The Reel Rejects - KINGSMAN: THE GOLDEN CIRCLE (2017) IS TOTALLY BAD***!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:00:55 Three, two, one. We did it. all right guys we just got done watching kingsman the golden circle if you're listening to us on apple or spotify please give us a five-star rating um like comment subscribe on the old youtube when you do ring the bell ring the bell that we're notified of all the videos we're dropping thank you to prep for helping edit down these highlights we super appreciate you now let's get to it i'm going to go straight to our questions for our patrons because that's going to feed into our review and then we'll give you more thoughts on

Starting point is 00:01:35 the movie. Let's do our first one. Jaden Rhodes. I said this in the first one, but I actually prefer this movie over the first one. But my question probably will be do you all like them including the statements

Starting point is 00:01:51 or do you all prefer if they just focused on the Kingsman? No, I like you know, thank you Jaden for the question. I like that they also focused on the statesman. I like seeing that they're, you know, here in America, there's another independent group like this, like a secret spy organization. I think it, uh, explores the world a little bit more, adds to it, adds to the world building. So I thought that was really cool. I like seeing the different personalities that we got, all the different actors we got. They all brought, uh, their energy and,

Starting point is 00:02:21 uh, just their prowess, you know, with Jeff Bridges, with Hallie Berry, even Pedro Pascal. He brought a lot of charm and swagger and then we saw that he was carrying you know a great deal of trauma behind everything you know was kind of a little bit of a facade behind all that that charm and gravitas that he brought to his performance and i know it was a little bit of a subversion of expectations too when it came to his performance and his reasoning for why he really turned on them in the end like this is all because of his girlfriend and two meth heads had killed his girlfriend and he had condemned Anyone that does drugs needs to be put down. So that's a very fascinating, you know, reasoning for it

Starting point is 00:02:59 because sometimes when you are so blinded by hate and vengeance, you can't see logic or reasoning. And I'm like, I don't agree with it. But perspective, I understand where he is coming from. But I really liked his performance. I like bringing all the new actors that we got. Having said that I really did miss having Roxy. I really liked the rapport that we got with her in EGZ

Starting point is 00:03:21 in the last film. I get that it adds heavy stakes and burden when you kill off some of them in the beginning like that and that means no one could possibly be safe but I really wish they could have found a way to keep her in the film even if you add those heavy stakes at the beginning so that would be one of my nipicks of the film but what about you Tara?

Starting point is 00:03:40 So I do think they needed to include the statesman so like I said when we first get that shot when they pick up the whiskey and he gets down to the bottom and he's looking at it I'm like wait what That's our K symbol that we see in that bottle, and then we see it again at the very end. So I think we need to see that relationship, because again, it informs us as like, where are they actually getting their money? How do they actually pull this off, like, over the head of, like, the White House, oh, the police, like, you know what I mean? They're a secret organization to where are they all getting all of that money and the support from.

Starting point is 00:04:16 So it was kind of cool to see behind the scenes. And so I do like them, including, honestly, the foundation of who the Kingsmen are because they work in tandem. So I liked it. All right. The ADHD Overlord, amazing name, by the way. I think people would use that to describe me. But we appreciate you being a reject for asking us a question. We appreciate you so much.

Starting point is 00:04:40 This movie really feels like it cleared the board simply so they could introduce more potential spin-off material. They introduced so many new and returning Sci characters that this movie feels more like a Hey, check this out. Could be a spin-off than a true sequel. If this received a spin-off, which three new characters would you have wanted them to focus on? Any particular characters you would have loved for them to focus on?

Starting point is 00:05:07 It says three new characters. So, Channing Tate... I mean, there's... There's really only three. It's Pallie Berry... Channing Tatum. Channing Tatum and Julianne Moore. well Pedro Pascal is one you could also go with I would say too I would love for them to do a if they were going to do a spin-off like with Jeff Bridges but I would love to see how the statesman got established but that goes it seems like it was way beyond Jeff Bridges character was he was like older generations right

Starting point is 00:05:36 but still would have been cool to see him in his youth and yeah or his younger like in his mid-20s whatever coming into becoming the statesman being like around Channing Tatum's age and then and becoming the head of it. Yeah. So that'd be cool. It'd be open to the idea if they ever wanted to do that. I think the statesmen really are a fascinating organization, how their incorporation of being an independent agency is alcohol, whereas the Kingsman, you know, as being gentlemen and tailor-made suits and all that.

