The Reel Rejects - Jonathan Majors Found Guilty & FIRED from Marvel - Livestream

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

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But right now, it's clearance time. So you can save even more on everything you need to get active and outside. Visit your local Sierra store today. All right, citizens of the reject nation. Do, as always, let us know if we are live, my friends. It is Coy and I today. We got a lot to talk about, but before we, you know, hop into everything and start breaking things down here and start, you know,

kind of chewing the bones and whatnot, just let us know that y'all are here. Let us know that you can see and hear us because otherwise we'll just be talking into the void, which, you know, is fun, but, you know, it's not good entertainment. for the rest of you guys. So, yeah, live, I see it. Jonathan Davidson, wonderful, nerdy wave, Che, Jamari Middleton, TS Funk, 2005. Awesome to see you all here. I wish we were talking on a more, you know, upbeat circumstance. But yeah, before we hop into this, got to, you know, just let you guys know a couple of things. First of all, you know, just a disclaimer for YouTube and for everybody in here viewing in the discussion that we have today. We are, you know, we're providing an objective report on the details that are out and, you know, probably a little bit of speculation based on that.

We are not experts, but we have been following along to a degree so that, yeah, while our conversation today may involve mature themes and sensitive subjects and controversial topics, we are committed to presenting this information responsibly, and we are not going to show any explicit footage. Chances are you guys have already seen most of that stuff, and at no point are we. going to endorse or promote hate or violence, no matter whose side you maybe find yourself on in this conflict? And yeah, our aim is basically just to go over the details in an informative and hopefully maybe somewhat educational way. And yeah, we'll be adhering to YouTube's community guidelines ensuring a respectful environment for all you guys. So yeah, it's me and Koi today. Due to the schedule, we're just, you know, it's the holidays, things are getting crazy over here. We have a lot to get done before

Christmas, so. Because a certain company decided to give us screenings for episodes the day before Christmas Eve, so that's nice. What? Who could possibly that be, Koi? I don't know who you're talking about. We all want to work up until the wire. We appreciate it so much. But yeah, normally this would be like a 10

to 15 minute video, but today we are, yeah, we're here live because there's less editing and stuff involved overall. Yeah, we obviously as well don't know as much as the jury knows. We haven't been privy. to everything that they had to deliberate over, but we're going to, again,

do our best to be, you know, objective and, you know, straight with the facts that are available to us. Yeah, we don't, you know, talk about Celebrity Childs much here on this channel. We're not a big gossip channel, but since this is, you know, it's Kang, it's a big, big part of the

Marvel Cinematic Universe. They have, you know, rested so much on Jonathan Majors, so yeah, it makes, we felt remiss if we didn't at least address this because, you know, people are going to be wondering, how this will affect, you know, the film industry, the thing we do talk about, and Marvel in particular, which we talk about a lot.

And just in case you're wondering, Greg is not here today because he and his lovely wife are celebrating their anniversary of their wedding. So, yeah, you know, it's been a year. They deserve a little bit of a rest, a little bit of a break. This news broke today. And, yeah.

And he still worked. He put together a thumbnail and ran around. And wrangled our, you know, He did all the calls. He wrangled us kids. Now he's done. He's sitting. Yeah.

So, yeah. And he's, I mean, what really is happening is he's avoiding having to dance around. He's going out for drinks with, you know, the rest of the Reject Nation. He just doesn't want to do this, you know, bending over backwards to be respectful. He's out there enjoying the pub. Yeah, he just doesn't want to be, you know, part of, you know, a touchy subject discussion today. But yeah. So we're going to get into this, obviously, there's a lot to talk about.

And we want to hear your guys' thoughts as well. So let's go into the main view. Look at that. Whoa, hey, that's us. We're in the little tiny box. But yeah, how's it going, guys? Let us know first and foremost what you think of the verdict and of the evidence that you've seen or the details that you have heard from my understanding today out of four charges, which, you know, the four charges were assault, aggravated, harassment,

and direct harassment, stemming from the 911 call made on March 25th regarding Grace Jabari. He pleaded not guilty to all charges, and Jabari alleged that Majors caused her injuries during an altercation in a car. There's no footage from inside the car. We've seen some footage from outside the car, but it's my understanding that today Jonathan Majors was found guilty of assault in the third degree, essentially recklessly causing physical injury. but not necessarily with intent and then harassment in the second degree he was found not guilty of assault

in the third degree with intent to cause injury. So it seems to me the intent was the separation between the charges. I'm not a lawyer. Between charges that actually were found guilty versus not guilty is what I gathered. Yeah, absolutely. So, you know, the big question here then

becomes, yeah, the intent, the premeditated nature of, you know, the actions on trial here. And I don't know. I mean, I guess before we hop into the nitty-gritty, what's your feeling on this? I mean, do you have a general just gut sense or assessment? I think it's really hard because there's no version.

There's no reality where we know all the facts. And it's really a difficult thing to assess that. And that's why I think the deliberation went for five hours. Because it's always, these trials are always really messy. with one side trying to make the other look as bad as possible. And that's like the nature of how you do trials is you try to make someone, you defame someone's character as far as possible,

and then you go back and forth. And I think this is a no-win scenario because now we basically get a woman who will always be known as this and a man who will always be known as this. And regardless of either of their other talents, this is just all of the details that we'd never have otherwise. So I'm glad that it doesn't seem like the premeditated element.

was seen as guilty. It doesn't seem like this was something that was a thing that wanted, anyone wanted to happen. It does seem like, you know, violence did occur. I don't think, I see a lot, I mean, the internet's a gross, gross place. I'm pretty vocal about that. What do you mean, Koi? But the fact that you have, you know, people just immediately on one side saying,

well, of course he did it. And people on the other side saying, of course he didn't do it because there's footage of him running away from her. We don't know anything. So on one side, there's the audio of him basically comparing her to these really strong, powerful women. That was definitely manipulated aggressively to people making fun of him for it. And yes, it's a silly thing to say. But he was basically, you know, saying, like, I'm a great man.

I want a great woman behind me. And then that turned into, like, people turning him into a monster about a statement that wasn't necessarily true. but again, you try to defame someone as far as possible. Then you've got the footage from running away. So everyone assumes, like, well, he couldn't have done anything wrong. Why would he be running? But we don't know if, you know, he's trying to get away from the situation because he realized he did something wrong.

We don't know. And we can never know. So this long rant to basically say, what I'm glad of is that he doesn't seem to be someone who premeditated, attacked her. It was something that happened in the throes of a heated argument. And that is what he's been charged with is something happening in that moment. I don't love is that, you know, it seems to be an actual act of violence. Like, this is

someone who I really respect as an actor who I, you know, enjoyed the work of quite a bit. So it's always shitty to find out, you know, someone you respect and admire is capable of something that has apparently occurred. Yeah, and I mean, people in the chat are sounding off right now basically saying that Marvel has now officially fired him. I'm pulling that up just to verify. But yeah, I mean, I, I certainly believe

that that would be the next yeah I mean discussing film has it roll yep Marvel yeah Rolling Stones reporting it deadline yeah I wonder if there's a particular statement but I mean I guess you could have seen

you certainly would have seen that coming at the very least and yeah I mean this whole thing to me has seemed like a pretty messy situation because in a different way this almost reminds me of what happened with Johnny Depp and Amber heard

in the sense that there's clearly, I don't know, there's so much really strong opinionation on both sides of the evidence and obviously all of us out here that the Johnny Depp trial was majorly, you know, publicized and we got so many glimpses into that and there was video and all that stuff. But what seemed to be happening there was, you know,

regardless of which side you, a lot more of the blanche, to you have a situation where it seems like two people are in a toxic situation that isn't good for the either of them and that's kind of this is just a subjective opinion but that's kind of the vibe that I have gotten from this thus far because it doesn't really all of the evidence I've heard hasn't really made anybody seem particularly great or shun a light of you know innocence directly on anybody and I mean I do at least you know again we're just two people at home keep it up with the news or whatever but it does see only reporting on it because of the people that would ask over and over again I'm not thrilled about this no

