The Reel Rejects - Holy Crap...TERRIFIER (2016) IS FREAKIN' NASTY!! MOVIE REVIEW!

Episode Date: October 15, 2025

FINALLY MEETING ART THE CLOWN!! Terrifier Full Movie Reaction Watch Along:   / thereelrejects   LIQUID IV: Visit http://www.liquidiv.com & use Promo Code: REJECTS Terrifier (2016) Greg & ...Roxy's Reaction:    • Holy...Crap...TERRIFIER (2016) MOVIE REACT...   Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ With Damian Leone & Co. hard at work on Terrifier 4 & the Terrifier Maze debuting at this year's Halloween Horror Nights, Aaron, Tara, & Johnald TEAM UP for some CARNAGE as they give their Terrifier Reaction, Recap, Commentary, Breakdown, & Spoiler Review! From writer/director Damian Leone, Terrifier (2016) is the cult slasher horror that introduced audiences to one of the most disturbing modern icons in horror cinema — Art the Clown, played with terrifying intensity by David Howard Thornton (Terrifier 2, Gotham). Set on Halloween night, the film follows best friends Tara Heyes (Jenna Kanell – The Bye Bye Man, Renegades) and Dawn (Catherine Corcoran – Return to Nuke ’Em High, Long Lost) as they become the unlucky targets of Art’s sadistic killing spree. Also appearing are Samantha Scaffidi (Demon Hole, Terrifier 2) as Victoria Heyes, Tara’s sister who becomes embroiled in the chaos, and Matt McAllister (Law & Order: SVU) as Mike the Exterminator. Known for its gritty atmosphere, shocking practical gore effects, and infamous scenes — including Art’s sadistic hacksaw sequence, Dawn’s brutal fate, and the final hospital showdown — Terrifier cemented itself as one of the most talked-about slashers of the 2010s, paving the way for its even bloodier sequel. In this reaction & review, Aaron Alexander, Tara Erickson & John Humphrey dive into the shocking violence, practical effects, and terrifying performance that made Terrifier a cult horror phenomenon. Follow Aaron On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/therealaaronalexander/?hl=en Follow Tara Erickson: Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaraErickson Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/taraerickson/ Twitter:  https://twitter.com/thetaraerickson Intense Suspense by Audionautix is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... Support The Channel By Getting Some REEL REJECTS Apparel! https://www.rejectnationshop.com/ Follow Us On Socials:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/  Tik-Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@reelrejects?lang=en Twitter: https://x.com/reelrejects Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ Music Used In Ad:  Hat the Jazz by Twin Musicom is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Happy Alley by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/... POWERED BY @GFUEL Visit https://gfuel.ly/3wD5Ygo and use code REJECTNATION for 20% off select tubs!! Head Editor: https://www.instagram.com/praperhq/?hl=en Co-Editor: Greg Alba Co-Editor: John Humphrey Music In Video: Airport Lounge - Disco Ultralounge by Kevin MacLeod is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Ask Us A QUESTION On CAMEO: https://www.cameo.com/thereelrejects Follow TheReelRejects On FACEBOOK, TWITTER, & INSTAGRAM:  FB:  https://www.facebook.com/TheReelRejects/ INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/reelrejects/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thereelrejects Follow GREG ON INSTAGRAM & TWITTER: INSTAGRAM:  https://www.instagram.com/thegregalba/ TWITTER:  https://twitter.com/thegregalba Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:39 You're ready to get terrified? Yeah! Let's do it! Gang! We've done it. We have been inducted into the Terrifier Club. We have embarked. We've begun the journey.
Starting point is 00:01:58 We've got at least two more films ahead of us. They're making a fourth one. Scorsesee the cat was in this. Yeah, I mean, this franchise is, I don't know much about the specifics, but this franchise has definitely grown since this movie, and we're about to unpack this movie. Oh, he also edited, did the sound design,
Starting point is 00:02:16 and the special effects. This is how you make your own films and do it the F right. I don't know who gave him money or where he got the funding to make such amazing practical effects but hell yeah yeah absolutely goodness and a lot of falconies doing a lot of important work on this it looks like too and it was with kick started damn okay not bad well gang if you made it to this point in the video if this video is in fact live on youtube first thing
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Starting point is 00:03:29 And if you happen to be listening to this in podcast form, please leave us a rating if you could. Gang, how we feel in before we hop into our patron questions? This is in memory of West Craven, George Romero, and Toby Hooper, three icons of spooky cinema. Wow. What's the mood, gang? Um, this was definitely
Starting point is 00:03:56 Something that lived up to The reputation that this franchise has Granted, this is only the first movie But still, very, very Gory and Probably even more so than I was expecting Especially with that one very brutal kill With the girl hanging upside down
Starting point is 00:04:15 And just from the, from the vagina to the face From crack to crown Crack to Crown The Fierce credit card, I tell you. you what? But yeah, it was very well made. I found it more disturbing and gory than nerve-inducing.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I feel like I was definitely more anxious during something like weapons, but I feel like for what this movie was going for, they did in a really amazing job. I had no idea where it was ever going. Arthur Clown is a true icon of horror. Both very
Starting point is 00:04:47 funny and very disturbing and somehow finds a way to balance both of those things and sometimes or is doing both at the same time, which shouldn't work, but somehow finds a way to do it. The guy who plays Arthur Clown is doing an amazing job.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing more in the future. What would you, Tara? I, sorry, I got distracted by some of the questions. I really like this movie, but I will say that I was on the edge of my seat. I did have anxiety. I don't like all of The diarrhea thing, I can't.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Nope. That was nasty about. Absolutely not. Get out. The blood I'm okay with. Mainly what stood out to me was practical freaking effects. Yes. And the visual effects, amazing.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Like, because that can pull me out of a horror movie. And that made up for some of the lack of intelligence in some of the characters. But towards, like the end, they each found a weapon, I'm grateful of like they did follow the rules there nobody was like really dumb thank goodness because that would have pissed me off um but the the effects were just amazing that it was like hard to look away because it just it looked really good and there was multiple like normally you see that in a movie that uses practical effects and then they'll switch to visual like because they run out all of this was very practical and there was a lot a lot of bodies a lot of