Starting point is 00:06:05 So I'd be open to that. That'd be a lot of fun. Yeah, I think it'd be fun. And I sort of, when you said ADHD overlord, you're like, and returning, sigh. I like that there was a lot of returning characters, but that's just me because that's, again, like a sequel, what you're maybe saying is a true sequel would be like they'd have more new characters,

Starting point is 00:06:29 but I like the way that they went about it. Dan, V-900, I'm not a fan of this movie. I thought the humor didn't work, and Julianne Moore was over the top. I really didn't like how Roxy was killed off so early, especially with her importance in the first one. How did you feel about what happened to Roxy and the use of the cast? It's funny you say that. He literally just went over that,

Starting point is 00:06:49 that I wasn't a big fan of them killing off Roxy. Right. So how did you feel about the humor and the Julian Moore stuff? The humor for the most part honestly worked for me. I thought because of the tone this film was going, was going with that more bombastic cartoonish. We saw in the first scene, like when he did that flip over a kamikaze style, it's like, this feels very cartoonish and I'm okay with it

Starting point is 00:07:11 because it's setting the tone in the first five minutes. So when it comes to Julianne Moore, it could be hit or miss for sure but I liked what she was doing she was she was being deliberate with being over the top I think I like Samuel Jackson's performance a little more there were times where he was just extremely unpredictable and his humor just hit a little bit more for me but I just having said that I still really liked her performance a great deal she's a very menacing presence as well and I thought her plan was very fascinating just the war to end the

Starting point is 00:07:44 war to of fighting drugs that she wanted to do and just ending that fight and she wanted to be seen and heard so i thought it was fascinating i like valentine's plan a little bit more it hit it resonated a little bit more with me and i just that list nothing's going to beat that for me that that character trait was so good that also could have been hit or miss but it really worked for me so i would say i'd like samuel valentine valentine's performance a little bit more the character, but I still enjoy Julian more. Thought she was fine. I'd say that whenever you are looking at someone who

Starting point is 00:08:18 you think is like over the top, you can give it half to the actor, but there's also a lot to do with direction. So this movie was directed with a lot of that humor that is going to feed into a lot of their performances, meaning they're not just going to do that just off the cuff

Starting point is 00:08:34 and roll up to this set and be like, I make all of my own choices and that's it. She could have come with some of those ideas but you do have to look at it that that's a director's choice and producer's choice. There's a lot of money going into

Starting point is 00:08:49 that very specifically so I'm not I'm not thinking that she just came in here and it was like way too over the top right? I also think that Roxy the actor my assumption is either she's already busy

Starting point is 00:09:05 shooting something else I know that they probably did want her more involved. It does seem very odd to have pulled her out so quickly and not given her a chance to be in that. So I'm going to assume she had other work. So that's why she could only be there for that one scene. If that's not the case, it is a weird choice. I don't know.

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Starting point is 00:11:14 is a great underrated actor agreed and has been successful both in film and television streaming films and series both. Just curious, do you have a favorite performance of his in either film or television? Oh, I need to say that I think

Starting point is 00:11:30 that Taryn Egerton did actually play, I could be totally wrong, I'm going to look it up, did actually play Elton John in Rocket Man? uh film and he did a great job uh so i think that was him um and if it was i would say that's definitely a favorite performance and i meant to mention that while i was watching the film going oh that's funny that taryn and elton are here um i'm sure they maybe had a discussion about him i don't

Starting point is 00:12:00 know which one came first if this one came first and that's how they were introduced and that's how taren kind of got he did it was him right hell yeah so i would i would say that this all coming together hell yeah and i think that that's very very fun this was first this was 2017 rocket man was 2019 so yeah it makes sense to me they meet on set obviously worked together elton john is going to give his sign off to a biography based off an actor that he's already met that he's friendly with that he thinks does a great job Taryn already had a foot in the door. There's no other way.

