The Reel Rejects - IT (2017) SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF US!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:01:51 Just got done watching It Chapter 1. also thanks to prepper for helping edit down these highlights if you're on YouTube leave a like leave a comment subscribe obviously when you do ring a bell ring the bell so notified of the videos we are dropping go follow my new podcast the rage pod if you have not already I would greatly appreciate it um okay let's do it first question kev b which scene do you think delivers the most powerful combination of horror and character insight Are we, oh, just answering that?

Starting point is 00:02:24 I thought you're just up for right now. Let's answer it. You know what? I wouldn't go with a specific scene, Kev B. I would go with just any time we're getting an, I love, I kind of mentioned it during the reaction. I love that we're using Pennywise as a symbolism, as an allegory for just fear itself, right?

Starting point is 00:02:43 And I think we get an insight into that just as a visual with all these children. And they see, you know, he shapeshifts into whatever these kids. kids fear the most, and that's why he's trying to do that. He's trying to embed fear into them, and that's what gives him his strength, and he's using that against them. So I think that is the most powerful thing, and I think the beautiful thing about this film is, once these kids understand, like, working together, and, you know, because teamwork makes the dream work, of course, but once that you conquer your fear, whether

Starting point is 00:03:12 that's, you know, via through unity, but once you conquer your fear, like, it really makes it a lot easier to just do whatever it is that you feel in life, and that's when they are able to defeat Pennywise. So whether that be, you know, Eddie with his placebos or his pills and, like, feeling closed off in that sense, or just Stanley, he's just afraid of just going into dark places or scary places in general. Yeah. And that can be with, that can be with Bill.

Starting point is 00:03:42 He's afraid of accepting grief and loss and his, and the guilty feels towards his brother. And, you know, that's, that's his fear. Obviously, we know with Beverly with her dad. Yeah, that's what I was going to say is probably the most powerful combination of horror and character insight is Beverly to me because that's like just it's atrocious. And it gives a lot of insight as to why she is such a badass. I mean, she's the one that like started throwing the first rock to the bullies, right? She's the one that jumps off the cliff first. And also, you know, she's the one that kills her dad with the freaking thing.

Starting point is 00:04:19 So I'm like, hell yeah. Yeah. And also, too, I would just add, too, before we read the trivia here, I think that that bully that we hated his guts, and it was such a great moment when Mike threw him into the well, it was awesome. One of the most satisfying things I've ever seen happen to a bully on screen or on TV. I think he is a cautionary tale to what happens if you allow fear to succumb to you.

Starting point is 00:04:41 And look, granted what his dad did him, and we didn't get the full skill. We just got a little bit with the shooting. But this is what would have happened to the loser club if they would have allowed fear to overtake them. They would have turned into this kid. And I think that was a good way of symbolizing that. And even though we hate this kid, I still, and I'm glad what happened to him,

Starting point is 00:05:01 I still feel the same, like the movie did a good job of giving perspective and still in a small little way of making me feel some sympathy that I still feel terrible what his father did to him to make him become this. Yeah, totally. Kebby also gave some trivia. Bill's Guard Guard didn't need a special effects for Pennywise's creepy cross-eyed look really he can actually move each eye in a different direction on purpose it's a weird party trick he's had since childhood trying to mess with his brothers during filming the kids

Starting point is 00:05:28 actually didn't meet bill scars guard in full of penny wise makeup until they shot their first big scene with the clown the idea was to get real honest reactions thank you kev for that trivia you know me i love trivia that also you know what that kind of reminds me of another horror film that terra and aaron reacted to nineteen 79's alien film you remember when the chestburster comes out for the first time yeah they did not know what exactly was going to happen yeah and that reaction was genuine like holy shit yeah when that happened to onset that practical effect so i think that was smart not showing them pen anyways and they probably just got used to you know bill as an actor like just meeting the you know the like i said they just got used to just meeting bill

Starting point is 00:06:09 the nice guy on said like so to prepare when they did get into character and i'm sure he was kind and even when they were called cut like guys i'm sorry i'm just i'm just acting all good so I'm sure he was very kind and genuine to the kids totally totally um okay next question we'll go to Danny Rivera do you want to read the question I would love to read the question Tara and Andrew love you guys Danny we love you too thank you so much question were you expecting how brutal the movie was immediately with the kids deaths did you think it was just the right amount of dark or too wild I'll let you go first this time I think it was the right amount of dark for the story that we are taking in because we're seeing children sort of

