The Reel Rejects - JUSTICE LEAGUE: CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS - PART 3 (2024) MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:01:02 More on them in just a bit. You got anything else to say before we do this? I think we should just do it. I think the crisis is here and here, and I hope we get through it together. Roll that bumper, man. All right, team. We're feeling inspired.

Starting point is 00:01:23 It's time. We are, we are boys. We are kings in crisis. It's about, yes. Kings in crisis right now. now and it's a perfect time. After this crisis, we land the plane. That's right, all right, all right.

Starting point is 00:01:33 It's a bird. It's, uh, get ready to sync up in a one and a two, who, who, and a three. We just did it. You know, we did. Infinite Crisis three for those you plan along at home. I was going to say, is there going to be like a post credit scene where they are, well, that's the new universe. That's our, it's the universe that they did for a bit there.

Starting point is 00:01:59 Now it's the new universe. universe does it have a new new name so just came out right yeah but i think that's like effectively what so this is the transition into jimmy guns yeah okay the dc i don't know if they knew that uh as certainly because that was creature commandos technically starting the dc u in 2020 is that this year was that last year last year late last 24 so this was 2020 it kind of does work and does the i actually need to go watch creature commandos outside of like q seeing those videos Yes, one should refresh my brain. Does the animation style depart heavily from this?

Starting point is 00:02:35 Oh, yeah, it's definitely not that animation. And also, like, we haven't met Wonder Woman and stuff. So it's definitely like veering. But it's going to be all one shared universe. And, you know, this is kind of a beautiful way to end that tomorrow verse. When I was going to say, this seems like then what? It would have been conceived around a time where they're like, I think the rest of the live action stuff is probably heading for a reset.

Starting point is 00:02:54 So we should do this crisis now. I could see that because 2022. I think they had kind of had an idea of what was going on. got not on the gun front but on the ending side so they were like yeah we need to do something yeah to address that this is likely going to change heavily and this is a way we can do that in an open-ended fashion in a cannon wing i was really impressed with uh with how much it covered in i mean obviously the three it was three movies 24 so yeah it was it was it was kevin conroy who passed in 22 so 2025 wow so this is does end everything right before gun wow that's impressive i wonder how

Starting point is 00:03:29 long, I guess someone in the comments could then enlighten us as to whether that was a line that was already in the can or from an existing episode. I mean, it takes years to anime, so it could have been. So I'm like, yeah, they could have recorded it. If that was the last line he recorded, that what an incredible. I know we did a video game or something that I think was released after. He did, it was it, it was a, wasn't it Justice League? Suicizer God kills the Justice League that, yeah, and they're serving us Apocalypse

Starting point is 00:03:59 war just down there man that was that was okay so i'll totally own part one and part two weren't as much my cuppa but like part three that was that was dope that was cinematic that was huge that felt like crisis um i am a big old fan of george prez and there was a lot of his art reflected there um i have not read crisis in so long and it's also a comic that i will totally admit that was like it's so dense and full of like such big ideas when you read that as like a 12 or 13 year old is not going to register as much. So I really need to reread it because that was really cool.

Starting point is 00:04:33 I loved its use of continuity and folding things in. I grasped the broad strokes as a kid. You know, like everything's ending so things can start fresh. And actually a comic I really love that I recommend to a lot of people before Superman was whatever happened

Starting point is 00:04:47 to the man of tomorrow. I kept telling people that was a... Yeah, that is a really unique story involving crisis where Alan Moore was able to basically write the last Superman story because it was the story of the Superman that was in continuity

Starting point is 00:05:04 saying like the goodbye and like what it would be to end Superman. So he got to write like what is canonically the last before crisis. It was like 1988. Back when he still deigned to acknowledge when he was like comics are worthy of existing. But yeah, I thought it was really interesting.

