The Reel Rejects - James Gunn DC SLATE REVEAL REACTION! DCU Gods & Monsters, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman & MORE!!

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

DCU Gods And Monsters Reveal! The first Chapter of the DC Universe with Superman: Legacy, Supergirl Girl Of Tomorrow, The Brave and the Bold, Elseworlds The Batman 2, Booster Gold, Creatures Commandos, The Flash, Blue Beetle, Waller Show, Green Lantern show, Swamp Thing, The Authority. DCU Gods And Monsters Slate Explained: Superman Legacy, Wonder Woman TV Show, Batman & Robin & More  #JamesGunn #DCStudios #DC #DCU #DCEU #Superman #Batman #WonderWoman #TheFlash #Aquaman #JusticeLeague #suicidesquad     Follow Coy Jandreau On Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@coyjandreau?lang=en  0:00 Leave A Like! 2:30 DCU Slate Reveal   8:30 First Thoughts 9:32 The Brave And The Bold 10:51 Swamp Thing 12:25 Creature Commandos 13:43 Flash Movie Resetting 14:19 Aquaman 2 14:50 Superman Legacy 15:37 Green Lantern   17:30 Comic Creators   18:41 The Authority 21:33 Wonder Woman Show (Paradise Lost Prequel) 23:34 MCU Plans Vs DCU Plans (Sort Of) 25:33 Booster Gold 27:14 Supergirl Woman Of Tomorrow 30:49 What We Really Know 31:47 Elseworlds 34:29 New Batman VS Robert Pattinson 36:34 Damien Wayne 37:45 Open Q&A --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-reel-rejects/support Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey, hey, hey. Are we live, people? Let us know that we're live. Tell us. We need you to say it in the comments. We got the DC Studios announcement, finally. Oh, yeah. We wanted to go live before Grace Randolph and John Campia went live.

That was just the main objective. Sure. Cool. Here for his stream. I'm so excited. All right. We just need confirmation from you guys that you can hear us. All right.

Perfect. The bell says we are live. I trust them. All righty. Well, thank you guys so much for being here. We're going to try to design this a little bit differently for the beginning parts of our live stream. We want to see what James Gunn had to say.

I personally did read some of the slate already I read the whole slate I've read nothing I know nothing Coy has not read knows nothing but James Gunn did put out a video so what we're going to do right now was we're going to react

to this video that James Gunn put out even though I read through the list I haven't heard what he's had to say yet John hasn't heard it and Coy hasn't heard it so have you read it do you know I've seen like disjointed snippets Okay, so I'm in the middle of you guys. Basically not much.

Mama bear, Papa bear, just right. I was busy doing all this tech stuff. Let's do this. All right. James Gunn, here we go. Hey, everybody. I'm James Gunn. I'm the co-CEO of DC Studios.

So as many of you know, DC has been disconnected in film and television. Before we went, I was like, John, there's no point in doing. Just take a minute. We're making it cinematic. One minute. Because it worked, because it worked when I tested it here, two seconds. No, there's no two seconds.

We're losing it. This is live. Grace Randolph is about to go live, and then she's going to break this all down before us. Then John Camp is going to be yelling at the screen. But she's going to go. This doesn't work. This doesn't work. This doesn't work.

What are we going to do? We have to watch this James Gunn video first, and then we've got to talk about everything. And I know nothing of this has been like Christmas Eve, but it's long. It's been very long. Oh, John. You have to make a browser. You have drastically let everyone in this chat down. I know.

I think John's doing his best. the fever. I am not. The fever for the flavor. I don't have the patience for this right now. I'm excited people to watch this back later and be like, what is happening? And why is that redhead very uncomfortable not knowing what's happened? The rest of the world knows these movies.

We're going to go through this slate in a second. We just want to hear what James Gunn has to say. Hey, everybody. I'm James Gunn. I'm the co-CEO of DC Studios. So as many of you know, DC has been disconnected in film and television for a long time. And it's one of, you know, our jobs, mine and Peters, is to come in and make sure the DCU is connected in film, television, gaming, and animation.

That the characters are consistent, played by the same actors, and it works within one story. And if something is outside of that, like Matt Reeves' Batman or Chris Phillips Joker or Teen Titans Go, that it is clearly labeled as DC Elseworld. Outside of that Elsworth. That else world?

Now, Peter and I have gotten pretty lucky in terms of the four projects that are coming out over the next year. First, we have Shazam, Fury of the Gods. Shazam has always been off kind of in his own part of the DCU. Talk about the Pfizer thing. Jack, Zach Levi. That moves directly into the Flash, a fantastic movie that I really love, that resets the entire DC universe. Then to move into Blue Beetle, fantastic film about a kid who's a marvelous part of the DCU. then into Aquaman 2,

which leads directly into our next few projects, which I'm going to tell you about Oh shit. Peter and I, along with a group of very talented writers, have started to map out an eight to 10 year plan of what DC studios will be in film, television, and gaming.

This first chapter is called gods and monsters. Now this what I'm about to tell you is a part of the first chapter. It's not the entire first chapter. The first project is Creature Commandos. The first commandos. Damn. Is an animated series?

Nice. You know all the episodes? Something we're going to do that's a little bit different at DC is we're going to have characters move into animation, out of animation. Usually having the same actor play their voice as who plays them in live action.

Oh, that's great. That's great. This is a story of Amanda Waller who played by Viola Davis. So she stays post-flash. Viola Davis is going to team up with members of Team Peacemaker, and this is a story that's been created

by Crystal Henry, who did Watchman and Jeremy Carver. who created the Doom Patrol. It is a fantastic story that's out of this world and I can't wait for people. Higher comic viewers. Next up is the big one,

the true beginning of the DCU. This is called Superman. I'm being written by me. I'm in the middle of it. I'm having a great time doing it and Superman will be released into theaters July 11th, 2025.

Okay, the next thing is a big premier HBO television series called lanterns. This is a story. story of a couple of Green Lanterns, John Stewart, and Hal Jordan. And we have a few other lanterns peppered in there, but this is really a terrestrial-based TV show, which is almost like True Detective with a couple of Green Lanterns who are space cops watching over precinct Earth. In it, they discover a terrifying mystery that ties

into our larger story of the DC. Whoa, that's a sense. The movie we call the authority, the authority. There we go. There we go. It's based on the marvelous white. Wildstorm characters. We are now bringing into the DCU and will interact with all of our primary DCU characters. The authority are a group of superheroes who think the world is broken and they want to fix it by any means necessary.

I think it's a very different look at superheroes. We're doing a television series called Paradise Lost. Paradise Lost is a story of Paradise Island, usually known as Themiscairah, which is the birthplace of Wonder Woman. It's almost like Game of Thrones with Westeros. Do you read this comic? Yeah, I love Paradise Lost. Paradise Island.

The introduction of the DCU's Batman is the brave and the bold. The story of Batman and his actual son, Damien Wayne. Oh shit, Damien Wayne is going to be as a good time. He's a little assassin who Batman tries to get in line. We're starting with a bad family. That way, that's so smart. So smart. Yes.

Oh my God. That's what I was. That's what I wanted. Booster gold. He's a fascinating guy. He's a loser from the future who uses future technology to come back to present day and become a superhero. Blue Beatles already in. I only heard about it. Superhero story of imposter syndrome on an HBO Max series.

One of my favorite comic book series from last year was Tom King's run on Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow. Such a good run. So we're going to turn that into a big science fiction epic film. Now, Superman is a guy who was sent to earth and raised by loving parents. We're a supergirl in this story. She is a character who was raised on a chunk of krypton. She watched everybody around her perish in some terrible way.

I know how much more genuine character. It's one of my favorites a lot of time. The last thing we're going to talk about a very dark horror story in the origins of the monster who is... Oh, my God. There's so much of that disgust. Give me the swat things. It will still feed into the rest of the stories.

Anyway, those are the stories that I can tell you about right now. I've loved the DC characters since I was a child. They're incredibly important to me. I knew that this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to do something very different. One of the things that's very important for me in all of these movies and TV series is that the director's vision

and the vision of the writers and all of the creators is unique and something special. storytelling is always king that's all that matters to us and I want to be true to those stories but crossovers Easter eggs and really give you something different

than you've ever seen before anyway thank you everybody I appreciate you watching I hope this is exciting for you because it's really exciting for me and I can't wait to start to dive into these stories with you guys on this grand adventure thank you so much

Tom King has been tweeting working on Hollywood stuff can't talk about it he's probably writing that Supergirl movie Like that is the one of the best Supergirl runs Tom King is one of the best people to be involved in your like your sanctum and like the choices of all these picks These are all very different than anything Marvel would do These are all leaning a lot more adult

Which I think is way better for these characters It is a broad array of supernatural to cosmic to ground level It's teams that don't need set up movies Like the authority you can just dive in And it is expansive in a way that allows your universe to feel rich and whole without having to be intercomely connected looking for Easter eggs. Like, every one of those picks is the strength of DC in that Wild Storm and

Vertigo and your Justice League. They all feel different, but it's universal in what that is such a fucking slate. Oh my God. Yeah. Like, that was better than I hoped. Yeah. That was awesome. I heard, I read the titles.

I read the titles. But my expectations were 12. And that was a 15. Sorry. I only read the title. So I was like, I have familiarity with this. And when I heard Braven. the bold, I was thinking to myself

is this, John, do you do me a favor, John? Can you pull up some, can you like grab screenshots of what James Gunn was talking about so we could sort of like hover through? I had screenshots pulled from, I read the titles, but I didn't realize James Gunn was going to provide the best photos you needed.

He's has a time with them. He's got a little more time. Yeah. So, yeah, I want Hey, everybody, I'm James Gunn. I'm the co-CEO of D.C. So as many of you know, the brave and the bold like and so I was like maybe it won't be Batman maybe it'll be like some weird James gun choice

of a bunch of like 1940s comic I don't know this half of others vigilantes coming together sometimes Raven the Bull are just associated with like Justice League from time to time and so then when I heard back okay it is a Batman start I'm like oh sweet but I wasn't expecting bat family so at all like

that's the smartest thing you can do is because that's what the fans have been lobbying for but it also separates him from every like we've had nine Batman like this is the best way to be a a different Batman. Yeah. Like you make it the bad family. You can have Nightwing and Bloodhaven.

You can have Damien Wayne's story. You can also already have like Tim Drake established as killed by Joker, which gives you an established like run on Joker's Batman relationship without doing a Matt Reeves just did because he just said that separate. It's the best. Yeah. It's amazing. John, which project are you personally most excited for? I'm going to challenge you to pull up a photo while you're also talking about.

I am always. I'll try to grab some photos myself right now, John, to help you out of here. I am always a sucker. Oh, we can just scroll this. That's brilliant. I am always a sucker for a swamp thing, and to see a swamp thing. You know, they've tried to bring it to life multiple times. They had the show that was sort of beloved by some, but crashed because it didn't get enough viewership.

I've always been looking forward to this side of the universe and this, again, jokes aside about Alan Moore. I think there's a lot you can do with this character, and it is one of those things where, I don't know, I like the monstrous side of these superhero universes. I always have like, you know, Solomon Grundier characters like that on my mind. And so seeing that we would do a Swamp Thing and how that could further expand the universe and especially the idea of Swamp Thing being a part of the universe and not just like, you know, a sequestered Elseworld entity

hopefully would be sort of a neat thing to me. Or just, I don't know, full disclosure, I don't know much. I'm not an expert on Booster Gold, but that just sounds like so fun. Dude, he is a blast. Like, the little I know about that character, that sounds like a blast. Matt might get to stay working with James Gunn because he's Chris Pratt. Really quick.

I appreciate everyone who's here right now. If you guys can leave a like, that would be very much appreciated. We are going to be taking, we are going to be going through the chat. We just want to discuss our thoughts first since this is our first time learning all this. So we just want to kind of discuss some quick stuff. Then we're going to focus on you guys in the chat and you guys will continue to dictate the rest of how this live stream will go. You know what I really liked about the creature commandos unveiling was when he's, you know, Like they were like a World War II characters and it consists of like monsters and shit.

Like they were like like a Frankenstein monster or vampires and stuff. And what was really cool that he made clear up front for the sake of continuity. Because I do like Star Wars has done it several times now where you do. Well, I don't know about several times what they do with Bogutan. But I like when you do keep it. Okay, let me rephrase this. What's interesting to me is how they're going to start it off animated. and then we're going to see that same voice actor become live action.

Yes. And to establish that up front, I don't know of that ever happening. Usually it's kind of just an exciting venture when they decide to do that or when it's in reverse, when they decide to take the live action and make them animated. I think it's really cool that they're like, our first thing is going to be Creature Commandos. I know it's out of this world, but then they're also going to be in live action. I think that's a really cool way to go about it. I also think as far as launching a slate, it's genius because you could have had that animation be done in secret for how, like, this could be so deep in development, and then you add the voice actors.

Like, this could be almost ready to go soon, because they do have a year's worth of movies on the docket. Like, those are already cooking. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Also, what a bold, by the way, Flash resets the universe, and then we've got movie to start. Like, just casually, Flashpoint is a genius way we've said from the jump, and the 38 videos where I've talked about what I would do is Flashpoint resetting. just confirmed that, but that's how they can also keep, like, Amanda Waller, that's how they can also keep some actors. And so it's really interesting that we're going to have Blue Beetle kind of be our gateway between universes in our, this year. So technically the DCU starts

this year, while James Gunn's also able to make it. So Superman is the Iron Man of the greater DC universe, which is interesting. Yeah, I thought it was really interesting that they said that, because I think where everyone's speculation with Jason Mamo was that Aquaman's done, he's going to be Lobo that's like over where everyone's mind was going but there seemed to be no indication at all that Aquaman is done for he just seemed like the exact opposite that like Aquaman 2 is actually going to be the kickstart for our universe which was so interesting because the first made a billion dollars somebody's like why would you get rid of that one like and also Jason Mamo is like very happy seemingly so I think all those celebration videos were like Aquaman

three like they said like not Lobo at all and then Superman legacy because you know a Superman legacy associate that with the Superman animated series and I was like there's no way that they would do because in that in the legacy of the animated series there was it was like Darkside had tricked Superman's mind

into thinking he was like a child of apocalypse and he was doing like evil deeds and eventually when he comes back to Earth he's like I'm not actually evil and I'm like I highly doubt it's going to be the first Superman movie but you know the photos that he's pulling

here from all star Superman Yes, one of the best Superman runs of all time. His picks, like, not to be a selfish or narcissistic here. But, oh, my God, I love every one of his picks. Tom King's Supergirl, one of the best, like, Kryptonian stories period, Superman or girl or anything, the way they're theoretically bringing in Hal Jordan and John Stewart is a great way to satiate the OG fans of Green Lantern,

but also make sure the people that like the modern cartoon or, like, the modern John Stewart. Like, Hal Jordan is a beautiful golden age character that doesn't quite work in the Green Lantern Mythos of today, John Stewart is the Green Lantern of the day. So if you've got an old cop, new cop, if you've got the lethal weapon

too old for this crap, man out of time, Hal Jordan, which is how I interpreted the true detective, was basically one cop is a little removed and one cop plugged in is how I would do it with space cops. And it also gets rid of all the copaganda of the world and you show that people have flaws. So you got Hal Jordan, maybe Mr. Glenn Powell,

and then John Stewart, I don't know, John David Washington, playing these characters in a show where you have the time to actually suss out what Green Lantern should be to give it the right budget this could be the thing from this first slate

like that's genius yeah I think I think it was interesting the way how he was pitching it though because you said the true detective thing and I understand what you're saying in terms of like the characterization but the genre in which he was talking about it

because I think you know oftentimes the common because while Hal Jordan especially can be a lot of fun with Green Lantern I guess I wasn't expecting such like a a serious investigative mystery thing. And I'm like, that's fascinating to me.

It's such a great approach and something different, but it also keeps that buddy cop element that a lot of us were sort of hoping for. But maybe perhaps not in as much of a fun thingy. I just think that using those two characters is really smart. Because I love the whole Green Lantern Corps. There's a lot of things to do.

But pairing them is a really great way to cake and eat it too because we haven't really had a good, Sorry, Ryan, you know it. A good Green Lantern movie. So, like, we need that. No, I think he stands up for that movie a lot. Oh, yeah, no, he's a big fan. He just watched it last year.

And, like, also the choice to have, if you look at this actual announcement, they mentioned just as many comic creators as tones, and they also, this isn't shot, this doesn't exist. They used comic book imagery, which is consciously or subconsciously going to finally normalize it. Anytime I put comic book imagery in a thumbnail,

video does garbage. anytime you try to plug a comic book it shuts down the entire algorithm you can literally see in some of my videos as soon as comics be discussed like there's a dip comic books are why this exists James Gunn being an actual comic book fan

means I remember like a year ago remember when the Batman came out and there was like those three those those I'm looking at the image of the art look at the art okay you remember when the Batman came out and I had plugged those three comic book arcs and then like a week later those same three were mentioned by DC and I was like

Look, they're finally acknowledging comic books. James Gunn is going to do that from the beginning so we can finally normalize the medium. I get the comic book adaptations are a billion-dollar industry, but the actual books should be a way for people to enjoy them outside of that two-hour window. And if you make this imagery a more normal thing, that's going to just help push that forward. And I'm so excited. I'm so excited to, John, talk about the authority. The authority.

