The Reel Rejects - INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE (1994) MOVIE REVIEW!! FIRST TIME WATCHING!!

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Starting point is 00:01:32 They better bone. You know what? Better bone. Let's on that note, roll the bump. Guys, we just watched interview with the vampire.

Starting point is 00:01:48 The classic tale of love, lust, and otherwise. Leave us a rating on Apple or Spotify. Roxanne. Yeah. Lover of love,

Starting point is 00:02:00 Shipper of Ships. I am that. There honestly wasn't much of that. It's true. There was it. I mean, there was, but there wasn't.

Starting point is 00:02:08 It's like it's everywhere, but it's not also like directly the focus of almost anything. What did you think of interview with the vampire? Okay. I'm going to say something that I very rarely say on this show and you guys might, or on this channel and you guys might be upset. That movie was not for me.

Starting point is 00:02:26 Okay. I've heard so many. amazing things about this movie. I wish somebody gave me a heads up. I do not do well with some of the subject matter that was taking place here. With some of the dynamics between Kirsten Dunst and the rest of the people. Yeah, it wasn't like the point of view of this movie was that that was okay. Then I would have been like, let's get out of here.

Starting point is 00:02:47 Sure. But like, the Kirsten Dunst stuff really upset me and the stuff with the woman on stage really upset me. Yeah. So this wasn't, like, sexy fun to me. This, like, really made my tummy curl. Like, sure, yeah. It was hard to watch. And I was looking for, like, I thought, coming from underworld, twilight, like, I was looking

Starting point is 00:03:11 for something, like, fun and cool. And this, I thought, I found this movie very upsetting. Sure. I definitely expected something that was a bit more literary or something that was a bit more sort of high society in the shadows gothic uh but i guess i will say that yeah like the the tone it's interesting because like you can obviously see where so many other vampire movies have drawn from this and anne rice you know holds you know a certain place of of you know uh stature status and and the prominence in terms of just like the classic vampire literature and that makes sense

Starting point is 00:03:54 I mean, and also, like, it looked amazing. It sounded amazing. The performances were amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's one of those where I feel like it has all of the tropes and trappings of a vampire thing. And it's like, it's frilled up and it's as sensuous as, you know, you've come to expect. And yet I felt like a lot of things, especially now, certainly indulge in that. And I felt like this was a movie where, yeah, all that stuff is on display.

Starting point is 00:04:24 and you have all these characters around Brad Pitt who are about that and it's kind of about the horror of all that like you know and I thought it was interesting and I can't at all blame you for being kind of turned off or off put by it because yeah it's like that scene on the stage is totally kind of unnerving and demoralizing and you're just like oh god this poor woman is being like is being humiliated in front of these people but also is like scared for her like it's the combination of all the worst feelings in front of all these people and they don't know that it's part of a show and like the dynamics are interesting but it is also like nightmarish and terrible and it is I'm chewing on that concept because yeah like to watch it in the moment it is harsh and it is sort of like oh no like and I feel like that's kind of the point of a lot of this is they never let you really enjoy any of the lust on display. Whereas I feel like there are other things that are inspired by this that the final credit is for sympathy for the devil, it's great. Oh, shit, in memory of River Phoenix.

Starting point is 00:05:32 Was he involved somehow, or are they just tributing him? I don't know. But I feel like a lot of vampire things indulge in that stuff and then at some point come around to the idea of like, no, none of this is fun, none of this is good. You know, you're filling an empty void for all of eternity and you're, you know, maiming innocent people and violating innocent people. And I felt like this skip to the part where all that is fun, which is why, like, I still kind of appreciate aspects of it. But at the same time, I mean, it is, no, there's no two ways about the discomfort of beholding that. And all I can hope is that, like, a scene like that in front of a scene like the theater bit with the woman and anything, you know, involving, like, the early scenes with Kirsten does. I just hope that, like, the onset of all that was handled properly.

