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Starting point is 00:00:52 Thanks to Prepper for editing down these reaction highlights. And thanks to all for being on this journey. We just watched. The Jack Reacher, 2012. You weren't far off. Shit. 2012 movie. Wow, it's been like 13 years since we watched this.

Starting point is 00:01:12 The first I don't remember. Didn't remember it. No. Then I mean, any Jack Reacher thing is going to be rich with details. So I feel like, you know, after many, after a decade or more, like, it's going to be a fresh watch. Wow. Wow. Well, to go on the journey of watching the Reacher show.

Starting point is 00:01:30 And then coming back to this film with a fresh perspective. It's good. It's a good-ass movie. Yeah. It's a good movie. It's a really good movie. I get why Andrew Gordon adores this movie. And it's, and I do think that the, it's a tight story.

Starting point is 00:01:54 It's interesting. Do, like, have a season to tell a show that are adapting, a show that is a adapting a novel every season and feeling like it needs a season to tell its tail. And this does a pretty solid job of adapting a novel into two hours. Yeah. And not really feeling like it needs a season. However, I think where it does kind of, where a season of television really does matter, because Reacher's not really like the character arc show for Jack at Reacher.

Starting point is 00:02:28 Yeah. But what he does have are experiences. He has like life experiences that you can tell affect him and you watch like changes happen subtly, sometimes a little bigger than others throughout the journey of a season, a television, right? It's not usually like a clear cut like a hundred, like a completely different guy, you know? And I do think the movie does kind of like he's a pretty big constant Jack Reacher. in this film tom cruises jack preacher he's a constant he's affected by a couple of things but it doesn't really feel like he did his mission you know and uh but it's a damn good mission you know it's like

Starting point is 00:03:12 obviously it's like comparing it to this show your show is a season of television so you're going to get a lot more context you're a lot more nuance a lot more scenes a lot more lived in experiences and for a two hour like film um there's a lot to really appreciate what would you say appreciated most about this. Golly, that's an excellent question. I think just the intricacy and the fleshing out of the central mystery. Like, I really like the way it handled perspective and it handled the dispersal of details. And, you know, I think any good crime mystery of this variety should feel like it verges on the convoluted. But then, you know, you see all these different details over time. You get to chew on them and have them re-contextextualized

Starting point is 00:03:58 to the point where you're like, yeah, I can see how, you know, the perfect crime would sound convoluted because it has to be reverse engineered. Yeah. And I love the way, like, it all came down to that quarter with the David O. Yellowow character. So small. Yeah. And it's that kind of thing where it's like, oh, of course. Who would have even thought to dump the quarters out of the meter and use them

Starting point is 00:04:19 and dust every one of them and use them as evidence? You know, even I would have overlooked that. And, yeah, like, you know, any good crime mystery needs to feed. like someone smart is making it so that the stakes can be sold and I thought this did a really nice job at that and even though like it certainly is the Tom Cruise version you know it's like I like what the Jack Reacherisms add to a Tom Cruise performance you know it's like that mixed drink cocktail of like okay it's Tom Cruise but we've dialed up the stoicism a little bit we've you know, dialed up the sort of methodical, not ruthlessness, but just, yeah, that sense of

Starting point is 00:05:02 efficiency and he's not overly delicate with people, but he's not also like a total asshole or something like that, but he can turn that on when people deserve it. And as much as we were talking about Alan Richardson really kind of disappearing, so to speak, into the character or like his presence as the character feeling just like Richard, you know, as much as this is still Tom Cruise to me like i i i really appreciate it as well just how committed he and especially i would say christopher mccory everybody because one thing the reacher show has too is like a really great casting all around all the supporting characters even small roles who only show up for a scene like the guy who she goes to visit to talk to about the victim uh his daughter like that guy

