The Reel Rejects - Holy Moly... INVINCIBLE 3x06 Breakdown & Review!!!!

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Starting point is 00:01:30 We're watching this damn show now. It's freaking assholes. Wow. What is happening? What is going to go down? How did you convince all those invincibles? I mean, in a universe, a multiverse of invincibles. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:53 Oh, my God. And then to follow that up immediately with this whole episode of a guy viewing invincible as a bad guy now he's going to have to go up against a bunch of bad guy invincible so we're probably going to come to his dimension his earth oh my god be confronted with that that pathway oh my god that's great show so good that's great ladies and gentlemen if you're listening us on apple or spotify we mean a lot if you could give us a rating preferably 20 stars out of five Aaron, how are you feeling, ma'am? Oh, my God.

Starting point is 00:02:30 That's what I'm talking about, baby. That was great. That was amazing from a writing standpoint, from a character standpoint. Being able to, that's what the show's all about, man. It's all about the heart and the character and the emotional complexities of the stuff that we have to go through. And, you know, it's episodes like this that make the patience. of what we are ultimately waiting for worth it because these are the type of things, this is the type of important chapters that build us emotionally towards whatever our future is.

Starting point is 00:03:07 It really questions and wrestles with, like, what is justice, you know, what is right? How do we go about that? How we operate from pain. What is a bad guy? What is a bad guy? Yeah, because you start this episode off with seeing this guy's lens. And obviously, if you see your sister's arm in the guy's hand and then the next thing you see in your vision of being discombobulated is him just having his father carry him off, then, yeah, of course you're going to think that, oh, this is all his fault. And then you just, the way that pain in rage is just so all-encompassing, it's such a powerful feeling, such a powerful emotion, and it can really blind you.

Starting point is 00:03:53 and I think it's so interesting that his power is light. It's like it's almost, it's kind of an ironic power, the fact that he is someone comprised of light yet consumed by so much darkness. And I just think that the way that they were able to execute that was really powerful, really, really interesting and sad, really tragic. I'm surprised, but also not, the fact that they really went there by killing his wife and child and showing it to us, showing the destruction of what that pain can cause using this light to commit such a dark act

Starting point is 00:04:29 of oh man i'm i'm moved i'm i'm saddened i'm devastated i'm excited for what's to come and him having to deal with all this darkness and all this pain in the face of what seems to be these old versions of himself now coming to confront him that the the worst inhibitions of what he feared he's capable of now physicalized in front of him or what seems to be and then coupled with the fact that this seems to look like the same lengths angstrom levy that he beat who we thought to death in the last season so now evil use are confronting you coupled with the the victim of what you perceive to be your darkest act now teeming up and I have to imagine No, definitely.

Starting point is 00:05:22 It was the reason why this episode was coupled up within that stinger was super intentional as to what is justice and how do we kind of come on the other side of the dark things that we've had to endure or maybe even in some part perpetrate. And yeah, I feel like if I was in Mark's shoes, it'd be this thing about like blaming myself, well also kind of blaming myself for what happened for the deaths, but also you know being about being blind to it and while also dealing with the fact that something is coming a worse version of what my dad perpetrated i thought this episode was great phenomenal would you think then yeah i love it a lot it's it is it is a bvs type you caught that early on it is like a bvs type of situation where instead of bat batman being motivated now it's this guy It is a random guy. Aaron Paul.

Starting point is 00:06:22 And I know they did something like that in BVS, but for this character who has like a hint of a power, then for it to be magnified is pretty cool. So we can see what the perspective. The whole thing is a big challenge of perspective, right? As what Aaron was talking about. What is a bad guy? What?