Starting point is 00:05:22 You know, I reread that recently for Superman and it was cool to dive in of this with that fresh in my mind that was uh that was dope i really liked uh crisis i really like the characters they chose um even exhausted that was cool yeah absolutely i would agree i mean this has been quite a journey and we have watched it in something of a spread out fashion also if you're if you're still with us thank you to the folks over at prepper for killing these highlight reel cuts these edits for all three of these movies and uh all of a bunch of our dc animated stuff in the past. Really appreciate y'all

Starting point is 00:05:59 and leave a like on the video. Subscribe. Hit the notification bell for more DC as we move through all of this stuff and we will get to some patron questions in a moment but yeah this was definitely a ride and a journey. It's been interesting

Starting point is 00:06:14 because I have enjoyed all three for different reasons and as we are shooting this as we established it has been a heck of a long week and this is a you know, a thick boy in that you are bringing not only your attention for the intricacies of this installment, but you also have to have the other stuff like kind of fresh in mind, I feel like,

Starting point is 00:06:38 especially part two, because part two has more of the like here and now of the situation rather than part one's, you know, abundance of setup. But yeah, like, I've enjoyed all three of these in different ways. I definitely got caught up the most in this for just, yeah, like the immediacy of, the fact that we're here these are the stakes it's coming the anti uh monitor is you know erasing wholesale it's it's yeah it's that thing of like we're doing this massive erasure or we can choose a lesser erasure that kind of yeah at least allows us to in some form exist which is like a really cool like it does fascinate me due to like i could only imagine what level of like insanity would have been happening just amongst fans

Starting point is 00:07:27 as this was like rolling out in comics for the first time and it seems like a type of story that would be especially unique to the medium which is really cool and fun and it hits different I think probably in a movie setting and I would venture to guess that this probably works best as like a big old binge if you really want to like either watch them

Starting point is 00:07:49 back to back to back or like on a three night run or something like that but yeah like i had a lot of fun and it definitely felt like this grand scope and scale i feel like as installments uh you know the the first one being so scattered like i it's weird i'm curious to see how i will appreciate this in totality because each installment has given me some different things that i really liked appreciated had a lot of fun beholding and watching and enjoying i really like this third installment i'm not sure how i would rank rank them as of now, but I feel like in some ways this, this would probably land at the top

Starting point is 00:08:29 or, you know, one or two. One for me. Sure. Personally. Like I just felt like this one was able to encapsulate the drama, the tension, the importance. Obviously, we had to do one and two to get to three, but like I do feel like the one and two's comic format serves those stories better, whereas there's something about seeing the animation that you grew up with that makes you feel the weight of.

Starting point is 00:08:54 them going away that was unique yeah um you know like hearing kevin conroy's voice it was like so impactful hearing mark hamill like so when they disappear there's like a it feels like a multiverse it feels like a different thing whereas you know i i think that's unique to three because it's the end of things it was cool to hear batman beyond's voice and like be like oh but like it it only two lines that's that's their line come but uh it didn't feel like you know an end uh because of the because the way the the writing so i really personally like three a lot yeah and i feel like you know it it it in a way will sound like a very obvious thing to say but it's like each movie gets progressively more focused the first one is obviously like all over the place yeah and the second one is

Starting point is 00:09:33 in several places and then this one is mostly kind of in one aspect of the situation now and it's sort of like as you get less and less things to jump to and it's it's interesting too because these are more substantial movies these definitely they hit different when they are like a full 90 myth same with when you go from watching watching a 42-minute-hour TV show to a 55-minute-hour TV show. Yeah, that really changes. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, I think they get better in terms of, like, the grand impact as they get more focused.

Starting point is 00:10:06 I would like to reflect and revisit because here and now, I don't necessarily feel quite as, like, overwhelmed in the cathartic way that I maybe felt when we watched Flashpoint, for example, or a couple of those other animated takes on the big culminate. event and I could see from watching it's like I really appreciated a lot of what they did here and I think the animation looks really lovely especially for something produced like yesterday but yeah I feel like I wouldn't probably say that this is my favorite of the big

Starting point is 00:10:40 sort of like earth-shattering event movies I agree with that I think Flashpoint still is that huge thing for me and then like the sequels we got with like Long Halloween Part 1 and 2 and stuff those hit a little bit more for me as far as a full big store but It's weird because, yeah, it feels like those ones, the long Halloween feels like, oh, they took this substantial story and they gave it the breadth of time.

