The Reel Rejects - LEGION OF SUPER-HEROES (2023) IS A TIME-WARPING EPIC!! MOVIE REVIEW!!

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Starting point is 00:00:26 One well we made it through the post credit scene after a lovely happy ending and now i am cast thoroughly into doubt territory once again like a nice guy i mean i got out here riding for brainiac five i think it's okay too i think it's okay too you think it's okay to i don't you i don't know i i don't i am you know how on youtube there's a thriving cottage industry of people who were like, actually, by these facial expressions, you can tell this, this, and this. I'm sitting here analyzing every Twitch, Koi, every muscle, every... Raniac 5, hey.

Starting point is 00:01:05 How many brainiacs are there in the whole continual DC cones? The new absolute Superman and Brainiac is terrifying. It's like, it's only been in two issues and he has, yeah, Candor's right in the cover. It's pretty cool. Let's go. Pretty cool. Very haunting. Candor's Lord.

Starting point is 00:01:20 All right. Great timing. Daffmer. All right. After watching this. What DC intergalactic heroes or just stories would you guys like to see put up on the big screen? Everyone usually leans towards the lanterns, but I think an Adam Strange movie would be cool or something involving War World and Mungle. I love Adam Strange, especially because it'd be a very classic sci-fi, like Superman Golden Age sci-fi stuff, John and I really dug with All-Star Superman and like what energy that felt like.

Starting point is 00:01:53 I don't know if that's going to air before or after this. We don't know the schedule. But we did watch that recently, and it was awesome. And I think Adam Strange is that aura, that energy, which I really like. I really think Mongol has the potential to be like a long-term villain, like him coming back and the chains breaking and all the things with that, like, energy. I think Mongol could be great. But I'm a big Green Lantern guy.

Starting point is 00:02:15 So I always want to see Green Lantern. But this obviously shows how much you can spread out. I really liked this because a lot of my favorite comic creators love the Legion of Superheroes. and I've never really connected to them and one of the things I like about adaptation is when I like the adaptation more than the thing that I didn't connect to and then I'm like, oh, let me retry it now.

Starting point is 00:02:33 Like, Century is not my favorite character and then what Lewis Pullman did with Century made me like him so much more than I'm like, I should reread Century. This was similar where Legion and Superheroes is not a thing high in my list. There's so many characters, there's much going on, but this was great.

Starting point is 00:02:48 So more cosmic-y stuff, but definitely Mongol and I, I agree with your two. Adam Strange is great as well. Mr. Mix's Plittalick. Yeah. Oh, dude. Fourth dimensional,

Starting point is 00:02:58 fifth dimensional, six dimensional, imps. Not in live action at the very. I know we've watched some animated fare so this doesn't fully satisfy the question as only

Starting point is 00:03:08 Koi could. But in live action, I think that would be pretty fun. You know, when they announced Alan Tudick was in it, that's who I thought he was going to end up playing. He's a robot four, but I thought it'd be a great

Starting point is 00:03:19 Mr. Mix and Plitlick. Dude, living that K-2-S-O-Life all over again. Cody Enos. Here we go. It's been a while since you've died back into the Tomorrowverse. With that time away.

Starting point is 00:03:34 Aaron Lewis is watching as well. He said you're sorry. With that time away. Have you felt differently about any of the previous entries and does this one hold up as coming back on board? Oh, so we are back in the Tomorrowverse. We have watched a couple films from the Tomorrowverse.

Starting point is 00:03:49 Let me double check that continuity. Please, because I don't know which is in which can't. and to be honest yeah this is the most recent movie we've watched 2023 just happened yeah I was gonna say

Starting point is 00:03:58 this this came out like a minute ago okay soar um what do we got Crisis on Infinite Earth is ending to think films all right

Starting point is 00:04:06 oh the flashpoint paradox still love that Justice League war son of Batman okay so this is wait a minute hold on a second

Starting point is 00:04:17 second story arc the tomorrow so I was actually quoting DC AMUs because I thought those were the Yeah. Second story arc tomorrow verse 2020 to 2020-4 as of current.

Starting point is 00:04:27 So it's Superman Man of Tomorrow. It's Justice War Justice Society World War II. Batman the Long Halloween Parts 1 and 2. Green Lanter Beware My Power. Legion of Superheroes. Okay, so I think in our previous run of these, right?

Starting point is 00:04:42 We probably did Superman Man of Tomorrow up through Green Lantern Beware My Power. Because I feel like that was, yeah, I remember we did Beware My Power. And we watch part one and two of long Halloween. Long Halloween, which part two is like up toward the top for you, right? Yeah, yeah, really high up.

