 is underrated. Long Riders actually pretty fun. The hottest take I have that gets me in trouble is, I think heat is overrated. And I don't love it, but I think it's great.

I would literally as a kid, like, I would binge, as a kid, I'm talking, like, a actual, like, teenager. I would binge Pacino movies. and De Niro movies and create a little cinematic universe thing to watch heat to get to that collision and I just never have I've never been in love with that movie

and I've often found it like sappy and pretentiously dramatic Okay this is good This can be the capper on this Okay so your hot take is heat is overrated What classic is overrated for you? Coitus

Uh beloved movie Godfather? You want me to go? Oh, really? Oh, wow. I can't, I can see its merit as art, but it's not something I enjoy. Oh, yeah, I really love that.

And I just go, like, it's good. I see why, good, but not for Koi. Like, I can stand at a distance and go nice. I think at Bruce New Groove is the best modern Disney film by a large margin. It's pretty sick. I think the graduate in there will be blood or overrated. Oh. Let me go to my lowest.

One kind of stung, John. Oh, I'm sorry. I love both those movies so much. I've seen the graduate multiple times, and each time I'm like, I want to know what it is. People love, and this movie just, just, like, defies me to get into it. I love it. And it's all sorts of stuff I should love. I think bridesmaids is overrated, and I think that Armageddon is so bad, it invalidates the entire criterion collection.

Wow. Those are probably my two hottest takes. But not the rock. The rock is fantastic. I also think Melissa McCarthy makes everything She's on worse Shots fired The one she won an Oscar for

She's so Frustrating on screen The movie could have been Even greater Yeah, what it could have been It could have swept every other category We wouldn't have, I mean That wasn't sure

That might have been like I mean I've seen That was the time I first remembered Roseborough Anyway, okay We said no pontificating We did Then they asked an open question Ethan T is here to move us along

I know I sound like a broken record but I can't recommend better man can't recommend better man enough I think it would really connect with Greg and it's from the same people as the greatest showman much love dying to see it Robbie Williams biopic or he's a monkey I haven't watched it yet oh whoa that movie I didn't even seen a trailer I just saw like weird posters for that I heard it's amazing he's an actual monkey yeah dude he's a monkey that's why I want to see it I love monkeys yeah they make him a monkey in the movie I'd watch this shit out of there's some like modern musicals I haven't I've definitely never ventured into the Andrew Garfield one the guy who made rent solid quality movie with the weird

weird Al the Yankovic store that has that movie is awesome I love that very fun movie I haven't seen that there's a lot I haven't seen I haven't seen Rocky Horror picture show even but I'm pretty sure my wife would be pissed off if I watch that with her

I was in the show I was in the LA production for four years fuck yeah man I did Rocky Horror and a dance bell in L.A. I was very naked on many stages around Los Angeles as they were in. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. First time I talked to Koi, like, really was a schmowdown event where you had to have your shirt exposed and you had just had Arby's. Oh, yeah, I was so self-conscious. Jeff Goldman thing. I'm like, why are you having Arby's? And I was like, I just wanted it so bad. Oh, that's right. We were like, really time to grab like a fucking.

Can you blowed up more? Yeah, fries and shit. This man is made of meat. Drinking a soda. The first time I've ever heard a story where someone's documented as eating Arbys. They got the meats and I love them. You know what? They're great. I love Arby's so much when it closed on sunset. I ate it three times in a week and was so sick. When I, uh, yeah, when I was a meat eater, I did, I did enjoy

Arby's. So good, but it's probably the most bloating fast food there is because both the curly fries and the meats. Yeah, and you had a soda too. I never forget that. I love how much you were like, this man had a minute ago. I'm in forever battle against bloat. So I pay attention to like those conversations of like, what are you doing, man?