Starting point is 00:05:45 great performer or the guy who plays bar like great performer even though not in a lion's share of the movie and not like the most i mean bar important guy in the house less of an important crucial character but like all around like great casting and yeah like a great sense of tone and mood and yeah traversal between crime noir action thriller you know yeah yeah what what stood out to you the most in this view i mean the media the mediacy of it is uh yeah i agree i think i think the mystery is really smart i love the the way everything is dealing with the perspective of how first you're in the actual shooter's perspective. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:26 And then you're in the detective's perspective as he's investigating the crime. And that's really smart to mislead you that he is the bad guy. He's the traitor to cop. Clever as hell. Looks like he's on top of his game when really he's just making sure the details are right now. Yeah, yeah. And then when Jack Reacher shows up, now he's going into the perspective of it. And I was super duper impressed with when you're on this journey for the mission.

Starting point is 00:06:53 And then after the car chase scene, you have Rosamund Pike, Richard Jenkins. David, oh, how he says that's an O yellow-oh? I think it's just O yellow-O. I think an easy mnemonic device that he might have been put out is just O-Yellow-O. Oh, yellow, oh, okay. David O-Yellow-O, when after the car chase scene and hearing how everything is like, you've been watching this mystery unfold of Jack Reacher uncovering uncovering

Starting point is 00:07:22 that you're seeing how the narrative is flipping it's like all that is true what happened I just thought that was like a really smart way you see like the genius of the criminals he's up against of how they're able to thwart and to turn things into looking like a different

Starting point is 00:07:38 type of crime scene than they actually are so I thought that was really smart I really love the way the movie shot I think Christopher McCorm cordy uh his technical side really shines a lot here uh the the way he does handle um action in particular was was really impressive to me you know it's like when i think of christian ricore action of course it's like my mind's kind of flashing into the mission impossible movies but

Starting point is 00:08:05 there's this set my the i was obsessed when i was a kid with his uh actual first movie he directed the way of the gun oh and uh similar to this it's very like tense it's called way of the gun but there's like three action scenes like there's not really a lot like this movie actually the Sophical way of the guy yeah this doesn't really have like a lot of action scenes but when the action scenes are there they really do stand out and I love how like believable then and real the action actually feels like the car chasing and it dawned on me a little bit I'm like I remember people really raving about like the car chase scene in this film and I didn't recall it at all And to have so many experiences of like, especially when you intertwine it, what we're, this is 2012, from 2012 to 2025, where we've gone with CGI is like phenomenal. Yeah. And sometimes so grand it has robbed us of feeling like tangibility and practicality and action, right? And especially when you think of, when you hear a car chase scene, I think the average audience member doesn't go French connection.

Starting point is 00:09:11 I think they go like fast and furious, right? Nowadays, yeah. And what that franchise has evolved into with, it's like, how much more insane can we go to get stuff here where it never even borders on the insanity of a Fast and Furious? But he's going to follow my train of thought here. There's in the last Fast and Furious movie, I remembered in the trailer, the scene that we flipped out at was when this one stunt woman just uses this bike to go over this one little spot. but it looks so it's so real that a crane crashing through a bus or whatever him flying in space yeah like doesn't compare to something like that and and so like driving a car from one building to another building it's not the same thing i mean that's movie magic to me is is when you can tell like

Starting point is 00:10:02 damn they they had to risk life and limb to do that yeah so when you're seeing the realness of the car chase scene it makes it actually really intense and it makes it even cooler And more impressive, you know? And I, I love the, like, the noirisms are, of course, they're like, Reacher is, that's part of the DNA of a special investigator, right? But I love how it really does embody the, the noir vibe. Like, it does embody, like, a, like, a film noir vibe, especially when it comes to the interactions between Jack Reacher and Rosamann Pikes character.

Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah. That's extreme noir to me. And then, of course, like, uh, the, the tom cruise performance i think honestly like this is my this the thing i'm most excited to talk about because it's like there's categories to it right it's just like tom cruz's um portrayal then comparing tom what tom cruise does to to to what all richson does like there's a lot to unpack uh with it because his performance a hundred percent grew on me as the movie went totally you know when he shows up you're like oh damn i watch tom cruise yeah and then the more it goes the more you ease

Starting point is 00:11:13 into his take. It was the scene, I think the switch started happening when, what was it? It was the scene when he's first looking at the evidence and the bullets and they're talking about like, what's the serial number and stuff? Yeah, or the year on the quarter was the serial number on the rifle. Yeah, because as we were talking during the reaction, the thing we were pointing out is that Richson is like, while he's like a massive, his physicality and appearance draws attention. yeah um or tom cruise is like if you find him really good looking that draws attention because this

Starting point is 00:11:49 performance is not like that charismatic in this movie um yeah it's a very like it is this more stoic version and rich and has this ability to to have a a unique sense of warmth underneath this like massive exterior and where i wasn't really buying tom cruise was um in the beginning was like this like cocky know-it-all guy it was more when it was more when it was more more of an individualistic performance when he was the body language when the darkness was coming through or when the darkness would even come through in like the sardonic humor yeah um then he started like becoming like a full-fledged uh character to me but the movie and i do think it is a uh uh i feel like there's a part of me that would probably have this feeling regardless

Starting point is 00:12:36 what i'm about to say is that the movie is really going who's jack richard jack richard jack like this larger than life character and I don't feel like um he exudes that weirdly because he's tom cruise and he does in like interviews he does in life and he does a lot of movies he's fucking tom cruise um but it seemed like he was trying to they were trying to play in an up and upsell something instead of it just being that yeah and i so that's where some of that was like detracted for me yeah but in terms of like comparing to rich and tom cruise I think they were trying to go for like a slightly more

Starting point is 00:13:16 relatable version because he does feel not not relatable and I'd say relatable because like Alan Richardson is a genius like that that version of Richard yeah fucking genius

Starting point is 00:13:29 like he's not 10 steps ahead he's like a hundred steps ahead of everyone you know like he's he's a pontificate he can he's a he can see the future he can yeah he can deductive reason to the max

Starting point is 00:13:41 yeah yeah there are times where I would find like questions that Tom Cruise is asking or certain things in interaction like like a retry would already know that or reach room would have already anticipated he wouldn't suggest shooting out the lights because that would give away your position

Starting point is 00:13:56 yes exactly yeah yeah shit like that little that's the 100% of perfect example of what I'm talking about you pointed that out there so yeah but he's fun well I'm sorry I've been like totally hogging here no I would agree I mean like it's interesting because yeah like this does feel

Starting point is 00:14:12 like you split the difference between like I like this for him and Christopher McCory in a way because yeah it's like especially in a pre-Allen Richson Reacher world this is a cool opportunity to split the difference to go yeah like he has a lot of the things you associate with a Tom Cruise lead action movie

Starting point is 00:14:33 performance this guy who's gonna do some death defying crazy stunts and you know go the distance and you know really also outsmart everybody and do it with a little bit of charm And yeah, here it's like, I wasn't really thinking about like his military background heavily during the movie, but I bought it all enough and it's like it's like just the right, like this could have gone wrong, I feel like this was just the right amount to me of like, yes, there are Tom Cruiseisms and yes, like there are a couple beats here there in the scripting and in the representation of Reacher as a character that aren't quite as superhuman, but there aren't that many lapses and logic in like how. events come together for the most part

Starting point is 00:15:14 which I appreciate and yeah like it's funny this still has that it's like a John Wick kind of movie except more grounded it's like it kind of

Starting point is 00:15:24 is riding on the fact that you have an association with Tom Cruise and we're just putting a fresh coat of paint that is yeah a little bit more hard a little bit more stoic

Starting point is 00:15:32 in this version of a Tom Cruise action leading role movie he is going to kill the guy at the end when it becomes clear that like oh you know justice might not actually be served