Starting point is 00:04:58 I mean, I am excited to be back in this universe. And also, thank you for clarifying where in the continuum of all these things we are. Even for carrots, it's dense. Yeah, because like the DC AMU has a ton of movies that we, I think, have made our way all the way through. And then, yeah, there's the Tomorrowverse, which is the more recent iteration of these live action movies and stuff like that. It was cool. And it's cool to know that we are back in that place. with this especially having seen

Starting point is 00:05:23 like Superman Unbound which doesn't seem like it is part of this universe DC AMU I would assume or something you can you can straighten us out on that there but like yeah being back in that part of the world is cool because yeah it's been a minute since we've been there and there's a different animation style

Starting point is 00:05:38 there's a bit of a different tone there's a bit of a different attitude and let me just make sure I'm back into the yeah with the time away have you felt differently about any of the previous entries and does this one how does this one hold up is coming back on board it doesn't really recontextualize those I enjoyed those I kind of like them all for different reasons

Starting point is 00:05:56 I like how self-contained they are I like how each experience is its own thing but I clearly put a couple of these tomorrow verse ones pretty high I think this had some of the best animation of any of them sure so this is pretty high up there as far as like animation sound design some of the things we get pointing out

Starting point is 00:06:11 it's interesting to watch something that I am less connected to sure I know Braniac 5 that's about the only car I mean obviously I know Kara like Supergirl and Brainiac five of the only two characters from the future stuff that I was really like in deep awareness of. I've seen some of the other characters, but you know, I'm not deeply invested. So this was fun as like a casual. Yeah. Yeah. I was impressed. It's got me at least curious to like go back and revisit some of those movies that we've done up to this point to especially if we do wind up. I don't know exactly

Starting point is 00:06:40 what the next one we're going to shoot is going to be. And it could be one of these tomorrowverse movies. And especially if it is, I would be curious and excited to kind of go back and look at some of these movies or at least go back and revisit our reactions to see yeah to reestablish the continuity in my head because the thing about a lot of these movies is that you can plug and play to some extent uh i feel like all these that we've watched though we have done many of them in some type of order or you know often are designed to function with some degree of i don't know standaloneness hopefully unless it's like the long Halloween part one and two um but yeah i mean like this was a strong re-entry for me and i'm certainly excited to

Starting point is 00:07:18 to continue on and uh i mean i remember liking superman man of tomorrow a lot because i had like parasite and lobo and stuff like that and justice society world war two i thought was pretty fun just because i'm always a fan of a of a world war two switcheroo uh i remember the long halloween kind of bridging yeah like being a uh a pretty top tier one and kind of bridging an interesting gap between the comic book animation and the animation animation uh and i remembered liking greenlander and beware my power also yeah but smart versus strong it's been a minute enough that, yeah, I feel like to really answer your question, I would

Starting point is 00:07:52 probably need to, like, go back and comprehensively immerse myself into these so I could really yeah, speak to any recontextualization. But just knowing this, I'm excited to be back in that world and excited by proxy to go revisit. But this was strong. And is Brainiac 5 a well-established

Starting point is 00:08:08 comics character? I would say now, I mean, he's one of the few from the 31st century that kind of pops up often enough that I would clock him. I don't know a lot of the legions. members so to me he's one of the more interesting because it's it's an interesting play on like do i trust him the morality of it like the evolution of consciousness is cool and i've always had that kind of cynical if you absorb too much data turning evil as like robots do so it's cool

Starting point is 00:08:33 to see over more centuries him turn good but maybe like that's cool to me so i like the characters maybe that's why it might be that thing we're like you know you buy a car and then you see it all the time like he might be in it just as much other characters but i see him more Yeah, that's fair. Because I like him, like, oh, there's the guy I pay attention to. I like Brainiac 5, and I hope I am not mistaken in doing so. We didn't look at who, that was what I was Googling. We didn't look at who voiced him.

Starting point is 00:08:57 Yeah, I was going to say, I know that name, Shum Jr. Ephraim, Ephron Beltran. You've got a nice rhyme and name there, bud, with Marvel making big decisions and having the X-Men and Fantastic Four in the MCU and James Gunn's universe growing. which are you most excited for in terms of what the future has for us and which franchise do you think would be fans favorite when they get asked the question Marvel and DC oh boy I mean right now I am very excited for the DCU

Starting point is 00:09:30 simply for the fact that the streets what's from step up to the streets Harry Shum Jr's from step up to the streets okay he's also in everything ever all at once but I knew him from step up to the streets okay I've seen this This chap. He's in crazy rich Asians. Okay.