Starting point is 00:06:23 practical just like a lot of stuff and good job I appreciate that a ton assignment completed and understood yeah this this definitely lived up to the hype of just being a gooey icky gleefully mean kind of movie
Starting point is 00:06:43 you know I like I as a viewer have certainly seen a handful of you know gore fests in my day and this was this was fun i mean like this had i believe this was a pretty shoestring budget movie i i think this was you know sort of a passion project for damien leone leone um and yeah like i said one of those opportunities for somebody in effects to you know create their own thing supply the all
Starting point is 00:07:13 the effects so that probably that really must have helped with the budget because i'm sure at that point you can just kind of comp your own work um and yeah i mean i thought it's spotlet, all that stuff really nicely. And I guess because of the, this was one of those movies that seemed to know how to work with its low budget in a way that didn't feel like it was constrained by its low
Starting point is 00:07:35 budget. And I think that's just a nice thing for the movie. Because yeah, this was a more effective slasher movie than I was anticipating at the outset. And like I thought this would have like much stiffer acting and much more, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:07:51 flimsy characterization. Not to say this is a masterpiece. This definitely is a tropey slasher movie for sure and that's fine. That's the tradition that it wants to exist in. And yeah, like, for as many moments where you're like, stab him again or grab a weapon, there were a fair amount of
Starting point is 00:08:07 other moments at least seemed like they were thought out and it didn't again rely on implausibly dumb characters to get its point across and yeah, David, Robert Thornton or Howard Thornton. All of his names, Thornton It was just really gripping to watch
Starting point is 00:08:24 and had a lot of presents on screen And, you know, I enjoyed the The girl who's Tara I liked the most I like the woman in the catacombs, the baby lady I thought she had some presents I like the Mike guy So yeah, yeah, yeah There's some interesting stuff about this
Starting point is 00:08:42 There's more, yeah, to appreciate Than I may be expected, but it is like a geek show And that's the point, so it succeeds at being that And I'm excited to see how something like this can it's become a phenomenon since this and I know there's like a short that that leads into this movie or that you know is kind of adapted into this movie but I am fascinated now to see what they will do given that I just I know that jumping into part two will probably have a way bigger budget and way more resources and way more room to move and breathe and probably for the people behind
Starting point is 00:09:14 this to do really the things they want to reach for and jump to so I'm excited for that and I think we should jump into some questions from the patrons. But I had a blast watching this with you guys. I had a very fun time squirming and, you know, geeking at the geek show. Yeah, I was going to say, I was like, these guys are having fun and singing and dancing. And meanwhile, like, my butthole was clenched the entire time.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Like, I was like, I can't talk and sing and be like, make jokes. I was like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. It's good, though. We got a variety of flavor. Like, I thought this was a funny movie. like this was like really on the line of horror and comedy for me but it is a kind of comedy that does rely on being outlandishly disgusting so i get why that wouldn't be your kappa and and how that
Starting point is 00:10:02 would not equate to humor for you or for any kind of viewer yeah i think that the bun the gun bit got both of us the gun was really funny it's really funny like just yeah after everything it's so matter of fact and it's also so pragmatic you're like I see you are you've you've had this go wrong before now you know that to keep the fun flowing you need a you know additional tool a little firepower yeah and too I mean to to be fair that kill like when he reloaded it is like kind of savage the use of the the gun goes from being funny and kind of matter of fact to being this
Starting point is 00:10:46 yeah, icky thing that then he's like, she's well taken care of by that point and he's just still like unloading and you're like, ooh, yeah. So yeah, yeah. A lot of the things I wasn't expecting here. But let's jump into some questions. I'm sure we'll touch on
Starting point is 00:11:03 anything else we have on our minds in that process. Corey H. I'm excited to see Terrifier on this list. Question. Here we go. What makes Art the Clowns stand out from the classic slasher icons like Freddie, Michael, Jason, Chuckie, jigsaw, et cetera? I added one. I have not seen these other franchises.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Maybe, like, through cultural osmosis. Me, have I seen Chuckie? No, I've seen clips of Chuckie. Yeah, I would know. I would love to watch the Chuckie's. And they'll be a lot of fun. They're good. But I think.
Starting point is 00:11:41 I think that's something that makes Art the Clown unique is he is both equally sadistic as he is having fun and I and you guys correct me for wrong but I don't know if the other ones are doing this because it's fun for them. I think they're maybe
Starting point is 00:11:59 doing it because I don't know they're just like sick but Chuckie can have that. Definitely Chuckie speaks and has like a whole personality. So Chuckie depending on the movie can certainly be a humorous character
Starting point is 00:12:14 and a talkative character and then of course the later you get into Freddy movies the more like cracking jokes and calling people bitch you know takes place so yeah there's
Starting point is 00:12:25 Jason is like you're just lumbering stalking never speaks killing machines sometimes he runs but like you know he's mostly just a big lumbering force Michael similar deal just more like rage fueled I would say then something like a Jason not that Jason can't get mad.