Starting point is 00:06:21 I was thinking about that, too, and it's not a good thing to be thinking about that when you're watching a movie. It's like, I think this movie was very well done. I did not enjoy it. And those two can both be true at the same time. Absolutely, yeah. I think it was really like... I think that's a good thing to be able to recognize, honestly. Yeah, like, I wasn't like, this movie isn't well done and this messaging is not okay.

Starting point is 00:06:42 It was not that at all to me. I just didn't... The story made me not look forward to the next minute of the movie, you know? when you're watching something and all of a sudden it hits you like I'm not enjoying myself at all yeah um and I guess that from what my vampire movies I guess that's something I want I want to feel like ooh bone each other like I said at the beginning like honestly and I know that people are not going to like this either I really wanted there to be like a love scene between Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt oh 100% so much sensualness between them and we did get some happened off screen somewhere

Starting point is 00:07:18 Those are some of my favorite moments When we see with the two of them together And it seems like there's like a lust situation going on there Or even with Brad Pitt and Antonio Benderas Oh yeah, when he's like right up in his face And they're like about to kiss as he's talking to him Like yeah Like they're go go for it

Starting point is 00:07:35 But we didn't ever like I feel like I got a little blue balled Love it I wanted a for an R rated vampire movie Yeah I wanted a sex scene sure I wanted a consensual vamp on vamp sexy you wanted something decadent that yeah wasn't also a horror you know yeah yeah yeah and like some of the characters I found hard to care about like we're supposed to at the end care about Claudia's new mommy sure and I was like wait I just met her 30 seconds ago yeah empathetically just in general I feel bad for her her, but also it would have been very interesting to peer into what their actual relationship was before, you know, getting right to the point. Right. And if she had come in a little bit earlier or like.

Starting point is 00:08:29 Because that was a really interesting development too. And like there's not, you empathize with the conundrum that Claudia is in most certainly of like great. Not only do I have this already cursed, you know, undead sort of essence now. But also I'm trapped as. a child and so like there are aspects of having her bring this woman in that are interesting because it's like mother big sister but this movie is also flirting with all kinds of weird gray lines of affections and so like because you have the the again this movie goes right up to the edge in terms of how they portray the relationship between lestat louis and claudia altogether and i feel like if you could infer that louis and Lestat have been intimate somewhere off screen, you could only assume similar things may apply to Claudia just because, again, they're vampires and her mind is a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And she's in her 40s, and the way that she's speaking,

Starting point is 00:09:33 it was like kind of strange. I couldn't tell if she kept my beloved, my love, but it didn't feel like, it felt like with Brad Pitt's character that Claudia had a paternal relationship, but it didn't feel that way with, with Tom Cruise's character? Because at first it's like, yeah, I mean, at first I feel like she is kind of in between them in terms of just her sensibilities, I guess, because she does have the hunger and she certainly seems to want to use her power.

Starting point is 00:10:07 But as time goes on, certainly she airs more toward Brad Pitt in terms of her affections and her, you know, feeling safe around anybody. and so yeah i could absolutely see them certainly just staying to sort of a paternal you know father-daughter kind of thing and then she does bring him a wife or like a mom for herself so it felt like i wonder if in the books those lines are grayer yeah and here they were like we got to at least make it a little more solid or at least not allude directly to anything truly you know heinous or problematic but it is yeah i'm like is there some kind of romantic connection that this woman and this girl have to like I don't know there's stuff like that that's interesting and I don't begrudged them exploring that and I do in in theory I mean I

Starting point is 00:10:55 I don't know how soon I want to like watch this again and it is a fascinating combination of things because there is like blessed there is like a camp about it certainly in some aspects and there's like a humor about it in some aspects and there are parts where you are just watching you know Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise sort of dandy it up and live you know again this life of decadence. But I feel like, yeah, so much of it is about like the twisted dark center of all of it and none of it truly like gives you the catharsis or reward or, you know, lets you slip off the, you know, sort of weight of, you know, the dark nature of everything that's going on. And so like in a sense, like a little more levity would have been. In a sense, I appreciate that because like I also

Starting point is 00:11:40 enjoy a twilight or an underworld or something that's more overtly fun and that is more overtly going to give you some rewards. However, in the vast, you know, expanse of vampire lore, I did, I do find something like this at least interesting. Again, I think everyone will have a different line in terms of how they feel this movie kind of gets by in terms of like what's appropriate to film and tell that stuff. When you talk about the appropriate to film, it's so hard as creators. And I think that I had an easier time with this before I moved.