Starting point is 00:06:53 overcome their fears and then thankfully we do get to actually hurt him in the end and like really really badly which is great because then there's motivation there not that we didn't already have motivation singularly with each of their fears but um i think getting us there immediately we kind of know what we're in for because it doesn't it doesn't it's not like oh we see that and it gets a little less. It gets more scary. So I think it was the right amount. Yeah, no, I think the movie literally, I mean, was I expecting it first again?

Starting point is 00:07:29 I have not seen this movie. So I'm sure there's going to be plenty of people in the comments. You predicted this. You predicted that. Clearly you've seen the movie. I haven't. I saw the original from 1990 that the TV movie, the four-hour movie, however long it was, whatever. I saw that in 1992, 1993.

Starting point is 00:07:42 So there was maybe one or two things. I slightly remembered. Overall, I really didn't remember much. but having said that I do remember a little bit of violence in that film but that was it I think the film did a good job

Starting point is 00:07:55 in the first six or seven minutes though setting the tone for where the how high the stakes were going to be and that nobody was safe in the film with Georgia's scene having the kids arms severed off like that and then thrust into the sewer so once we got to that moment

Starting point is 00:08:11 I was like okay now my expectations are like anything can happen in this film so I do think Tara is correct and like the film really did a good job of balancing that because I didn't feel they did way too much when it came to the violence and the gore there was just about the right amount

Starting point is 00:08:26 and then also too at the same point we got a character like Richie who we love as well the actor Finn Wolfhard as Mike in Stranger Things he did an incredible job of giving us that comic relief and I don't think like the thing with comic relief that you got to remember if you do it too much it can take away

Starting point is 00:08:42 from the seriousness of the moment but if you do just the right amount which I truly feel this film did it can alleviate a lot of the tension and suspense that we are feeling especially as the audience in the moment so i think they balanced it just right yeah it was a nice bounce j rushden question which of the kids personalities were you the most like for promotion of it people tied red balloons to sewer grates it freaked out most adults um than the kids okay i would say beverly i would be like the first one to throw like the rock or find a well up in and kill someone who was hurting my friends and or me.

Starting point is 00:09:20 I think Tara knows where I'm going with this, who I am like. I would say I'm a combination of Richie and Bill. I would say Richie because we all know I love to talk and I like to spew jokes, although most of them are not funny, but we know I'm still going to say them anyways. And I would say I'm like Bill. I don't know if I stutter, maybe every once in a while I might,

Starting point is 00:09:44 but I would say Bill in terms of like, Sometimes I'm not confident or sure of what I'm saying, but I'm going to say it anyways because I think I'm standing up for what is right. So I would say the combination of those two is probably me, although those kids are a lot more charming and more charismatic and a lot more likable than me is what I would add. All right, Olivia. Olivia, thank you so much for being a royal reject

Starting point is 00:10:08 and for asking a question. We really appreciate you so much. This is one of my favorite films of all time. So, I'm very glad to see you both react to it. The Duffer Brothers have said that a lot of the inspiration for stranger things came from it, set in the 80s with a group of kids fighting a monster. Whilst there are some very clear similarities, story-wise, not penny-wise, but story-wise? And with some of the characters, see, there's one of my bad jokes,

Starting point is 00:10:35 and with some of the characters, Beverly and Max are two of my favorites from both pieces of media, and I see a lot of the same traits in both of them. what are the key differences between the two in your opinion that set each of them apart and make them very enjoyable in their own way what are some of the similar what are some of the other similarities you can see do you want me to i mean you could go yeah i would say similar nope i go with this mike i would say similarities they both got this free spirit they've both got both got this rebellious side to them they've both got a dramatic family thing that's going on and nothing stands in the their way. They're not afraid to be direct and stand up for what they feel is right. They both have been floated up in and been in a trance. I would say that is a very similar thing. That's more of a visual rather than a personality trait. But I would say like just starting off, those are definitely the thing. And just, they have this spunk about them that you just, you resonate and vibrant with that you know that if they are your friends, they're going to walk through fire.