Starting point is 00:12:42 So he's like that happy medium between the quiet killers and the more fun killers, for lack of a better term. Yeah, yeah, I think it is like a really nice middle ground because he does have such presence and his little mannerisms and his expressions. And because he never speaks, but you can tell that there's a ton going on in there, like it does create this both whimsical and disconcerting vibe around him
Starting point is 00:13:10 and it makes him, yeah, an effectively volatile force because you don't know if he's going to make you laugh or do something really horrific, you know. And I think that's, I can see why he's become such an icon because the look is really distinct. People already, you know, scary clown is just a well-worn trope and a thing people, you know, love and gravitate too. So I feel like, yeah, the stark look of the monochrome makeup,
Starting point is 00:13:37 you know, then with blood on. it is so, you know, striking to look at. And then, yeah, his personality just jumps off the screen. So I could absolutely see as more movies get made, how he has arisen to this icon status. And I feel like he's in the pantheon now, you know? Yeah, I would say what makes him stand out is that he doesn't have a mask on. A lot of them are like, they're masked up.
Starting point is 00:14:01 And you're seeing, like, a real person. There's a lot of times in those films that we don't actually get to see, like, Michael's eyes. but then when you do, you're so freaking freaked out. Kind of the same with maybe Freddie a little bit. And like Jason, Chuckie is like he's just there. But I think with this, you're actually, you're like looking at a human with just this weird ass makeup on and his smile.
Starting point is 00:14:29 The problem with like, there's not a problem with the mask, but the masks make it so that when you see like Michael walking down a hallway or something, you're just like, you don't even know. It just looks scary with just his big brooding body. This is scary on another level because he's just oddly smiling at you and his eye. And it's just there's blood in his mouth at all times. I don't know why. Well, I do know why now.
Starting point is 00:14:54 But I think that's what makes him stand out to me because I am actually seeing the full-on villain like right. It's right there. It's not hiding behind a mask. and it's not a doll. Would you say the arts the most sadistic out of all of them? Yes. I would say
Starting point is 00:15:14 sometimes Chucky can be a real asshole. There was some movies where I was like Chuckie, what the are you doing? Michael is mostly like he's after his sister.
Starting point is 00:15:25 He's a weird like he's got problems. Freddie and Jason are kind of maybe more to me on the upper sadistic level. Freddy is sadistic because he's like Chucky has you know a person human personality so there
Starting point is 00:15:46 are things especially as the franchise gets deeper and deeper and gets more into camp and as much like the further the LGBT aspect of Chucky starts to play in the more you realize like oh Chuckie has his own kind of view of the world and morality and he can be maniacal but he's not like it's weird he can be amoral but there are certain things where you're like, I kind of agree with Chucky on this. Here and there, little things. Whereas, yeah, like a Freddie
Starting point is 00:16:14 art is probably closest to Freddy out of all of these because Freddie, yeah, is just here to laugh and torture you with whatever your worst nightmares are. So, yeah, I would say that that's probably the closest touchstone in terms of just like mean and nasty.
Starting point is 00:16:31 And gleefully so, with that demented sense of humor. but yeah i think that is a part of it he brings the silence that a lot of these classic villains do uh but also a certain kind of gleefully whimsical animation of just body language and presence that is unique and that you know harkens toward a chucky or a freddy but in its own way because those guys talk so uh yeah i think you know i the further they get the more i'm yeah here for art's inclusion on the ever-growing Mount Rushmore of great slasher villains and memorable kills you know
Starting point is 00:17:13 that's part of what it takes to is memorable creative kills so what do you guys think though tell us your thoughts on the pantheon reject nation as many of you guys know i have been getting very very serious about my health lately started off this year over 22% body fat by beginning of september i got down to under 10% now i've been focused on bulking but a massive massive massive part of that. Any fitness trainer I've talked to has really emphasized this is hydration. And my go-to hydration product is a liquid IV. I've been using them before we ever partnered with them, which has made me very happy because it's a seamless partnership. Because when I say I use them daily, I mean I use them daily sometimes twice a day after workouts every single time. Sometimes
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Starting point is 00:19:37 I have heard this. I'm curious if y'all had that problem while watching it. No, it felt like a movie to me. I think it was just a very contained small indie movie, but, you know, it did feel like we were watching this horrible night through the perspective of art and it's just maybe the first time he died, so to speak, you know because obviously all the other characters are are canon fodder for his like sadistic whims but he is the constant throughout the story uh it's not necessarily an arc per se but i feel
Starting point is 00:20:14 like it is one story that we are they are watching but granted i don't have the experience of knowing what the other stories entail and i hear like it gets more um intensive and like it develops a stronger narrative as the things go along but yeah this this worked for me as a movie. I think that like what you're talking about with selection of bits. They started like girls car, girls go in building kill. Kill all
Starting point is 00:20:40 the story happens in one location so it makes it believable. I've seen movies where there are selection of bits where it's like kind of all over the place and you're like oh that scene didn't work out so you had to reshoot it and you move it here and you're like oh my god
Starting point is 00:20:56 none of this works. This however I do think works. I understand like kind of where you're going with it jaden but i i actually wasn't bothered by it and again i really did like the practical effects and i understood why it would just be in one location without like a ton of story it's really just like oh it's a crazy clown and the girls go in there sister has to pick her up there's a guy bombing the place like it all made sense to me yeah no i would agree i think this like i said in the reaction i think part of i think you're Your point is, both of you have raised good points.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I think this surprised me in feeling more like an actual movie than I expected. I saw this like a tight, 80, five-minute movie, and it's like someone's first slasher movie, and I definitely expected this to be more all over the place and more sort of reliant, again, on dumb, like really dumb character choices or really leaning into and kind of taking a pass because of the tradition of that and I don't think they did lean into that as much I can see what you mean in that like I it's weird I appreciated
Starting point is 00:22:07 the structure of this because it feels like the night just kind of begins and they stumble upon art and things kind of unfolded in a way that felt relatively well paced or just like I wasn't really concerned with this moving too fast or too slow or not feeling plausible or whatever and I kind of appreciated