I am an authority on the authority. And this sounds, no, I mean, this sounds very exciting, and one thing I've been thinking about is the further we branch out into these different comic book universes, the further we expand the galleries that the common person is going to be introduced to throughout these. You know, like it's a dice roll, and that is both a risk, but also exciting to me. Because, yeah, this is a property. This is a series of characters that I am not very familiar with, which can often be a risk, but at the same time, I think the idea of a whole new team, somebody who can significantly come in with a different. tone. This sounds like it's going to be a darker. You guys said it has to be R-rated, you know, and especially with all the, you know, sort of looming that the Justice League and all the sorted affairs of the Justice League movie had over the previous sequence, it seems cool that we would have then just a whole new team to look at who will have a whole new impact instead of ramifications on this

world. So me as a viewer, I'm like, you're going to have to make me care about a whole new league of powered people in a world where there's just tons and tons of that, but at the same time, I have faith that the team here can make that happen, and I'm excited to see what that shapes it to. Well, this team, they play by their own rules. Sure. That's why they're the authority.

Sure, and that's exciting to me. They're like a... They're not Justice League dark, but they're like a dark justice league. I see Justice League dark maybe in the next wave. The anti-hero justice thing. Justice League dark was like cook and cooking with Carol Del Toro

not long ago. And, like, if they can do this broad of a slate, then you can actually solve a lot of the problems of the, like, homogenization of a shared universe. The big issue you're going to hit in any situation. Like, it's the problem with, like, all these startups. If you think there's infinite growth, we're seeing it happen with streamers,

we're seeing it happen with the Internet at large. Infinite growth's impossible. So when you've got a shared universe and you think it's going to accelerate at the same rate forever, you're inherently going to reach a point where it feels stagnant. The beauty of the slate is everything is so, unique to itself that you can then plug in a director's actual vision. You can actually let writers and directors

create their own thing over here without it feeling like it sullies the rest and then you can choose to go further than that direction or not. Like this is an actual infinite expandable universe as opposed to everything has to be like remember that guy that new Norman Osborne? Everything's in the Osborne basement like this is the opposite. If you guys are just joining I'm seeing some of this in the chat is that we reacted to the video that James Gunn said up front and we're just scoring rolling through it, then we're going to be going through the chat in just a little bit.

Because we know we got, like, actually, a fair amount of super chats. Thank you guys. But there's a lot of you guys in the comments right now. So thank you so much for being here. Before you hop on over, you know, Grace, Randolph, and Campia. I appreciate you guys being here right now. You stay with us. We know comics.

And so, yeah, it sounds like the Wonder Woman three movies not coming, for sure. Dude, we're doing a wonderful. It's Paradise Lost as a TV show live action. But the pitch for this sounds very different than that of the comic. Yeah. Which makes a lot of sense. Like I said, when I first read the titles, I didn't tell Koi what the titles were. I was sitting here.

I didn't tell Koi what the titles were, but I was like, a lot of these titles sound like he pulled names from graphic novels or comic runs, but it's probably not even going to be that. Even for like Gods and Monsters, which is a very justicely kind of title. There's even an animated movie called, because this chapter is called Gods and Monsters, the DCU Chapter 1. And there is, you guys got to, eventually. We're going to watch it soon. I think it's like the, like, a 23rd movie or something. We'll get that. It's Justice League Gods and Monsters, which is like a...

I'll let you guys. It's like an alternate take on a lot of the superheroes. That's needless to say, it's a very different thing. With Brennan Fraser. But, yeah, but even with Paradise Lost, this sounds like a very different thing. Is Wonder Woman even going to be in this? It sounds like I was a little bit lost on what he was saying there. It seems like she is because of the Paradise Island tie-in,

and I do think they're going to be very expansive, but I don't feel like they'll alienate people by having themascar not feature Wonder Woman, but it could be a way to set up them as like that's the third act. Like I could see it being like a real origin to that world. And also Paradise Lost is a legacy arc. Like a Paradise Lost is later in the journey of Wonder Woman.

So I can't imagine it starting there in the comic tradition. Like you're saying it's going to vary. But I do think it might be like Civil War where in Civil War that's not the comic book, but the heart of it is still that conflict. Maybe the heart of the conflict of Paredes Lost is somehow incorporated into this new origin for that character.

I was reading, too, that he was saying how great. Oh, wait, someone's saying it's before one or when it is a prequel. I missed that. I was too excited to see that. Yeah, yeah, that's why I was like, I don't think one of one actually made. That's why I'm saying the third act. D.H. Galka, do! Yeah, it might as well.

Well, he gave a lot of praise for the Flash movie, by the way. I saw that in a variety headline that is one of like the best superhero movies ever made according to James Gunn. Another thing that I think is really cool about the way that this is launching where with the MCU specifically if we're going to play a little bit of a versus thing right now even though I love the

MCU very much so you guys know this is that the TV shows seem to have always fought for as much of an equal resonation in terms of connective universe. You know what I mean? And this is kicking off with a TV show

and part of this announcement of its first chapter was the other TV shows which I think is really cool because it's saying these TV shows are going to be just as significant of a viewing experience in order to get the entire chapter versus the show's coming later

down the road and be like, people tune in for this show and then a bunch of shows come out and you're like, where's this show going to matter in the movies, you know? You keep saying zombie strange is the same zombie. That's a different zombie. Yeah, yeah. And I hope they can keep that consistent of having the actors all be across

every medium because, you know, Marvel has tried that and it's worked somewhat. And it's smart to establish the else worlds up front like make it really clear. I also think that they're going to benefit

so much from being the one to do it after seeing some of the things, not work. Just on a business scale, James Gunn's been there from he kind of caused the cosmic pivot

because Guardians was so good. He was part of the brain trust of what a shared universe can be but he's also seen how Marvel has had a Disney Plus launch that was like, trust us this matters, but it's over here.

And HBO Max is so much more established. it's more established than even the Disney universe. HBO exists already, so you have less groundwork to get people to subscribe to a thing to watch your tie-ins. This feels like you're already halfway there because of the already infrastructure of HBO Max mattering of the world.

So I think they're going to be able to get ahead faster of having that coordination. True, true. Booster Gold is a character I know that you've been championing for for a very, very long time. I think you said Zach Efron. I did. Would be a great booster gold.

And I feel like he will. would be a perfect booster gold, especially for that kind of... Because he's a character who has, like, a lot of ego at first, and he becomes humbled over time. Sue, he's the one I said first. When there was an announcement of James Gun taking over, I said that there was going to be the Trinity and then some characters that people don't know,

and then the weird crazy James Gun stuff. Well, he opened with a crazy zombie army, like, thing as the first animated series. But I think Boosters, that great middle ground between the James Gun deep cut and the mainstream, in that he's a character that could be like, you know, you're Zach Efron's, you're Glenn Powell's,

you're like handsome guy charming, but he's so smarty and so self-aware because he kind of, he uses social media to make himself feel better about himself because he's not a good guy. Ephron wouldn't be terrible. People are, someone said it in the chat.

No, Ephron would be great. You watch, we are your friends. You watch 17 again. You watch 17 again. You watch Neighbors 1 and 2. Zach Efron is, he's too handsome. And people don't like him for it. He's very talented.

But he's a guy that... But also, it ties him with Blue Beetle, too. It works out perfect. And if it ties him to Blue Beetle, that that's the right age, you can have him to be from the future. And, like, I love the idea of an insecure guy from the future coming back to get his ego-stroked,

being played by, like, someone too handsome for their own good. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Johnny, can you scroll down a little bit more? Been praying for Boost. So we talked about Swamp thing. We talked about pretty much everyone, right? I want to make sure that we've got the chapters. Can you scroll a little bit on the timeline?

here, John. I just want to make sure that's something that we have missed. Oh, Supergirl. We haven't talked about Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow. I really want you to talk about this one, especially because I know you're a big,

you were a big fan of this comic. I think this is one of the comics that I'd like just blindly yelled, you should read this. Like, I think this is one of the ones where I was like, and it wasn't related to a thing. It was just like, I'm so excited to have to share this.

And Supergirl is a character, I think, is really hard to get right because. Really quick. Yes. He didn't specify, though. I mean, sometimes we were getting a little bit excited. So I don't know if we missed it.

He didn't specify if it's going to be the same actress from The Flash, did he? He did not. And she's not on, like, she retired from that character, but she could come back, I imagine. I mean, the fact that he's like talking about the Flyer. I mean, he's saying, the Flash is ending, though. They're saying it's a DC, yeah, exactly.

Right. So with Flash ending at season nine, I feel like when they had those. No, no, no, no, no, the fucking the movie. Oh, I was thinking to, yeah. I mean, still, it's still kind of ending, you know? It's all ending. It sounded.

When you said the, when you said the, sentence made sense of the time. Guys, this is why they got to start her. But no, the Flash movie, the Supergirl in there. Yes. I don't know if they'll use her because of the way they phrase that ending things. I feel like they have the opportunity to have Flash

Point end whatever stories they launched there because you also got to think Flashpoint had more Michael Keaton stuff than less Michael Keaton stuff. We don't know how much Ben Affleck stuff. Like, we don't know how Flash lands. We just know that now it does in the universe and they just did reshoots. So I can see where if they wanted a new Supergirl, they could

have ended that Supergirl's take in that movie with those reshoots, and this could be a launching point, because it sounds like they're going to have the best of all worlds where Flash is going to end and start things. I don't know if that means they're keeping Ezra Miller. I don't know if that means they're keeping the actress who plays Supergirl. Like, we don't, we haven't seen it yet. That said, this comic book is a beautiful way to have an already established Supergirl that's removed from the planet. She's literally traveling the cosmos. She's basically, it's a genius story. She's protecting this girl who saw her entire family get moated. down violently who only wants revenge and this girl wants vengeance and she has this sword

which is in the image and I love that Supergirl in this is brusque but not noble she's willing to strike vengeance and be violent because she's trying to protect the innocence of this character and that's that perfect middle ground that people want with Superman is there's this thing that people want a violent Superman but Superman is trying to prevent others from needing to do violence and this entire story is about her willing to shoulder the burden of doing this horrible thing for this innocent girl to keep her innocence and it's this, it's only 12 issues, it's very

accessible. Tom King's one of the best writers in the game and this art is the whole way through. That's not just cover art. It is a staggering bit of work. I highly recommend Woman of Tomorrow's so good. Also, it's a great commentary and Supergirl not being called a woman. Woman of Tomorrow is a play on that whole concept. It's her maturing. It's a walkabout story through violence, through Cosmos, perfect. Yeah, it's a great sell on the comic by the way. I just pick up comic book.

That's a fantastic sell on it. Well, what I think that's cool about it too is with Supergirl and Superman, it sounds like he's kind of just going to pluck you into their world. You know what I mean? He's going to pluck you into them versus, and sometimes James Gunn doesn't seem like he's too concerned with doing like a full-on origin tale. No pearls.

You know, a lot of these characters, like even with Gardens of the Galaxy, we're not really going to, you see how they came together, but you're not doing a complete origin for any of those characters for the suicide squad. You're not doing a complete origin for these characters, like they're already established now they're coming together.

And it sounds like he's going to be doing that pursuit, Superman, and it also sounds like there'll be probably a version of that for Supergirl as well, where there's already an existence happening with them. And you might explore some of the backstory with them. Like, you kind of have to. Do you remember that I just had this epiphany? Because I keep looking at this art, and it keeps making me cry with happiness. I said the only thing I wanted out of James Gunn Slate was him to reference comic book titles

and not give us too much information about the movies. He did that. Yeah, exactly. Because all we know about these is, tone via comic stories and we literally know plots but not we like this is how you do a slate like this is what I've wanted Marvel to do

for 15 years because like John gets to be excited about Swamp thing because of his emotional connection to the Alan Moore stuff but we don't know what storyline like we have all the data we need to be excited this is like when they cut the perfect trailer that shows nothing but you just feel the emotionality like I don't know which authority arc they're going to do

but I know they're making an authority thing this is what if media companies are going to bow down to the need to make constant content, this is how you do it. Because people want stuff to talk about. This revealed nothing and everything. Well, and also the establishment of Elseworlds.

And fun in ways, as Marvel has, as the MCU figured itself out over the course of several phases, it seemed like that allowed James Gunn to go, okay, I know how we're going to start this then. I know what I would do. Let's make the TV shows definitively canon right up front. Yep. And let's establish at Elseworld

right up front. That way, we don't have to get confused over everything So that we'll have Like that video I made six months ago Say you see Black Label They're doing it Because he even mentioned Joker and the Batman Which is the first two I said

Need to stay over there And again, that's gonna be better than Marvel You did tell me in private That you thought he was gonna try to roll over Robert Pattinson's Batman into it I said they shouldn't I said that's the one thing to not do I have it on camera

I said the one thing we're not to do I said never I don't think you did I said that doesn't work because the groundedness of that Gotham is the one thing that separates it from the other Gotham's because it's a psychological trauma. I thought that opinion it was existing in my head because I thought you told me that.

No, I said that's the one thing I don't want them to do. Maybe you're, you're tearing the opposite. John's the fucking Lutheran. No, the one thing I don't want is that. I've been very public about that. Because the one thing that doesn't... Who told me that? I thought we were running a test on this thing that we were working on.

No, I said Pattinson's Batman should never meet Superman because it erodes the entire psychological warfare of the supernatural element is intelligent. and the supernatural element of Gotham is that... If they didn't say all that, that's really fancy. I like the sound of that. The archetypal thing... That was all just to get us here.

The archetypal thing that makes Batman's rogue so unique. Everyone thinks that Batman's rogues are the best in comics, and I agree. But the reason that in Spider-Man... But the reason they're so perfect is because Batman's rogues are the exact psychological mirror to what he wants to be. If you look at Batman's Harvey Dent, that's the justice he can't be. If you look Batman's Joker, that's the chaos, the freedom of not having these rules. If you look at Catwoman, that's being a thief as opposed to being Justin Good. If you look at literally all of the best characters in Batman,

Mr. Freeze, that's hidden loving Nora as much as Batman loves Gotham. There's a passion to his villains. And if you take away that passion by introducing things that are too supernatural and too other-worldly, the passion doesn't become believable to the viewer, the eye line of Pattinson is that it feels grounded enough that the supernatural elements of the psychology could exist. Yes, yes. So don't do that.

Leave it over there. Was Eric Voss? Maybe it was Eric Voss. I know you get us confused. What I'm going to be very excited about, now we're going to open up the chat in just a sec. what I'm going to be very excited about too is to see how he goes about how James got all these guides

going about and also like one thing we have is like we have the projects announced people are vouching sorry to interrupt with you betraying thinking I'm sorry you're the shorter buff white guy from a version of Eric Val what I'm just telling so when it comes to him I'm going to have

to separate see that super check coming what I'm excited to see too is how are they going to make a clear cut what they're going like how you separate the Batman's because you still have to communicate this to a massive audience. Like one thing he was saying a while ago, James Gunn, when it came to, you know,

wanted to make sure everything was connected is the fact that, you know, sometimes even with Peacemaker, he was saying that sometimes people come in and go, wait, which Joker might be interacting with him, though? You know, like I thought that he'll get comments of people being confused still about the universes. So even though he's establishing an Elseworld's up front,

he is also establishing we're going to make a Bat family movie or the Brave and the Bold. So how will that be communicated and how different will that Batman be? Because over the years, our Batman's have progressively gotten broodier and broodier. Start off with Chris Towers. Just a Ben Affleck to Robert Pattinson.

And they're just exceptionally broody. Yeah. And now, this one kind of harkened back to more of a Kevin Conroy. So I think it's smart to have a Bat family situation because whereas Robert Pattinson's is very much still like year three, I imagine where Batman part two would be. Yeah. And this one would be way more experience.

He has the son. He's had a Robin by this point. You know what I mean? And it had a Batgirl also. And so by that point, that Batman would be a very much more mature, more experienced. I imagine more of a Kevin Conroy versus a Robert Pattinson. I also think that it allows us to explore a Batman. Like I said at the top, we haven't seen yet.

The Batman who bangs. Yeah. The Batman who bangs. And eats cats. He's just got a bunch of sex toys. Braving the bold in the bar. James Gunn's Batman does things that HBO Max's Batman doesn't do according to canon. Is anybody at all surprised that there's no kingdom comes style approach to the resetting of things?

I don't know. Kingdom's come definitely for Batman. You see this family he's got going on? I think that is the best version of what you're describing without sacrificing the tone. Because I do think that this Batman can work with the justice. League. Yeah. I think the Justice League can incorporate to a Batman with a family, and that's also

another archetypal parallel, right? Like, Batman never had a family. That's why Damien Wayne is an interesting mirror to him is because he gets to raise the child that he always wanted to be. Like his, his vengeance is, he sees that in this character. Damien Wings is in Welfard, right? I want to make sure. Finn Wolfhard is Damien Way.

Guys in the chat, do you want Finn Welfard to play Damien Wayne? Or how about Timothy Shalomey? There is one. They're my go-to picks. John is going to. I think that's perfect similar. There is one actor to play Damien Wayne. One actor to play Damien Wayne.

Are you ready? Are you ready? Aidan Gallagher. He is already Damian Wayne. Aidan Gallagher? Yeah, from Umbrella Academy. He's already a seven-year-old going on a 35-year-old. No, John. It's okay.

We should probably read some of these super, yeah, new, new rock star. Our goal today was just to go live before everyone else went live. And we did. That was our only goal was, we got a lot of people going live today. We got to make sure we go live before everyone else goes live. Hey, you know who read the comics and the pictures that James Gunn used, this channel. So if you want to stick around for some actual knowledge, we got you. We got you.

We got you. All right, let's go to the chat here. No, let's go, let's catch up on some of the supers. And we're going to open up to the regular, to the just regular, good old live stream chat. But I'm like, I like the way this went because this will allow me to go back and actually make chapters. That's nice. That was the purpose. of doing the live stream this way because I was like,

I want to make sure I can have a decent playback here. Someone can come back and watch this because I never know how to make chapters for our lives. Well, just cut out the first three minutes when we're all trying to get played back. The most organized one that we've had here. And then, yeah, but. Get that like to support chaos being structured by Greg and John.