Starting point is 00:11:40 they're going to walk over water and defend you. And I would say that is the similar trait. Hard to right now think on the spot what are some of the differences. But I would say they both have this quiet intensity to them as well. I would say is a very big similarity trait. So they're very similar. I would say they're more similar than they are different. And I think both characters are fantastically written.

Starting point is 00:12:03 And they're very three dimensional. Yeah. So I think the differences between like this movie, Stranger thing. I think this movie is a lot darker. We're really like getting deep with the audience, making them feel a lot more uncomfortable than you would in Stranger Things. Stranger Things goes for it. It's a scary monster. It does go after your fears. It's there is a little bit of dark. It just doesn't go as deep and as dark. It floats above. It makes it, especially when it sets off, it gives you that fun 80s vibe at first instead of we get a little bit of that here. we get some fresh air of like, oh, we're at school, thank God, I don't think Pennywise is going

Starting point is 00:12:42 to pop up here. We get a good foundational story in this, but I think obviously in this film goes a lot deeper, and I think Stranger Things just didn't get all the way down the rungs of the ladder yet. They kind of stayed mid-tier, which I'm all about because the monsters are still scary as hell. We just didn't go as emotionally deep in this way that this film. portrays. All right, Residency. I hope that both of you enjoyed it. I was never afraid of clowns like others are.

Starting point is 00:13:15 I just find them a bit goofy. Clowns aside, what are some phobias that you guys have for me? It's heights. I get the spaghetti legs. He hates Heights, Joe. I would say thanks to Steven Spielberg in one of my all-time favorite films, I'm very scared to go in the water now that Jaws music

Starting point is 00:13:31 just hums and sings in my head. Even if I'm in a pool, I'll start think, I want to go in the ocean. I've missed. I mean, sometimes I'll still go boogie boarding and do that kind of thing. But I will just right away start thinking about one of jaws and sharks. So I have a little bit of fear of water. I did not know that. You now know that.

Starting point is 00:13:49 But I still love dolphins. I know you were a dolphin trainer. So I would say those are two of my phobias just off the top of my head. But what about you? Wow. And kryptonite. It's crazy that even when you get into a pool, you're thinking of that. Well, the music definitely comes on.

Starting point is 00:14:06 I'm not thinking. I'm worried about it. shark coming into the full. Oh, claustrophobia. Like, I can't even get an MRI because I am, it's too, it's too close. Like, I feel like I'm being buried alive and, like, I start to panic. So I would say that's, that it's not, that's not a phobia, but that is the thing that I am scared of. So, all right, John Robinson. Tara and Andrew, as a huge fan of these movies and the OG from 1990, including the book. I'm curious to know if you think there is much of a difference between the newer cast of children to the ones from 1990 in character dynamic as a side-by-side comparison. Personally, I think they are more

Starting point is 00:14:45 fleshed out in this one, but not by a greater margin as a side note. I had the pleasure of meeting the original cast of kids from the 1990 at a horror con a few years ago, and they were the nicest bunch of people I've spoken to at any convention I've been to. Well, John, thank you for being a real re-reject asking the question. Again, I know I've spoken about this at nauseam. I saw the 1990 version. was how many years ago is that 2002, 2012, 2012, we're talking 32, 33 years ago

Starting point is 00:15:12 I remember one or two scenes. I just don't remember how and again, it combines both of these movies into one. So I don't remember how well fleshed out.

Starting point is 00:15:23 I think the only kid I truly remember was I think Bill and that was played by God rest his soul Jonathan Brandeis who I remember from the film Lady Bugs

Starting point is 00:15:31 and it was a Chuck Norris film he was also in that was kind of like a karate kid rip off side something i forgot sidekicks or something anyways point being is i don't really remember so i can't make that comparison what i will say is i think the kids in this movie like the greatest strength of this film and the heartbeat of this film is the relationship between the losers club uh the way they are able to again form that unity and that is such a major theme in this film and like no matter what

