INVINCIBLE 3x01 & 3x02 Breakdown & Review
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01:46collection erin you ready i'm so ready let's do thisyes so heysnapping just now yeah all right i like it we'll snap together that was a poet thingthey're trying to be a poet for a second i think poetry's overridden i just speak directly to mesomething so freaking abstract what's your deal oh wow wow well ladies and gentlemenwe know there's three episodes out but damn i think the first two are worth talking aboutbefore having to be overshadowed by whatever happens in the third episode because that's theway brains work nowadays we're talking about invincible invincible season two episode no three episode
02:45one and two erin erin my man oh my man how we feeling so far about the season how you feelingI'm feeling greatI think episode one wasvery much, it was stillreally strong in establishing where we arethe season at the beginning, but season tworeally kind of set the stage for thematicallywhere we're going.
03:10Episode two, season three, really set the stage.We're going in the season, talking aboutforgiveness, emotional complexities,motivations, and I'm here for it.And we really were bothvery captivated by this episode.And it's interesting thatthis is an episode where it really
03:28not hammers home butholds the idea of just because you gobigger doesn't mean better because this episodealone isn't the largest stakes we've seen in Invinciblebut emotionallythey were the biggest stakes we've seenin some time because we get to see all of the emotionalcomplexities of where everybody stands
03:48and I think that having it done this earlyis already an improvement over season twobecause I felt like season two kind of left some people'semotionalarcs are just like having thembe included in the story. I left themin the back burner a little bit and it seems like this season'sa lot more inclusive even though obviously
04:06Mark is the lead but seeingCecil's perspective in a broaderway reallywas really captivating, really interestingthis idea oflike we can be the good guys or we can bethe guys who save the world and justthe emotional clash between
04:22Invincible's point of view knowingthat he is this guy that holdsthis standard for what he perceives to be good versus Cecil and his experience.I just thought it was really interesting.Yeah, man, just watching Cecil take these measures and wanting to be somebody that believesin reform, an invincible kind of not, just because he's so young and so headstrong,watching them.And then the Guardian's kind of rippling off of that as well.
04:52It all makes sense.I believe everybody's motivation.nothing feels like contrived or like they just wrote this in all these people feel likebelievable in where they're at right now and i'm also curious to see what happens with markand oliver because he's now this brother slash mentor figure for his brother that his dad wasand he's now in the cusp of trying to not be like his dad but also having to be in this positionwhere he is like his dad in the sense that he's mentoring him i think there's a lot more room toexplore that emotional complexity of that dynamic going forward but i like what we've established so far
05:29i agree with every single statement you have made in that entire thing you saidi want you to be heard erin i want you to feel seen right now i see you i see you brother ernot that not with the a not with the ain this black historythank youknow the differenceyeah I thought it was anotherI thought it was fantastic
06:05absolutely fantasticthe the first episode was finethere's something about dock seismicthat just doesn't quite do it for meI don't know what it is like he's justhe seems like a very run of the mill kind of villainwhere everything else seems like to be elevating the textfrom what we're accustomed to from superhero media.
06:22Yeah, I like theI like the concept of this scientistwith, uh,who hates the waythe system is run in society,but it just feels like so one noteand underdeveloped.But he keeps fucking like coming back, right?
06:45But at least I like how there was more weight,used around i thought this was the best usage of him so far undoubtedly yeah it's just they use him a lothe's used i'm not a lot but he's used once every season for a very important purpose it would seemand it did dawn on me like yeah i'm not i'm just not a big fan of doc seismic as a characterbut in terms of plot and where it landed them i thought was really good because itbecame the big propelling catalyst for what is ultimately the trajectory of the seasonwhen talking about forgiveness reform like the conversation of forgiveness is such a fascinating topic rightbecause you know it's like there's self-forgiveness of individual having to forgive themselves so they
07:30can believe they can change um or be okay with their actions even if it doesn't lead to changeand then the other side is the individuals who have to forgive upon right like toparticularly like any celebrity out there in the world who's done something wrong and beencanceled my feelings about me forgiving them are going to be probably very different than a lotof other people forgiving them right because everyone's got their own freaking opinions now we'redealing on a very intimate personal level like this i loved how complex it was because likewith cecil it would appear that he is he's arguing with mark calling him a hypocrite and beingbiased and i'm like well you aren't too actually like you both are you both are that's that's what
08:17happens like biases form in this conversation of like who are we willing to give a second opportunity towho are we willing to give a second chance to and clearly mark's guard does tend to go went down as wesaw in second season when he was around his dad as much he was like being aggressive and shit he wasdressed in a situation where he did ultimately want to help him out um and with it comes to likedarkwing and uh these reanimators like a bigproblem too is the introduction when you when you just have them show up no conversation like as cecil saysno democracy like no one really gets an opinion about this matter it is just like you eitherroll with cecil's way of control or no and to not have consideration at all towards the way the
09:11individuals might feel over something that is a very sensitive subject and then to put the plant inI'm like, oh, dude, you don't cross the big line here.It's like, you understand it, right?Like, there's a party that kind of gets it.Like, of course, yeah, you have to deal with Omneman.Like, I understood C's, like how Cecil was just straightforward.Like, yeah, of course I would do it.And like, of course, Cecil would do it.