Starting point is 00:06:44 Like, it's interesting to do a show where the question of what is a bad guy, is such a subjective take sometimes and not like an absolute right especially in a superhero show or a comic book show or a comic book story to do that

Starting point is 00:07:01 because in this episode he's viewing him as a bad guy invincible is being viewed as a bad guy invincible upon seeing this guy recognized him as just another disposable villain when he first shows up on the television

Starting point is 00:07:13 and the tragedy and actions of our consequences of what can happen because of that and how important the path we take can uh what what what do we do about our karma what do we do about our responsibilities um post this how to how to handle them some people who you people who you'll never be able to get their approval or their forgiveness from and how do you proceed uh with that how do you deal how do you carry guilt and shame on your shoulders and still do the right thing and still be a hero how can you is being a hero can you view yourself a hero while still doing heroic actions like

Starting point is 00:07:51 it does it just raises a bunch of questions that i thought were really strong and it all stems from not just having like good that's the thing is this is an episode where the good themes are also complimented by like just kick-ass storytelling you know like to have that opening scene with that guy uh what's the characters uh just called Aaron Paul yeah with Aaron Paul's character and dear you to them not let you know immediately that you're watching a flashback to watch his story because that question of what is a bad guy it's not the first time this season has posed that question with characters obviously and i love how just every bit of like the obsession would form because it's not just this guy who is Aaron paul's character didn't just have an event and then that was like

Starting point is 00:08:41 years ago like go of it like this guy's literally parading around town like the world's greatest hero and he seems like there's been no accountability taken for him so in some parts i'm going he's kind of right right like it was a giant action scene between the two of them and the narrative seemed to pierce through the veil that invincible was protecting at the same time um that's one way of that that also it's a bit of a commentary on like what the world the media tells you to believe versus what aspects of society actually really believe happened versus what we're being told to believe, you know?

Starting point is 00:09:22 I think it goes a little bit deeper in a thought. So as, yeah, with the episode is the way it progresses. I love the, I love the, what was the other, his storyline is like the main thing I'm remembering right now. There was like a back and forth. They had the one, two of, again, the paths we choose with a girl who, um, Trinked, Ray and Rexpload.

Starting point is 00:09:43 Shrieken Ray and Rexpload. Stuff with Monster Girl and Rudy or robot. Well, their story of Shrieking Ray and Rexpload was a journey. Again, that commentary about the past that we choose. And I understand that, like, this is part of the emotional effect that I think we were sort of waiting for to hear, you know? And I get that that you want to see these things like cast a pall over it. Even if they're not always talking about it, there's like a tonally kind of conveys. And so I loved that exchange between them because, yeah, when it does get to a point where even as an audience, I'm going, why are you guys doing this?

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Starting point is 00:13:26 Prize picks, people, run your game. You know, what's the purpose of this? I like that they're bringing these grounded real questions. and sensibilities to a story that's so larger than life and grounding it and real humanity and it's so funny watching a superhero

Starting point is 00:13:46 show because like this because Amazon produces two shows that are kind of I guess non-typical of what you traditionally associate with some of the superheroes like Marvel or DC Well boys is superheroes

Starting point is 00:14:02 are bad. No exactly I like that this show, especially with this episode allows that conversation to have more nuance because as we were talking I associated Aaron Paul's character with someone like Billy Butcher and it makes it a lot easier to root

Starting point is 00:14:18 for someone like Billy Butcher because we as the audience know that all these superheroes are bad. It simplifies that argument even though there is layers of complexities there but when it comes to someone like Homelander it is pretty like no this guy is garbage he needs to go but with someone like Mark you

Starting point is 00:14:34 do approach the argument of of this larger-than-life power in association to your pain from a place of empathy, from a place of humanity. And the person who was on the receiving end of your hate is someone who is genuinely trying to do the right thing. And that just adds a whole layer of complexity and really makes things hard because you understand where both sides are coming from.

Starting point is 00:15:02 Because we know invincible as a mark, but you just see the guy who had your sister's arm in your hand in her hand his hand um so that's just that just really sucks and i just feel so bad and he's such a compelling character because you understand where he's coming from and he's just guided by so much so much pain inside and i'm hoping that we can find some sense of like i want to rue for him i because i know that his Intentions are good. His, his, ah, that's tough.