Starting point is 00:15:59 whatever troubles we are going through in life like me for instance having to deal with what i'm dealing with the incredible support I have had here from this I'm not even going to call them my team members I'm going to call them my family and also you guys here at reject nation like knowing that I have people here in my corner just constantly checking I mean giving me words of affirmation knowing that they are there for me in such a moment of darkness now granted I'm not facing a shipshifting clown or something like that but the fact of depression looming or like this is like the darkest time in my life but knowing that I have such unity and friends in my corner I know I can face anything, any fear that I have to, I think is such an impactful theme and such

Starting point is 00:16:39 a thing that was executed so beautifully. And the way each kid does not feel like they are left out in this film, you really get to know each kid personality trait-wise, you get to really watch them grow throughout the film, throughout watching them face their fears, and the way they are able to really emotionally bond with each other. And I think the film just executes beautifully on that. And really, at the end, I don't go, I wish they would have spent more time with that kid. I really felt like each one got there to do. What about you?

Starting point is 00:17:07 I agree. I didn't see the 1990. I agree with everything he said. We have a lot of questions. So I'm going to move on to the next one because I can't compare for you from 1990 to this one because 2017 is the only one I saw. All right. D.K. Lounge, if you read the book, you know that the most controversial part of the kid's stuff was how after the losers first beat Pennywise, they got lost in the sewers and to regain a sense of direction and strengthen their bond.

Starting point is 00:17:34 Beverly ends up having sex with each of the boys, believe it or not. I'm not making this up. Wow. This is what happens when Stephen King is doing drugs. By this point, are you guys more scared of Pennywise or Art the Clown? Well, let me first say, I'm glad they took out that scene because watching children, you know, 11 or 12, whatever, having said, I, yeah, I wouldn't have been comfortable watching or even the thought of that. So I'm glad they cut that out. I think that was a smart move.

Starting point is 00:18:03 are you more scared of pennywise or art the clown i have not seen terrifier um terra are you more scared of art the clown or penny wise um there is a terrifier shirt up that's brand new in the store gregg made me make it so since it's you're bringing it up right now dk lounge go buy that shirt it's a wild he Greg was like you have to do it um i would say at this point with what you just told me i'm mostly scared of Stephen King's writing. Like, oh, my God. Jeez, dude.

Starting point is 00:18:36 Nope. I do not want that for Beverly. That is not how we're going to strengthen the bond. I don't want it. That's what I'm going to say for now. Glad they cut it. Yeah. All right.

Starting point is 00:18:47 Chase Lee, thank you for being a real reject and for asking a question. We appreciate it. George's death was tough to watch. Is there a child movie death that really affected you? My girl, Quiet Place, Reddair. Guys, do you really quick? Do you see what Chase Lee did here? He gave Tara and I a list of options possibly.

Starting point is 00:19:04 Appreciate you, Chase. Quiet place was... Have you seen Quiet Place? Yeah. I got to tell you, I reacted to that on Greg's Brothers channel a while I was still on that channel. I didn't see that. When that hit me really hard,

Starting point is 00:19:20 I was seeing that, just, again, just adds to the stakes and, like, you don't know what's going to come from that point on. So I would say that, this one for sure. So, yeah, I would say those, those two my girl i saw back in

Starting point is 00:19:33 1993 or 94 when it came out so i had forgotten about that with have you seen my girl uh with macaulay cogan i think where with the the the bees uh stinging image whatever was so that definitely but yeah those are those are good good list here i would i would agree with this what about you yes i do agree i'm trying to think of their like child movie death the the one image that i do have in my mind which is more recent because we've been

Starting point is 00:19:58 watching stranger things as you guys know is when they do that long pan with the camera after 11 has freaked out. And they kind of make us assume that she's killed all these kids around her. That's an insane visual. That's not a movie. But it is a lot of kids that I'm like, oh, God. That's terrible. I'll have to think on that for you, Chase Lee.

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Starting point is 00:22:15 Liquidiv.com real rejects at checkout 20% off. Thank you Liquid Ivy for being a big part of my new lifestyle. Awesome, Joe. This movie is a masterpiece. The original 90s did not terrify on me in the way others say that it did. But I remember going into this movie and the 3rd. theater's extremely terrified and excited, leaving the theater very entertained, satisfied. I couldn't wait for more. It's my go-to movie to watch every Halloween season. My question is, what would Pennywise show you of what you're terrified of the most? Nothing personal, like He's Heights as well.