I mean I haven't been sitting here rooting for you know find him guilty or whatever I didn't touch the major I mean you bring up a Depp and Amber heard I intentionally never say anything about that because I think they're both really shitty towards each other in this case pun intended but I don't think unless this related to what we do cover on the channel it's it's any of our business but this is effective the business that we do discuss but I do think that people want to villainize people

I think people get very excited to feel better than other people so they like to kick people while they're down so I think that the Depp heard instance is a great example of people celebrating awful shit and I think it's gross yeah yeah and I mean

you know I find it interesting that there are still a lot of people out there who are you know completely on the side of like oh no he's he's completely in his he's framed. And yeah, I mean, there's a lot of evidence that is kind of strange and hinky that does support some of his side of the story. But to me, just given all the different messages that we've seen, you know, leaked out and whatnot, and the attitudes on display, it certainly seems like there is some level of toxicity and narcissism at work here. Some people

in the chat have brought up, you know, some of the abusive behaviors that he has demonstrated in maybe a controlling fashion or whatever, again, through some of these messages. The text messages were pretty awful to read. Pretty harsh. And, yeah, and I mean, not going to get into all the nitty-gritty details, but certainly there seemed like a bit of a back-and-forth in terms of codependency, threats of certain kinds of harm that are not the obvious kinds. And, yeah, this seems like a pretty harsh situation all around to me.

And I can kind of imagine, I mean, it took, what was it? It was six jurors. After four hours of deliberation over three days, a six-person jury reached a verdict in the trial. He was accompanied by his attorneys and supported by his now girlfriend. Megan Good, family members found guilty of two of the charges and acquitted of two others. So we have till February the sixth to see if he will, you know, be sentenced to jail time, which could be up to one year. but yeah this whole thing

has really been kind of harsh and ugly to follow because again I do think that there is a bit of zealousness to pull one of your favorite words in basically taking any hole in the prosecution

side as just proof of complete innocence and I think that's the tricky and difficult part of any one of these types of situations is the fact that to me I'm sitting here yeah just it's as I said before

to me this seems like a toxic ugly situation these two people maybe shouldn't have been together I'm sure there were things that drew them together but you know here where we've ended up

it seems like it's brought certain aspects of this person's character to light and there have been other people and again it's all hearsay we don't know there have been other people who have corroborated at least some of these manipulative and controlling

behaviors from majors but yeah, the whole thing, I would agree, is disappointing because, I mean, yeah, it's been really fun and enjoyable to watch his star rise. He's a terrific actor, most certainly. I'm very curious to see what happens after this because, again, you know, he's going to be let go of Marvel

at the very least, but I wonder with this amount of, you know, doubt in the court of public opinion whether or not, you know, he will be just completely shunned from Hollywood or whether in a couple years he'll start popping up in certain things again all any number of people who have been sort of canceled out of society

and I mean that's a good question so says guitar I hope I said your name right just will like I'll put it to you guys in the chat you know after all this is said and done if he serves whatever time is allotted him you know would you be back out there searching out his performances and looking to support

his movies or are you kind of yeah are you sort of done with them from now on and yes Larry Reid I'm glad you're in here for the real important questions Rebel Moon we'll have some thoughts on Rebel Moon in a few days don't even worry and I'm curious too because I've heard it said and I don't know if this is true but I've heard it said that the Marvel contract involved a scenario in which only majors could play Kang but at the same time now I'm like if this is if there's a legal for dissolution, would they have to stick to that or anything? Because, yeah, at least as of deadline, a studio rep has confirmed that they are not going to move forward with majors.

So do we get a whole new Kang or do we do the, you know, rumored switch over to a Doctor Doom or something like that? I think no matter what this kind of establishes, Secret Wars will probably clean up continuity in a stronger way that it might have originally. I think they're already calling Kang Dynasty of Enders 5. I think basically it's going to be I mean I think it was always going to kind of be Avengers versus the X-Men I think now it's going to be Avengers versus the X-Men in a very different way like a bigger

way I think Deadpool is not done shooting and might tweak the third act a bit as it goes into Secret Wars we always knew that Deadpool was going to go directly into Secret Wars I think now it's going to move certain things up I think Doom was always going to be the one who

took over the king the idea was always to me obviously that it was going to be Kang being a whole phase of Big Bad that Doom easily usurps, and thus making Doom such a powerful villain that you're like, oh my God, he took out the Big Bad. But now I just assume

that's going to be a little earlier. I don't think they will recast Kang necessarily. I think Marvel's in a really tricky spot because, you know, Daniel, Destin Cretton, no, Destin, Daniel Correston. The D's the D's. I think that Dda, da, da, da, is

off of Kang Dynast. which is now Avengers 5, but he is doing Shang Chi 2, but you've even got things like, you know, Simu having, you know, Achilles surgery. Like, the Marvel Universe has been in a really tricky spot because their number one martial artist got literally Achilles and then you got, you know, this horrible

situation. We've got so many things that have about the 10-year plan. So I think they're in a, how is that spin? I'm giving fact. I don't understand people cheering for anything in this. There's no good here. Yeah, but... And it's interesting to look in the chat. I mean, I feel

Like, we typically have a pretty positive comment section here, but I do see a lot of, you know, direct support for Jonathan Majors, but moreover, some mock, like, if we can discourage one thing, I don't want to, you know, come in and mom you guys, but let's at least be respectful, even if you don't see any of the validity of, what's her name, Grace Jubari. If you don't see any side of her story, you know, everyone's perspective is their own, but let's at least be respectful in here and let's not

fly off. I saw one comment like, oh, you can't be a victim and a strong woman at the same time, and there's only two kinds. Yes, you can, and this whole thing is pretty ugly, and I would at least encourage you guys to entertain the idea that we wouldn't be in this situation completely flippantly, or at least that's what I hope, and I guess anything can happen, but let's at least be respectful of the moment. And yeah, regardless of whether you think Majors belongs in jail or whether you think he's completely innocent,

let's at least let's keep it above the level here in the chat. If you want to go off on some other message board and talk some shit, that's your choice. There are plenty of people making plenty of videos that are all of the inane commentary you want. There are people making, people bought houses

off of the Johnny Depp Amber Hurd trial. There are plenty of people on YouTube. Go there. It's waiting for you. People are profiting off this. Enjoy those people. Find your gross little pockets, but not here, because that's not what we're doing.

We're giving news about a situation that sucks for everyone, and we're talking about how that's going to affect the thing we do talk about on this channel, which is movies. This is the real rejects. This isn't the gossip channel. This isn't TMZ.