Starting point is 00:22:23 that the structure was like you're following essentially this terra character up until like three quarters of the way when she's finally dead and then it does become a little less focused but you've already established everybody you have so it makes sense that okay we're passing this along
Starting point is 00:22:39 to the sister and whoever remains in the building to try and wrap this thing up and then because you have those bookends I think I think they did a lot of work to tie together what was probably very limited resources and so yeah I left on the other side
Starting point is 00:22:54 actually feeling like this was more of a real movie than I was expecting it to be Yeah, and also you can say that this is retroactively, at least what we discover in the end, the origin of how the sister became mutilated. So in a way, it's her story, but we're taking a round of my way of getting there. That's what I'm saying is, yeah,
Starting point is 00:23:13 like once she takes over, that strengthens the thing. Because, you know, once she's the person we're following, not a lot of, like, actual development or characterization happens, but we have the bookends to tie that together. So, yeah, I think I'm excited, to see them get better but i do think that this as far as low budget movies go stood out a bit
Starting point is 00:23:36 from a lot of similar types of things that are probably made under very similar circumstances and i feel like yeah once i start to realize like oh shit they're making the most out of this one location because once you cut to the coroner's office and clearly like someone's laundry room you're like oh that's right you know like we probably couldn't it would probably suffer greatly if we tried to cut around to a bunch of shit. So, so yeah. But I'm curious to hear what y'all think. I know this is the most contentious installment, and it's obviously the first one, so things aren't fully formed.
Starting point is 00:24:04 So leave us your thoughts. Resonance Zed. Glad to see you guys are watching the Terrifier movies after Greg and Roxy. While not my favorite terrifier movie by any means, it still has a lot that I do love. Question. Have you had to pick your, quote,
Starting point is 00:24:20 favorite thing about the movie? What would it be? I would have to pick the practical effects, while I do love art Art without the practical effect Kills would make him a sad clown And I know that would make Tara a sad clown Agreed you and me are friends That's all I got to say
Starting point is 00:24:34 We're on the same page Resonant Z Yeah I'd say his performance In the movie because he finds This fine line between Being an actual clown While also being scary It's scariness comes from
Starting point is 00:24:52 The the, not lack of awareness, but how not serious he's taking the horrible thing he's doing. And sometimes, like, for example, like, after you shot the girl in the face, the mom comes and he just, like, smiles and waves at her as if he didn't just, like, do something horrible. Well, she says that thing about, like, he's laughing. He thinks it's funny. Like, you know, it's funny because he's laughing. Yeah. And he's being playful at the, the coffee, not the coffee shop, the pizza
Starting point is 00:25:22 piler. The pooh-poo parlor. The pooh-poo-piler. Yes, it is. Gross. So, yeah, I would say that. None of the other slasher villains you know make dokey art. No. No, he's sadistic and every guy on it. That was probably the biggest surprise of the movie. He wrote his name
Starting point is 00:25:38 and doo-doo. I can't. He very much did. That is art, though. You can't argue that that's not art. Nope. But, yeah, also the gun kill was unexpected. That was one of my favorite thing because that was hilarious. Um, yeah, that's, that's my thoughts for now.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah, I would say that the practical, yeah, the kills and the effects are like the star. Um, and yeah, art is really fun to, I think my favorite, this is kind of abstract, but I think my favorite thing about this was just kind of the fun of watching something like this that has a lot of hype and then kind of seeing the problem solving that's happening on screen and the sort of low budget ingenuity that this is able to employ at times. like I don't know that was the most surprising thing because to the question above you know there is a thin string that is tying a lot of this together and it didn't feel as thin as it could have or should have so yeah this this this grabbed me and kept on moving and didn't really give me a chance to fall out and I appreciate that but yeah I mean art the effects it's hard to top that stuff and I just I don't know I appreciate that there was some some decent acting here too Terrifier Johnson. Hey, rejects crew. Terrifier. The franchises become more and more popular with each movie. The third going out unrated, making 90 million on a 2 million budget. What do you all see in the first movie that sparked the future success or do you see it? Thanks. I mean, yeah, I think it's just that. I think it's the strength of the fact that this is made by an effects guy. So the effects stuff is given the best. opportunity to sing in this context, and I know that that's the stuff that is going to entice people to spend more money on a sequel, and, you know, it's a geek show, and art is such a striking character to look at. Yeah, I see it. Like, I, because this isn't as generic as it could be, and because its execution isn't as run of the mill for what this is as it could be, you combine that with the effects and the strength of the motif of art. And I think that's the soup. Yeah, I think what sparked the future success is that he not only wrote it, directed it, but he also edited it. He did the
Starting point is 00:28:05 special effects and he did the practical effects. So when you have someone who has hands there, they make all of the decisions because they're in all the most important places. So when you go to deliver the product, there's no like upstairs people being like, we should. should add in a child and you're like you're like what the and then you have to go through eight and then it's terrible so i i think that that is why and i do hope that in the future movies although i know some people are saying you know this one didn't have much of a story i'm sure with that budget that he he probably got more time and maybe co-wrote with uh another writer and if it's If it gets more story, still align with him having control of, like, the budget,
Starting point is 00:28:54 then you're still going to have a $3 million movie making $120 million. Even though this was $2 million, $90 million, you're going to be. That's a third movie. This was made for, like, this was made in the thousands of dollars, I think. Oh, love it. Yeah, in terms of, this had to have been way less than a million. I want to say this is like $50,000 or $100,000. Love it.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Oh, wow. Yeah. Or less. I'm not even sure. We should, before we get out of here, look up what the budget was. Because I think that's another thing when people see a movie
Starting point is 00:29:24 and they're like, you did this on what budget? Take more. You know, like it's definitely, yeah, part of it. Yeah, the fact that the third one is the one after the thing that started larger success, because I think I didn't really start hearing people talk about
Starting point is 00:29:39 terrifier to the second one. When the second one came out, it was my first time seeing like, oh, this sequel to a movie I never heard of is playing in theaters. All the theaters that I go to. Oh, my God. What you, what?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Oh, you're going to tell us the budget? Don't tell us yet. I want to guess. I want to guess on the budget. Obviously, I'm going to make you guess. $200. Okay. Is that your final answer?