Starting point is 00:09:47 That's that right there is step up to the streets. Harry Schum Jr. All right. Sorry to interrupt. I was vexed. If only we could have had him bust a move in this movie. I mean, I wish I'd known. Raniac 5 can dance.

Starting point is 00:09:59 I was listening to half of that. I'm so sorry. It's all good with Marvel making big decisions and having the X-Men of Fantastic 4 in the MCU and James Guns universe growing. Which are you most excited for in terms of what the future has for us? And which franchise do you think would be fans favorite when they get asked to question Marvel or DC? I'm going to assume you mean in, light of you know when those movies come out it's very early um i would say marvel and dc i i don't

Starting point is 00:10:25 like the the choice of tribalism in comics like i think i i didn't feel comfortable talking about dc for a very long time because of the toxicity of the fandom and i think pitting people against other fans is what got it worse so i always read i go to the comic store i don't go to the marvel store I don't go to the DC store. I don't go to the image store. I go to the comic store. So I want to enjoy comics, and I don't think publishers have animosity.

Starting point is 00:10:51 I think they have healthy competition. I think the better DC does, the better Marvel has to do. The better Marvel has done, as made DC up their game. So I think DC is in an incredible position right now, and I think Superman looks amazing. I think the penguin is one of the best

Starting point is 00:11:03 comic book shows of all time. I think they're in a really, really, really good spot. I think Peacemaker is exceptional. I think Marvel had an incredible run with Thunderbolts has a very good looking fantastic four and then X-Men are beloved. So I think the best

Starting point is 00:11:17 problem is which one comes out next and how good will it be to make the other one go, oh, we got to up our game. So as someone that goes to the comic store, I like comics. Hey, I like that answer, Coitus. I am going partisan, though. No. Yeah, I mean,

Starting point is 00:11:33 the DCU certainly has my attention more in the sense that I have worry for both. I I am a little more, I can feel, I am a bit more in tune with the excitement of that prospect when it comes to D.C. Whereas Marvel, I am a bit more in tune with the anxiety of the prospect because, you know, Marvel is in the midst of a run and needs to reestablish a consistency. And so there is a difference in, it's just interesting to watch them wriggle because they're working with a

Starting point is 00:12:11 lot of the same parts and pieces and people whereas dc is a largely new apparatus um yeah i mean when it comes to like who's going to choose which one is their favorite i feel like there probably are more numerable marvel movies than dc movies by now but like i don't know like it's it's hard to say because i feel like yeah it partly depends on your taste in the flavor of each universe and then it also depends on just yeah which characters you like the best and how movies that how well or not their movies have achieved what they were trying to achieve so like yeah i couldn't really speak i don't want to be like a disappointing answer but like i don't know really which one you would come out with just based on the movies like if you're talking animated movies from what

Starting point is 00:12:54 i gather people strongly prefer the dc's we've clearly watched way more of those here i barely touched on marvel animated yeah um i didn't really love what if so i i would i would lean dc but only because i haven't been exposed to as much marvel yeah and i'm curious to see the marvel animated that fit into this lane but yeah when it comes to big screen I feel like that's it's really hard to look at either franchise from the outside and go I think people are going to

Starting point is 00:13:21 side with one or the other because it's like you got to filter it through who likes what characters who likes what tone yeah which of the movies appeal to who I also would have said before Thunderbolts like DC because of the bold swings they're making with directors and and they are like Greg Gillespie and what they've got

Starting point is 00:13:37 with James Mangold and like all those things but then Thunderbolts was such director's movie that I was like oh they trust a director to make his vision so now I'm like maybe both will so I go back to like I'm excited for both to do well yeah same like like I'm excited for the prospect of what DC has going right now because of the whole like we're not shooting for release dates we want to make sure the scripts are good and we are clearly I think more we'll see how it goes in practice I get more of a vibe coming down from DC that they want to make more a wider variety of movies

Starting point is 00:14:09 on a wider variety of budgets so that they don't all have to be $250 million. Whereas I feel like Marvel kind of operates solely in that one massive caliber lane and I feel like I would be more excited for Marvel

Starting point is 00:14:23 if they would diversify that and have some lower budget fare some stuff that's a little different and sensibility and that makes it way less of a crazy gamble to give a movie over to a filmmaker. So I guess for that spirit of like,

Starting point is 00:14:39 so the problem with DC is we've been proven over time that like, that can go wrong. Yeah. The trouble with all this is like creative driven stuff, giving it over to the authors is great. But if it goes wrong, it really affects everything. Then it affects everything.