This isn't, we're trying not to be culture vultures. This is the absolute last thing I wanted to do with my Monday. I don't need to read your drivel. It's okay. I mean, and big love and respect to the guys in here to all of you guys in here who are keeping it above the level and you know being respectful

at the very least and I mean yeah if we're going to sit in here and be like oh you know it's the big the big looming ghoul of feminism go home like there's a lot more complication to life than simply that and I feel like if this was a complete

flippant thing they wouldn't have spent as much time as they have you know they wouldn't have spent as much time as they have corroborating things and you know the the jury that they got had to deliberate quite a bit from what I understand and you know took a good amount of extra time in reviewing the facts of the case obviously they have more facts than we do so yeah I don't care about your opinion and Eddie Tucker you don't matter to me right now he has been found guilty of assault in the third degree and harassment in the second degree

So that, and to clarify, once again, that's assault without, it's assault causing reckless injury, but not with the intent to cause injury. The ones he was found not guilty of was the assault in the third degree with intent and another aggravated harassment charge. So, I mean, the situation that happened in this taxi, truck, whatever it is, certainly seems like

the most dubious because, yeah, we'll just never see inside that car. We've had the drivers accounts to deal with, and then, you know, beyond that, we have, you know, surveillance videos from the street. But, yeah, this whole thing is

I would say nuanced, and it would at least be good to... And I think that's why the trial went the way it did. Like, I think the reason that it didn't get all four charges is because it's nuanced. I think the reason that it wasn't completely innocent is because there are both sides being two a point at fault, but again, like I said, at the top, this is two people trying to make

the other look as bad as possible because that's the way trials are done. Yeah, and I mean, again, at least from where I'm sitting, it doesn't seem like anybody is completely innocent here, and I know that from the accounts and from, again, certain conversations we have been privy to, you know, Jonathan Majors, he's clearly got the means to defend his status and his reputation and whatnot, and I don't know, some of these backs and forth. It's like, yeah, especially that one that's been sort of twisted around of him talking about all the, you know, sort of famous figures that he aspires to be like, you know, I detect a hint of narcissism there, but maybe not. I mean, you've got to aim high, but I can also see how this might be a person who isn't completely aware of, you know, the use of his own power and status and whatnot. And I don't know. I mean, here, we can go into some more of the facts here. Testimonials and allegations during the first four days of trial, Jabari testified that Majors injured her while attempting to snatch his phone after seeing a text message, allegedly perhaps from some other woman, you know, and the charges

here directly relate to this alleged incident in the car. So, I mean, there's been a lot of other stuff brought to light, and I know that there's debate about what kind of character-based evidence is admissible and or, you know, should be taken seriously in a case like this. On the defense and prosecution strategy side, you know, the defense argued that Majors was preventing Jabari from running into traffic while the prosecution approached the case as, you know, your more straight domestic violence situation. The defense questioned Javari's credibility, suggested she was seeking revenge, which, you know, is well documented, especially on message boards and whatnot. And John Boyega, Tori got brought into the convo and people started talking about recasting Kang. Yeah, I've seen yourself. I've seen Ron Boyega.

I was saying, yeah, yeah, it'd be great. But I think he's still happening. Oh, I mean, he can be both. I mean, what if the character is a variant of K? Yeah. And I mean, you know, it's, I mean, yeah, and people are saying there's, there's literally video of him hurting her at some point, which I have, I've seen the video of him running away from, you know,

down many blocks. Creates her training at work. Which, I mean, yeah, that, that whole. thing seemed like sort of we're in the midst of some kind of heated altercation and I just want to get out of this. But again, that's something we don't know details of, right? If you've got someone running away from something, it could be like, I just messed up and I realize it, I'm running away. Or it could be, she's going to do something to me. I need to run away. We weren't there. And that's what I think is so messy about releasing that footage. And of course,

it's TMZ and people like that that do it because they want this conversation. Yeah. And I mean, you know, from the prosecution side, Jabari's attorney, Ross Kramer, has expressed satisfaction with the verdict and highlighted Jabari's courage. The statement hoped the verdict would inspire other victims of assault to come forward. And I mean, this is one of the trickiest things to parse in terms of the law, you know, is these kinds of situations because so much does come down to, he said, she said, situations that are only going to be described and nobody has direct account for other than the people involved.

So I guess on that note, I would encourage y'all in the chat to at least, you know, be conscientious with your level of commitment to whatever side of this that you have committed to because I just, I think it's probably foolhardy to assume that

just any one of us rando normal people knows intimately what has been going on. And absolutely Amanda, Jay Washington for Kang all day. So, yeah, trial observations majors who attended every day of the two-week trial did not testify and remain, you know, mostly stoic, emotionless, except for during the closing arguments, closing statements. And the defense argued that, you know, Jabari was the aggressor and suggested that she injured herself after revenge partying there, those videos out of her after the alleged incident, you know, in a bar of some kind.

evidence included surveillance footage and photos the prosecution's evidence introduced texts and recordings between the two of them alleging a pattern of abuse the evidence was intended to show Major's character and potential for committing the alleged crimes and I mean that's the thing about this case for me

and yes I believe the writer's strike and the act of strike are both over they have voted right yeah it's been fully ratified so it's done we are up until two and a half years from now we're working so everyone's back it to work. Everyone's good. And this is the longest, like, I think, in the holidays we've worked

because of it. I think we're going back quicker. Like, usually L.A. shuts down for like two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah, I mean, that's a thing for me. This last bit that we just read, you know, the evidence that they introduced, you know, intended to show a potential for, you know, the capability

of committing these acts and whatnot. And I mean, that's the thing. I don't know exactly none of us do what happened that day. But it does seem like the potential for this to be a toxic relationship was there and certain of those behaviors

while maybe not all illegal certainly don't ring very well so I don't know that has been a lot of my inspiration to kind of keep an arm's length from any solid I don't know

from choosing a side too heavily yeah yeah yeah because again it's like There's a lot of, and from what I've heard about, the actual proceedings beyond the information that we know, you know, there's certainly strange and hinky details regarding Jabari's story. There are strange and hinky details regarding major's story. And, yeah, I got to feel like some tangible thing exists in the middle of that, even if it's not exactly what we're seeing or hearing at the moment.

Where there's, I hesitate to say, but where there's smoke, there could be. fire. And in the Manhattan DA's statement, the district attorney Alvin Bragg emphasized the trials focus on survivor centered justice and the pattern of abuse and coercion identified in Major's case. And I mean, that's something, again,

looking at some of those text messages about like, oh, you know, don't worry. I'm not going to tell people about what really happened or whatever or, you know, oh, I'm going to downplay whatever this, you know, injury was and whatnot. Like those things certainly

read like codependency and not wanting to anger somebody that you might be a bit afraid of. And I mean, A, I mean, and people are saying like, you know, I mean, this isn't to say, I mean, again, I brought up Johnny Depp and Amber Hurd partly because, you know, this guy says, she was clearly grabbing him and she even took his phone and hit him with it and wouldn't let him leave. I don't know. And that's the thing is I brought up Johnny Depp and Amber Hurd partly because that situation certainly seemed to me, given everything like, even if you have your opinions about who is more of the innocent or the aggressor in that situation, it seems like abuses happened back and forth either way. So, you know, you can be in a situation where, yeah,

maybe she was attacking him that particular day, but it also seems like there's more to it than just Jonathan Majors has a severely abusive girlfriend. You know what I mean? No, I'm not trying to victim blame at all. I'm just trying to say that we are not there for all the details. And certainly, I am the kind of person, if you want, like, a, you know, transparency. I am the kind of person who, yeah, is more inclined to side with a survivor, you know, somebody in Jabari's position, certainly. However, again, you look at the Amber Herd trial. That's somebody who at first I might have been inclined to be like, well, I'm, I'm,

until her account is proven otherwise, I'm kind of suspect of the other side. But also that went to show us that two people, and the thing is life isn't cut and dry, two people can have abuses toward each other. And you and I are both, like, Johnny Depp fans. Like, we both, I mean, like, Hunter S. Thompson era, Johnny Depp is, like, so formative to my movie-going experience,

and Hunter's absolutely a literary hero of mine, but I think it's important to look past the hero on screen and look at the evidence as best you can. And again, that's what's hard about this is asking 70% of the chat, what they think, is they make decisions not based off any actual evidence because we don't have enough evidence. You have to go with what you do have, which wasn't much.