Starting point is 00:22:45 You two other examples like spider snakes, clowns, claustophobia is mine. Thanks for your answers. Keep on living the dream. We appreciate you, Joe. We kind of already went through this. Again, it would be Heights and I would hear the Jaws music with the shark would be coming right at me and I would be in water so that's what I would be seeing most likely what Pennywise would shift me into that mode that's scary claustrophobia in any way shape or form I don't want

Starting point is 00:23:09 it Jessica Hauser thank you so much for being a royal reject for asking the question we appreciate you Jessica Tara and Andrew watching all the things I love lately that's why Jessica we've been doing it especially for you LFG so I have a complete phobia of clowns due to watching the OG it movie as a kid the 1990 film Adults in goofy makeup hanging out with kids just creeps me out. What is your greatest phobia? Is it realistic or unrealistic? We've kind of answered that.

Starting point is 00:23:39 Yeah, we've already answered that one. I think the shark one is very realistic. I mean, it doesn't happen often, and I know that. But if it were ever going to happen to someone, it would definitely be me. Just telling you. Michael Medina Catheria. Hey, guys. Hope you enjoyed your watch.

Starting point is 00:23:56 While I do enjoy this movie, I was sad to see so much CGI use when the original TV had so many practical effects that were terrifying. Did the CGI bother you at all again, still enjoy the movie and the performances? It was just a let down for me after being terrified at Pennywise when I was younger because of how real everything looked. Honestly, my goal, I didn't think there was a lot of CGI. There was, like, I can understand that, like, the floating kids at the end, that's some CGI.

Starting point is 00:24:20 They may have done some mix, obviously, with Pennywise and his eyes. He obviously cannot move his body that way when he came out of that box or the fridge. but honestly it didn't bother me i thought it looked very realistic i thought the transitions were realistic and i thought that the meld between the practical and the cg i was just right because it didn't take me out of it now you might have seen it actually on the big screen maybe you noticed more things um we're watching on a pretty decent tv here though but um i would say that i'm not on your side with it but still still love you for sending it in yeah michael you have a valid point, I think, and I think also, too,

Starting point is 00:25:03 excuse me, your love of the 1990 version where that film, excuse me, so sorry about that, your love of the 1990 film where that film really relied mostly on CGI, on practical rather, it wasn't, again, been so long, but I can imagine there's hardly any CGI, if any, at all in that film, so I can totally understand where you're coming from. Look, if there's a lot of CGI in a film, and it's distracting me and it's taking me out of the,

Starting point is 00:25:29 illusion. I will, I'll be the first one to call it out. And personally in this film, I think there's definitely CGI in the film. I'm not going to debate or argue that. I will say what this film does a good job in my mind, it blends the two together. And when you can blend practical and CGI, that's when you sell the illusion to me and I'm not distracted or taken out of the moment when it's happening. And I thought this film really did a good job of selling all the creepy visuals and really making me feel like I'm there at the same point, rather than going, this CGI is really

Starting point is 00:26:01 like making me feel I'm watching a movie and I'm not in there with these characters. So I thought it was fine personally, but I feel you, Michael. Jaden Rhodes, thank you, Jaden for being a royal regic for asking the question. We appreciate you. Bill Scarsguard

Starting point is 00:26:17 is amazing, as Pennywise agreed. I'm curious if you all have seen the 90s version and if you all prefer Tim Curry's version of the character. Well, I have not mentioned, if I've seen the 90s for some, let me mention it again. So, I will tell you, when it comes to Tim Curry, I do remember him being, even though I don't remember the film a ton, I remember he gave an iconic performance. Tim Curry is freaking the man, you know, he was in Home Alone 2 and many other cool films,

Starting point is 00:26:45 Rocky Horror Picture Show and all that, but I will say, like, I remember him giving an iconic performance. I will tell you this, after we watch a chapter 2, and I, like I said, I owned the 1990 version on DVD, I am going to rewatch that because this is definitely getting me in the mode, especially now we're in spooky season two. I'm going to rewatch it. But I will just say like hard to make a comparison because I can't remember that. But I will say for Bill Scarsgaard, he brought this unnerving charm to him while also being grotesque. And I love the physicality he brought to the role as well. And it's one of my favorite villain performances for an antagonist in a horror film, I would say. Like, uh,

Starting point is 00:27:25 the personality traits that he brought and all the expressive emoting he did. I thought he was extremely creepy in this film. So hard to again make the comparison. But again, I do remember Tim Curry being iconic in the original. So I can't wait to rewatch it and share what I thought. Yeah, I've never seen the 90s one, as I said, but I'm sure Tim Curry was great.