09:32And of course, Mark would feel completely betrayed by it and would never trust or want to work with him ever again.Because he literally had a device in there that could have killed him at any moment.It's just been there for a long time.And it's because he prayed on Mark's willingness to cooperate and be vulnerable in certain situations.So it's ugly business, but you understand where both characters are coming from on it on a subject that is very sensitive subject.And as you can see, it's like so complex amongst the guardians themselves.And it's the topic that I imagine is going to be more unpacked as the season progresses.But it's like themes and all that are fantastic and wonderful and you need that.
10:13But it's like if it's not also right, it's got to be, it's got to have the one too.on both sides right if you could have good plot without good themes kind of empty and you could havegood themes without good plot it's kind of it doesn't really have the fulfilling candy and this setthought was like really compelling it was tense of shit you know and they were like fighting and he likeputs his hand like it's much noticing the cover finally like oh that's the cover we're marklike the reanimators or random mark as the is like holding cecil was like that moment happened like thiswas the cover when we clicked on it but that moment happens like holy shit what are gonna do mark youknow you're gonna kill this guy yeah it makes sense
10:46yeah yeah it's beautiful manit's beautiful writing and like seeing cecil'sbackground i thought was really like the word tochoose where to put it and seeing thathe does make mistakes along the way and thenmaybe giving proper reformationto these other guys is a wayhim reforming for letting omneman be a part
11:03of the game for a long time you knowyeah no i think it wasit's very well done also i like the fact that theysaved cecil's originfor this specific momentbecause this is what's most relevantin our the point of our story you knowseeing him in this place of going from mistrust to second chances but controlled second chances
11:25because he's someone himself who went through this thing.And it's interesting because they both kind of have that similar thing of wanting to believein a second chance, Mark from his experience with Engstrom Levian and him with his experiencegoing to prison, but they just have different ways of going about that.And we just, we get to see them at this place.not something that it's not the greatest like life-changing stakes we've seen but it's the alteringof perspectives the altering of of ideologies that's going to put us going forththroughout the rest of the season and it's interesting we're already at this point it's so
12:02interesting already because we've spent time with these characters and I imagine we're not even tolike the main threat of the main crux of what the plot is because we see some sort of one we haveto deal with the fact that apparently we have time travelers or dimension hoppers from what itseems like from the guys who stole the Declaration of Independence, but also, we have this titlecredit scene that alters and shifts like something that's reminiscent to Spider-Verse, butwe haven't even dealt with that yet. And I imagine seeing, that's maybe it's an excellentyou're right, yeah, because it's all been internal conflict amongst people.Exactly. It's bread and butter, man, character. Give me that all day. I'm all about that.
12:39But plot is great, but like this foundational stuff laying the ground from where we're going to be,that's the stuff that that really gets us.And I imagine this point of divisionis going to have us in a weak positionfor whatever larger threat is going to be on the horizon,whether that be the Wilhelm Empire or, you know,the Thanos or what, you know,because we see the previously on,
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14:59of angstrom levy in the second season of how he's like introduces a big thing and he's kindnot really there and he just shows up and gets killed and it's like plot of the multiverse butI really when I was watch when I rewatch it I was like oh I get it more now thatthat like you needed someone like invincible is a good guy like you need a good he's a really good guyso you need someone to a villain to have such a great a grand experience of hatred to justifya grandiose hatred towards invincible to push invincible to the point where invincible would kill theguy you know that has to be that serious of a threat and it has to be imbued in an emotional thing you knownot just some like random villain he kills so the purpose of that i thought was great and like
15:47the argument of destiny of like hey everywhere in the world in the universe you're a bad guy you knowum invincible and then they're open up this conversation and they're carrying that they're stillhaving that carry over thematically of when is a good time to kill is there a dude i like i lovethat conversation about that when it comes to particular to superheroes because like you knowand I don't know what all the otherjustices are like, but the American justice systemyou know, we have like execution.There are criminals who we execute
16:19andthere's like wars and suchso when is a goodtime to kill? When is it right fora superhero to kill? Like there's this no killrule, but is it necessary?It's justified. Yeah, when isit justified? And I think
16:35that's a really interesting conversation to bring up.And I like how that's something Mark isstruggling with like maybe becausewe kill that doesn't mean we're bad people you know because there's so much emphasis on um invinciblehaving killed and he doesn't want to be a bad guy because he he immediately correlates the two asif you killed you are bad and that doesn't that's his thing like he might not see that all the timewith other people but he's having that hard time with him he's having that prove himself to be a good guyand i think that's why so that's why all the emphasis is on when it comes to dark wing when it comes