Starting point is 00:12:40 Not there's no other way, but I think that that's very kismet in this business. You don't just have to be talented. You have to be very, very lucky. Yeah, for sure. I think that is a very good point. The fact that he's already working with him is like, hey, we have a great rapport. He probably understands me. I trust this dude to carry on what is me and my performance and what I believe to be true

Starting point is 00:13:02 and to present that onto the screen. So that's a great point, Tara. I've only seen Terne Hickerton in Kingsman 1 and Kingsman 2. Yeah. So if I have to pick a performance that I like better, they're both great. I like that he's very versatile in both these films. Yeah, he's playing the same character. But like in this film, for instance, he's a lot more confident and it's got more swag in this film.

Starting point is 00:13:25 But also, too, he's carrying a much more heavy burdens, right? He's lost Roxy, obviously with what happens at the end with Merlin. and then also too he's dealing with the heavy burden of for the most of the film or a good portion of the film he's lost Harry and he's dealing with that and it's very traumatic because he already lost his father earlier from the first film so and they had such a really beautiful relationship and he was his mentor it's like his father it's a surrogate father so I think Terran just does a good job in presenting then it's those silent moments those visual narration moments that you can read as a view of as an audience member where you can just see that he's burdened with that. It's heavy on him. And I think it's even through the confidence and the swag like there is a slight bit of facade

Starting point is 00:14:15 that he's dealing with a lot. And I love those are my favorite character moments when you can see someone is battling through it. And I think like the butterfly was such a beautiful symbolic thing of EGSI that he was kind of a little bit like a caterpillar in the first

Starting point is 00:14:31 film and Harry helped blossom him into this beautiful butterfly that gave him wings and we kind of got a little bit of a line of that so I think that was beautiful I'd love to see more Terran Egerton films if you guys have any recommendations that you think would be reaction worthy maybe Rocket Man or whatever

Starting point is 00:14:46 Jay Dell if you had to team up with the statesman said the Kingsman which gadget would you trust more to fight a weapon disguised as a whiskey bottle or a lasso that can slice people in half as much as I would want to pick the whiskey bottle for obvious reasons

Starting point is 00:15:02 I gotta go with that that lasso was freaking badass as hell the things it could do catching certain things in like catching stuff in midair and then cutting things in I don't know how you don't pick that as one of the coolest last I mean that's

Starting point is 00:15:18 that lasso is right up there with Wonder Woman you can make an argument it's a sicker lasso the only thing it couldn't do is make you tell the truth although I could argue if you show people what it can do it might make them want to tell you the truth without the Wonder Woman powers and all that the Themiscarat powers so I'm going with the lasso what about you Tara? I just

Starting point is 00:15:35 the whiskey bottle you can bring it anywhere it's pretty it's like oh yeah she brought whiskey great versus the last one you're like what the are you doing with that? Good answer Tara I like him Jay Rushden put up Jay question

Starting point is 00:15:49 would Taryn Eggerton make a good James Bond yeah he did great in this like he's he has all the vibes he done a lot of fight choreography for for this and worked with really great you know talented DPs

Starting point is 00:16:04 and a director so it's like he knows and has the background for it now and being in two of these films so yeah of course. Agreed I think what makes a great James Bond you've got to be charming you've got to be charismatic you've got to know how to work in an action sequence I think Darren Egerton has proved

Starting point is 00:16:20 he's all these things also you know I got to know how to deal in drama as well so I think he's the complete package he's very versatile so I would be totally open and down for him to do James Bond that'd be totally fine with me if they announced tomorrow or whenever Taryn Egerton is cast as James Bond.

Starting point is 00:16:38 I'd be all for it. Yeah, I love it. So ADHD Overlord does say that he thought Harry should have stayed dead. I wanted to point that out in his little, like, a second question, which I find interesting. And J. Dale gave us a little piece of trivia, saying that Channing Tatum actually trained with real rodeo excerpt for a statement role, but most of his scenes were rewritten latent production, which is why he appears a lot less. Wow. then was originally planned.

Starting point is 00:17:06 That would be super frustrating to have to go through all of that training. And then you don't do it. Let's face it. Real rodeo training is actually, it's very difficult to do all of that stuff. And then for a lot of that to be cut out, that would suck. I agree with you. I'm sure, though, the word got through the wire through many studios and just producers and all that. Even though Channing Tatum gets so much work anyways, that, hey, this dude busted his ass.