Aiding Gallagher actually would be a fantastic, that is a great pick. He's got a percociousness. He's got a certain, like, hoity tootiness that Damien Wayne has to have. We haven't even talked. Okay, yeah, comic story is live on Twitch, not on YouTube. The platform's ours.

I don't know. The platform's ours. What's the Twitch? All right. John's getting it organized. Thank you, buddy. Sure enough, we're here. That's the Eric Bostream.

I know. How's he doing? What's he talking about? All righty. Resident Nerd Man. Thank you for the super chat. Creature commanders, let's go. Love James for the deep cuts.

What a way to start off. That's the deepest cut. I could not even fast. I think that's a very fascinating. I was kind of hoping for a live action take on it, honestly. We might get it if it does well if those voice actors are cast for both. Well, he said animated version at first. But, John, what kind of creature are you hoping to see in Creature Commandos?

Spitball, go. I just want more manbats. There we go. Manbats. Can you get a man bat as a creature commando? I think there's a way to get it going. Let's do it. You've got ghouls and zombies and vampires and stuff.

Give me Solomon Grundy. I've been reading the comic book American Vampire recently. It's great. Snyder book Scott Snyder, Stephen King. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah, yeah. Let's move up here.

Michael Loco, thank you for the super chat. Can I fill dead air with my pitch for D.C.? Please. Yeah, put it in the chat right now. Yes, absolutely. I think, yeah, well, the one thing about Brave because I'm seeing you guys talk about it in the chat right now, the one thing about Brave and the Bull that I think opens it up is you can get a

little bit more of your, with the James Gunn World, although one of your weird eccentric characters, like you could get a mad hatter in there. Yeah. I don't feel like Mad Hatter would work for the Paddinson world, but that would totally work for the Brave and the Bold world. I think it would also like Clayface and certain... Clayface, you could do Lazarus Pit in Brave and the Bold.

Yep. It would Rayshalgoole or Raz Alguel. Rav Alguel as Christopher Nolan likes to pronounce it, dude. Razz. That's not how you pronounce it. It's Razalgoor. It's just a lot of destiny. If you guys can leave it like that, that'd be great. But yeah, that's one thing, too, that's a lot. I would, that I love about the separation of Brave and the Bold and Hapads is that you can go

with the crazier sci-fi. But then again, you know, you do have a, you do have Matt Reeve stepping in going, I can see Mr. Freeze being in our world. Yeah. All right, let's keep it going. Lion of Demise. We haven't really talked too much about Amanda Waller, so thank you for this question. And thank you for the super chat. How fitting is that Amanda Waller is a part of gods and monsters? LMAO. Yeah, that is a very fitting choice. And he seems to really have an affinity especially for Viola Davis is her name, right? Yeah, Mila Davis. He seems to have

a big affinity for Viola Davis as well. Like, it seemed like when he was just, you know, doing the Suicide Squad and then Peacemaker, he really wanted to make her inclusion. He even expanded upon her character by having her daughter be in Peacemaker. Right. Sorry, but I spoke of that for you goes, but he even expanded upon her character

by like making her a mother. Something that you wouldn't really think about with Amanda Waller that she's a mom. Yeah. And so I Who's her husband? What's her domestic life life? Batman! Of course, you know what?

It makes sense. So, yeah, I think having Amanda Waller show up in this, having her, is it going to be a series? I think TV live action. A live action show. Waller TV live action. Which will be an interesting, like, anti-nick Fury show, like kind of an anti-agents of Shields?

Like a corrupt, like running things behind closed doors, but for evil? But at the same time, you know, like kind of the imagery that he was flashing on screen seemed to evoke that she herself was having to get herself out of a ditch. Yeah, I mean, she's handcuffed in the image they chose. Yeah. I definitely think that relates somehow to this. Maybe she doesn't have the connection she used to, and she has to it on our own. Yeah, I'm excited

for that. A waller on the edge. I'm excited for that. I'm a waller on the edge. McElrath, freaking, thank you for the super chat. Freaking supergirl man. My favorite DC character and the Tom King run turning into a film, man that hit me so hard, so excited sending love from the UK.

I think Supergirl is going to get a proper I do feel bad for what is her name? Sasha, Cal. We haven't even met her yet. She might suck. No, as in, as in like, it sucks that we get... The Flash Girl, the Flash Girl might suck. Who knows what does? She might be a piece of shit.

If she's good, maybe she'll carry on. I don't know. I just feel like, it's, I can't imagine being an actress cast as Supergirl, then being like, we're doing a Supergirl. Like, we don't know if she's the same Supergirl. But, man, that's rough. That is rough. Hopefully she can carry on as Supergirl. We'll see. But at the same. time I am curious you know like I know a lot of times you talk about the the casting and then people get political corrected and all this stuff but they did hire a Latino girl to be Supergirl in the Flash movie so I am wondering if will they just go like back to white blonde chick and what that might be met with you know I mean no matter what she's an alien so it's always weird it's always weird when that's the one people get mad at because it's like I don't know if skin color would be a factor when alien

Like, biographer. I think get a Latina girl and make her play a white blonde girl. Like Jessica Alba's. Get a white passing Latina. Let's keep this going. The hour man, John, please take it away. Having Damien Wayne be the main rubbin is honestly genus because we can then learn about the rest of the family retroactively just like in Son of Batman. The animated motion picture, Koi and I just beheld.

We got a Dick Grayson at least in that. On this very channel, you can check it out and see you guys get very excited when Nightwing shows up, just like we will, in the movie, when Nightwing shows up. Dylan O'Brien. That, yeah. See, I like that the focus of how we pitch, Brave, and the Bold is going to be on Damien, Wayne, and Batman, but it is going to open up the doors to see, like, Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon. Like, you're going to see, you can see a whole bunch of characters.

Red Hood, by that point, should exist. Oh, very well established. And I think it's like what they did between Craig's Bond is how do you make Bond work for today and how do you separate it from the other bonds. You go a very different direction. We haven't had a Robinson's Chris O'Donnell. We've never had a Damien Wayne paternal relationship with Bruce Wayne. We've never seen Bruce Wayne have to be that kind of relation to anyone.

And that is how that Batman works with the Justice League way more than a Robert Pattinson Batman because he already has to have a very different tone by his nature. It's just perfect. It's genius. Are you trying to make it bigger? Yeah, a little bigger. You got to think a lot of people watch us on their phones, you know. High phones, so.

We got this, John. You got this, John. Yeah, buddy. For a phone, it's better. You can read it better. Let's see here. Bananers. John, take it away.

I wish we would have gotten a Static Shock series instead of a Waller show. I don't think her character can carry a show. I think her character can carry a show. However, I am with you. Static Shock would be Tray legitimate and I hope that it can happen. Maybe like Shemeek Moore or somebody.

Get them in there. I want a Static Shock movie? Because I'd be worried about the budget of some of the imagery on a show. But Last of Us is showing what HBO Max is willing to flex. So I would love static shock in a way, but I'd prefer a movie. The Last of Us IP is so massive.

It makes sense that you would go like you would go with it. You have to be. Yeah. Yeah. Those Saturday morning kids grew up, all right? Static shock has just as much. But I agree with you with static shock. Right around on a trash can would look better in a live action. I'd want to see it. Yeah. I'd just be like to see the 3D.

That trash can lid's really coming at me right now. You guys know how much I love. Jessica Jones, but sometimes her powers are and then landing, and I don't want Static to be like, and then like, I want Static to be flexed. Well, he's already had the animated show, so let's get a live action movie now.

Yeah, it's time. I think a Waller series can work in an interesting way because you have somebody who is uniquely positioned as a non-powered person, but who has to be the fish out of water, but the non-awkward fish out of water, constantly wrangling and dealing with these people. She'd be like Daryl from the MCU.

Yeah. But a hard Who knows what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I feel like that will give you a significant amount to peel back in terms of character layers. Her powers work for the budget, and that's intelligence. She's got a doubla from Dakota Jones. Thank you, Dakota.

One virus effects. For me personally, Swamp Thing and Lantern's True Detective Season 1, as you say in your subsequent comment, is still the best season of television. And I just love Swamp Thing. I feel like brave and bold can be son of Batman, but better. Yeah. Greed.

True Detective Season 1 is so brilliantly esoteric while giving you so many themes. If they can do something that's like a space cop cosmic existential crisis that that show was, God damn. I feel like also Swamp, because he was talking about how it's going to focus on the horror aspects of it for Swamp Thing. But Swamp Things had so many failed attempts at this point. But I heard that people actually like the show, which is people weren't watching the show. No, it had mood and was, like, well produced generally and seemed relatively faithful. Did you see it? I saw the pilot, yeah.

Okay. Someone said coy for booster gold, and they got my number. I'm available. I'm ready. But I think, you know, especially with James Gunn's sensibilities on guiding a shepherding a project like Swamphing, he would be able to, I think, find that right tone for just the right tinge of self-awareness. Yeah. Oh, sure.

For a monster's creature that loves to protect plant life. Like, you've got to find a right pitch. Because I think if you go like to, I mean, maybe, I don't know. I could be very wrong as a while down the road. If he goes like too aggressively horror. Actually, I think I might want that. Now that I said, I'm like, it would probably be cool to go, but for your main character.

You got to infuse it with heart. I think that's all I'm getting at is you've got to have something. And there's nothing James Guns down that doesn't have heart. Like, that's the beautiful thing. Even Brightburn, which is horrific, has a lot of heart. He could find the tragedy, almost like a universal monster.

I think he could find the tragedy behind Swamping and really focus on that versus... Yeah, Slither has heart and humor but is also gross and icky and all sorts of other things. Super is so violent and it's got heart.

Yeah, and I mean, Swamp Thing, you've got the sort of tragic elements and the ecological elements too, so there's plenty you can imbue with emotion as well as spookiness and monster movie vibes. The Hour Man! Thank you, our man.

They are introducing all aspects of the universe. the cosmic side, the grounded side and the supernatural side. This is genius. Genius, for sure. It's also not shiny. I really like that they're showing the side of DC that isn't what everyone's

used to. I like that a lot of these characters are way swampier. Like, there's a lot of grit and grime here, and I think that works. That's not even a mention about it, Justice League. You did say that, that we would get that, didn't you? I said that the way... I need to remember what our conversation was... I said...

You need to pull up this video We can watch it live. I said the best thing they could do with bringing in a Batman was make one that fits in the Justice League and make the third movie in the new slate involving the Trinity be a Justice League but establish the characters first. But I believe that if they establish

an older set of characters, they can do it faster. That's what I told you. You're fucking insane. I think you're mixing up me and Eric Voss again. No, no, no. Cody, you're, thank you for the super chat, buddy. Coy, read that, please.

I personally am super excited for the Brave and the Bold as well as lanterns. It seems like they are going to make the lantern show a marred dark and gritty mystery, which will be very interesting. and I agree, because there's a lot of crazy stuff in space. Who's your Hal Jordan pick? My Hal Jordan, I mentioned him for Booster Gold,

but my legit Hell Jordan pick, which I've tweeted. You can check the tapes. It's Glenn Powell. The man looks like Hal Jordan. The man has the chin for it. The man could play a franchise for a lot of movies. The man loves comic books. The man is very invested.

I thought you were talking Glenn Howardton. From Sony, Sonny, in Philadelphia. No, he's like, do it. I was like, interesting. P.X. He's kind of a snarky, fast-talking. No, he's my Reed Richards. Glenn Howardton is I read.

Glenn Howardton, Reed Richards is the best choice. Glenn Howardton's by reed. Glenn Powell is by Hal Jordan. I love that you all set a moment where you're like, he can fly? Stop cast, stop casting Glenn Powell is this pilot guy. He is a great one.

This would be his third pilot character. He can actually fly. Too many pilot. Oh, he could actually fly? He got his license when Tom, well, Tom Cruise paid for them to go out. And then he kept going. And then Tom Cruise gave him like a bunch of like,

yeah, they hung out and got pilot license. Good team. to know. He's ready. John Boyega is my John Stewart. Ooh, nice pick. Redemption for franchises for John Boyega. I think Finn Wolfhardt.

For both trolls. They make John Stewart a white guy. Cato McLaugh. I only know the cast of strange things, people. Gaten Madarazzo. Sadie Singh, as a supergirl. Aiden Quinn.

I think both those choices. Joseph Quinn. John Boyega has an inherent charm that's got a funniness to it. Like, he's able to be quippy that John Stewart needs. And I also think Hal Jordan has an almost punchable face. Like, Glenn Powell's a little too handsome where he's got like that, like, golden age. Like, he's got a thing. He's got a Ken

dullness, and I think that works for Hal Jordan. That's very, that's very... I'm sorry he to appreciate that comedy. Ryan Gosling, in a good way. Hal Jordan, like a nice guy's Ryan Gosling. Yeah. Yeah. C.D. Fu?

Thank you. Thank you. Always wanted a war of light. And with the slanted show confirmed, I can only pray I get to see live action atrocitus. I don't know this I will fully own

I know a lot of things I actually don't know the character of Atrocis so I'm gonna own that I try to know everything Such a Ron Burgundy move I don't know this I just wanted

I'm not gonna lie and pretend to know a thing I don't know Like I've never seen someone just say I don't know this with the most the utmost confidence I don't know this so all out war

fought by the Green Lantern Corps Okay. Yes. What's atroxist? The thing I don't know. Atrocitus. Oh, that guy! Okay, I do know him.

I didn't know his name. Apologies. He looks so cool and spooky. Yeah. Yeah. Look at how cool and spooky that guy is. The Green Lantern lore is so deep. It is beautiful tapestry that if they make its own thing would be really special.

But yeah, this guy I know visually didn't know his name. Apologies. Wow, Koi. I mean, it's cool because James Gunn showed what he could do with. I mean, that's the thing. We keep seeing James Gunn and he will be guiding this. The same way Kevin Feigie is. guides the MCU, but

you know, the thing we don't know is like, who's writing these films? Who's directing these? I mean, we know he's running Superman, but like who's directing these films? He might be directing Superman. Let me reference maybe one or two other people, yeah. But there's like in the casting, there's so many more filmmakers who are going to be involved with this. Right now, it's

just James Gunn. That is the main creative association for it all, but I'm like, wow, who are going to be the filmmakers associated with these projects that are going to have to bring these to life because at the end of the day they'll be more involved than James Gunn won't be, you know? And like I said, more comic book leaning in because you can get tone early. And like two years from now when these movies come out, if you want to read those comic books, you can get the tone now without the directors of that.

That's so true. Alexander Haskey and the chap, I'm so sorry. He said Dave Batista's Damien Wayne. That got me. John McCoy, thank you for such a generous super chat. I believe Gunn said Justice League and Justice League Unlimited play a large role in shaping these plans. He also did talk about how the animated, he took a lot of inspiration from the anime. properties as well and that's what's really cool is going to the actual animated department

for all these things it will be interesting to seeing how it all unfolds i'm excited the focus is world building and storytelling that's true we're not it doesn't look like we're getting a focus on i mean we didn't really know this is if you compare it to the mc u about like thanos until after avengers one you know sure one smile yeah what's going to be the big daddy what that unites the reek essentially you know where is that all going to be going and And I'm excited for it. But, you know, I'd be down to more, too. He was smart to not go, Peacemaker's Season 2.

The suicide scores. Don't worry. Those are coming, guys. Don't you worry. Chris Pratt, he's in something. I know my wife has been unfairly getting crucified on Twitter for no reason. Has she? Yeah, man, people just attack her.

Just because, you know, she's married and people are like, he's just going to keep those alive because of her. She's so talented. She's such the heart of peacemaker. That's the crazy party. She's actually really good, too. Like if she wasn't good at the role, it'd be one thing. But, like, she's excellent.

No, I see it happen a lot. Usually, like, thousands of tweets a day. I think they're such a good couple because it's like neither of them is undeserving of their talent and success. So it's like, oh, good, that makes sense. People are stupid. Yeah. Get more talented if you want to complain. But it's like, Gun is so much better looking than her.

He's got that white. That's over fox look. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Like, oh, man, he really downgraded. What a victory lap for him. nerds, like James Gunn just running DC and being like, my incredible actress wife. Yeah, yeah. Raccoon

shampoo. Good name. Here we go. Gunn mentioned video games again, which I'm still iffy on. Thank you for the super chat, by the way. What characters do you think would make the best video games? Souls like Etrigan, make a cyborg game. Ooh, great question. Other than like the main players of

like, I mean, what I've been, this is the most cliche answer you could think of, but I've been looking at those, the footage that they have of those like unreal engines of Superman. Zippen around this. Oh, yeah. So we're still yet to get like a truly great gripping. You can be Superman flying around the world and then

also make it. Yeah. But then also make it in a way where it feels like challenging and there you have real villains you've got to fight it as opposed to just being so super power. Because I understand the dichotomy of having a Superman where like, oh yeah, that's great to play a sim

for like 20 minutes, but there's no challenge because I'm just zipping around and I can beat everyone. because you've got to like have a balance of both but I think if they can I still don't feel like we've got in that Superman game dude just make a game out of Superman and Lois

use all those plot lines just a drama text game just Toro fight Toro then fight bizarro then if you're still here and you haven't left the like please leave a like helps in the playback two games I think are very ripe for the pick and Etrigan I actually think is one of them because he's a demon

you can make a horror element game also his time would be interesting you could have like a health bar where Etrigon's time as like in power would fade and stuff, that'd be fun. That would sell big numbers. A demon game? You know what's popular? We were going to be like, who's that?

They just announced the authority, Greg. You're going to need to put Spider-Man on the back of the wall. Hear me out. Crazy taxi but with Batmobiles. Crazy taxi but it's just Batman mobiles. I play it.