17:07to these reanimator charactersthat he keeps going back to they murdered they murderedSinclair murdered and I think it's really a fight against himselfthat he's having yeah yeah because he's having this thishypocritical thing about like I've done these done these people have done such badthings they don't deserve redemption while also dealing with the fact thathe did something that reminded him of his dad and we're continuing to make thoseparallels between Omni Man and Mark because the way he was tearing down the
17:36reanimators in the globe in the guardians headquarters it looks like almost shot for shot like whenit showed the aftermath of when omni man killed the guardians originally and they purposely made thatthat parallel to show the hypocrisy of mark of holding this this higher standard while also beingthe one who perpetrates that at the same time which is which is great and i hope to continue tosee the evolution of what mark per what is justice in the eyes of superheroes in the eyes of invinciblebecause I imagine he perceives what he did to Anxham Levy as, you know, as justice, even though he, even though he does have conflicting feelings about it.And he even said it so, it was like, oh, but that was different.Like, that's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:18I was like, man.And I like, you're walking on your own hypocrisy.I love that flip because in the last episode, you know, a Cecil is telling him like, no, you did the right thing.And he's like, you weren't there, Cecil.And now that conversation about that is flip between the characters, you know.uh the ability to challenge yeah this is really good shit man i really i really like this a loti think comparatively to where we were in the first couple episodes of the last seasoni think to now i think like these first two i mean there's i love the last season a lot
18:49stayed strong consistent yeah i thought it was really great um but i'm i'm like ooh thisit's just like the fact that there it's about inner character dynamics and and and the uhbattles betweenum more morality and what is that line like i love it i think i think it's just like the subjectmatter is so interesting to me yeah yeah no i think invincible's greatest strength is its abilityto have interesting stories and plot with honest emotional um character progressionsuh and and because it feels realistic nothing feels contrived or like oh they had to writethis character this way to progress the plot everything feels organic yeah that's cool shit man
19:31I loved it.Aaron loved it.We all loved it.I guess our only little quam is like,there's not big doc seismic fits.It was okay.He serves the plot and I imagine in the next seasonthey're going to do something else to progress him as well,
19:45make him bigger and batter to serve some or other larger purpose as the show goes onuntil they eventually kill him or he becomes the ultimate bad.He's like the spot.Yeah, I mean, I just hope he,I really hope he amounts to something more.Maybe we'll get his origin like Cecil.to determine whyand what would be on his side
20:02and be like no you guys don't see the visionwe have to takedown the systemwell it's likeI mean they're boththey I think what's the last thing I'll say is likethe way how we just talked about how Mark isbattling against himself
20:17and to look at the reflection himselfCecil's doing the exact same thing righttotally like they keep talking about other peopleand other people would murder and whateverbut it's like well Cecil did that tooyou know like Cecil's murder was in cold bloodum in that moment right it had been decadesit would appear decades or years are passed by not decades yeah
20:35decades when he killed when he killed when he shot those twoyeah because he was super he's like super old now he was super old thenno i mean like when he shot those two was he old then i don't rememberhe was he was young he was he was young so i don't know how much time had passedbut he just like killed them right when they just helped save his lifeyeah you know so that was like way colder than what mark did with umuh uh the reanimators no the fire freakingNo, Sterling Brown's name?
21:02Oh, Incham Levy.Yeah, yeah, yeah, Exeterlin Levy.Because they were, Ingleau was like literally trying to murder him right there, you know.He wasn't trying to like, he got revenge.That's the thing, is Cecil got revenge in that moment,revenge that he had been harboring for so long.And he had an opportunity that he interpreted as a threat,but really he just wanted revenge.
21:23And he took it.And, but then he had, he was able to reform, though.And they say one of the best ways.I just heard this recently and I find this to be very true.And this is why I'm pretty big on like encouraging people to help one another out.It's like sometimes the best, this is not always, people can take this way too literally.One of the, a strong way to help other people out with, just help out with yourself with your problem is to help people out with their problem.And sometimes it helps you solve your problem.
21:54it's like it's like the shit that we're doing with the tech stuff behind the scenesof trying to get everyone to learn how to do the tech if you help each sometimes when you'retrying to show and teach someone how to do it or help them out with it it makes you make youmake you figure it out and get better at it so you know that's just a direct thing forAaron and not a general thing for everyone in the world but yeah probably said a very specificsubject that are behind the scenes life here very specifically no one else does with theThere's no one else who's watching the channels.It's like, yeah.
22:27So just for the rejects.Yeah.But yeah, that was, that was great stuff, man.Aaron, what would you rate this out of 10?Oh, uh, two episodes.It's great, man.Two thumbs up.Two thumbs up out of 10.
22:42Hell yeah.We're going to watch episode three next.Of course.Keep a lookout for that.Thank you for being here.We'll talk with you soon.Reject Nation.Peace.
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