The Reel Rejects - HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 2x3 Breakdown & Review!!!

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Starting point is 00:01:11 and a large serving size that lasts. Deliciously popped, perfectly salted. Skinny Pop, popular for a reason. Shop Skinny Pop now. all right another solid episode of house of the dragon a lot of thick information this one just starting to feel more like game of thrones in the sense of like i got some shit to keep up with i got to create my own little bible like a little map of things i'm like wait a minute who's who people some family trees like new characters now from from the old times yeah now because like season

Starting point is 00:01:58 and one was so, like, kind of focused on just a certain few characters. Now they're, like, cutting around as so many. And now we're introducing new characters, too. Like, even just starting off here with these two houses, I'm like, who are these houses? I don't know. Yeah, the brackens and the black walls or whatever. Yeah, I don't know. Like, who are these guys exactly?

Starting point is 00:02:18 Well, I thought that was kind of neat, too, because, because, yeah, like, unless you've, like, read the book and you know 100%, like, it's minus the part where you're like, I hope I didn't miss a piece of context. Like, it is fun to be, like, thrown into just the other parts of this world and seeing how all of this is trickling down, you know? Yeah, it still shows the demonstration of what's to come on a smaller scale just between two houses, two houses and this one camp that are feuding with each other. So it still demonstrates something of significance, even if you're like, I'm sure there's plenty of people like John and I were like, where these guys? Yeah, am I supposed to know who these people? Well, it's a nice tone setter.

Starting point is 00:02:56 I think it was a really nice prologue because it plays directly into that that theme that Reney springs up about like, you know, pretty soon we're going to be fighting and we're not even going to know why. And it's like these two houses have been looking for a reason the scuffle forever. And now they just happen to find the right combination of circumstances to pop this off. Yeah. You know, and it's like, yeah, whatever reason we both hate each other, now it's, you know, the legacy of the crown and that conflict.

Starting point is 00:03:24 And, you know, here we go. Well, I like this episode really showing both camps losing trusts. Like, there's something, I forget which character said it in season one, but it's a common thing amongst, like, fantasy and stuff is like the thing that could tear down House Targaryen or tear down a kingdom is from within itself, essentially, not really the outside. Like, they look at like war and such as the thing that will ultimately lead to the destruction, but they keep setting up these like chess pieces with all of our characters to show that a lot of the demise of how some of these things. might come to be, or lack of foresight on things that might come to be, can be due to just conflicts that are happening within the houses themselves. You see the tension and strife here with, like, Kristen, you see what's had, like, even with Amon, we see just how much out for blood he is, and then to be embarrassed by his king brother in that moment. Like, if his brother

Starting point is 00:04:16 wasn't king, he would have whooped his ass. But because his brother is king, he had to control himself. By the way, good on him. He shows package. He showed his whole... Look like his real package. good for him man i was like for him so often you get the actor the male actor to show their full package and he did it utmost confidence the millions of people knowing proud of you buddy full amand proud of you buddy and um if you're watching good job but yeah like it's it's like with the way agon rules where he is just the actor's brilliant forgive me for i know in his name the you know his name i don't know his name okay so yeah i mean he's he's brilliant like watching how you this collision of an internal pain and power is all just like morphing his entire being.

Starting point is 00:05:04 And also a bit of that like homelander-esque quality of now that I am ruler, I wish to be liked. I wish to be appreciated because I remember in the episode where he was crowned. There was a moment when he was crowned and the crowd cheered for him where he was like, it's the first time. Really? He's like, oh, oh, this is part of being here. I could get used to this. Yeah, so he wants to be, he wants people to revere him. He wants the spoils, yeah.

Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah, yeah. And what, uh, what consequences might arise from that? And then on Renera's end, things are in disarray. She's sending people left and right. Her own counsel's beginning to doubt her. So maybe it's not as cunning as it is on this other side. There's still, uh, it's not solid ground that they are, are occupying on like they both camps have leaders and neither camps have followers and that

Starting point is 00:05:58 that truly trust their leaders and when you have a situation like that it's just it could be destruction on that end you know because so many yeah because so many people are also thinking like what am i going to have to do if us as a council isn't able to do you know whatever is in the best interest of the realm or our you know hold on power or whatever and it's cool to see the contract like the comparing contrast because yeah it's like both rinera and agon have you know these warring councils except agons is more just like just you know everyone's kind of self-serving and and they're in the position of like posh and power so like they're kind of all throwing their weight around in different ways whereas with rinera you get the sense that everyone is a bit more

Starting point is 00:06:44 desperate and yes could be playing you know power games but also you know we're on the I always feel like we're more on the back foot and everyone's a little bit more desperate when we're there. And so they're always like, yeah, you've got to strike first. And we're constantly checking in, especially through Renera with the fact that like whatever we're thinking here, you know, Alicent at all are probably thinking there. So it's like watching people figure out how to get steps ahead of their opponents and also maybe considering the good of the realm in the process. No need to do that. Nah. What are the, I have always, it's always funny when they cut back to the small folk and you're like, oh, yeah, that's right.