Starting point is 00:11:02 Whereas this, even in three installments, feels like you're really jamming this, what feels like a hugely expanded thing into expansive for this medium, but also maybe not as expansive as just the story fully requires. Yeah, that's how I felt like I felt like it was good, not great. I felt like it was like, you know, it did feel a bit like big and full of scope. I personally enjoy the comic medium more for something this big that said I did like that it did use my nostalgia and use the characters and use those things

Starting point is 00:11:33 it is I don't know it's a really hard story to tell so I also want to give it its flowers for being impressive like it is insane that it exists and it's insane that this kind of lore exists for 80 years of comics that you have this culmination event and that it was able to be told you know

Starting point is 00:11:52 in a narrative. It sounds like Kevin Conroyd died the year this was recorded audio-wise. Wow. So, yeah, it really is something special. That said, I am excited that it did come out in 2024 so we can launch into a new era and have, you know, a new cohesive storyline in animation, which is what the comics used crisis for. Like every few decades, there is a crisis event, and this is the big, big one.

Starting point is 00:12:18 Marvel has their secret wars where, like, you know, they kind of folded in ultimate stuff. and they've, they've had that. And as a comic fan, it's cool because, like, I sit here and think, you know, in 20 years, wonder what's going to be the big event that changes all continuity again. Like, it's going to have to happen when things get, when you've got, you know, a writer or two every few years, continuity gets so messy you have to wipe it clean. That's what's happening in Marvel right now in movies. Like, Marvel movies are going to have to, like, figure out if they're going to wipe this slate clean with secret oars

Starting point is 00:12:44 or if they're going to navigate, you know, the continuity mess of the weight of things going into X-Men. Like, these things are important. And so I am impressed it exists. But as far as just animated movies, I did enjoy some of the other ones more. Yeah. And I mean, I will say that it really, you know, it dawned on me in a different way when it became clear like,

Starting point is 00:13:05 oh, snap, we are, we are flashing back to the end of the DC AMU, the Apocalypse War stuff that then transfers us into the tomorrow verse stuff. And two, looking back, I'm like, oh, shit, we did a bunch of the tomorrow verse just a while ago. So, you know, there is some of that that, that like now I am inspired to go back and be like, I wonder if I watch these in a much tighter tandem now, you know,

Starting point is 00:13:26 if they would hit a little different. But it was cool to be disconcerted for a moment being like, oh, damn, that's right. We were there for that. All that DC AMU continuity before they changed to this Tomorrowverse continuity, the fact that, yeah, within the confines of DC animated movies, they went back to a previous continuity and was like, oh, this is also a major part of this.

Starting point is 00:13:48 This is in a continuum, him even though these felt like they were separate you know with the way like technology is going it'll be so cool in 20 years we do this but like christian bail and henry capel like like use use technology to deage actors and have a giant live action one of these it's interesting i i've i've kind of gathered from just again i i haven't really looked at much response from the outside world to these but having seen every time you google it you know rotten tomatoes comes up and i get the sense that these were not generally super well received or at least lukewarm, perhaps at best.

Starting point is 00:14:23 I will say, like, I am very curious to watch these again in tight tandem. I feel like these for me are maybe instances of something that, like, you know, you watch the reaction back. It's like, clearly we were having a good time. I was very much enjoying myself. Oh, yeah. I was like, oh, this is crazy.

Starting point is 00:14:38 They're actually doing it. I feel like this sang more in moments probably than it does in totality. And it makes me wonder, too, because the Tomorrowverse is like shorter lived. Yeah, it didn't have as much chance. If this was also an instance of like, this isn't really the plan, but now we're doing it.

Starting point is 00:14:54 And we're giving it a lot of space, but also there's a lot to cram in here. How many are there in this list here? 54. Can you scroll down? I think it's 58. Okay, so, but Watchman come as a standalone after. So it's really 56. I've seen Watchmen, but we haven't seen Watchmen together.

Starting point is 00:15:09 No. So it's 56 in the narrative thing. I think we've done almost 50. damn i think we're like very close to completion yeah there are only a handful of these stand there's some standalones we haven't done which is cool yeah and there are a couple of they're like i know we haven't done batman superman public enemies which the audience has been very vocal about which i want to do i do too i do too in fact speaking of the audience let's uh let's get some cues from the patrons do it

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Starting point is 00:17:45 you feel about reboots and the start of new universes for both Marvel and DC in both the animation and live action space. With animation, it's much easier because you don't have to worry about actors aging out of a role, but with live action, it's harder for people to try and dissociate the disassociate the performer from the characters, like in the case of David Corrin Sweat and Henry Cavill as Superman or an even more interesting case of Robert Downey Jr. Having been Iron Man and now Doom, I was wondering what your thoughts are on how a studio could go about these kinds of things since in animation and comic books it happens so