Starting point is 00:14:53 And then going over to committee, you're like, well, this isn't ideal, but there are ways in which you can wind up with a bit more consistency that way. Ultimately, yeah, I'm excited for both to do well,

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Starting point is 00:17:11 but helping us actually grow our now business. Thank you. Legion of superheroes. Legion of superheroes. This was fun, and this felt like a different... I know we've seen some stuff that's taken place in the future, and partly because we've had such a gap in our DC animated viewing, this feels kind of like, okay, we're back here fresh,

Starting point is 00:17:31 and you know we've all i have only seen all the movies we watched one time so yeah so there's a certain amount of like revisitation to be done and i'm sure maybe we've seen something that's kind of similar to this but this was cool on the heels of what we've been doing in these past three or four because yeah to hop from the familiar territory of we're in metropolis well we're going from the destruction of krypton to metropolis we're seeing this from uh you know supergirl's perspective um i didn't really know what to expect about where this would go or how or why. And so having a brief moment of like Superman is intervening on this situation that Kara's kind of let get out of hand. And then Batman's showing up and you get a

Starting point is 00:18:12 little bit of that shared Justice League kind of world. But then we hop pretty quick into the future. And, you know, we are launched into a world where, yeah, the sci-fi, timey-wimey stuff is forefront. And we're on this, you know, sort of utopian, but secretly dystopian, you know, school, planet. And just, yeah, I liked, as much as you don't spend a great deal of time ensembleing with the ensemble, I did like the sort of, you know, teen college movie flavor that this is allowed to have along with, again, we got to stop this nefarious plot and somebody on hand can't be trusted and yada yada. But I think the main thing is just this, because I just had a very strong introduction to Brainiac in the Superman Unbound movie. this is like perfect timing because then I can watch this and the whole time be sitting here

Starting point is 00:19:05 screaming at coy being like I don't know what to make this it's been really fun between Unbound and All Star if that aired first or after we did watch that

Starting point is 00:19:11 and then Unbound in this seeing you basically seeing bits of comic stuff that comic fans would have the experience of watching this but because you've seen

Starting point is 00:19:20 that so recently it being that visceral and this was fun for me because of my lack of connection to a lot of these characters I got to watch this more casually

Starting point is 00:19:27 and I like that sometimes to be honest I talked about it and we'll talk about it And we'll talk about it, depending on time. With Allstar, I didn't reread All-Star because I wanted to watch James Gunn's Superman's tone and not be thinking about All-Stars tone in the comic book. But now I'm excited to read All-Star after the live-action Superman.

Starting point is 00:19:43 This similarly, I really enjoyed getting to be like, what is going to happen? And I've no, I knew pieces of this storyline because it's reflected in other stuff of Legion I have read. You knew my boy wasn't going to let us down. And that was fun because I got to be like, he-h-h-h-tipped-on-five. I mean, I'm not Brainiac five. but i also really got to enjoy like monel mirrors um there's a current like right now run of superman that monel's in and he is trapped in the phantom zone and he comes back and has to help superman

Starting point is 00:20:11 so he's a good guy again but he was in the phantom zone for so long there's a distrust so it's really fun to watch a character that i read like literally last year in a hero position but because of punishment and here to see him go to turn so i've not read the story of monel betrayings i've read the ramification. So it was really fun as someone that reads so many comics to get to know some of the pieces falling later and know some of the pieces setting this up, but getting to have

Starting point is 00:20:37 the adventure. So I really liked this. I thought the animation was gorgeous. I thought it felt expensive and I know that's a dumb thing to say as far as enjoyment, but there are sometimes that it's like in a comic when you are reading the comic and the writing's great but the art is bad you're like, yeah, okay, good and like it is easier

Starting point is 00:20:53 to forgive um mediocre writing and mediocre art to enjoy a book than it is to forgive awful art with great writing when you're like i think this is great but i just can't tell what's happening and so sometimes animation is fine and i can't even imagine anime and how much work goes into it but if the story is good and the animation's like not great i struggle a little bit more when the animation's great it elevates everything so i'm like beautiful so this was one of those and then the sound design being great and then all the energy from that all the music cues like this felt like like performance. Yeah, yeah. And then voice