Starting point is 00:15:41 I can't even say that because, like, he's willing to put other people in danger. So it's. Well, he's blinded by rage. He's blinded by rage under the guise of justice. Yeah. It's, it's justifying justice, basically. The, the moment where he doesn't, he doesn't take responsibility for what he still blames invincible for what he did to his

Starting point is 00:16:01 wife and kid. He can't. He can't, he can't face that. he's at he's just he's at a certain point so that what they did was they did flesh out a villain origin story um in a way that is just very nuanced and conflicting which is smart you know because we've seen villain how many times could we be in a position like this where he would do something like come on man that was your fault as opposed to being an audience or being like we know that was his fault but we also totally get why he is just such in blame mode right now like he won't he cannot take accountability for this

Starting point is 00:16:34 you know whereas a lot of times it might be like annoying or like that he's not but it's not like oh shit that's even scary this guy is just that far gone now yeah he's like the he associates invincible with the root cause of everything wrong with his life just seems like whatever things start getting a little bit better for mark somehow everything gets a lot worse for mark yeah that's how it always goes for him right never seems like it's good and then that's what is what does it mean to be invincible you know uh the no one really is invincible so it's it is about getting knocked down and how many times you can get back up as well love the conversations about forgiveness as well like what is forgiveness how can we as a collective

Starting point is 00:17:14 forgive can we forgive those who don't forgive it's a really hard subject if i'm not expert on forgiveness at all and i love those questions that was being that they're poisoning with like will this society ever forgive omneman even if they knew the truth about omneman no but then they present us with a character like Aaron Paul's character who's about to do some terrible things but because we're seeing why and sympathizing for it we're like maybe I can forgive him for what he did you know yeah and then also it's not forget that conversation with uh with Eve Mark and Oliver about you know him reframing Omneman as somebody who wasn't bad or he he perceived Omneman as someone who wasn't bad because of his personal experience and then Mark kind of

Starting point is 00:17:58 recognizing the duality of his experience with Omni Man both the child and then as an adult and then that conversation informing how he kind of approaches things going forward because he wants to live by the example in which

Starting point is 00:18:15 he believed his father growing up taught to him not the man he witnessed destroyed this city two years ago and everything it's so crazy everything from that point on is a building point right I feel like we're having like these I feel like each season is a chapter

Starting point is 00:18:31 in Mark's progression and each episode is like if season one is like chapter one each episode is like ABCD to get to that particular arc right so everything that we're seeing here is like the ABCD of each one and the so what happened at the end of season one

Starting point is 00:18:51 informed Mark in season two what happened in season two informed Mark in season three the confronting of how am I going to approach being a hero and this entire show thus far is about the definition of justice not he's invincible not only the question is is he invincible not only physically but but morally can he be uprighteous what it what is justice what does it mean to be a hero and is that line flexible you know and he's he's trying to do what he feels is the ostracistic right thing to do but he's also someone that that struggles with his own internal blame also someone that struggles with

Starting point is 00:19:28 His own internal sense of justice and his own anger. You know, he has to try to be someone who is, takes himself out of the position of putting the way to the world on himself to try to give light to others. But he struggles with that himself and he tries him trying to do that in the face of also kind of raising a little brother also makes that a little bit tougher. and I'm curious to see with Mark just with everything going on in the immediacy of his life without even approaching the bigger stuff with the Viltramite War are coming because we barely touched on that just sprinkles

Starting point is 00:20:12 it seems like the more immediate threat Mark's going to have to deal with is these multiversal versions of himself and confronting his greatest moral sin which is crossing the line into becoming something more like his father. Well, I think if I were to lay down a very cliche prediction

Starting point is 00:20:34 is that there's no way Invincible can take all these guys on himself. So he would need the help of Cecil and somehow Alan and an Omneman would come to Earth to help. Really? And then it would be like a reversal of, Omni Man's looking like the hero taking out the Invincibles. Oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:21:00 Okay, that's interesting. Because, yeah, we've kind of left... And this will possibly take all these guys on. It's impossible. I don't know if he's going to, maybe he's going to, like, send up one by one. I have no idea, because the odds seem extremely stacked against him. I'm just wondering the intersection between this, the Viltramite War and this now multiversal thing we're going to be approaching pretty soon here.