Starting point is 00:12:14 moved here at 18, it's so hard as a creator to watch a clearly underage Kirsten Duntz have to suck on somebody's body and stare at somebody and just, it made me uncomfortable. And in that moment, she was Kirsten Dunst for me, not Claudia. And I was just like, ugh, ugh, like, yeah, it was upsetting. Honestly, this movie really, at times it really upset me. and then I would bring myself back out and could have fun for a second and then like it just kept hitting me with that

Starting point is 00:12:47 and I was like, oh, I'm really struggling to watch this. It is tricky, yeah, yeah, because you just, especially with what we know now about filmmaking and the stories you hear in hindsight from actors when they're like, yeah, I was young or whatever else. Like it does just, I guess, first and foremost, make you hope

Starting point is 00:13:04 that everything was up and up on the set. And I'm sure what, like, there's nothing that we know that wasn't. But it just makes you think about it. takes your mind there initially and it's supposed to make you uncomfortable to some extent and the idea of yeah what happens when someone is doomed to be a child forever and what can you imply about their experience yeah but yeah like you still got to get real people to shoot this stuff i know i know yeah it's just and i and i get it if people in the comments are like that's not the point of it roxy and like you you missed the point and maybe i did um just can only speak to my personal

Starting point is 00:13:38 viewing experience, which is that I struggled to watch this. Yeah. Yeah. I don't blame you. It's a I do like dark vampire movies too. It's not that I only like the underworlds and I mean, Blade, I would say, is a little bit

Starting point is 00:13:54 darker than Underworld or Twilight, but still not super dark, but I love as you know, horror horror scream queen. I love dark movies. Yeah. Adult stuff. Sure. You know?

Starting point is 00:14:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then even the part with the woman, that threw me off too, but maybe it was because I was already in that mindset. And maybe that actress was just really good. She seemed super uncomfortable. She was doing a great job. And I was like, I'm uncomfortable for you. Yeah, and to sell that illusion of like, oh, this is a person who isn't part of the show

Starting point is 00:14:28 being brought in and is being, you know, sold as part of the show. You know, I thought in a meta set, and they make that comment about like, oh, vampires pretending to be humans, pretending to be humans, pretending. to be vampires how avant-garde and I was like oh yeah like it kind of makes you paying in that moment of like this is clearly an actor hired to look like you know someone pulled in off the street who doesn't you know again who isn't part of the show what's about to happen to them and i'm sure everything was fine but at the same time at the back of your mind you're like oh it feels authentic in a way that that does make you feel icky if i watched this though i would know from if this is

Starting point is 00:15:04 the first thing i ever saw her in which probably is i would think kirsten dunce was a stall Oh, sure. She absolutely nailed this performance. And it's so hard because you've got to be able to be a convincing child and then a convincing, like, old soul and a child's body. She's going to have said avant-garde. And it came out very naturally. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:22 And all of her, just her presence, like, and the way her demeanor shifted as she's at first, you know, getting to know her power and then as she is more acquainted with it, and she's getting older, like just so many of the layers of her performance. I'm like, the chops on, I don't know how old exactly she was at the time. Let me look it up. I'm going to look up some things about this.