Starting point is 00:15:42 so it's like a bit further on it's a bit further down the anti-hero side of the spectrum it's almost like you take some of the qualities of vincent and collateral and put them into a charming tom cruise leading man character instead of you know like a true you know anti not quite hero in that movie um yeah like it's interesting it's like i i bought it but it feels slightly different just a bit at odds at times to me in conflict with itself where it's like because he's at times he just comes across like a guy he does like a dude just walking around and yeah and then at times it's trying to tell you he's not just a guy yes you know so that was part of like the thing i feel most detached from is like how and why he's the guy in like the immediate moment of watching him be the guy and especially when they lend credence to it by having him do the stunts and do the fight scenes and you believe the choreography because he knows that I do it uh but yeah like where you acquired all these skills and, like, the believability of like, oh, you know, you're this ex-god tier military man. Like, I accept it because I understand that it's part of the reach or lore. And it's weird. It's like, I don't know if I would want flashbacks of him in the army or not. Because, like, part of, I don't know if I would believe it more or less if we saw more of it.

Starting point is 00:17:03 And here, it didn't detract from the movie to me, but it was one of those things where I often was feeling like he is just a guy who happens to be Tom Cruise. and whose reacher enough and does enough reachery things where I'm like, yeah, this is a Jack Reacher, sure, you know, but yeah, like his, Alan Richson in a different way, sells. You can feel the history and where he came from. Granted, we saw a lot of that in granular detail in the first season of Reacher. I feel like you kind of just get it from the first, like, episode of the Reacher show. I think the first episode, you're just like, yeah. Yeah, I totally believe that's with this guy.

Starting point is 00:17:39 Where you see Tom Cruise and you're like, you might be some kind of specialist, but I don't believe that you're just like rolling around the country. You know, like, I don't know. We joined him in a place where I'm like, you look like you're living like a chill vacay. That's the thing. That's what I wrote down was that like there doesn't seem there's any. I wrote down human wear and tear exhaustion. Like it doesn't seem that there's any of that with this guy. Like you would think after everything that's happening here, he'd be break a sweat.

Starting point is 00:18:05 He would. That's what that's what kind of bothered me about like the insanely politely polo. this look after killing Werner Hersog and the rain and something like, what the hell? Yeah. Like, there's not a bruise on this guy. Um, it's like, uh, and granted, like, that's kind of what, what happens to the Reacher show as well. But for what this movie's doing, that's where some of the, I, I feel like the movie might have served better if they actually lean more into

Starting point is 00:18:28 the poster of this movie. Like, is it the poster of the movie? Like, he's bloody or something on the, on the face. Yeah. I think it's hit with like a baseball bat against his head. Rejectation. I love part. with brands that I was already using that I get to use more now because I'm on a specific macro plan because six-pack Greg is going to be 2025 I'm bringing you guys on my journey January 25th that's when I committed to my macro plan diet started a 218 pounds and as of today of filming this I am now down to 191.2 and yes yes discipline whatever but let's be real I need convenience like a lot of you long work days workouts and I don't always have the time to cook or prep meals

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Starting point is 00:21:55 when he's having the confrontation with Herzog, there's finally, like, some bruising on his face. But even that, like, isn't it's like banged? as it could be and part of that is from the rating because I on the reacher show you can go harder with that stuff but uh but yeah there is like an at oddsness to me because like contextually it seems like this is the first like reacher mission because it's like okay he went AWOL a couple years ago and he's been living off the grid and now he's back and he's going to solve this case so like I can't quite tell even though he's built up this reputation that seems to already be in place it seemed like he was in the military not long enough ago doing the special investigator stuff that like he hasn't really fully settled into the life. of roaming the countryside being Reacher. So it's weird. Like the movie

Starting point is 00:22:38 kind of feels like it is the first time he's doing this at some points and it could be any of a number of adventures at other points. And I feel like that's a bit of a character

Starting point is 00:22:48 nuance. Again, pretty quality movie in that we're digging to this level to get to some you know, criticisms. But yeah, like especially when you

Starting point is 00:22:56 have a portrayal that feels so quintessential to compare it to. Yeah, it's like the, the circumstances, anything you have to headcan and outside of the actual text of the movie is where I start to feel like, ah, you know, this isn't quite as rechery as it could be or, or, or yeah, it's a little bit at odds with itself in terms of how it wants to portray this, again, X major demoted to captain, reprimoded to major, you know, like the way Tom Cruise carries himself like, luckily, I think just sells a lot of stuff anyway with the choices and his performance, but it doesn't exactly speak to.