That's not a bad fit. All the Batmobiles. Like Simpsons Road Raid. That's actually not a bad thing. Gotham. My second pick. The most video game friendly character of all of them is obviously Green Lantern because you could pick your Green Lantern.

You've got all those beautiful mythologies, all the Green Lantern. And then you could also make your own lantern and it's so visually like, the green is so ripe for video game graphics and that power, like the willpower could deplete in one health bar, your health could be another health bar.

And going to space and flying solves the Superman thing. I think Green Lantern is the best game that hasn't been made. What about an Elder Scrolls-style Wonder Woman game? Oh, that'd be fun too. Some MMO, open world, swords and sandals. What about a Sims? Beach game where it's the Mescares.

Sims, Gotham, Sims Themisera, Sims Metropolis. Lewis Cox, if Chris, thank you for the Super Chat, if Chris Pratt is Booster Gold, who would be Tedcord,

aka Blue Beetle. Sholo Maraduena. Sounds like Sholo's going to be Blue Beetle moving forward. But if he doesn't, Chris Trager himself, Robb. I think it'd be really bizarre

if he's not, like, hey, we got Blue Beetle coming out. It's going to be awesome, exciting. And now we've got a new blue beetle. And we've got a new blue beetle to fit in my universe. Well, technically, he's the second Blue Beetle.

So they could have the original Blue Beetle be played by a different character. And then there's a timeline to fall. That's true. I'm just saying Rob Lowe's. Andy Garcia is that blue beetle. Unless, of course, we watch Blue Beetle and then there's already a booster goal like established, but we just don't see. Right. But we just don't trick him.

Just get Will Poulter to play him. He's ready. He's gold. That'd be great. He's going to be great. Yeah. Pull it together. Jordan Garza.

Thank you for the super chat, my friend. John, I don't know what that says. Ruck, love you three so much. I don't know what our cue is, but love you three so much. Just want to talk comics and films one day. So excited for James D.C. We finally have hope. Superman theme plays.

Do you all think we'll get a Mr. Terrific or Miracle ever read Kings runs and really can't wait? I think we could get Mr. Terrific. I think Sterling Cape Brown is ready. For Mr. Terrific? That's not a bad pick. Sterling K. Brown is like the Mr. Terrific in my brain. I had a pick in mine, and then I was like, wait a minute. That's a guy I saw in the show, Love is Blind.

That's a reality show. That's not an actor. Sterling K. Brown was my Martian Manhunter, actually. Oh, I like that. Drax is mine. Dave Batista is my Martian Manhunter. Because I want them to work together again. He doesn't have to work out.

He doesn't have to buff up. Yeah, that's a smart call. I, Mr. Terrific is one of my favorite characters. Mr. Miracle, the graphic novel by Tom King and Mitch Drods is one of my favorite graphic novels of all time, like in every comic book I've read, Mr. Miracle is one of the ones I recommend most. I think it is a very, very beautiful tale of being

human in a world of superheroes, especially the golden age of comic books, which is really hard to tell. It's about Scott Free, a man who can escape from anything who's suicidal that's trying to escape from his life while being in love still and trying to find happiness. And Big Barda is a great character. It involves dark side and characters that are really, really hard

to grasp in a really graspable way. So I'd always said like a Jake Jelenhall type, someone that's got this really fun, like dejected, apathetic thing that he can play, but he's also really charming and, like, handsome and likable. So he's got both sides. Like, he can be like, yeah, like, the prisoners, Jake Gyllenhaal meets love and other

drugs, Jake Gyllenhauls, my scot-free. But I think that that's a story that would be a really good thing to do to establish the new gods. So I like that they're doing cosmic and supernatural and all that stuff here, because when you then make new gods, it doesn't feel as alien, and then you bring in characters like Mr. Miracle, Mr. Terrific, which I do think they're going to do. Fair enough, man.

New gods, Matthew Cronin. Thank you for the Momento DiCole. That's his first super chatty's ever sent. Thank you. Hey, welcome. Thank you for your generosity. Mariah. Mariah discovers the secrets.

Thank you, Mariah. The Bat family are my favorite characters in D.C. And I'm so excited for a live-action movie with a fully established Bat fam. How are you guys feeling about this? That's been my dream for the longest time. Like, I've always wanted to see a Batman movie franchise evolve from, like, a younger Batman. I always thought like you could pick it up right after Jason Todd's death. And then eventually evolve into like old man, Batman

where he's like, and it becomes like an Arkham. It becomes like an Arkham. No, no, no, actually it would be like an Arkham asylum story. Ben, Terry. Yeah, where he fight, where all the villains, the rogues gal, like that's the thing you build up to. But you're also building the bat family over the course of the franchise. I always thought would be a cool way to do it.

But the other version is just started off. Apparently that was Ben's movie. It was like an escape from Arkham thing. And then there was also. I thought that was just too soon. I was like, hey, we just met you. Why are you fighting everyone? Now, the Arkham Asylum Rokes Galler.

Because if you guys have read, Arkham Asylum is a fantastic comic book. Serious House? But the con, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The game is called, what's the game called? As I read the comic, and the game's very different. It's not the same thing at all.

The comic is like very existential and shit and trippy. Grant Morrison's like, what if drugs in Arkham? Yeah, it's actually. Isn't the game just called Batman Arkhamicel? I think it is. That is, you know, it's a funny. Never mind. Isn't it inspired from this?

Yes, and that's an Alex Pardee, and that rainbow with the teeth that James Gun wears on stage sometimes is also an Alex Pardee. Oh, I didn't know that. It's good to know. In fact, I have a version of that right here in honor of James Gunn today.

Sweet. Alex Pardee. I like you, Mariah. That's awesome. Yeah. But Bad Family is super excited. And just to aside, but it's like every time we've watched

one of these animated movies, it seems like it's one of the biggest, like, cheer moments when freaking Nightwing shows up. Yes, I want Nightwing so bad. To have that in a live action movie. To have like a Damien and then the prospect of Nightwing just showing up and stepping in. Also, like, we had the Nightwing chest piece way back at the Chris O'Donnell Day, which was the closest we've come to Nightwing was acknowledging Nightwing. And that was like 20 years ago.

So I think we're ready. Well, he put the definitive stamp on it. You just can't, you know, top that. Jay, thank you so much, Jay. What I love, aside from Chris O'Donnell is that they're establishing that comics, animation, TV are equally important to D.C., hope everyone feels appreciated. Especially the artists whose story arcs and artworks they are going to adapt, who are problematically often left out of those conversations. We don't need to pay them, though, do we?

No, we said thanks. We said we don't need them in the economy. Put them in the credits. And fight them to the premiere, zoom past their name. Nice word there. If there's a post-credit scene, people will see your name. We don't need to give them any money. They didn't make the film.

Don't you acknowledge them. Don't you do it. A bunch of bullshit. But J.K. Rowling deserves all the money for Wizarding World Games and stuff like that. Oh, J.K. She's Warner Bros. Synergy. Come on, guys. Dude, let's get Harry Potter in the DCU. God.

Yeah, let's do this. Daniel Radcliffe for Booster Gold. Sure. I like it. And Mr. Terrific. Danny Radcliffe can do anything. Galley, go. Hey, buddy. Good to see you here.

What I do? You know, you know. Yeah. Woo, this is amazing news. This is a DC comic fan. What are your predictions for the next half of Chapter 1? John Constantine and Justice League Dark. I mean, the way Keanu has been talking about Constantine,

you said that's I know I did say that one You said that they think Constantine 2 with Keanu Reeves Might start a Justice League dark As a separate universe I think it would be Oh that's where your picture

I feel like they would just keep it else worlds That's what I'm saying A separate universe from the main But if you do Justice League Darth You gotta have Constantine Right and I would say that you could do Either one of two things You could have Keanu Reeves launch it

So it's a team move with Keanu which is exciting as fuck Or you could introduce Constantine As the more British blonde one And make that the team I feel like it would be easier To establish an elseworld With Keanu Reeves

because he's not the comic version at all. Right. It's like you can eat it too with Constantine. That would be really cool. And he's also supernatural as hell, so launching him, all you've got to do is have Constantine meets Zatana just as a dark. And Constantine can be a gateway into having, it would be so easy to fathom Keanu Reeves Constantine having some weird gateway.

Portal and then go right through. He's fucking Spider-Verse. He meets Dan Stevens. Don't Constantine. You know you could do it. And you know who Dan Stevens is standing next to detect a fucking chip. Boom. And, yeah, Justice League Dark, obviously, we think they're building to that.

I think it was really smart to not do, to not announce a Justice League movie right up front. I mean, that'd be like coming out of the gate announcing an Avengers, it would have felt rushed, it wouldn't work. This is unique. Here's my one pitch for the D.C. you're going forward. Five, six, seven years down the line, Cavill, Bizarro. Nice. Nice. Very well done.

Oh, what an antagonistic move. I love it. Do it. Do it. Lighthammer 66. This is from a while ago when we were arguing. Am I going to have to separate you, too? I was just trying to, I keep looking at the art and Greg.

Keep your stories straight. Which one of you is Voss? Keep looking at the art. No, no. Behind the scenes, Greg thought I was looking at me because I have that habit. But I was looking at the art and he's like, look at the camera. And I was like, but the art is so beautiful. The entire time I'm looking at the super chats, you've been looking at yourself.

No, I haven't. I know for sure. I watch it. I was like, I know. You think you know. I know what you don't know. I know who is going to bring this stuff. And I'm like, I'm going to reserve this in the bank right now.

You think you know your eye lines I'm gonna wait till a coin decides to bring this up. You will never observe as much as this man observes. We would never really are you on camera. Just off.

You fucking imagine if we had a live stream would be really fun. Damn, McCoy. Why I'm doing this again? Awkward life stream we've ever done. Replay value off the charts. No one's getting separated today,

but we do appreciate you. Heather gear, I would hate to have that stream. Heather gear. Heather gear. Sending you love. Heather gear is an amazing. human being. Love the hell out of her.

Thank you, Heather, for contributing here. Thank you. Sending you love. Hope things are okay at home. Kawai Nancy, thank you so much. Hey, yeah. Hi, yeah. Oh, I'd love these stickers.

Thank you, Kawaii Nancy. Very, Rupert Jameson. Dennam nerds says Gunn is writing too much. Thoughts. No, they're just planning and review. I think he's only writing Superman. He's not writing everything. Yeah, that's just Superman.

He's writing as far as what they've announced. Kevin Feigey is writing too much. Yeah, I think this is a good. pick. I like, I don't think he's, I don't think he's writing too, writing too much. James Gunn seems like the kind of guy. You're sure denim nerds said the words writing too much. Or maybe they meant revealing? Like he's, I don't, I don't either like. Either way, I disagree. I mean, it seems like there's, he laid out a slate and they have a plan for the next eight to ten years, but it seems like you could easily slip things in between and sort of adjust as you go with what they announced at least here now. Can you go to the chat?

I want to see the regular chat for a second. Yeah. Go to the bottom? Yeah. Where are we at? Yeah, yeah. Refresh. Yeah, yeah.

He wrote all the creature commando as well. Oh, he wrote all a creature commandant? He said he was writing it. He's also doing a peacemaker. He's also got a little movie called Guardian's three coming out. Yeah. I mean, James Gunn.

He's going to be such a weird press tour on that. James Gunn. Yes, it is. It seems like the kind of guy, though, for whom things refresh it again. Okay. Yeah. He, like, look at the way Peacemaker float, like, flew out of his pen. Like, he was just like, ah, I just sat down. And then all of a sudden, the series came out.

He seems like a guy who's, like, always writing and for whom just ideas flow free. So I don't think he's writing too much. We look like the most uncomfortable group in the world. Look at us right now. Well, you're not supposed to see our legs. Imagine taking a screenshot of us in that moment. Got it. Punched over. I'm, like, coward behind this laptop.

We just look like the most uncomfortable. Is this how you sit in chairs? Three people. Got it. All three of us just like, we don't want to have a camera pointer. Spoiler alert, gaming chairs aren't comfortable. Also, like, crossing your legs look so weird on camera. I want to get a new chair.

Crossing your legs looks so weird on camera, but there's way comfier in these chairs, but then I feel like I'm contorted. Oh, look at us. Yeah. Look at us. Or refresh that one last time, and then we'll catch. Oh, yeah, yeah, because I've got a couple coming in here. Thank you guys for who have been contributing to the stream, by the way.

Is there also that other thing, or is it just all and this is catch all? Like, is it, I have to, like, streamlabs super chats or it's just super chats? There is this stream labs link? Oh, yeah, let's, uh, while John's point that up, uh, James Gunn's, Zachary Levi's recent controversial tweet, I can't be changing my plans all the time because an actor says something that I don't agree with, which is what he tells people at Marvel all the time about Chris Pratt, I take it. Sure. He's a great guy.

He's his heart's in the right place. I still like Chris. I wonder what, on screen. And like, I wonder what. Like the stream, please, people thinking. I wonder what they're going to do with Chazam to, no matter what. Like, that feels like it's one of the ones that's kind of on the edge. And I don't think that has anything to do with the tweet.

I just don't get on the edge. It's before Flashpoint. I mean, I think Flashpoint's going to be the determining factor for how all this reset moves forward. Hyper Gooch, thank you so much for the super chat, people. I think DC fans didn't win, by the way, my name. Ethan Lothurt, thank you for being here. Well, Tyler Hockland, Hoclin, Hecklin, Hecklin, played Supper Man and the upcoming movie.

Superman. Bringing dinners at a single battle. Thanksgiving, his delight. Well, I think the benefit of what Tyler has right now, if they want to keep Superman and Lois afloat, is that that's already established as part of, like, not even a part of, like, it's technically consistent with the other Aeroversions. shows, but it's already established me its own

else worlds thing. Yeah. It's like you can just travel through a portal and get to that world, but it's already it's not the same Superman as the same earth where, you know, the Aeroverse mainly resides at. So I think they can keep that show alive, but I don't think he would be the Superman. But that would be

great. He's a fantastic pick. I've been trying to get quite to watch that show forever. Oh, dude. They've just got Michael Cudlitz to be Lex Luthor. Yeah, that's a great pick. I'm very excited about that. I'm trying to get court to watch your man, Lois. It's seriously, it's a great show. I think you'd really love it and it would Be all, everything, every criticism you've ever had about Superman, it is there. If you'd like me to watch it on Real Rejects and React, leave a comment below.

They don't get the numbers, even when it's John or not. Oh, even when it's them. Hey, this is about like a year or more for season three to drop. Maybe if the stars align, we can all three react to it. Stubbo McShave, if Lo, thank you for the Super Chat. If Lobo is a part of a movie series, which one? Supergirl. Just cram him in there as her sidekick.

It doesn't have to make sense. could be in a post credit of that world. Because if she's traveling through space trying to defend the honor of someone going to meet all these bad people in different corners, there's a mercenary out in space that's done some messed up stuff that might relate to the big bad. Because I don't want to give away who the big bad is

because I think it's really special in the Tom King run. But at the very end, a mercenary that could know that big bad could be lobo. Like, it actually could work. That would work. And I still think Jason Moe could be Lobo. He's so made up. You could do it.

It'd be fun. I would really like it. Personally, like, it would be, it would be awesome. I think it would be great. Pop Gamer 1-202, thank you so much. Never sent a Super Chat before. Welcome. But I'm a proud reject nation member.

Just a citizen. I'm a proud United States of America member. Had his support. With this first chapter being gods and monsters, what do you think is the plan for the chapters beyond? I mean, that's a really, I mean, we've kind of talked a little bit on that, but Koi. What project do you really hope gets pushed?

I mean, I do want a Nightwing move. I would like a, I think Nightwing, it's still, for some reason, like people love him, but never got his time. But still doesn't quite get to respect. I feel Nightwing deserves, and he is the shit. I feel like that is the best grounded character that hasn't gotten the love. So I think that's very important for the next wave. But I honestly think the way they go is they build out and then they kind of come back

together for new gods. And I think that the thing that makes D.C. so interesting is these big supernatural elements with Cosmic that Marvel's got Thanos, but the dark side element has so many pieces that build to that. So I want a Mr. Miracle I think the most because it's kind of

like Nightwing in Cosmic. There's a grounded supernatural to him. And I think that's D.C.'s like bread and butter. See, I think it would be sick to do a Nightwing movie where it's like you already have, it seems like they're already going to have your bat family established so you could tell the Dick Grayson Nightwing origin and you could have him as Robin on screen via flashback

or something like that and intertwine that with a present-day Nightwing story and get the best of both worlds. I also think Bloodhaven needs to be introduced and they mentioned Bloodhaven in the Batman. I'd love to see Nightwing get his own time in this new universe and have it be the storyline Tom Taylor's doing where he gets Alfred's money

when Alfred dies. Spoiler alert, Alfred gets killed. And basically he does whatever he's always wanted Batman to do, which is like put the money into the city and you see the corruption of like what it is to try to help the infrastructure financially. so it's a really interesting commentary on Dick Grayson doing that, which Batman never did because he doesn't have the same trauma that Batman has, but it's also like how that also doesn't work,

so it fixes a lot of ploddle as a Batman while making Nightwing his own thing. I realize this book, Goofball, pointed out that this color symmetry is the Nightwing symmetry. Finally, it is a comic book chair. Garth. Thank you. Mick Murray. Thank you for being. That is a good point.

Coy, I'm glad. Gun didn't just use semaphore flags. Swamping, Batman and Robin, Superman, and Supergirl, Harkin back to the 8. 80s and 90s movies. I joked that we don't know the format this is going to be, so I said it might be carrier pigeon or a fleet of foxes, and that is a play on that, and I would have enjoyed some flag signals.