Starting point is 00:07:24 All the, this is who all this is for, who we barely ever check in what their care about. That scene at the end, though, when Renera finally gets to confront Alicent, oh, talk about tension building. They were totally, I think they were totally toying with the audience in that moment. Yeah, they knew you were yelling at the team. Yeah, like, just say it, because if you say it, maybe we can prevent that shit. That's exactly what he said.

Starting point is 00:07:51 Like, you know a war is going to happen regardless. But at least you want this laid out on the table because the thing, all this has been, because that's the thing. It's a great thing what Rainey has pointed out. Like, it's easy to chalk up to. It's a misunderstanding. She misunderstood what Vicerra said in the bed, right? It's a really easy thing to chalk it up to.

Starting point is 00:08:11 But we all know that prior to that, there was already a lot of planning and trying to usurp Renara from the throne. They wanted to get rid of her. They didn't trust that a woman could lead and all these things. There was a whole bunch of things that Agon should be the one crown.

Starting point is 00:08:30 That's why they were like, oh, boom, we got the green light. Let's go. Yeah, he was so ready to believe anything that would, yeah, make it so that Agon's the air. Yeah. And then they also had the moment, too,

Starting point is 00:08:39 amongst the council after Allison, it tells the council. They're like, all right, enact the operation. And they were already like, talking about it without Allison knowing. Yeah. So, you know, it's like you want this scene to take place, but it won't make a difference.

Starting point is 00:08:57 You know? Well, yeah, and that's the power of the drama there. And I love the way they played that whole scene back and forth, like from the initial, like, there were little flashes because obviously they've grown so much over time. They're both under huge amounts of pressure. They're both in way different places than when we left them as, you know, friends in the past. Yeah. And yet you still see like the girl, like the young girls within them kind of come out a little bit here and there and just little mannerisms of that kind of like, what are you doing? What are you doing here? Yeah. And, uh, and yeah, the, the back and forth between them, especially when you get to the end and especially when Alicent is like, is is just reaffirming her stance, but not really doing that is basically just going like it's too late now. Like this information, like I can only imagine as much as, you know, Alice, has been sort of the perpetrator of many questionable acts and, you know, chain reactions on

Starting point is 00:09:54 this show. It is one of those things where, again, they always bring me back to this weird sympathy because I'm like, man, right now you must be feeling the weight of the fact that, like, a simple misunderstanding that you deliver to everybody has been a large part of all this. And I like, too, that they go through that hierarchy of like, when did this begin? You know, was it when, you know, was it your son was killed was it when uh you know luceris took a uh amon's eye like how many points of no return have we been passed at this point you know mounting to this and this is the worst one of them and it falls on her yeah yeah well you're better than i because i have zero sympathy for her not an ounce i i mean i serves death i feel sympathy for the girl she used to be and and uh she has to take

Starting point is 00:10:47 accountability. I mean, she should. She has to take accountability. She should, but she's screwed now. You feel all the sympathy you want. She has to double down on the lot. I don't want to sway you away from your empathetic side. I don't want you to. I don't think we need some more of that empathy. And I bet the truth is going to come out of her at some point.

Starting point is 00:11:06 Death to her. Yes. She is 100% jugular. Evil. And on top of that, let's harass this actress's social media account. Yes, in fact. Let's do that. I feel like that's probably a good idea. Yeah. Is that if there's a character we hate, we harass the actor in real life.

Starting point is 00:11:24 That's what Reniro would want. To prove our allegiance to the Targaryen bloodline, we need to the house of black, I should say. I mean, look her name up so that way I could cook something like that. Yes. Cookie. Cookie. Cookie. Her name is cookie.

Starting point is 00:11:40 Cookie the actress. Yeah. And then I'll take up the white night. stance i'll be out here on social media being like no no all you guys no we got to do it i'll feel better about my we'll all feel better about ourselves knowing this is the way if we could drive all the greens off social media shot and produced and this is going to be airy we go let's drive the actress who plays alison off social media let's drive the actor who plays sir christin cole off social media let's do it let's do it and then let's say everyone on the aisle drive rie sophons

Starting point is 00:12:12 off social media yeah but yeah and that scene I think there's a lot of really great unspoken moments between them as well. Like you could see when Rainera is starting to doubt herself. Like, oh, maybe my dad did actually change his mind at the last minute. And even when talking about what were his final words, feeling like she's not even mentioned, you know, the sadness there. Or even down to Olivia Cook, I think is her name. Olivia Cook?

