The Reel Rejects - HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON 3: THE HIDDEN WORLD (2019) IS A PERFECT SENDOFF! MOVIE REVIEW!

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Starting point is 00:00:23 this video more on them in just a bit okay oh well good all right i think we're ready to get into a hidden world how to train some dragons again for the third time john are you ready i'm ready let's get some ranch let's rock all right oh my goodness gracious you guys listen to this on apple or spotify make sure

Starting point is 00:00:54 you give us five stars. Also, I want to thank you guys over on Prepper for Canal on these highlights for people over on YouTube. I don't know if you're seeing any of this footage right now. There are some great little interstitial Viking bits to highlight each department. That is fun. I do love when they adorn the credits with, you know, flourishes like this. It's very fun and delightful. This is very cute.

Starting point is 00:01:21 It gives you insight to watch the... Or our incentive to watch the credits because there's something happening. But also just to acknowledge the people. But, you know, for the kids out there. Gives us slow visuals to aid our flower giving. For the wee ones. Yeah. Heck yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:39 Well, we do have some patron questions here. Patron questions. We hop into the review. First, we got one from. Let's see, let's see. Let's start with Hades with a great. great, like, ancient Greek bust for your profile pick here. How do you feel?

Starting point is 00:01:59 And thank you for stoking the fires of conversation. How do you feel about the light fury's design compared to toothless? And what are your thoughts on the light fury? I know some people really hated her. I had no idea about that. That's crazy. Why? She was delightful. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:14 I can only imagine, I guess I could imagine people not liking her just because she, you know, is the cause for us having to accept that we're going to have to move on. you know and that toothless and hiccup aren't going to live together happily ever after forever but at the same time like i thought that dynamic was lovely and for toothless to have like because toothless is you know the the supposed last of the night furies uh i thought it was really lovely to kind of reward this journey with the one other last you know his equal opposite his counterpart his companion like i thought that was beautiful i thought the same yeah i thought she looked really cool. I like that it

Starting point is 00:02:54 accentuated the I guess the feminine qualities of what the dragon counterpart would look like you know she doesn't have like the sharp wings or the the same scale type as toothless

Starting point is 00:03:10 does she has like a nice smooth ridge on her back and her eye color is blue instead of green like yeah I thought she looked delightful and I like the way that they they're looks kind of counterbalance each other as very much a ging and yang thing going on there

Starting point is 00:03:26 yeah absolutely so I appreciate it I don't know why I should be getting hate but yeah I thought that was lovely and I thought their little draglets were lovely and they're adorable they're so cute and like you know the the story mechanism of like oh you know this is grimal you know he's got all these dragons trapped and he's got

Starting point is 00:03:44 this one you know light fury so to speak and like at first you're like oh no it's a trap you know she's been brainwashed or something something but really like once they're let out into the world and especially in those early scenes where they're discovering each other it feels like they are just kind of allowed to be free of all the human stuff and able to interact just as nature intended yeah um and yeah the back and forth and like tooth was getting all flustered and having to you know figure out how to nail the mating dance and stuff like that like oh super sweet like that scene was adorable because

Starting point is 00:04:18 just hiccup teaching him how to try to be a dragon and teaching him how to mate and then like failing spectacularly at it that was adorable I love that scene yeah and it opened up I mean like it was great to have some you know moments a lot of that stuff between toothless and the light fury are you know wordless and they're all about body language and you know they let the animation speak which I thought was really cool but also I think thematically they give hiccup the opportunity to use the, you know, real fatherly kinds of lessons that were passed down to him from Stoic. And without having to be like super on the nose about it, like, you know, him rising to the, we were talking in the last video about like, oh, what's going to be like for