Some super chat, Jensen Ackles as Batman. No, Atkinson. I would love it. I think Jensen Ackles would be a good Batman. Actually, he might be the right age. He's the right age. He's got that John line, loves the character. I think he'd be great.

There was a conversation in the chat where someone said Jensen Ackles was overrated, and I was like everything in my power to not just jump in there. That's, like, just not a good day. I love having, like, a little comment once in a while that acknowledges the regular chat. We got you regular chat. And that way they're like, oh, they are listening. Elastom Man.

And they're watching this talk crap. Elastom Man. Plastic Man is the one announcement I was hoping for that we didn't get because Plastics Man have been in development forever. And they've actually had scripts and development for it. And I do think that's a James Gun character like that world. I think he's coming. Al Rensha, which of these projects you think will be rated R. Authority.

Authority has to be rated R. And I feel like, give me Swamp Thing, R. Art with Swamp Thing. Depending on the budget, because... Yes, TBMA Waller. Got to make that money back. But I think Waller's show for sure would be R-rated in whatever television is. Like, what do you...

MTVM-A. HBO does that TV, MA? Yeah, that's what it is? Yeah, because they still have TV. I don't pay attention that shit. They still run there. I just watch TV. HBO still is broadcast on television.

I just watch stuff. I'm like, oh, this is violent. What is this? Surprisingly violent. I just turned this on. You can do that? Yeah, DCO. That's true.

That's a great point. Or L. She's in the chat. The DC owns all these characters for film rights so they can do what Marvel couldn't. Yeah, and TV. They're not the pie. Any characters.

Yeah, that's a great point. I'll trade you ego for Negasonic. Like, those conversations don't happen. Michael Loco. Here's the pitch. Thank you, Michael. Look, I remember you said to fill the dead space with a pitch. DC does things based on different crisis events.

This way you can have the side stories linking, the what-ifs, change the cast, every crisis, so they also get new interpretations of the characters. Very similar to what you have said before. I think they have a more established way to go out and in and implode and contract

their universe whenever they want. Also, like Batman, and establishing an else world at the jump. Talking about how he made the Bat family. Oh, I see. It's contracting and people die, and then he goes back down. But like the way they're establishing the else worlds at the top means they can have more canon. They can literally recast as needed. They can do side stories

as needed. They can literally have multiple You could have multiple green lanterns in canon and out of can't. It allows for all the things and directorial freedom with Elseworld. So I do think a crisis is going to clean things up. That's why they exist in the comic books. And James Gunn is following the blueprint. I've never understood how people don't look at comic books coming out monthly and go, this is serialized.

We should do movies and shows. Disney finally did, but they're starting a universe with serialized content that has in and out of canon because he's trusting in the audience and he's following the blueprint of the comics. These are based off of genius crisis. I think conceptually, sometimes you can, read a comic. Like conceptually the idea is like perfect but you know like

a lot of these comics do not translate like you can't just go let's just do exactly this comic. Not everything is Sin City you know. Most aren't. And not everything should be. Yeah most aren't. Also what do you call Batman the skips church every Sunday? Christian Bale. Thank you Vegeta. Holy shit that's a good one.

That is a good one. That's a fantastic pin that one. Pin that one God damn it. No no pin that. I am pinning that's an amazing amazing. That's amazing Yes. I love that. I've never heard that. That's good. And thank you Al Rensha for defecting from Campia and being here.

T.J. Perry, from our old school days. What did you? Let me tell you a gun. To the extent that my Campi impression. That's my Campi impression. Half-hearted Campi impression. And our first topic today. My favorite

YouTubers. I'm going to repeat myself. I'm going to repeat. So much tolerant person. He is a talk. He's so tall. T.J. Perry, what's up, dude? Homeboy from St. Charles, my favorite YouTuber's coy. I did a Tiger Woods-esque fist pump when Guns announcement referenced the comics they're based on,

and then I cheated on my wife. Like Tiger Woods. Yes. I had a sex addiction. I wore a red shirt and boned who I wanted. And I went broke because I spent all my money. Still great at golf, though. Wikipedia comic fans, I made a video calling out Wikipedia hosts because I said that this would,

be the way the way that James Gunn can make... Coy, there's too many of us out there. What are you doing, man? Someone called me an elitist because I suggest people read. But I think the thing that James Gunn... Reading is the tool of the rich. Proletariat book.

No, but the way that people can actually reward the work is people that have read the comics will have an advantage in commenting on it, like us here. You guys have read some of the books I've recommended you check out and we can talk about it, but all these people that are like, oh, what's that? I've got to look it up.

they're going to be behind because they're only going to have the cliff notes, which anyone can acquire. I do think there is a reward to actually doing the work. And then you're getting your expertise from experts as opposed to getting your expertise from someone yelling excitedly on TikTok. It's a beautiful thing. Thank you. My main issue is I have a hard time remembering titles.

And artists. That's the shit. I'm always like, I did read that. What's it called? I'm not saying that other people shouldn't make content. I'm just saying if you want expertise, it should be from people that know it versus people that pretend to know it. That's my only issue.

So thank you. I mean, there's so much to know. I've been reading more graphic novels lately. Well, I mean, the authority's a great example. And, like, Mr. America, so it's a graphic novel. What was it before authority? Storm? Something.

Shepard. Stormwatch? Stormwatch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you said Shepard it threw me off four, I was like, there was something before. Yeah, Stormwatch, and that was that whole. The Ice Cream brothers.

I told you, I don't know shit, man. And none, no, it's just titles, you know. Clark Kent, I want the Justice League back. They'll come back. They'll come back. If you're still here, please leave a like. There's no way they won't come back. It's a very ironic name to have joined your Justice League back.

I miss my friends. Can you guys tell me how the streams for new rock stars and John Campia and Grace Randolph are going? So good. Have you seen Paul's video heavy spoilers? I hear it's a good one. You just plug other YouTubers? That's what I do. VG.

Oh, hey, what's up? Thank you so much for being here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, they make a Teen Titans, you think. How about Blue Beetle? Ooh, that would be interesting. I feel like that would be on the reserve for a while.

because I think, I don't know how much they really give a shit about this stuff, but they're evidently building up young Avengers. And so part of me is like, they want to like kind of not want to have your Teen Titans thing come out around the same time. I mean, I think down the road you'll get it. Long story short, yes, I think down the road you will get Teen Titans. It's an essential part of many of these characters. Yeah, make a runaway style. Like Teen Titans especially, like Robin's journey before becoming Nightwing, he was a member of the Teen Titans.

He went to the movies. And I think Beast Boy and those characters are very beloved and haven't had their film live action yet. So I think that's like, you know, I want to see Raven. I want to see those characters. The Seemaker's Season 2 is shelved F.I. No, no, no, no. He wouldn't do that. His hot wife is on that show.

Francesca S. Thank you, Francesca. I'm pretty sure the show is going to be the trial of Amanda Waller. It's just going to be a legal drama. She Hulk will show up. Her ruthless is scat. They'll do. No law.

Murdoch, get them all. It's going to be a urge, want to get laid on Tinder. I wonder what characters will be involved. Will he pull from his suicide squad? Oh, definitely. Oh, that would be nice. Just swipe it on Tinder. I might just be the suicide squad versus Amanda Waller.

I would love to see the suicide squad, like, getting their revenge, like, on Amanda Waller controlling them, and it might be like that situation where she's feeling the comeuppance. But I also think it'll be a place to have some fun cameos, like Sean Gunn played calendar man and I think that characters like that would be a great place to put them in this world. I think do a Pocodot Man show, come on. Do a one-off movie. It's like a weird

one-off animated movie. The origin of an eraser head style. Yeah, yeah, something really bizarre and strange. Jack Samson, thank you for the Super Chat. I think I think Reeves Batman is so special and I hope a new Batman does an overshadow Batman, Patenton and create audience bloat. J.D.W. That's a... Who's J.D.W.?

John David Washington. Oh, John David Washington. That's what I was saying for Stuart. I agree. Yeah, sure. Patinson, I think, is playing such a different world that it won't conflict because, again, choosing the Batman that already has Damien Wayne establishes an older take. It establishes a more in-the-world Batman, which is better for the Justice League. I think Patinson's Batman gets to stay a David Fincher movie because of this announcement. I was afraid without another Batman that they would try to blend Pattinson, as my concern was, but also it would kind of muddy the water. So if you keep it over here at the Penguin Show, all that stuff can exist separately as an elseworld.

So I think this Batman announcement is actually better for Pattinson's Batman to exist. Yeah, and then you can get something you were looking at yourself. Oh, I was that time. That was totally true. Only that time.

I mean, that time I'll acknowledge it. That time I'll give you the credit for noticing. That time. It's going on for, I just wanted to wait. You see yourself moving and it's distracting. How do you not do? You're like talking to a mirror. Have you got used to that?

Like, how do you not see yourself? There's a giant screen. This screen is, what, 40 inches? How do you not see yourself move and notice you? One thing I learned from John Campia. That is tiny. It's a look. It's a tiny lens.

I know, and it's our job as hosts to connect that. With everyone here. And I see shiny objects. You sons of bitches right now. Now Coy's out of focus. You can't see his beautiful self now. But if I get closer and I can. Well, look at me.

You know what? It's shiny and bright. It's a bright television with a red coat. behind me. This development, all of this. This is my villain origin story. As direct, calling me out and like being to my movement.

As much as I love a darkened... I don't think this is, do they know what we're talking about? There's a giant TV right here. We have a monitor here. It's 40 inches. We can see ourselves here.

Yeah. There's a little lens. So if you record a video on your phone, are you looking at the camera or are you looking at yourself? As much as I can, I'm looking at the camera, but I keep seeing me and it's distracting. Just look at yourself talking.

I try not to. Most of my YouTube videos have got two lines. It's very distracting. I'm working on it. I know it's a cop. I'm just giving you shit. A lot of people do it. Most people do it, and I'm not exactly innocent of it either.

Very hard. Quickly, to the tune of audience bloat. Sorry. To the tune of audience bloat. As a viewer, I am excited for the prospect of what this new take on Batman will be because I feel like this will be an opportunity. I love a gritty, grounded Batman, as much as anybody. I loved the Batman.

But I think this will be a nice opportunity to bring some of the fantasy, some of the heights, some of the towering Deco Gotham back to Batman, and that will suit the shared universe in a way that will then contrast very nicely from we're going to go sit in the rain for three hours and be very grounded take, you know? Yeah, so I think that will be nice thing

and it will probably bridge some of the gap where it'll take, like, the best of the things the Schumacher movie's trying to do, and then they'll cram it into darkness. Good point. Snap who? Thank you. Through the damn Snyderverse.

Jesus freaking Christ. I was waiting for this. That took a lot longer than I expected. It's happening. It'll be an elseworlds. They'll spend millions upon hundreds of millions of dollars on that. For dozens of people to enjoy. Yes?

Oh, dozens, dozens. I like the Snyderverse. Screw you guys. You guys are being dicks. I like the Snyderverse. There are more than dozens. I think it could work. that's the thing. Is it else worlds anything

goes? That's the thing that gun set himself up for is... I'm still holding on 10, 15 years. Bring back Bat Fleck and make him do fucking bad maybe on. Also bring back Kingdom Come, Henry Cavill. Make it... Like, there's totally an option for it. If the people that wanted it so loudly weren't so

aggressive about it in how they deliver the message, that is a cool message, I would be about it. Snapoo is not an example of what you're talking about. I don't know Snap Who. I just see Jesus freaking Christ when a beautiful slate was announced. Someone complaining about something from the past. Well, snafu, you've created a real snafoo

in this conversation. Let me tell you. Brandon, Joseph, thank you for the super chat. Gunn also opens a lot of possibilities. Bat family, his family, Waller's Network, the creature expanded network, et cetera, all established off screen so they exist. Dude, and then your best movies are in your imagination. The best world building to me is when, like,

I think about when I was first watching, the Mandalorian and sometimes they mention like planets and shit that I was like I don't know what that is I don't know what that is but I'm still so invested in the show and I think that's a part of what the experience will ultimately be like not

like a bunch of wink and nods kind of like the name drop of Bloodhaven and Batman and the Batman where it's not like Blood Haven Yeah they didn't make it it was a sentence like I'm going to Boston it just makes it feel lived in yeah and I think that's how a lot of

references will feel just like lived in. Versus Eternals, the moment that drove me crazy was like, I knew Thor growing up, and I was like, we get it. Like, I love that Eternals felt separate until they were like, this is in the MCU, like, let these things breathe. Screw Marvel. Am I right guys? Am I right?

Separate the, yeah. Was that a complaint about the Eternals from Koizzo? It was. It was on DC stream. Screw the MCU. We all hate Marvel now. It's been lying about his opinion on Eternals. I just want to say.

Yep. And the Irishman, too. Raccoon shampoo. Thank you, Raccoon, for being back here. So if the Flash is the reset, we got like a $50 super chat. I saw it. I'm like, where's that $050? I want to just, otherwise, we don't get it.

I want to be able to see what it is. You have some time. I mean, I can bring it up now. So if the Flash is the Reset button is Aquaman 2 and the Deku. But it's a sequel to the Dekuie film. So is Aquaman 1 retroactively in the DCU. I think FlashPoint's going to answer that. I also think that the reshoots they did with Ben Affleck are an interesting question,

because they were still shooting Aquaman 2 while this stuff was not yet firmed up. So I don't know how they're going. I think they'll be reshoots. I think Flash is going to decide a lot. Firm up. Firm up. That's a great point. That's a fantastic point.

Nathan Pollyafay. Crazy. This is only part one. This is a really great question about the Aquaman. I think it's really like that movie. movies out in December for a reason. I kept saying that Flash needs to come out in December to reset everything. Now I think it's very interesting that they kept the slate the way it was and that

allows Blue Beetle to be a maybe kind of launch point, but a soft launch into what Aquaman is. And I think that Aquaman coming out five months, six months after Flash gives them a lot of time to make it in or out. Sure. They probably have two versions prepped. Yeah, they probably filmed a ton. And a lot of it's filmed on a lot because the nature of Aquaman is underwater, obviously. is blue screens.

Yeah, so you can film it privately. You can do reshoots without, and, like, Mamo is clearly on board because he's making, like, Instagram excited videos. So, like, I think it allows for a lot. Maybe that excitement video is him being like, I get an extra million to do as many reshoot as they want. Like, it could be anything.

So I think that really behooves people that want the universes that they love to continue to see those four movies. I think it was very smart of James got to address at the top. I think they need to make it so people want to see those movies because there's this weird thing where people are like, these two hours don't matter. It's only part of a shared universe. Go to the movies that you want to support,

and that'll help it be in the DCU. if you want it to be. Is it hard looking at the camera? It was so hard. I feel your pain. I feel your pain, boy. Pizon Khan. Crazy.

This is only part of Chapter 1. I know. It's a pretty... It's huge. The thing is, if it was like, I've just announced 11 movies, that would be insane. But the fact that some of them

are TV shows helps spread it out. Yeah, it feels like an early announcement. Like, there are easily more things that could be on the slate. They're, you know... It's more than I expected. It's a lot more than I expected. I thought I'd get like five things.

I was thinking three. I thought one obscure, one mainstream, and one James Gunn cut. Yeah, I didn't, I wasn't like, oh, wow, I wasn't like, Superman, Batman? Like, this is everything. Yeah, we kept going. Green Lantern. When I saw it say six minutes, I was like, what's you going to talk about for six minutes? Don't forget about the four we got coming out this year.

Yeah. Thank you so much. Hi, guys, big fan of your channel. When do you think Darkside will be introduced, and how do you recognize? and James Gunn will introduce him. First thing. Yeah. That's a great question.

What do we have on the slate here? Not Paradise Lost for sure. I don't, I think it won't be in this first chapter. No. No. It's too fresh and everyone. But he's got to be part of the super. It could be something to do after like around Supergirl time if they wanted to do it in this

first chapter. But I think there's going to be something other than the fact that you have Superman. I think it's going to be intentional staying away from Snyderverse stuff for a while. Yeah. But I think, yeah, no, I think you can. got to have it be with a, because Darkside is a Justice League level threat, you know? And so we've got to have it be there.

I think it's really smart that James Gunn said that Lois and Jimmy are going to be in Superman because that establishes a very earth-based Superman and that Supergirl is doing a cosmic story because that establishes them being as very different characters. And therefore, I think you can start to plant seeds of Darkside in both, giving

you the scale of concern on Earth and then giving Supergirl. But you also don't have to because of that duality. So I wouldn't, but I do think they can, if they want to. But is Jimmy still going to be a CIA operative? And be killed immediately. Nathan? Shut up! Everyone shut

up! And Nathan Palispe. Since D.C. is about legacy and history, which is what D.C. stands for, actually, if you didn't know. Need Teen Titans and Young Justice after main leaguers are set slash successful. Static as D.C.'s

main teen hero. Wow, there's a lot of, like, random love coming in here for the Teen Titans and Young Justice right now. It's static shock. I mean, the love has always existed. I'm just saying, like, I wasn't expecting that to be part of the conversation today so much. But I guess this is what people want.