That is just like not the thing to do. had abs and now you don't and now you're shirtless All right this is a great way to tie it back to the beginning of the show Miss Sam Craig's tributes

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digital boxes. It's also a good wish list tool. I like cover price a lot. Heck yeah. Not to the dreadless conversation anymore. I just see people walking around out there. Who's out in the hallway? Who's out there? Who's out there, John? I will check.

Here, I'll throw you another question, and then I'll go do some investigating. Thank you, Mama. If it's terror and error, just tell them to come in here. Okay. Eric, we'll have to make a little cameo. Eric O wants to know. How do you guys think the Batman franchise will end?

I personally see an Arkham-style manhunt for Bruce with all the rogues hired by the court. Probably won't happen. but I hope we get freeze for part two. Oh, interesting. I haven't actually considered how Matt Reeves' movies would end. I'd actually be bummed if it was just a trilogy. At the same time, I kind of wouldn't want Matt Reeves to depart it.

Yet, the Penguin showed that you could still play in the Matt Reeves world without needing Matt Reeves there. Yeah, Lauren Lefronk really felt immersed. Maybe she could continue on in some way, but I don't know about a Batman movie. It'd be really hard to divorce oneself, though, from the Matt Reeves' vision. Is it be like someone trying to carry on the Christopher Nolan movies about Christopher Nolan? Yeah, I don't want anyone else to do the Matt Reeves, the Batman. I think the DCU is likely to go the Arkham route.

I think DCU with lots of villains is likely because it's so big and spectacle. I think Matt Reeves is going to stay pretty contained. I think Mr. Freese works in Matt Reeves universe more than most people would assume, but I don't see Arkham getting that big third movie treatment in his universe personally. I don't see a supernatural character working in Reeves' verse, but I could see any sci-fi character working. Yeah. like i i wouldn't see like a um god who's like a supernatural character solomon grundy or like even like a i guess there's like a water down version of point

like there's there's like the more realistic but i'd rather see dc of like a poison ivy or a fucking killer crock even that you could do it um but outside of that um let's get the mad hatter in No, yeah. I don't know how it would end. Probably with the Corps of Al's and then Robert Pattinson being like, I can't fucking keep waiting 10 years to make one of these.

I got it. I'm so busy. Keep getting held up. That's fucking production to lose. For the next movie. All right. Kyle Curtis, did you guys know

that Superman already fought Mattallo? It's in the junior prequel novel. You guys talked about it last stream and I've read the book. Now I can't unsee that tone. I'm projecting. I did not know, but I still think it would be a missed opportunity to... Hey, Tara.

Tara, why don't you pop in here for a second? I'm on a live stream. Hey, it's Tara. Tata. I was telling Alex that I think. Tara, what's your... Be honest. Just come here.

You pop into my camera. What's your... What's been your favorite? You've become closer to me. You're way out of focus, homie. Just way... You're way out of focus. There you go.

There you go. What's been your favorite? Superman movie from all the D.C. movies you've been watching with Andrew. Be honest, whichever one. Probably the... Well, no, we just watched the new one. Yeah. Yeah, I love that one.

Oh, you consider that your favorite? I would say that one or the first one. Christopher Reeve or Corns, what? Yeah. Like 78 or 2025? Exactly. Because I missed the nostalgic part of, like, the first one. Yeah.

That they gave you a little bit. it in the new one but when he like when that in the first one the in on the farm I miss that that's very wholesome dad like it just felt real like wow they have a Superman and

they're going to take care of him you know it's when Tara's like not plugged in at all to like social media conversation so this is in the amount we get this is in no way influenced by anyone's opinions at all people think we're lying about loving this Superman

that is just a honest a take from terror they think that you're lying about liking the new superman often daily why it's so good i don't understand you guys and he was awesome and then what's what's her name the lead rachel brosanhan yes at the light loved her like what who's is she your favorite lois um that's hard because i really like the first one and i don't margot kidder great. Yes. You remind me more. You have a very Margo Kidder. I was going to say of any casting ever, Tara is a

Margo Kidder so I can see that allegiance being there. I was like, wait a second. Also, never thought that, so you just said it, I was like, holy shit, Margot Kidder. She's so, she's so awesome. But like also, I don't, that seems so odd to me that they don't believe that you would like

the new one, because I had a blast. It's because I had Greg on my show and I work with D.C. So they assume they puppet Hit me. Give me a break. They didn't get paid enough for that. I certainly don't or I wouldn't have seven jobs.