Starting point is 00:27:45 But Bill's Gargard really got me with a voice. Like when he first freaking pops up and he's like, what are you doing, Chargie? Or whatever his voice is. I'm like, what is it voice? And then he goes like, blah, you'll float. You're like, what is going on? The range of the voice from like the high to the low within two sentences is wild.

Starting point is 00:28:06 Yeah. And that's super creepy. Also, the fact that you even heard me earlier in the movie where I was like, oh, it's a mix of practical and probably CGI in regards to his makeup because of his eye. And now I learned he can do that and he did that. That's insane. Wild. that has got me where I'm like

Starting point is 00:28:27 that part is amazing to me because I'm like it looks so terrifyingly creepy and you make a great point just the last thing I want to say you make a great point about Bill Scarsgaard where he's able to change his voice

Starting point is 00:28:39 so quickly like that where he can be very welcoming where he's like oh George what a nice boat and then very quickly he can go yo flow too it's like that's very difficult

Starting point is 00:28:48 to do as an actor to immediately change like that in your emotion your expression and also your delivery in your line So it's very impressive to watch. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:28:57 I'm going to shout out KB 2020 that just said literally yesterday. I was looking to see if anyone reacted to it yet. And well, here we are. We did it. All right. I'm going to read Leon O3, the creature, it. True form is described as an endless hairy creature made of orange light, which a human mind can't comprehend without turning insane.

Starting point is 00:29:15 This is true form is only shown to those who stare at his deadlights. When the kids fight it in the sewers, the creature chooses not to shape shift. unmass itself to them. But their mind simplifies the creature's true form as macabre and hellish. A giant black spider with a venomous sting described looking as something from an insane nightmare

Starting point is 00:29:36 as a closest interpretation, which we would come up as humans true to its form. Bill almost loses its mind and almost sees his true form. But he's saved when the creature gets wounded in real life by the rest of the group in a sort of spiritual ritual called the ritual of Chud, where they emotionally fight it through their minds rather than physically.

Starting point is 00:29:56 Do you guys think having Pennywise as the final form is better? And by the way, I think maybe in the 1990 version, that's what they did because in my mind, I'm thinking, was he a spider? I can't remember in the 1990. And then you were, as Tara was reading, and then she said spider, so my mind was already thinking,

Starting point is 00:30:12 so maybe that's what happened. I personally like that Pennywise still stayed as Pennywise because, again, Bill Scarsguard is so damn good in this. not that the other way wouldn't have been bad, because again, he's shape-shifting into whatever fear, and that's whatever fear that you are encompassing in your life. So

Starting point is 00:30:31 I don't think it would have been a bad thing, but I love Bill Scarsgaard, so I was totally cool with it. Yeah. Okay. I think Tara's in agreement. I am in agreement. Sorry, I'm just sort of reading through this to find the question, but I think

Starting point is 00:30:49 that if they were just sort of of like going around doing like the ritual of chud or whatever i i think we would have missed the actual gratification that you get from killing and hurting penny wise because he has i mean it's just like oh you want it to happen just like you want that bully to fall down the well and die because he was such a prick um just like you really want beverly to like please kill your dad like he's like and i know that sounds like an insane phrase but like please kill him like literally end it um so i i think having penny wise as the final form is the better choice and it's a good visual to keep in in our brains too especially with him falling down that well

Starting point is 00:31:38 it's it's a good visual especially if you want to you know carry on with the franchise you want to end with that yeah for sure and also i would say too the bully be that mic threw down the well that was a good foreshadowing for what would happen to pennywise a little bit later on the film yeah totally um so let me get down here um i know that leon three you're saying you read the book and you're saying the controversial sewer scene was supposed to be a pivotal point where the group of friends transitioned from their childed feelings to their adult desires you're telling us they get lost in the dark um and then their bond becomes stronger after they find their way out of the sewers. It's implied