Starting point is 00:12:39 There you go. You got it. Wonder winner. Now we know who to drive off the internet. Who to harass and treat her as if she's actually Allison. Who to conflate with the character they play on TV. If you see her going to get an espresso from a Starbucks, you yell at her. Shame her in public and drag her body through the streets as an example to the small phone.

Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah, this is the smart thing to do. So what her performance, even when she is realizing like, oh shit, I done messed up. Oh, yeah. There is that weight of, I can't really do anything about it now. And I'm not going to, you know, succumb to the responsibility and perhaps the guilt of this mistake. Because maybe I wanted to believe what Vissera said instead of questioning what Vicerra said. Everything easier. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:33 I think, I think there's a lot of great, this is a great acting scene of a lot of things being said without them actually saying it. She's going to become like Lady Macbeth by the end of this. she's going to be so like driven out of mind by all these circumstances and it's interesting with like MVP character damon like the most beloved one who's who's kind of used sparingly in these last three episodes i thought for a second like oh this might be like the damon episode with the amount of focus we got at him taking haran arnold heron hall yeah yet uh that scene was a it was a good one and it it it just makes it kind of question damon's motives you know is it is it's beginning to lose i thought it was a little bit more complex and i felt like he was doing

Starting point is 00:14:19 this the name of ronera but now it seems like he might just be especially that whole like you address me as your grace i feel like he does everything he seems like the kind to like play both sides or play both aspects simultaneously like yeah you know if rinera does make it through and and all this kind of pans out well for her then then yeah i guess i'm doing this on both of our behalf but I don't think he's probably very optimistic about that. And so, yeah, this is also contingency for him. Yeah. Yeah, man.

Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah, it's all good stuff. Corliss might die. No, I love Corlis. I like the High Tower brother. Oh, yeah. It seems like a good foil for Kristen. Yeah. Although he's got to get his courage up.

Starting point is 00:15:02 Kristen came out looking better in that situation. Unfortunately, I was ready for the brother to take him down. It's because Kristen knew to look to the sky. That's right. He did. And he's, you know, hate him all you want. He's got a few sharp instincts. That Christian, Kristen Cole.

Starting point is 00:15:17 I really don't like him. He's the worst. He's the absolute worst. And I haven't seen, like, I want to watch some interviews with that guy, see what his personality's actually like, because all I know of him is this, and I hate this guy. The one scene that really stood out to me as being very freaking weird was the scene with

Starting point is 00:15:41 what is his, I don't know his name. The dude who's the bastard brother to Vissaris and Damon. Oh, Ulf or whatever, Ooliff. Whatever. Bay Wolf. Bayo Wolf. His scene, whilst giving us the information, I'm like, homie, you were just divulging this

Starting point is 00:16:01 to somebody you just met and why? I missed why he would do that. like it just kind of read as weird to me and then like they need to give this information to the audiences are setting up a character that's more of what it read to me as i don't know if there's actually like a respect from knowing who he was talking to or he likes to throw this information out there and be like he don't tell anybody because he knows it might wield some power in some way but either way did read kind of weird to me uh and the way that information just sort of came out of him yeah yeah yeah it's like the way he offers it up and too it just has me sitting here being like is he telling the truth or is he spinning some kind of web i i guess i don't feel like we wouldn't have cut to him if it wasn't telling the truth i mean that's his whole scene yeah i mean i can't help but wonder how many people have cooked up a scheme like this but also i suppose if he's just telling this to like taverners it must be true i guess you would more want to spin this lie to someone

Starting point is 00:17:03 with power rather than just people out of a night drinking but it was i'm sure you he's going to come into play and I'm sure he's going to be a wrench in various gears because he seems like a figure who's, you know, between all of it, even if he does have allegiance to Reneiro, which he does express. I don't know. I don't know yet. He seems like a, like a boisterous, affable guy, so I hope his presence bodes well, but I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know, but you guys let me know how you're feeling. Please. Yeah, leave us your emotions. There is a bit of, have we reached too many characters?

Starting point is 00:17:45 There is a bit of that. I mean, I know Game of Thrones, even in its prime years, was great at juggling so many storylines and so many characters. But it does get to, there's some characters here where they will cut to, and I start to wonder, are there too many now where it's feeling like a disservice to some? like uh i don't know like the helena scene kind of comes to mind like i like this like a lot of the there's not there's not a single scene i don't like it's just there's so much that's happening

Starting point is 00:18:16 with characters now yeah yeah it's easy to forget about oh yeah this happened in this episode is more so the feeling that i have yeah yeah or like the or whenever bala and her sister show up i'm like oh that's right you guys are here too and then she's got a whole like assignment now here i don't know i mean i i i don't know if it's if it's even the way like some of the aim and storylines being treated too you know yeah yeah you don't feel as as though you're as immersed in certain things i don't know i it it to me it's a question of with game of thrones i feel like the map felt really wide and the different spots on the map felt really distinct and also you had like way more readily separated house