I want only team. I think that the audience is, you know, it's too... Well, Young Justice has really loved especially right now. Oh, yeah, but I think there's two very different sets of DC fans, people that grew up when DC was already making movies, and then people that, like, had the Batman movies and like, I want more. And so I think that people that grew up with the Schumacher Batman's are like, now making them like we've become

the suits like there's people in power that grow up with them and I think those people had kids that knew Teen Titans so I think that's their Justice League so I think that they're going to appeal to those people soon because like I said now the suits the people that are making these decisions are having kids like those people are going to want their kids to have their heroes on screen

that's why you see all these Avengers making these movies that are like oh and the young Avenger like they're making movies that they want their kids to be able to enjoy Teen Titans is that audience I think it's coming Garth McH what's going on here John. Garth McMurray video game, I do. Space

Cavy, in a Grand Theft Auto style game. That's how you're bringing Lobo. Lobo right there. Lobo, Grand Theft, Lobo. Lobo in Santa's slags. He killed Santa once. Sure. Oh, that's a D.L.C. That's like one of those reference comics. I want that

Elseworld so bad. Lobo kills Santa. David Harbour playing Santa. Yes. Shepardin. Tolerent. Thank you. Maybe we see Brother I with paranoid Batman. I think Hugo Strange would be a great way to bring in Brother I, this whole world of Arkham, and I think Hugo Strange would be a really fun villain. Also a great choice for Dave Batista, if you've seen later on 2020. I think Hugo Strange, I kind of want Hugo Strange reserve for Pattinson.

Me too, to be honest. Yeah. I think he suits that world really well. Still put Batista in. Also, Hugo Strange would be fun to see pop up in Joker 2 with Harley Quinn. Yeah. Like the psychological element. Yeah, also.

That's how you connect those. Swamp Thing. Also Swamp Thing. We just made the Hugo Strange Universe. Strange Universe. We don't need Darkside. We've got Hugo's crazy experiments all the time. It's just Hugo Strange turns around and smiles at camera

and every post credits seem like Thanos. Prattaneski. Sorry if I missed it. But did you see the next Matt Reeves Batman is called The Batman Part 2 and releases October 3rd, 2025? I missed that. No. What a title.

Did that really happen? I'm excited. 2025? That's way too. long. That's a weight. He's already a fucker takes his time with making it. It's almost like he makes art. It's like he's very measured and considered when he

makes these things. Well, we'll also have the Penguin show in 2024, I imagine, because they started filming that in two weeks. That's true. We'll have that as a gateway and then that'll probably, because I hear the Penguin shows like the Penguin trying to take the remnants of Gotham and build an empire and they're going to have flashbacks and stuff.

So maybe it'll be... I'm surprised you didn't give any mention of that in this thing. Same. I was a little worried when he didn't. But I think that will be leading into the Batman. Like, it might go, Batman 1, Penguin, Batman 2. True, true. So maybe that's why it's 225,

if that's true. Show enough, all right. Trash boat. I want a Spector. My tooth, Spector. Love for Spector. I want my ghost cop. Let's do this.

For some reason, that's for my, I want Victor, Zaz. David Zasslav. Green light it. And then Bob Chapeck, we could get him in there, I think Spector can work now that you've introduced Hal Jordan

and, like, the third world. It would be very interesting to do, like. I want a Spectre show. I don't know if a Spector film will work, but I think Spectre could work. I think, like, a dark Jordan would be cool to journey into. Yeah. Especially if he's the McConaughey of the True Detective duo. I'd love, like, an esoteric, like, weird meandering Specter.

All right. Here we go. Pintimenti. There it is. There it is. On the ones and twos. Woo-hoo. A little big-ass super chat.

Is the stream enjoyable still for you guys? Yeah, are there seven people in here? Who's left? Let's modulate our voices next. Let's do Chipmunk. Paint a mentee. Wait, are we normal voice? We are normal voice.

Positive face. Yes, we are normal voice. John did a whole thing. No. I learned when I got on Harlofs, when I got on SCN that one time, I was accidentally in. I think it was either this voice or else it was this voice.

And then I learned how to turn those off. And he was there for a long time, and they could not tell if it was a bit John was doing or not. I had no idea. No idea was turned on. Oh, I love that too so much. He was there. He was doing that for such a long time. I was here talking like this.

Yeah. And he was just talking sincerely, and they were just cracking up, and he had no idea. Like, what a weird choice for John to make. Like, what's wrong with me here? Anyway, he says, they're so jolly. Let's hope. This paves the way for a Constantine Justice League Dark movie series game. Constantine in a lot, I mean, especially for Justice League Dark, you've got to have Constantine in there.

He's like, in some ways, consider the, I don't know about the, he could be considered the leader of Justice League Dark. He's the Bathears them, brings them together, runs things. I'd say he's the Batman. He's the Assemblyman for it. And I'd say Satana's the Wonder Woman. Some people might say like Captain America is the leader of the Avengers, but then there's Iron Man. Right, who keeps it together and funds it. There's a leader on the field

and a leader that runs things. There's a James Grasman of Peter Safran. Yeah, exactly. They're creative and a finance. Constantine, I think, is going to be our eye line because he's always kind of I want a guy richie actor for Constantine.

I want a very guy, I mean, Henry Cavill. Maybe he's Henry Cavill. No, but imagine like a guy Richie, Justice League Dark. Army Hammer. Harvey Hammer. Now's the tie.

Man from. uncle is just a hard thing. Arm and Hammer and whoever's asking for Ricky Morty reactions, now is also the time. All your dreams will come true. But I do think that could be a whole corner of the universe. I agree with that. Get Zatana in there?

Dude, I've been wanting Zatana for like 10 years. So they've been talking about making Zatana very, very quickly. Is that that's part of the past. That's not part of any of this new shit. That'll be recontextualized by James Gunn, we should assume. If you look at what Sony's done with all the things they almost made with Sam Ramey, they've done that with the Tom Holland and like because you remember Spider-Man 4 was going to be

vulture. I think a lot of times studios have a script and they go like, what did we almost do? And then they pick the things that work because Mysterio was almost like a thing in the Sam Ramey and then we got Mysterio. If you look at Craven was almost a thing of Sam Ramey. And then we got so I think that studios and Marvel like they joked about Serpent Society and like

that's a rumor right now that we're going to get them. Like I think that they plant seeds and then to see if it works so I could see Satana being a rumor that then gets folded into the new thing and make it work. I want it. I think that's going to be a whole corner. Thank you so much for such a generous super chat. That means the world.

Pintimenti. Doeyes. Thank you. The stream is making my workday so much better. Thanks for all the awesome content, guys. Thank you for being here. There are people still here. There are people still here.

There are people still here, John. Over 2,800, actually. No, actually. 3,013 people. Oh, wow. Thank you, everybody. Why have been all of you left a like? Come on.

Come on. A, 20, almost. If 200 on more of you leave a light. We just lost 10 viewers by acknowledging. Yeah, we just sast them. Al Rensha. If you think Ezra will be back, you are crazy. I don't, I don't, I think it's yet to be assessed.

I think I don't see how that probation goes. I don't think they were going to. Here's the thing. I feel like the decision with Ezra has already been made whether or not Ezra will stay. I don't, if Ezra is indeed not going to stay, I feel like they would wait to say that till after the movie is out. That way people are like, this is pointless. What's the point of watching this? We've heard so much of that already with all four of the properties. So I feel like

they're going to try to get, you know, I think with the way how a lot of actors have been canceled or fired, I just feel like maybe Ezra, you know, such a little thing. Thanks a lot. If Ezra never, you know, probably was treated equally instead of just a $500 payment and a year of, what's Ezra? Is that the thing? I forgot what it was. I hadn't been following it. I hadn't been following it.

I had a lot of probation. I got, I got, I got, I was like, I'm just so sick of talking about this person. Some probation, some community service. There's been a lot of Ezra videos we could have still done, but I was like, I don't A lot of people have made, bought houses off. I don't like, I don't want to do them anymore. People profiteering off of that stuff. sick of doing this.

We'll see what happens, but... I'm like, I'm running out of stuff to say. This is ridiculous. Maybe don't keep this person in a major franchise blockbuster movie. We don't need to talk about Kevin. Trash boat. I send a $2 super chat, but I like a Spex, okay?

Specter. I like a Spector film, kind of like the DC direct animated short. Okay, fair enough. And I also want a big killer crock and huge bane, please. Killer crock is the kind of thing that will work in the brave and the bold. Yeah, 100%. That's the beautiful thing about separate. That's why I love that concept because of the fact that

you can do a huge, actually yeah, a more accurate Bain would work for Raven Bowl. Laturedor oversized. Oversized Venom juice. Yeah, like go all that like that. But also intelligent, you can do both. When Bain is dumb, it's completely but killer crock,

I think would be, yeah, if you can bring that to life, that would be incredible. Isn't that movie win an Oscar? I think you got nominated. Did it win? Either way. Can you move? the numbers over here you guys don't even know what I'm talking about

yeah I just don't want to see that it distract me then I'm like oh how many people it's like looking at yourself in a giant screen it's distracting okay we're finding stuff

yeah that's makeup and hair style all right sweet all right let's but yeah I think a big killer crock would be incredible I think killer crock

is not like he's like a bit of a mobster yeah yeah and he's got that gash See, like he's got a thing, but he lives in the sewers. Yeah. He's like, he's got, uh... I want him to be just like that in the movies.

Say you on the killer crock, right? That's how I've always heard his voice. See? I'm a killer crook. Scram! You're going to be swimming with the fishes and me in this tunnel. You got to be knees deep and up here, concrete loafers, Batman. Where's that movie?

Dan V-900. Well, that's the other thing, too, is there's stuff that no one would think about, but like, I would love a period piece or something of rain. Gotham Gaslight, man. Gothma Gaslight. You could also do Surrent. Red Sun. Because of Ellsworld, you can do Superman Red Sun. You can do all sorts of stuff. Dude. And Dan V-900 agrees. Thank you for being here.

Damien, being the Robin, is a big disappointment for me. Nice to get a different opinion. I have a bad feeling we won't get Tim, who is a better character. Superman Legacy makes me think we will get John Kent. It's a very good slate, though. I think we're going to start off with Clark for Superman Legacy. And I feel like Tim would already be established. I think you can go back

and sort of explore these where would Tim be by that point in the Damien story because it goes I mean Dick would be Nightland already Jason Tim Yeah Jason would be dead Tim would be probably

You know upset with Batman And doing his own thing Like kind of running around Because they're not like He retires a lot He quits a lot Well they all do And then Damien would have to like

Deal with that like you know Surrogate son element with Tim So I could see Tim being like The Big Brother that, like, is reluctant to let him in, like in the Bat family? Yeah, but you see, the thing about it, too, I feel like it's easier to get on board

with a live action Robin now, because Robin can be a bit of a debatable subject, but especially when you're doing, like, a young kid. Yeah. I think it's easier to sort of get on board when it's, like, we've already established that we've had Robbins before, and it's his son, and that just makes for a different,

that makes for a more interesting, different side of Batman that we've never seen before. Because he adopts. We've only seen surrogate father, or adopted father. We've only seen that. We haven't seen, like, this is my, biological kid right here. Right, and that's a hole he has from losing his parents

that we don't really address others in the flashbacks. Well, and I think that conscientiously gives you the function of a Robin character but solves the ward problem because that just doesn't happen now, whereas if it's his actual kid and I get there's a scrappy do-ness to Damien Wayne to a certain degree as a character, but I think you could fix that too.

But also Damien's a character you have to reel in from like, don't become the thing I'm always fighting to... Right, right, my darkness. Yeah, so like the morals and lessons imposed by Batman, I think, will come from trying to get his own kid to, like, don't cross. Yeah, I mean, I think Tim is the good Robin. Dick is the one that left, and, like, you know, the cautionary tale is dead.

So, like, you've got all these different elements. Tim doesn't go away because Damien exists. No, exactly. No, they'll still exist. Despair and ruin. Getting Midnighter and Apollo, the best same-sex couple in comics is amazing. Billy Eichner as Midnighter and Matt Boomer. Matt Boomer.

What do I know that name from? He's an American horror story a bunch. People aren't him as Superman for a long time. We're all handsome. Very symmetrical face. Yeah, you've seen that over. Yes, yes, yes, yes. In time?

Yes. In time. There's a movie he, I've seen all of American Horror Story, so I know his face. Isn't there another movie? It doesn't matter. I love him as, and that also is fun to play with the Superman thing. Like, I love when there's casting that's like, oh, you're a commentary on. So I love the Apollo Midnighter combo there.

That's fun. Oh, but Billy Eichner? I actually really liked Bros. Yeah. I don't think Billy I could do it. I don't know his work other than the Billy on the street stuff, so I feel like that. You haven't seen Bros?

And Bros. I like Bros. I like, it's way more heart than I expected. Like that rom-com's got, they cared. I know. But, yeah, I think. A rom-com with heart. What? Only Crazy Stupid Love and Harry Met Sally. And now Bros.

End of list. Never seen either of those. Any of these movies. All three of these. seen like crazy, Blue Valentine? Those are my breakup movies. Nope. Damn it.

Okay. Let's cry to Blue Votes. Yeah. You, me, Gosling, and Michelle Williams. All right. Dead shot. We answer that question. But yes.

Great casting. Dead shot. John, take it away. Want to see a Batman movie with Red Hood as an antagonist, but also can't believe we're getting Damien Wayne. Glad they know to go mature with projects. I feel like Red Hood, it would exist. exist at this point in time, though.

Chronologically, yeah. Maybe that's the villain or in the background. Like, maybe it's a setup for the sequel. What if they just, like, totally dick us over? Ha, ha, ha. They totally dig us over, and they never had a Dick Grayson. It's just straight to David Wood. He's never had a robin.

He's like, I got this kid. The first Robin. You want to be a bird? I don't know what. I just have this instinct. I got out for make these clothes for you. The only extra thing on hand is these green tights. I've got this weird outfit that I've been meaning to get rid of.

Why did you choose this? Saw some dead kid at the circus. His whole family had a great aesthetic vibe. I thought I would, they're not using it now, right? I've been bird watching because my therapist thinks it's good for me. You look like a Robin. Well, that's, that's, I think, yeah. I think we'll get Red Hood and live action.

I think we will. I mean, Red Hood's a bit of an interesting cell for live action. But I think you could do a solo. They play off each other really well. You could do a solo Red Hood movie. Well, if Damien represents Batman achieving what he wants as of the father, he never had, and Dick represents the kid that left. Red Hood represents the failure he might perceive himself as a parent that he could

then succeed through Damien. So it could be a lot more of a paternal story if he's the first villain, because he could literally be accepting fatherhood as he's fighting the kid. So you're theorizing right now that Red Hood is the villain. Maybe be the villain of the brave and the bull. I think it could thematically. I think it'd be an interesting way to catch up on all the Robbins. If you're making a bat family, then he's the most interesting way to make the bat family

about paternal loss. Yeah, it's very anime too in the way you do. Right. So I think it could work. I'd have a setup. Actually, no, I really like that pitch. That's what I would write.

I'd literally have a story of sons and have a family that have different levels of loss and then you have the ultimate loss come back and you're looking at yourself as a father while deciding as a genetic father what that means to you. But I think, I guess my question would be tonally, I feel like that semi would,

like tonally, thematically, that sounds so along the lines of something more, a little more grim and serious. Not that I think Brave and Bold won't be serious. Right. But I think it will be a little bit more fun than the Batman. I agree. No, and it would be very hard to be like, I

lost my son. Like, that's a very badness. But, like, I don't know if you can do a Damien Wayne story without a commentary, so it'd be interesting. It's going to be a very hard tone. It's going to be a really hard tone to walk. Yeah, because you can make it look like Batman's a terrible dad. This guy's not a hero at all. You don't make your son do this.

You didn't have kids around you ever. That's an assassin boy. I don't know how it's going to work. See, I feel like there'll be some self-aware commentary about that. Yeah, I think there has to be. Stop adopting these kids. It must have Wayne. You really must give this to rest.

Yeah. What a weird hobby. Let's keep it going. Muffin. Muffin one. What do you think of Andrew Garfield's Flash? He could do it, but I don't want him to. Plain and simple.

I've heard this pitch many times. Toby McGuire. Yeah, but Toby would be great. I mean, all of it would be awesome. the speed force speed force is real Dan v 900 is that on that stream you were doing a stream recently

where there were a lot of Tom Holland he's mainly Morty Morty Tom Holland Dan v. I'm going to charge Mark Wahlberg in Sally There's a Papa John's in this ancient

temple in Spain oh gee V-900, gun referencing, thank you, Dan V. Gun referencing the Morrison run when Dick is Batman, but using Bruce instead isn't good. Dick and Damien work far better

together with the dynamic. Fair enough. I'm confused. I'm a little bit weird. Dick is Batman, but using Bruce and said isn't as good. Oh, the image they used is Dick Grayson in the bat suit, but I don't think it was implying

that Dick Grayson's going to be the Batman. I see what you're saying. There was a time that Dick took on the mantle of Batman. I don't think that's the story they're going with. I think they're going with. There's a time when everyone takes on the mantle of Batman. I've been Batman. George Cloody's been Batman.

You just have someone take on the Manton. I'm a Batman. If you're Robin at some point, she's a Batman. She's a Batman. Hey, a Batman. You're eventually going to be a Batman if you're a Robin. Yeah, like technically that's, I believe if my memory,

I haven't read this book in a decade. That's the D. In the suit. That's the D, all right. So if memory serves, that's Dick Grayson as Batman in the moment, but I don't think that's the story they're going with. That's just an iconic image. It would be brave.

He said Batman, though. I mean, he's still technically Batman. Yeah, but I think it's going to be Bruce Wayne. I would be very bad. I just commentized. Red Hood. We finally got a Robin, and it's the most interesting and best Robin and Damien. Hot take?

Your name's Red Hood. Have some self-esteem. Respect your own Robin. Come on now. I think that Damien's a very controversial character, which is always interesting. I like Damien, but half the live chat, not this chat, this chat, it's like,

Damien Wayne's stupid, but like that's the fun of the little scrappy dude. I mean, Damien Wayne in some ways, it's kind of like, I sort of likened Damian Wayne to Sokatano's introd out, or some people were like, I don't know about this character, and then eventually, like, as a character developed, it became a lot more interesting. Yeah.