Starting point is 00:32:19 to another greater neural mystical force called the other who's stronger than it is guiding them into defeating the creature who's not supposed to be on earth to begin with. There's also another smaller first, the turtle, which is maybe why there were turtles in what's his nuts room. It's personally guiding

Starting point is 00:32:34 bills since he represents the leader of the group. Plus, the reason the town doesn't acknowledge the murders is because it is making the adults forget and control their minds, not out of negligence of the parents. The movie simplifies all of the aspects and removes any references to the other two forces to avoid any confusion that the scene is hated among public. Do you guys think that Stephen King was out of his mind during the writing of the book and the movie did a better job to resent the loser club

Starting point is 00:33:00 friendship? Definitely out of his mind. But also too, I forgot to mention some other, before I really get onto this question, I forgot a couple of the other themes that I think this film really touched upon. The loss of innocence and what we deal with when we have to face our fears and just also the things that we have to deal with. our personal life like obviously with what beverly was dealing with what uh rather what bill was having to deal with all these kids were having to deal with and i think like again because they have these friends and this unity with each other they were able to overcome that and they were still able to hold on to their innocence and i appreciate that and also too like the underbelly of the town

Starting point is 00:33:36 what really goes on in deep dark places we don't know about so i thought again the film really executed nicely on these themes do i think stephen keene was out of his mind right this part the book. I understand what he was trying to accomplish with what you are saying here. I really do get it. Again, I'm, I just don't want to, even if like we're trying to symbolize that these kids are growing up and like moving on to their adult desires, I still don't want to see 13 year olds juice in it as terror would say. I just, that's not personally what, uh, you know, I'd like, even if it's used as a metaphor, I'm good. So I'm not going to talk about was he in or out of his mind of a crazier or, or, or, or, or, or, or,

Starting point is 00:34:16 saying I'll leave that up to you guys to debate but what I will say is I think the film did as I pointed out many at nauseam during this review I think the loser club was done in such a beautiful way everyone got their you know got to shine a light we got to know these kids personality wise they really had a nice job of getting arcs throughout the film emotional arcs as well and I think they just formed such a beautiful pact and unity to defeat this this awful thing that was consuming this town as well as facing their actual fears away from Pennywise too so yeah i would say that obviously which i said earlier in knowing what the book what was in the book that my worst fear is not the clowns it's now stephen king because i'm like that's freaking wild um i do think that

Starting point is 00:35:04 in you saying that there were a lot of insane forms in the book meaning a werewolf mummy piranha shark from jaws zombie kids finally just missed and a lot more i think that that is just it's It's wild, and it's good for a horror to have all of these visuals. And I think they sort of took that and made, when we see Pennywise morph into their fears, we're still using it. We're just not using as many. The other two forces, like with the other and the turtle, I don't think we really needed it. Also, I know that that would also be included with Beverly Juice and all the boys. All of them?

Starting point is 00:35:44 What? that's wackado wild to me I don't want it like we don't need her to do that for us to bond back together and be led to the right place to take care of Pennywise like what is that we're too young for that

Starting point is 00:35:58 even if it was an adult y'all that would be weird you're putting a woman in a really weird precarious even if she wants to she's like it's a weird thought process for at least what you guys have said that in order

Starting point is 00:36:14 because they've all gone their separate ways in this sewer scene that in order for them to bond and get back on track she juices it with all of them and I'm like that's Wackadoo wild to me even if it was an adult you're putting a girl in a position that it's like the act the sexual

Starting point is 00:36:30 act is what matters less so than the actual friendship which takes over the story so we don't add that in it's in the book that's fine you guys read it obviously but I'm like, no, no, we don't, no, no. Glad they cut that.

Starting point is 00:36:49 And Tara, may I just point out one thing? One of the visions in the book was the shark from jaw, so it's like I was in the book. That's what my vision would have literally been. You never would have survived. I would have died instantly. I would have drowned in the water and then, yeah, been eaten. I would have been Alex Kittner for sure.

Starting point is 00:37:07 Yeah. He would have been gone in a half a second, let's face it. For sure. It's me. It's a horror film. I'm done. Yeah, he's done. well we appreciate you guys joining us we have loved watching this with you guys um and we appreciate

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