Obviously, you know, it does look like there was violence and that is what you have to look at, not at how you perceive the person. And if she said that he never attacked her before this incident in court, then that's good to know. I mean, being attacked at any point is probably not good. But, yeah, I don't know. I mean, clearly, we're not all going to agree in this chat. But, you know, I appreciate y'all weighing in at the very least.

And we do have a couple of super chats. Let's jump over there real quick and see what y'all have to say in there. Isn't this just the most fun way to start the week? It wasn't the Greg's anniversary, and he didn't ask me, dude, there's no way. This is like the DMV. This is just the word, like, I'm a wire. Like, I love you. I love you, Coy.

And I love the DMV. I love the DMV. I love the DMV. Well, let's jump into the direct thoughts of y'all, the peeps. And let's enlarge this window, so it's the right size. There we go. All right. All right. Thank you guys again for showing up and for, yeah, and for contributing and just, you know, for airing out your thoughts and bearing with us as we talk about this awkward, difficult, weird situation that none of us civilians are actually qualified to be commenting on. But, yeah, let's see. Somebody asked, why do you guys think this happens at the height of someone's career? Well, I mean, that's, in a lot of generally,

In general situations, I would just say that for some people, it's really hard to watch somebody who may have caused you this distress and pain rise to the top and be hoisted onto a platform and be celebrated and adored by so many people. I don't know. There's so much made about the time in which things get reported, and it's one of the most unique and horrific kinds of experiences you can report to anybody and share it with people. So to be as transparent as possible, I think on one side, it's someone hoping that the reach will get actual awareness brought to something if that's the case, whether that's them being duplicitous or them being like, I need to get out of this. So I need to make it public because something horrible happened, either one of those things, or it's because there's a lot of pressure when you're doing well. Like there's a lot of pressure when you're doing 18 hour days and you're having to do all of this press and you're running around and maybe that's when you snap. So either it's because of someone thinking this is the best time to get awareness on something, or it's something to deal with someone's mental state because of pressure.

It kind of makes sense to happen at the height of something for a lot of reasons. Pressure makes diamonds, but it also makes explosions. So it makes sense. Especially if you're, yeah, I mean, if you are living some kind of life in which you are trying to conceal and or crush down, or maybe you're not even fully aware of your behavior, yeah, like when you're at the pinnacle and you have all these opportunities like, that's a stressful life that's a lot going on like you said but also people get sloppy people slip up all sorts of things can happen and I mean the more you have to lose I got to imagine you know the more tense and and sort of I don't know I think that can do things to your mindset

you know when you have so many things to manage and you've got a status and you have you know risen to such a place you know I think people are often fearful of losing that obviously but yeah there's a lot of interesting chatter going on in the chat but let's see what the supers have to say stephan thank you for joining us thank you for sharing your thoughts on the funnest day of the year hey guys i listened to the live stream playbacks on my night shifts oh that's awesome thank you john coy and gregg for everything you do love you all and happy holidays love you and that's amazing yeah i mean you know we got our podcast that we listen to on late nights, and if we can do that for any

of you guys, I mean, that's it makes me happy. Hopefully they're more fun than this one normally, and I appreciate that, I guess. Yeah, we can get you through your shifts. You're here for this one in real time. Yeah, don't worry. Next shift will be much nicer. Isaiah

Macias, I hope Marvel Studios, and thank you for contributing, especially again, this isn't the most like upbeat, you know, reason to jump in the chat, but a very much appreciate you chiming in. I hope Marvel Studios simply has Jonathan Major's state a public apology and have him remain as King since he has found guilty of two unintentional charges. And I mean, I'm very curious

to see what becomes of this if he does do jail time. Because yeah, I mean, at least again, as of the verdict, they convicted him only of the, you know, non-premeditated versions of this. I mean, which is its own kind of trouble, you know, arguably, ideably, everybody should have enough self-control, you know, to try and, you know, not find yourself in a situation like this, but, you know, everybody's different. I don't foresee this happening, quite honestly, because, again, the details of the case are so heavily debated, and this is just going to follow him for the time being anyway, and the trouble is that his star, I think, rose in a way that when he was announced, you know, as Kang, I feel like that's, people had seen Lovecraft Country. People had been buzzing about this guy. But when he became Kang, I have to think that that's when most of the broad swath of the populace kind of found out who this guy is. And, you know, having him, yeah, like having, uh, yeah, like having, uh, the,

this person tied so specifically to this brand, this universe, this character, I feel like it would be hard to go about it this way, doing some kind of apology and then, you know, letting him continue on. I don't know if this necessarily means that his acting career is over after whatever time gets served or after whatever is paid for. I don't think he'll serve time because of the charges that actually were guilty. I honestly think maybe probation personally. I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. but I don't I don't I mean obviously Marvel's already fired him but he hadn't at this point of this is like our second Super chat so this was not through yet but he doesn't work for Marvel anymore

that said with these charges I don't think personally I don't think it'd be jail time yeah yeah I would be I guess somewhat surprised but yeah I feel like it's probably gonna be kind of starting from scratch and who knows what kind of public image rehab he's gonna have to do because too with Marvel and everything I mean he has certainly been the subject of just more and more and more of those kinds of

fun interviews and like, oh, here's 10 things I can't live with that. You know, like his star has risen, but also just his, you know, status as a public personality. Yeah, his own personality. And I it's always hard again when someone that you respect in both

the public persona and character persona. Like, I really enjoyed Jonathan Major's interviews. I really enjoyed his worldview, his perspective, all those things, and that definitely colored my experience of the trials. But as someone who has the responsibility of knowing that people are listening to my opinion, whether they're immediately judging it or not, I'm aware that my experience of Jonathan Majors made me want this to be innocent. And that's why it's so hard, because you come with all of your preconceived notions of what this person is, that you have to hope the judge

and jury are capable of separating that, how much exposure they have to him. Like not, most people, we're on a movie chat right now. If you're in here, you are on a movie chat. Most people, the average person, especially probably in a jury, has not watched hours of someone's interviews. So it's really hard when you do care about this actor,

if you care about their talent, you care about their work, to have any sort of removal of that when judging a legal situation. So it is a mess. And I don't think the charges will turn to jail time, but I do think this is obviously a giant shift in public perception that Marvel is dancing now. Yeah, and everybody in the chat has also been asking about, what about Ezra Miller, which is always a fair point. Yeah, I mean, Ezra Miller certainly should have been dealt with in a different way than they were.

Not, I don't know, it's weird because it's like Ezra Miller has way more alleged, you know, crimes under their belt. And none of, yeah, I don't know. There's no real, real good reason why, you know, Ezra Miller should remain and, you know, majors should not or whatever, you know. But Ezra's not still Flash. I think that, I don't know if people are assuming that he is, like, that's not a, I think that, I don't know. It is both two really messy public trials, but other than that, I don't know where things landed with the Ezra Miller trial. like I don't know where they are with all of that right now so it's not really I don't know I don't have enough data

gotcha yeah yeah and no more no more flash for Ezra and and two I do think it's that thing of like all these I think there is a hypocrisy I guess in the court of public opinion and the way it interacts with business because if you look at the rap sheet of alleged crimes from Ezra Miller some of them border on this territory

but there's nothing as cut and dry as like, oh, you know, you're this kind of abuser. I feel like it would have been much more swift in that sense if that had been the case. Again, trying to dance around some of these more sensitive issues because YouTube is sensitive.