Like what? No. While you're here, you have a new podcast, a RagePod. I do. Oh my God. Plug it. Plug it. Go check it out.

It's called the Rage Pod and we have four episodes up right now. Rage on Wednesdays. Come Rage with us. Wednesdays every Wednesday it's release. But you can also email us, the Rage Pod. at gmail.com or call us i don't know the number but tell us what you're raging about and you'll be on a podcast too where can they find it anywhere you get your podcast apple spotify we are distributed by the good old i heart radio cool so find it wherever bye uh one more question we'll

bring aaron in yeah well thank you Tara for your honesty and go watch their oh and if you also you know if you don't if you're like don't mind the bench i watch you can go check out their social media rage pod see some clips and you can determine like if this is something you'd be interested in. On the old end stuff. All right. Thank you dear. Yeah. I feel like I see terror for like five seconds at times.

It's the most time I spend it with terror in weeks. It was that moment on air. John Willmore and then I'm going to have Aaron jump in. All right. Let's get the next question now. Somehow we'll still end in 10 minutes. Don't worry. We're getting there. In fact, we can, we can I think we're at the top of the super so we can hit out stream labs on the end.

very in jose don't worry about don't worry about it here we go was watching your superman commentary video when i got the notie for this live no way everything you guys do thanks for being so insightful i feel like i learned something though with every video slash live stream yeah you know i really appreciate that um especially the commentary yeah we had a fun with that very very very proud of how that turned out and like i think or even our batman eighty nine commentary video was better. I think we were shocked. Yeah. We had such a good time with that. It was said different. And I love the idea of commentary because it feels like we get to editorialize in a very different way.

Yeah. Yeah. It's really, I feel like a euphoria when we're done filming now. It feels like this. In a sense. Yeah. Like this is my favorite thing and that's becoming my second favorite thing. We've only done it twice.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I really, really fucking love it doing it. I can't wait to do more. Yeah. So please keep watching and sharing and commenting on those. I'll segue here.

to this somehow, Aaron, get your ass in here, man. Oh, you use Koi's mic this time. Is that we're doing? Yeah, I mix it up. Yeah, yeah. Aaron, I guess we'll ask if you were to do a commentary video here on the channel. Yes. Is there a particular movie where you feel like you would love to contribute some commentary to?

There's a few. I think Wow, Wild West would be a fun time. Oh, my God. Did you hear us? No way. No way. Did you hear us? No, I did that swear.

All three were defending while, well, West. Yo, that movie's awesome. What the hell? He had his birthday, right? We did a song, yeah, we did the song. 15 minutes ago, John and I were like, I love Wawa,

Wes, and I think it's a very underrated comedy. Yeah, that movie is great. That's crazy. You guys just talked about it. I swear I didn't he. A person commentary, Wild,

Wild, that's chaos. We wouldn't hear a single joke. A four-person podcast. We would just be pausing to explain why every joke is funny. He's a desperado. Pause it. This is another reason why y'all are mistaken.