Starting point is 00:18:17 often as a pattern for more storytelling opportunities and modernizing what could be considered outdated characters. That is a turkey leg. It's like a Disneyland turkey leg. Okay. Let's start with reboots of Marvel and DC

Starting point is 00:18:32 in both live action and animation. I'm very excited about I mean, you know, I appreciate that Marvel has built this thing that is currently ongoing over so many movies and part of me is like damn how how can you build this thing before you have to

Starting point is 00:18:49 like really wipe the board and reset everything and how momentous how you know different will things feel I know that sometimes oftentimes these are made to both reset things but also carry over what's already working yeah exactly a little bit of you will carry on which things we like

Starting point is 00:19:05 which characters who haunt yeah so I'm always excited at the prospect of something fresh I mean like you know we're we're I think right now witnessing it on a delay DC is rebooting and I think that's really exciting especially because I think James Gunn is in a fortunate position to have had a ton of time to observe

Starting point is 00:19:21 the attempts at a unified output of visual media and you know I'm excited to see what he makes of yeah we're going to have these actors do the voices for the cartoons and the video games and all that stuff you know Marvel has tried to do that and it hasn't fully worked

Starting point is 00:19:37 and so like I'm I am always excited to see it happen as much as I am also a person who's like give me else worlds give me alternate takes i don't need everything to connect um and so his dc seems to allow for that too marvel uh i'll just be very curious what leads to the ultimate decision to do whatever the marvel equivalent of we need to reset everything and and do a big dramatic like i feel like if they're doing that they will let us all know like oh this is the recontextualizing of it all and that'll feel like a huge moment and i just wonder what real life influences will inspire marvel to

Starting point is 00:20:11 solidify that choice because it seems like it's happening in a kind of gradual way tepid way at the moment it's kind of limping instead of like being a grand finale I think secret war should start to clean things up I don't think Thor wants to I mean Chris wants to play Thor for like another 20 years maybe another five like those things like you don't want people if you have an ending that can be big have an ending that can be big and like you at this point by the time secret wars comes out We're going to be talking like 20 years of continuity. And at this point, it'd be cool to have as much as I love Downey as Ironman.

Starting point is 00:20:48 If you're going to make them do, it'd be cool to have a new Ironman, be cool to have a new cap. And if you're going to launch a new universe and the X-Men can't be in your universe until Doomsday and Secret Wars because of like licensing and stuff. Like we just had the X-Men we used to have in this. I know the mutant thing was introduced in this Marvel and it would have been cool if you got it. But it doesn't feel like it's working. I would start fresh and have the X-Men, just new characters, new team, new, new, actors and also have new cap, new Iron Man, new, and like, I just think it's like this. you want a big, big event. And to answer your reboot question, I think it works if the story

Starting point is 00:21:23 and writing are good. This episode three, you know, movie three showed that with good writing, it is fascinating and interesting, but I connect to live action more than animation. So I like seeing the live action films and my association there are a little stronger. So I'd love to see something like this with a crazy budget with the technology in 15, 20 years where, you know, you can bring in the old guard and the new team and all those things where you can have, you know, those disconnects. I do, you know, I love that you bring up corn sweat and Henry Cavill. I think that's your next bit we should both talk about is, um, it is hard for people to disassociate and you do get attached. But then you've got things like no way home where people

Starting point is 00:22:04 loved having Toby, Andrew and Tom and they could see the different eras and all those things together. I think that's a very healing thing. to have you know all of them be regarded and i think that's what crisis could do with cavil down the line um i i think it's a specifically tricky thing with fandom because there's a possessiveness there's an entitlement and i think that makes people really claim things and it's not their story it's a story being told that they love so i think that you need to acknowledge the fans and try to tell the best story you can but not make decisions entirely based on the fans because then you're making decisions that aren't story-based, they're fear-based. So never let fear dictate your

Starting point is 00:22:44 decision in life or in storytelling. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think anything, yeah, that has the full force of passion and is well thought out can kind of be worked any way you need it to. And that's a kind of thing that I guess will, what am I trying to say? Like the individual piece will always be sort of like the most important thing rather than cowtowing or catering to some kind of grand overarching shared lore book um yeah like it's you know i think the further we get into these the more people will get used to you know we're just now getting to a point where we've had like a good multiple supermen batman spider men you know spider like spider like spider man's a younger example of that like in live action we've had a four or five maybe because i mean obviously