Starting point is 00:21:25 on top of that. Like this felt like cinema. So I really got a lot out of this one. Yeah, I did too. And I think to your point, like I see, this was, yeah, a couple of years ago and not thinking about it and not real. I assumed this was a bit longer ago than that. And I think that this was actually, I'm appreciating the animation more in hindsight now because while this

Starting point is 00:21:48 is certainly like akin to this feels like it, I think there is a Legion of Superheroes. like TV series animated that's not that old and like this kind of felt like it could be and I don't mean this as a slight like it felt like it could be a cartoon on TV

Starting point is 00:22:03 in a way where like when it comes to modern animation especially in modern animation that's made to look hand drawn a lot of times at least for me as a viewer I can kind of tell like I liked a friendly neighbor with Spider-Man a lot I can tell that that's a computer trying to emulate

Starting point is 00:22:19 hand-drawn I don't know what they did here and I like that felt hand-drawn because it yeah and it had real clean thick line work and stuff like that you could do all this in a computer certainly and i'm sure certain it flourishes throughout this were cg whatever you call that in a you know two-d animated context but yeah for a twenty twenty three animated movie this looked better and pulled me in and felt more unified in terms of just the form of its animation than i would have expected because again as an anime as a lover of drawn animation I'm just always I am often aware of the uncanny valley when stuff isn't drawn and wants to look like it yeah and this I didn't have that problem with

Starting point is 00:23:02 it's gonna be fun to I mean we're gonna rank these at some point it's gonna be fun to rank this one in there this is a three and a half to four star for me wouldn't really change anything I had a lot of fun connecting to discovering new characters I love Kara so it's really cool to see that character get some time in the sun so that's where she gets her powers

Starting point is 00:23:18 but yeah Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and love and love and love that they're real cute real cute know who you're reminded of uh shoot danny pooty okay like get a little dany pooty yeah a little obbed in the morning braniac five and to the point where i knew it wasn't the voice of him but i kept seeing him yeah like that's a dany pooty right there hey cast him in a dc get brainiac call james gun get brany f five put him in put him in put him in put him in put him in All right, well, that is going to do with your lovelies. Thank you very much, Regnation, for joining us.

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Starting point is 00:24:33 and I forgot to mention I got a shout out my boy Grundy. You start out the movie. There's a Grundy set piece and even though we didn't start on the city streets with driving. We did destroy the city streets

Starting point is 00:24:44 with Grundy. Post credit scene John Hype Grundy. Yeah. So like this movie, He had a post-credit scene as a post-credit sentiment. We should have started the review off with this, but we're ending it with this. Born on a Monday. Born on a Monday.

Starting point is 00:24:55 It kind of rhymes. It doesn't quite rhyme. I don't care, though. He was here, and I'm here for it. If Eminem can rhyme orange and door hinge. You know, it's not a bad rhyme, honestly. I'll take it. All right.

Starting point is 00:25:06 Now you guys are free. We'll see you next. Grundy out. Brian Perry. We need someone to be able to line up the Legion of Superheroes. There's not enough superheroes in this lineup. So we're going to include Brian Perry there. Bryniak.

Starting point is 00:25:23 His power's super, super racist. Yes. You need someone racist. That way you balance it out when you are going into all kinds of cultures and climates. Yeah. It's good. No matter how obscure, he knows what the slurs are and what the stereotypes are. No matter how you've never heard of this culture, Brian knows how.

Starting point is 00:25:47 to be prejudiced against them. A good political team knows how to work with people with differing opinions. So it's good to have a hardcore racist like Brian Perry. That's representation. It's proper representation. You need racist representation. So like when Brian is going to see like green aliens and then he likens it to the immigrant situation out here. That's right.

Starting point is 00:26:10 U.S. I think that ability to derail progress for the superheroes as they're trying to say the aliens while he shouts like unnecessary political beliefs at Superman. Spiracy theories and stuff like that. I think is... Krypton was an inside job. We need constant content.

Starting point is 00:26:25 Krypton inside job. Perfect. Exactly. You get it. You get where I'm going. Yeah, yeah. So, Brian, thank you so much for expressing your point of views.

Starting point is 00:26:33 Freedom of Speech. America, baby. X is where it's back. Hey, Brian. Thank you, Brian for helping us move forward in life in a way that is truly representative of this great country, of ours. And we need something like that on our team of superheroes.

Starting point is 00:26:48 Keeping us open-minded to your closed-mindedness. Thank you. Thank you.

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