Starting point is 00:23:32 that pedigree to me i mean it just he just seems so like uh he seems too polished at times to me a little too clean yeah you know and then uh even like to try to sell us on like the opening scene he's like sleep the first time you see him he's sleeping with a girl that felt that was the one thing that didn't feel so richard to me that felt more like oh it's a tom cruise guy well it's funny because the when before i remember when this came out people were bitching about his height and stuff and the build and having not read books still to this day having not seen the reacher show i didn't give a shit about that like i really didn't give a shit about it um now that we have no idea who reach are supposed to be you don't care you don't really care yeah yeah but when you do see the show at least

Starting point is 00:24:19 the show you're you're like yeah really does serve something when he is just this like beast of a man Yeah, yeah. You see the role and affect that it actually does have to, especially feel like a larger than life character, something that is just like, what are you? Like, that's what the movie's treating Tom Cruise like, where people are being like, what are you? Yeah. Yet when it comes to need to help Tara, Tara's popping in.

Starting point is 00:24:48 Yeah. So the movie's going like, what are you? What are you? But it doesn't feel like that to me. It's more like, you seem like good. an investigator, something like a guy. Yeah. This almost felt to me like instead of Reacher, it's like the

Starting point is 00:25:02 combination of like, what if the guy from a few good men was also like Maverick, you know, like had the litigative you know, acumen, the sort of yeah, detail oriented, investigative qualities of that one character and then also like some military

Starting point is 00:25:18 experience, but maybe that isn't like Army Ranger shit. I mean like, don't get me wrong. I still thought this is a great movie like it's a really like it's a great movie i would watch this again happily but the thing is is that i think um where the show is sold on the very first episode is i love this jack reacher guy yeah yeah i love this guy this character i want this guy to be my big yeah yeah i want to hang out i want to be invested i'm invested in him i never really quite

Starting point is 00:25:55 reached that level with Tom Cruise's portrayal of like this guy. I love the movie. I like the movie. Yeah. And I like Tom Cruise's commitment. Yeah, but the character itself never quite reached that height for me where I'm just in love with this.

Starting point is 00:26:15 And I feel like it's maybe why the movie franchise didn't even take off to the degree where it could have taken off when you see the phenomenon that is the show. with a relatively unknown actor you know yeah and uh and so i do think that like there is some of the hinders because like the soul as a whole like with the way it's shot with the way uh the dialogue is done like the script here is strong and no surprise christopher mccor he's an amazing screenwriter and like there's a whip snappiness to the dialogue that that feels like erin sorkini um like for an investigation type of new war like it does have that cool rhythmic style mixed with awesome menace in its direction and there's like a grimness that i i really

Starting point is 00:27:00 enjoy and and um this like emphasis like the the opening scene is so gripping that like this movie is really great to watch even when jack reacher is not on screen yeah um and don't get me wrong like as much as there's like this comparison thing and seeing where some of the hindrances might be coming in uh i think there's still plenty of scenes with tom cruise that that are fucking awesome like there's there's lines where i'm like wow he killed that like the the humor some of the humor lines are excellent the met like i like the speech on the phone you know yeah the whole bar scene i think is pretty much perfect they're like what the sandy girl coming up and then leading to the outside fight i feel like it's like a perfect like 10 minute chunk of the movie

Starting point is 00:27:43 yeah there's i think this and even when uh those like i don't know it's kind of felt like we it's weirdly charming even though i feel like it totally conflicts with the rest of the movie it was weirdly I really liked it with the bathroom thing where the dumb asses are just like hurting each other the whole time. I appreciate the details because it does give the levels of the crime organization like a charm.