Starting point is 00:15:46 But yeah, certainly a performance beyond her years. And I mean, too, you know, vampirism and that stuff I feel like is supposed to kind of confront you with, again, the various lusts of experience, but also, you know, the potential deviances as well. And I feel like a lot of these, especially anything that's got a swel. of romance or eroticism to it like they're I feel like in that mixture if you want to go to twilight like twilight and that's a directly compare but like you know a twilight I think you know people dog on that for being problematic I think part of the appeal is that it is problematic is that

Starting point is 00:16:24 it is sort of a dangerous relationship in some degree because like some of ever's behavior is not like standard normal guy behavior what was our least favorite part of that series too. It was the imprinting with the baby, you know, like. Yeah, which is weird and creepy and odd. And so, again, it's not something that I think is just like, oh, you should like it because of that or it's good just because of that. But I do think it fits within that realm of discomfort. And it is like vampire things, certainly people do get very enamored with lots of, you know, fictional creature lore. But I think especially vampires and especially something like this, I feel like, you know, they're erotic and people like that aesthetic certainly and people you know like and rice novels

Starting point is 00:17:13 are huge and i know that people really gravitate towards some of that eroticism but you know again there's so much at least in this movie form that is about the curse and the horror of all of that so it is just it's curious to me it seems as if kirsten dunce is not stoked about this oh let's go she was 11 at the time woof uh and she explained how her acting coach taught her to make sexy facial expressions without being, quote, unquote, inappropriate. She described the on-screen kiss with Brad Pitt, who was 31 at the time, as weird and gross. Yep. Yep.

Starting point is 00:17:48 I'm glad they cut away from that pretty quick. Yeah, we were there for a second and then it was gone, but that second was more than enough. Yeah, that's not great. That's not great. Yes, yeah. I hated the kiss. Every time I scroll down, does ever happen to you on your phone? where you scrolls something and then it keeps going back to the top.

Starting point is 00:18:08 I worked very hard with my acting coach. You give me tools. I can't get there. Whatever website you have has those ads that will not let you read. They're covered in ads, boy. Well, who knew? Pretend your brother's looking for his toy and you know where it is and you're not going to tell him. That's like how to make sexy face, I guess.

Starting point is 00:18:29 Woof. Oh my. Her brother went to my high school. Is that true? Yeah. He looks, they look kind of similar, actually. She's maintained that she felt comfortable on set and was treated like a princess. Good, good.

Starting point is 00:18:41 That's unrelated to the controversial kiss. She said, I hated the kiss so much because Brad was like my older brother on set, and it's kind of like kissing your brother. It's weird because he's an older guy and I had to kiss him on the lips, so it was gross. Yes, agree. A few years later, she once again noted that she was so uncomfortable. Kissing Brad was so uncomfortable for me. I remember saying in interviews that I thought it was gross that Brad had cooties.

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Starting point is 00:21:00 It is a fascinating thing and a, and a. big ethical question and that's the thing that i like people say you couldn't make such and such a movie now and there are a lot of movies i don't agree quite about that on but this is a movie where i don't think you could make this the same way now like you would have to hire an actor who's like 18 and looks very young or something uh yeah because it's really not an ethical question this was nominated for two Oscars um for best art direction and best music yeah absolutely yeah the The art direction, set direction. I mean, it was unbelievable.

Starting point is 00:21:36 The music was great. I'm surprised it was nominated for HMU or costumes. Yeah. Because that was really unbelievable. Yeah, and they had a lot of quality, like, makeup effects as well as CG embellishments and things like that, fire effects, wire effects. It seems to me, like River Phoenix initially had the role of that Christian Slater played. The trivia is Christian Slater was given the role of Daniel Malloy upon the death of River Phoenix, the original choice for the role. Slater donated his $250,000 salary

Starting point is 00:22:06 to two of Phoenix's favorite charities. Oh, that's beautiful. I'm glad for that. Oh, gosh, that's another just like such a sad thing. tragic, yeah. Upon learning that Tom Cruise had been cast, Rice was livid and stated Cruz could not carry the part calling the casting so bizarre.