I've done this, running this. I already told you. What else? It was one that's not a comedy, perhaps, that would make it let itself more like a comedy. I don't know if we would ever do this one. I don't think it's the most popular, but marriage story would be a really good one. Have you guys seen this? Wow, that's a deep answer. It's a really heavy movie. You've seen it? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if that's like commentary worthy. I don't know if it's like good views, but that's going to be a fun one. but um i don't know we're building it up we never know we're starting we're starting off we're like we know people would be interested and then you know like today's live streams like a case of that

is like we knew this wouldn't be the most popping topic but we were like yeah it's experiment but yeah there i think there's some really fun movies that would be a lot of fun to talk about first avengers would be great yeah like end game infinity war um yeah there there's so many do you have any like dream ones that you guys want to hit okay yeah yeah yeah he said fight club for the audience that would be cool like club matrix yeah master of disguise

would be fun you have the weird just random 90s movies these are like these are like Saturday road trip movies like they're so specific like I'm going to a cabin

they have this on DVD put it like they're so specific Independence Day would also be a really good one that was one of my favorite reactions we've ever done with Tara here because it really felt like obviously I know

Jaws was like the first blockbuster but this was like the first one I've seen and I was like oh this is like a major thing that's not related to any sort of franchise that gives you the heart of something that is connected to something bigger that gives that raw raw feeling oh you know it'll be good men in black

oh that would be a really good one that is one of the best blockbusters ever made I'm gonna do a night's tail real bad I feel like that movie doesn't get enough love never seen a night's tale dude it's so special react time hell yeah it's like one of my like i almost got a tattoo movies like that's that's such an important movie to me a nightstale's incredible yeah i think about changing your like change your stars

is like my whole credo and i almost got that tattooed on me whenever i'm sad i write it on my fore on like a little emo kid i don't know what that means you you'll see but i'm glad to it means a lot to me and i'll be leading the human centipede commentaries he's the front of the he's leading i'm the front of the centipede here Oh, bad man, would be a fun one. Batman, yeah. We have that on our list at some point. Yeah.

Yeah. The Roger Corman Fantastic Ford. A whole new leg of Reject Nation. Very excited about it. Yeah, no. The goal is like, we're spearheading it right now, but then I told Koi already like,

yeah, but we're going to be bringing everyone out on this. So, yeah, that'll be fun. It's something fun to bring. It's something fun to pop on the pot and stuff. Because I really wanted to watch Fight Club with John the first time he watched it, but I couldn't be like, that wouldn't be fun for someone talking over,

but now I want to do like, like someone shows someone the thing and they get to see it again and like commentate it to be fun that's my clear making sure I have respond correct to me did you guess did you figure it out

that's my conflict with Get Out like Andrew hasn't seen Get Out and like I only saw it once but I'm like I mean I know where this is headed and a part of that is like the twists that I kind of keep my mouth shut yeah I'm like oh but Andrew hasn't seen it so it would be like

a great reaction it would be a great commentary but I can't really do a full commentary because I have you know with him. Yeah, so I'm like trying to figure that out. But now that John's seen Fight Club, I think it'd be fun to watch with him and do like a commentary, all the things he might have missed, like a trivia track.

Is that everyone? Reaction we just shot for a very loved comic book movie that I reacted to yesterday. I would love to do a commentary for that. Can I say what it was? Yeah. Tara and I just watched Blade yesterday. I never seen Blade before.

Oh, yeah, that's right. I decided you guys. you'd never seen the movie that started all of this Without Blade I don't MCU isn't a thing Like Blade is so important

Yeah So good That's what you guys were watching When I popped Okay yeah I totally forgot I didn't look at the calendar And I was like yeah

I forgot what you guys were watching That's so ironic Because the people we've been talking about This week That's so specific Like that keeps happening I love Blade dude Yeah I mean