Starting point is 00:21:21 And what are those... Are we dealing with one than the other? things going to intersect you know what I'm saying because we're dealing with multiversal marks at the same time they have to intersect in some way it can't just be like multiversal adventures because it feels like multiversal stuff feels bigger than viltramite war if they're able to if they're able to pull from multiverse they can assemble people to help them fight a viltramite war and it shouldn't be if you're picking from other universes if you have that accessible to you it

Starting point is 00:21:52 shouldn't be that difficult that monumentous of a task because there's only like 50 vilter mites in the universe exactly so hopefully you know this becomes not as big as we think it's going to be logic and reasoning what stand to say on our little whiteboard here

Starting point is 00:22:07 and access to multiverse to go kick some ass just like an Avengers secret wars a baby man part of me thinks that's a cool idea the other part of me worries that it could

Starting point is 00:22:23 cheapen the experience of dealing with that threat that we've been building up to all season or for the past three seasons but I don't know cheapens it because we can predict it we can predict the outline of events but don't know the exact details of it though

Starting point is 00:22:37 yeah I'm not really right with my predictions on this show I got one I got BVS that's about it called a reference moments before it happened but you know what I mean like of what is going to happen later on in this show? I'm not good at that. No. Not with this show. The show's super

Starting point is 00:22:55 unpredictable. It's crazy. That's the hardest part, right? Yeah, man. You never predict something. It never goes down the way. I think it will. And it's wild because I know I referenced BVS, but technically, right, I have to imagine this came out in the early 2000s. So BVS actually stole from the invincible comic. Hey, maybe. Maybe Zach Snyder just have an independent idea. You keep Zach Snyder's name, out your mouth. I don't want to anger this. I'm sorry guys um but yeah this is so good i thought this is great man i thought this is a kick-hams

Starting point is 00:23:28 episode me too man i thought at a great time glad you did too ladies and gentlemen what did you think about this episode of invincible leave your thoughts down below hey thanks for joining us to talk with you all soon michael b all right michael here's how this works i'm going to guess the name michael means john's going to guess the name michael means and then um I'm going whoever is closest wins the round Michael Michael okay I think that means our not an archangel I think that means a spreader of the word of God yes oh oh the problem is I'm remembering back to a Michael derived a name so now I'm cheating oh yes yeah right oh no oh no Michael is what are you like the the sovereign saint of God's church or some shit I'm

Starting point is 00:24:21 going to guess a different one then. I'm going to guess that it's actually just derived from Formico, the material that they use to make couches or whatever. Michael, what do we got? We got the name Michael is a masculine name of Hebrew origin, which means

Starting point is 00:24:36 who is like God or a gift from God? I actually misremembered this. This is good. It is derived from the Hebrew phrase, Michael which is often read as a rhetorical question. That's crazy. You got a confrontationalist. name, Michael B.

Starting point is 00:24:53 My, who means who, and Ka, which means like, and L, which means power and authority. That's why everyone on Krypton's last part of their name is L, because they got power and authority. Oh. Literally some Hebrew shit in

Starting point is 00:25:09 the, like, Moses' Superman paradigm. Like, let's go. That's so funny. But keep politics out of my movies, John. Yeah, Karzor L, sorry. It's actually we could come back. Yeah. And a good

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The Reel Rejects - Holy Moly... INVINCIBLE 3x06 Breakdown & Review!!!!

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