Starting point is 00:30:04 No, I'm going to say this was made for $10,000. I'm going to say $90,000. $55. $55K? Wow. Shit, man. That, all of that money in anybody else's world would go simply to the amount of blood, makeup, special effects, period, $55,000, buy.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And we're talking like, probably actors are still paid. You had to rent that location, right? They also have the outer warehouse with all of those cars. There's still a street location. I'm sure, I don't know if it was sag or non-union, but whatever. That's insane to me. Yeah. Like, I get it.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Like, I've made, you know, indie films and stuff, and I've been on them where I'm like, yeah, I'll take a low pay because this is a good script. But I'm like, 55 for what's in this, for the practical effects alone, that would cost you if a 55 alone. That's insane. Yeah, I think you keep pumping them out if they can keep making it for this low. And it gross, guess how much it grossed, the first one? A milly. No, but that's your guys and what's John. 10 million.
Starting point is 00:31:16 No, 330,000. Oh, wow, from that's... Because this wouldn't have been even in a theater. Exactly. This would have gone to, like, streaming and video and stuff like that. I would have to imagine maybe a small release at a couple theaters. Right. So you wouldn't get that big.
Starting point is 00:31:31 You wouldn't be in the millions, but yeah, you would be... But you would go, oh, we've done better than any big... Any big director, most of them don't even double or triple. Yeah, the ratio is crazy. It's so dumb. So you go to 55K to 300,000? 330. Oh, yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Insane. Golly. But to answer the question real quick, I think the creative use of the effects plus art being just such a powerhouse, or not in powerhouse, but just a visually interesting antagonist on screen, I think those coupled to make a really fun character and movie. And I think that people like that and word of mouth spread. and now we are here at a third movie that made $90 million on a $2 million budget. That's right. That's right, baby.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And I'm not going to get into it now. There's some stuff about that, too. That movie is going to keep making money. Leon 03. What are your opinions on David Howard Thornton as art? Is there any possibility y'all might react to All Hallows Eve? I'm not sure about that. I mean, I think we would all be game to do it.
Starting point is 00:32:42 And I don't know if Greg and, Roxy did on their end but you know it's certainly possible don't know when or if it would happen but yeah opinions on David Howard and Thornton we've touched on this summer
Starting point is 00:32:53 yeah that's awesome it's great yeah he was awesome he's absolutely great performance and too it's smart to have a movie with a villain like that you can kind of get engrossed by and project onto and wonder about and yeah this certainly wouldn't have worked I don't think if he wasn't as engaged and as game as he was and
Starting point is 00:33:10 yeah he's so much presence Let's see Captain Fernandez We've already touched on this But I do want to get you in there Terrifier I know you have seen The first movie but based on what you have seen Do you think Arthur Clown deserves a spot in the pantheon
Starting point is 00:33:24 Of Horror icons 100% He's definitely yeah From this and what little I know about what's to come And the cultural response to that like yeah He's well at home there for sure Ooh we got some fun ones We might do a little bit of a speed round on some of these
Starting point is 00:33:39 But appreciate seriously all the enthusiasm because y'all showed up for this one. Corey H. And to segue off the last question, can we agree that the actor playing art, David Howard Thornton, has the best facial expressions and was perfect for this role.