Starting point is 00:28:06 Like I can see it being too much for people, but like a charming set of personalities because it's like you've got Herzog who's Herzog who's got all the gravitas and is like terrifying. And then you have Jai Courtney in one of his best on screen appearances. You know like actually carrying the weight and menace that you want that like

Starting point is 00:28:22 like right top underling guy to have then you've got the guy from true blood who's like clearly trying to make a play and trying to prove that he's proactive and then who meets an untimely end because he doesn't really fully understand the whole situation then you have the under underlings who are just like local guys who you know need the money yeah it's like that's what those guys felt like and yeah like a fun way to mix up the kind of action scenes while also giving tom cruise a platform to do some cool stunts and you know to come up with with some creative like he was bashing the one guy's head with the other guy's head and then he's got the one guy with the gun on his hand and and the way he handles the dialogue like tell you what when i when i move you shoot then like i saw like there's badass moments with him for sure um but i do think that the part of how it makes me understand like i feel like maybe i wouldn't have been able to properly identify some of this without having seen the show actually i don't know is that the show does really demonstrate the importance of his stature the important of his size because that adds to the mythos of what is this man and it's it does do something to

Starting point is 00:29:31 the to the mythos to have it be like this huge guy this huge drifter yeah yeah and whereas yeah if you're describing the legend of tom cruise reacher it's just this guy of moderate to average height rolls into town yeah because he's shirtless too you're like i mean he looks great he's in great shape He's in great shape, but once you're used to it, it is like a bit of a lull in hindsight because you're like, okay, 10 years ago also like we were in Marvel body territory by them. But it was like 10 years ago, I bet this would have been more of like, oh, damn, you worked out for this. And now it's like, oh, you got like a normal fit guy body. Yeah, yeah. You got a cardio.

Starting point is 00:30:11 Yeah, cardio. Well, clearly we know where that comes from. Yeah. I think this movie is very much a benefactor of two specific things, which is like this could have gone wrong or been. generic, but it's like it has really good filmmaking across the board in terms of the cinematography, the stunts, the casting,

Starting point is 00:30:30 the sound design is really great. You know, most of the time the music is on point, minus maybe a couple of cues here and there. So it's got all that going for it. It's got like a bunch of above average filmmaking and then it has it's like when it comes to the Tom Cruz of it all, it's like there's enough

Starting point is 00:30:46 overlap with his strengths that it works because he's so committed and there's enough of him reaching slightly outside of his comfort zone that like both of those all those things work really well so it's like you can tell that

Starting point is 00:31:01 it's like yeah having the show seeing how good the show is on its own and then also getting the peripheral approval of like a reacher fan seem to really be jazz that this is the portrayal that feels true and accurate to the source material I feel like you know all that stuff aside it's like this has enough reacher stuff

Starting point is 00:31:18 we're like coming out of the show we're like oh cool yes it's got you know the search Oh, he's using the Yankees baseball, second baseman, stuff like that. But yeah, I think that this, it's like we might not have the Richson Reacher without this because this, yeah, this does a good enough job at being a quality crime mystery thriller on its own and benefits from the fact that whether he's right for the role or not, Tom Cruise is so committed and clearly wants this to be good. And I think those two qualities kind of make this work despite a lot of ways in which it could not have. worked or or yeah falling by the wayside of just being fine or or you know just another and and to me it's like i know he's not like hanging off something where he's going to die but the stunt work from him is like you just can't take that for granted no especially in the

Starting point is 00:32:06 car chase scene damn just knowing you just seeing that it's him and a lot of these crazy shots and again to choose to do that without music um was excellent and like the twist of like the david oh oh yellow oh yellow oh yellow oh yellow oh yellow oh of david o yellowo um being the villain was good call verner hersog he's one of the it's like a walk into me where you're like it doesn't matter if you seem like you're being the meme of who people have made you out to be or you can be both in the same movie at that certain times you can be the meme like when you're giving the backstory of your life you're like oh my god it's such like a word or her dog thing yeah but then you have other moments or you're like wow you're