Starting point is 00:22:25 It's almost impossible to imagine how it's going to work. The worst crime in the name of casting since the bonfire of the vanities, Rice recused herself from the production and did not view the film until a producer sent her a VHS copy. Rice was so impressed by Cruz's performance that she wrote him a letter of apology

Starting point is 00:22:42 and recorded two-minute video endorsing the film that was included as a pre-feature in the mid-90s VHS release of Interview with the Vampire. Well done, Tom. Hey, I do have to give it to him. Like, I wish it would be fun to see Tom Cruise in more stuff like this

Starting point is 00:22:59 because like you said during the reaction like this is not a moment. mode i'm used to seeing him at all and uh i thought he yeah had a grip on the language pretty because it's it's language that's hard to sell like there's so much more about this movie that you and i are not even okay all the actors playing vampires were required to hang upside down for up to 30 minutes at a time before uh during makeup what this would force all the blood in their bodies to rush to their heads causing the blood vessels in their face to bulge the makeup artist would then trace over the swollen veins creating the eerie translucent

Starting point is 00:23:32 skinned look. Unfortunately for the actors, they would have to repeat the process several times over as the blood would quickly drain from their heads. This in part accounts for the lengthy makeup process.

Starting point is 00:23:42 Oh my God. Considering what you just heard, in an EW interview in September 2011, Brad Pitt revealed that he had a miserable experience while making this film. It formed his performance.

Starting point is 00:23:55 It's good. He recalled the discomfort of the makeup colored contacts and particularly filming in an enclosed dark indoor area. He said at one point he called his friend and producer David Gaffin and begged him for a way out, learning

Starting point is 00:24:08 that it would cost $40 million he tufted it out for the remaining months. Wow. Good on you, Bradley. Jesus Christ. I mean, certainly I'm sure it just helped him with that melancholy. Tom Cruise was placed on an elevated platform during some scenes to

Starting point is 00:24:24 reduce the height difference between his character and other vampires. Sure was. Endless stat, too, is like a, like that's a name I have heard outside of this. So I know that's like one of her major characters. So I can understand the hubbub surrounding him in particular. I don't know if there was any about Brad Pitt, but...

Starting point is 00:24:44 What do you think about this? Anne Rice met with Tom Hanks to take the part of Lestat after seeing his performance in Philadelphia. But Hanks turned down the part in order to star in Forrest Gump. I can't imagine that at all. Imagine seeing Philadelphia and being like, that's... Maybe I need to... I need to see Philadelphia. That's it.

Starting point is 00:25:04 Maybe if I see him there, I'll be like, oh, this guy's a perfect vampire. I cannot imagine Tom Hanks having to embody this world. This gets weirder and weirder, John. Let's go. Daniel Day Lewis was originally given the part of LaStat, but dropped out weeks before filming Tom Cruise eventually got the role after Johnny Depp turned it down. Wow.

Starting point is 00:25:24 Jesus Christ. Johnny Depp I could see. I mean, I can see Daniel Day Lewis killing it, but I feel like, yeah. Of course. It might be too intense for his method. The film was a subject of controversy due to inspiring real-life crime shortly after the film's theatrical release. Let's go. On November 17, 1994, a man named Daniel Sterling and his girlfriend, Lisa, Stellwagen, watched the film together.

Starting point is 00:25:48 The next day, Sterling stabs Stelwagon seven times in her chest and back and sucked the blood from her wounds. Fortunately, Stelwagon survived, and Sterling was arrested. Wow. He claimed in court that the film influenced. wins his plan and the jury convicted him of attempted first degree murder among several other charges yes it is the movie's fault the movie made him do it um tom cruise prepped for the role of lestat by watching videos of lions attacking zebras in the wild okay that's that's crazy enough the least crazy upsetting part of yeah i'm like okay i get it i get this acting exercise wow

Starting point is 00:26:27 tom cruise spent three and a half hours every day in the makeup chair let's go There's a lot more. I think that I'll just let you guys do your own research. I've heard that this is like such a loved movie that I'm not trying to rain on anybody's parade. If you love this, I hear you. Yeah. I feel like this is one of those classics you watch though where I'm like, I bet a lot of people have a lot of different opinions about this. Like as much as this is a prolific and a well-known movie title, etc.