Starting point is 00:23:33 toby andrew and tom holland but there's like you know there was a live action something or other Spider-Man from one point in the earlier phase of history. Yeah, it was like a Japanese Spider-Man. Something like that. So, like, yeah, I think it'll be interesting because the longevity part is the hardest part and how do you get actors who, you know,

Starting point is 00:23:53 will bring their all to that and also not have to be pigeonholed as just that because that's often a thing that can happen, especially that's like a thing that's happened with Superman's, Superman of the past. But, yeah, I don't know. It's, I guess it also, has to do with how much you, it's like Downey

Starting point is 00:24:10 is very much you're grafting that guy onto this character who probably suits him but also, you know, like is very much this guy. And, uh, you know, it is also a question of like whether you get an actor who is bringing their essential nests or an actor who is building a character in playing that that is further from their home base or whatever.

Starting point is 00:24:31 Um, I feel like I've kind of gotten into the weeds. No, I think with my point and your point together, we've answered the question. Yeah. the last bit is just about animation lies we talked about that so uh kev b if you can pick any character from all the alternate earths to save the multiverse instead of the justice league who would you choose and how do you think their approach would totally shake things up um i'd have zatana be much more prevalent sure um i would have her or like magic and her insight and her her altruism okay uh i would

Starting point is 00:25:03 use more of the new gods uh like mr miracle big barda a lot of power there, Orion. I feel like that would shake things up in the hierarchy of power changing. I would have more of the dark Justice League, like Detective Chimp, like Swamp Thing. You took mine. Oh, yeah, the occult. And then John's going to talk, so I don't take any more. No, no.

Starting point is 00:25:28 I mean, it's funny. Swamp Thing did show up at the end. And I was like, damn, it would have been cool to see Swamp Thing because like the natural world is also big at risk and at stake. and we are largely cutting two cities or what were once cities. The green is in pain. And I think it would be kind of neat if an elemental force

Starting point is 00:25:47 of nature was a greater part of the answer to some kind of huge cosmic force. And then as a joke I was going to say yes, Detective Chimp should be way more involved. And Solomon Grunt. And my man, hey, my man got more

Starting point is 00:26:03 this than I ever expected. So actually, I'm good. Him and Spector both were here. I've always found that character kind of fascinating. So to have more, the both of them was great. Oh, do we really get any Catwoman in here would have been cool? I'd like to see.

Starting point is 00:26:20 I don't know what you really do, but. No, that's the thing. I was wanting to think of like big O.P. villains and heroes. Dead man. There's some dead man. I love Boston brand. It'd be cool of them to get some dead man just because. Just because plastic man, because I like joking. Yeah. I like yucks. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:34 I mean, like any one character. capable of just themselves saving the multiverse. I mean, that's a tricky one, you know. It's kind of a DASS. Machina. You know, you know, you want some two. I would have the writer come in. I feel like that is... And then continue in photograph form

Starting point is 00:26:50 as they just like scribble on everything and then draw all the characters happy. You got to read more Grant Morrison, man. I'm very excited. That is a great sales pitch. You got to read more. More. Say no more. Do it. Well, that is the end of this series of

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Starting point is 00:27:22 I definitely want to watch. Oh, Keseka. Sorry. Kesey was poisonous. Yeah. And Jimmy Simpson's green air. And shouts out to Corey still. I did have a great time with his legs and the back and forth. of like, you did this, oh, but you did this as like a part of the greater

Starting point is 00:27:38 plan to not do that. Okay, fine. You're welcome. So good. So good. And Aldous Hodge of Green Lantern. Yeah, not bad. But yeah, let us know the comments below. Definitely, definitely, definitely. Oh, Troy Baker was the Joker. Troy B. Oh, that's fantastic. And the Spider Guild Lantern, of course. Everyone's favorite character. My favorite character.

Starting point is 00:27:55 But yeah, let us know the comments below. I do want to watch public enemies, but let us know other things as well. And we will see you guys very soon. Thank you for joining us on this journey so far. and to the end of this journey of the crazy D.C. Tomorrowverse and D.C.A.U. What a time. What a journey. Thank you, Reject Nation. We'll see you soon. Wices.

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