Starting point is 00:32:46 actually genuinely scary in this scene uh yeah so you bring something to it like as long as you are entertaining, I am okay with whatever you're doing. And I feel like he brings that. Like he's an entertaining character. Well, and it's enough, it's a quirky charm of the movie too, because I think the benefit is that Herzog doesn't do this all the time. Like walking can as much as I enjoy a walk in. And it's, it's a little bit like a, it's weird. Having him here has a dual effect to me anyway of like elevation, but also feeling like some kind of exploitation movie thing where it's just like, he just agreed to do it. So we're like, sure. Sure. And I'm like, in a way, he's your like ideal casting choice for a person who brings a ton of audience association already. If you know who he is complimented by the subject. Like I can almost imagine that being something where they read the book and went, you know who I would love to get. And they'll never say yes because they don't react and shit like this is Werner Herzog. And then for him to have done it, it feels like, oh, Werner Herzog must be actually pretty fun guy, a pretty, you know, chill dude. Despite the, you know, the meme slash

Starting point is 00:33:51 reputation for being this deep utmost poetry and gravitas and, you know, contemplation of life-minded guy. Well, the other thing to that I think this movie, and we were sort of talking about already, is that I love when a movie knows how to take, like, small, like, like characters on screen for like a couple minutes. Yeah. And bring, um, just, uh, personality to them. Like, I remember his name. Gary from the auto shop Just a few lines Just a few moments

Starting point is 00:34:24 But he stands out You know And not many movies We'll do that They'll just make it Just run of the mill Straight forward But they know how to bring

Starting point is 00:34:33 History To these to these characters In just these little touches When they are doing the investigations And you're looking at all the victims The people who were shot You're like One part of your brain is like

Starting point is 00:34:46 You're trying to play cop a little bit And like is there Are they LinkedIn someone? way but just the the fact that they didn't just make them people who were killed off with some information the fact that it's a film and they got to go a little bit more visual at times to actually cut to what they were doing that day and what their past lives are and everything um i i loved that addition to this i think it does add so much more strengths to the experience again like it surprisingly did an excellent job at adapting a novel without feeling like uh you

Starting point is 00:35:19 needed to read the novel or that you're missing out on something like it feels surprisingly tight and cohesive and not like something's missing from here outside of like perhaps some arc stuff but I kind of feel like it sounds a lot of Tom Cruise movies where they might take a character and then they're going to readjust it to like Tom Cruise requirements or types yeah um and you you see that who's like we're gonna readjust some of the writing and everything to um to play to to the Tom Cruise yeah to play to his contract what works with the demographics what works with the people respond well to tom cruise and i i do miss the old tom cruise

Starting point is 00:35:55 of the uh it was it does seem like after you know um katy homes and scientology exposure exposure it was like we got to stay on track we got a we got to we got to do it's like a little bit before all that he was like in collateral and shit and like that was like the last movie he did a robert redford movie i forget i never saw that one but it was like he was like third build in that film so i think that was like a uh like a performance performance performance yeah yeah um where they it wasn't like let's tailor this to do his strengths and uh yeah outside of like the tropic thunder cameo the it just seems like after a certain point it was like ghost protocol and moving forward mummy it's going to be this way you know like this out we're going to do top

Starting point is 00:36:35 movies they're all going to kind of hit these same beats and you start seeing like the familiarities the the saving of women you know it's interesting too because in the wane in the in an age where we are frequently touching on and discussing those sort of waning idea of the movie star. It does feel like in this phase of Tom Cruz's career and I wonder if this has something to do with some of the

Starting point is 00:36:57 fall off of Mission Impossible or sort of the weird situation they're in now and even looking at people like Dwayne Johnson looking at what's having with the fast franchise like it seems like even though he needs to be in a Safty Brothers he does no it does seem like we're getting to the point where yes