Starting point is 00:17:32 He worked so hard at the last minute. We rewrote his shit, but, like, he's a joy to work with. He works his ass off, like, hire him. He's good. He knows how to network, and he knows how to work hard for you. So I do agree. That's never going to be a problem for him. No, no, no, no.

Starting point is 00:17:45 I understand. I'm just saying, I agree with you. That would be super annoying. But I'm sure, like, the producers and the director said, hey, so sorry that happened. But we do appreciate your commitment and your hard work. And, like, that does not go unnoticed. Yeah, he was still paid the same. Probably didn't really matter to him.

Starting point is 00:18:01 For sure. And in. He trained and got the money. Yeah, and in regards to Harry, I do understand that argument. It was definitely a bit of a shock and surprise to Tara and I because we got shot through the eye. But also, too, like, if you make the argument, I don't know how strong the glasses are,

Starting point is 00:18:17 but he's in a secret spy organization. And Merlin did create those glasses. They were special-made glasses, so I could see them giving some line of protection. And they did come up with a reasoning that I thought worked, whereas the Kentucky crew in Statesman, they put that gel shit in you, they got there really fast.

Starting point is 00:18:35 I thought it worked. It gave EGZ some closure that he didn't really get in the last film. And I was fine with it, but I can totally understand people being not happy with it because of that it gave EXE a reason to have to fight and really push himself in the last film with what happened with Harry.

Starting point is 00:18:55 But I loved finally seeing them go hand-in-hand working together in the climax. I really wanted that in the last. movie even though it worked without him i love seeing that in this movie so i was cool with it and i thought the reasoning i didn't feel red con to me i thought it worked what about yeah listen harry coming back you know it's a bit it's a big stretch but we are in the spy business them having those resources to actually give somebody alive after a headshot um believable so it's not that much of a stretch it is a stretch i'm fine with it everybody loves calmforth in this series he's kind of made it

Starting point is 00:19:33 what it is right um so uh for egzy not to have this father role that's been in his life to lose that's great but that's why they gave us merlin merlin i believe is actually dead and blown to bits um and you can't really put him back together unless we get to the next movie and they've sewn him back up with the 56 pieces um merlin definitely was a bit of a father figure to him too he was a big part of that three crew so i think um they'll probably keep him I'm dead. For sure. Definitely.

Starting point is 00:20:05 Oh, no, I agree with that. There's no way to bring Merlin back after what happened. I agree with you there. I really enjoyed this film, the cinematography, the emotional beats that they hit, the action sequences, the cinematography, the music by Henry Jackman. There was a lot of stuff I really enjoyed. A lot of, again, the social commentary about class and just how they view, you know, us, the peasants, as they would probably say in their inner circles up there in the elites.

Starting point is 00:20:31 So I thought, and how the president just condemned. to anyone for drugs, be for political reasons. So I thought all that stuff was fascinating. Having said that, I thought the first film was definitely a little bit more nuanced, a little bit more complex, a little bit more focused, but I still really had a great time and enjoyed this one. And I love this series. If they did want to continue with the third one, I know that there is a third one in the series

Starting point is 00:20:54 called A King's Man, I believe that's a prequel. I don't think it's a third one to this film. But if they ever do want to continue with a third film in the sequel, I'd be successful. so down for it. And before you do final thoughts, I'm just to have a quick question for you, Tara, did you like the first one better to the second one? I don't really know

Starting point is 00:21:12 100% how to answer it because that last scene was also a oneer and I really liked the oneer in the first movie. Those types of scenes sell a movie for me because they just take up so much time and work. For sure. I think possibly the first one

Starting point is 00:21:29 had better pacing and it wasn't as long. which is a plus, although this one, it's not like it felt like a total drag. So I think both of them are good. I understand why there's people who are saying they didn't really care for this one as much as the first one. There's a reason why, you know, it's like just don't mess with a really great film. But in order to keep it going, keep the name going, keep the cast busy, and to make money, the company already had something really good on their hands.

Starting point is 00:22:02 there's no reason to not give it another whirl. So, yeah, if they make a third one, I'd be there and I'd give them my money. I thought it was a fun film. We appreciate you guys. Make sure that you leave your thoughts in the comments. Be cool, be nice, be kind. Go get your Reject Nation shop gear.

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The Reel Rejects - KINGSMAN: THE GOLDEN CIRCLE (2017) IS TOTALLY BAD***!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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