But yeah, MC, no light. MC no light, I'm sorry, but this is pure bullshit. Appreciate your opinion? Appreciate you jumping in. I mean, you know, I won't say that there's nothing can be debated about this, but, you know, I don't know if I would say bullshit, but, you know,

to each their own, I suppose. Coiler Hair, thank you for chiming in on the chat. The text telling her don't go to the hospital due to the fact that he can't come to what she says sealed his fate. I mean, if I'm reading this correctly, I mean, sure, that's not really a good look if you're, you know, that's max of trying to control the situation yourself and that sort of leads you to think that, oh, maybe there is some kind of, yeah, guilt at hand. I do think the making it seem like a pattern not a single incident was what made this a different trial. I think the incident in the car is obviously what this trial was about,

but the text from months earlier basically saying, you know, don't go to the hospital, they'll ask too many questions, shows some level of repeat problems. So it's not, again, everyone on both sides of this seems like it's been a real mess. I don't know. I wasn't there. Same. I was there.

Just kidding. I know all this stuff. Masqueriz. If they fire, thank you, by the way. If they fire Jonathan Majors, then surely they will just keep Kang and have a variant that doesn't look like Majors. I'm very curious.

I don't know the exact details of the contract. I have heard it said once that he had some kind of stipulation in there that only he could play Kang. And I've been curious about that this whole time because there obviously have been certain characters in the MCU in the multiverse that we have seen portrayed by multiple actors, low-key certainly being one of them. Again, I don't know if some kind of intervening legal circumstance like this kind of renders that null and void,

because, you know, I guess I would imagine, and I'm not a contract law expert, but I would imagine that, you know, part of any contract rides on you being in good standing with the law. But yeah, you know, I don't know. I mean, certainly that seems like the easiest thing to do. And, like, the multiverse would give you an easy out in that sense. I don't know if it even makes sense, to be honest. The way they're navigating the MCU now is lots of damage control. Like, if you look at what they're doing with Captain America for,

adding six months of reshoes, which is effectively in a movie, if you look at what they're doing with allowing Deadpool to be the only movie next year to give people, like, you know, time to recalibrate and end down time for fans. to me it looks like phase six is damage control and the second half of phase five is is buttoning up as much as you can it doesn't to me make sense to keep the character of Kang um the way loki ended allows for that to be the end of Kang in a way um i do think it's a bummer for doom as a character to not have um the same impact opening of taking over the big bad because I don't think

that would make sense. It also doesn't really make sense to have the impact's work if you have a recast Kang be taken out by Doom because then you're just like, we just met that guy. Whether or not you know it's Kang, you're still going to perceive an actor as playing him, a new actor playing him, so you will have just met him. I also don't think that

they handled, you know, Kang that well in Ant-Man. So we've had really good Kang in the periphery. Not everyone watches Loki. Everyone that watches the MC movies don't watch the show. So the one MCU movie we've had of Kang wasn't the best debut as is. Like his scenes were great,

but the movie wasn't, in my opinion. So I don't know if Kang does go on. I think that might be why Destin Daniel Creighton left. I think that, you know, he had a plan with as planned MCU. And when that changed, he was like, all right, let's Avengers 5, you guys do your thing.

I'm going to make Shang-chi too sooner now. Yay. I honestly think that you find a new way to introduce Doom. You lean on the impact of the character and I don't know if I'd touch Kang again. Yeah, because the trouble is, yeah. Majors made Kang.

Like, that's the trouble is like Majors is so charismatic and so talented. That's what made Kang. I don't know if the character... Yeah, that's a very good point. Because, yeah, people are so tied to his name. And, yeah, it catapulted him into such, yeah, stardom certainly past all the buzz that already existed. Yeah, I'm not sure.

I don't think... Sorry, I'm also being distracted. No, scrolling through stuff. But, yeah, I think that's a really solid point, basically, that, yeah, he's so associated with the character now that I don't think people would be able to not talk about it if Kang is around, at least for a long time. If they bring in a new Iron Man that gets taken out in one movie,

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WhatsApp. Message privately with everyone. We're going to run through the rest of these super chats, but we're probably going to wrap things up in about 15, 20 minutes, people, unless anything crazy happens. But Gallagost, Andres, good to see you, bud. Thank you for joining in the chat. Hey, guys, unfortunate news on many ends,

but great seeing you both here. Love the positive energy you guys bring. Wish you a happy holidays and cheers. Thank you, bud. Appreciate you being here. Yeah, I wish it was on a better circumstance, a nicer occasion. But it's always a nice occasion to see your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Appreciate that very much. Joy being town, man, I'm jealous. Extreme Viper 99. Thank you for chiming in. Hey, Coy, John, and Greg. Just want to say, you guys inspire me so much. Real Rejects have gotten me through a hard year. Love you all.

Thanks for the laughs, lads. Absolutely. Thanks, man. That means a lot. Thank you. Yeah. It's my favorite content helps me through tough times. Times always seem to be tricky.

So, yeah, that means a lot. Nate Saunders. kind of disappointed. I thought he was a great actor. Absolutely. The whole thing is disappointing. I'm sad. The whole thing makes me sad.

I don't know. It's sad that any of this had to be the case. Whatever the truth of the matter is, beyond what we know. Yeah. I don't understand anybody who's like getting glee out of this situation. But Extreme Viper 99, thank you for chime back in.

Also, have an amazing Christmas, guys. New Year. Same to you. Same to all of you. Can't believe that we are already. What day is it today? It's the 18th. We got like... It's a week so Christmas, man. Week from today. What do you guys want for Christmas? Leave us what you want for Christmas in the chat. King Tut. If this has taught us anything, when you are famous. Thank you for contributing, by the way.

Stay away from any... Stay away from them crazy white girls. I know. Coley feel what I'm saying. I don't know about John. I mean, I love all kinds of people, man. So, but I'll be sure to stay away from white girls from now on. Although, I don't know. What ethnicity is that name, Jabari? Like, you know, let's dig deeper, you know? Maybe, I don't know.

White people of all stripes are crazy in their way. People are messy. I'm a crazy white girl. That's true. I've seen it. That's real. Yeah, you know, that's how we do over here. Luis Feliziano.

Thank you, by the way. What if season two is hinting at Thanos coming back? Could it be possible that Thanos returns? Not just what if, but also the Avengers Disneyland ride has been hinting at Thanos. I do think we get Thanos in Zero Wars in some way. And maybe that's a way to show the power of Doom, right? Maybe instead of Doom taken out, Kang, it takes out Thanos easily.

Maybe there's some way to leverage our emotional connection to how great Thanos was for, you know, know, two acts in the second and third act, growing into three acts, as a way to make that impact. So that could be absolutely a way to do it. But I do think we get Thanos at least a little bit in one of the sequel wars. Absolute vodka. McPringle, thank you for being here. Once you pop, the fun does not stop, especially with you.

Hey, dudes, cad, glad I could finally make it to a stream. Wish it was under better circumstances. You and us both, all three. Yep. Do you guys think recasting a replacement is more likely? Thanks for all that y'all do love from Jersey. Love to Jersey. Say what's up to Miss Marvel.

Yeah, I mean, we've trodden this territory over the stream of Fairmount. It seems like just pivoting to a different character is the most likely scenario. I just think it's cleaner. And I think, as I said a few months ago, but I think that the amount of re-retro-actual- Active tweaks is already pretty high, so I don't think they'd want to, you know, dig that hole any deeper with this phase five going into Fave 6. I think they're trying to get streamlined

and clean up things. Yeah, absolutely. They've got so many things to clean. And they have so many characters we've only seen once. One nerdy perspective. Thank you so much for being here and sharing your perspective. I thoroughly enjoy it when Koi says what we all want to. Thanks.

I appreciate that. You are the voice of the people. I just have a lot of opinions and, you know, you guys help those come out for better or worse. And all the in between. Corey M. Thank you for being here. Thank you for chiming in. Very glad the victim got just as she deserved.