Starting point is 00:33:55 We can. Yes, 10 out of 10. Absolutely. Holy crap. And I know those weren't probably his actual teeth. Let's look at a picture real quick. What does this guy really look like? David Howard Thornton.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Look at this guy. He just looks like a guy. He can play Joker. He could play Joker. That's what we got to do We got to get him freaking out here Look at how happy this man looks Look at him hey
Starting point is 00:34:18 There's a dashing Loud Yeah I would never know that was him under there Yeah they really build up his chin And his cheekbones Oh go that picture right there on the bottom We're showing them putting the makeup on
Starting point is 00:34:29 Oh Dang Oh wow Yeah so they're not his real teeth They're acrylics Yeah I was gonna say They gotta be But I mean it's the whole thing
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah You know A whole thing Oh, they're acrylic teeth? Yeah, you put on, like, yeah, when you're like... I've been fitted for effects teeth in the past. But, yeah, we can definitely agree on that. And like you said, there's probably got to be million art gifts out there at this point.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Absolutely. Gabriel, on a scale from 1 to 10, how much do you regret saying yes to reacting to this franchise? And why is it 11? Also, quickly look for the budget. It gives new appreciation for what this movie achieves. You see us, Gabriel. You know. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Oh, man. And it's all the more impressive because it is an effects-driven movie and not like, you know, paranormal activity costs like $10,000 or whatever. And there's a different thing that's impressive about that. Whereas, like, this is like,
Starting point is 00:35:25 damn, you really had to put it all on screen and make it look like you had more than you did. Yeah. And I think that is a strength in and of itself. But yes, I don't regret this actually at all. I just regret the diet. On a scale of $1 to $10,1. I was looking forward to this.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I regret the diarrhea scene I don't want to go back But the rest of it's really good Yeah But no I would also say one I've been wanting to watch these movies For a long time So I'm happy we're finally able to do it
Starting point is 00:35:56 I thought The chance to do it was gone Once I saw that Roxy and Greg did it All those moons ago But I'm happy that we're coming back round And now it's our term baby Different time Yes I'm excited to watch the other ones
Starting point is 00:36:10 Yeah, I love a geek show. I love a squirmie. I was the guy who happily watched all the human centipedes. We're good. Eric Horstman, my friend. We still got to come visit. You seem like you would be a Terrifier fan, Eric. I fact, I want to see you dressed as Art the clown, but with no clown costume.
Starting point is 00:36:28 All right, here we go. Welcome. In fact, I want to see you dress as art when he's wearing that lady. That's what I want to see you as this Halloween. Welcome to the World of Terrorfire, John Aaron, and TerraFire. please buckle in and enjoy the rider we are sick bags are provided I'm so excited
Starting point is 00:36:45 can't wait to see your reactions getting my art the clown tattoo soon and I hope it's right underneath your real rejects tattoo just like creeping up on us so what terrifies you walking into a bathroom having it look like
Starting point is 00:37:01 what it did I got a few things one opening a toilet and they're hitting a head in there That's one. Oh, God. Or like a big snake. Or a big snake, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:13 A snake of the butthole. Being at the beach and talking and a bird pooping at my mouth, that's another one. Dropping my phone down the elevator shaft and dropping my phone down the sewer grade. Okay. Those are the things that scare me. Reaching. I have irrational fears. They're real.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Anytime I got to put my hand in the sink drain. Ooh. Not about it. That's one. Not about it. Even in sinks with no. garbage disposal. It's not not going to take that risk.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I am afraid, I'm terrified of dying unfulfilled. I'm not as scared of bees as I used to be. I'm not Nicholas Cage. Oh, the bees! You've got to see that movie too. I would love to watch the Wicker Man. I've never seen it. I would love to watch the Wicker Man.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I've only seen the 70s one and the meme. But yes, I'm sure other things terrifies me. You know, I'm an anxious cat, but leave us your terrors in the comments below, gang. D.K. Lounge, do you see yourself
Starting point is 00:38:16 at least trying to survive, Art, the clown when, let's be honest, he is going to kill you. Yes, because one, I'm not going to stab him one time. Two, if I have a two by four, I'm not going to just hit him and say, get up.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I'm going to keep hitting him until I know he's gone. And then I'm going to leave. yeah i'm gonna try yeah i mean i would want to at least fight him if he kills me i want to go down fighting and then i want the kill to be you know really memorable i suppose i would knock him out stripping of all his weapons and then if he somehow wakes up i feel i got overpower him bigger gun there you go in fact i hope terror fire four is literally one of those movies where it's like we got to send in the military they try everything there's art the clown versus a tank or something
Starting point is 00:39:04 um are the clown versus dexter but yeah i wouldn't just sit there and wait to die. I would at least try, you know. Yeah, of course. Terrah Trier. Tera Trier. Jagger moves like. Question for John Aaron and Tara. What was the most brutal kill and why was it the saw? Well, let's
Starting point is 00:39:21 unpack that. Because it started at her vagina and went all the way down her body and almost fully in half but then just stopped halfway through her face. It's so wacky.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Uh, yes, yes, yes, yes, because it was the, they, they shot it pretty well. Um, and again, props to that actor for being willing to hang upside down to lend credence to that. Yep. And, uh, yeah, it was just real, real, icky quality effects. And, uh, yeah, that was absolutely, uh, the most brutal. I think second place would go to the guy getting stabbed in the face. He's like playing with the tongue. Oh, God. That and the Jackalantor pizza guy. with the flames in it was pretty icky. Oh, do you forget about that, Terrible?
Starting point is 00:40:11 Yeah, heads, Jack Lantern, was pretty gnarles, Berkeley. And I think wearing the ladies' skin and hair was pretty ick. Yeah, that was crazy. That was pretty ick. But, yeah, nothing to like that. The second, that must happen to, like, right at the middle point of the movie or close to it. Because, yeah, that is like the centerpiece, that bisect kill. R.C.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Flores. I've got to control my roles for Terrifier. Tara, are you okay? No. Because it doesn't get better. Well, the question is, I think, is there going to be more poop stuff? Yeah. I think Tara will get better if there's no poop.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I agree. I don't want the poop. I really don't want the poop. Does vomit get you too? Yeah. I don't want that either. You know, there's a whole movie called MonsTurd about a poop monster. Nope, I won't do it.