Starting point is 00:19:05 is whereas here you have like you know an intermingling of like you have the prominent names that you are at the top of the tier right now are Targaryen and Hightower and then you have all these other names that are familiar if you know Game of Thrones but I feel like the distinctions between all of them aren't quite as vivid or aren't I don't know we just haven't had cause to like travel in the way I guess that would make these things feel a little more like Anytime we're not in Kingslanding or Dragonstone, I have to sort of like remind myself, okay, where,

Starting point is 00:19:37 Heron Hall, okay, where are we again? Yeah, yeah. And, yeah, like, Game of Thrones, I feel like some of those things were a little bit easier to, I feel like we pay, we put effort into paying the attention into picking up these names

Starting point is 00:19:52 into like, you know, re-upping on the info outside of the video between things, but I feel like if a show is doing a good enough job, a lot of things will stick. And so, yeah, I feel like maybe that's one element that could be a little bit more, I don't know. I don't know exactly what I would suggest they do because I've loved a lot of the stuff we've been focusing on. But there are times where I feel a little dizzy and I'm a little bit like, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

Starting point is 00:20:19 Let me orient myself again. Wait, wait, wait, what are these names again? Yeah, yeah. Like, it does count on you just sort of like logging information the second it comes up and then it might not come up for two or three episodes, but you best remember when it does. So it does keep you on your toes. I would be curious to hear what other people's experience of that is, too. Who are not book reader. Who are not book.

Starting point is 00:20:38 If you're a book reader, you know all of those. You have way more of an advantage to keep it up with the shit. But if you're not a book reader, is at times, do you find yourself going, wait a minute. And I mean, too, it's been a common, it's a common thing across all these fantasy stories, but, you know, names that are similar to other names and stuff like that. Like, I got so confused of the Aaron Hall scene. I thought for sure that was where Luceris went and confronted to try to reign. I thought it was too. It certainly felt like that.

Starting point is 00:21:11 The, yeah, Lord, who's it's Barathean or whatever. Was it a Barathean? Or was it a Tully? I think it was a Barathean. Who is the... I was watching this again just recently. The guy who was in this show, the game, who was the guy who killed John Wicks' dog? Oh, oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:30 Alfie. What's his house? Grayjoy. I think it was a gray joy. They mentioned a gray joy in one of these episodes. They mentioned a gray joy in the first episode. The first episode. Well, I think Amon's there to be married to someone.

Starting point is 00:21:43 I don't know. I remember. I'll go back and rewatch the finale again. I'm sorry to lose track of it. I am sorry. I am sorry to lose track. I've rewatched the whole thing to touch and avoid this and it's already like happening. Well, no, yeah, that same.

Starting point is 00:21:56 But the, but no, like that location, because he's saying, that's where unless I come I'm complete and again I we're obviously not no at all so like we wanted no yeah and I'm hoping the best we can do for people who have a camera pointed us is have some people identify with this is that yeah that scene looked exactly like that but I remember when the strongs they went back like renair the people who were really the the father of renara's children and they went back to their hometown that burned they were like on carriages and they rode into there and it would it didn't look like a stormy land island it didn't appear as this place that's like on a rock in the middle of the sea with like no other land or

Starting point is 00:22:43 yeah yeah so like and that's what i'm talking about with like the geography doesn't feel quite as defined there yeah i was i was legit confused um same yeah same because then he's he's talking like oh yeah and it's been scorched by dragon fire and everything so i'm like okay so yeah we must like when did that happen like do we collect retribution off screen or am i just forgetting there's a pretty memorable dragon sequence so yeah yeah I'm like when did that line drop because I totally miss that line I was like this is way more populated it looked just as dreary

Starting point is 00:23:11 the last time we spent good time here but also it yeah it was certainly more populated yeah it's there there's moments like that where I am getting confused but the main meat and potatoes of the journey is really rewarding and rich every time yeah and this is all stuff that yeah you take these things and you go okay I'll go

Starting point is 00:23:28 do that homework and go you know refresh my memory a little bit like those aren't like big emotional scenes like in terms of the emotional scenes and the ones that really are the life or death steak scenes or something to that regard like more of those most of this is most of this is is really attainable and easy to follow yeah those other stuff like that where I'm like wait a minute well yeah it's it's like the the enduring context because it's like the reason we're there this episode is clear enough it's like oh yeah heron hall is the key to if you want to get the riverlands on your side that's the most centralized place to unite and rule them all and wield that power so like we need

Starting point is 00:24:06 you know some roots and hair and all like that part makes sense yeah it's just the the rest of the prior context that yeah sometimes gets muddied well you guys let us know and we'll see you next week yeah for more names and places

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The Reel Rejects - HOUSE OF THE DRAGON 2x3 Breakdown & Review!!!

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