Starting point is 00:05:07 hiccup to be the leader? And in this one, he just kind of accepts and does his best to live up to that mantle. But, and that's, you know, obviously passed on from his father. But there's so much in his relationship to Toothless that is very sort of like they're their companions in a lot of ways and they have like a brotherly love. But there's also in this one, yeah, like a fatherly aspect that Hickup takes on, especially as he encourages and has to let go of Toothless so that Toothless can go find love and spread his wings, proverbially speaking. You know, I thought the introduction, I guess for me, the introduction to the Light Fury did things for the Toothless story and for the hiccups. story so i think it was well earned yeah no i couldn't agree more i think that you know they hiccup in a way had to not only as a chief but as like a father so to speak kind of let his son his father did kind of be himself and go into the next maturity level of what um

Starting point is 00:06:10 was called for him rather than just what he perceived was best for his child both you know both Stoic and Hickup, you know, he, Stoic let him, you know, leave the, with dragons and how to incorporate them into society and embrace that. And Hickup had realized that his son, his, his dragon needed to go off and start a family and be of his own independence. I think that was a beautiful parallel between those two characters. I put a special thanks to the amputee coalition. That's interesting.

Starting point is 00:06:44 Hey. Because, too, I mean, yeah, to embrace that aspect of the. character and just be like to be very upfront about that is also just kind of a nice nuance and a sophisticated thing to do i think in a family movie like this where you could easily not bring that up you know like yeah i i actually really like the way that without making it an on the nose point you know both you know toothless already has the thing with well because of hiccup he shoots his wing off and then you know due to their adventures hiccup loses a limb as well and like they just kind of embrace those developments.

Starting point is 00:07:19 And I thought that, yeah, like, especially in a world where, yeah, like some people are born without limbs, some people lose limbs. I thought this was like kind of a nice way to, again, include and incorporate, to make it inclusive without at all being like, see what we're doing, give us credit, you know?

Starting point is 00:07:38 Exactly. No, it wasn't looking for paths in the back. It was just another part of these characters and the fact that it was, I guess, normalized for lack of a better term even you know this seems like a thing that would happen in this world

Starting point is 00:07:51 of course yeah you meet gober who's like half pegs you know but yeah thank you Hades and then game night J14 game night you've been stoking a lot of these

Starting point is 00:08:03 Q&A convos so thank you sir or madam but you know you're you're a knight so I assume you know you're of the round table for how to train your dragon three now that you've seen all three movies What part of the trilogy are you most excited to see in live action if we're lucky enough to get them all adapted?

Starting point is 00:08:24 You know, funny enough, I think one of the things I am most excited to see in the live action is hopefully this relationship between Tooseless and the Life Fury, partly because I think in the live action world especially, like in the animation, it still strikes me and I still really love a tradition of something that, yeah, is allowed to speak for itself with. dialogue and so like especially i remember watching the uh to pull an odd touchstone the disney live action dumbo which is not great bob but one thing i did like about that movie is that a lot of the stuff with specifically dumbo as a character because dumbo in the movie i don't think speaks there's like that stuff is allowed to be kind of visual and vibe and it's allowed to speak in a way the rest of the movie isn't and I have more faith in the How to Train Your Dragon live

Starting point is 00:09:18 action adaptations than that Dumbo movie but I am excited to see how they personify a part of the story that will then I think be even more striking for its non-reliance on dialogue and things like that also just very excited to see my man Jerry B

Starting point is 00:09:35 put Don the Beard in live action and I will say the hidden world like if we get to see the hidden world live action i think that'll be something truly spectacular yeah yeah a couple things i'm looking forward to is hiccup reuniting with his mom and too that would be very cool yeah yeah and i'd be curious to see if they do a one-to-one adaptation or if they make jerry b's death like hit harder in the second one you know maybe i was like some last words or something before way bloodier way bloodier yeah he's saying he's gonna have just all the limbs

Starting point is 00:10:12 gone yeah head on a pike yeah just gonna take him out um but also yes you in the hidden world and that send off for you know seen the the reprisal the reversal rather not even reversal but the hand on the head one putting it in and then at the end of the trilogy letting it go I thought that was a beautiful um parallel between the first and third movie