Starting point is 00:41:07 No? No? I mean Let's watch it. No poop. That was a movie I would find at like old, you know, like Dave's laser place or an amoeba.
Starting point is 00:41:16 There would just be a copy of like Mons Turd. It's like years old. It was like a straight to DVD movie. But yes, Tara. Thanks for Jaguian on me. R.C. I love you and I'm not okay. Jay Rushden was the killing was killing the cat lady a bit
Starting point is 00:41:33 much and would Tara be allowed to watch this movie? Oh, she's It doesn't matter if you're allowed. They would not. They're forcing me to watch this. They said with Tara's cats. My bad. My bad.
Starting point is 00:41:44 No. They're not allowed. They would be too scared. I play them videos of birds tweeting and the sun and grass because they're my precious little babies. And they're not watching this. I was going to say this shit, but it's not shit. It's a very good film, but no. Well, there you have it.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Kayla the king All hail It's ironic to me That I will rewatch The Starfire movies And others similar But have more tame ones Quote unquote
Starting point is 00:42:14 That I won't ever rewatch L.O. Hey, you know, context. What's a horror movie that you remember watching That you would never ever watch again Even if it was on The Movie Watch menu Or you were offered a bazillion dollars
Starting point is 00:42:28 To review it. I think it, which is the, I think it's Halloween 4 or 5 Which is the one where it's like Silver Shamrock Oh, season of the witch Halloween 3 Yeah, watch
Starting point is 00:42:41 Go through the Halloween reactions With me and Roxy And me and her were both like Never again Really? You didn't like it? No, thanks And I can't, I don't know if it We sang along to Silver Shamrock
Starting point is 00:42:53 But then there was another one That was real bad though Because it was grosser Because there was no Michael Or was it traumatizing? It was a terrible movie John Just trying to get to the bottom this it has been culturally re-appraised people do like it a lot more they used to so
Starting point is 00:43:09 I just I don't think we liked and then the the beaming isn't there laser beams at the end and it's your like what's what's going on here it's a bit of a kooky movie that was that was wackadoo wild and I don't even know if I'm talking about three but there was another one that we also said no not again but also no I'm not going to watch this again no absolutely I'm tossed between Hereditary and The Strangers. Oh, fun, okay. I would never want to experience the strangers for the first time again, but I would want to watch somebody watch The Strangers because that movie made me poop my pants dang near.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And Hereditary was just very terrifying. That spooky, dokey. Yeah, there's a specific image of like an old man who's like, Steve. standing in the corner, he's just smiling. Oh, yeah. Just stays on my head forever. Burned in my brain. No, the car.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Oh, with the girl. That is seared into my brain. That was messed up. I, like that movie, but this stuff is going to be seared in my brain, too. So, you know. I need to be paid double. This is a hard question.
Starting point is 00:44:25 There's not a lot I would never, ever watch again or refuse to be a part of. because, again, I have a pretty high tolerance for, like, geek shows and ugly things and things that are violent and gory and off the, you know, reasonably acceptable path. So really, you would never ever not rewatch horror movies is what he's trying to say. I mean, I would watch Human Centipede 2 again for some reason. Not, I wouldn't just throw it on because I am hankering for comfort food. But, you know, like, I can appreciate stuff like this.
Starting point is 00:44:59 So I think, like, it's more a movie like Zero Dark 30. Like, that movie messed me up for days because it just felt so down to earth in a really chilling, disconcerting way. And it was all about real stuff and about terrorism and torture. And that was an example of a movie where I was like, we had to kind of wait to do the review back when we saw it because I was like, yeah, I just feel so, I just felt so empty. and yeah unsettled inside so it's more stuff like that it's more like real tangible things
Starting point is 00:45:35 and yet I would rewatch that movie I've never seen it. It's really good it's really well done so it's great I also understand what he's saying but there's a difference here you see yeah it's stuff like that or it's like really emotionally rending things
Starting point is 00:45:49 that I would have a harder time going back to yeah I get that than a horror movie of any stripe so I guess yeah for right now it's more something like a zero dark 30 or even like i don't know like henry portrait of a serial killer i would watch that again but i remember that movie like that's the stuff that actually like scares and unsettles me in cinema or whatever is when it's stuff that could really happen when it's human cruelty um and uh and yeah that got got pretty close to the line
Starting point is 00:46:15 as far as horrors go i have one and there's one i started i don't even i finished it it was the house that jack built i have heard that a lot of those Lars von truer movies are very disturbing. Antichrist is another I'm nervous to watch. Yeah. But yeah, House Jackbilt's supposed to be grizzly and sick. Yeah, it's a movie about a serial killer. I can't remember
Starting point is 00:46:37 the lead actor's name. He's like a known actor. Matt Dillon. Matt Dillon. Yeah, that's like a freaking X-rated, horrible, horrible film. So leave yours, yeah, in the comments down below. What are you refusing to watch again? You know?