Hoping the best for her. Absolutely. Majors needs to seek help and hopefully become a better person. Also true. I mean, if, again, I'm not going to. The continual disclaimer, we don't know these people. But, I mean, I guess the hope is always that through this difficult and highly debatable scenario, you know, hopefully these people at least have some cause to look inward and, yeah. I, yeah, I hope, you know, grow from the experience.

I hope both parties find whatever next phase of their life to be better than this one, because these people have been in court for months and obviously dealt with a really toxic relationship before the trial. so I hope both of them find their next chapter of life so much happier than this one. Absolutely. And, you know, I mean, it's about growing and, and, well, what's the word? You know, I mean, these kinds of things, yes, punishments are doled out. But, you know, you also hope that rehabilitation or growth is also part of the process, not just like, ah, damn, I'm bummed that I got punished. MC, no light.

Those 20-22 messages are heavily redacted, no context at all given. Not denying he was manipulative and narcissistic, but using those messages when they don't even pertain to this case is dangerous. And that's a situation in which, like, I'm looking forward to the legal eagle video on this. I learned who that was recently. Sure. That was a good journey for me.

Greg told me all about the S-S-S-Sniper. Oh, sniper world. And the legal, yay, and the legal of all that. Oh, boy. Attorneys at law. Yeah, and I mean, I don't know. I get what you're saying, and I know a lot of people have brought this up, and I know that for this particular case,

they were using a fair amount of character-based evidence to support the idea of whether or not this person would be capable of these actions. I don't really know enough to comment on the rules of that. All I know is it certainly does paint a certain character light. And I can see how that would be relevant to a situation like this. I can see how you might take issue with that as well. So, yeah, I don't really have a solid retort here. You know, fair point.

Brandon Jed, John and Coy, can be the new Kang Variance. Thank you for your vote of confidence. I think we would do a great job. I think we're what the people want, you know. Replace this guy with two white guys. Two of them. And they're like, Kang. They were like two halves.

Yeah. You can sit on my shoulders and we'll wear a trench coat. It's the only way it will be as big as majors. I mean, you know, you're getting there. It's true. It's true. Working on. Michelle, thank you for being here. And, yeah, appreciate. We're doing our best, you know.

I'm sure there are more reputable news sites, you know, for keeping in the loop with. But, yeah, I appreciate you being here. And I hope that we're able to at least, yeah, I don't know, bring some relevant perspective on this to your day. Straw Wilde, appreciate you very much for being here. I appreciate the community you've cultivated. Thank you. I do, too. I feel like, I mean, you know, especially in a live stream, you get every kind of opinion, but generally, I often feel like we have a very positive and a very upbeat comment section and just community in general.

I like more of rejectation than I don't. Absolute vodka. The good guy, the DA needs to be investigated. There's been too many cases of this nature and the others are suing for what they've done in the past. That's good to know. I mean, I'm sure that anybody who is delivered a verdict is going to, you know, try and appeal or, you know, if they don't feel like they have been served justice, you know, try and get some kind of alternate ruling or whatever. But if that's the case, I mean, I would have to look into this particular district attorney. I don't know much about them, but that's alarming, if true.

Alex Leif, appreciate you being here. Famous man breaks up with woman, woman then levels. assault accusations against, man, I wonder when I've heard this story before. Did they break up? And then she leveled the accusations? That wasn't my understanding of this. But I mean, I don't know, if you're

if you want to view these things as petty, I guess that's going to be your choice and I probably will not dissuade you from it. I personally don't see these kinds of situations as you know, the kind you would want to get into

flippantly. but I'm glad you understand nuance. I think it's important. You look at everything is black and white because that's how the world is. And that's a healthy outlook. And I'm sure things will go well for you. Always.

Let me go to the next one. Yeah, absolutely. I was just going to help. I was going to give you a second there. Aidan Wagland, his I am a great man rant, is so arrogant and shows how out of touch he is. Also love the vids. And Koi, I unabashedly love your Twitter take.

and how you tell people off when they're bitter about it. Yeah, the great man rant is an interesting one. I mean, certainly... It didn't bother me nearly as much as it bothered a lot of people. Like, when you actually listen to it, as opposed to reading the transcription of it, he was, I mean, obviously, an actor thinking of himself as Martin Luther King is a bold statement,

but the statement itself was about him saying he is put in the limelight, he is someone that is leading, and he is someone that is under all. a lot of pressure and as a great man he needs a great woman and in transcription again aggressively naive but anyone in the public eye anyone under a lot of pressure wants someone supporting them again i don't think that calling someone uh mart luther king as like a peer is a logical thing to do but i do understand saying like hey i am under a lot of pressure i need someone behind me i just do think

that it's a very manipulative tactic on both parties i'm under a lot of pressure i'm striving for greatness. Yeah, I'm representing people and I and I'm trying to do my best. Again, I don't know what led up to that conversation and what happened after that conversation. All I'm saying is that the actual rant itself bothered me a bit less, but I'm also arrogant as fuck, so I get it. And thank you. I'm trying to, for my own mental health, use Twitter less, but I appreciate that and there will be times I'm at 30K, when I want to get to 40K, I'll go on tirades again. And for now, though, I'm going to try to find peace, which is not happening

today. Absolutely. Yeah, I would have to, I need to hear the actual audio, I guess. Yeah, it changes a lot. And too, even on the transcript, yeah, it's in the amalgamation that it becomes tell-tale to me. Because, yeah, it's like I get it. And I understand that a lot of people in this position have to have a high opinion of themselves and enough that they will, you know, push and see their, you know, goals through and all that stuff and build the kind of life that, you know, he's trying to build.

So, yeah, like in isolation, I don't begrudge that. Right. So much. Jeff Carroll, got a few from you. Let's see how far we are. Okay, we're almost to the end here. So I'm going to close off the Superchats, and we're going to read the final few here. And then we will let you all get on about your day.

Let's see. Real quick, because we got to blow everything up. Here we go. Here we go. But, yeah, thank you guys for being. being here and for the most part being, you know, respectful and constructive with your thoughts and feelings. We do appreciate y'all being here and for, you know, again, if we didn't have y'all to chat to and to bounce all this stuff off of, you know, we wouldn't have a stream

at all. So I appreciate y'all for keeping us on track. And, okay, let's get back to it. Let's read the last of the Supers here. We do have a fair amount more than I expected today, which is nice, which is lovely. Appreciate y'all, again, for just being so supportive, you know, again,

despite how kind of icky all of this has been. Let's see, okay, so we were on Jeff Carroll, one of three. MCU is a tough situation that Kang is so important and so much groundwork has been laid that it doesn't seem smart to abandon the character, but they also might feel it safer to have a a clean slate, either to avoid controversy,

not confuse casual fans, or move in a different direction. Hope for the best for the MCU. If recast, my pick is Lekeith Stanfield. All love unrelated, but Percy Jackson in two days. Can't wait. I've been hearing a lot of great things about the Percy Jackson TV,

Disney, streaming, series, whatever that is. And yeah, I think, you know, you're absolutely correct. This is going to be a tough, either way, this is going to be tough for Marvel pivoting and a adjusting to this and yeah it seems like they have put down a lot of track under the Kang train but uh yeah i mean certainly to avoid controversy i got to believe they're going to have to go in a different

direction because uh i don't know i think it'll be way too distracted i personally agree i also think that the track they put under him is a bit rocky uh like the other's track but they also have that post credit scene that shows all of the majors as Kang so so it's hard to do if you're considering, and all people talk about it's post-credit scenes. They don't actually talk about the movie. So if one of the most important moments being a post-credit scene is the two minutes

where all of them are majors, how do you have that? And then also the messiness of the storyline and the way Loki ended allows for it to end. So I think it's a good move to end the Kang arc. But I also think, I don't know. What was the last thing? Sorry, oh, Lekeith.