Eeroxie and John covered it like two years ago It was a little while Yeah I watched that movie non-s i broke my vhs i burnt it out i walked blade so much in 98 i just yeah all right there enough suggestions we got to we got to end the stream so i can watch alien with you all right we derailed this

cameos derails the universe all right let's hit the home stretch here we got one last little comment from ryan s on the supers my wife and i thank you ryan by the way went to men in black two no fucking way what are the odds we are bringing this up what that is crazy. All the movies were talking about. That's called Law of Attraction. Tis. And that happened kind of simultaneously. I just happened to refresh and catch it. My wife and I went to Men in Black 2 for our first date in 2002. We shared her favorite drink at Caribou coffee. We did that for $20. Today, that would be $50 face palm. Yeah. It's a huge

problem. The dollar's not worth much and everything's expensive. So it's really, yeah, that's a big change that needs to happen. theater food is so expensive yeah but they really should um offer like what i love with arc light is they have the different types of popcorn yeah some amc's offer that um but they they feel like they're harder to find i sneak in the little powders yeah i sneak in food all the time but like the powder you put in the popcorn you get whatever you make up whatever gourmet popcorn you want i sneak in my popcorn oh that works because i eat healthier popcorn that's fair i sneak in jalapinos and i sneak in the powder because i love jalapeno my popcorn i just want to

Wow. See you eat in a little jar and I seal it and I pocket. A little jalapinos. They're so good. I act like that. But then I'm like I'm fucking weird. You bring in bags. I literally bring in bags.

Like sealed you're like that's kind of gross. When I went to Black Swan, like Olivia couldn't come in the base. I'm just by myself. I literally have a measuring cup in my backpack and popcorn and a butter spray. I'm just like, I'm weird with jalapidios and you're like. I'm literally scooping it into this cup.

So I'm getting my measurements. It's right, and I'm trying to, like, spray it discreetly. That is mad science of shit. That is actually measuring popcorn in theater. It's so embarrassing if people see it. Like, I'm just like that weird guy by himself. Like, I would take out my sparklinged and water too. Don't shit, there's a quiet scene.

It's a suspense movie, and you're like. Amazing. That's why I sat in the apartment. We're going to get you a special mobile pantry. Oh, babe. closing us out with some stream labs. Thank you guys. Q has this to say

what's your theories and hopes hold on what are your theories slash what do you hope will happen in between beyond the Spiderverse with how successful the first two are how do you think they can top it? Love what you guys do and the work you put in keep it up

great commentary videos. Oh my god I mean some of these I'm waiting for like lead up to them and also in Matrix I was there was a debate, but then I found out terror and Aaron haven't seen them. So I was like, they should do the reactions first this year and then later on we could do our commentary.

That's crazy, though. I know. I like don't know who I'd be without the Matrix. Can't wait to see their minds try to process. I like, I don't know like how I'd got to 2025, but that's amazing. I have to watch Tara try to figure out like what's happening. Yeah, that's going to be. I actually will watch that reaction. I will skip to the

architect seat. Like, do they understand a single word? Visa me. Like, I don't know what this fucking guy's say. Oh, sorry, John. I lean forward dramatically. That's why we have manual focus. Yeah, yeah. That's why I went to film. What do we just bring up? Sorry.

Oh, it's my reverse. How do we think it ends? I think mixed media. I think the first two are mixed media in styles of animation and the second one incorporated some live action. I think the third one is going to be an incredible blend of media like we've never seen before. I think it's going to make who frame Roger Rabbit look

you know, it's so unprecedented. What Roger Robert did, I think it's going to do something to that scale. I think the Batman, too, and beyond the Spider-Verse are doing something really special in cinemas that is kind of the opposite of what people say happens. Like, you wait too long to make a sequel, you wait too long to make a sequel. And I think with how long these movies are spread out, and I believe both will do really well, that people are going to realize, actually, the breath leads to a vent, you know.

Seven years between the first and the second one. I mean, Spider-Verse has come out like 20 years ago or something. We should be on five. I think three is coming out when it needs to. Yeah. Terrible a call on the Rendo. It's coming out at six months. We should never announce at the release date.

That's crazy. But no, yeah, I think when it does come out and it's a hit and people wait it forever, I think that there's so much to anticipation. Yeah. I think it also might bring in a live action Miles Morales. Hell yeah. I'd be wild. I think that's what's going to be the big.