But especially with adapting Damien Wayne into even the animated. mediums is often very hit or miss for people. Sometimes you can be very annoying and not not compelling. It's a little scrappy dude. He needs be written well. Yeah, yeah. He because yeah, he's a dark character.

Most people seem to be me Batman overtakes the street, overtakes the DC Universe of getting. Still, here we are mainly talking about Batman. There's 11 things. Yeah. I just like the idea that they were sitting in the back and they're going, we don't want to start out with Batman, but we have to. We got to mention them. The only think people are going to talk about.

I mean, there's so many Batman comics. They're mostly great, though. Oscar Franco. Do you think we'll get Ray Shalgoor or League of a Shations movie in the future with the new Batman? I would love to see it. Yeah, I think that's what Brave and Bold sets up. They already did Grounded Razol Gould for the Dark Night trilogy. Now you can do Lazarus Pitt resurrecting.

I've been around for thousands of years. Dope facial hair. I love kicking it around here. And I sometimes resurrect people, and they turn out fucking insane. I think we get Talia Rash and Assassins in that movie. The first one. I think you can't introduce Damien Wayne without them. I also think they're not going to be called the League of Shadows.

We've had the League of Shadows, but the League of Assassins in live action. Yeah, I completely agree. I think it's going to be in that movie. At least the world building of it will be mentioned. Maybe not Raz Al-Gul. Maybe they'll call them Rache. No one will notice. Yeah.

Because they've already had Razz. Time for Rache. Josh Dunson. So is Jason as Mamo as Safe as Aquaman? It would appear so. He's safe at D.C. at the very least, it sounds like. Yeah. But we'll see.

Maybe they'll just make him both Aquaman and Lobo and call it a day. Throw some makeup on him. It works. Talking Reckless. Thank you talking reckless for Super Chat. Del Toro Swamp thing plays. Love that idea. Yep.

What do you think of the creature commandos announced a lineup? Let's pull it up. Dude, let's check them creatures. All right, we've got to try to end this in 15 minutes. Frankenstein, bride of Frankenstein. It looks like we got Weasel from the Suicide Squad being our only known member, which is a fun thing to do.

But this could just be a reference photo. It could, but it also... Because I saw this photo when I was pulling up photos before. Okay. But before the announcement happened. Got it. So this isn't necessarily like a screenshot of...

Yeah, none of them are. They're all comic book reference photos. I just didn't think Wiesel looked so specifically accurate. That's very much Weasel from suicide squad uh i think that that's a fun lineup i do think that would be they'd use an image of their lineup though yeah i mean maybe could just be a reference it could just be a reference they could change it honestly they could yeah so so far i like it yeah i mean i think i think it's a great i like the uh i think the lineup itself is going if it's the same weasel carrying over

yeah and i think the suicide squad i think that'd be excellent and he made it um spoilers uh jab but del toro swamp thing is a perfect pick by the way i think that would that would that are bring the exact level of tragedy and fantasy and horror and spoo. It's a perfect thing. Playmation. Javin Walker's Peters, thank you. I find it interesting that Batman, the Brave and the Bold, is adapting Batman and Robin and Dick Grayson and Damien Wayne's story.

Why do you think Dick's Batman was swapped out for Bruce's? Because of the fact that it's Batman. And I think you have to sort of sell people. You have to watch that transition happen over time before you can sell. That's why I feel like some people are going, maybe we won't start out with Clark Ken. I'm like, no, we're definitely going to start out with Clark Ken. Yeah, I think it was just an image chosen.

I think they're asking if... The average person will not know that that's Dick, like, that's clue that not Bruce Wayne, you know. That chin is not this fictional chin. Yeah. I also could be wrong. It might be Bruce, but I think that is a Dick Grayson cover. But if they do start off with Dick Rabbit, I'd be like,

that is a brave and bold move, indeed. Could be fun. Could be fun. fun guys. Ismail Montoya. Thank you for being here and for contributing to the chat. All right, Coy, what comics do we need to start reading? Crack them nooks. Okay. And look at the lens.

I'm going to make some comic corner videos and I'm going to see how many we can crank out. But for now, for here, check out Supergirl, the woman of tomorrow. Absolutely 100% guaranteed. I would also recommend checking out All-Star Superman. Superman. the run by Jeff Loeb and Tim Sale, the name escapes me that is absolutely going to be mirrored here. Also, Superman up in the sky by Tom King,

I do believe is going to be referenced, and it also gives you a little bit of the flavor of that altruism, and it's removed enough. I think those are three Superman stories. I think as far as... Superman for all seasons. Thank you. I should have thrown it out,

because that was what in my guess. Such a big book. They have that. So, Superman for all seasons. I would also say, as far as Batman goes, the Damien Wayne stuff, I personally wouldn't start with the Brave and the, the bold ish stuff i would read uh like damien wayne now because i think he's a little more interesting

i think they've found him so maybe check out the robin solo title that i think is still running with damian way and there's a lot of his mythology i would start with the uh 80s version of brave and bold before it's batman first so you really get the full experience the brave and the bull you're like oh this this this isn't batman at all no in the brave and the bull we're just like a bunch of random vigilantes. Just guys, just doing stuff. I'm going to read this book, and I don't know what's going on.

There's a fact room at the movie at all. Here we are. You start watching The Young and the Reckless? It's for fun. Check out Planetary, probably before the authority. Someone was very helpful to chat. Planetary, I think, is the beginning

of that whole universe. Planetary, and then the authority are both exceptional and are really good at showing what an else world can be, because they're basically a commentary. What's going to be fascinating is the authority is a commentary on Batman and Superman. The authority is an in-universe,

because it's now consumed by Z.C., Wildstorm was doing commentary on these characters. So we're going to have commentary. It'd be like if the boys was in Marvel. Like, it's a very interesting thing. So I would read those maybe first before you establish the tone of what you think D.C. is going to be because it's going to be the most different and disparate.

So check out Planetary, the Authority, those three Superman books, and Wonder, sorry, Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow as like the first seven. I'd read those first seven. I can do more, but I'm going to say that for Quoie's Comic Corner. Get those seven books. that was like 45 seconds I'm sorry

that was beautiful I loved it and I took notes he's ready I love Superman for all seasons that book is so good sure yeah yeah yeah I'm not finished with it so I can't be a hundred percent like I agree with you but yeah that's like that's Superman yeah I've made it my goal to read I've read the most in the DC of Batman so I'm like I should read some more Superman's just because he's

the flagship don't worry same with DC me phase on con do you reckon there'll be a injustice movie. We got there. I think that's like a phase five. Like you can't, you have to love these characters for them to feel.

That's an elseworlds. Well, it's also like if they're corrupt and you don't love them yet, like the actors, you know what I mean? It's totally an elseworlds. I think it would be a bomb-ass move if they took our main actors and made it in elseworlds movie.

That's what I'd want though. That's what would be cool. Because you need to be invested in them. Yeah, yeah, that would be great because that's a dark-ass story. That's like the truest version of Superman going dark man. Yeah.

And it would be great. But if they, especially they follow like the injustice storyline like to as close as possible, which is already very cinematic. So scope. Like that's gorgeous. I think that would be neat if they did keep the main actors from their DC timeline. I also think that you doing these brighter stories is a way to make that more interest. But there's no way you could just.

Not from the gate. It's got to be later. Yeah, but even like a phase five thing. I'm like, you can't do that to like fucking Superman. Oh, not main canon. No, no, but I'm saying you've got to be with these characters for like three movies. Supervanism, bad things. Yeah.

Yes. Superman's not a good guy. Yeah. But it'd be a really fun else world later. Yeah, definitely. Omipawa. Thank you so much. Excited for Booster Gold.

What do you guys think? I think we've talked about it a little bit, but I'm excited for it too, and I'm hoping they keep around a cobra-kai guy. Zolo, Monica, what a lot of you. Ah, uh, yeah, let's say. Solo? Zolo, what? Sholo Marduña.

Nice. Nicely done. Didn't know it. Sounds great. Sure. There's no, Cholo from that great cobra cow show. That's respectful. Yeah, that's got a really cool name.

Nobody learns my last name because my first name is Koi, and I feel bad I've done that to Sholo, but I only know his first name. Everyone just says. Coy Jamboree. Jandrew. Yep, there is Jandru. Coy, Chondrew. Coy, peanut butter, and Jill. True. That's all they need.

Jordan Garza is back. RQ, thank you, Jordan. And thank you for clarifying. RQ is real quick in Gen Z. My, I'm going to assume B is best guy. Coy is 58 years ago. I'm just trying to keep up on the internet. What are these buttons?

There are too many of them. My terrific, I love Sterling, John David Washington, Nate Parker. Look them up. I feel you'll agree for, You know who might pull up Mr. Terrific, Kid Cuddy? Have you seen him act? He's a good actor.

He is a good actor. I'm just trying to separate my experience with his music. Like, that'd be interesting. He's a good actor. He's a really good actor. That's fun. I like that. I mean, maybe like, I think would Mr. Rubinian to tap it over a nerdy side?

Yeah, that's why Sterling K. Brown. Because Turling K. Brown, like, puts on glasses. He'd be a great Clark Kent and people weren't racist. Yes, I agree. Like, he'd be incredible. He's both Superman and Clark now. Like, it works now. Sure, but like, no, I'm not sure.

Yeah, maybe I'll take it back. I think he could have a good, an awesome choice, actually. That'd be really fun. I like that a lot. Radcliffe could definitely do Miracle. And also, who's your Batman? Strange Adventures one day? Oh, all this talk, we haven't even pitched our own Batman.

Who could be Batman? My God, he'd have to be. I like the pick of Jensen Ackles a lot. I've been gravitating towards that. If you've got a Damien Wayne, that also implies that Batman's older than Superman in this universe. I had Terran Edgerton, but I think it would be too... I think he's not quite right.

No, no, I think he could do it. He's a young look about him. Sure, he is a... I... And Batman, if Batman's super short next to Superman, because I like that Wolfgang guy... Pedro Pascal. He's great. Everybody loves him.

Always make Petro pair up with a younger child. My three Batman that I've always wanted that I never got to see, I think are approaching. My kingdom come Batman is John Ham always was exactly what I was going to say. John Ham's my kingdom come, especially as Henry Cavill My younger two are still probably approaching too old One is like a very debonair Sam Whitwer I think Sam Whitwer would be a great Batman He's got the chain. He's got the brooding and he's also very talented and he's got a cool voice And obviously Freddy Prince Jr. And I and this I cast him is also a Scott free but I do think Jake Jelen Hall be a great Batman

I think Ralph Mottoe Jason Omer Jason O'Mairge. Caleb McLaughlin. Caleb McLaughlin. Yeah, sure. Get Kyle McLaughlin to be bad, man. Caleb McLaughlin, very much the age to have a shot.

Very, very much, David Harvard. Just the cast of St. Sadie, whatever less it is. Sure. Dayker Montgomery. Brendan, Brendan Fraser. You know, actually, Joe Kiri, great booster gold. Oh, sure. Joe Kier.

Oh, perfect. Right? Perfect. Joe Kerry. Get Joe in there. Here he's hair as Bruce of Gold. I have a goal here. While you run through the sense of that.

Just folks, there we are. They were just, thank you. They were just filming Peacemaker Season 2, a block for me in Vancouver. Yeah, who said it was getting canceled? It appears to be street shops of Smallville. Spoilers. Oh, that's cool.

Do you think it'll be part of new DCU? With the Waller Show, yeah. I think you could probably fudge the continuity of the suicide squad. I mean, like they have the canonical Snyder Justice League show up in Peacemaker, but I think you could even fudge that a little bit, maybe, so I could see them keeping it. It'd be fun to tie that world in. Like, and I still want Rosebom's Lex back.

I would like it, too. Snaphoom. I think it's going to be tied in, for sure. I think he already factored that in. Snaphu. Koi, the insincerity was palpable there. What was that referencing? That's when you were like, I like the Steiner movie. I do like the Snyder movie and Snyder the Man, just not Snyder the fans. Well, he's a Snyder of the fan.

I like some of them, but like that's very insincere. Now we're going to get another super chat. If I keep insulting to that, was in the super chat. That's why the thing. Pentamente. Appreciate the super chat there, buddy. Thank you. Do you think they might adapt the injustice game story run at all when the new DCU is stable

established? I appreciate such a generous super chat, but we did just answer this question thoroughly. We do think it would happen down the road. Never happened. Short answer being that it would probably be in the else worlds, but it would be great if they still kept the main actors in the main timeline to star in that else world movie. How to make that

clear would be the question but they kind of did that with the Elseworlds animated stuff. Yeah, like Kevin Conroy playing a bunch of different Batman. Also, you can start adapting those animated movies as else worlds like in general would be exciting. Once you establish that they work. You know, it's a blunt

way to approach this, but why don't you just put a title card that says this is not a part of the main timeline of these movies? I think I think Elseworlds needs to have a different studio bumper and also maybe be part of the title in some way. Yeah, I think it needs to say DC Elseworlds. Like that way people know this is separate.

Or you know what they could do for the DC bumper? They could just put the connected titles on it in sequential order. Ooh, I'd like that. Or something underneath. Vinay Patel, do you think it would be weird that Batman, thank you for the Super Chat, by the way, that Batman will be older with his son already and Superman starting young as a rookie?

no did that would bat flick but wish the two started younger together as rookies I don't think I mean the Superman will probably be younger but Superman doesn't really age and the whole and I but I don't think the Superman's going to start at the beginning I think he's going to be an already I think James going to even said that right he's going to be already well established already reporting and stuff so it's going to be start he could be like way into it he's just younger than the Cavill take that's all that him and Lois could already be together stuff, you know, like, we don't know what point in the timeline it's starting off with Superman, but it's definitely not going to be like, I'm establishing myself and I'm going to protect Metropolis.

Well, and I think that's something we would have to then look forward to because we're at a point right now where we've seen the origins so many times that we're post that. We're trying to begin things mid-progress, and so I think with this universe, if it forges well and is well-received, then 10 years down the line, you can do some kind of massive overhaul reboot and start them out as rookies again when that idea feels fresh. True. Yeah. True. So, Trey Port Horror.

Thank you, Trey. Hey, guys. I'm hyped for The Brave and the Bowl as a potential set up for the Bat family. Who would you guys cast as Bruce and Damien? We went through our Bruce Bix. Let's go through our Damien Picks. Finn Wolf Hart, Timothy Shalman. Aidan Gallagher.

The kid from Goddor. It really helps to advance my comic knowledge. Hey, thank you, man. We're going to be bringing them back relatively soon. And, but yeah, I think for Damien, you said, Aiden Gallagher, I think is a great pick. I personally think that, you know, Sadie Sink, Millie Bobby Browns. Gayda Mazurazzo. The guy who plays Lucas on Stranger Things.

How do you say, Katie's last name? Noah Schnapp. Gadee Mazurazzo as this boy. Gadea Mazurazza. I think any one of them would great. John, throw a name in there. The kid from the, the kid from Haunting of Hillhouse with the glasses, him. Can we do a comic core

where we just cast Stranger Things actors as DC characters The three of us just sit down We just do a whole Stranger Things Cast the kid who got his ear pulled off in Mithrigan As Damian Way

Spoilers Cast Megan Yes But yeah no I think This are great picks Heather Gear Thank you again for being here You guys are my absolute

Faves I want to hear you pitch For a Granny Goodness show You see in Superman Legacy Granny Goodness was involved And I do think that with this gun world, Granny Goodness could be... Because I thought Granny Goodness,

and like, it's technically part of the Zach Snyder Justice League world. Yeah, but they didn't really... There was something about it. I'm like, that's kind of a weird... It's Granny Goodness. It's a strange character. And Zach's not a Justice...

They're really dark and shit. Which Granny Goodness could work for, but there's got to be a little bit... I'm a bit of a high... It's not as about cookiness as it requires. Because, yeah, Granny Goodness is a bit of, like, I'm like... She's like an old larger...

And she's very intense and weird. Like, it's a... I think Kathy Bates would be a great, I think World of... I think you could include her in a world of tomorrow. Margo Martindale. Oh, Margo Martindale be an incredible.

So the show I would do for Grand Goodness if you want my pitch is you introduce the New Gods. You introduce Scott Free, Mr. Miracle Big Barta, and then Granny Goodness is trying to steal their child for Darkside because he's the prodigy... The progeny apologies of Darkside by way of them to. So Granny Goodness, like, manipulate.

the literal gods to get her way and it's like this slow burn because that way you play with the grainy element and the new gods and all those things and it'd be a fun way to tell like almost a grim fairy tale through the gods of D.C. So wait, she had a baby with Darkland.

So basically they have a child and he's owned by Darkside because Mr. Miracle being one of the new gods means that Darkside has like kind of ownership property of. So he would try to reclaim this child and then Granny Goodness could be the one trying to like enact it because dark side wouldn't do the dirty work so granny goodness trying to

steal a child is very like folklorian fairy taley and that would allow you to have someone like you know martindale or kathy bates play it the way you'd need to that's the story i'd do that's great pick koi say tang okay in the live team chat watching you guys argue this is fun let's keep it going trey porter thank you so much would gun bring in plastic man yes since he was in the brave and the bold cartoon show i totally think plastic man is 100% coming to the dc universe yeah and so is Ava DuVernay's new gods. I think you get soups to play Damien Wing. Let's go, bad man.

That's the Joker. He's ready. Oh, my God. All right. This is the Joker. Boschwa. If this phase, thank you, Boschwa. If this phase is successful, do you think they're going to do Flashpoint again?

No. No. Thank you, Boschw for being here, but I don't think they'll be doing. I don't think they'll be doing it again. Do infinite Earths or something. Yeah, there might be another crisis-ish. Like, FlashPoint's kind of its own version of a crisis-ish, but I think it'd be a full-on crisis.