Lekeith is my brother Voodoo, man. I think Lakeith's energy is, he's got this mysticism to him like there's this undercurrent of like he's got this knowledge that like he knows something and after a haunted mansion especially I feel like he'd be such a good brother voodoo so he that's it where he is for me

that sounds beautiful thank you Jeff Carroll for chiming in I'll take any Lekeith appearance in the MCU or otherwise the Orange Pill nurse thank you for chiming in the same media outlets that villainized him and Ms. Rep resented the facts from the case variety

we'll do an article on this on his comeback years from now watch you guys know my thoughts and variety yeah and that's only because they did used to be a trusted source like I really like variety seven years

ago and earlier they're clickbait like anybody else now I mean if you work in the internet you got to appeal to the worst as society that's fair that's why we're here on a month's what we do Extreme Viper 99 Kang next time baby and he's going to be in armor wars now

they're going to recast rowdy with Jonathan Major Nate Feliziano. Thank you, Viper, as well. Hey, Coy and John, Nate Feliciano. Thank you for being here. Love y'all, and all you do. How would you guys feel is John Boyega as Kang?

I mean, I love John Boyega. I will take any John Boyega in the MCU that I can get. I think in the chat, people have said that he has been shutting that down on social media. I mean, if I was treated like that by Disney, I weren't going to Disney again. Yeah.

Like, he literally had a character and built an arc, and I mean, I was shocked that Oscar Isaac came back. He would never come back in Star Wars, I don't think. I mean, he didn't even said as much. Perry asked him if he'd ever come back in the Disney Plus show, and he was like, nope. So I think he came back for Moon Night

because the story worked and he got to have a little bit more control. But if I was John Boyega, I wouldn't work for Disney again. Nope, noop, noop, Gala Ghost. Thank you for chiming back in, Andres. I will say it here first. All the Kang's introduced so far are scrolls posing his variants of Kang. wink. I think that would be very funny. Tons of like they reshoot the post-credit scene and then like

they use the frame they use but then just like they all turn into scrolls. Yeah. And then Nick Fury walks out and he's like, see, I delivered on my promise. I found you a home. I found you a place to live. And now you just got to show up dressed as this guy sometimes. Emmanuel Rodriguez. Thank you for chiming in. The Jonathan's major situation is very unfortunate and messed up. Marvel just have to break everything down and rebuild at this point.

I don't know. They're already in a position where they need to kind of do maintenance while driving the car. So, I mean, there's other stuff, I think. Like, the thing is, if they were in a great place storytelling-wise, I would be more concerned. But thus far, I mean, other than the portent that Jonathan Majors as Kang is going to be a significant part of the next, you know, two phases, these, you know, multiverse saga phases. I mean I feel like they have it is an unfortunate situation

and I feel like they're already rebuilding themselves anyway so while it's messy I would just yeah yeah and they've been sitting on this for months watching this they've had other problems to deal with Shavidee thank you for being here for chiming in Marvel really screwed

themselves with the Quatimedia post-credit scene and having Kang play every single variant also I love watching you guys yeah Yeah, and I mean, I'm sure anybody who's not you know, as plugged in but who's stuck around for that post-credit scene

will be certainly maybe taken aback when they never see this character again. Yeah. We'll see. Hey, Dan V-900. Thanks for chiming in. Appreciate seeing you as well. Oh, and somebody sent their first Super. Thank you so much. Yeah, there's been a few of those. Kiercy Clemens is really good in dope and great

in Hearts Beat Loud. Monarch, it's the writing and directing where she's charismatic and can sing. She's just a bland hacker, and it stinks. This is a random... Out of nowhere, Dan V-900. Out of nowhere, but thanks for keeping up with

I don't know if you've been keeping up with our Monarch reactions. It certainly has felt as though Kiercy Clemens is doing everything she can to carry the script that they have given her character. Those three leads on that show, man. I don't really blame the actor. at all, just like the way

they're written, it's so... Is it rough? It's tedious, man. It's weird. Like, there's a lot of cool stuff about... It's a... People really love the show. Okay.

There's fun stuff about it. I like watching it, but I do think that... It's one of those shows you watch where you're sort of taken aback by how much people are like, this is great, because you're like... Oh?

Because you're like, these... And I, and in the reviews for the episodes, we've bent over backwards to basically address it. Like, yeah, people aren't coming to any Godzilla thing or they typically aren't for character drum. But Godzilla minus one they can. But in the age

of Godzilla minus one they can. And also just yeah, looking at this, I'm like, oh, there's so many other storylines where like the tone and everything comes together in a way that works and this beat with Kiercy. Like Kiercy Clemens of the three present day timeline leads is I think the best performer.

Like she's always doing great work but like when the, it's always a matter of when the script backs her up Only on, like, episode seven have I felt that way so far. And Kiercy is exceptional in dope and hard to be loud. Kiercy's fantastic. I got a lot of love her. So, yeah, thank you for that.

Just a little interstitial. And all five seconds of the flash that she was in. Yeah. Gallagost, I want a fight club reaction for Christmas. You, I don't know, man. You never know. It might happen. You just keep your eyes peeled.

It might be just me lurking in the corner, watching him watch it. Yeah. I've seen it so many times and just being like, oh, did you catch that? After this, we're going to go fight each other out back. What do you know about yourself? I've never been to fight. Bucky Bar.

I mean, that's a fair question. See, that's one of those fascinating movies where I'm like, I get how this is part of the, you know, easy to misinterpret starter pack. Easy to, like, if you're idolizing this, you maybe got the wrong message starter pack. But at the same time, it's because there are certain details and philosophies where you are like, well, but that in isolation or that is a jumping off point is fair. It's almost like Archby Nuanced. It's, you know. Much like life. I don't think so, Coy should black and white this.

We should very much think this is one or the other thing. Nothing on the middle. Nope, never, never in nuance. Smash the like button, says Bucky Barnes, ATL. Give it up for Bucky Barnes, always holding it down, moderating the chat. Smash the like Coy smashes the weights. Look at that. Hugging those biceps.

Get after it, you lovelies. I'm very excited for a little time off for that gym. Just consuming calories. Just go to the gym. Just just gains. I can't wait I'm just gonna eat and go to the gym I'm just like it's gonna be

I think we I only have like a week I have like six days or we're not scheduled and it's usually like two weeks but those six days two a days absolutely very excited I love it

love that you're gonna be just like you're just gonna be a little tiny head on just a big old pile of muscles I'm gonna come back as a cumulus cloud in 2020 just want to reemerge I love that

Cumulus Coy Jason Fischel Happy Holidays to you and your, to you two and your family. Happy holidays to you and yours as well. Appreciate you chiming in. Thank you for the support. Happy, it is the holiday season.

As dour as the subject matter of this stream is, it is the holidays, and it's nice to have you all here. Moreko Schmidt, Uili, crazy, thank you for chiming in. Crazy to think that they had majors terminated, termination papers on standby. Oh, oh, you bet. I mean, they've had so many months to draft those up,

you know, they just had somebody on verdict days sitting with a pen and the shredder. You know, which way are we going? Yeah. So dark. Do not envy anyone in this situation. No. Marley Morgan, thank you for jumping in.

I kind of wanted Iron Lad. Well, you never know. It could still happen. You know, maybe they'll do like a little man thing where they see GI Robert Downey Jr.'s head onto a tiny body. Ironland turns out to be Kang. But in this version, he can't be Kang. I'm just letting you know that, well, Downey's not coming back either.