Starting point is 00:26:55 I feel like certainly, and any book readers out there even more so probably have a wide. array of opinions and feelings about how this experience came together. I had only ever heard this movie is great. That's what I'm saying. Like, I wish that coming into it, I had heard, like, like, when I went to watch Revenge of the Nerds, somebody gave me a heads up. They were like, there's a part that doesn't age super well. And I was like, oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:27:20 Put that disclaimer on most 80s comedy. Totally. You're so right. You're so right. But what Greg said to us walking away was, it's a really fun movie. And this was not a really fun movie. For me. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:32 There's camp to it. Remember that one Tom Cruise line that really made me laugh early on? Oh, yeah. Like you walked in and said like, something like I'm ready or like whatever. That was funny. No, it, yeah, it's an odd, interesting duck and it's certainly, I feel like of its time. And yeah, there's some stuff that is like classic and sweeping and beautiful. There's some stuff that's campy.

Starting point is 00:27:53 And then there's some stuff that's uncomfortable in a way. I appreciate there are other things that are uncomfortable in ways I'm not really sure about. and there are things that are a couple uncomfortable in a couple ways. I'm like, maybe not. Let's not do that anymore. Yeah, very interesting experience. It's weird. Like, I'm having trouble saying whether I liked it or not.

Starting point is 00:28:14 I know. I feel bad because I think if it wasn't for me, I actually think you would really have liked this movie, and I think I'm bringing you down. I would still have been unsettled by the certain things I would have been unsettled. I would still have been unsettled by certain implications of, like, what's going on with Kirsten Dunst. And again, the scene with the woman in the theater was like,

Starting point is 00:28:30 Obsetting. Yeah, pointedly upsetting. On purpose. It was supposed to be upsetting. Yeah. And the thing that this didn't have as much of, again, was like the, I guess I have a touchstone from like true blood, whereas like, you know, oh, yeah, we're exploring both sides of like, oh, the decadence and the curse of being a vampire.

Starting point is 00:28:50 But like, this didn't indulge the way I'm used to seeing so many things indulge in, like, the pleasures and just letting them be pleasures. So, like, so much of it, yeah, is a little bit more harsh or a little bit dark. And I don't know. Yeah. I think this will kind of gestate and I'll reflect on it as the day goes. Yeah. Keep us posted.

Starting point is 00:29:12 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, again, tons to appreciate. I don't know exactly, yeah, what I would, like, rate it or how soon again I would, like, throw it on or if I would throw it on for fun. But I appreciate certainly, you know, at least aspects of what it is quite a bit. You know, but what do you guys think? Yeah, well, I'm so cute. I'm going to read every comment on this one. I really want to know what they think about this.

Starting point is 00:29:37 And, like, what was your favorite part or what didn't land for you? Yeah. Like, I love this kind of thing. Like, I want more of this kind of thing and stuff that feels and, you know, moves and looks, you know, like this. And so, yeah, I guess, I don't know. You love True Blood. I love the originals and vampire diaries. Like, we're, we're...

Starting point is 00:29:55 Well, it makes me curious, too, what the show is like and how the show deals with some of this stuff, you know, because I'm sure, again, they will have even more of Anne Rice's novels and even more of just this novel to draw from in that and flesh out in that. Like, I'm curious about what changed from the book there. And, too, like, I'm sure they must cover some of the, you know, age-related stuff or the stuff that involves younger people and vampirism and whatever. But I have to imagine that the show in 2024 would probably have a different sensibility about some of that stuff. But yeah, I'm glad we watched it.

Starting point is 00:30:30 I'm glad we watched it. Me, too? At least, yeah. At least we got it. You at least checked off a classic experience. And hey, that's part of the journey. I feel like we've got to be a little more welcoming of that too. Sometimes, hey, some might be a classic and maybe it's not your thing and maybe there's a good reason.

Starting point is 00:30:49 I agree. I agree. Totally. But yeah, is it your thing and why? Leave us your thoughts down below and we'll catch you. For whatever's next, I guess we're the vampire twins. So for something... Ron Joxy in the house.

Starting point is 00:31:01 Something vampiry. Drippy moist. Yeah. I'm back.

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