Starting point is 00:10:36 this is a great trilogy overall like they really did a great job of wrapping get up and you know you worry with trilogy sometimes that runs the risk of like oh let's just like mirror the formula of the first one you know because we just want to capture that that feeling get that money going

Starting point is 00:10:54 but I feel like they did a really good job of progressing hiccup and toothless journey throughout the entirety of the franchise. I agree. Yeah and building off of each other in an organic way that makes sense. Yeah this is super lovely and this was I think this was a very

Starting point is 00:11:10 strong individual installment you know I feel like there any trilogy you're like oh we gotta rank them now

Starting point is 00:11:17 and I mean you know I feel like this or the first one are at the top and there are certainly arguments

Starting point is 00:11:23 it's gonna take me a minute to figure out which one I would put at the top and I thought like I really liked two

Starting point is 00:11:28 but I think two is well positioned as a middle chapter I feel like the greatest breadth of character

Starting point is 00:11:34 growth happens in the first one obviously because we're coming of age and we're discovering this world and we are breaking beyond the bounds of the known societal world that

Starting point is 00:11:46 were set up with but then the way the growth is paid off in this third installment like is really really lovely and felt like a franchise maturing and it had all the wonder still and it had all the fun but it definitely got emotional and it really did feel like even watching them you know in tight succession this time around as we're shooting these uh It still felt like we, you know, traversed this year's long story. And every installment, and for the most part, every kind of beat along the way felt pretty graceful and felt apropos to the world that they have established here. And minus the swapping out of T.J. Miller, like the consistency throughout the voice acting and the way the characters, you know, build each time. I thought was just nicely handled and the animation just continued.

Starting point is 00:12:40 It's like the first one I remember we sat down this time around and was like, damn, this is gorgeous. And the second one, gorgeous. And this third one, you know, they kept topping themselves in terms of like how beautiful the animation, how vibrant the colors, how rich the textures. Yeah. And I think my favorite thing about the third one, not only did up the stakes have a really good villain that, you know, that parallel or mirrored hiccup but i think the entire story of three mirrored the first one in a way that

Starting point is 00:13:12 didn't feel like it was trying too hard yeah it all felt organic it felt like um um synergistic or or secular in like a a satisfying way you know the first one's about him changing the world that he inhabits by embracing dragons and you know having them be incorporated into society and the third one is him changing his society again by having them leave and then relinquishing set dragons from their society and even because yeah the first one was about breaking the cycle and the third one's about relinquishing it entirely and I think that's beautiful and that's beautiful both in the first one and the third one but for for different reasons of course and then obviously the parallel at the end where in the first one he's

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Starting point is 00:16:31 um you know yeah these these flourishes and and throughout these three movies again there's so many things that are tied together really nicely but the like subtlety of the voice is just enough they're not the most subtle movies ever but they are i think wonderfully restrained in terms of like there's never too much of a need to like do something hip or to like point out see we brought this motif back or whatever we paid this thing off see um yeah it really felt just like they leave it up to you to catch these things and obviously they're good at guiding your eye and they're good at you know making it easy to drink it all in but uh yeah these these feel like again as much as especially animation gets pigeonholed as like the kids genre

Starting point is 00:17:18 these feel very much like they were allowed to just exist as pieces unto themselves that just happen to be family accessible and yeah we don't need too much gore or anything like that but we do have like at least a little bit of acknowledgement of the fact that like yeah this is a dangerous rough tangible world and you know we're doing a lot with fire and steel and we're building these structures and we're out on ships and it's a very epic world and uh yeah like there's it it has a gateway to like teach younger folks about some of the harshness of the world around you but also the things that are to be embraced or to at least be given a chance to be met on their own terms and also about just like the continuum between human life and society and the natural world and the creatures of the natural world and I like that theme. I like the way the legend is tied up with this idea that you know we are basically dragons have faded into this idea that is mostly chalked up to myth and legend because you know the human world is treacherous and as humans we cannot all get