So we're not getting either iron. You never know. Laddie. You never know. I don't care how many times Kevin Feigey in the gang. We're not going to mess up the Iron Man arc. I'm like, well, what do you do now? But, hey, you know, who knows?

Maybe that'll be the way to introduce Kang later down the line a bunch, bunch later. Phase 19. Iron Lad shows up, different face. Or maybe Jonathan Majors is completely changed by then and he's back. Who knows? Pavel, thank you for being here. Greetings from Poland. Love you guys. Absolutely.

Oh my goodness. Thank you for tuning in. What time is it in Poland? It's got to be at least in the evening or middle of the day. It's got to be the evening for us. Yeah, so it's got to be the evening for you. Shivai D. Thank you for joining in.

Coy can read our minds. Love from South Africa. Damn, Poland and South Africa of the chat. Is that the Rand? Is that those? So I went to South Africa for a few weeks back in the day and I still have some, I think they're called Rand. the South African currency.

I stayed in Cape Town and then went out into the desert about five hours out of Cape Town for Africa Burn. Had myself a lovely time at Africa Burn. But the whiskey and the meat pies and the Vovachinos. The Vovacinos like a, it's like a chocolate

coffee smoothie is my like favorite food. Vovacinos in Cape Town. Much love to South Africa. Boogie. Also it's Marcus, Nicholas Cage's King. Nicholas Kang. But yeah, Shavai, thank you for, yeah, for chiming in. That's so cool.

God, South Africa, Poland, that's awesome. Dylan Walker, thank you for joining and chiming. Are the two words I tried to say at the same time. Will this be another roadie situation in terms of seamless transition? Nigeria, Australia, Australian. Oh, damn, dude. Giving some love to interrupt, but that's exciting. Absolutely, not bad.

Oh, that's one of my favorite things, just seeing the global map. of viewership and the rejectionation is broad. It is. It feels good. Dylan Walker, will this be another roadie situation in terms of seamless transition of characters? This one man was an entire citadel. How can we disconnect? Yeah,

that's kind of what I'm thinking, Dylan. It's not quite the same. I mean, there's that one great line of dialogue from Don Sheenel saying, like, I'm here, it's me, get over it. Just deal with it, I think he says, and I thought that was such a genius way to handle a recasting. I don't know if they can do that with a citadel of one

man playing a character across time and universes. It's also conquered time and I feel like they were trying to make that him fighting himself and the power of majors acting really made that a man versus man story. I honestly don't see how Kang could be someone else. Yeah, unfortunately.

Tieri Nogoyi I hope I probably butchered your name there. I'm sorry but thank you for being here. Jada Pinkett is Kang. Let's be positive. He'll recover. Oh, golly. you know in an alternating universe

where they're about to release scary movie six I'm sure that would happen and Jada Pinkett is Kang and then she literally shows up as Kang and scary movie six and the press tour would just be hearing about Tupac I would just be like

all right we get it you want to tell us how close you are to Tupac and I believe some of this she's still close to him he's still alive it's true he's out in Vegas Elvis is not dead

him and Elvis he just went home he's viving MC no light thank you for once again chiming in very generous today apologies if I came off is brash, being an AA man

in America. This just hit me a bit emotional. Thank you guys, and hope you both have a great holiday. A.A. African American? Sure. Yeah, absolutely. Well, and I mean, too, there is that. And I know that certainly African American men

are often subject to these situations where you're portrayed as violent or something along those lines. and I mean I guess I can't pretend that there's not any of that involved in this situation I guess I wouldn't

be of the mind to just attribute all of this to that right now but absolutely like I don't I don't take issue with people being emotional over this because it is a bummer it is a messy situation it does seem kind of it seems at least a bit tricky to feel like you have a cut

and dry an answer and so at the very least I mean yeah aside from the people being blatantly disrespectful. Yeah, like, I can't blame you or take away from you being emotional about this and any kind of heated feelings that might come from that. Because it is, I don't know, these things also force us to look around at systems in society, look at ourselves, look at, you know, people we know, you know, they're very human situation. And it does suck

that this character that was so well played by Jonathan Majors is going to be either dropped or retooled. And either way, that's a mess. And I can't imagine, you know, the people that are in the chat going like, well, yeah, when, you know, an African-American man calls the cops and then he's the one that gets in trouble, like, that sucks that there's an example of that. Whether or not this is justice, which I don't know, it does suck. There's another example of that. So this case or the case that's going to happen in five minutes or the time that, you know, someone else is assaulted by a cop in the next 36 seconds is shitty. And I'm sorry, it's deal with that. Absolutely.

And finally, thank you again, M.C. seriously and for you know being patient and and being at least open to the discourse that we've had here you know and not being flippant yeah oh goodness that chat anyway yeah I appreciate you very much and strong with the force closing us out with a high five appreciate you very much for the sticker for just showing a little bit of support and for showing up in the chat today guys this has been a fascinating turn of events I'm sure there will be more you know details or more discussion and whatnot and we have a couple months or like a month and a half now to wait until they actually decide what the verdict will be or not the verdict but

like what the sentencing will be so you know this isn't over yet but it has yeah been a tricky and and difficult topic of discussion and a sad thing to watch unfold certainly and and i think we all wish we lived on the timeline where this wasn't the case and we didn't even have to talk about this but uh but yeah he has been found guilty of two counts uh and again the the reckless kind not the premeditated kind which is you know i think of note certainly and uh you know you'll just have to wait and see what the rest of the MCU shapes up into because they have officially let him go it has been officially announced uh so yeah we'll see that's all i can say um but yeah thank you guys

guys for being here. Thank you for showing your support, sounding off, letting us know your opinions, and for the most part, being genial and respectful of each other and of us. Yeah, goodness gracious. Let's go do not this. Let's go do something else.

Aisha Kenya, Walter Chinchilla, thank you guys for being here, Andres Seha. Incredibly good looking Ugulizer, quoting one of my favorite comedies, Zoolander. You've seen that, but not, Brandon Poole.

I love. I love Zoolander, but I'm just saying. Just saying. I saw a Night's Tale, though. I finally saw a Night's Tale, yeah. Oh, dude, absolutely, Bucky. Thank you for being a part of our universe and for holding these chats down.

Very much appreciate you. Guys, just, yeah, be good to each other. Be good people, as Dead Meat would say. If we don't see you before then in live, because we probably won't be sitting on every, you know, filmed and edited video. Have a great holiday. you celebrate wherever you don't celebrate.

If you don't celebrate anything, enjoy the time off. If you celebrate everything, enjoy all that booze. And if you're sober, enjoy all that time with your family. And if your family is not here, enjoy the found family you've made and have.

And if you don't particularly like people, enjoy the quiet. But I hope you have a good downtime, and I'm very much looking forward to it myself. I'm especially aggravated that this is the time that people think I'm chilling for Marvel when I couldn't be mad at them sending us screeners on the holidays. And, yeah,

I'm not thrilled about any of, this happening, but we hope that we at least informed some of the more complicated details in the situation. And if you are someone who is in a horrible environment and this case, notwithstanding whether or not you believe this case went the right way or the wrong way, if you're in a relationship that's unhealthy and you should feel safe, hopefully can find a way safely to get out of it. And I don't want people villainizing this man or this woman to affect how you perceive men or women of any ilk and how you perceive the judicial process, how you perceive how you are being treated in life. So if you're not being treated well, get out of that

situation however you can safely. And if you are the type of person that was leaving the comments that we were dealing with, therapy. Because you're probably treating other people as shitty as you are treating us so just you know take care of yourselves love one another and have a great holiday i appreciate most of you very much yep absolutely thanks guys be well and we'll catch you on the next one cheers