Starting point is 00:46:55 let's see Leon O3 yes there we go for a minute I really thought Neve Campbell was in this movie is the black hair girl who gets shot
Starting point is 00:47:05 am I the only one to see the physical resemblance to her character in Scream 1996 no I can see it I can see it yeah and I'm sure I don't think that's like
Starting point is 00:47:13 a thing they were like it's got to be that but I'm sure they were happy to have that association in the back of people's minds especially given the genre so heck yeah KVB
Starting point is 00:47:25 what was your reaction to art the clown as a villain did you find him scary creepy or more over the top and ridiculous what moments stood out to you the most i think it's kind of like all of them because he was really scary in the beginning he stares at you and then he's like with his like weird teeth creepy as hell and then the overtop ridiculous is like when he's riding on his little bike and then when he does like the bike the horn interface where he's like me me me me me you're like oh my God, it's kind of hard not to just sort of smile and be like, this is so weird that this is happening. Like, but it makes sense because he's cuckoo bananas. So I think it's it's all of, it's all which makes the whole movie
Starting point is 00:48:09 for me stand out. But mostly you'll know my answer, practical effects. I forgot about the the freaking bike. When he like crashes I can't. He falls over. Like I can't. So funny. So funny. I don't that was intentional or if they're just like we're leaving it in. I think they just left
Starting point is 00:48:25 it in honestly or maybe yeah he chose it but yeah this is really funny uh yeah i would agree with everything you said i think it's it's the combination because it does make you kind of wonder what his deal is and what's going on in there and where he came from and how he persists i think uh yeah that the i mean the moment where he's in the tunnel with the woman and she's like kind of doing the jason-esque like i'm gonna kind of be motherly to you because maybe you're missing that that was a striking moment. That at least made me wonder about who's in there. The gun, yeah, he starts sucking his thumb.
Starting point is 00:49:00 The gun was a very striking moment just because I'd never, it's the kind of movie where like I just never expect to see a slasher villain packing a gun, a couple guns. He's so real. He got a couple on hand. This is so funny. So, yeah, it's caught me off guard.
Starting point is 00:49:16 And then obviously the bisect kill. Yeah. I agree with all your points. I'd echo them. Groovy. We got a little trivia. to close us out, D.K. Lounge. The reason why this first installment doesn't really have a plot is mainly because the writer-director, Damien Leone,
Starting point is 00:49:32 was busy working multiple part-time jobs in order to finance the movie while also personally doing the practical effects himself. The first movie is more like a grind-house film where it favors the exploitative nature and practical effects over story and all of the other terrifier movies so far have been released at theaters unrated.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Damien is also not really a fan of demystifying the villain like Halloween did with Michael Myers and prefers the David Lynch approach where he gives as little lower as possible while mostly being ambiguous. It's a solid choice, honestly. I appreciate all this.
Starting point is 00:50:04 And props on all that extra labor because clearly it paid off. And I wonder what the shooting schedule was in light of that, whether he worked to save the budget he knew he needed or if this was being shot alongside all of this back breakings. Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 00:50:19 A lot of shooting from like 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. It's terrible. Yeah, absolutely. But I appreciate, yeah, the need to, the inclination to keep him mysterious. Ah, Kev B. Art, the clown, was deliberately created to be the opposite of Penny Wise from Stephen King's It. He doesn't speak.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Where's a simple black and white clown costume without hair and uses a wide variety of weapons to make him unpredictable. The actor, David Howard Thornton, describes art as, quote, an evil Mr. Beam, combining creepy silence with dark physical comedy. great, that's beautiful. I think that's an excellent and clever thing to do in this context. I agree. 100%. Leon 03 closing us out. This first movie has a very simplistic
Starting point is 00:51:06 plot, even less than the usual slasher, but its sequels do introduce lore that expands the scope a bit. I think for a very indie low-budget film, the team did pretty good job regardless in the Gore department. The art the clown has, though
Starting point is 00:51:21 Art the Clown has appeared in short films, It's 2008. His first feature length debut was in All Hallows Eve, an anthology flick from 2013 by the same actor, by the same director, but a different actor for art. Oh, interesting. I wonder the reason art was. Yeah, me too. Yeah, and see how much is carried over from that
Starting point is 00:51:40 when much has changed. But yeah, and again, like, as much as yes, this doesn't have like a remarkable plot or a very, you know, deep plot. I do think that for flimsy, this could have been flimsyer, honestly. as everyone has highlighted what a shoe string
Starting point is 00:51:56 and the plot exists on, but I feel like it could have been stringier, honestly. Like, a big part of it is just knowing how to characterize to make up for some of the lack of things. And so, yeah, just this being an ill-fated Halloween night, is about as much as it needs to be for a movie
Starting point is 00:52:11 of this length and caliber. Yeah. I agree. Hardly agree. All right, so I do have the Rotten Tomatoes up. 115%. Beautiful. Critics. Critox. What do you think, Tara? I'll go Critics 61, I'll go Audience 88. Critics, 35% audience 74%.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Tara is closer, 63 for critics. Wow, okay. And audiences, though, tipped over popcorn bucket, 52%. Really? Fascinating. Do they not know how much work goes into practical effects? like that. Critics like this more than audiences.
Starting point is 00:52:56 That's wild. I would never expect that. I would never expect that. Are you kidding? I feel like this movie would deliver the goods. That sounds like a practical joke to me. Yeah, I don't know. I guess 53 could be worse.
Starting point is 00:53:09 That said, you know, it's like based off of how many people have done it. I was going to say the critical reviews can't be that numerous. No. They're low. It's pretty low. Yeah, okay. It's like a handful. It's like 27 reviews.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Okay. So, yeah, that makes sense. It's not like 200 critics agree. But yes, gang, do we have any straight thoughts before we hit the road? No. Bring me more terrifying. Yeah, this was a blast. Thank you for joining us.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Thank you for squirming with us. And, you know, just stay silly out there. We'll catch you on the next one. Thank you.

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