I feel like if they did another one, it would be like the time machine where he just kind of just keeps going back and trying to fix it, but it just keeps getting worse. Yeah, they might do a more direct, literal flashpoint. Yeah. Oh, Elongated Man, Frager on the chat says. I like that.

Yeah, buddy. Alongated Man, that would be amazing. And bring back the guy who was canceled for Alongated Man in the Flash show. Jordan Garza. hope one day we got the blue and gold plus miracle friend absolutely we've talked extensively about that in the stream and i think it's coming i think it's coming uh gags where did the blue beetle and aquaman movie sits to come after the flash which resets the verse but the superman movie starts with the new verse uh the blue beetle aquaman movie we will not what do you think coy i think it away i think blue beetle if it is uh successful to scale will be the beginning of uh the the marvel universe in the same way that like the Hulk movie is in the MCU but it's only like used later so I could see Sholo getting to play in like a year or two if the movie does well I could also see where they kind of like let Flashpoint wipe it away it does like Aquaman I think they're resting on the a billion the first one made as being safe but I think Blue Beetle is canon as long as it does well enough that they that they wanted to but also the very low budget the fact that the suit looks absolutely perfect the fact that the casting is perfect there's no reason for it not to do well so I think they're going to count on it doing well and then therefore fold it

into the new DCU. The new you. Brandon Jose. Thank you for being here. Douglas and Rudd as old Ant-Man Pim and young version Lang can be the model for Beetle in D.C. Reyes is the young version with Cord

being older with booster gold. That's kind of what I was saying is you could have a different blue beetle because we have Reyes as the new blue beetle and he's the first blue beetle to audiences that are seeing the movie, but there was a blue beetle that preceded him. So if you're doing something,

involving time travel like booster gold what if booster goes from the future to the 80s and then you have got an 80s set blue beetle booster gold movie which be so much fun because he'd be like looking for attention on social media it doesn't exist it's an age of arrogance and big shoulder pads and like you know poposity and that'd be really fun to have booster gold there and maybe learn his lessons but also allow for another blue beetle that wouldn't mess the continuity of uh show those all right guys i'm going to be turning off the super chats right now we're going to go through the rest of these super chats but i may turn off the we're not going to be able to get any more.

Sidra. Thank you for all of your generosity. Sidra Zaidi, I just joined. Thank you for joining this live stream and for being so generous. So I haven't been able to see the new DC slate. Is there any news on Static

Shock? There is not news, but there are lots of hopes and dreams for it. People in the chat have been very enthused. I've been hearing for years about a movie being made. I've been a huge fan of the cartoon. They've got to make Static Shock at some point. We all want it. Yeah. I think he's

Like I said earlier, Teen Titans Static Shock. I'll reboot the cartoon I'll be happy. Bring back Static Shock some way, shape, or form. I think the young wave is coming next, and I think it'll be Teen Titans and Static Shock. Sweet, I like it. Alex, thank you for the momento des Alentio. Shavai D.

Thank you. What are your most anticipated films of 2023? Ooh, an oddball question, a curveball. Personally, my top three, a Quantum Mania Scream 6 and Transformers Rise of the Beasts. Scream 6, shotgun ghost face, absolutely here for that.

Absolutely. I know some people don't like it. I'm here for it. Saw 10, also here for that. I am really looking forward, obviously, to the big comic movies, but let's go a little bit experimental here. My number one of those comic movies is across the Spider-Verse, but then my two

are The Killer, which is the new David Fincher film out in the fall, and then the Covenant, which is the new Guy Ritchie directing both Jake Chillon Hall and Anton, what's his name from Anthony Starr, Anthony Starr and Jake Gillenar do moving together for fucking Guy Ritchie So the Covenant, the Killer, and then

Cross the Spider-Bers. Mine is 65 Ooh, that's fine. What's that coming out the same day as? Oh, Mission Impossible, yeah. I don't have any interest in Mission Impossible. Oh, Oppenheimer, too. And Barbie. Oppenheimer and Barbie, definitely. Expendables 4 with Eco-Wise.

Barbie looks like it's trying too hard. Indy-5. You're not interested in Oppenheim? John Wick 4. Oppenheimer? Yeah. Nolan film? Like Nolan?

It's pretentious. This man likes the Irishman, but doesn't want to see Offen Highland. I was waiting for you to catch it. I was like, is this real? You got this, man. You got this. Of course I want to see Alvinaniver.

I was so concerned for our friendship. I went earlier to a screening of something just to watch the trailer. Just to watch Avatar just so I could catch the IMAX trailer. And I was like, this is awesome. I finally saw a Spider-Ver's trailer in theaters and it's a different trailer. It's so magical.

Let's refresh this, John. And I'm in the regular check. Roads Gallery fan casting go. I mean, we're going to do a comic corner for that. You guys are pitch-coil in the chat. Oh, yeah, pitch comic corners. Pitch Cois comic corner ideas. I need stuff to stick in the knocking right now.

11 episodes, the 11 announcements, what I would do. Yeah. Put them in the chat. Give John a table. What do you think this is? We have room for one table and it is here where the sound mixing board is. and the other stuff. We should get those TV tables, those like 80s, foldy ones. We have some. I have some at home. Those are fun.

Here, I think. Hey, you Shavidei. Christopher. Christopher, seven. Oh, goodness. Thank you for being here and for your generous contribution, whatever currency this is. What actor from Guardians of the Galaxy do you think will make it to the DCU and in what character? I can see Chris Brad is booster gold. I think, I think Palm Clementeaf is the first one to come in. I'm going to make a TikTok of this. I'm not even kidding. I think Booster Gold as Chris Pratt is genius

and actually could work. I think Batista as either Etrigan or Hugo would be very fun. Hugo Strange. I think Zoe would be a really fun either as Cheetah or there's a few like mystical elements in Zatana villains that are not coming to me right now.

Circe, I think is one of the names. I think... Make her, Talia. Oh, Bradley. Cooper would be an excellent Hal Jordan. Who else is in that? Vin Diesel is the voice of Darkside. Yes. Yes, yes. Agreed.

Kevin Bacon as Alan the first Give away the whole. Oh Kevin, make a TikTok. God damn. I'm just, I love casting. Jordan. I know you do. We got to do a video. Jordan. Jesus. That's a preview. Jordan Garza.

Concepts or stories. Thank you, by the way, from Justice League Unlimited, do you want to see? I think that's so far down the line that I would love to see a lot of the dynamic. Justice League Unlimited, I think, did really well at having

the different power sets play with each other. It showed like teamwork. I was think of X-Men and Justice League Unlimited as like these powers work well together. John and I have only just started the animated DC universe, like the DCAU, but one of the things I have noticed is I enjoy the show's

power dynamics a little bit more in how they're cooperative. We haven't gotten to see a lot of that from the DCAU yet. That's an element I'd love to see. Karen Gillen is Poison Ivy or Barbara Gordon. She's my Barbara Gordon, but you said not to give it away. Because I've got a whole pitch. Oh, I like it. Gosh darn it, coy.

Shave ID, here we go. Got a hot take. Honestly, James Gunn is very inconsiderate. He could have told Cavill that he wanted to reboot, but he left the Witcher and was so ready to play Superman again, and now he's lost a rule for nothing. you know I get your frustration here but I don't think I don't know

I mean given the timing and the bumper cars like I guess it is nothing to do with Cavill coming back or like he had to he pitched a slate which involved a young Superman that was what DC wanted to do and then he didn't have anything to do with Cavill coming back and apparently Warner Brothers

was only like half there with it so I don't think it's gunn's fault he he said he was going to do a thing he had to then do it and like I'm bummed I loved Cavill of Superman but this is a little short-sighted. As sad as it is, it's just you, the task, the job that James Gunn

was hired to do, and Peter Safran was hired to do, I just don't think you can upend the consideration of guiding a steady universe for one person. You know, I don't think you can do that. And so as much as people are upset, I think the frustration

directly with James Gunn, I think, is a little misplaced. Like the Doom Patrol. Like there's so many other, yeah, And that was done before we even came in. So I think there's so many conflicting considerations. That's business, sadly. Yeah, show business, I see that we all see the show,

but the business side of it is like this is a giant studio that was like hemorrhaging money. And I really want it to be afloat again. And I think that it'll make all the other studios better because if you have competition, you work harder. So WB doing well behooves everyone to work harder. And I think James Gunn is going to be the guy to write the ship. and I don't love that Cavill was a casualty of that,

but unfortunately it was. Red Hood's back. Jason as me is great. As Robin, he's the worst. Oh, I love that quote. That's fantastic Red Hood. Also, my mom's in the chat. I had my mom, she's lovely.

Oh, Mama Jandro. She said raining me in his no small feet, and I agree. Love you, Mom. It is no small feet, but we love you. We love you, Koi, and Koi's mom. Spud 1210, thank you for being here. I'd love a Civil War-type Green Lantern film leading into Black is not.

for the Justice League level threat. I think it would be more unique and new. I feel like you have like a whole secret group of friends. Like Cole and I, Greg's found some way better to do. He's like, I'm going to talk to these people and have fun over here. I'm just like fucking around

in the actual group chat right now. No, I mean, it gives more power to you. It looks like fun. Yeah, Justice League level threat. Just league level threat would be, I mean, I think Cinescro could be, if they do it right from the beginning, I think you plant that seed. Mark Strong. Yeah. Bring back Mark Strong.

Poor guy. I didn't ever get the chance. I think Sinestro would be a great opportunity. I think I mean, obviously, Darkside was kind of done, but the Snyder Cat didn't get a theatrical, so it would be kind of nice to see Darkside big and ominous. But that seems like the easy one. For Darkside. Who else would be, like, unifying?

Do you guys have anybody? Because Lex Luthor is really fun for Superman's corner, but I can't see him uniting people to that scale. Deadshot, likewise. Joker's Batman's guy Oh he's the calendar man Oh yeah he's right there He's wait for us

No no Mr. Mixel Pillik Everyone has to use the calendar Coy Everyone uses his calendar That's a connecting thing for all of us Yeah Mr. Mixapolitick is obviously The thing that unite to dissolve

Kevin Hart is Robin Dwayne Johnson is Batman Done sure Rain Wilson as Riddler sounds great I want Rayne Wilson somewhere in this universe I think he would be perfect for the kind of

cartoon but not quite tone Rain Wilson He can do, he can take weird stuff seriously. Anti-monitor. Ooh, that's fun. Yeah. Antim monitors is a good idea. Dead shot.

I'm thinking they can have the Batman trilogy slowly gain his bat family back. This is about him trying to reconcile. Have the first one involved Nightwing, then Tim, and then Red Hood. It's just him making a list and going to their homes and they all have families and then move on. I apologize. It's like he's doing AA. He goes and apologizes for a specific list of things. Stephanie Brown's there.

This is part of my rehabilitation. Stephanie Brown was in, like, one mini-series, but he has to, like, go and check it on her. Yeah, yeah, I think that would be a really interesting family. Fire night, the real question is, are we getting bat cow? Oh, granted goodness. That's me responding to the live screen. I think if anyone could bring in a dual chat cow, it's James Gunn.

I think the man could bring in Bat Cow and elsewords are possible. Bring it. Bat cow Christmas special. I want some DC Christmas specials out of this. I'm telling you, Lobo Kill Santa. is right there. I'm saying. I would watch that. And your David Harbor pick, it would be such a fun stunt cast. I would love

an Elseworld, like the one thing from Elseworlds, take weird little one-off ideas, stories, and realize them. Do it. I'm here for it. Oh, my Gil, thank you so hungry. I remember what food tastes like. Inside part out loud. Hi,

all. Here, because of Koicast, I'll look out. Cross over. First, yes, that's Dick as Batman. Second, what do you think Legacy implies in Superman Legacy. Connor, John. Gil, great to see you. Thanks for coming over from the audio.

It implies Paw Kent. Well, I think, so I have a podcast called Coicast, and I was very excited to come talk about this here, and I pitched that on CoiCast. I was plugging away, we crossed over. Legacy, I don't think ties as directly as, I think, a son in Connor or John. I think it's way too soon.

I think that that could be a story you told with Cattle. I also think the show on HBO Max having their kids would kind of, it doesn't quite work to do it in the movies as well. But I do think that legacy will be more about what it means to be Superman. I think it's more about Superman's legacy as you look up to him. I think one of the things I have felt, now that I've seen the, and I'll totally own this, I didn't watch the Christopher Eve, Superman, until the last day of my birthday this year.

Reaction here on the channel. We did it here on the channel is the last thing I did as a 33-year-old. but I did immediately notice a sense of wonder and a sense of looking up and scope and awe even for a 45-year-old film that I don't think we've seen to in the earnest open, optimistic way and I think legacy implies like

what a person has done in the past to build a history, a legacy. So to me it's more about what Superman has accomplished and who he is in leaving a legacy than his children personally. And that was Dick as Batman. Thank you. I thought so, but I wasn't sure.

Can you update the chat here? Sure. Disney fan wants to know what would happen if Greg, John, and Coy were the boss of DC's league. Oh, Rosenbaum, I'd definitely be back as Lex. And Glenn Howardton would definitely be Reed Richards because I'm running both. My wig would just have tons.

Is our last one? I'm ready to be Green Arrow. Sure. We will have to refresh once more. Why don't you refresh you right now? Okay. Yeah, if my DC, you would just have lots of Spector Swamp Thing and Salman. Caleb, I have thought about being a casting director,

but I was once an actor and I remember the feeling in that room and I would want to give everyone the part and that's not how it works. I'm way too like I would love to help you to do the telling no to 99.9% of people. So that is the last one. That is the last one.

All right, perfect. Paul, the true believer. Yo, fellows, we are getting a longtime DC character Sergeant Rock and the creature commanders. Can't wait. Yeah, Sergeant Rock being probably soon to be a household name is so crazy because that's, And if memory serves one of the...

I'm having my whole other show here. Excuse me. And just the... Just this. Yeah. So, John, put it with a super chat. Thank you for all the... Put it away.

Put it away the super chat. I'm just bringing up the regular chat. Sure. Because this is... I've been... I'm like, I don't think people in the chat have been... Paying attention to the conversation. If memory serves, Sergeant Rock was an OGCubert character,

um, that one of my favorite artists, uh, the Cubert School of Art, I think Cupert did art, but Sergeant Rock is like an OG, OG DC character, so it's exciting to have the idea of that character as something has a Haltold name, but I don't even remember him that well, so I'm very excited because Sergeant Rock is like a very formative character for comic books themselves. So very, very cool.

What was your... I was trying to join your show. No, I'm... No, please. My show exists right here. Oh, okay. It's just... We did a a message board. A in the chat. Oh, what did we? Yeah, and and yeah, what DC are most people excited for?

Superman legacy. Some people say, Swamp Thing. Okay. It's funny. People didn't write a lot of direct answers to this question. I was like, I did, we'll just ask questions to the question. There's just more quandaries. Guys, guys, the question, do you think James Wan will do any, here's piggybacking off of what Tiago Gidemo said?

Do you think James Wan will continue DC projects? I think they have a good relationship with James Wan, because I think, you know, Aquaman being kind of folded in is probably a good thing for their relationship. And it also means they have a lot of faith in the movie. I think it would have been a lot cleaner if it wasn't good to put it before Flashpoint and have Flashpoint end everything. So it must be good.

So I feel like James Wan would want to work with a studio that's like, here's a great time slot in a great year that starts a thing. Like I feel like that's a no-brainer. I also think he's a great director, so hopefully. I'm a Superman guy Now there are two of us This is a lot Wow

Yeah KS does rain Yeah man Dude fire James Gunn I mean he totally didn't Do his job with these 11 fucking great announcements He had one job to do today Which was to put some respect on Henry Cavill And he didn't do it

He just failed completely Now I was really impressed with that presentation and I don't know I was great He's a poised guy You gotta give it to the guy Corey would be a great young commissioner I would kill it

And Brian Cranston is the older one. Me and Brian Cranston is Commissioner Corden. All righty-guide, guys. Well, here we are. We're going to wrap this stream up. There's a bunch of live streams going on all at once right now. Hey, we did great. Who's still live?

I know Campia is more than likely live. I'm going to just do a quick round of checkups here. Yes. Campia definitely live with 10,000 more viewers and us. Let's pipe everybody's live stream into the live stream. Grace Randolph. Let's look here. Oh, no, her live ended.

Weak. Weak, Grace. Doesn't she like hate James Gunn? She'd probably just like... She doesn't hate James Gunn't. Oh, I thought... Oh, no, that's the Patty Jameson's right. Because they go through the bleed and stuff.

I just... So much is happening. So much Burnett. It's all happening right now. Jabbies live. Jabis Kablobis. All right, guys, I'm ready to call this. Are we going to watch us, watch other reactions?

Let's watch ourselves back now. Would you like us to react to Robert Meyer Bennett reacting? How is heavy spoilers video doing? You love what they're doing it. You're going to go train. When has Paul ever gone trending? Paul never did. Name one time.

All right, guys, for real, got to call it. Got other things. The man's got to eat. There's a full way. There we go. Now it's meta. All righty, guys. Well, thank you so much for being here on your way out.

If you could leave a like, that'd be very much appreciate. Thank you to all who contributed to the super chest. Thank you for being here in general. And, yeah, this was a fun day. I had a great time. I hope you guys had a great time. I hope you all had a great time. It's been a one.

bosses we've done some random live like this so this was fun and i hope y'all have fun can't we talk some more about this is going to be a year to three of speculating and more so go read some comics comics comic corners in there all right ladies and gentlemen we'll see you soon yeah buddy thank you for being here thank you be with you i will have to go back in my