Yeah. Or they should just like really Roger Rabbit and they just keep the anime diversion in the live action world. Yeah. oh my guy yeah do it like a tree house spider ham would be fun in live action like john milady as animated peter porker in live action to be hilarious

all righty we got a quadreforce of dan v 900 read them all at once and we're them all at once because dan v 900 knows how to milk them stream labs he's like i'll get ten questions in one dollar at a time okay well and there's a lot of facts and figures so get a notepad out and be ready to keep

we will remember everything all right dan v has this to say Superhero films Losing China is such a massive issue when it comes to the box office, which I've said before. Definitely. Aquaman and Venom, both almost made 300 million each. No Way Home made 17 mil.

Definitely. Yeah. That's it. J.W. Dominion made 157 million and Rebirth made 78 million. Huge difference now. When it comes to Superman's box office, this is the second one,

deadline used to cover the real box office profits with taking out the theater cut plus everything else. Man of Steel made 42.7 million. Not great. BVS made 105.7 million. Ant-Man 1 made 103.7 and Wonder Woman made 228 mil. Part 3. When it comes to budgets, Wonder Woman made 228 million? In China?

I think profit. I think he's saying they used to break down the profit. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Both things are being said here. Yeah, yeah, okay, got you, gotcha. Yeah, we'll have to kind of see what corresponds where. But when it comes to budgets, Dune Part 1 was $165 million, part 2 was $190 million, Superman was $2.25, and F4, Fantastic 4, was $200 mil. The creator was 80 mil, and District 9 was 30 mil in 09.

If the Dune films can be made for under $200 million, each budgets should be lower. And here's a left term. Agree. You got your fun facts in here, buddy. and I we agree full heartedly we have addressed these points many a time in fact and now have you seen Sing Street

it's a great musical that was snubbed at the Oscars it's set the 80s and it's about a teenager who starts a band for the actress who plays Mary in Bohemia Rhapsody I have heard it's great I love Sing Sing then I'd recommend Band Slam and Tick-Tick Boom

starring Hudgens that's what I was thinking of it's crazy how many movies we talked about came up in Super Chad Yeah, yeah. That's very specific. Tick-T Boom does not come up a lot. Sing Street. I have like the hosts here all know.

They get like asked a billion questions of like, have you seen this? Have you seen this? They get like forms to fill out. And then it often misleads people and think we're going to cover it right away. But really I'm like, I'm just got to try to map. Should I not watch it? Trying to map out like six months ahead right now. And it's constantly changing.

Like the amount of time I spent on the schedule like several times a week is obnoxious. It takes up so much of my time. And other people's time who work here too. So, yeah, it's one of the movies on our list, though, that eventually we will get around to. I like Sing Street. Yeah, big love for Sing Street, personally. And that's a Super Sticker from Stephanie. The Super Sticker from Stephanie Horton.

Go check out Sing Street, guys. All right. I have to say. Thank you for the Super Sticker. Thanks for being a Royal Reject, Stephanie. Thank you guys who have joined us, 235. Not a bad time to end. We started at 1235.

Is that 1230? Yeah, because they end the park. Yes, it's not bad. They did it. We did the goal. This is what happened. happens when you have not as popular of a topic hey there you go you can end on time look at what happens when you're not doing well yeah you're not flooding but you're welcome personally though like in a while

i know i know our conversations that have probably barely been about like Avengers spider band so we are passionate about the theater like this is important to me so this was uh this is actually one of my favorite conversations we've had uh during the show in a while so thank you guys who stuck around appreciate everyone who's been here um don't forget to buy a rejagnation shop shirt On your way out, follow Terra's pod, the Rage Pod. New Xenomorph shirts are awesome. And follow Koi on his personal page as well. Thank you, John.

Once again, thank you all who contributed to our super chats and stream labs. And if you didn't, that's A-OK. Just happy you were here. Leave a like on your way out. See you soon, Reject Nation. Peace be with you. Great last sound effect. What a show.

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