Starting point is 00:18:29 it seems on the same page and live peacefully coexisting with each other and so the dragons are ostensibly gone in some mystic realm until such a time as we can you know see our way to creating a harmonious you know global society on the surface you know and uh that feels very akin to again the sort of charm of legend that's sort of like you know maybe this thing isn't real maybe it's just how we pass off yeah like a volcano erupting or the earth shaking or maybe it is just dragons beneath the surface waiting for us to get our shit together yeah that's that's a an interesting way to kind of play that out so it does bring his legend in our world and i'm like oh i would love if these movies are actually true that'd be freaking awesome um but yeah i think i think that was a a very beautiful way to wrap that up and just speaking to to the nature of you know people we as humans have a tendency to lash out against the things we don't understand or fear and having the at least the second two films oh god no i guess all three of them kind of be a testament of that to you know want to take dragons down or trap them

Starting point is 00:19:48 or or control them when you know we should just let them be free yeah this is this is the the the animal advocate franchise for sure animal relationship to humans and yeah there's just so much life and so much variety to the different types of dragons and how the society works

Starting point is 00:20:06 it was just all so good it's very appealing world in yeah makes you want to jump in and go for a flight and I mean these flight sequences are really sweeping you know they really make you like these are great in 3D I would imagine

Starting point is 00:20:22 because yeah like the aerial sequences in particular and again props to the whole cinematography department roger deacons as well on the consult because the light each one of these looked great but they each also looked better and better and yeah the quality of the light and the mist and the water and all that stuff is just gorgeous to look at like it really captures a natural world that like when you're first doing the zoom in on berk at the beginning when they're returning you know it's like it's busy it's it's bright but it's not like garish or too loud you know like it's busy certainly but also it fits where they are and then you get this contrast of certain areas that are just untouched by man beautiful nature you know

Starting point is 00:21:08 as rendered by these artists and like yeah this feels you know yeah they they feel like lovely moving pieces of art yeah I would have loved to spend a little bit more time in the hidden world and just explore that a little bit more yeah but what we did see was gorgeous like it definitely lived up to the name i hope that's in the ride man i hope you get to like go through one i don't know how the land at universal epic universe park whatever it's called is set up but i hope at least at one point you get to go into the hidden world and you know behold the the awe and the majesty yeah it's interesting having seen these movies now obviously has a very definitive conclusion and i know it has at least two or three like series spinoffs so i'm like it has to okay those shows

Starting point is 00:21:50 have to take place in between each movie because they're like there's no way it takes place after the films are over but um yeah they did they did a great job yeah john powell on the score killing the game definitely gonna have to download some of that music grab the vinyl uh hiccup and astrid were really great together the villain was was was really strong i like that he was anti hiccup yeah anti hiccup he was formidable he had his own tech just like a hiccup had his like the fact that he was knowledgeable about dragons and locations and tracking um like kicka boys using it for evil one you go from yeah like you know big angry chip on his shoulder guy and the second one uh to a guy who's like clearly sophisticated and is clearly like having fun is is

Starting point is 00:22:41 the one of those love of the hunt kind of guys you know which just yeah which is a type of character too that we've seen done here and again But, yeah, the combination of F. Murray Abraham's vocal performance plus just the way they concocted that character. It made him quite striking. And even though, you know, at a certain point, you're just in the heat of the battle and he ultimately just kind of loses and they drop him into the ocean and ostensibly he either drowns or he's still out there. But, you know, at this point, it makes sense to me that you wouldn't necessarily need like one big gotcha man kind of moment with him. it's like it's bigger than that and i think this movie had a nice again attenuation for that it's like he's formidable he's a driver of a lot of what's wrong here but there's a bigger thing

Starting point is 00:23:27 happening where it's like oh we need to go back to our homeland and we need to kind of it's been proven first it was you guys and then you guys came around then it was um the guy from part two whose name i'm forgetting now jaman hansu uh and now it's grimal and like people are always going to be coming so yeah it's like you have a villain but i think it's smart that it gives way to more the conflict of the overall situation. And then it makes for a really beautiful reward by the end when you get that reunion, you know, with the kids, with the next generation.