Starting point is 00:37:16 like we know you're willing to risk life and limb and do these death defying stunts and there is a time and place where I think we all crave you know that specific type of Tom Cruise or Dwayne Johnson type of movie or whatever it might be but I think also we're learning that like yeah we do want to see a bit of range and like yeah at a certain point you look at so many of these like Dwayne Johnson flicks and you're like oh these are kind of interchial a red notice is like a kind of movie now yeah and and there's you're seeing this with Brian Reynolds too you're like how long can we do this particular thing before we all go, I kind of want to see you stretch your legs again. And it's like, yeah, a collateral was so striking, or Tropic Thunder was so striking because you're not used to that anymore. And it's interesting looking at something like this, because I think to myself,

Starting point is 00:38:00 part of my issue lately with Mission Impossible has been like, I love, you know, like clearly Tom Cruise and Christopher McCory work really well together. But part of me is like, man, I would love to see some new blood come to that from a directing standpoint. I would almost prefer a universe where like Tom Cruise and Christopher

Starting point is 00:38:16 for Macquarie team up and migrate from thing to thing because it's like, oh, you got this. And I'm like, cool, there's an invigoration. There's an energy. And you feel this working for the story as well as for the Tom Cruiseable elements, whereas like the most recent Mission Impossible has sort of felt like we're playing mostly toward the Tom crucible elements. And then we're sort of trying to craft stuff around all that, as you've pointed out as well. And I feel like, you know, I would like to see something that, like,

Starting point is 00:38:46 puts a shot of invigoration into instead of just crystallizing this one persona, broadening it out and, you know, embracing your age and, you know, showing us new sides. And then occasionally also going back, it's more special than when you go back and, you know, do another actioner where you're the all-knowing hero or whatever. Like, it's interesting because, yeah, I feel like we've been through and we've been in a moment where people have rediscovered Tom Cruise largely because of Mission Impossible. And even stuff like this, people call like, damn, yeah, he's really like, fun to watch and so committed in these types of roles and he brings an undeniable level of commitment and quality but uh yeah at the same time it would be kind of neat to feel not have to

Starting point is 00:39:27 feel and think about those things because like again this great but it is jack reacher through the scope of like the tom cruise isms sure like we need to make this a tom cruise vehicle yeah and it would be kind of exciting to see it's like dwayne johnson going to an a 24 benny safty like hopefully that's throwing out the playbook and start a new dway what a dwayne johnson could be or what a tom cruise could be yeah man i mean i honestly if you said tom cruise in a staff any any actor in a prior rounds of a saffrey but i'm like oh cool like whatever they're gonna do they're gonna bring out range tom cruise in a nolan i don't think it would at the time honestly no i think tom cruise won't too much control yes he would he would he would

Starting point is 00:40:06 they would have to be so sympathetic to on what the project is so the idea of like dwayne johnson doing saffey brothers excites me because i'm like oh you must be surrendering some control But anyway, guys, what do you think about this Jack Reacher movie? How do you feel about Tom Cruise's performance in retrospect? Leave your thoughts down below. Thank you guys so much for being here. And, yeah, get a, get a shirt, never go back next. Maybe.

Starting point is 00:40:31 Maybe. I remember that being a chore. I don't remember, again, don't remember Jack about it, but I remember being a chore. I remember being a chore and I remember feeling bad for Kobe Smolder's having to carry the whole movie by herself. But sometimes, you know, when you're like, it's been a man. many years and different experiences and we're different people now maybe and uh we're not the type to be like yeah this is how i remember like there are times you're i remember liking it then you're like i don't like this and then there are times you're like i remember not liking it and you're like

Starting point is 00:40:58 i get it now yeah yeah so you never know um but we'll see we'll see how we feel this was like on a whim we had a whole completely different schedule like no fuck it let's do this this sounds fun so thank you guys so much for being here get that fisky business on your body we'll talk we soon Thank you.

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