Starting point is 00:24:00 And maybe, you know, the dragon babies and the human babies can make a better world for all of us. Maybe we can get a how to train your dragon four because humans have kind of learned their ways on this side of the world until we go to the other side of the world. We see that, yeah, it's only exported from the Nordic perspective. I imagine that we had a couple of eight. Asian characters here.

Starting point is 00:24:18 And I know they have their own history with dragons in Asia. So I don't know. There are different types of dragons over there. But who knows? Yeah. All right, John, any final thoughts for you get out of here? No, just this was beautiful. And I'm grateful to all you all for coming on the journey once again with us.

Starting point is 00:24:35 And I hope that they nail it with the live action ones. I mean, like, they don't need to do it. But I do think the live action ones have maybe a better potential at succeeding than a lot of other ones do. And I think the real thing the live action ones are going to have to do, I'm confident partly because there's a similar creative team, or at least in the director's chair, you know, they're, you know, people who have shepherded this animated franchise

Starting point is 00:25:02 taking on the live action ones. That gives me some hope and inspiration. And I think it's just going to come down to the cast. Like the cast is just going to have to charm and, you know, work their way into our hearts the same way. The combination of these animated characters and the voice performances have, you know, like again j barrow shell is not necessarily like i like j barrowshall no shade to j barrow shell but he's not the guy you would point at and be like that guy is my favorite actor necessarily but i think here he is so great he's so good at leading me and like he feels like the character like born voice performer yeah yeah no it was uh at first because i knew it was him it was my head i was like okay i see this guy's face when i'm hearing this voice but as the trilogy went on and you kind of like settled into it you just forget like no that's just Hick of Huck up, yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:48 Yeah, he did great. And I look forward to seeing how the live action one captures that heart and the wonder and the magic of the world of dragons. Looking forward to see those suits. They're, they're armor in live action. That's going to be really cool. And seeing them, like, glide and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, that's going to be dope.

Starting point is 00:26:05 Yeah. Aerial sequences. Exactly. Crazy. So sick. Please shoot that in a really cool way. Drones. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:12 They're going to do drone shots. You know it. Oh, real. Tongue Cruz is going to light direct those. or something. I don't know. It's Burke. We have dragons. We have dragons now.

Starting point is 00:26:22 I got to get better Tom Cruise, but, you know, it's that intensity. It's that, like, short-burst intensity when he talks. Yeah, I felt it. I saw it. Well, all right, guys, that's something we had for us today. Thank you for joining us for the How to Change Your Dragon Trilogy. We love you. Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments below.

Starting point is 00:26:38 Any cool little tidbits or whatnot. Show us some love, and we will see you guys in the next one. Duceus. Gabriel Gabriel Gabriel for a person who is constantly won't shut up about how they don't believe in God keep bringing it up nonstop and we're like we get it Gabriel cut it out hey that's what makes you the perfect person so we can venture into um uh garth what's it called birth uh the damn land and Now to change your dragon. Oh, to Burke.

Starting point is 00:27:17 To Burke. Home of the dragons. You go to Burke. This is Burke. It would be amazing to be able to show you some dragons so you can believe in something bigger than yourself. Because let's face it, homie. You're lacking in that because you don't shut up about being an atheist.

Starting point is 00:27:32 We're not the center of the universe, my friend. But wow. Wow. If we're able to show you a hidden world full of dragons, I feel like finally light enough. That's some perspective in your life. I only get some tension off those shoulders because you are. stiff when you do not have faith it's something higher you be the ultimate dragon rider but because of that darkness of never believing in god he's clearly going to tame like some

Starting point is 00:27:56 dragon and have it be like red eyes and be he's gonna attack that's right you're gonna make the dragon mad which i totally would follow i totally be part of that cult you know why you have a dragon if you're not gonna use it to conquer that's right that's a display of power solely that's what that's for yeah what is power if not to be displayed a thousand percent yeah you got a rule with an iron fist filled with fear, much like the gods you don't believe in would. Food for thought.

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